Returning the Triumph Speed 400 - Final thoughts and highway overtaking
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- The new Triumph 400 Speed. Time to return the baby Triumph Speed. My final thoughts on this little bike that offers so much for so little.
Triumph Speed 400 Spec
Type Liquid-cooled, 4 valve, DOHC, single-cylinder
Capacity 398.15 cc
Max Power EC 40 PS / 39.5 bhp (29.4 kW) @ 8,000 rpm
Max Torque EC 37.5 Nm @ 6,500
Exhaust Stainless twin-skin header system with stainless steel silencer
Clutch Wet, multi-plate, slip
Gearbox 6 speed
Front Wheel Cast aluminium alloy 10 spoke, 17 x 3 in
Rear Wheel Cast aluminium alloy 10 spoke, 17 x 4 in
Front Tyre 110/70 R17
Rear Tyre 150/60 R17
Front Suspension 43mm upside down Big Piston forks. 150mm wheel travel
Rear Suspension Gas monoshock RSU with external reservoir and pre-load adjustment. 150mm wheel travel
Front Brakes 320mm fixed disc, four-piston radial caliper, ABS
Rear Brakes 230mm fixed disc, ByBreTM single piston floating caliper, ABS
Instrument Display and Functions Analogue speedometer with integrated
Width Handlebars 814 mm
Height Without Mirror 1084 mm
Seat Height 790 mm
Wheelbase 1377 mm
Rake 24.6 º
Trail 102 mm
Tank Capacity 13 L
Wet Weight 170 kg
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When the Speed 1200 gets too big for my aging body to manage the Speed 400 will be at the top of my shortlist. Thanks for a comprehensive review Mr TAYM.
me as well lol.
Thanks Bruce 😁
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Yeah, this new 400 series was well conceived and executed. Triumph deserves some kudos for sure!!
Thanks TBG 😁
So as you know...I love all bikes. They are all superb...even the quirky ones! The 400 does exactly what it is supposed to do...and it does it well! There is a wonderful addition to the motorbiking landscape! And it is simply beautiful!
Absolutely 😁 thanks Mark 😁
You’ve certainly shown what a capable bike the 400’s are Mr TAYM.
Job well done!
Thanks PW 😁
I do like that motorcycle Mr Taym, love the look of the tank too. 👍😁
Thanks ABD 😁
Saw one at the petrol station in Fridaythorpe, this afternoon. Looks really good in the flesh. I complimented the owner on his good looking machine. Stated he was impressed with everything but the mudguards, because they didn’t guard any mud or crap from bike or rider! 😱lol
Thanks Martin 😁 yes, definitely but then there aren’t many bikes these days that don’t need an extender 😁
That’s true, but he said his back was covered in crap, from helmet down! 😱
@@martinowl so needs a back one as well 🤔 like so many these days 😕
What a fabulous
little bike it is , ideal if you only have a few motorway miles to do but predominantly ride the lanes etc
Absolutely 😁 thanks GCK 😁
I just took one out today , I absolutely loved it 😎
Excellent 😁 they really do just remind me of the 250 and 400s of my youth 😁 exciting 😁
Excellent long term review .. Confirms my short ride on the Speed . Hopeful its my next Triumph
Thanks Neil 😁
Morning TAYM great stuff , I'm off over to Sheffield to try the Shotgun out , and it's actually not raining! 😊
Cheers Mel 🍻
Miracles do happen 😂😂 thanks Mel 😁
I'm 87 years old, and 3 years ago I dropped to a smaller capacity bike, purely due to the weight of a big bike being a bit much, pushing it into the garage etc. I opted for the Yamaha MT-03 thinking that I wouldn't be needing another bike at my age. But having seen, and watched reviews on the Triumph Speed 400, it looks like I might just have been wrong
Certainly if you want the retro styling 😁 the MT is an excellent bike though 😁 thanks Barrie 😁
Good review as usual . These 400s are going to be real winners for Triumph . I am very glad that you showed it's performance on the highway, which highlighted that you do have a bit of speed in reserve at 70mph .
Very important when someone suddenly changes lanes and you have to jump into a gap slightly ahead because braking hard will have a tailgater slamming into the back of you .
It always feels safer having power in reserve . IMHO.
Anyways , you showed the Daytona sticking it's nose out at Lings . So it's the Daytona next is it ? 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 already ridden it 😁 twice 😁 once all day 😁 thanks DS 😁👹
Thanks for the great reviews on this bike. I'm glad I didn't rush and got the Hunter.
Thanks NFZ 😁 have you ordered one? 😁
A stunning looking wee bike that's not so wee maybe
Thanks Ian 😁
l think Triumph have had a stroke of genius with these two bikes 👍
Definitely 😁 thanks MP 😁
4 stroke...sry i'll show myself out !
I can tell that there is a soft spot for that little 400 in the heart of TAYM I reckon you're gonna have to get one 🤣
Thanks Grumpy 😁 I do like them 😁
@@TAYM Oh and just incase you hadn't worked it out this is Mike_T120 I've changed my channel name.
@@Grumpy-Goblin 😂😂👍
Not seen any about yet TAYM but I reckon that's gonna change I think they will be everywhere this summer I don't think Triumph is gonna be able to cope with the demand to be honest . and I am sure that Royal Enfield has a real competitor here although this pare aren't exactly classics but they kick out that bit more umff I could be wrong of course cheers 👌👍
You are not wrong !. My Royal Enfield Meteor is a handy bike but its 350cc engine has been stifled and regulated not to allow more than a shade over 70mph. And it hates long uphill stretches. Not good enough, whereas the Triumph has the top end get up and go.
Thanks Crumb 😁 I’ve seen a few but not many 😁
Thanks 2nd 😁
Morning TAYM it’s sounds to me like you should of bought the speed 400 instead of the SV650 🤔 or for more comfort and character Moto Guzzi V7 850 😜 carry on that man Caio for now tat ta 👍🏻
Thanks HN 😁 definitely the v7😁
Was thinking of getting the 400 speed but getting a new SV650 instead for a few hundred pounds more ✅👍
Excellent choice 😁 absolutely love the SV 😁 thanks R 😁
Just hit 600 miles on mine. The bike is much better than it had any right to be for the price. I will disagree with you on the seat, though - but as I bought it for short (under 200 miles) rides, it's tolerable. And I REALLY want a center stand. One thing I would change would be the instruments - I'd rather have an analog tach and a digital speed readout.
Yes, the centre stand 🤔 why can’t they put one on😡 bloody annoying 😂😂 thanks MJ 😁
Test riding one on Sunday 🎉
Excellent 😁 hope you enjoy it 😁 thanks Steven 😁
Mine would not start the first day that i got it. Got it to the shop and they i guess fixed it and now it is doing it all over again and it is back in the shop again. I made a video of what it is doing on my channel. I would turn the key to start and and got nothing, i would then turn it off and turn it back on and it would fire right up. It does this ALL THE TIME!!
How frustrating 🤔 take it back , I am sure there is an update for it now. 😁 thanks T 😁
I was comparing the power rating of this with my RD400 in1976, which had according to the figures, 44 bhp, so we haven't advanced much. And i agree about the centre stand.
Thanks DB 😁 in many ways we have gone backwards 😁
It's pretty obvious you are struck with the bike, I have one on order hopefully delivery this month, any advice on any of the desirability of the available accessories? As an occasional commuter on it will it deliver 80 plus mpg you didn't mention what the trip computer has indicated on the fuel consumption?
Thanks AB 😁 I haven’t looked at accessories yet 🤔 I hope they don’t price them the same as they do for the bigger bikes otherwise the cost will double the price of the bike 😂😂😂 I am not sure how reliable the trip computer is 🤔 but I reckon I was getting between 70 and 80 on mixed riding but maybe less on the faster longer runs😁
I would need a centre stand - anyone know if this can be fitted later and possible cost ? Thanks
I shall try to find out 😁 thanks Colin 😁
The question has to be - Scrambler, or the Roadster? 😊
That is the question 🤔 for me the scrambler purely for the height 😁 the speed definitely handles better 🤔 thanks Wozza😁
Great video would these bikes sustane 70 mph with tent on back or is there to much vibration
Absolutely 😁 no problem from what I’ve found. 😁 thanks Robert 😁
They vibrate a lot
They do but everything is relevant 😁 my other bike is a classic 500 😁 thanks Richard 😁
You like it !
I can't believe two up on a 400 with single disc made no difference, yeah. I notice the difference on my sv650 when two up. Only the vfr can carry pillions two up with no difference. Yeah.
Interesting 🤔 guess it must be down to how one rides and or the total mass 🤔 thanks P 😁
@@TAYM yes probably down to the size of the pillion passenger I reckon.
I got rid of my cbf500 as I didn't like its two up capability, much more sluggish on acceleration and harder to stop with the single disc and it had 56hp.
@@paolodechipiece1027 yes, I think having baby TAYM on the back is more akin to having a backpack on 😂😂 and Mrs TAYM isn’t much more 😂😂
This bike made India ?? Please confirm
Yes it is 😁 thanks Aryaach😁
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Thanks Paul 😁
I was trying to think of other 40bhp 400cc bikes and came up with the Yamaha RD 400 which had reputation as a bit of a naughty boy bike… 40 bhp, 41.1 Nm and a wet weight 171kg. Compare it to the Triumph Speed 400… 39.5 bhp, 37.5 Nm and a wet weight of 170 kg. Not much in it. Just saying.
Thanks Bill 😁 that’s really interesting and fits perfectly with how this bike feels. 😁
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Shanks my turn to cook,I know I know.
Gana have to start taking phone 📱 with me into kitchen.
...and drop the phone in the baking dish full of hot fat haha😊😊
@@daintree2455 Nah I'll put phone 📱 on side table & check it occasionally.Atleast tonight it was that lovely Kiwi Lamb 🐑 Shanks & none of that yellow grass fed Ausie Lamb & beef that's 35% cheaper for good reason.
@@ruahinesrider haha good thing I'm a vegan ...vegans are the ones that eat lots of meat,dairy products, pies and proper food aren't they...I could have that wrong.
@@daintree2455 😂🤣
Thank you for the review, Taym. Inevitably, given that I'm now 78, the Guzzi 750 is going to end up being a bit too heavy for me. At that point, I'll be seriously looking at one of these Speed 400's.
Thanks CW 😁
Marvellous ! Thank you for the review. I pick up a new Scrambler 400x next week 👍
Excellent 😁 very jealous 😁 the waiting list just seems to keep getting longer 😁 thanks A😁
Selling like hot cakes ... the dealer I visited had none left. Another Triumph triumph !
Thanks DJ 😁 yes, same over here too 😁
@@timmer9991 interesting 🤔 which dealer is that? Thanks Tim 😁
Those 400’s are cracking little bikes, well priced, good looking and they perform - what more could you ask for in a small capacity bike?
Absolutely 😁 thanks TP 😁
You should have just dropped it at baby TAYM 's house! 😂 I will just keep stating it!
😂😂😂😂😂 thanks for that LoY 😁
And the front brake fluid reservoir is the correct shape! 😂😂👍👍.
Agreed! Doesn't look at all like the sample you left at the urologist 😷
Exactly 😂😂😂😂 thanks GBD 😁
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Good morning taym if I had to come down to a small bike I think this would be the first I’d look at seems a decent all round bike 👍🏍️
Thanks Derek 😁
just as long as people know == this quality indian motorbike just like the royal enfield and others are NOT british built which is a good thing for everyday price , just remember other people are working for less so that we can have more ,;;;;
That is also true 😁 Thanks SG 😁
Though they're also spending a lot less to live so it's all relative.
@@AuxesisHyperbole666 good on them ,, the products seem to be well made ,,,
Though corrosion seems to be an issue, with Enfields at least, that being a materials rather than worker's issue. Bound to happen building to a budget. Same goes for cycleparts. Time will tell.@simongilbert2704
What did you think of the headlight performance in the dark? I don’t have a great deal of faith in LED headlights yet.
I thought it seemed to have blind spot 🤔 if you know what I mean🤔 like a strip across where there was less light 😁 thanks K 😁
Pity to hand them back, the keepers that is, need a big shed, friendly bank manager and understanding wife tho. Thanks TAYM 😊
We all need a bigger shed & more bikes.
Love how your local bank manager seems to have some level of autonomy. In the USA, they're increasingly being displaced by ATM's!
Absolutely 😁 thanks DT 😁
😂😂😂😂 too right 😁
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Certainly food for thought
Thanks BOM😁
I love this bike so much and it looks like a fun daily commuter.. gotta find a local dealer with one to try out..
Thanks TR 😁 it will be interesting to see how they sell in the USA, with you vast distances to cover🤔
What do you think of this compared with the Ninja 400 - pros/cons
The 400 ninja is now replaced with the 500. I did ride the 400 a little while ago and thought it was a well sorted bike. Quicker and smoother and perhaps better equipped. It is also more money than the triumph but guess a better all round bike. 😁 the problem is one of styling I think. If you don’t want a sports bike you wouldn’t go for the ninja 😁 there is also the cbr500 to consider🤔 but like the ninja, once you get to those prices there are a lot of others to consider 🤔 A very good question 😁 thanks S 😁
Hi nice to see you had the 400 for a nice long time I went to triumph Monday lovely day for a ride and booked my rocket in for 1st service I’m in the market to buy another speedmaster and saw there red one in there have you tried the speedmaster out they are lovely bike I think as well what are you going to try next anyway ride safe take care
Thanks Nick 😁 I wouldn’t mind trying the speedmaster 😁 as soon as they get one in 😁
@@TAYM they’ve got a demo in now
@@nicholasjarrold8649 at Suffolk? 😁 marvellous 😁
@@TAYM yes Suffolk that’s where I always go and see Jake
@@nicholasjarrold8649 excellent 😁
10000km(6000miles) service intervals it's the only Triumph that's not 10000miles.
It's 10,000 mile service intervals not km (owners manual).
It is 10000 miles (16000km) thanks RR 😁
Oh 😲 must of misread article I read I thought it said 10000km or it was misprint but makes sense it's 16000km like the other Triumphs.
Sorry to be a downer but it's also an annual oil change OR 10,000 miles - whichever comes first. I don't get the fixation with mileage - for most riders, you're looking at an annual service.
When they say 16000km service intervals they mean valve adjustment oil changes are
done every 5000km or yearly.You wouldn't want to wait till 16k do to oil change😂🤣 & manual say valve adjustment service 16k & oil annually or 5000km.On my Trident 🔱 Dealership put Valve adjustment service in the dash & counts down from 16k & you'll get a reminder about 50-100km before 5000km for oil change & check over & a picture of a crescent 🔧on dash.
I love powerful Japanese bikes but l welcome competition from China and India.
A Royal Enfield 750cc classic with 75 bhp might light my fire 🔥 A real Shotgun 😊
Thanks Mike 😁
Nice job TAYM. Excellent demonstration of it's overtaking ability. Riding it through it's break-in period and getting the 1st service done was definitely taking one for the team there. The 72mph restriction on the Classic 350 is a bit of a shame as there's quite a bit more to go. Though I rarely use Ernie on the faster roads, it would be nice to be able to occasionally squirt past a line of 60mph lorries without an Audi coming up fast and furious behind.
Yes, totally agree 😁 and with the Triumph, it’s from 75 it gets lively 😁 a real good fun bike but perhaps lacks the relaxation of the enfields 😁 can’t have everything I guess 😁 thanks PGB 😁
@@TAYM Just come back from my 3 mile commute on Ernie. Not far, but goodness it doesn't half start and finish the day right ☺️
@@PhilipBallGarry absolutely 😁