Hi Brad. Thanks for all your good videos. I have a question for you: I have a Wacom Intuos Pro M. Unfortunately one of my cats jumped up one day I was drawing and made an annoying scratch. Not terrible deep or big. But deep enough that I can feel a slight click and wave on the line when I draw. Is it possible to eliminate those scratches some how. Like with a bit of filler and some sanding with grain 1000 or so?
@@Choedron As it's not a display you COULD, but no matter what it's going to change the feel in that area. So you can just deal with a small scratch or sand it down and have a larger area that just feels different. I guess you could also try to fill the scratch somehow. You could even try finding a screen protector of the same size and placing it on the tablet. It will again change the feel, but at least it would be constant across the full tablet. In my experience consistency is the most important thing if you want smooth lines.
I can only tell from my experience that the pressure curve is much better for Wacom. Especially the lift of cursor is what I miss on Apples pencil and it takes alot more pressure to get an initial stroke. With Wacom I can draw very thin and light lines much easier
In Procreate you can adjust the pressure curve for the Apple Pencil and you can make it however you want to press. For me, I miss the buttons on the apple pencil. (I do use the double tap which at first was weird, but I got used to it)
@@aoterouthat is ridiculous claiming that apple pencil is some how natural feeling is beyond crazy. Samsun pen is way better feeling then apple pencil. Also the apple pencil has some very very light wave the line quality in wacom is simply better. The only pro to apple pencil is procreate besides that hardware wise pro pen 2 is simply better and pro pen 3 i imagine is amazing too. I use apple pencil with i pad for convenience sake and the optimized app is insane especially with procreate
@@aoterou this is some ridiculous claims for a pen with less sensitivity and features. (also a sensitive pen can be customized to feel like an apple pencil. apple pencil cant be tweaked to feel like a wacom pen)
Note that Wacom has like 10 different stylus protocols. EMR Digital, EMR Non-digital, AES 1.0, AES 2.0, AES 1.5, etc etc. The one being compared in the video is EMR Non-digital.
I would love to learn more about this. Do you have a source for which stylus uses which protocol. Or any other links to how those protocols work? I have especially always wondered about the difference between EMR and AES.
@@thesevenpens Sorry, no. Wacom and manufacturers that use wacom pens are intentionally vague as possible on this subject. AES isn't suitable for artwork, it's a very cheap tech designed for note-taking.
@@thesevenpens Well, most tablets/2-in-1 that used Wacom, is using AES. The EMR is generally only used by Samsung and a few specific model from other brand (I think the latest Acer ConceptD line used EMR). The AES is basically Wacom answer to Microsoft Pen Protocol/Ntrig, both are active capacitive pens, which I believe is cheaper and easier to implement. The Apple Pencil also works similarly.
5:00 Slight correction, you can actually double tap just about anywhere on the apple pencil as long as its towards the tip end. Found this out by accident and was super confused
@@tams805 yeah I get that, I don’t do much art with my 2020 iPad Pro but just a bunch of note taking and I guess you do hold the pencil differently depending on what you’re doing. I do actually sometimes go to the eraser in the middle of making notes. It’s annoying but it’s more annoying to me not having quick access to an eraser. To each their own of course; that’s why there’s an option
As someone using them both on an almost daily basis, main takeaway is: Both they will get you where you want to go. The feel of each is different though. For those used to standard pencils, Apple's version comes out more naturally (and the drawing experience feels more natural too). Pressure sensitivity might be a tad more refined on Apple's Pencil too. But these days I've been working more on my 24" workhorse tablet and in the end what counts is getting the job done and both tools are capable of it.
Do you find the smaller point on the wacom (compared to the thicker, almost crayon-like size of the apple pencil) gives you more precision as you draw? As in, can you see exactly where the tip is on the screen, as it's not blocked by the thicker nib? Thanks
The MAIN reason I really can’t bring myself to use apple pencils/iPad pros is the visibility of the cursor Pulling your eyes off your drawing to adjust brush size is a total flow killer
Im with you, Adam. also for brushes with tilt rotation, I need to see the shape and angle of the brush before doing a stroke. the cursor makes everything so much more precise. That and the weight of the pen, which would be solved too if apple uses an EMR technology in the future. That's why I only use my ipad for doodling at best.
Omg you are sooooo full of surprises! That was such cool animation, Brad! I can't believe you made the time and all the hardwork to create this video along with all the other videos you create. You are my hero!
3:00 - 3:23 This piece of information explained to me why the pencil on Procreate always seemed to be wavier than just using paper and pencil. If only Wacom had a version of the Mobile Studio Pro that was as portable as the iPad without all the bulkiness.
With the Apple Pencil, palm rejection is fantastic-but that’s kinda a recent thing. When I first got my iPad Pro (2020) I had to get a glove or turn off touch input altogether in Procreate. Notes/Markup still does it every now and then, though not nearly as much
I actually use huion and the pen is similarly shaped to Wacom pens. Very nice feel. I use the huion kamvas 22 pro which is pretty good for the price! Definitely more affordable than Wacom for a product that works really well!
@@thebradcolbow I love the fact that video style is pretty much the same. But, the little animations are so fun. You should definitely make them from now on. If that is reasonable, that is. Don't stress yourself out too much by pushing so much on quality. We will still love your vids nonetheless.
The most important question for anyone who is focused on drawing and doesn't make a living from digital art should not be what is the better pen, but the better overall concept. I'm 100% with Wacom when it comes to pen quality, drawing feel, flexibility and features as well as supported applications. And yet I draw significantly more on the iPad. It's smaller, lighter, mobile,, has great battery life and a great display, and the Apple Pencil is just fantastically integrated into the system. I don't know the latest Samsung devices yet, but so far nothing on the tablet market could hold a candle to the Apple Pencil.
@@MakiNoAtorie Just becouse wacom licenses out the emr tech to Samsung, doesn't mean that "wacom pro pen 2" and the "S-pen Pro" have the same qualities. The sppen doesnt work on wacom products, and only the Wacom pen that works on Samsung products (don't know about the tab s8 series) is the pen that comes with wacom one 13. Wacom pro pen 2 it's on another level then both the Sppen pro and the apple pencil 2gen. I think that the last would have been a better comparison. PS. Spen pro is a separate purchase, it doesn't come with any tablets or phone, that's the regular spen
5:06 IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING!? You have no idea how much time I've spent googling why I keep randomly switching to eraser in the middle of drawing in procreate! So much time changing settings, trying to figure out what gesture I'm accidentally triggering... It's been so frustrating, but something I've just gotten used to after dealing with it for 3 years. I just checked, and that's exactly what it is. All this time. All those hours searching for an answer. And I was just holding my pencil too close to the tip. Good lord.
Great video, and love my Galaxy laptop you recommended. It’s been great to go from writing to drawing with ease. If I were to buy one of these it might be the Apple Pencil, but it’s only because it’s with the tablet. If I pick any it would be the galaxy tab s8.
I think it's worth pointing out that the Wacom pen described here is the one which comes with their pro-level products. The pen which comes with their cheaper Wacom One pen display is different. Not that it's a bad pen by any means, but compared to the Pro Pen 2 it has half the number of pressure levels, and no eraser.
@@whenhen Pressure level, not really. I think what you gain with the pro is a more solid experience, the pen feels better and have more buttons with eraser back. The display looks better and more accurate, the Cintiq Pro even have laminated screen and textured glass, which improves drawing experience. As far as line quality goes, using S-pen (the same tech as Wacom One) is already as good and I don't think most will see the difference. The pro is just providing you a better experience.
It's exactly the same technology though, just artificially segregated. The Wacom Feel/Spen has fewer levels of pressure sensitivity (but still a lot), and two-button pens are very rare for current generation of pens (there are quite a few first generation ones, and they do work, but the offset is terrible). There are also a few pens with erasers out there for it, and you can make your own Frankenpen if you want. On the current generation pens, one button and an eraser should always work. Most drivers, especially Samsung ones, don't support a second button though.
@@whenhen Higher pressure value of the pen give you more line variety/opacity maybe, I used both wacom one (2048 PS) and Huin Kamvas 13 (around 8000 PS)
Another GREAT example of why I tune in on every one of your videos! Great work, as always Brad! Informative, creative … and funny. How can you beat that?
I am a hobby artist in my 40's and I started digital art 2018 when I got the 6th gen. iPad with first generation Apple Pencil. I have also used the Apple Pencil gen. 2. I appreciate Apple Pencil gen. 2 magnetic wireless charging way better than the Apple Pencil gen. one needing to be plugged in to the iPad. I have never used a Wacom or Samsung stylus. But maybe some day will use a Wacom or Samsung stylus. I am just into the Apple ecosystem so I like iPad and Apple Pencil.
I want to ask I am a beginner to digital art and want to invest in graphic tablet should I go for a smaller 7 inch entry level or a 10inch drawing surface
medium or 10 inch, pick large if you are using bigger monitor at size somewhere around 27-32 inches. medium (10 inch) will go well for most screen size.
it's important to note that the Wacom pens have different tips available. one has a spring in it that makes it really nice to draw with. Also the wacom art pen supports rotation.
I wonder why Wacom and other tablet manufacturers don't make the shapes of the stylus more pencil like, specially the tip. That is one big plus of the Apple pencil.
There are some third parties who make Wacom-compatible pencils. The Staedtler Noris Digital is quite nice, and there's also the Mitsubishi Hi-Uni Digital. Though the difference is mainly in how they feel in the hand: the tips still aren't really pencil-like.
I really do not understand what people seem to love about the Apple pencil tip. I use the Apple Pencil on my iPad Air - and I also used Wacom Pencils - but I just don't get it.
I guess that's because the tip is designed to be used with textured screen of these tablets, as they will wear out fairly quickly, it has to be small and easy to replace. The small tip means they are cheaper to make and can be stored easily so you always have a spare. That said, I'm not sure how the Apple Pencil tip wore out if you use something like Paperlike, but it seems to be more expensive to replace and storing the bigger tip need more space. I knew my Surface Slim Pen wear out quite fast after I added a matte screen protector, so perhaps it's similar. They were designed to use with smooth glass.
I’ve heard this question/complaint before . And my answer would be that not all artists use a pencil . I’ve never understood why an artist would want everything to be like a pencil. As a pro I use many different tools and pencils are only a beginning tool.
0:52 Wait, did you say "ElectroMagnetic Resonance" and then say "E-R-M?" How did that happen? (sorry for the nitpick, but as someone who used to obsess over this stuff, I had to say something) I love how you keep them friendly competitive, rather than trying to outmuscle each other. Great writing! Also, props on mentioning the cheaper alternatives as well; people always forget that. Great vid, Brad, and keep up the awesome!
Wacoms Sensor calibration is way superior to the apple pencil, the pressure Curve has a natural feeling, which is responding to your individual habits of holding the pen. There is no unsteady or poorly calibrated area in the whole tilt and pressure range. Apple on the other hand has only very few tilt levels and done some software magic to "guess" how you are holding the pen. This is not sensorfusion but a program that will switch into "different modi of tilts. When you tilt the apple pencil or hold it further up as it is common for traditional drawing, you will be very well made aware of its flaws. The tilt is unsteady towards the angles of 60° or more. The longer I use the Ipad and Cintiq, I am tilting towards wacom. It is the superior product when it comes to drawing. Apple however can outmanoveur this technical advantage with usability, which is initially giviing you more comfort space.
This was an informative video, thank you. I still have a question. I use the iPad with a pencil and it works great. But one downside is the glass screen feels slippery, and my handwriting isn't as neat as it would be for real paper. I understand this is likely do as much to the iPad as to the pencil itself. I do wonder if the Wacom is better in this regard, or if some other handwriting device setup might be?
Most newer models of screened drawing tablets come with some sort of textured cover or protector pre-installed. Wacom goes farther and actually has etched glass on their newer models, the glass itself is textured so you don't get that slippery feel and dont need a cover. Although, I don't think it's worth spending wacom money to get a slightly better handwriting experience, they are freaking expensive.
Wacom pens pros is you can use on many desktop applications. Can also be used for sculpting in Zbrush Or Blender if you are into that as well. Apple Pencil got Procreate which I find the best app when it comes to drawing. Sure photoshop got lot of features but i feel less intimidated with Procreate than in Photoshop. Also I like the feel of Apple Pencil more. But that's just personal taste
I agree with you, I love the feel of the apple pencil, even just for writing out notes, it feels really nice. I've used wacom tablets and I use an xp pen tablet right now, they're great for what they do, but they both have pen tips instead of an actual pencil tip like apple. I can hold the apple pencil the same way I'd hold a regular pencil, and I can tilt it any which way. With wacom, you pretty much are locked to a specific angle for drawing, like a fineliner pen.
Does anyone know how hard it would be for Apple to provide a hovering cursor for the pencil? From Brad's description of how it works, it actually sounded like it should be possible. I would LOVE to be able to hook my iPad up to a larger screen and work on it like a Wacom but w/o a hovering cursor it's kinda pointless.
I think there’s just one thing keeping Wacom from becoming the perfect pen standard. Palm rejection. If there was a battery powered sensor in the pen, it could send a signal to the tablet to reject palm inputs far more accurately (like on n-trig). This kind of hybridization (if mechanically feasible) could mean incredibly good battery life (since there’s only one sensor being used), while negating waves and palm inputs
I need help some guide if possible from anyone here i have ryzen 2600 build custom pc and i want a tablet to draw with it but im so confused is there a good budget ipad or something that i can connect with pc or which tablet should I buy and pen display vs drawing pad which one is better
What's the best pencil for iPad 9th generation? The Apple Pencil (1° generation) is too expensive in my country so I'm thinking about other compatible one that could do the work. Thank you
I use apple pencil 2 on ipad pro 2020 and i dont get the sense of somewhat perfect palm rejection from it. Like there are almost always accidental dot/stroke when i draw with it.
Haven't finished the video yet, but I was wondering if you think long term use of the apple pencil is worse than samsung pens? I'm curious about the ergonomics of the apple pencil?
What about the Surface Pen? It has an eraser butt too. I have an iPad Mini 6 with the Apple Pencil 2 and a Surface Duo 2 with the Microsoft Slim Pen 2. Of the two, I far prefer drawing on the surface duo than ipad mini, and it comes down to the pen experience. the slim pen 2 feels better than the pencil 2, in my opinion.
Ok I was tracking with this until we got to line quality. Parallax plays a big part of line quality in my opinion. With a 2nd gen Apple pencil I've never experienced Parallax. In my opinion and experience it doesn't matter what Wacom Pen you use from the Cintiq to the Pro parallax happens with a Grip Pen or the Art Pen. It may not start out that way but a some point it hits and it hits bad. Don't get it twisted I still love Wacom! I just don't feel like this is a totally accurate statement
I love this! Why cant most comparisons be like this?? I'm already acccusomted to apple products and it's ecosystem, but as a animation student have started add more variety of tech dislike having to sift through reviews and comparisons that are just restating specs and benchmarks.
for S6 lite, go for newer model, iPaddrawing performance is great despite entry level models has non laminated screen, I recommend use matte screen protector or draw on the bare screen (without screen protector but buy any case that cover the screen.
@@zect556 thanks zect...btw new budget ipad is coming in sep...with pencil 2 support and laminated screen according to rumours....but it must be abourund 40$ then
Was going back and forth between Ipad and Galaxy Tab S6...In the end decided to go for Tab S6 because there was no hover cursor. I thought it would probably bother me in the long run because the apple pencil tips still had somewhat of a thick diameter. Jokes on me though, My wrist starts hurting the moment I use either my cintiq or my tab s6. So I cant really use them at all XD. For some weird reason , it doesn't hurt when I am drawing in traditional medium. I am sure there is a ergonomic issue even though I keep my elbow at my desk and use an gloves to draw. Oh well....
the hovering thing isnt really limited to wacoms emr pen tech tbh. lots of windows devices have that too. btw: the tappable pencil touchbar has a way to sense the position of where you tap it so in theory apple could give you infinite buttons.
Wacom, just because the other is apple. (But also some Wacom pens are forward-compatible with newer tablets, and the Wacom One pen is compatible with Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 and 8, and S21 Ultra.)
I have a Samsung tab S8 Ultra and use a Wacom pen with it. So I get a desktop level drawing program (Clip Studio Paint) along with the best drawing pen. No battery in the pen means I can draw for the full battery life of the tablet and not worry about the pen dying. The S-Pen has a battery, but only for Bluetooth functionality. Drawing can be done without it being charged. Apple WAS the undisputed king, but starting with the S7 line that changed and now with the S8, apple has lost that throne. IMHO naturally.
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We want you to Compare the slim pen 2 to the Apple pencil or the wacom pens
Hi Brad. Thanks for all your good videos. I have a question for you: I have a Wacom Intuos Pro M. Unfortunately one of my cats jumped up one day I was drawing and made an annoying scratch. Not terrible deep or big. But deep enough that I can feel a slight click and wave on the line when I draw. Is it possible to eliminate those scratches some how. Like with a bit of filler and some sanding with grain 1000 or so?
@@Choedron As it's not a display you COULD, but no matter what it's going to change the feel in that area. So you can just deal with a small scratch or sand it down and have a larger area that just feels different. I guess you could also try to fill the scratch somehow. You could even try finding a screen protector of the same size and placing it on the tablet. It will again change the feel, but at least it would be constant across the full tablet. In my experience consistency is the most important thing if you want smooth lines.
what you think about the new xp pen artist 10 2nd gen
The way you used the pens being so chill with each other to illustrate how you shouldn't stress about 'which one is the best' is genius
Especially since each one only works with their respective companion device
Until some Samsung "emr pencil" person "enters the chat"
(but it's sim to the wacom anyways)
It's legit cute :)
Shame they can't get married, cause their families disapprove of each other.
Wacom-eo and Apple-ia
What a script
I prefer the term "message".
Being hyperfoxused on "hqqqq" is bad for creative output...
I think it is shown subtly that Apple Pencil is a little bit superior from their interaction. Wacom is 'slower' at first.
I can only tell from my experience that the pressure curve is much better for Wacom. Especially the lift of cursor is what I miss on Apples pencil and it takes alot more pressure to get an initial stroke. With Wacom I can draw very thin and light lines much easier
In Procreate you can adjust the pressure curve for the Apple Pencil and you can make it however you want to press. For me, I miss the buttons on the apple pencil. (I do use the double tap which at first was weird, but I got used to it)
@@aoterouthat is ridiculous claiming that apple pencil is some how natural feeling is beyond crazy. Samsun pen is way better feeling then apple pencil. Also the apple pencil has some very very light wave the line quality in wacom is simply better. The only pro to apple pencil is procreate besides that hardware wise pro pen 2 is simply better and pro pen 3 i imagine is amazing too. I use apple pencil with i pad for convenience sake and the optimized app is insane especially with procreate
@@aoterou this is some ridiculous claims for a pen with less sensitivity and features. (also a sensitive pen can be customized to feel like an apple pencil. apple pencil cant be tweaked to feel like a wacom pen)
This has no right to be nearly as wholesome as it is. Love it!
Note that Wacom has like 10 different stylus protocols. EMR Digital, EMR Non-digital, AES 1.0, AES 2.0, AES 1.5, etc etc.
The one being compared in the video is EMR Non-digital.
I would love to learn more about this. Do you have a source for which stylus uses which protocol. Or any other links to how those protocols work? I have especially always wondered about the difference between EMR and AES.
@@thesevenpens Sorry, no. Wacom and manufacturers that use wacom pens are intentionally vague as possible on this subject. AES isn't suitable for artwork, it's a very cheap tech designed for note-taking.
@@thesevenpens Well, most tablets/2-in-1 that used Wacom, is using AES. The EMR is generally only used by Samsung and a few specific model from other brand (I think the latest Acer ConceptD line used EMR).
The AES is basically Wacom answer to Microsoft Pen Protocol/Ntrig, both are active capacitive pens, which I believe is cheaper and easier to implement. The Apple Pencil also works similarly.
Do u knw whitch tablet he is using in the vdo?
@@blue4059 Thank you! I'll continue trying to find what I can. It took me forever to dig up and assemble details on EMR :-)
5:00 Slight correction, you can actually double tap just about anywhere on the apple pencil as long as its towards the tip end. Found this out by accident and was super confused
His complaint wasn't about the 'button' being too hard to activate though.
@@tams805 yeah I get that, I don’t do much art with my 2020 iPad Pro but just a bunch of note taking and I guess you do hold the pencil differently depending on what you’re doing. I do actually sometimes go to the eraser in the middle of making notes. It’s annoying but it’s more annoying to me not having quick access to an eraser. To each their own of course; that’s why there’s an option
As someone using them both on an almost daily basis, main takeaway is: Both they will get you where you want to go. The feel of each is different though. For those used to standard pencils, Apple's version comes out more naturally (and the drawing experience feels more natural too). Pressure sensitivity might be a tad more refined on Apple's Pencil too. But these days I've been working more on my 24" workhorse tablet and in the end what counts is getting the job done and both tools are capable of it.
Do you find the smaller point on the wacom (compared to the thicker, almost crayon-like size of the apple pencil) gives you more precision as you draw? As in, can you see exactly where the tip is on the screen, as it's not blocked by the thicker nib? Thanks
The MAIN reason I really can’t bring myself to use apple pencils/iPad pros is the visibility of the cursor
Pulling your eyes off your drawing to adjust brush size is a total flow killer
the cursor bothers me so much on Photoshop, I feel a disconnection from the canvas , I really want Apple to make a drawing tablet lol.
You're not alone, I hear that a lot!
Im with you, Adam. also for brushes with tilt rotation, I need to see the shape and angle of the brush before doing a stroke. the cursor makes everything so much more precise.
That and the weight of the pen, which would be solved too if apple uses an EMR technology in the future. That's why I only use my ipad for doodling at best.
Omg you are sooooo full of surprises! That was such cool animation, Brad! I can't believe you made the time and all the hardwork to create this video along with all the other videos you create. You are my hero!
3:00 - 3:23 This piece of information explained to me why the pencil on Procreate always seemed to be wavier than just using paper and pencil. If only Wacom had a version of the Mobile Studio Pro that was as portable as the iPad without all the bulkiness.
With the Apple Pencil, palm rejection is fantastic-but that’s kinda a recent thing. When I first got my iPad Pro (2020) I had to get a glove or turn off touch input altogether in Procreate. Notes/Markup still does it every now and then, though not nearly as much
Nice to see both are not fighting... while there is overlap, both have their own specific use case and can compliment each other :)
One of the best side to side comparison, you rock Brad!
I actually use huion and the pen is similarly shaped to Wacom pens. Very nice feel. I use the huion kamvas 22 pro which is pretty good for the price! Definitely more affordable than Wacom for a product that works really well!
@@sodapopjami dont notice any delay on my huion pen, but the tip can be an issue if you push hard when drawing
Just finished watching the video. Brad, this is an amazing video. Keep up the great work and thanks for entertaining us with such a funny video!
Thanks, I'm going to be trying some new things around here. Glad you liked my early experiment.
@@thebradcolbow I love the fact that video style is pretty much the same. But, the little animations are so fun. You should definitely make them from now on. If that is reasonable, that is. Don't stress yourself out too much by pushing so much on quality. We will still love your vids nonetheless.
The most important question for anyone who is focused on drawing and doesn't make a living from digital art should not be what is the better pen, but the better overall concept.
I'm 100% with Wacom when it comes to pen quality, drawing feel, flexibility and features as well as supported applications. And yet I draw significantly more on the iPad.
It's smaller, lighter, mobile,, has great battery life and a great display, and the Apple Pencil is just fantastically integrated into the system.
I don't know the latest Samsung devices yet, but so far nothing on the tablet market could hold a candle to the Apple Pencil.
The S-pen Pro would be an nice inclusion to this vid 😉😉😉
All S-pen from samsung has EMR technology provided by wacom, it would be a bit redundant.
@@MakiNoAtorie Just becouse wacom licenses out the emr tech to Samsung, doesn't mean that "wacom pro pen 2" and the "S-pen Pro" have the same qualities. The sppen doesnt work on wacom products, and only the Wacom pen that works on Samsung products (don't know about the tab s8 series) is the pen that comes with wacom one 13. Wacom pro pen 2 it's on another level then both the Sppen pro and the apple pencil 2gen. I think that the last would have been a better comparison. PS. Spen pro is a separate purchase, it doesn't come with any tablets or phone, that's the regular spen
5:06 IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING!?
You have no idea how much time I've spent googling why I keep randomly switching to eraser in the middle of drawing in procreate! So much time changing settings, trying to figure out what gesture I'm accidentally triggering... It's been so frustrating, but something I've just gotten used to after dealing with it for 3 years.
I just checked, and that's exactly what it is. All this time. All those hours searching for an answer. And I was just holding my pencil too close to the tip. Good lord.
Wow. First I'd heard of it, too!
Can that be toggled off, I wonder.
It’s in the pencil tutorial that pops up when you first use it…
Visit store page of the product before make a purchase really helps
So much fun! These guys need their own show.
Loved the animations and personality you gave both pencils :D
Great video, and love my Galaxy laptop you recommended. It’s been great to go from writing to drawing with ease. If I were to buy one of these it might be the Apple Pencil, but it’s only because it’s with the tablet. If I pick any it would be the galaxy tab s8.
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Let's gooo, Brad!
I think it's worth pointing out that the Wacom pen described here is the one which comes with their pro-level products. The pen which comes with their cheaper Wacom One pen display is different. Not that it's a bad pen by any means, but compared to the Pro Pen 2 it has half the number of pressure levels, and no eraser.
i use that one for my samsung, so for me it's no issue that the pressure levels are lower, cos it's still the same as the s pen for that model
Is the number of pressure levels actually noticeable compared to the lower end Wacom? I'm far from a good artist, so I genuinely have no idea
@@whenhen Pressure level, not really. I think what you gain with the pro is a more solid experience, the pen feels better and have more buttons with eraser back. The display looks better and more accurate, the Cintiq Pro even have laminated screen and textured glass, which improves drawing experience.
As far as line quality goes, using S-pen (the same tech as Wacom One) is already as good and I don't think most will see the difference. The pro is just providing you a better experience.
It's exactly the same technology though, just artificially segregated.
The Wacom Feel/Spen has fewer levels of pressure sensitivity (but still a lot), and two-button pens are very rare for current generation of pens (there are quite a few first generation ones, and they do work, but the offset is terrible). There are also a few pens with erasers out there for it, and you can make your own Frankenpen if you want.
On the current generation pens, one button and an eraser should always work. Most drivers, especially Samsung ones, don't support a second button though.
@@whenhen Higher pressure value of the pen give you more line variety/opacity maybe, I used both wacom one (2048 PS) and Huin Kamvas 13 (around 8000 PS)
Another GREAT example of why I tune in on every one of your videos! Great work, as always Brad! Informative, creative … and funny. How can you beat that?
I am a hobby artist in my 40's and I started digital art 2018 when I got the 6th gen. iPad with first generation Apple Pencil. I have also used the Apple Pencil gen. 2. I appreciate Apple Pencil gen. 2 magnetic wireless charging way better than the Apple Pencil gen. one needing to be plugged in to the iPad. I have never used a Wacom or Samsung stylus. But maybe some day will use a Wacom or Samsung stylus. I am just into the Apple ecosystem so I like iPad and Apple Pencil.
I want to ask I am a beginner to digital art and want to invest in graphic tablet should I go for a smaller 7 inch entry level or a 10inch drawing surface
I always suggest a 10inch - a medium size. I made a video explaining why: th-cam.com/video/lGAhzRcMS3s/w-d-xo.html
medium or 10 inch, pick large if you are using bigger monitor at size somewhere around 27-32 inches. medium (10 inch) will go well for most screen size.
THIS IS SO FUN TO WATCH!!! Great one, Brad!!! 😆😆👍👍
Wow I've never been this early. Edit: The introduction is so funny!
Apple pence by a mile. I love the iPad but it's too small. Now if Apple made an iPad 24" I would spend whatever they asked for it.
it's important to note that the Wacom pens have different tips available. one has a spring in it that makes it really nice to draw with. Also the wacom art pen supports rotation.
I wonder why Wacom and other tablet manufacturers don't make the shapes of the stylus more pencil like, specially the tip. That is one big plus of the Apple pencil.
There are some third parties who make Wacom-compatible pencils. The Staedtler Noris Digital is quite nice, and there's also the Mitsubishi Hi-Uni Digital. Though the difference is mainly in how they feel in the hand: the tips still aren't really pencil-like.
I really do not understand what people seem to love about the Apple pencil tip. I use the Apple Pencil on my iPad Air - and I also used Wacom Pencils - but I just don't get it.
i think it is primarily because they are easier to stand up straight if their tip is wider.
I guess that's because the tip is designed to be used with textured screen of these tablets, as they will wear out fairly quickly, it has to be small and easy to replace. The small tip means they are cheaper to make and can be stored easily so you always have a spare.
That said, I'm not sure how the Apple Pencil tip wore out if you use something like Paperlike, but it seems to be more expensive to replace and storing the bigger tip need more space. I knew my Surface Slim Pen wear out quite fast after I added a matte screen protector, so perhaps it's similar. They were designed to use with smooth glass.
I’ve heard this question/complaint before . And my answer would be that not all artists use a pencil . I’ve never understood why an artist would want everything to be like a pencil. As a pro I use many different tools and pencils are only a beginning tool.
0:52 Wait, did you say "ElectroMagnetic Resonance" and then say "E-R-M?" How did that happen?
(sorry for the nitpick, but as someone who used to obsess over this stuff, I had to say something)
I love how you keep them friendly competitive, rather than trying to outmuscle each other.
Great writing!
Also, props on mentioning the cheaper alternatives as well; people always forget that.
Great vid, Brad, and keep up the awesome!
Yeah, I'm horrible with acronyms so I totally mixed up the letters 🤣
Wacoms Sensor calibration is way superior to the apple pencil, the pressure Curve has a natural feeling, which is responding to your individual habits of holding the pen. There is no unsteady or poorly calibrated area in the whole tilt and pressure range. Apple on the other hand has only very few tilt levels and done some software magic to "guess" how you are holding the pen. This is not sensorfusion but a program that will switch into "different modi of tilts. When you tilt the apple pencil or hold it further up as it is common for traditional drawing, you will be very well made aware of its flaws. The tilt is unsteady towards the angles of 60° or more. The longer I use the Ipad and Cintiq, I am tilting towards wacom. It is the superior product when it comes to drawing. Apple however can outmanoveur this technical advantage with usability, which is initially giviing you more comfort space.
This was an informative video, thank you. I still have a question. I use the iPad with a pencil and it works great. But one downside is the glass screen feels slippery, and my handwriting isn't as neat as it would be for real paper. I understand this is likely do as much to the iPad as to the pencil itself. I do wonder if the Wacom is better in this regard, or if some other handwriting device setup might be?
Most newer models of screened drawing tablets come with some sort of textured cover or protector pre-installed. Wacom goes farther and actually has etched glass on their newer models, the glass itself is textured so you don't get that slippery feel and dont need a cover. Although, I don't think it's worth spending wacom money to get a slightly better handwriting experience, they are freaking expensive.
I don't own a Wacom and rarely use my Apple Pencil, but this video was great; well done!
This is such a great video. I love how you keep trying to rile them up, only to have them support each other. LOL
Wacom pens pros is you can use on many desktop applications.
Can also be used for sculpting in Zbrush Or Blender if you are into that as well.
Apple Pencil got Procreate which I find the best app when it comes to drawing. Sure photoshop got lot of features but i feel less intimidated with Procreate than in Photoshop. Also I like the feel of Apple Pencil more. But that's just personal taste
I agree with you, I love the feel of the apple pencil, even just for writing out notes, it feels really nice. I've used wacom tablets and I use an xp pen tablet right now, they're great for what they do, but they both have pen tips instead of an actual pencil tip like apple. I can hold the apple pencil the same way I'd hold a regular pencil, and I can tilt it any which way. With wacom, you pretty much are locked to a specific angle for drawing, like a fineliner pen.
Brad loves Character Animator now! 😄
Great video btw! 😎
I enjoyed the style of the video. You should do these animated ones often.
This video is absolute genius in how it is presented.
Tbh, I love this new format of videos.
Okay, so the wobbly diagonal line isn’t just me. That is good to know
Hey , I have an IPad 9th gen and I need a stylus. What Wacom stylus should I get for procreate or should I just buy Apple Pencil? Please help
THE BUTTON JOKE GOT ME
if i take notes on a wacom pen every day then. on an avg how many days a nib of pen will last? can anyone help ??
This was the simplest and most PG comparison review, and I'm all for it haha
Question: I’m buying a drawing tablet for animation but I don’t have a computer is there other tablets that can be used for iPhone ipad and ipad air
que genial video, primera vez que veo una comparativa tan buena y objetiva
It's Brad style... And it's AWESOME
Does anyone know how hard it would be for Apple to provide a hovering cursor for the pencil? From Brad's description of how it works, it actually sounded like it should be possible. I would LOVE to be able to hook my iPad up to a larger screen and work on it like a Wacom but w/o a hovering cursor it's kinda pointless.
Loving the new animated format, but please do have your animated self to blink D:
I think there’s just one thing keeping Wacom from becoming the perfect pen standard. Palm rejection. If there was a battery powered sensor in the pen, it could send a signal to the tablet to reject palm inputs far more accurately (like on n-trig). This kind of hybridization (if mechanically feasible) could mean incredibly good battery life (since there’s only one sensor being used), while negating waves and palm inputs
Don't the Samsung Tab 8's use Wacom EMR technology and therefore can use the Wacom EMR pens?
We need a new video.
I need help some guide if possible from anyone here i have ryzen 2600 build custom pc and i want a tablet to draw with it but im so confused is there a good budget ipad or something that i can connect with pc or which tablet should I buy and pen display vs drawing pad which one is better
I have a Lenovo m10 what digital tablet should I get
Gosh I missed these animations. And I also never realized the Apple Pencil does jittery lines.
very cute format :3 thanks for your effort
congratulations on 700k!!
What Wacom needs is a 120hz refresh drawing panel. That alone will make drawing with the pen twice as good.
Does the better wacom stylus work on the USB tab for windows? Just wondering?
Wacom Intuos
never thought i'd see a comparison video this fun and cute
What's the best pencil for iPad 9th generation? The Apple Pencil (1° generation) is too expensive in my country so I'm thinking about other compatible one that could do the work.
Thank you
Awesome video Brad! Love the animation and cartoon you.
can wacom, x-pen and huion pen use on samsung s9 tablets?
no
Wow, this is like a cartoon. Must have been hard to make even with just bendy puppets.
I use apple pencil 2 on ipad pro 2020 and i dont get the sense of somewhat perfect palm rejection from it. Like there are almost always accidental dot/stroke when i draw with it.
In which program is this animation done? how long did it take?
"Are you into anime? ah I'm into anime!" I love them😭💛
Great video! Did you animate the cartoons using Adobe character animator?
Haven't finished the video yet, but I was wondering if you think long term use of the apple pencil is worse than samsung pens? I'm curious about the ergonomics of the apple pencil?
What about the Surface Pen? It has an eraser butt too. I have an iPad Mini 6 with the Apple Pencil 2 and a Surface Duo 2 with the Microsoft Slim Pen 2. Of the two, I far prefer drawing on the surface duo than ipad mini, and it comes down to the pen experience. the slim pen 2 feels better than the pencil 2, in my opinion.
Ok I was tracking with this until we got to line quality. Parallax plays a big part of line quality in my opinion. With a 2nd gen Apple pencil I've never experienced Parallax. In my opinion and experience it doesn't matter what Wacom Pen you use from the Cintiq to the Pro parallax happens with a Grip Pen or the Art Pen. It may not start out that way but a some point it hits and it hits bad. Don't get it twisted I still love Wacom! I just don't feel like this is a totally accurate statement
I have a huion drawing display. And i turn off one of the buttons on the pen i accidentally pressed that button too often.
Could you please review the XP PEN STAR G640 Graphics Design tablet?
Did you animate this on adobe character animator?
Love the animation. No rolling credits at the end?
I was drawing on a surface pro...I saved and bought an ipad and the feel was so slippery I stopped drawing for 6 months.
I love this! Why cant most comparisons be like this??
I'm already acccusomted to apple products and it's ecosystem, but as a animation student have started add more variety of tech dislike having to sift through reviews and comparisons that are just restating specs and benchmarks.
This one with a great storyline, loved it.
S6 lite spen, how is it for drawing experience, or should i go for old ipad
iPad, if you already have a laptop, non display graphic tablet might be good for you
@@zect556 thanks..., i have a touchscreen laptop , to buy a sttylusbut i am not able to find out if it is mpp supported or not
for S6 lite, go for newer model, iPaddrawing performance is great despite entry level models has non laminated screen, I recommend use matte screen protector or draw on the bare screen (without screen protector but buy any case that cover the screen.
@@zect556 thanks zect...btw new budget ipad is coming in sep...with pencil 2 support and laminated screen according to rumours....but it must be abourund 40$ then
@@i_mmm_u better keep the money for now, new iPad might be worth it.
Is wacom creative stylus 2 good for drawing?
Was going back and forth between Ipad and Galaxy Tab S6...In the end decided to go for Tab S6 because there was no hover cursor. I thought it would probably bother me in the long run because the apple pencil tips still had somewhat of a thick diameter.
Jokes on me though, My wrist starts hurting the moment I use either my cintiq or my tab s6. So I cant really use them at all XD. For some weird reason , it doesn't hurt when I am drawing in traditional medium. I am sure there is a ergonomic issue even though I keep my elbow at my desk and use an gloves to draw. Oh well....
I was just saying the Apple Pencil can hover across the screen it’s just with that and to iPad Pro only that iPad can use a feature
Umm that is the cutest review videos I have ever seen
You're having a lot of fun with animator!
the hovering thing isnt really limited to wacoms emr pen tech tbh. lots of windows devices have that too. btw: the tappable pencil touchbar has a way to sense the position of where you tap it so in theory apple could give you infinite buttons.
creativity is always very much nice to see.
Video idea: drawing using an Apple Pencil vs drawing using your fingers
My pick? Surface pro, it's fun
Wacom, just because the other is apple.
(But also some Wacom pens are forward-compatible with newer tablets, and the Wacom One pen is compatible with Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 and 8, and S21 Ultra.)
Plz make video on lenovo m10 fhd plus 3rd gen or p11 etc
does wacom stylus work on ipad?
I have a Samsung tab S8 Ultra and use a Wacom pen with it. So I get a desktop level drawing program (Clip Studio Paint) along with the best drawing pen. No battery in the pen means I can draw for the full battery life of the tablet and not worry about the pen dying. The S-Pen has a battery, but only for Bluetooth functionality. Drawing can be done without it being charged. Apple WAS the undisputed king, but starting with the S7 line that changed and now with the S8, apple has lost that throne. IMHO naturally.
I was not ready for the ending but was secretly rooting there would be a brawl🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please make a video of OPPO PAD AIR on writing experience
Hey Brad, I am looking to order the XP Pen Artist 24 (non pro, the newer one). How do would you rate it? Are there any other options that you would want me to consider? (I am an animator and lookin for a larger canvas to work, my budget is around 500-600 usd)
why you havenot made any video yet aout lenovo tablet drawing....are they not good enough
Make a video about the surface book vs surface laptop studio
brad colbow reviews are superb