5 Reason A Simple Drawing Tablet is Better
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- A lot of professional artists don't use the latest greatest most expensive drawing tech out there. Why? well there are some really good reasons and I go over them in this video.
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Brad: "Tools don't matter as much as you think they do."
*Decides not to buy a tablet and continues using a mouse*
Tablet help you with your drawing but didn't make your drawing better but drawing tablet help you alot i recommend you buy one any one is just fine
gapple * who needs mouse if you can draw with a trackpad? lol
@@adammalik5397 Who needs a track pad if you can draw with your keyboard?
who needs a mouse when you can draw with a pencil?
I know someone who draws (and even animates) using only a mouse. You can do anything you put your mind to.
Me: Buys wacom cintiq pro 32
6 hours later: sees video
DATS SAD 😂
If you can afford a cintiq pro 32 then you have no right to be here XD
@@Lemon-limon exactly, this is the broke club lol
I have a Cintiq pro 16 and most of the time use it with the screen turned off because otherwise my neck and my hand start to hurt. I only use the screen for inking.
I also have a cintiq pro from last year, its way too expensive for what it is. Not worth it for me at least, but glad that my job bought me one. Still end up using my thinkpad tablet x1 way more than the cintiq
Really, the main reasons I want a screen to draw on is because I recently went to back good ol' pencil and paper and felt like I had more control over what I was doing. While I have gotten used to my pen tab over the two years I've had it, it still feels a little off at times. I like it when the lines I'm drawing are actually coming *from* the pen/pencil.
Update: Got my hands on the XP-Pen 15.6 Pro a few months ago. Come to realize that a display tablet is exactly what I wanted. I'm loving this thing to bits!
BRO YES
BRO YES
right? literally i find some of my digital drawings on a tablet are waay ickier than some of my drawings on paper
@@graysonheartache exactly I was hoping it to feel like pencil on paper instead of pencil on ice welp nothing is perfect so
True, but this kind of posture will affect you from drawing on the screen display.
"A new product isn't going to make your art any better, the only thing that gonna do that is you."
I really really needed to hear that, thank you🌻
I didn't, I want shortcuts, dammit!
So you're giving up too?
"i jUsTt nE3dED t0 hEar tHAt, tHANk y0u"
So fucking cringe
Well its a tool. You could use a rock or a pickaxe to mine. One is more efficient but if you have no idea how to use it.
@@bigmanbobflyhigh look at your own channel bruv karate playlist and one called "comedy gold" n it's just SNL skits n family guy clips + you have a video that looks like it's just you at fucking karate practice. your entire personality is cringe buddy.
I really do admire that he thinks my posture can be better. No one ever had that much faith in me
You better have man, make sure you have a good posture, now it's all fun and games, in few years you're going to hate your self for you back pain
@@kendarr you just made me sit up straight
@@mari-xc5ei hell yeah, I got a good chair when I noticed I spend 13 hours + on my pc, also using a pen and tablet as mouse for a while to not destroy my wrist too lol, invest in a good chair, best long term stuff you can do
Don’t feel bad. I technically have good posture but I think it’s just because my back doesn’t actually bend much.
@camiisu #8681 yeah I know the felling, we just slide its wierd
This makes me feel better about being poor
Pen tablet is still better. I used mine for years. Still using it although I bought cintiq pro 1 year back. Never using cintiq though, due to the viewing angle (posture). Viewing monitor with pen tablet is better for neck.
@@VeryFunStudioI draw with air
@@pepsiman4282 this type of humor 😂
the most realistic comment in this comment section, lolllll
Hahahaha same 👁👄👁
Brad after making this video "ahhhh now that that's done" (sits down and starts animating on his 1000 dollar tablet) 😂
Things change when you're a professional. Time is money, and saving a little time add$ up fa$t
Haha yeah
The disconnect between drawing on one surface and seeing it on another surface is the reason pen displays are much better for me. For other artists, this might not bother them. But seeing the ink appear right beneath my pen onto a pen display was a complete game changer for me and I wouldn't go back to a basic tablet if you paid me to. Spent years using a tablet and never felt as connected to my digital art as I do with a pen display
@@pushkinnagpure2619 nah it wouldn't be a problem
"Tools don't matter as much as you think they do."
Me: keeps drawing with my pinky on my Laptop Touchpad.
Hahahaha -witty-
Come to think of it Maximilian is right. Our Laptop Touchpad is the World Smallest Graphic Drawing Tablet! Hold the Touchpad down with one hand and use the other to draw freely. So we're basically paying for a Bigger Touchpad than the one on our Laptop. Go figure.
Here’s some advice for doing this, I do it all the time, it helps and works better than going in the a pinky. You should hold a pencil and push your pointer finger farther than the point/end of the pencil. This way it feels like you’re holding a tool and feels more stable
@@daylight3999 dude just get a cheap stylus then
Me: drawing from my phone
"5 reasons a simple drawing tablet is better"
*gives life advice on how posture is good and stretching is healthy for the body*
@@couchpotatomakesart7307 No.
@@couchpotatomakesart7307 ig u would appreciate but dont promote yourself lmao
@@couchpotatomakesart7307 can you not do that
@@inferno7181 stop being rude
@Alma Hamdani hello, thanks for supporting ❤️
I've had my Cintiq 22HD for years. Still works great.
Thing is, I bought it BEFORE I learned to draw; I didn't want any excuses. While it gave me confidence in drawing as a whole, it did not make me a good artist.
Even after spending $2,000 on a Cintiq, I had to put in time to learn. The best and worst thing about digital art is that you can CTRL+Z every mistake as if it never happened. This makes you focus too much on corrections rather than pushing through it and continuing to draw -- which is what you want to learn.
In the end, I forced myself to live with my mistakes by keeping sketchbooks that I draw in ink so that I cannot erase. That's when I really began to improve.
$2k Cintiq vs. $100 Intuos tablet vs. $10 sketchbook and someone's stolen pen: while a screenless tablet vs. drawing display can bring about great arguments, the traditional sketchbook has a subtle power within it that cannot be reproduced by any tablet or display -- and I've used all three.
Don't disregard sketchbooks; they are the simplest and most elegant records of history that remind you of who you were, reflect who you are, and motivate you to be the artist you still want to be.
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no tool makes you a good artist
I had an artist friend who I tried to help once.
I told him how he could protect the screen on his new expensive drawing monitor with clear vinyl.
He said he didn't need to.
A few years later he's complaining that his monitor is all scratched up and how it will cost so much money to replace it.
Whelp
Did you already say "I told you so." ? ╮(╯▽╰)╭
1. textured surface
2. no parallax
3. price
4. simple to use
5. Long life span
Wait, does cintq doensn't have a textured surface?
It sure does! I dunno if it's as gritty as a bamboo tablet though. You can also use the felt/paper?tip point if you feel it's a problem.
Yoshi Stover, it’s pretty nice. I’ve used a bamboo and a studio pro and the etched glass is pretty nice
Mvp
doesnt it actually have huge parallax if you think about it? you even have to develop new hand-eye coordination
number 6: you don't have to sell your soul to the devil everytime you have to calibrate the screen to the pen, it is never perfectly calibrated and i hate it so much
Same i have wacom cintiq and calibrated it 3 times and it is still not enough
How do you calibrate it the way you like? I mean how many shots did it take to get that sensitivity and how long before it fell how of calibration again.
Elena_stories it’s so sad knowing that this problem applies also for a real wacom (wacom alternative user)
Katsudesu tiktok I don’t really know what you mean but everything depends on the posture you have or what angle you look at the screen, the calibration can be perfect when you are drawing completely straight but if you move your posture just a little it can effect the screen, so i always recalibrate it every time i change position, I can’t tell how many shots you have to take since I don’t know your preferences lmao, but I usually prefer a perfect calibration so i always spend 30 minutes a day trying to make it work
@@lebade899 oh well that's nice to know! I've never had an artist grade tablet before so I really look forward to getting my xp-pen 15.6 pro and any details that can help me are better too lol
There were so many mixed reviews I was a little scared to buy this.-I work 10 hour shifts th-cam.com/users/postUgkxAxiUS5CgVC3j8FwNOHt037zhsquGQpXv and I can watch lectures, jam out, and read articles all day and only use 30-40% of the battery.-The screen is beautiful and the touch is accurate-The camera is on the edge, making this perfect for Zoom calls (I also have the keyboard with the back piece)-It's super thin. The bulk of my iPad kept me from using it often-I never realized how lazy I was until this pencil. The button and flick action (volume up and down, next and back) mean I can kick back without having to lean forward to make changes. I feel like a witch.Only 1 real complaint if it can even be called that, it comes with one background in like 6 colors. It's easy enough to find new ones... but why so stingy?
As someone who has owned a Cintiq 13" HD for some years now, I can say that having a tablet screen can be a bit overrated. I actually ended up using my Cintiq more as a regular Intuos because of the bad posture problem giving me some nasty neck pain and because my main screen has way more screen space for me to check my artwork with. Once you have learned how to draw without a screen you really don't need one to work, so the novelty of having one really wore off for me over time.
I only really think that getting a screen tablet is worth it if you have access to a solid work desk and a larger screen Cintiq, but that would mean spending some serious cash for something that could be done with a regular no screen tablet and a gaming screen. It's actually cheaper to get a great gaming screen with proper colour management and 1440p - 4k resolution as well as a no screen tablet than spending it on a single Cintiq that has similar specs as the gaming screen. My next purchase is actually going to be an Intuos Pro and a G7 (32" with HDR support) or G9 Odyssey screen (49" with excellent HDR support) depending on my budget, which will still be cheaper than buying a 24" Cintiq Pro (not even counting the desk needed to mount it).
So yeah. I don't regret buying my Cintiq, but unless I have some serious cash to burn I am not planning on getting another one any time soon. Non-Cintiq Wacom tablets are good enough.
Do you still think the same way, and did you buy the Intuos Pro? I tried drawing with the screen and Wacom stylus on my old Thinkpad, but the screen space was too cramped and uncomfortable. I came to a similar conclusion as you did and bought myself a regular pen tablet so I can see my screen better.
@@zinput I bought the G9 Odyssey and Wacom Intuos Pro, yes. I do not regret it for one second. I still am going to use my Cintiq 13" since I bought the Intuos Pro primarily to work on it at school (didn't want to carry it back and forth every week so I could work at home or at school). The new screen is absolutely fantastic for painting thanks to how good the colour management is out of the box and it is so nice being able to paint with HDR enabled.
The Intuos Pro is also very solid. Pretty happy that I got myself the large model, since it allows for larger sweeping brush strokes. It's a very good tablet.
Same here. My Cintiq 13”HD started leaking some sort of weird oil that I couldn’t identify so I thought that was a good oportunity to step down and go back to my old buddy Intuos Pen Small. Don’t regret a bit and it’s been so much better for my back health! I really enjoyed the tilt feature on the Cintiq so I bought the XP-Pen Deco Mini7 to see if it’s good like the monitor.
I agree I still use my wacom intuos 3, thing is a workhorse.
Michelangelo looking down from heaven laughing at the ergonomics info after he painted the ceiling of the sistine chapel.
How many Michelangelos and sistine chapels do we have in history .. ? ergonomics is for humans not geniuses and legends ..
@@prakkyysharma6481 "We are all Michelangelo's with sleeping hands" - Friedrich Nietzsche. 😁
Well, he wasn't looking down to paint it
@@worldcomicsreview354 Depends on the viewing angle
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1:56 “Do people really work for 50 years?”
Miyazaki: *Do not underestimate my power*
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Lovelyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Araki: *fool*
latinoamerican people: observe...
This is some solid advice that might have prevented me from making an expensive mistake. I am not a digital artist. I don’t have that talent. I am more of a digital mechanical designer. I design and make blueprints but not on a draftsman level.
You don't need talent to be an artist. You have to put in the hours.
It's not about talent. It's about tenacity.
For me, having a display tablet was a dream ever since I heard that these things existed. Once I finally got my hands on one, I didn't really like it.
I got a cheap pen tablet for christmas about 12 years ago and I used it for about 8 years. It took some getting used to it (about an hour or so. For me it was not as bad as you might think) and it worked just fine. Then I upgrated to a display tablet (a Huion Kamvas 20). I was super excited and used it a lot in the beginning. But the more I used it, the more I recognised that I didn't like it as much as I hoped. I felt like I couldn't see what I was doing because my hand was in the way and my eyes got really tired quickly because the screen was closer to my face. So I caught myself looking at my main monitor more than on the display tablet. Besides I had to rearrange my desk everytime I wanted to use the tablet, because it was too big to be put on my desk in a drawing position permanently. That got annoying really quickly.
I sold it in July (after having it for 3 1/2 years) because I got the feeling that I wasn't using it as much as I should for what I paid for it. I got myself a pen tablet in exchange and I'm way happier with it. So, having a display tablet may sound like the greatest thing ever, but it might not be the best solution for you and your workflow.
I needed this
This is the exact same thing happening to me with the tablet I just bought, I think I'm gonna need to return it
same, and the ergonomics topic hits really close to home. I see myself with curved spine and neck all the time when drawing with a display tablet. I'm past 30 and ergonomics plays a big role 😅
I cannot use a pen tablet even for the most basic of tasks, conversely I'll say a screen tablet is worlds above a screenless
@@holoarcade quite simply... Raise the device? I'm bewildered how people don't know the basics of having an ergonomic desk setup, simply elevating the display tablet enough to see properly whilst maintaining a comfortable angle to draw or use it is not hard at all
Reason 6 - your hand doesn't obscure what you're drawing
well if you have a 2inone or sth with a screen you can either connect it to another monitor or let windows just double your screen lol
wrong!
Reason -1: It takes forever to draw
Reson -2: your hand gets broken in 1 month
Like in regular drawing?
+1 for this!
One reason to get a pen tablet display : speeeeeed! I’ve been coloring for DC & Marvel for years, and one thing that matters to me the most when switching to a pen tablet display thingy is how fast I can get the brush stroke that I wanted. I worked on a pen tablet for a very long time, and I found out that my eye hand coordination is suck. For those like me, working directly on screen is a blessing. My speed when coloring a page is at least twice as fast compared when I was using a pen tablet. But hey, to each their own!
How can you work for both DC and Marvel. I thought there was a contract that you had to sign that stats you can't disclose information and can't work for another studio.
@@LandofNonecom I'm a freelance colorist, not exclusive, so I can work for any publishers
@@arifpria Ahh, yeah that makes much more sense. Do you have an Artstation or other media sites where you post your art to. I would love to take a look at them.
@@LandofNonecom I'm mostly on IG these days : @arifprianto_arf
@@arifpria I gave you a follow. Your stuff is dope man.
As someone who is now looking into getting a Pen Display, because I feel like the bigger size and it not being flat on the desk will be better for my wrist. I've had my Wacom Bamboo for 11 years, and scratches and dings aside, it still works just as well as it ever has.
I know it won't make my art better, but I do feel like drawing right on the screen will help me draw faster. Which is also really important.
When 2022 hits .i would have been a artist for 50 years. Time flys when your having fun.
I'm here because I want to feel good about my simple drawing tablet
oh. i'm here to see if terry cruise somehow saw this video and commented
same here ahah
Same reason
Same
Which tablet are you using ?
"OK, Wacom is a bad example"
Laughed my A$$ off on that one😂😂😂
Wait why is Wacom a bad example? Is it bad or just expensive? I just ordered the Intuos Small, thinking it was a good starting tablet
@@theconfusedllama9405 don't get me wrong, it is a good tablet, it's just that it's too expensive for a few of us
@@Nyeowww Ohh ok
@@theconfusedllama9405 For a cheaper price I bought myself a Huion with 8k sensitivity, pen tilt and a bigger drawing area lol
@@hex_6590 Huion gang rise up
In my opinion, as someone who used to draw traditional, screen drawing is so much easier and feels more natural. For me, drawing this way is so much helpful since is similar to my traditional art and I can get used to it faster. I know the prices are HUGE but they're worth it if u know what u want and follow lots of reviews; However, there's different companies with better/decent tablets out there, if you're on a budget. Not anyone can buy an Ipad air/pro or a wacom, sadly this are the most popular selections in this area (sometimes is not about the details and specifications, is more like sponsorship and companies logos) I think is impressive if you can draw on those type of non-screen tablets but in my point of view I can't 😭 Is just feels off for me, also I have a bad relationship between eye-hand coordination.
It's not just getting used to, I've been drawing on a screenless tablet for a year now, drawing on paper is still much faster and natural to me, especially since I draw with a heavy emphasis on line art, I doubt I will ever be time efficient on screenless. So no worries it's not only about getting used to it. Some styles of drawing are just at a huge disadvantage if you're using screenless. The 2 things I think are doable decently on screenless tab are digital painting esp the more expressive one and 3d modeling.
I can't draw on a non screen tablet too, it just takes a long time even if i do and it drives me crazy sometimes, i drew alot on my fone before and apparently i prefer my fone than the tablet, my job demands faster work to be done.
As a traditional and digital artist, I completely agree with you. I have tried drawing on a none-screen tablet before and I felt very uncomfortable doing so. Plus my coordinations are so bad, I'd stick with screen tablets 😅
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"sitting in a chair with your back straight looking ahead at a monitor is gonna be way better for your back and neck"
Me with a simple tablet: hunches over with my face a foot from the screen in deep concentration while drawing
no, it hurts thinking about it!
*literally im the exact same*
*agree*
my back hurts a lot from drawing, and i have a drawing tablet 😩
Same
5 reasons drawing with a mouse is better than a drawing tablets
I bet one of the reasons is the price
Ive actually done a lot of work with a mouse before I had a drawing tablet. You get used to the feeling after a couple months.
Samson Kangiser *months*
As a former mouse user artist for 7 years:
-More accessible than a tablet
-You don't have to worry about carrying an extra piece of hardware and just whip out the same mouse you'll use for your laptop
-You just brute-force on learning a drawing technique that seems impossible to do using mouse
-You get to flex that you drew with a mouse :p
@@Kogami yeah, agreed. I think it does take time and seems super counter intuitive and i guess part of it is, but if thats all you have? Its well worth learning the techniques cause it is so funny to see peoples disbelief when you say that the giant picture of goku in a bob ross painting you did was done in MS Paint with a mouse with a trackball.
i appreciate this video. i’m a beginner graphic designer & im trying to choose between the 2. but have realized that a drawing tablet may be better for me whenever i’m on the go so i can still work & practice !
I'm trying to decide what kind of tablet to get and this was really helpful!
"People work for 50 years?" Man, here in Brazil, people work for 100 years!
Edit: Please, this is not literal, it is a criticism of the Brazilian political system. This way it's almost impossible to retire. After the pension reform, people end up dying before retiring.
Edit. 2: I love that Americans don't understand irony or figure of speech!
triste
That's exactly what I thought, thinking about my grandma working as a housekeeper till her 70ies and only stopped because she got ill. Hope she leaves the hospital soon...
True. Grandpa is a doctor and worked till his 80s (he only stopped recently bc of the pandemic)
We in the West dont get that old, so 50years is the max we can get😉
That's if they don't get killed in a robbery first
So I just ordered the draw-a-tron 8000 even though my Cintiq from 2009 is working like the day I got it!
oh no you’ve made a terrible mistake :D
wrong... that's the model not powered by lemurs...
ReckonerUK Nothing but unnecessary consumerism. I’m still using the same cheap Wacom tablet I bought for tertiary school 14 years ago - no problems.
Hahahaha unexpected reference
Lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I bought an Intuos Art 5-6 years ago, and it's working just as well as the day I bought it. Even tough I have a big pen display from Huion now, I still use it to make art when traveling.
And I can really second the part about the pose. I feel it a lot more in my shoulder or back when working with the Pen Display, as my arms need to move more; whereas on my intuos I basically had everything in a small space right in front of me and barely had to raise my fingers to reach any key combination I could need.
i have always had a simple drawing tablet, and i couldnt see myself going over to a drawing monitor ever! :) - i like the way my hands isnt in the way of the drawing, and i can go in full zen mode on the screen in relaxed position without awkward hand movements on a monitor! :) and i have never had any problems with hand eye coordination, took literally 5 minutes it is really really easy to get used to!! :)
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"Your neck ,your back your.."
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"..going to pay the price."
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my neck, my back
@Bhavya Gautam uhhh 🤔
@Bhavya Gautam too bad you're flat
Sorry im flat too
@@quackquackDUCKS its okay, me too
I came to the comments hoping to see this 😂 🐱🍑
"Tools don't matter as much as you think they do."
Me:
*Drawing using my phone with my fingers.*
I knew it!
Buy a cheap stylus, mate
I do the same bro
@@jeromemarchan1046 I just did. Thank you!
In my opinion, a stylus makes my art worse whenever using it with my phone. I'd rather use my finger because it feels as if I have more control, and more space to work with. With the stylus, everything feels chunky lmao.
@@freshsliceoflemon283 I feel you. Sometimes, when I want to be more detailed, fingers are much easier to use and control. So I use both, stylus and finger. Hahah.
Exactly what I needed to hear. Thanks Brad! Keep it up!
I'm torn on this. I just started doing digital drawing daily a few months ago, using a Wacom Bamboo that I picked up at Goodwill like 5 years ago (and never used). Thing works great. Just recently bought a Samsung S6 Tab (as a 3rd monitor for PC), and man, it's really great being able to look at where I'm drawing, especially since I can use keyboard shortcuts while I'm using the tablet+Krita.
The Bamboo is my go-to since 2012. It's a gem of a product.
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Fools, I'm short, and thus am looking straight on at my tablet.
s a m e
Big facts
I'm six foot and it hurts alot
@@tristanbohemian4648 get a bigger table
*you forgot CHAIR*
Thanks Brad! A really sage advice video. In my 35 year career as a designer/illustrator, my digital input was solely through a Wacom tablet. I had one of the first ones they made and over the years went through 4 more. You get used to the parallax, eye hand coordination issue after just a couple hours. Cintiques (or the Huion Kamvas 22 pro I now have) are cool and all, but they've not been the wow factor I expected over a simple tablet. Your 5 points are right on target. Drawing monitors are a handful of tech and take up a lot of space (not to mention money). I recommend your videos to folks all the time. Thanks for the info and effort.
Thanks Steve, I really appreciate it :)
Same. A lot of other comments are complaining about the hand-eye coordination but my sis and me never had any issues. While she does have a Cintiq now, when I used it, I didn't notice much of a difference tbh. I actually like the texture of my Bamboo tablet more. It's closer to drawing on paper. It's like Brad said, just having a new piece of fancy equipment isn't going to improve your art much.
I got an intuous 4 in 2009 and it still works perfectly today. I've also spent a lot of time using just a mouse. Once you get used to the differences, it's really not a bad option for photo-manipulation type work.
I am a proud owner of a DRAW-A-TRON 8000. After two months of using it, I can definitely tell you all that I became a much better artist. Don't get scared of the price, it is worthed!
Ps. I am in love with the design of the antenna. Delicious!
You're making me saving a lot of money...I'll be keeping using my 2010 wacom bamboo tablet :) Thanks buddy, greetings from italy!
i'm actually using my old 2008 bamboo tablet to work, and it goes just fine. Best buy ever.
Get a Deco Pro (the "Large" model. 130 bucks only), still. Much bigger active area, is so much better in many ways than a Bamboo. You will notice it in your workflow. But no need to get a display tablet for those 400 - 600 euros.
@@alejandroocana3574 Oh wait, I checked, mine is actually a 2009!🤣 but yours wins anyway ☺
@@ChiaraBizzarraGiovanelli it's probably the same big, heavy gray tablet :).
@@alejandroocana3574 Mine is very thin and light, really nice actually 😉
Each to their own. I had been using a non-screen tablet for around 10 years and never got used to the feeling of disconnect. Took me a long time to accept they just weren't for me and I regret not going to a screen tablet sooner. We all have our methods and comforts. I don't think one is better than the other. Just focus on what works best for you, simple as that.
Preference. I feel actually the same way. Coming from traditional to a pen tablet is way too jarring and I honestly feel a screen tablet would work better for me. I have a better time drawing with a stylus on my phone than on my intuos
I completely agree, I've drawn on an intuos for a few months already and sometimes I can't even lineart, I sometimes switch to traditional where its much easier because I can move it around. I'm sometimes thinking of switching to my phone & pen nowadays.
@@Matthew-vq1kv I wouldn't call it preference. As OP says, they 'prefered' to use the non-screen tablet and tried to for a decade and it still ended up being the wrong tool.
Omg i hope this isnt me
My pc struggles when I try to do a very simple cloth simulation in blender, making a 10 minutes work last like an hour... so I'd say tools often don't matter, because good machines could let you do more practice, faster and help you a lot to improve your skills
the machine is a tool. its just not an input device.
I’ve never subscribed so fast. I just got back into drawing and saw this video. Great stuff
Watching this video cause I'm trying to convince myself that the tablet display is not worth. Cause I really want one but can't afford it atm
Same. What did you end up getting?
If you do want a display tablet tho there's great alternatives to Wacom - huion, xp pen, etc. I love them but they're so expensive tbh
@@annapotpot huion H640p
@@conquihare8702 Do the alternatives last long tho?
@@user-fm4dd6sx3i Can't say for sure, but I got a kamvas 16 pro last December and it's still as good as new a full 8-ish months later. I think the cheaper tablet brands are catching up in build and quality (in the case of huion, if not already -- though I haven't tried cintiqs so idk) and mine seems durable enough to last me some decent amount of time as long as I take proper care for it
"Sitting in a chair looking straight ahead." then shows using a laptop where you're looking downward anyway. LOL
It was a stupid point. I don't see the difference between drawing on a screen vs drawing on a piece of paper. The posture is basically the same.
@@Stargaze79 regular paper art/animation is done on drafting tables and theyre usually higher than a regular desk to reduce the lean and angles.
A screen angled at a normal desk still requires you to lean down.
The neck gets this sort of carpal tunnel issue.
Whatever you do, just try to prevent it for as long as possible.
@@Stargaze79 It's typical to have a monitor on a stand on your desk. which means your back is straight and your natural eye level is directly into your monitor. Simple tablets can be used with these, while if a visual tablet is used, you are either sacrificing your back posture or your wrists/arm posture.
@@L3ver right. For example I use old textbooks to lift my monitors.
@@Stargaze79 Agree with the posture aspect....there is no difference...BUT the damage that bright light from the display can play on your eyes after a few years to me is the BIG difference.
Senior Brad, the man!!! Thank you a billion and one!! yoooo.. I just finish you channel, and I think I'm falling in luv!! You have the best 411
I have the Huion H950P for 7 months now and I love it. It's real thin but solid so I feel comfortable slipping it in my packpack. And the pen feels perfect for my hand. Not to mention it's only like 60-70 dollars
i'm sure these tips work for most people but personally my first tablet was an intuos medium and i didn't have a good experience. not seeing where my hand was going made drawing super hard and i never got used to it. and it actually gave me MORE back and neck pains.
my drawings were so much worse in that intuos than in my sketchbook, so it did actually affect the quality of the art.
i had to stop using it and buy a new one, so i wasted my money there.
i saved my money and got a huion gt 191 and drawing there is comfortable and easy. years later i got an ipad 6 and the drawing experience is the best i've had so far.
so my advice would be to listen to these tips but also give it a few tries before buying. the shop i bought my huion in let me go and try it first so i bought it knowing it wasn't going to be like with the intuos.
non-screen tablets are great but they're not for everyone.
What store was it?
@@JentasticArt i don't remember the name but i don't think you'll be able to find it. it was small, more a couple folks selling tablets than an actual store. and also in argentina. but i'm sure you can find something similar wherever you live.
Had the same experience c:
Can i ask why ipad 6 drawing experience is better than huion gt191? I mean, huion has larger screen, so more space to draw. And also you have more freedom with the drawing software, is procreate better than photoshop/clip studio paint/paint tool sai?
@@kaori681 not having to be stuck at my desk allowed me to draw more comfortably and for longer, and made my drawings better. but maybe that's just cause my back is a mess.
and also it just feels more natural? maybe it's the shape of the apple pencil, i don't know.
me who just bought a drawing tablet with a screen: oh ok...
Same 😂
I feel bad for laughing 😂
I wish I had one :(. Welp, any cheap dependable drawing tablet works for me tho.
Omg same xD just bought one
your lucky TwT, I wish I had a drawing tablet
I'm a student and I bought the Wacom One tablet for fun , but I have grown accustomed to making digital notes on it as well as make beautiful reports/assignments
Great !!! Everything I always thought about, wanted to make a video about this but yours is great and also, funny.
Growing up purely drawing on paper, finally getting a screen tablet was life changing. I don't think I'd ever go back to my regular tablet except to maybe play Osu once and awhile. I found using the non-screen tablet frustrating. As I rely on the feeling my pencil makes on paper, to get the lines I want. Having such a huge disconnect from what I was drawing to where my hand was placed, pretty much de-leveled my art skill by 10 years. It's still pretty good if you spend a good year or two practicing with it. But not having 1 to 1 visual information is a HUGE downside.
Fling Gibstopper I had the same exact experience!
I had the exact same experience. It was always like something is hindering me while drawing.
"display tablets are not portable because u have to bring your laptop with you"
other drawing tablets work without laptops?
well, you can take your tablet from your office to your home, a lot of people work with their own tablets in their offices and they go back home with the tablet to continue the work in their home....
Drawing tablets can also work on a mobile device. You can say "just buy a stylus" but I hate the obstruction of my hands on my device lol
most of display tablets need to be connected on a power outlet to function
yes. high-end wacom tablets works as your laptop as well but its extremely expensive
@@pianoaddict772 they do? How? 🤯🤯
This is exactly the video I was looking for.
Thanks man.
I'm still using my Intuos 4 from 2012 🐰 And I have been able to make really great, extremely detailed paintings with this tablet! I came to this video as the obligatory ritual to do before switching to a new device (I'm gonna get the Intuos Pro now, since my current tablet has a very little connectivity problem with the USB cable). For a long time, I thought a Cintiq was the next step, but now, graduated and working, I have get to know many artists who would rather still use these regular tablets specifically because of the neck problem. When you are 15 years old, probably you don't mind, but when you are 30-40, well, it does really matter! And it's really important to take care of one's health sooner than later anyway. So, in case there's someone out there still feeling bad for getting one of these, and not an expensive Cintiq or iPad, keep in mind all you need to make good art is simply a lot, a lot of practice, and a good attitude. These tablets do have a learning curve, but once you get used to it, you have a whole new world of opportunities out there in front of you. Promise, promise, all you need is a lot of desire to achieve the level of artistry you dream of. Good luck out there, can't wait to get my new Intuos! 💞💞💞
So true! I am regreting it now after workig some years with bad posture, my back hurts so bad now just workig a couple of hours, so a good posture really makes the difference!
Reason 7 - You'll appreciate the screen more once you can finally afford it!
Yes true
This! I'll keep on practicing with my old intuos till the day that I can finally afford a screen tablet...
I mean artist 12 is pretty cheap! Pretty good too! I used it at my friend’s house. It was good for me but you know, It’s just my opinion
I have been using my intuos for 6 years since I got it and I hope I can get a screen tablet display on my birthday!
Yep
Me: I got this really good 3000 dollar PC and I’m getting into art!
Someone: oh cool I assume you have a screen tablet? If you spent that much on the PC you can afford the best, right?
Me: *(laughs in mouse)*
Cheap tablet is like $50
bakamono
Woah, cool! I should have made a joke because it’s so cheap!
@@pardydrawsstuff389 ?
@@bakamono2630
Actually there are cheaper drawing tablets for about $35 dollars with great ratings.
@@aisha5156 Yeah, in Malaysia alleys
Honestly the biggest reason for me is that I can look clearly at where I will be drawing and not have a fist covering up any part of it. Once you get over the hand-eye coordination I honestly see it as an advantage.
I know this video is 3 years old now, but I watched it week ago and finally decided for simple One by Wacom tablet.
Hey, people.. This is the best thing ever 😃🤩🤩 Seriously. It's great. And btw I don't have any problems with hand-eye coordination either! So, yeah for poor students as me, I would say.. You don't really need expensive tablet for start. Even a simple pen tablet can do miracles ❤!
For me the screen is a must, I literally transition from paper to a wacom cintique 13 pro and it felt very natural for me.
I wish I had that kind of money
Wow, I'm still using my cintiq from 2009!
CHECKMATE BRAD!
Mines from 2011. Still works perfectly.
@@erin9868 It aint a cintiq but i have a bamboo from wacom that was flung through the room and abused for osu! a lot. It still works as if it was new. Generally if something like hardwire like this dies within 5 years it's honestly either a hardware fault in the production which can be proven and replaced or user error.
If it's still getting the job done, it's fine.
when you watch a video for decide a product and you find a good channel, with good humor and editing.
new sub
i just started to draw animation again. i always draw in paper but thanks to this channel give me information to begin drawing in tablet
When I started dabbling into digital art I thought I was never going to be able to use a simple non-screen tablet. But after months of practice the thing has become second nature. Having a screen would probably make things faster, sure, but I certainly don't consider it a necessity nowadays.
"Does people really work for 50 years???"
This hurt me. This actually hurt me.
Yes, there are people that work for 50 years. There are also people that work until their last day, more than you thing.
And I'll be probably one of those *sobs*
Ikr talk about out of touch
OK boomer
Most people work from 15-65 sorry man
@@nothankyoutube not anymore unfortunately. A lot of people don't get enough for retirement and have to go back to work. Especially since people live longer.
Yeah my moms 63 and still working . Think she started at 14?
Your comments about drawing posture definitely rings true for me, I have recurring neck pain and used to have wrist problems... and when I tried out using display tablets, it seemed to get worse! My physiotherapist said the ideal seating position is to look ahead so your head/shoulders aren't hunched over and arms should be at a 90 degree bend for drawing, and sadly that isn't possible with a display tablet. I do miss the feeling of looking directly at what you're drawing, but getting health conditions from a cool tablet would never be worth it for me 😅
Thanks brad i appreciate this video. I also feel strongly about pain management and practicality idk how to say it other than i relate and appreciate this.
I love to keep good posture and blood flow when working
Tools matter immensely - since I got my iPad I’ve been drawing 100x more (compared to pen and paper) I can do all these crazy technical things, blur, gradient map, clipping mask, etc. etc. it makes a HUGE difference
I think he meant that you don't need too much tools or too expensive one's
Because cheap one's can do the job great too and you just say the difference between drawing on paper and drawing digitally
Drawing digitally is not the same feeling at all, you have less things to think about
And it helps a lot
By tools he meant having a big and expensive screened tablet that is made for drawing only and has like 12 buttons on the side, a tablet works just fine...
Which ipad you brought?
@@cuteminired8067 any that can run procreate
@@novink6620 Procreate is good for sketches or drawings for fun, but I can only recommend Artstudio Pro and Clip Studio. Perhaps both, since CSP lacks layer effects.
The reason is not only that Procreate lacks many important features, but also that it has a pretty bad brush engine, poor anti-aliasing, limited canvas size/low number of layers and very poor transformation tools that quickly turn your drawing into a blurry mess.
@@xelly1299 I personally love Procreate but I agree w/ the blurring if I mess with my work too much (resizing, turning on the bias, etc.). I wish it had vector capabilities, then it would be near perfect for me.
The problem with simple drawing tablet is :
I cant calibrate my eyes and my hand.
I cant draw on something i cant see.
@@stephaniehernandez7209 Omg. That's true and I've never think about that, thank you, haha. This made me really think of my decision.
Gianna T my advice? Play Osu! They are great for calibrating yourself with the coordination.
Same!!!!!! I swear I thought I was the only one who couldn't do that well!
@@NoirLouisStream yeah Osu is actually perfect for building hand eye coordination
「 Phil 」AUTTP I have been replaying them since I got my tablet, now I can draw pretty close to when I use pencil and paper.
This was very helpful Brad.
Educational and *FUN* ! Can't forget fun! Thanks, dude.
I'm just here looking for validation about the fact that I'm not 💲💲 enough to buy a screen tablet 👀👀
Same
same
Same lol😂
Sorry for promoting, im an aspiring digital artist.
I would really appreciate if you guys check my channel. Thanks❤️
Same
Having been doing traditional art for years, the disconnect you feel with the regular non-display tablet is too much to get used to. Getting a Huron Kamas pro 13 when it was on sale for like 200 was one of the best investments I've ever made.
This is the debate in my head all the time. Always want to switch to digital art. Always regret getting a tablet bc I feel so disconnected when I sketch. Painting is kind of okay, but sketching feels so out of control. But I've been scared to put money in a pen display and find out I also dislike it.
@@sennnia Same, every time I draw traditionally I feel demotivated to go back to my drawing tablet to digitize my sketch. And don't get me started on the lineart, I've had to comepletely throw out line art digitally as the lines are never the way I want them. I can't move the digital canvas around the same way I can my sketch pad to get the perfect lines, it's frustrating, as I look at my tradtional art and even stuff I've made on my phone only to see much better quality than I produce with the tablet. I want to try a screen tablet, I believe I can tilt the canvas how I want with my hands that way, but I know I don't have a lot of money to take a risk on one. So I'm stuck in a limbo, do I try to make some tradtional commissions in hopes people will buy then and I can maybe cover the cost of a $200 one. Or do I bite the bullet and keep making art I know isn't as good as what I can do on paper.
@@syares6470 literally in the same boat with the traditional commissions idea
@@sennnia I've been looking at the XP-Pen Artist Pros, they have a new year sale on their official site that ends tonight. I think I want to get one of those, either the Artist 12 Pro or the 13.3 Pro. I'm watching reviews that compare them right now. I can pay $200 if I think it'll last, cause then I can complete digital commisions to make up for the cost.
@@sennnia Hey, I picked up the Artist 13 Pro, got the holiday edition for $215 with a coupon. I think the extra space is worth the $15 as it's closer in size to sketch books I actually use, it comes with an 18 month warranty so if anything goes wrong I can request a new one.
I've always been drawing with pen and paper, this year i made a switch to digital art, and i bought one of Wacom screenless tablets. Didn't really have money for ones with screen nor did i want to try them as i thought i wouldn't like it.
So far, months later i have managed to adjust a lot, but i still find it as hard as i did the first day to actually draw anything from scratch with this tablet. I just look at blank, white screen and i realize i gotta go back to drawing thing on paper and then drawing over it, not being able to see my hand freezes me. And while this has been effective, it's also been bit time consuming and somehow it makes my brain tired as i keep telling myself i spent too much time working like that.
I wanna get one of screen tablets, as i think it'd be easier to adjust, i wanna go back to that feel of drawing like i am on paper, as only in that way i can relax, let my mind wander, and only then i feel content enough to come up with new things.
Gonna try to find one them and buy it eventually.
yup same, i have very bad hand-eye coordination so drawing on a screen less tablet is hard at best and painful at worst (clenching muscles to be more precise, got carpal tunnel because of it) anf honestly i was saved when a friend sent me an Ipad to draw on, even though it's nowhere as good as drawing on a computer it's still more comfortable
Hi brad, i am really looking forward on getting one of those 2 in 1 laptops for drawing and saw this video , now i am reconsidering my options here...
I personally,,,, cant use simple drawing tablets, idk why but my brain cant brain drawing on the tablet and having the line appear on the screen
It's like riding a bicycle
Yes I have the same problem. I did manage to get somewhat competent but I was never as accurate with my lines as I am on paper or a screen tablet.
You do the same thing with a mouse (:
@@MarkusGlesnesyeah but I don't have to continue lines on my mouse... And programs like illustrator/PS have snapping grids
It takes practice and getting used to. Everyone feels like that when they’ve first started
Tools absolutely matter, don’t spread that misconception. However, it’s your preference that matters most. Having owned an Intuos Wacom, and switching to a screen based Huion Kamvas 13, I can absolutely say with certainty that the Ability to see what I’m doing under my brush EXPONENTIALLY increased my quality of life. It probably has something to do with ADHD, but even drawing on paper was more preferable than a screenless tablet.
That being said, screenless wasn’t that bad.
I could have kept using my Intuos, but I just happened to come across enough money to buy a Kamvas.
And let me tell you right now, while I’m enjoying the Kamvas more than the Intuos, it did NOT make me a better artist. I did not pay $250 to suddenly become great at drawing.
Just go with your gut, and never underestimate what you have
My favorite quote was something like “A good sculptor prefers a good chisel, a great sculptor can make any chisel great.”
I got a simple wacom pen tablet and while it’s fun, i have so much better line quality on paper because I don’t have the disconnect between where my pen is and where i look.
My hand eye coordination has always left something to be desired.
I caved and ordered a kamvas too
This is the right response to this video. While he has plenty of experience in his field, Brad misses the point that some types of art do actually benefit from direct screen input w a pen. I’m thinking specifically of animation. Honestly, your work WILL be better with a Cintiq than a Wacom tablet, both in accuracy/quality and productivity. One size does not always fit all.
A great sculptor would have his own set of custom made and beautifully maintained tools though.
@@Shrouded_reaper getting a $30,000 custom made 50x80 inch screen tablet to own the libs
so how has the kamvas been working for you? im looking into buying one but im not too sure.
I was working on an A3-sized digitizing tablet about 25 years ago (for technical drawings in CAD) and it was great.
We had a huge one too (A0 sized) for digitizing maps which had a mouse with a crosshair lens on the front.
Now I'm just buying a smaller one for home for hobby/art.
I am so glad I found your channel, Dr Brad! I won't sue you, but I gotta say.. I bought my first Wacom Intuos 3 maybe 15 years ago, and it still works! Now I am on buying a Wacom Intuos Bluetooth Medium, or the Huion for 100 bucks. Difficult to decide here. Any thought guys?
I will use it 80% to model and sculpt in Zbrush, 3ds Max and Maya. 19% to paint in Photoshop and 1% to watch the news. Cheers
This is why I love your content!! It's good to remind people that it comes down to skill and not tech. I actually love reccomending lower tablets for people for these exact reasons.
I use an ipad and a cintiq, and while i love them, the posture problems suck. I'm actually considering reverting back to my bamboo for a while to see if that helps my back more.
i hope it does help you :)
I’ve saved a lot of $$$ over the years by resisting the unnecessary ‘upgrade’ bandwagon. Money which I instead put into a hydraulic lift work desk so I can shift between sitting & standing to work. Best tool ever. Back & wrists don’t suffer nearly as much.
XP pen sells stands for their tablets, would highly recommend one if you are going to draw on an ipad.
Can I recommend a intruos pro? Mostly for the pen, the slightly thicker pen is way easier on the hand then the bamboo one.
@@MissyMona Thanks for the reccomendation! I don't think I'll need it, I'm already super used to using the apple pencil, so I'm used to thin pens
Fully agree.
After trying both, I sent back the screen tablet and am much
more pleased with a simple, effective drawing tablet.
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Thank you breaking out the Intuos 4 I have a new one never used and I am going to set it up now
I just bought a Wacom One simple drawing tablet and I'm super excited to start playing around with it!
I used to carry my 15” MacBook Pro, my Wacom Cintiq 12”, all the cables and bricks, plus an external drive in a backpack. Ended up being like 20 lbs. I was that guy at the food court designing for Hot Topic brands while my family ran around the mall lighting my credit cards on fire. Good times indeed.
Fast forward to today and my kids are grown and out of the house and I’m chilling on my deck overlooking a forest with just my 12.9” 2020 iPad Pro and Apple Pencil. Total weight: a pound. You gotta start somewhere. And even though I’m fortunate enough to be in business I never stopped drawing and evolving with the tech. Brad’s right about familiarity. Being ten times more efficient is just the icing on the cake. And yes, if you still have a passion for it, your artwork improves as your tools do. Because you experiment more and that alone promotes growth.
BTW my first digital design was on a Mac using MacPaint and a mouse in 1987 in screenprint class after school. It was my name in graffiti with a skull and crossbones in the middle.
"Lighting my credit cards on fire"
That is sooo funny, thanks!
I'm still using my Wacom Graphire 3, after 15 years...
wooh damn
I still use my wacom intuos 3.
@Sr. Boi Olla I actually caved in and bought a new tablet because I realized my super old Wacom has a more square shaped drawing area (because screens back then were more square) whereas my screen now is a much wider rectangle. I tested it out and drawing a 1 inch vertical and 1 inch horizontal line on my tablet resulted in a horizontal line that was almost twice as long as the vertical line on my drawing software!!! it was really screwing up my artwork because the horizontal and vertical axis were so imbalanced!
@Sr. Boi Olla Actually though, if you buy one of the really nice screen/display tablets it acts as its own monitor so it doesn't matter what your actual monitor is because the tablet doesn't work on it, it works on itself. That's what I bought so that in the future even if I want to buy a superwide gaming monitor, it won't affect my ability to use my tablet!
Great video! Loved it a lot. Just want to be creative and have fun! Thank you!!
Me, still using my Bamboo Wacom since 2012 college and until now as a professional freelance illustrator and animator. Still works like day one.
For me, 30 years working and drawing all day, 7 days a week, is my choice. More precise, no latency, no parallax, nothing. All my tablets (3 Wacoms in 30 years) were drawing tablets like this one. And I work on advertising, so I have to be fast. Nothing fast than this ones. Thanks Brad!
Thanks Bard, this is the video I needed to see today. I currently have a Huion 22 Pro, a Cintiq 16 pro, an iPad pro (lot's of "pro" stuff, apparently...) and honestly, I end up coming back to my intuos pro L every time, for all the reasons you mentioned in your video. But also because I create better art when I minimize what gets between it and me.
I have been a professional concept artist for 7+ years, yet of course I have days in which I want to try new hardware, software or brushes, secretly hoping they will make me a better artist. But after spending money I don't have and time I should spend on actual hobbies, I always go back to the intuos and the reliable hard round brush on PS. Because at the end of the day, all that matters is your skill (developed with practice, not $$$) and having a comfortable working environment (and that tends to be the simpler, most minimalist possible for me).
So yeah, I just wanted to reaffirm everything you said. I'm going to bookmark this video so I can watch it every time I forget this (which happens once every 2 weeks or so). My credit card says thank you too.
Bard? Who's Bard? Sorrrryyyy XD
Dude so many tablets, can u share 🤣🤣🤣😭
Muchas gracias, estaba pensando comprar una tableta digitalizadora con pantalla pero me has hecho pensármelo mejor. Muchas gracias
I've used a graphics tablet the other day for the first time, I borrowed it from my bestfriend, I have to admit, it was impossible at first, but the more time I draw with it, the more but very slowly I'm getting used to it, so yeah I'd say just go with whatever you're comfortable with, I'd still stick with a pen display, the Huion Kamvas 12 to be exact coming soon :)
watching brad after ethan becker is like drinking a chocolate milk after a cup of pitch black coffee
😂
4:30 Ok, let's do this...
"Wow! I am still using my Cintiq (12wx) from 2009"
There it is, now you have seen it and I have to write it because it's true :)
wooo
YAS!!
I have my Intuos4 since 2007, works like a charm. Don't jinx it...
tysm, I was sad that all my friends had the newest graphic tablets, and I still couldn't afford a big one. The only once I could afford then was a HUION or the once that were less than 50 $. I was sad , I didn't want t buy it at first, but when I watched ur videos about that cheaper tablets are better, and more of those vids of urs, you made me realize that no matter what kind of tablet you have, the important thing is to give our time and effort to the drawing. Thank you for making me realize that.
I was thinking about trying to get a display tablet so I could have something I could draw on directly, but I never considered the way it would affect my posture. Really good tip. Might just have to get a new, regular tablet because my current one is years old and has lag/delay/stuttering issues with any drawing program I try to use with it.