“Proximity breeds care and distance breeds fear. And because there’s not enough proximity, there’s a lack of care or a lack of empathy and a heightened amount of fear.”
@ Probably not so much as WHO, but WHAT is fostering lack of proximity. The current system of how neighborhoods are policed needs to change in order to foster trust from the community. Back in the early 20th century, cops walked their beat, not casually drive through it in a police cruiser; it’s the latter system that needs to go away and bring back walking the beat. Cities have grown exponentially since the 1930s, so police could drive their cruisers to their beat, aka community, and then rove the neighborhood. Stopping to talk to the people at their level and on their turf will foster the trust that is so absent today.
@@theresareineke6753 The cops that police a given neighborhood should mirror the residents. Black neighborhoods should have Black cops. Ppl tend to care more about what happens to ppl who look like them. It's in our psyches, at this point. It'll take more to change our collective psyches than it would to simply match demographics between cops & patrolled neighborhoods
@@ampollard7041 You could be right, but the other part of my psyche believes mixing will open dialogue in neighborhoods. I would agree that at this point, African Americans have such a distrust of white police that, at least initially, that might be the way to go. Good point, though!
“What do you feel when…” is a brilliant way to start a conversation and get to know someone. You learn a lot more about someone when you ask what do you feel rather than what do you think.
Sir as a black man who is law enforcement and in the military, I salute you for making this video. I personally tried to do something like this with my coworkers because all I want is change and to open peoples minds. So thank you and stay encouraged brother🙏🏾
Do you think things escalate because how people react when stopped like it puts both party’s on edge but the one with the upper hand which is mostly the officer is already in a high risk situation for example back turned to traffic and having to focus on someone they stopped not knowing that person’s intentions or what that person is capable of raises the tension especially when someone is bombarding the officer with I know my rights speech when they were being stopped for a simple traffic infraction
what kind of change? we are talking about a country that has a population of 330 million people. last year something like 10 unaramed black men were shot by the police one of them was trying to run over them with the car some others were actively fighting with the police. the average number of people struck by lightning every year is 270 your are statisitcally many more times likely to be hit by lightning than you are to be "shot while black". there is something like 100 thousand deaths per year that could have been prevented in the medical industry this is far more significant. it is very strange to me that every single endevour carried out by human beings has always carried with it a certain margin of error and has never been perfect no institution we have is close to perfection yet for some reason we demand the police who are just common men to somehow have a greater than a 99.9999999% success rate. because as it stands now the police manage to not kill someone in an arrest 99.9997% or so of the time yet this is seen as somehow not good enough while other sectors of society do far worse.
@@vandythevandy honestly it didn't go as planned I felt things got off subject. Watching this video made me realize things I could've done better. For example having talking points, making it clear and straight to the point what I am trying to get across etc.
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the real question is if you this is in fact true the way they feel yk. they could just be saying this stuff to make themselves look as if they with the minority.
I SAW THE DAILYMAIL'S RELEASE OF THE GEORGE FLOYD COPCAM. THE MEDIA ARE LIERS!!! THE MEDIA HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!!! FLOYD ASKED TO BE ON THE GROUND AND COULDN'T BREATH BEFORE EVEN BEING RESTRAINED. HE SAYS ALL THIS ON CAMERA!!!!!! I THINK AN AMBULANCE WAS EVEN CALLED WELL BEFORE HE DIED BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE A PROTEST WAS IN THE WAY FROM GETTING TO HIM .
as someone from the bay area. petaluma has a reputation. central marin police tasered a man to death. the northern part of the bay area is very passive w racism.
that police officer Nick seemed the most informed, he seems the least uncomfortable, he understood the defund the police movement, and he genuinely seems like he wants to be what a cop is supposed to be. and i respect
He was so cool about it though. His way of thinking about it and absorbing the positive feedback directed straight at him over being put off and deafening himself over the 'anti-cop' rhetoric was admirable and something that a lot of people need to take a lesson from. The cops have a very difficult job... that doesn't absolve any faults of the system nor does it clear bad cops - and there are bad cops - but... it really has to be hard to commit to your duty and tie that duty to your 'self' ... and then have it attacked. It takes a really big person to look past the generalized attacks and take in the appreciation given directly.
I agree I feel like they all gave answers that were genuine and had no malicious intent behind it but Nick I can honestly say i liked his answers the most 🤷🏻♂️ I have a feeling him and I would get along perfectly if he is actually like that in real life and not some act for the cameras hopefully not 🙏
Most cops are like this....personally I'm tryna become a cop after college(minor is in criminal justice), and I recognized how fuck up our criminal justice system is, and I just wish people just respected each other and also showed understanding. If everyone was like this society would be a better place. But I really hope I can create positive change when I become a cop
I SAW THE DAILYMAIL'S RELEASE OF THE GEORGE FLOYD COPCAM. THE MEDIA ARE LIERS!!! THE MEDIA HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!!! FLOYD ASKED TO BE ON THE GROUND AND COULDN'T BREATHE BEFORE EVEN BEING RESTRAINED. HE SAYS ALL THIS ON CAMERA!!!!!! I THINK AN AMBULANCE WAS EVEN CALLED WELL BEFORE HE DIED BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE A PROTEST WAS IN THE WAY FROM GETTING TO HIM .
@@pbjsilverstudio4882 not truth. The south eastern United States has the highest black and brown population in United States and yet that is where the most bigotry happens. Something not right there.
I couldn't agree more but those conversations are only to be one way. No one including Emmanuel are truly having uncomfortable conversations. Proving your narrative by asking white cops from a white town if they had blacks for dinner at their homes is a infantile way to start a conversation. Also, making the claim that excessive force is used in all these situations is inaccurate so the conversations might be uncomfortable but they aren't very objective and they won't make a valid point with real potential solutions.
@@michaelconte2314 You're right. Having an interview with a collection of people all from one town is going to have very different results than had he chosen a few people from different towns all over America. I suppose this interview is not for a complete understanding of what is going on everywhere. Rather just one perspective and hopefully should be viewed as such.
America has them every day...more so then just about every country on the planet by a long shot. ive only been to 13 countries but even in my personal experience I could easily confirm the same.
First, I want to applaud the Petaluma police department for showing up and genuinely sharing their opinions and having the discussion. It shows that you care and that goes a long way in the black community. Just want to offer an opinion to Nick's question about what can the cops do to make black kids have a different opinion of them. Black people need to see you in the community regularly and not just when there is an incident. They need to know your name. They need to feel like you think they are innocent and not guilty when they interact with you. They need to feel like you see them as human beings and not criminals. Then they can see you as human beings and not murderers.
Nail on the head. I'm old enough to remember when policing was the Bobby on the Beat. He WALKED the neighberhood daily, knew people by name, knew who was trouble and who wasn't. There is a distance now, police are NOT part of the community they serve, so when they are called, it's only ever to trouble, so they always react as if its trouble. They need to become people first, cops second, walking and talking to people instead of distance.
Lmao training no white ppl just indulge with blk ppl that simple maybe go play ball with a group of blk and please don't blame blk because from birth we are surrounded around white ppl in all aspects of life
Training? You mean sit down with a black man? I do agree that the police need more training but I don’t think sitting down with a black man is the answer.
@@dallashicks7473 i think the training refers to cultural competence and deescalation training, understanding that black culture and white culture are different, the black experience and white are different, even the suburban experience vs the rural vs urban, rich vs poor, so u need to understand how certain people will perceive you and the appropriate way to approach the situation as a result. And learn ways to de-escalate to reduce tension so the situation doesn’t become dangerous. And even knowing the history, like watching that chicago 7 movie that the officer referred to. Being informed on how we got here could play a major role in improving community relations
They have to be guarded to not say something that could be misinterpreted by the public. I hope that they were able to be more open and vulnerable off camera and it could be an eye opening moment.
I don’t think they were afraid to talk or be honest at all. They seemed like they wanted to be careful with their words and well spoken so individuals can’t pretend to misunderstand them on purpose.
Going from closed-minded to open-minded on a particular subject isn't an instantaneous event. It's a slow process, so you're not going to see it until people reflect on their closed-mindedness from the past.
It's just a loosely strung together list of conspiracy theories and random phrases from the bible. About the only thing I agreed with was praise God. The rest was scary. Like does your family know you haven't been taking your meds?
@@riccardoz2953 Really because many POC have been shot for “resisting”. They didn’t rape, they didn’t shoot, they didn’t do drugs. They just “resisted”
Emmanuel Acho's way of expression is beyond commendable. This guy got his ideas across in an intellectual/respectful manner in a way which I thought was great.
as someone from the bay area. petaluma has a reputation. central marin police tasered a man to death. the northern part of the bay area is very passive w racism. there is barely any poc in petaluma. its a white suburban town w rich tech ceos. Low income is considered to be 110k there. It’s an unrealistic place to choose for this discussion because of the lack of poc.
He made it clear in the beginning that the purpose of the video is a conversation between white police officers and a black man. He can make his video anyway he wants, if you don't like that make your own video.
He did specify uncomfortable conversations with a black man and he (the person of color; I don't know his name) brought up how he saw white officers as police yet black officers as black and he was more.comfortable with black officers. If it was black officers the conversation wouldn't have been at least *as* uncomfortable. This is coming to a middle ground: black man vs police which are seen as the issue a lot or are affected sometimes. I think that's why there was only white people since whatever they could relate on wasn't due to issues of their race. Sorry for the rant but thats what I think happened :)
You know. This is exactly the kind of thing we need more of. Conversations that are held in a respectful way talking about polarizing topics. Thank you for doing this.
The cop in altans ga didnt any thing wrong he was making a arrested and fought them both he grab fase sorry it a weopen they just fire the office no die process and let look see everything no jump in race shit and want to puthim in jail wrong .wrong it a dangerous group antifa is a group dangerous . All live matter nope when defund they were try to hurt cop write murder in wat memoriam wall not true some of these shit meant it
@@susanr1903 all lives do matter.. he pointed out that the black lives matter movement is "black lives matter TOO" as they historically have not mattered. also are you ok? or is English not your first language? im having a hard time understanding your post.
that's why joe rogan's podcast has been so influential. just two people, experts in their respective fields, discussing life, ideas, society, in a super extended one-on-one, calm format. great way to get information compared to the filtered, sensationalized, biased reporting of other forms of media.
What this man is doing for our country on this channel is absolutely priceless... It's impossible to quantify the amount of positive that comes out of good-hearted and well intentioned dialogue. Thank you sir!
If you're going to talk about police brutality you first need a native black man, not an immigrant black man. Second he needs to present data to show the disproportionate rate of black men being killed by police officer. They are downplaying their involvement in killing black men unjustly and the brutality we face.
That's what you want. What BLM wants is for cops to be perfect under high stress, usually split-second moments when the body is pumping full of adrenaline. People can say all the want for years after someone gets shot, but a cop only has a fraction of a second to think and react when something happens. This was not the case for George Floyd, what happened there was 100% the cops' faults, but for the most part cops don't actually kneel on mens' necks.
@@lowcountryadventures5549 we are expecting to not get shot as a black man/women without any reasoning behind it . Then when we protest we are now getting arrested and gassed even though the protests to go to the hairdressers (which included guns) were completely ok and no one was hurt. We don’t expect perfect police or perfect people we expect equal rights and to have freedom to walk/drive in the street without getting shot or arrested for no reason. Go do you ✨research✨ and stop being ignorant.
@@estar5560 Maybe you should do some ✨research✨ before you comment something stupid. To generalize all police into the category of murderers and law-breakers is idiotic and quite ironic really. Riot police don't use gas unless they are being assaulted first or if you don't disperse when they order you to. Police are on edge because officers are getting shot point-blank in the head when on duty, because of objects being thrown at them during these "peaceful" protests, and because nobody will stand with them in the face or rioters that BLM claim don't represent their cause. As I said, hindsight is 20/20. A courtroom can discuss for hours what goes down in a police altercation that only lasted 30 seconds. To jump to the conclusion that a cop is racist for shooting a black man in the back is ignorant af. Cops are only allowed to do that if the person they are chasing is likely to endanger the public. Like, have you ever even been to one of these protests? Have you ever even spoken to a cop? Or did you immediately assume all cops were pigs after what happened to George Floyd?
Should've definitely interviewed the NYPD. The implicit bias and blatant racism is so apparent and it needs to be called out when you're the second-largest police system.
White boy, former country kid, Christian, conservative with blue and green family here ... any race and religion can run up to me for help, my family feels the same and I will firmly believe that myself or my kids cand do the same to anybody different from us. Thank you for the video ... let's do this!
An award for deliberately centering whiteness in a discussion about police brutality against nonwhites? No, he doesn’t deserve an award for this episode.
Are you kidding he still doesn't want to address the problems some blacks have with interactions cops how some blacks bring the problems on to themselves let's talk 2020 not 1960 please
The part where you said you look for black people everywhere you go, YES!! The level of comfort I feel. I live in a predominately white area, & I barely see people that look like me. The very few times I do, Its such a warming experience & we always exchange a short conversation or even a smile. Its an instant connection & it makes me day.
Something that people should recognize is it’s also the opposite. I’ve been in settings where I was the only white person around or there were only a few. It’s hard, you are uncomfortable, they aren’t your people, I get it. But a simple hello, or how are you doing goes a long way for me? I think what we need to do is start recognizing that we are different we aren’t the same. But bridging that gap can happen if we just took the second to say something to some one of the opposite color.
And if you travelled to another planet and on that planet there were aliens going about their daily lives but you saw one human there who was not the same color as you, would you feel relief at seeing them and have the same warm experience?
“They got arrested and charged almost immediately-“. Actually, it did take them a while to press any charges and a lot of the times cops don’t get held accountable so then again that is the problem within how the system works. And the cops who killed Floyd all got bailed out which btw the bail system is another issue. 76% of people in jail have not yet been convicted of a crime but they are in there anyway because they could not PAY their way out. They’ve made bail too excessive and a lot of the times they charge at less fortunate communities which a lot of the times are filled with marginalized groups.
I think it's important to know that we don't see alot of the punishment when it comes to police they have a whole bureau that investigates and doesn't talk about it. My father was a cop and I'll be honest he was a dirty cop not against the public but his own family and no one knew about anything that was happening to him until he was in prison because they don't talk about their punishment
You can’t rush justice. You have to file the correct charges otherwise the act does not meet the elements of the crime they are being charged with. If you are missing a single element, then you can’t charge someone for the specific crime. That is why it is important to be thorough and comb all details before filing charges, otherwise people walk free, whether guilty or innocent.
“To say any life matters is to assert that we thought life didn’t matter.” This guy is so eloquent and concise, it’s like he’s reading from a script. This is an amazing video.
@@awsomekill2, No, you seem to have misunderstood. If you have to say a life matters, then you're implying that the default is that that particular type of life is treated as though it doesn't matter. If you don't have to say it, then the default is that it is treated as though it does. It's like saying (to use an oft used comparison) "my house is on fire". That implies that the default is that my house is not on fire. Or if a flood happens and I say "my house didn't flood", that's implying that most houses did. You're pointing out the exception to the rule.
@@TheRealMeatwad I don’t have a default, so personally that doesn’t mean anything to me, I believe everyone should be treated as equals and respected. I just feel like it’s very alienated thing to say
"That's not a shot at me! That's a shot at the system" yes! Literally, he demonstrates understanding.. not taking it personally, and seeing a broader perspective! Genius show!
Please repent from all of your sins turn to the Lord Jesus Christ. Ask him for forgiveness and mercy he suffered and died on a cross for us he was killed on a Roman torture device for us. Please start living for the Lord Jesus Christ because you are either for the world or for the Lord Jesus Christ. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him should not parish but have eternal life.
I feel like this conversation needs to be had with a group of black officers as well as from people with diff perspectives and experiences from the host. It needs to happen in every community with that communities officers.
I feel the conversation needs to happen one on one with one black male and one white cop. White people segregate themselves from black people then act as though they know them when in fact they have “never” interacted with the average black person. Their opinions are based on stereotypes and bias.
@Maze to confusion You are wrong. Civil rights has always benefited all people. Any benefit obtained in the past has also benefited all women and other ethnic groups. With the exception of gays, their was immediate benefit. Gays were most recently able to benefit from systematic discrimination because of laws that were established after the 60s civil rights movement. “Seeing” more white people is irrelevant to the conversation. The relevant conversation is whites who do not nor have not ever interacted with anyone but whites who think they know anything about other people except what they see on tv.
I’m an officer in Pasadena, CA and would love to attend or participate in a conversation with officers of color. I love what you’re doing with these panels. Such positive outcomes from these types of discussions.
I grew up inner city, a Hispanic, living in an all black neighborhood. I can personally tell you that the opposite is true. Proximity breed fear because you see all the negativity fostered in the area. The lack of regard for human life, even one that looks like you, is astounding and overwhelmingly sad. The fear of getting jumped or having to fight every day of my life was a reality for me. Simply because I looked like a white guy, or because my skin was too light during the summer months. Distance bred care and proximity bred fear. That's why I moved away as soon as I could. I don't want my kids to go through the hardships I had to go through in the community.
@@uranumbnuts Hello! I can see why that phrase means something totally different to you, thank you for sharing that because regardless its a new perspective for me. Everyone can interpret his quote differently like I did and keep in mind he made the original quote his own based on his own experiences. If I may, what I understood from his phrase was proximity AND familiarity. We could be familiar with other cultures and even watched documentaries etc. But it's important to build relationships with people from other cultures as well to be fully immersed and aware of their circumstances. Also, as a latinx person I believe you would agree that we hate it when others stereotype our entire culture and race for the fault of a few.
@Gisselle Barreto I was merely pointing out that the phrase used was incorrect. Even from a psychological standpoint. Ppl, by nature, are sympathetic to others that look like them. One way of breaking that thought process, is nationalism, of which I fully support and fight for. We are a melting pot, not just of cultures, but ideas. We have the potential to build relationships with ppl of different cultures everyday. I'm not opposed to that. As an aside, I am not latinx. I don't condone the use of latinx. I am Latino. And as a Latino, I can absolutely agree that stereotypes exist for a reason. Nothing wrong with stereotypes. They merely describe patterns of groups. Stereotypes is how groups like the FBI catch criminals. Profiles are based in patterns that certain types of ppl follow or create. We can't exactly say that stereotypes are bad for one thing and in the same breath, claim they are good for others.
It felt like you were barely scratching the surface here. I especially appreciated the moments when the officers were asking questions. I think that’s the point where they are going to be most open. I’d also be really curious to hear a conversation with black cops and see what differences there are.
Yeah, it would be great to perhaps have the officers guide the interview to get them to open up even further. And there does need to be a deeper conversation than this but this is a great start.
I had a similar thought. I'd like to see follow-on discussions drilling down into the details. The responses seemed careful, although sincere, but there also seemed to be a lot that was not said. Plus, they had some serious cop faces on - not giving away their thoughts.
Fr I was waiting for the guy to jump in and say no he wasn’t. Like he was literally protected, there were a bunch of cops around his house because he wasn’t arrested immediately and he was at home.
No one is ever immediately arrested and sent to prison for any crime. Jail perhaps but any serious criminal charges get looked at and murder cases can take years. Even on tape.
@@kittenwu8527 well obviously but the point is it even took time for him to be taken to jail, there was a straight up video of him kneeling on the guys neck and the man clearly saying he couldn’t breathe. So I know he wouldn’t be charged and sent to prison but they just let him go and he was probably on paid leave and it took a protest for them to actually arrest him and take him to jail.
@@user-kq2we1ex3h I understand sista, but we have to start with communication, accountability and acknowledgement. The problem with our society is acknowledgment. White people use deflection, strawman tactic to avoid these issues for discussion.
@ Personally I'm all in for us governing ourselves. Buying property away from da cities, starting more and strengthening black banks. Dealing with businesses primarily in our communities and having our own community peace keepers that we can call to assist. Even community funding programs (that our taxes would pay for) to send our children to college and can assist to pay our medical expenses. We gotta stop looking to white people to save us or at least get them out of our day to day lives.
As a black cop, I found this conversation lacking in certain perspectives. Yes, we as cops are human but notice that the host said, and is often true, that black people don't usually see black cops as threats. But what I felt was missing was the black cops who also understand the fear of our kinsmen because we're privy to certain mindsets on this job. I'm sure all of those officers believe themselves good people, but in this setting you wouldn't see any of them be anything but professional. Ask us how some of our coworkers have problematic views when the veneer of professionalism is removed. Anyway, it is good that the conversation was had but maybe make it actually uncomfortable next time.
Well said, that is a very valid perspective. I am very glad that this discussion has been started, a step in the right direction, just more people need to acknowledge the truth of systemic racism.
I think this was good, personally. Not TOO uncomfortable, but not necessarily an easy conversation to be had. Especially when it’s not only being recorded for public viewing, but everyone you work with is right there watching you talk in the moment. They should totally do a second episode with these officers and get deeper in, though. Establish a solid respectful atmosphere first, then delve into something that can make people think deep. Shake things up when everyone’s a little more okay with being shaken. Perhaps if there were fewer people present, it might actually yield more open and personal honesty since most coworkers aren’t present to judge you. Or more group interaction with all the people present in the audience to make it less “all eyes on you” for those in the main chairs!
if a black person sees white cops as threats, but not black cops as threats - thats their own personal, racist mindset coming out. When i get pulled over, i could give a rats ass what race, color, ethnicity, age the cop is - they are all the same to me. those that believe otherwise are ignorant and a large part of the problem.
@@SpeedyCorky I, also, don't care what race/age/ the cop is, because I'm not viewed by the cops as a threat. Every cop that meets me is going to be polite and respectful. If I were a black man between the ages of 16-35 I would REALLY care who was pulling me over.
it sounds almost like he doesn’t rly know what he’s talking about. why is he so obsessed with white and black? it’s all about race when this problem is much more complex than this. the majority of unarmed people make sudden movements towards their waistband or into the car or under the seat. it almost always looks like they’re reaching for a gun, and that results in people reacting. and that reaction is completely fair. to expect a police officer to wait and see whether someone has a gun is completely irrational and impossible. you can’t train that and nobody with a brain would wait to find out. yet everyone expects them to. why?
This was a really interesting and necessary dialogue. I almost feel like it needs to be a series with discussions in different areas. The best cases would be in areas where the police force is majority White, but the areas they service are predominantly POC. The LAPD and NYPD, with very long, complicated history with their communities (and significant budgets) would really be ideal
My ex husband was a police officer and he was the only black officer in his squad. He would have never told the truth about the issues he saw in a talk like this...because for one it is a brotherhood and secondly it is a white brotherhood and that would have been used against him.
Yes! Why? Because it is important to show that "blackness" or "brownness" among the ranks of police does NOT invalidate the charge of systemic racism and white supremacy in the institution. Look at Nigeria. That is a nation of black people protesting police brutality by black people, stemming from colonial British training, which was historically racist.
This was a start. 👏🏾 What i do find lacking is here: - confronting the problems in the system - deeper dive into the accountability thing - responding to “immediate justice with the officers” in the GF case - talking about acknowledging that they often defend the badge more than the issue at hand - not having just the willing and “wokend” officers speak.
I don't have comments for most of that list but the last one. Not having willing officers? how is he supposed to do that? If they aren't willing to talk then don't make them talk.
@@Spooffasa you’re right👌🏾 Maybe some responses out of the audience. Or responses that arent just social desirable. (I ASSUME some of them have such opinions.
I appreciate that he has this series and recognize that they're made to help white people feel more comfortable. Its a nice first step but many of them and this video specifically was pretty light weight. He didn't ask tough questions and these officers are open and recognize to some extent the issue. That helps with the narrative that all cops aren't bad but no questions were asked about holding the bad ones accountable, changing the culture and routing out racism in the system.
It's a legitimate point that white officers may not know how to talk to blacks. Every video I've watched I thought the officers were very respectful and polite, but just got yelled at and/or attacked for it. Maybe that's not the best way to deal with the black community. I certainly don't want officers yelling back or being MORE aggressive ... I can't imagine that's the right solution. But maybe there's another way we just haven't thought of yet.
@@tkfordeful I definitely wouldn't say most other countries are homogeneous. Most of Europe is really intermingled. Latin America is full of different indigenous tribes, afro-latinos, and immigrants. Almost everywhere has a mix of distinct cultures even if they're all considered the same race.
I don't cry. I teared up when Nick was talking about the Women's march and grasping that someone can support policing and also want to shift the status quo to something that works better for everyone.
Eating crow is hard, eating the fallout from someone else's bs is even worse. I feel bad for and I worry deeply about people on the force like him. Most people join to help, and a not insignificant amount join for the power trip and the fantasy. Knowing that your well meaning intentions were warped by pro-police propaganda and you became part of the problem is devastatingly humiliating, to the point you may react involuntarily at first by angrily denying you've been tricked. It's a normal and natural reaction in a situation like this. He's incredibly humble and willing to keep up service while learning. I've met only one other officer like him before, when I was a teenage runaway.
@@mel7906 I don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me lol, but one thing is clear: ALL humans must be held accountable for their mistakes. Being an employee of the government should NOT grant you immunity. Of course I think a majority of police officers have good intentions and are honorable, but all people should be held at the same level.
@@kennathomas8797 OH no no no my bad! I'm sorry for being confusing. I totally agree with you! Then I went on to state my personal feelings and after that, just a little perspective to how or why we're seeing some of the reactions we are from them. None of it was particularly directed at you anyone, but between yours and the other person, It just made me think of all that was all ,//_//,
Communication is key, like in any relationship. Take a knee, there's outrage. Say Black Lives Matter, there's outrage. Defund the Police, there's outrage. Too many times people get outraged without truly understanding what these statements MEAN. We need to stop REACTING to things, and learn to LISTEN FIRST.
There is truth to this, but I submit that the phrase "defund the police" was not well defined in the early days of it being a slogan. There were many people who were defining it exactly to mean "abolish the police". We can listen, but if the message is mixed or vague, then what good is it?
I feel like there wasn’t enough said here. I want to know what is the reason behind use of force/violence when a black person simply asks why are they being pulled over? There was a video I seen where a black guy asked that question and it resulted in his car door being opened (unlawfully) and he was yanked out of his car.
I agree that this video didn’t feel uncomfortable at all because the questions were very soft. But I think it’s great because it shows that there are cops who are listening and understand what’s going on. How do you expect a cop to answer that question? If I’m a cop who has never used excessive force, how could I answer for what another man did? Other than the fact that he should’ve never been a cop due to his biases, power trip, or just straight up racism, there’s really no other reasoning.
@@dreamingbig98 I felt like he wanted to start conversation and didn’t scrolled them. And try to prove them wrong. But him asking questions and showing a black man isn’t is irrational and just here to talk. This is more about knowing opening up communication.
@@dreamingbig98 I feel like they are more understanding now that they are put in front of a camera. But you never know who could be the next cop that kills a black person it’s more about prevention. He’s trying to share his mind set how a black person feels outside of getting pulled over. Maybe that cop will be one with another cop how doesn’t think the same. Knowledge Is so strong. I do agree his comments were soft but it’s a start.
When I was growing up, the cops that would patrol my neighborhood were some of my favorite people ever. They would stop and talk to the kids, teach us about their job, one even gave us their card with their number on it and told us if we ever need help, he'd be there for us. If we can get back to that this country would be a better place.
I can tell you from experience that they're still around, both deputies and fire marshals. It's just they have always been overshadowed by irresponsible practices, quotas, and rampant corruption.
I think that's a bit of a illusion Bobbi. If you look at the history of policing in the United States, it has always had serious problems. If you drop in a white middle-class neighborhood for instance, then your experience police officers would not give an accurate picture of a problem.
@@FirstNameLastnName No, "people" don't do that. Sure many minorities might. But you got the opposite problem as well. most conservatives seem to assume that police violence was always justified. If all people truly believed cops where racist killers, then a lot of them would have been imprisoned whenever they beat up or shoot people. Yet this happens extremely rarely, which instead points to an unrealistically positive view of cops. Unless you assume the jury is rigged by cop lovers. Most likely juries represent an average of the population and in the US they seem to aquite cops for crimes which would have landed them in prison in other countries.
We are still at that. People are being mislead by the media and the sick, racist ideology from liberals and the left. 99% of police offers are good. Look at the statistics. Only 9 black people were killed by a white police officer in 2020. That same year 48 police officers were murdered by black males. Police officers lives are the ones in danger.
This was great to watch. Emmanuel appears to be very comfortable and knows how to have these conversations without seeming like he has chosen a side. He appears very honest, and I think the officers warmed up to him. Very good.
I would love to see a conversation between a black man and black women! About black love, colorism, and societal pressures black women face because of black men! Very insightful video! :)
@Prince Jaren they are the punchlines of your jokes, the caretakers you take advantage of, and the people you deem undesirable because you view them in a negative light, wether that be because of how dark they are, their attitude or the way they dress. black men hold just as much prejudice against black women as anyone else that *isnt* a black women, the only difference is that you come from us. tldr: black men can, they did, and they do. not all, but some.
HE should interview black officers that protect predominantly black communities. The conversation might be more enlightening and honest. Go to the problem cities and do a real interview on the reasons WHY.. Emmanuel.
Unfortunately some of the higher ups are bad as well... and its very unlikely that any cop would stand up and publicly call out a superior, when that would mean effectively ending the police for themselves (getting fired) AND possibly put themselves in danger.
I LOVE this idea of having uncomfortable conversations with those who might have a different perspective. So much more can get done if we all talk about it.
The part where they are talking about how many other white people in the room is so key. I never realized just what it is like for black person to look around a room and only see one or two other people like them until I was taken by a black friend of mine into a bar in the south east Chicago. As soon as I walked in I instantly had made eye contact with the other 3-4 white people. Never felt uncomfortable in while there but it was definitely a feeling of being out of sorts. Completely made me rethink what the experience of my black friends was like for them going to the mostly white liberal arts school we attended. I think more white people need to experience something like what I experienced in order to fully make it click just how different the black experience in America is. (Apologies for the lack of clarity in this comment I speak better than I type)
yes. exactly. it is always the white folks who don't live around, work with , or socialize in predominantly black places that claim racism doesn't exsist.
Its true. Even when considering a restaurant to eat at with the family or a bar to have hang out with friends, me being a person of color takes this into account every time to measure the potential treatment I will receive.
Bullshit. So many times I was the only white guy in a group, drinking and smoking and whatnot. After a while you don't see the color, you see people. IT'S THE MEDIA WHO RUBS THE COLOR OF PEOPLE ON OUR FACES ALL THE TIME. The reason is to distract us from important things and to make us fight each other.
I really appreciated how he explained BLM. That explanation allowed me to see the movement in a different way and while I supported it before, I feel like his perspective furthered what I understand about BLM. Thank you for that.
Please repent from all of your sins turn to the Lord Jesus Christ. Ask him for forgiveness and mercy he suffered and died on a cross for us he was killed on a Roman torture device for us. Please start living for the Lord Jesus Christ because you are either for the world or for the Lord Jesus Christ. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him should not parish but have eternal life.
There is no discussion to be had as police are not racist and they mistreat everyone not just black ppl per they have a slave master mentality and anyone who doesn't fully bend over for them they go into full SM mode... Twice as many white ppl are killed by police than blacks; every year only less than 10 black ppl are killed every year by cops meanwhile THOUSANDS of black ppl are killed every year by other black ppl yet there is absolutely no outcry from blm ppl about this... black ppl, though 13% of the population commit over 50% of crimes and violent crimes... Over 90% of all negative police interactions of blacks is caused by ignorant, wreckless, and overly emotional black ppl exacerbating non situations, thus self-inflicted... Black culture is the problem as it's what feeds the issues... All laws and restrictions to hold black ppl back are and have always been from democrats (party of slavery and racism) yet black ppl overwhelmingly vote dem thus self-inflicted destruction
I'd love to see my tax money going to regularly round tables like this discussion in every community. This is something that should be funded. Talking to each other respectfully, believe that the other person is not your opponent, even if it may seem so at first. Emmanuel, thank you for giving me hope there is still some conversation culture, some will of working together in this country. Don't hesitate to make these conversations longer, much longer. We need them, it has never been boring, I could have watched every episode for hours.
Agree completely with roundtable discussions within communities, and I also agree with your point that these are never boring, I always listen to every word without skipping ahead. Very informative and engaging.
@John Sprague So they either don't have enough people who do public outreach or the wrong ones (meaning not well enough trained in that field, I'm not judging these people personally) or these people don't have enough ressources to be successful. I guess we agree on the fact police and community have to respect and trust each other. It didn't work out in the past shouldn't mean we don't keep trying in the future. But I'm very open for you constructive ideas on how it can be done.
@William Loudermilk First of all I don't expect police officers to do their job for free. They need to find time to discuss in roundtables. We still need officers on the streets, so we either need more police or have to pay them for overtime. Where should the money to pay them come from? Right, it's tax money. In case you don't know: to maintain public rooms of any kind you need money. It may already been spent for rooms in libraries, still it's tax money that is spent. Being unhappy with life in the US should not result in someone pressing a "world-wide" (!) reset button. You may not know, but there are other countries on this planet that wouldn't agree on that solution. "Agree to disagree" is a good way to end arguments on things like "best basketball team", "nicest car", "most beautyful actress", but we are talking about politics. You need to find ways the other side doesn't neccessarily like, but will tolerate. Otherwise it'll be changed every 4 to 8 years. You are making "deals". Both sides were not terribly good at that the last years.
@John Sprague Let me answer your last question first, because it's the most important. We (and I mean all human beings) need more of what Emmanuel created right here: safe spaces where no question is off the table, you are allowed to ask the most stupid question (at least the most stupid for the other person), where you are not judged because you don't already know, where you find people with qualities and characteristics you've never met before. We need good hosts for that. And though I don't like to enforce things, everyone should have to attend a certain number of these meetings to see if it's a good thing or not. If we don't enforce it, too many could be too lazy to participate. Make it a course in school. To your other questions: I'm not that sure we agree on so much. Your approach seems to be to demand somthing or take something away from others, mine is to ask them what I could do differently. I'd say we agree pretty much when it comes to the police side. They become embittered and I understand why. I do understand why they are nervous and tend to be too violent. I've talked to some police officers in all the countries I've travelled to, and the most friendly one was in germany who explained to me he was so relaxed because their training takes about 3 years, they are trained psycholically, in doubt their task is to protect people, isolate the suspect and wait for special ops. And most important, the cop said, is they know they outgun 99.9% of the people with their 9mm. I can understand you are more relaxed and more friendly when you can be pretty sure you may be beaten or spit at, but not shot. I'm not totally against 2nd, but when I'd think I needed an (semi-) automatic rifle to protect my family from my neighbours as soon as they are out of toilet paper, I would just move. When a gun isn't sufficient, either because the attackers are too many or you are a bad shooter so you need more bullets, you're screwed anyway. The constitution was written when you were able to give 2-3 shots in a minute, so I don't think the founder fathers wanted to ensure you are able to kill 20+ people a minute. I know how big the change in mindset would have to be to put a limit to firearms, but I'll explain why. I asked young couples with small children/babies what they needed to protect their children. In the US, most of these couples thought of guns first. In a country like germany, they were talking about safe seats in cars or at the kitchen table. I have to say I'd love to have US parents think of something else than guns first when it comes to "safety" of children. I wouldn't remove CNN, and I still think FOX is more biased, because CNN is criticizing the own side way more often than FOX does. But that's another topic. However, I would agree to the officer of Acho's discussion that an officer is watched much closer as soon as the suspect is a person of color. The problem is: there is a reason why they are watched more closely. I hope we find ways that reason goes away, so no one has to take a closer look to police officers and suspects of colors anymore. Should CNN or whoever not change their behaviour after the reason is gone for some time, we'll talk again. I don't like some messages in some rap songs (don't even like the music, so I don't listen to it and that's why I don't know how many of the songs have good or bad messages), but "stopping" it isn't that easy and I don't like the idea of taking away the freedom to make music I don't like. Living in the "land of the free" the goal shouldn't be to forbid a call for violence, but to make it unwanted, unprofitable and obsolete by teaching everyone to treat each other with respect. As soon as there is no person of color frightened of the police just because the color of their skin I don't see why they should like a song that calls for violence against officers. Until then there could be talks with artists and labels to work together to be more helpful in achieving the common goal, but I think taking away music by law is the wrong way. Especially when we look at the historic context. Slaves only had their music to keep them upright on the fields. Anyway, I believe in collaboration, so I'd like to try that first and ask which steps are needed to make them stop calling for violence in order to make things better for everyone. I don't know what you mean with "increase personal responsibility among black men". Why should there be a difference in personal responsibilty because of the color of ones skin? It seems it's more likely to be killed by law enforcement when you are a suspect and you are black than when you're white. How much more can your responsibility be increased? I never had a black colleague who acted more irresponsible than a white would have done, so maybe I just don't get what you mean. As Emmanuel stated many times, the goal is to treat black and white people equally, but because black people have been treated so differently in the past and until now, there will be a time when we have to double and triple-check if they are treated equally. The two best pictures (to me) Emmanuel has drawn were "the runner who is free to run as fast as the other one, but was held back the first part of the race and is now told his chances are equal" and the explanation of why "black lives matter" is right now more correct than "all lives matter". He explained it with COVID. Certainly we still have to deal with cancer, HIV, all the other things, but right now the problem at hand is COVID. So I'm totally for "all lives matter", but as there has never really been a question that white lives matter, it's time to make sure that "black lives matter". So I hope to be able to switch to "all lives matter" pretty soon, as soon as everybody knows and acts like we all agree on "black lives matter". I don't think parents have to wed, they should just act responsibly and think before having ----- a baby (how explicit am I allowed to be in these comments?) Cut social programs is a two-sided sword. Some may think "i can have a baby, someone will pay", but some will be in need and couldn't foresee it. I don't want them to be encouraged to anything, neither to abortion because they can't afford a child nor to having a child and being unable to pay for it. In that case the baby would have to "pay", and it's never the fault of the newborn. So knowing that we'll pay for some people that acted irresponsible, I don't want to let the mothers or parents and especially babies down that didn't and are in need. We should teach the young people more responsibilty, but we should be realistic and not only say "wait until you're married", but "you should wait until you find the right partner, proof the partner, wait a little, then think about having---- a baby. If you think you can't wait for whatever reason, protect yourself. You have the following options...." We should sue every person who calls for violence no matter what color his skin has, white, yellow, black, red or orange. I really don't like to see how you single out black leaders. No one should be allowed to call for violence, period. Not in the open, not with "secret messages". Everyone should make clear he/she is against violence in all forms. The more important and well known you are, the clearer you should be. School cops? To protect the kids from what? Themselves? Attackers from outside / inside? Let's be honest, the easier it is to harm someone, the more people will be injured whenever something happens. US has tried to be safer by having more guns for decades, when is the time to admit it doesn't work? We need more understanding, not more guns. I like to understand and learn about other people, but it often took me forever to find people willing to talk about (for example) their religion (problems with skin color, with their orientation etc.). I have always been careful if it was okay to ask one more question, I was unsure if I wasn't too "noisy". But it was helpful to understand why they do some things like they do and why they are angry about other things. Why not a new class in school like "tolerance" or "respect". Let people of minorities, people of other religion, other -whatever- talk about their experiences. That way you don't have to be interested in other cultures/religions/people like me and have to look for them and try to talk to them yourself with all the difficulties, but the people who are willing to talk about their religion/ culture... come to you and explain. The kids would learn a lot and hopefully they'd understand each other better, don't fear each other and tolerate each other. I've been to countries where kids asked me if I would allow them to touch me because they wanted to feel how my skin would feel. I allowed and you could see how careful they were, not knowing what to expect. But you could see in their faces that if you have seen something yourself, touched something yourself, talked to someone yourself, you begin to understand it and understand you don't have to fear it. That's what we need. And that's why we need more safe spaces.
Please keep having THIS particular conversation. There needs to be a conversation about good cops protecting bad cops. Until the good cops all stand up and say NO MORE, this will continue. This starts at the union and works its way through all departments.
AMEN!!!!! 10000% spot ON!! & this is what is being omitted in this situation we find ourselves!! The bad apples are polluting the good ones..hence in the eyes of minorities in particular, there's a disdain and distrust of the police!
After finishing the video, I'm realizing cops aren't the problem. They've been scapegoated for the us criminal justice system and the self serving law makers.
@@mateorome yeah there's so much humanity which a lot of them try to bring to the job, but the system hates and does everything not to reward that kind of humanity
In a way. But I was a single mother. My daughter is 20 and has not seen her father since she was 8. Statistically she should have been pregnant, doing drugs and locked up at 15. But she kept her head in the books, in marching band for 6 years, graduated top of her class and now in college. One good parent can be enough.
@@Tiffaloni it’s different you’re a mother she’s a girl u can yea her and help her grow into a beautiful strong independent woman as a boy needs a man needs to see the perspective from a mans point of view but also raised well enough to understand a woman that’s where u come in... not saying either gender cannot contribute to the other but it’s how we a raised by see and learn and hearing over time
@@Tiffaloni I grew up without my dad in most of my life he was there financially but physically he wasn’t, he passed away when I finally tried to get to actually know him , I grew up with my mom she did an amazing job but I needed a father cause now I’m 23 learning how to be a man on my own and seeing and taking example from good men along life.
When talking about defund the police I feel like people take it personally without realizing its not a personal attack. We are not saying take their pay check. We are saying stop using their budget to bail the bad cops out. Use that budget to pay a social worker to come with every cop to help de-escalate situations because they are TRAINED for those specific situations.
*I* am saying take away their paycheck. If they murder somebody like George Floyd or anybody else like that and smile on camera, take their job, take their check, don't have a city settle something, take the money away from the cops directly. Then, put them in jail and blackball them if they get out of jail ever. Period. Defund the police can mean several things, but if nothing else, take away some of these extra pieces of equipment they abuse. They are too militarized, and they misuse or overuse force when it comes to black folks.
@@Iloveswedes I agree, police that enact police brutality should be immediately be fired and stripped of their pension. But shouldn’t we punish the officer, not the department. I mean if he/she just did the action why should the rest suffer. And I believe that if we take money from a department that would affect the quality of officers responding to calls n stuff since we took money away from them that they could have spent to hire competent cops. Plus I don’t really think that police are militarized, in my opinion I think that they’re just modernizing and learning from what happened to them in the past. Their Long guns or AR15s are there because why not? Criminals have them so why should they be outgunned, the main reason why the police have AR15s is because of the North Hollywood bank shootout. Their Kevlar vests are there because they don’t want to get shot at or take a bullet. The armored cars that they have are there because they’re bulletproof since the police don’t like getting shot at.
Emmanuel Acho Please read; 13:37. you made me understand "Black Lives Matter". I'm a white man from the south who had the "all lives matter! GTFOH!" attitude. I have tears right now. i never understood. thank you
but then as a blm supporter you also have to accept the blue lives matter movement. nowadays police officers are often viewed as shit even though the majority are good cops. just think about all the hate they currently experience and have experience in the past. i mean the term acab exist like forever...
@@swisscheese9819 I had to google ACAB. I dont feel this at all. I fully support the enforcement of our laws. I have zero hate for LEOs and i'm a convicted felon, 5 time felon. I know first hand the difference between the good and bad when it comes to cops. i do believe police have a bad hand dealt to them right now because of the whole "a few bad apples" thing going on. however those few bad apples are bad, like really bad. i sympathise with police officers right now, the good ones anyway, because they all dress the same and when you all look alike, well, it's hard to know who is who
I’ve never heard someone explain their feelings about the blue line flag in such a concise and well thought out manner. I completely understand and agree with his feelings on that. Very well put!
Honestly it made me think. Its an uncomfortable conversation but nobody wanted to address his biases either for fear of sounding bad on national television/TH-cam etc. I think both sides have work to do and that comment solidified my opinion on it
@@Samendio thats what im saying. People automatically see black and brown cops as good and white cops as bad, but really as a poc I see all cops as cops until they do something that makes them an asshole or a corrupt cop. Because at the end of the day we're all people regardless of race or color. Most of these guys are just trying to do their job out there and come back home to their families. Its a very few minority that are actually racist and corrupt and it ruins their image as a whole which really sucks and is unfair, but thats the society we live in today
That can be whats so bad with police interactions on both sides. If the cop is more on edge because they are black or the civilian is because the cop is white.
@@coperniki8286 well I see it as just adaptation to the work environment. If the area you're assigned to patrol is a low income minority neighborhood then yeah youre gonna be on edge, anybody who says they aren't is a liar. Thats a gangs home turf most of the time. Being on edge is normal for a cop but when people decide to be difficult and assholes with cops it just pushes their luck white black or brown. A lot of people don't realize there's footage before the incident that escalated the whole incident, usually because the suspect refuses to believe he or she is in the wrong and refuses to comply and have a little decency. Not saying all encounters but thats how a lot involving force go
"When is the last time you had black people over at your house for dinner?" I don't remember the last time I had anyone of any race over at my house for dinner lmao
I’m pretty sure he used that as an opener to get them extremely uncomfortable and thinking. Just to Prep them for the real question. It was also related to the next thing he talked about, the distance between the white and black communities.
As my post said when was the last time this black man had a chinese man over for dinner, or a Russian, he probably hasn't had a white person, or a native American. Makes him pretty racist 😂
You are black excellence. Thank you my brother for taking this to the podium and speaking on things upfront and making it personal so that the police understand our daily struggles with the law enforcement presence can be unsettling.
Black ppl though 13% of the population commit over 50% of all crimes and violence crimes; thus obviously police would be on the alert when in urban areas... police don't interact with ppl unless they are causing issues or if it appears an issue is being caused... over 90% of all negative police interactions is from weak, wreckless, overly emotional ppl exacerbating non situations then they wrongly blame cops for their own stupidity... if you get pulled over for speeding, it's not because you are black it's because you were speeding yet the weak mindset of most black ppl is "it's because I'm black that's why"... racism and self victimization is a Serious problem in the black community sides weakness in general... Until this get addressed things won't look up
Hmm they responded to many of the questions with immediate anger so I mean, that’s something to worry about. Responding to people with anger IS A PROBLEM.
@@o.h.w.6638 Not one answer was angry, some were defensive yeah ofc they were thats what happens in a group discussion. But not one point was there anger and I even say none were immediate, they all took a moment to think before they spoke
Excellent discussion. I give props to all the officers willing to be present and honest. Emmanuel is an excellent host. Making sure that he acknowledges everyone by name. I love how well he explain experiences of Black people and maintains a nonjudgmental stance. This is fire 🔥🔥🔥
this is so much better than the yelling and polarized, sensationalized nonsense you see on major networks. just calm, respectful, logical discussion and a focus on understanding both sides and finding solutions
I'm a police officer and one of my coworkers brought up this video to one of our Sergeants. I chuckled because I honestly expected based upon the title it would be a humorous video. The world needs more discourse like this. I know I started down this path to help people and I sincerely hope we can continue making forward progress. Keep up the great work.
The first questions says it all. "When have you invited a Black person over to eat??" Dude said pre Covid, then actually pre Covid I can't remember, meaning he hasn't! The white officers need to be coming into our Black communities.. Not just because something has happened.. But to TALK. To understand where our pain is. To hear for themselves the daily fear and societal disadvantages we have. Humanising us will allow them to know how to deal with each situation so much better.
I can see where you’re coming from. But that could also go the other way around. Have you ever went up to a cop and said hi how you doing, asking about their daily lives, it requires the both to work together. If a black person avoid the white police than the white police will probably avoid the black person
@@dr.donkey9254 I wrote a whole paper about this for my ap lang class. The thing about it going both ways is that black people don’t speak to police officers because we have constantly been mistreated by them. Who do think was beating us during the Civil Rights movement. A lot of black people don’t feel safe around cops because there is a long history of black people being mistreated by cops and it’s still going on to this day. Most white cops have never been in a black community and a lot of their knowledge on black communities is filled with stereotypes and bias beliefs. As someone who’s father is cop( he is black) I know that white cops don’t even fully interact with black cops half of the time. It is not the black communities job to make cops feel comfortable and safe especially after the long history of torture we have received from cops. It is cops literal job to make us feel safe so that is why come they should be making more of an effort to interact with black communities. You can’t expect the black communities to reach out first when they’ve never been shown respect.
@@noriscaife5669 I’m not saying that anyone should make more of an effort. In order to get along we all have to come out of our shell and that goes with anyone anywhere any race. Let’s say this, if you aren’t willing to talk to cops and the cops aren’t willing to talk to you, it creates a barrier that between the two of you and the rift between y’all will keep getting bigger and bigger, sometimes you just gotta be the bigger person and take that chance
I think part of the problem with his answer is that he was afraid to be honest. He didn't want to appear racist. But realistically speaking, it's not surprising that he wouldn't have invited a black person over to eat in a town that is only 1 % black. It's normal to befriend the people you see in your immediate environment. If most or all of the people around you are of the same race, of course that's who you'd connect with. I respected that the other officer was just honest and comfortable with himself by stating he'd never had a conversation with a group of black people before. It was true that proximity breed familiarity and that in turn allows people to be more understanding and open to one another.
I felt like they held back a lot when it came to the real uncomfortable questions! Im happy that someone is asking the question. Thats the reason why I am pursuing my law enforcement career to internal affairs
Cops are not racist they mistreat everyone; the only difference is white and other races don't act like weak over emotional self victims and cry racism every time a negative interaction happens which is twice as many as black ppl face... give anyone a position of "authority" and they will abuse it; cops have a slave master mentality and use unjust force against anyone who doesn't just bend over for them... black ppl though 13% of the population commit over 50% of crimes and violence crimes thus obviously it makes sense for cops to be more alert to their surroundings when in an urban environment...
Acho, why didn’t you pushback on the officers disingenuous claim of “immediate” action against Chauvin? That is a false narrative and it’s irresponsible for you NOT to correct him on his ambiguity. State sanctioned/sponsored militia have more than enough protection and they don’t need you to provide more. Hegemonic neutrality isn’t needed here. You have the privilege of this platform and unfortunately, whether you want it or not, it’s your responsibility to conduct and frame this interview from the standpoint of the collective live experience as a marginalized person. You are committing a disservice to the Black community specifically and the POC community at large by not challenging such an ambiguous statement/claim of immediate action. If this was purely an oversight on your part, I sincerely hope you can recognize when you’re in a similar situation in the future and act/respond appropriately... unless you agree that being arrested 88 hours AFTER committing murder which was filmed/televised for world consumption, would qualify as immediate.
Disarming both verbally and physically by training in Jiu Jitsu to at least the level of a purple belt. One of many excellent ideas I've Andrew Yang talk about (among other people).
@@FalconProductions_ you’re speaking of one incident that also was violent prior to a skateboard. The truth is a lot of these peaceful protests have been met with violence and laughter from the police. But the dialogue in the video is both intriguing and eye opening. A lot of things need to be discussed and fixed. It’s going to take more than 20 minutes to cover all topics.
@@ghosoonrassam8582 we cannot take the actions of a few and condemn them all. If it’s done “on the other side” for the majority of the time they’re stopped by those on their side. For example in my are we had several protests all but one city were peaceful. The protestors stopped people from taken things to violence, and in those cities the officers even stopped racist whites from carrying out violence. We had cops handing out pizza to protestors, cops taking a knee with protestors, cops marching with protestors. So what was different in the one city that had violence? The cops came out in military gear laughing at and provoking the protestors. They started throwing gas at them unwarranted, taunting them. Allowing the blue lives matter crowd to throw fireworks at the black lives matter crowd. It was a shit show because of the lack of care from the police in that city.
This talk "IS" needed all over the USA. As a black woman and as a Black mother, can we or can you talk this talk NATIONALLY. My son's have not had to deal with police officers in their life. My daughter's have always had good experience ( knock on wood). I'm not agaisnt police officers at all however, I AM a black mother and I feel what other mothers feel when they lose a child. Yes, I have lost a child to gun violence. The police were angels to me. They took care of her killer and I'm grateful. But I do not agree with Serial Killers. There's a difference. Police Officers like Officer Tommy in AK? I think is is fine example. When I was younger, I remember when a "Officer Friendly" came to my classroom as a child. That was back in 78. Do those types of community outreaches again. Allow the police officers know who thier community.
Maybe raise your kids right so they don’t break the law and if they do have a run in with the police just comply with and settle in court. You will never win on the street it always hurts you even more no matter what!
I remember when a cop came to my class in like 4th grade. I remember he was weird as hell. Also as an adult I realize everything he said was bald face lies.
@@tash6638 Well not everyone who is killed by a police officer is breaking the law. And even then, that doesn't make murder right. Edit: and if the police system is corrupt, what makes you think the court is any better, cause trust me, it isn't.
Amen!! 🙏🏽 I'm not a mother yet, but I am a black woman who has experienced racism from cops in a state that's predominantly democrats. He needs to take this conversation nationally. Ask and people who are willing to accept a conversation with him are those who are obviously willing to listen and change if necessary. This gave me anxiety and also helped calm me down because lots of assumptions floating around, but it's easier to work when all the cards are laid on the table. Actions speak louder than words though, so I'll still pay attention to what they do versus what they say.
I found it interesting that the officer observed that every police brutality incident in the media would bring disfavor to police officers as a whole. It's the same feeling Black people have when another Black person gets in trouble for an offense. We feel like every officer is going to respond harsher to us as a whole because of that person's crime. We do need to see people as individuals.
I have seen this common observation made by both sides and the advice to each side is don't be that guy to the other. Work hard to overcome that possible perception. Cops approach every car with awareness that this could be the last stop that they make and some are more nervous about it than others. I know that some black people feel similarly. The lore of each group is a strong bias to overcome as is Stranger Danger and for some, once bitten twice shy.
@John Sprague Also, when Emmanuel talked about "The Police Talk" when he was growing up, I don't think he realizes that pretty much everyone has had that talk or something similar from their parent or guardian in their life.
@@nunyabailey The police didn't become a widespread thing until 1865 when black people were finally and officially freed from slavery. They needed a way to make slave labor legal. The 14th amendment allows a loophole which states that an incarcerated person can be used for slave labor. Many states in the South created laws specifically targeting black people. They even had these types of laws made throughout the country. Later on, through segregation, war on drugs (planted in the black community), and police killing black people at a rate 2.5 times higher than white people currently, systematic problems remain. When you have a privatized institution built on the principle of incarcerating black people to maintain slave labor and a white race, there's bound to be a systematic bias against black people.
I think what I appreciate the most is that this was the purest form of discussion. There was no "well no, you're wrong". It was simply everybody gives their opinion or answer to the question and was only pushed back when they asked to be pushed back. This is an amazing video, thank you for this Emmanuel!
I don't like that they said "all it takes is one George Floyd situation." As if that was an isolated incident. George Floyd wasn't the first. Hell he wasn't even the last. I just don't want them to think everything was all good until that one situation. Because it wasn't.
That’s not what they were trying to say what they meant was that no matter how much good there is all it takes is one bad incident to destroy all the good that has been done
EXACTLY. i went into this video expecting some seriously uncomfortable content and what i got was the same soft-bellied stuff you see everywhere. the part that really got me was towards the end when it was said that cops should seek to establish trust with their communities on a personal level. thats a cute notion but it cannot work in the real world because this work done to establish "trust" is only used to bury the cruelties of the police, and how every level of our "justice" system not only allows, but encourages state-sanctioned violence. you can't have a white cop show up and play basketball with the black youth and think it'll change the racial tension here, or make any black kid less afraid of cops. it'll make the kid less afraid of one cop, or a couple of them, but it completely ignores that the whole damn system is rotten. police have literally shown up to protests and taken protestors into unmarked vans and kidnapped them. this is not something a game of interracial basketball can fix. this whole video did not ask the right questions
@@timucinkose6918 We understand what they’re saying..... we’re just saying the whole premised is wrong. The whole criminal justice system has systemically harmed black and brown people. It was never a handful of bad incidents. Damn near every regular schmegular black boy I know was stopped and frisked more than once back when it was legal. Our everyday bad experiences with police (and the CJ system) has cause the African American community and the police to NEVER have a good relationship. This is old news. There was literally no point in time in history where black people and cops got along. This is just the chickens coming home to roost.
i am literally so glad this man is doing this omg hes changing the world for the better thank you so much please continue and i hope god blesses you so much like you deserve !!
Proximity = distance, they are the same thing, closeness is a distance, distance is the measure of space between things, proximity close or far is a distance between things.
@@crazyfakar1 you must not have understood the context of what Acho said when HE talked about the proximity/distance. Yeah, they are the same thing, but you’d have to be an idiot not to understand what he meant when he said it. You should watch the video instead of trolling the comment section. But thanks for the vapid take.
We need more of this. People avoid uncomfortable conversations bc they can't do so respectfully. The officers here were candid and I respect that they asked how to better police and connect with the black community. Also the fact that for the majority they realized defund the police wasn't an attack on them. It was a call for help for them. The radicals changed the narrative but these officers understood.
“Proximity breeds care and distance breeds fear. And because there’s not enough proximity, there’s a lack of care or a lack of empathy and a heightened amount of fear.”
This should be painted everywhere
@ Probably not so much as WHO, but WHAT is fostering lack of proximity. The current system of how neighborhoods are policed needs to change in order to foster trust from the community. Back in the early 20th century, cops walked their beat, not casually drive through it in a police cruiser; it’s the latter system that needs to go away and bring back walking the beat. Cities have grown exponentially since the 1930s, so police could drive their cruisers to their beat, aka community, and then rove the neighborhood. Stopping to talk to the people at their level and on their turf will foster the trust that is so absent today.
@@theresareineke6753 The cops that police a given neighborhood should mirror the residents. Black neighborhoods should have Black cops. Ppl tend to care more about what happens to ppl who look like them. It's in our psyches, at this point. It'll take more to change our collective psyches than it would to simply match demographics between cops & patrolled neighborhoods
@@ampollard7041 You could be right, but the other part of my psyche believes mixing will open dialogue in neighborhoods. I would agree that at this point, African Americans have such a distrust of white police that, at least initially, that might be the way to go. Good point, though!
@@theresareineke6753 Mixing has done nothing for Our betterment since integration became legal. We were much better off in our Tulsa, OK & the likes.
A panel of all black cops would be interesting, it has to be an interesting time to wear a uniform.
Yes! I want an episode with BIPOC and POC law enforcement.
DEAD ASS!!!
Really cuz they’re getting a bunch of hate too. No slack.
That would be very interesting as they have a unique perspective on the issue
That’s a great idea:-)
“an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure” beautifully said, my god
Yes, Ben Franklin 1736
It depends what you do to prevent it.
@@markthomas8610 what do you mean
@@markthomas8610 in this case what you’re saying makes no sense
You do realize he didn’t come up with that right?
“What do you feel when…” is a brilliant way to start a conversation and get to know someone. You learn a lot more about someone when you ask what do you feel rather than what do you think.
This discussion is a brilliant idea, we need alot more discussions like this on tv seen by as many people as possible
What is wrong with you too? Did you just come from 40 years ago? As much as it works on TV we’re all kind of expecting that at this point.
Sir as a black man who is law enforcement and in the military, I salute you for making this video. I personally tried to do something like this with my coworkers because all I want is change and to open peoples minds. So thank you and stay encouraged brother🙏🏾
Do you think things escalate because how people react when stopped like it puts both party’s on edge but the one with the upper hand which is mostly the officer is already in a high risk situation for example back turned to traffic and having to focus on someone they stopped not knowing that person’s intentions or what that person is capable of raises the tension especially when someone is bombarding the officer with I know my rights speech when they were being stopped for a simple traffic infraction
How did it go when you tried to do something like this with your coworkers?
what kind of change? we are talking about a country that has a population of 330 million people. last year something like 10 unaramed black men were shot by the police one of them was trying to run over them with the car some others were actively fighting with the police. the average number of people struck by lightning every year is 270 your are statisitcally many more times likely to be hit by lightning than you are to be "shot while black". there is something like 100 thousand deaths per year that could have been prevented in the medical industry this is far more significant. it is very strange to me that every single endevour carried out by human beings has always carried with it a certain margin of error and has never been perfect no institution we have is close to perfection yet for some reason we demand the police who are just common men to somehow have a greater than a 99.9999999% success rate. because as it stands now the police manage to not kill someone in an arrest 99.9997% or so of the time yet this is seen as somehow not good enough while other sectors of society do far worse.
@@vandythevandy honestly it didn't go as planned I felt things got off subject. Watching this video made me realize things I could've done better. For example having talking points, making it clear and straight to the point what I am trying to get across etc.
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The fact this dialogue happened speaks volume, respect to everyone in the room that showed up.
the real question is if you this is in fact true the way they feel yk. they could just be saying this stuff to make themselves look as if they with the minority.
God bless, Jesus loves you and died for you all
I SAW THE DAILYMAIL'S RELEASE OF THE GEORGE FLOYD COPCAM. THE MEDIA ARE LIERS!!! THE MEDIA HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!!! FLOYD ASKED TO BE ON THE GROUND AND COULDN'T BREATH BEFORE EVEN BEING RESTRAINED. HE SAYS ALL THIS ON CAMERA!!!!!! I THINK AN AMBULANCE WAS EVEN CALLED WELL BEFORE HE DIED BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE A PROTEST WAS IN THE WAY FROM GETTING TO HIM
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as someone from the bay area. petaluma has a reputation. central marin police tasered a man to death. the northern part of the bay area is very passive w racism.
@@calvinthestormfreak My question is if he asked to be on the floor and was in handcuffs why was it necessary to kneel on his neck?
that police officer Nick seemed the most informed, he seems the least uncomfortable, he understood the defund the police movement, and he genuinely seems like he wants to be what a cop is supposed to be. and i respect
He was so cool about it though. His way of thinking about it and absorbing the positive feedback directed straight at him over being put off and deafening himself over the 'anti-cop' rhetoric was admirable and something that a lot of people need to take a lesson from. The cops have a very difficult job... that doesn't absolve any faults of the system nor does it clear bad cops - and there are bad cops - but... it really has to be hard to commit to your duty and tie that duty to your 'self' ... and then have it attacked. It takes a really big person to look past the generalized attacks and take in the appreciation given directly.
I agree I feel like they all gave answers that were genuine and had no malicious intent behind it but Nick I can honestly say i liked his answers the most 🤷🏻♂️ I have a feeling him and I would get along perfectly if he is actually like that in real life and not some act for the cameras hopefully not 🙏
EXACTLY
Most cops are like this....personally I'm tryna become a cop after college(minor is in criminal justice), and I recognized how fuck up our criminal justice system is, and I just wish people just respected each other and also showed understanding. If everyone was like this society would be a better place. But I really hope I can create positive change when I become a cop
I SAW THE DAILYMAIL'S RELEASE OF THE GEORGE FLOYD COPCAM. THE MEDIA ARE LIERS!!! THE MEDIA HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!!! FLOYD ASKED TO BE ON THE GROUND AND COULDN'T BREATHE BEFORE EVEN BEING RESTRAINED. HE SAYS ALL THIS ON CAMERA!!!!!! I THINK AN AMBULANCE WAS EVEN CALLED WELL BEFORE HE DIED BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE A PROTEST WAS IN THE WAY FROM GETTING TO HIM
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"Proximity breeds care. Distance breeds fear." Right on! Brilliant.
The deep south of the USA were the highest concentration of Black people live: *_nervous sweating_*
Yeah… no.
TRUTH!!!!!!!!
@@pbjsilverstudio4882 not truth. The south eastern United States has the highest black and brown population in United States and yet that is where the most bigotry happens.
Something not right there.
Uncomfortable conversations are exactly what America needs.
I couldn't agree more but those conversations are only to be one way. No one including Emmanuel are truly having uncomfortable conversations. Proving your narrative by asking white cops from a white town if they had blacks for dinner at their homes is a infantile way to start a conversation. Also, making the claim that excessive force is used in all these situations is inaccurate so the conversations might be uncomfortable but they aren't very objective and they won't make a valid point with real potential solutions.
@@michaelconte2314 You're right. Having an interview with a collection of people all from one town is going to have very different results than had he chosen a few people from different towns all over America. I suppose this interview is not for a complete understanding of what is going on everywhere. Rather just one perspective and hopefully should be viewed as such.
America has them every day...more so then just about every country on the planet by a long shot. ive only been to 13 countries but even in my personal experience I could easily confirm the same.
@@jhartigan82 That's good to hear.
Not like anyone remembers the ones they have. This includes me.
First, I want to applaud the Petaluma police department for showing up and genuinely sharing their opinions and having the discussion. It shows that you care and that goes a long way in the black community. Just want to offer an opinion to Nick's question about what can the cops do to make black kids have a different opinion of them. Black people need to see you in the community regularly and not just when there is an incident. They need to know your name. They need to feel like you think they are innocent and not guilty when they interact with you. They need to feel like you see them as human beings and not criminals. Then they can see you as human beings and not murderers.
THIS ✨
This!
Nail on the head. I'm old enough to remember when policing was the Bobby on the Beat. He WALKED the neighberhood daily, knew people by name, knew who was trouble and who wasn't. There is a distance now, police are NOT part of the community they serve, so when they are called, it's only ever to trouble, so they always react as if its trouble. They need to become people first, cops second, walking and talking to people instead of distance.
A. Men. 👏👏👏
This! 🌟 💫
This is the type of training our cops needed but so many never got.
not even so many, none. no police got this training.
Lmao training no white ppl just indulge with blk ppl that simple maybe go play ball with a group of blk and please don't blame blk because from birth we are surrounded around white ppl in all aspects of life
Training? You mean sit down with a black man? I do agree that the police need more training but I don’t think sitting down with a black man is the answer.
@@dallashicks7473 i think the training refers to cultural competence and deescalation training, understanding that black culture and white culture are different, the black experience and white are different, even the suburban experience vs the rural vs urban, rich vs poor, so u need to understand how certain people will perceive you and the appropriate way to approach the situation as a result. And learn ways to de-escalate to reduce tension so the situation doesn’t become dangerous. And even knowing the history, like watching that chicago 7 movie that the officer referred to. Being informed on how we got here could play a major role in improving community relations
@@Wwetitanfan27 I don’t see how learning the culture would help but ok
"It's not a shot at me, it's a shot at the system" THANK YOU FOR REALIZING THAT!
I think the cops were afraid to talk and be honest. They seem to be trying. At least they showed up.
they do have a camera in their face ;)
That's why it's called uncomfortable conversations with a black man
i mean to be fair.. even if they were telling the truth and were honest. would people stop to believe them? probably not with everything going on.
They have to be guarded to not say something that could be misinterpreted by the public. I hope that they were able to be more open and vulnerable off camera and it could be an eye opening moment.
I don’t think they were afraid to talk or be honest at all. They seemed like they wanted to be careful with their words and well spoken so individuals can’t pretend to misunderstand them on purpose.
The worst part about this is, the people who need to watch this with an open mind, won't ever see it.
Going from closed-minded to open-minded on a particular subject isn't an instantaneous event. It's a slow process, so you're not going to see it until people reflect on their closed-mindedness from the past.
@@davidpadilla1354 that may have been the wildest thing I've ever heard in my life
@@davidpadilla1354 First United Crystal Methodist church, eh buddy?
It's just a loosely strung together list of conspiracy theories and random phrases from the bible. About the only thing I agreed with was praise God. The rest was scary. Like does your family know you haven't been taking your meds?
I reported the comment, hopefully that garbage stays gone
“if we could do a better job of disarming, then we wouldn’t have to worry about discharging,” powerful words
Fax fax
start to don't robber, rape and\or act as an idiot and your chance to be shooted will decrease alot. regardless of the skin color
@@riccardoz2953 your english was almost ineligible but yes i agree. Haha dont act like a criminal
@@riccardoz2953 Really because many POC have been shot for “resisting”. They didn’t rape, they didn’t shoot, they didn’t do drugs. They just “resisted”
@@riccardoz2953 Did George Floyd rob someone, did Breona Taylor rape someone?
Emmanuel Acho's way of expression is beyond commendable. This guy got his ideas across in an intellectual/respectful manner in a way which I thought was great.
Black police officers shouldve DEFINITELY BEEN INVITED INTO THIS DISCUSSION.
as someone from the bay area. petaluma has a reputation. central marin police tasered a man to death. the northern part of the bay area is very passive w racism.
there is barely any poc in petaluma. its a white suburban town w rich tech ceos. Low income is considered to be 110k there. It’s an unrealistic place to choose for this discussion because of the lack of poc.
Yes.
He made it clear in the beginning that the purpose of the video is a conversation between white police officers and a black man. He can make his video anyway he wants, if you don't like that make your own video.
I don't think so, so many layers there, that needs to be a whole separate conversation.
He did specify uncomfortable conversations with a black man and he (the person of color; I don't know his name) brought up how he saw white officers as police yet black officers as black and he was more.comfortable with black officers. If it was black officers the conversation wouldn't have been at least *as* uncomfortable. This is coming to a middle ground: black man vs police which are seen as the issue a lot or are affected sometimes. I think that's why there was only white people since whatever they could relate on wasn't due to issues of their race. Sorry for the rant but thats what I think happened :)
You know. This is exactly the kind of thing we need more of. Conversations that are held in a respectful way talking about polarizing topics. Thank you for doing this.
The cop in altans ga didnt any thing wrong he was making a arrested and fought them both he grab fase sorry it a weopen they just fire the office no die process and let look see everything no jump in race shit and want to puthim in jail wrong .wrong it a dangerous group antifa is a group dangerous . All live matter nope when defund they were try to hurt cop write murder in wat memoriam wall not true some of these shit meant it
@@susanr1903 all lives do matter.. he pointed out that the black lives matter movement is "black lives matter TOO" as they historically have not mattered. also are you ok? or is English not your first language? im having a hard time understanding your post.
@@susanr1903 Please go back and just redo the whole paragraph please , you have so many errors that I do not understand what you're saying.
that's why joe rogan's podcast has been so influential. just two people, experts in their respective fields, discussing life, ideas, society, in a super extended one-on-one, calm format. great way to get information compared to the filtered, sensationalized, biased reporting of other forms of media.
Sure. A black man baiting white cops who are not in shape. Need more of this!
Nick is the most educated officer in the room no doubt about it
absolutely
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yeah i like him
That’s what I was gonna say
Forsure I thought I was the only one that peeped!
What this man is doing for our country on this channel is absolutely priceless... It's impossible to quantify the amount of positive that comes out of good-hearted and well intentioned dialogue.
Thank you sir!
Thank you for having these difficult conversations so that we can all bridge a small gap in understanding each other.
If you're going to talk about police brutality you first need a native black man, not an immigrant black man. Second he needs to present data to show the disproportionate rate of black men being killed by police officer. They are downplaying their involvement in killing black men unjustly and the brutality we face.
@@quinten4214 great points.
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We don’t expect them to be perfect. We expect them to be fair and just.
well thats clearly not what BLM wants...
That's what you want. What BLM wants is for cops to be perfect under high stress, usually split-second moments when the body is pumping full of adrenaline. People can say all the want for years after someone gets shot, but a cop only has a fraction of a second to think and react when something happens. This was not the case for George Floyd, what happened there was 100% the cops' faults, but for the most part cops don't actually kneel on mens' necks.
@@lowcountryadventures5549 we are expecting to not get shot as a black man/women without any reasoning behind it .
Then when we protest we are now getting arrested and gassed even though the protests to go to the hairdressers (which included guns) were completely ok and no one was hurt.
We don’t expect perfect police or perfect people we expect equal rights and to have freedom to walk/drive in the street without getting shot or arrested for no reason.
Go do you ✨research✨ and stop being ignorant.
@@estar5560 Maybe you should do some ✨research✨ before you comment something stupid. To generalize all police into the category of murderers and law-breakers is idiotic and quite ironic really. Riot police don't use gas unless they are being assaulted first or if you don't disperse when they order you to. Police are on edge because officers are getting shot point-blank in the head when on duty, because of objects being thrown at them during these "peaceful" protests, and because nobody will stand with them in the face or rioters that BLM claim don't represent their cause.
As I said, hindsight is 20/20. A courtroom can discuss for hours what goes down in a police altercation that only lasted 30 seconds. To jump to the conclusion that a cop is racist for shooting a black man in the back is ignorant af. Cops are only allowed to do that if the person they are chasing is likely to endanger the public.
Like, have you ever even been to one of these protests? Have you ever even spoken to a cop? Or did you immediately assume all cops were pigs after what happened to George Floyd?
@@lowcountryadventures5549 literally ask any blm supporter and they’ll say what she said
Should've definitely interviewed the NYPD. The implicit bias and blatant racism is so apparent and it needs to be called out when you're the second-largest police system.
EXACTLY
You said exactly what I was thinking. The police in NYC and NY state as a whole is something else💯
RIGHT
Not you speaking the truth!!
its the most diverse police department, maybe people are the issue not the cops.
White boy, former country kid, Christian, conservative with blue and green family here ... any race and religion can run up to me for help, my family feels the same and I will firmly believe that myself or my kids cand do the same to anybody different from us. Thank you for the video ... let's do this!
This dude should get an award for doing gutsy work like this.
How is this gutsy? Award for like trying to have conversation maybe alittle but gutsy how?
@@Spooffasa Because he's trying to overcome the rampant fear and hatred in this country.
He's getting paid , that's enough
An award for deliberately centering whiteness in a discussion about police brutality against nonwhites? No, he doesn’t deserve an award for this episode.
Are you kidding he still doesn't want to address the problems some blacks have with interactions cops how some blacks bring the problems on to themselves let's talk 2020 not 1960 please
The part where you said you look for black people everywhere you go, YES!! The level of comfort I feel. I live in a predominately white area, & I barely see people that look like me. The very few times I do, Its such a warming experience & we always exchange a short conversation or even a smile. Its an instant connection & it makes me day.
I feel the exact same way except I'm not always comforted bc some black ppl act "funny" towards other black ppl😞
Something that people should recognize is it’s also the opposite. I’ve been in settings where I was the only white person around or there were only a few. It’s hard, you are uncomfortable, they aren’t your people, I get it. But a simple hello, or how are you doing goes a long way for me? I think what we need to do is start recognizing that we are different we aren’t the same. But bridging that gap can happen if we just took the second to say something to some one of the opposite color.
Ahhh! I wish I could honestly tell the black person walking into the room or place that I would stick up for them if they needed me too!
I just look for POC in general if I don’t find them I get SO tense
And if you travelled to another planet and on that planet there were aliens going about their daily lives but you saw one human there who was not the same color as you, would you feel relief at seeing them and have the same warm experience?
“They got arrested and charged almost immediately-“. Actually, it did take them a while to press any charges and a lot of the times cops don’t get held accountable so then again that is the problem within how the system works. And the cops who killed Floyd all got bailed out which btw the bail system is another issue. 76% of people in jail have not yet been convicted of a crime but they are in there anyway because they could not PAY their way out. They’ve made bail too excessive and a lot of the times they charge at less fortunate communities which a lot of the times are filled with marginalized groups.
Swedish Fish when he said that I was like um sir have u not read anything about the case 🤦♀️
I think it's important to know that we don't see alot of the punishment when it comes to police they have a whole bureau that investigates and doesn't talk about it. My father was a cop and I'll be honest he was a dirty cop not against the public but his own family and no one knew about anything that was happening to him until he was in prison because they don't talk about their punishment
You can’t rush justice. You have to file the correct charges otherwise the act does not meet the elements of the crime they are being charged with. If you are missing a single element, then you can’t charge someone for the specific crime. That is why it is important to be thorough and comb all details before filing charges, otherwise people walk free, whether guilty or innocent.
George Floyd was a drug addict who tried to use fake money and got caught. Stop glorifying criminals and start following true heroes like MLK
@@wintersun264 Do you even watch Emmanuel’s videos? Or are you here to hate?
Thank you all so much for your bravery. Thank you for representing our culture. ✊🏿✊🏽✊🏾
“To say any life matters is to assert that we thought life didn’t matter.” This guy is so eloquent and concise, it’s like he’s reading from a script. This is an amazing video.
Wait I don’t understand pls explain :’)
@@amyliu7065 it’s like they’re saying a specific life matter means that the others life don’t matter
@@awsomekill2, No, you seem to have misunderstood. If you have to say a life matters, then you're implying that the default is that that particular type of life is treated as though it doesn't matter. If you don't have to say it, then the default is that it is treated as though it does.
It's like saying (to use an oft used comparison) "my house is on fire". That implies that the default is that my house is not on fire. Or if a flood happens and I say "my house didn't flood", that's implying that most houses did. You're pointing out the exception to the rule.
@@amyliu7065, please see my response to Cynical. Hopefully that helps with your understanding.
@@TheRealMeatwad I don’t have a default, so personally that doesn’t mean anything to me, I believe everyone should be treated as equals and respected. I just feel like it’s very alienated thing to say
"That's not a shot at me! That's a shot at the system" yes! Literally, he demonstrates understanding.. not taking it personally, and seeing a broader perspective!
Genius show!
Please repent from all of your sins turn to the Lord Jesus Christ. Ask him for forgiveness and mercy he suffered and died on a cross for us he was killed on a Roman torture device for us. Please start living for the Lord Jesus Christ because you are either for the world or for the Lord Jesus Christ. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him should not parish but have eternal life.
@@diegoferrr6173 Please don’t put Jesus onto others in a video that has nothing to do with religion
@@diegoferrr6173 keep it up
“An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure” wow
That's an old saying, but, I'm glad you've been exposed to it.
That's a pretty common saying.
The saying is from Benjamin Franklin, one of the founders
Doesn’t matter how old or common it is... My 1st time hearing it
Proactive as opposed to reactive.
“Lets get uncomfortable” i’ve always said to never get comfortable PERIOD. I love this 💚
I feel like this conversation needs to be had with a group of black officers as well as from people with diff perspectives and experiences from the host. It needs to happen in every community with that communities officers.
I feel the conversation needs to happen one on one with one black male and one white cop. White people segregate themselves from black people then act as though they know them when in fact they have “never” interacted with the average black person. Their opinions are based on stereotypes and bias.
I've watched a bunch of these and more often than not cops express same or similar concerns across racial boundaries.
@Maze to confusion No, they don't.
I can somewhat agree, at least I get you. But at 1% of the cop population demographics, that'd be sample-fudging
@Maze to confusion You are wrong. Civil rights has always benefited all people. Any benefit obtained in the past has also benefited all women and other ethnic groups. With the exception of gays, their was immediate benefit. Gays were most recently able to benefit from systematic discrimination because of laws that were established after the 60s civil rights movement. “Seeing” more white people is irrelevant to the conversation. The relevant conversation is whites who do not nor have not ever interacted with anyone but whites who think they know anything about other people except what they see on tv.
I’m an officer in Pasadena, CA and would love to attend or participate in a conversation with officers of color. I love what you’re doing with these panels. Such positive outcomes from these types of discussions.
Thank you for your service
Thank you
Thank u for ur service officer❤
Thank you!! God bless you
thank you for your service
“Proximity breeds care and distance breeds fear.” - Emmanuel 🙌🏽
I grew up inner city, a Hispanic, living in an all black neighborhood. I can personally tell you that the opposite is true. Proximity breed fear because you see all the negativity fostered in the area. The lack of regard for human life, even one that looks like you, is astounding and overwhelmingly sad. The fear of getting jumped or having to fight every day of my life was a reality for me. Simply because I looked like a white guy, or because my skin was too light during the summer months. Distance bred care and proximity bred fear. That's why I moved away as soon as I could. I don't want my kids to go through the hardships I had to go through in the community.
@@uranumbnuts Yeah wait actually wasn't the true saying "familiarity breed contempt"
@@dited358 that is in fact, the original saying. Yes.
@@uranumbnuts Hello! I can see why that phrase means something totally different to you, thank you for sharing that because regardless its a new perspective for me. Everyone can interpret his quote differently like I did and keep in mind he made the original quote his own based on his own experiences. If I may, what I understood from his phrase was proximity AND familiarity. We could be familiar with other cultures and even watched documentaries etc. But it's important to build relationships with people from other cultures as well to be fully immersed and aware of their circumstances. Also, as a latinx person I believe you would agree that we hate it when others stereotype our entire culture and race for the fault of a few.
@Gisselle Barreto I was merely pointing out that the phrase used was incorrect. Even from a psychological standpoint. Ppl, by nature, are sympathetic to others that look like them. One way of breaking that thought process, is nationalism, of which I fully support and fight for. We are a melting pot, not just of cultures, but ideas. We have the potential to build relationships with ppl of different cultures everyday. I'm not opposed to that.
As an aside, I am not latinx. I don't condone the use of latinx. I am Latino. And as a Latino, I can absolutely agree that stereotypes exist for a reason. Nothing wrong with stereotypes. They merely describe patterns of groups. Stereotypes is how groups like the FBI catch criminals. Profiles are based in patterns that certain types of ppl follow or create. We can't exactly say that stereotypes are bad for one thing and in the same breath, claim they are good for others.
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It felt like you were barely scratching the surface here. I especially appreciated the moments when the officers were asking questions. I think that’s the point where they are going to be most open. I’d also be really curious to hear a conversation with black cops and see what differences there are.
yes, i would love a part 2 and part 3 to this episode
Yeah, it would be great to perhaps have the officers guide the interview to get them to open up even further. And there does need to be a deeper conversation than this but this is a great start.
I had a similar thought. I'd like to see follow-on discussions drilling down into the details. The responses seemed careful, although sincere, but there also seemed to be a lot that was not said. Plus, they had some serious cop faces on - not giving away their thoughts.
“That not a shot at me. That’s a shit at the system.” What a great reflection. Thank you for this video.
when he said that officer was charged and fired immediately im sorry to say he wasn’t i mean he was eventually but not immediately
It took long and rigorous days
Fr I was waiting for the guy to jump in and say no he wasn’t. Like he was literally protected, there were a bunch of cops around his house because he wasn’t arrested immediately and he was at home.
It took days of protesting for anything to be done, and now he's out of jail because his bail got payed.
No one is ever immediately arrested and sent to prison for any crime. Jail perhaps but any serious criminal charges get looked at and murder cases can take years. Even on tape.
@@kittenwu8527 well obviously but the point is it even took time for him to be taken to jail, there was a straight up video of him kneeling on the guys neck and the man clearly saying he couldn’t breathe. So I know he wouldn’t be charged and sent to prison but they just let him go and he was probably on paid leave and it took a protest for them to actually arrest him and take him to jail.
Sounds like Petaluma is on the right track as a community. Thank you for talking, all of you!
You got jokes!
This was way too short. I think this conversation could have gotten MUCH deeper. They need to do a 4 part series on this, but it was a good starter.
Thinking the same. Need more shows like this in more cities.
@ I was about to say the same thing
@@user-kq2we1ex3h I understand sista, but we have to start with communication, accountability and acknowledgement. The problem with our society is acknowledgment. White people use deflection, strawman tactic to avoid these issues for discussion.
@ Personally I'm all in for us governing ourselves. Buying property away from da cities, starting more and strengthening black banks. Dealing with businesses primarily in our communities and having our own community peace keepers that we can call to assist. Even community funding programs (that our taxes would pay for) to send our children to college and can assist to pay our medical expenses. We gotta stop looking to white people to save us or at least get them out of our day to day lives.
I completely agree with Chris H., make this at least a 4 part series.
As a black cop, I found this conversation lacking in certain perspectives. Yes, we as cops are human but notice that the host said, and is often true, that black people don't usually see black cops as threats. But what I felt was missing was the black cops who also understand the fear of our kinsmen because we're privy to certain mindsets on this job. I'm sure all of those officers believe themselves good people, but in this setting you wouldn't see any of them be anything but professional. Ask us how some of our coworkers have problematic views when the veneer of professionalism is removed. Anyway, it is good that the conversation was had but maybe make it actually uncomfortable next time.
Well said, that is a very valid perspective. I am very glad that this discussion has been started, a step in the right direction, just more people need to acknowledge the truth of systemic racism.
I think this was good, personally. Not TOO uncomfortable, but not necessarily an easy conversation to be had. Especially when it’s not only being recorded for public viewing, but everyone you work with is right there watching you talk in the moment. They should totally do a second episode with these officers and get deeper in, though. Establish a solid respectful atmosphere first, then delve into something that can make people think deep. Shake things up when everyone’s a little more okay with being shaken. Perhaps if there were fewer people present, it might actually yield more open and personal honesty since most coworkers aren’t present to judge you. Or more group interaction with all the people present in the audience to make it less “all eyes on you” for those in the main chairs!
@@ingoeggers8356 And if racism were NOT systemic, how could the police change minds about that?
if a black person sees white cops as threats, but not black cops as threats - thats their own personal, racist mindset coming out. When i get pulled over, i could give a rats ass what race, color, ethnicity, age the cop is - they are all the same to me. those that believe otherwise are ignorant and a large part of the problem.
@@SpeedyCorky I, also, don't care what race/age/ the cop is, because I'm not viewed by the cops as a threat. Every cop that meets me is going to be polite and respectful. If I were a black man between the ages of 16-35 I would REALLY care who was pulling me over.
Everything that comes out of his mouth sounds like a spoken word performance, it's so fascinating
@JS Sim That is a microaggression, we don't do that here
@@glitchisfluffy ?
it sounds almost like he doesn’t rly know what he’s talking about. why is he so obsessed with white and black? it’s all about race when this problem is much more complex than this. the majority of unarmed people make sudden movements towards their waistband or into the car or under the seat. it almost always looks like they’re reaching for a gun, and that results in people reacting. and that reaction is completely fair. to expect a police officer to wait and see whether someone has a gun is completely irrational and impossible. you can’t train that and nobody with a brain would wait to find out. yet everyone expects them to. why?
@@glitchisfluffy bro wtf are u on about lmao they complimented him?
@@jacobgreen0915 I agree, it’s kinda hard to listen to him
This was a really interesting and necessary dialogue. I almost feel like it needs to be a series with discussions in different areas. The best cases would be in areas where the police force is majority White, but the areas they service are predominantly POC. The LAPD and NYPD, with very long, complicated history with their communities (and significant budgets) would really be ideal
The challenge is finding the squads willing, from those communities and cities
They need to do this once a week for a year so the tension can start to dissolve. Everyone was on edge in this room and it hurt the conversation.
@@wyattcoe8825 true man. I feel like the officers are also on edge afraid of what brass is going to say
I hate that there are cuts in this video. Let us hear the whole conversation uncut, raw, and immersive.
I don’t think they have cuts im pretty sure it’s just camera switches
In this video Emmanuel explains the cuts and edits they do in their videos. th-cam.com/video/jXNtrqHCNUc/w-d-xo.html
@@sencoin4921 you think they really just had a 20 min convo ? Stop it ofc it’s edited Lmfaooo
@@theBellinghamster a Darren here in action
@@jakob_ysk943 another Darren😂
Anyone else wish there was a black officer having a conversation with them?
My ex husband was a police officer and he was the only black officer in his squad. He would have never told the truth about the issues he saw in a talk like this...because for one it is a brotherhood and secondly it is a white brotherhood and that would have been used against him.
Yes! Why? Because it is important to show that "blackness" or "brownness" among the ranks of police does NOT invalidate the charge of systemic racism and white supremacy in the institution. Look at Nigeria. That is a nation of black people protesting police brutality by black people, stemming from colonial British training, which was historically racist.
Doesn't matter to me no
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This is a remarkable video. This “host/narrator” is absolutely wholesome, honorable, and a great mediator.
This interview is beautiful and Im glad you all were mature enough to come together and socialize and put it all on the table.
This was a start. 👏🏾
What i do find lacking is here:
- confronting the problems in the system
- deeper dive into the accountability thing
- responding to “immediate justice with the officers” in the GF case
- talking about acknowledging that they often defend the badge more than the issue at hand
- not having just the willing and “wokend” officers speak.
I don't have comments for most of that list but the last one. Not having willing officers? how is he supposed to do that? If they aren't willing to talk then don't make them talk.
@@Spooffasa you’re right👌🏾
Maybe some responses out of the audience. Or responses that arent just social desirable. (I ASSUME some of them have such opinions.
I appreciate that he has this series and recognize that they're made to help white people feel more comfortable. Its a nice first step but many of them and this video specifically was pretty light weight. He didn't ask tough questions and these officers are open and recognize to some extent the issue. That helps with the narrative that all cops aren't bad but no questions were asked about holding the bad ones accountable, changing the culture and routing out racism in the system.
Shouldn't be one sided. What can black Americans do? Do we have any responsibilities also?
It is a conversation to get s common ground
“There’s not enough proximity between people who do not look like each other” that part. This odd for all types of people honestly.
It’s only an odd concept in America, most other countries are homogeneous.
I've never had a proximity between anyone in my community.
No matter the color.
It's a legitimate point that white officers may not know how to talk to blacks. Every video I've watched I thought the officers were very respectful and polite, but just got yelled at and/or attacked for it. Maybe that's not the best way to deal with the black community. I certainly don't want officers yelling back or being MORE aggressive ... I can't imagine that's the right solution. But maybe there's another way we just haven't thought of yet.
@@tkfordeful I definitely wouldn't say most other countries are homogeneous.
Most of Europe is really intermingled. Latin America is full of different indigenous tribes, afro-latinos, and immigrants. Almost everywhere has a mix of distinct cultures even if they're all considered the same race.
I really like Nick. He seems like he’s educated himself a lot and isn’t defensive.
I don't cry. I teared up when Nick was talking about the Women's march and grasping that someone can support policing and also want to shift the status quo to something that works better for everyone.
Eating crow is hard, eating the fallout from someone else's bs is even worse. I feel bad for and I worry deeply about people on the force like him. Most people join to help, and a not insignificant amount join for the power trip and the fantasy. Knowing that your well meaning intentions were warped by pro-police propaganda and you became part of the problem is devastatingly humiliating, to the point you may react involuntarily at first by angrily denying you've been tricked. It's a normal and natural reaction in a situation like this.
He's incredibly humble and willing to keep up service while learning. I've met only one other officer like him before, when I was a teenage runaway.
I totally agree...I saw his heart.
@@mel7906 I don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me lol, but one thing is clear: ALL humans must be held accountable for their mistakes. Being an employee of the government should NOT grant you immunity. Of course I think a majority of police officers have good intentions and are honorable, but all people should be held at the same level.
@@kennathomas8797 OH no no no my bad! I'm sorry for being confusing. I totally agree with you! Then I went on to state my personal feelings and after that, just a little perspective to how or why we're seeing some of the reactions we are from them. None of it was particularly directed at you anyone, but between yours and the other person, It just made me think of all that was all ,//_//,
This was the best conversation ive heard in along time. Amazing. Please keep doing these.
Communication is key, like in any relationship. Take a knee, there's outrage. Say Black Lives Matter, there's outrage. Defund the Police, there's outrage. Too many times people get outraged without truly understanding what these statements MEAN. We need to stop REACTING to things, and learn to LISTEN FIRST.
YES
Absolutely. Listen, research, and read is what everyone needs to do
Yes, we need to be willing to educate ourselves and stop reacting based on assumptions
So right.
There is truth to this, but I submit that the phrase "defund the police" was not well defined in the early days of it being a slogan. There were many people who were defining it exactly to mean "abolish the police". We can listen, but if the message is mixed or vague, then what good is it?
I feel like there wasn’t enough said here. I want to know what is the reason behind use of force/violence when a black person simply asks why are they being pulled over? There was a video I seen where a black guy asked that question and it resulted in his car door being opened (unlawfully) and he was yanked out of his car.
definatly we really saw him asking the cops asking questions to the cops but he wasn’t asking the right ones in my opinion
i saw that to
I agree that this video didn’t feel uncomfortable at all because the questions were very soft. But I think it’s great because it shows that there are cops who are listening and understand what’s going on. How do you expect a cop to answer that question? If I’m a cop who has never used excessive force, how could I answer for what another man did? Other than the fact that he should’ve never been a cop due to his biases, power trip, or just straight up racism, there’s really no other reasoning.
@@dreamingbig98 I felt like he wanted to start conversation and didn’t scrolled them. And try to prove them wrong. But him asking questions and showing a black man isn’t is irrational and just here to talk. This is more about knowing opening up communication.
@@dreamingbig98 I feel like they are more understanding now that they are put in front of a camera. But you never know who could be the next cop that kills a black person it’s more about prevention. He’s trying to share his mind set how a black person feels outside of getting pulled over. Maybe that cop will be one with another cop how doesn’t think the same. Knowledge Is so strong. I do agree his comments were soft but it’s a start.
When I was growing up, the cops that would patrol my neighborhood were some of my favorite people ever. They would stop and talk to the kids, teach us about their job, one even gave us their card with their number on it and told us if we ever need help, he'd be there for us. If we can get back to that this country would be a better place.
I can tell you from experience that they're still around, both deputies and fire marshals. It's just they have always been overshadowed by irresponsible practices, quotas, and rampant corruption.
I think that's a bit of a illusion Bobbi. If you look at the history of policing in the United States, it has always had serious problems. If you drop in a white middle-class neighborhood for instance, then your experience police officers would not give an accurate picture of a problem.
Just gotta get people to stop being bigoted toward police.
@@FirstNameLastnName No, "people" don't do that. Sure many minorities might.
But you got the opposite problem as well. most conservatives seem to assume that police violence was always justified.
If all people truly believed cops where racist killers, then a lot of them would have been imprisoned whenever they beat up or shoot people. Yet this happens extremely rarely, which instead points to an unrealistically positive view of cops.
Unless you assume the jury is rigged by cop lovers. Most likely juries represent an average of the population and in the US they seem to aquite cops for crimes which would have landed them in prison in other countries.
We are still at that. People are being mislead by the media and the sick, racist ideology from liberals and the left. 99% of police offers are good. Look at the statistics. Only 9 black people were killed by a white police officer in 2020. That same year 48 police officers were murdered by black males. Police officers lives are the ones in danger.
This was great to watch. Emmanuel appears to be very comfortable and knows how to have these conversations without seeming like he has chosen a side. He appears very honest, and I think the officers warmed up to him. Very good.
I would love to see a conversation between a black man and black women! About black love, colorism, and societal pressures black women face because of black men! Very insightful video! :)
Yes!
This !!!!
Yes please ugh I’d love that
@Prince Jaren oh really ? All y’all do is bitch whine & moan abt us being angry like cmon
@Prince Jaren they are the punchlines of your jokes, the caretakers you take advantage of, and the people you deem undesirable because you view them in a negative light, wether that be because of how dark they are, their attitude or the way they dress. black men hold just as much prejudice against black women as anyone else that *isnt* a black women, the only difference is that you come from us.
tldr: black men can, they did, and they do. not all, but some.
that “nah, it’s different “ hit so hard lol
HE should interview black officers that protect predominantly black communities. The conversation might be more enlightening and honest. Go to the problem cities and do a real interview on the reasons WHY.. Emmanuel.
Yes it did! Lol
I will repeat this until it's heard: We need every cop who is good to stand up and publicly call out every racist cop. Until then it won't change.
I agree. Good cops calling out bad cops makes the job safer for the good cops.
They really do need to be brave and root out the bad apples. It is telling that they are afraid of each other.
So true! How can they be fair to people of color! If they let the racist cop be abusive!
Unfortunately some of the higher ups are bad as well... and its very unlikely that any cop would stand up and publicly call out a superior, when that would mean effectively ending the police for themselves (getting fired) AND possibly put themselves in danger.
How do you define racism? By what metric does a non racist cop call out a racist cop?
I LOVE this idea of having uncomfortable conversations with those who might have a different perspective. So much more can get done if we all talk about it.
The part where they are talking about how many other white people in the room is so key.
I never realized just what it is like for black person to look around a room and only see one or two other people like them until I was taken by a black friend of mine into a bar in the south east Chicago. As soon as I walked in I instantly had made eye contact with the other 3-4 white people. Never felt uncomfortable in while there but it was definitely a feeling of being out of sorts.
Completely made me rethink what the experience of my black friends was like for them going to the mostly white liberal arts school we attended. I think more white people need to experience something like what I experienced in order to fully make it click just how different the black experience in America is.
(Apologies for the lack of clarity in this comment I speak better than I type)
Well said!
yes. exactly. it is always the white folks who don't live around, work with , or socialize in predominantly black places that claim racism doesn't exsist.
The problem is , black people don't know which white person had that "experience" and has a slight understanding of how different our lives are .
Its true. Even when considering a restaurant to eat at with the family or a bar to have hang out with friends, me being a person of color takes this into account every time to measure the potential treatment I will receive.
Bullshit. So many times I was the only white guy in a group, drinking and smoking and whatnot. After a while you don't see the color, you see people. IT'S THE MEDIA WHO RUBS THE COLOR OF PEOPLE ON OUR FACES ALL THE TIME. The reason is to distract us from important things and to make us fight each other.
I really appreciated how he explained BLM. That explanation allowed me to see the movement in a different way and while I supported it before, I feel like his perspective furthered what I understand about BLM. Thank you for that.
And what would that be?
@@visioday1814 did you watch the video?
Please repent from all of your sins turn to the Lord Jesus Christ. Ask him for forgiveness and mercy he suffered and died on a cross for us he was killed on a Roman torture device for us. Please start living for the Lord Jesus Christ because you are either for the world or for the Lord Jesus Christ. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him should not parish but have eternal life.
@@diegoferrr6173 no thanks i'll stay an atheist
@@royal3809 that was hilarious😂😭
I didn’t click on this & expect you to say my cousin’s name 🥺🥺🥺 thank you 🙏🏾 #JonathanPrice
Oh he was your cousin sorry for your lost
There’s always something about a good video that you’re not able to click off of. Great *needed* discussion and commentary!
There is no discussion to be had as police are not racist and they mistreat everyone not just black ppl per they have a slave master mentality and anyone who doesn't fully bend over for them they go into full SM mode... Twice as many white ppl are killed by police than blacks; every year only less than 10 black ppl are killed every year by cops meanwhile THOUSANDS of black ppl are killed every year by other black ppl yet there is absolutely no outcry from blm ppl about this... black ppl, though 13% of the population commit over 50% of crimes and violent crimes... Over 90% of all negative police interactions of blacks is caused by ignorant, wreckless, and overly emotional black ppl exacerbating non situations, thus self-inflicted... Black culture is the problem as it's what feeds the issues... All laws and restrictions to hold black ppl back are and have always been from democrats (party of slavery and racism) yet black ppl overwhelmingly vote dem thus self-inflicted destruction
I'd love to see my tax money going to regularly round tables like this discussion in every community. This is something that should be funded. Talking to each other respectfully, believe that the other person is not your opponent, even if it may seem so at first.
Emmanuel, thank you for giving me hope there is still some conversation culture, some will of working together in this country.
Don't hesitate to make these conversations longer, much longer. We need them, it has never been boring, I could have watched every episode for hours.
Agree completely with roundtable discussions within communities, and I also agree with your point that these are never boring, I always listen to every word without skipping ahead. Very informative and engaging.
@John Sprague So they either don't have enough people who do public outreach or the wrong ones (meaning not well enough trained in that field, I'm not judging these people personally) or these people don't have enough ressources to be successful. I guess we agree on the fact police and community have to respect and trust each other. It didn't work out in the past shouldn't mean we don't keep trying in the future. But I'm very open for you constructive ideas on how it can be done.
@William Loudermilk First of all I don't expect police officers to do their job for free. They need to find time to discuss in roundtables. We still need officers on the streets, so we either need more police or have to pay them for overtime. Where should the money to pay them come from? Right, it's tax money.
In case you don't know: to maintain public rooms of any kind you need money. It may already been spent for rooms in libraries, still it's tax money that is spent.
Being unhappy with life in the US should not result in someone pressing a "world-wide" (!) reset button. You may not know, but there are other countries on this planet that wouldn't agree on that solution.
"Agree to disagree" is a good way to end arguments on things like "best basketball team", "nicest car", "most beautyful actress", but we are talking about politics. You need to find ways the other side doesn't neccessarily like, but will tolerate. Otherwise it'll be changed every 4 to 8 years. You are making "deals".
Both sides were not terribly good at that the last years.
@John Sprague Let me answer your last question first, because it's the most important.
We (and I mean all human beings) need more of what Emmanuel created right here: safe spaces where no question is off the table, you are allowed to ask the most stupid question (at least the most stupid for the other person), where you are not judged because you don't already know, where you find people with qualities and characteristics you've never met before. We need good hosts for that.
And though I don't like to enforce things, everyone should have to attend a certain number of these meetings to see if it's a good thing or not. If we don't enforce it, too many could be too lazy to participate. Make it a course in school.
To your other questions:
I'm not that sure we agree on so much. Your approach seems to be to demand somthing or take something away from others, mine is to ask them what I could do differently.
I'd say we agree pretty much when it comes to the police side. They become embittered and I understand why. I do understand why they are nervous and tend to be too violent. I've talked to some police officers in all the countries I've travelled to, and the most friendly one was in germany who explained to me he was so relaxed because their training takes about 3 years, they are trained psycholically, in doubt their task is to protect people, isolate the suspect and wait for special ops. And most important, the cop said, is they know they outgun 99.9% of the people with their 9mm. I can understand you are more relaxed and more friendly when you can be pretty sure you may be beaten or spit at, but not shot. I'm not totally against 2nd, but when I'd think I needed an (semi-) automatic rifle to protect my family from my neighbours as soon as they are out of toilet paper, I would just move. When a gun isn't sufficient, either because the attackers are too many or you are a bad shooter so you need more bullets, you're screwed anyway.
The constitution was written when you were able to give 2-3 shots in a minute, so I don't think the founder fathers wanted to ensure you are able to kill 20+ people a minute.
I know how big the change in mindset would have to be to put a limit to firearms, but I'll explain why. I asked young couples with small children/babies what they needed to protect their children. In the US, most of these couples thought of guns first. In a country like germany, they were talking about safe seats in cars or at the kitchen table. I have to say I'd love to have US parents think of something else than guns first when it comes to "safety" of children.
I wouldn't remove CNN, and I still think FOX is more biased, because CNN is criticizing the own side way more often than FOX does. But that's another topic.
However, I would agree to the officer of Acho's discussion that an officer is watched much closer as soon as the suspect is a person of color. The problem is: there is a reason why they are watched more closely. I hope we find ways that reason goes away, so no one has to take a closer look to police officers and suspects of colors anymore. Should CNN or whoever not change their behaviour after the reason is gone for some time, we'll talk again.
I don't like some messages in some rap songs (don't even like the music, so I don't listen to it and that's why I don't know how many of the songs have good or bad messages), but "stopping" it isn't that easy and I don't like the idea of taking away the freedom to make music I don't like. Living in the "land of the free" the goal shouldn't be to forbid a call for violence, but to make it unwanted, unprofitable and obsolete by teaching everyone to treat each other with respect. As soon as there is no person of color frightened of the police just because the color of their skin I don't see why they should like a song that calls for violence against officers.
Until then there could be talks with artists and labels to work together to be more helpful in achieving the common goal, but I think taking away music by law is the wrong way. Especially when we look at the historic context. Slaves only had their music to keep them upright on the fields. Anyway, I believe in collaboration, so I'd like to try that first and ask which steps are needed to make them stop calling for violence in order to make things better for everyone.
I don't know what you mean with "increase personal responsibility among black men". Why should there be a difference in personal responsibilty because of the color of ones skin? It seems it's more likely to be killed by law enforcement when you are a suspect and you are black than when you're white. How much more can your responsibility be increased? I never had a black colleague who acted more irresponsible than a white would have done, so maybe I just don't get what you mean.
As Emmanuel stated many times, the goal is to treat black and white people equally, but because black people have been treated so differently in the past and until now, there will be a time when we have to double and triple-check if they are treated equally. The two best pictures (to me) Emmanuel has drawn were "the runner who is free to run as fast as the other one, but was held back the first part of the race and is now told his chances are equal" and the explanation of why "black lives matter" is right now more correct than "all lives matter". He explained it with COVID. Certainly we still have to deal with cancer, HIV, all the other things, but right now the problem at hand is COVID. So I'm totally for "all lives matter", but as there has never really been a question that white lives matter, it's time to make sure that "black lives matter". So I hope to be able to switch to "all lives matter" pretty soon, as soon as everybody knows and acts like we all agree on "black lives matter".
I don't think parents have to wed, they should just act responsibly and think before having ----- a baby (how explicit am I allowed to be in these comments?)
Cut social programs is a two-sided sword. Some may think "i can have a baby, someone will pay", but some will be in need and couldn't foresee it. I don't want them to be encouraged to anything, neither to abortion because they can't afford a child nor to having a child and being unable to pay for it. In that case the baby would have to "pay", and it's never the fault of the newborn. So knowing that we'll pay for some people that acted irresponsible, I don't want to let the mothers or parents and especially babies down that didn't and are in need.
We should teach the young people more responsibilty, but we should be realistic and not only say "wait until you're married", but "you should wait until you find the right partner, proof the partner, wait a little, then think about having---- a baby. If you think you can't wait for whatever reason, protect yourself. You have the following options...."
We should sue every person who calls for violence no matter what color his skin has, white, yellow, black, red or orange. I really don't like to see how you single out black leaders. No one should be allowed to call for violence, period. Not in the open, not with "secret messages". Everyone should make clear he/she is against violence in all forms. The more important and well known you are, the clearer you should be.
School cops? To protect the kids from what? Themselves? Attackers from outside / inside?
Let's be honest, the easier it is to harm someone, the more people will be injured whenever something happens. US has tried to be safer by having more guns for decades, when is the time to admit it doesn't work? We need more understanding, not more guns.
I like to understand and learn about other people, but it often took me forever to find people willing to talk about (for example) their religion (problems with skin color, with their orientation etc.). I have always been careful if it was okay to ask one more question, I was unsure if I wasn't too "noisy". But it was helpful to understand why they do some things like they do and why they are angry about other things.
Why not a new class in school like "tolerance" or "respect". Let people of minorities, people of other religion, other -whatever- talk about their experiences. That way you don't have to be interested in other cultures/religions/people like me and have to look for them and try to talk to them yourself with all the difficulties, but the people who are willing to talk about their religion/ culture... come to you and explain. The kids would learn a lot and hopefully they'd understand each other better, don't fear each other and tolerate each other.
I've been to countries where kids asked me if I would allow them to touch me because they wanted to feel how my skin would feel. I allowed and you could see how careful they were, not knowing what to expect. But you could see in their faces that if you have seen something yourself, touched something yourself, talked to someone yourself, you begin to understand it and understand you don't have to fear it. That's what we need.
And that's why we need more safe spaces.
Please keep having THIS particular conversation. There needs to be a conversation about good cops protecting bad cops. Until the good cops all stand up and say NO MORE, this will continue. This starts at the union and works its way through all departments.
AMEN!!!!! 10000% spot ON!! & this is what is being omitted in this situation we find ourselves!! The bad apples are polluting the good ones..hence in the eyes of minorities in particular, there's a disdain and distrust of the police!
Yh I agree
good luck getting them to budge. Blue wall of silence
After finishing the video, I'm realizing cops aren't the problem. They've been scapegoated for the us criminal justice system and the self serving law makers.
@@mateorome yeah there's so much humanity which a lot of them try to bring to the job, but the system hates and does everything not to reward that kind of humanity
"It starts in the home. If a kid doesn't have a father in the home he will look for one in the streets" - Denzel Washington
damn bro that hits.
In a way. But I was a single mother. My daughter is 20 and has not seen her father since she was 8. Statistically she should have been pregnant, doing drugs and locked up at 15. But she kept her head in the books, in marching band for 6 years, graduated top of her class and now in college. One good parent can be enough.
@@Tiffaloni it’s different you’re a mother she’s a girl u can yea her and help her grow into a beautiful strong independent woman as a boy needs a man needs to see the perspective from a mans point of view but also raised well enough to understand a woman that’s where u come in... not saying either gender cannot contribute to the other but it’s how we a raised by see and learn and hearing over time
@@Tiffaloni I grew up without my dad in most of my life he was there financially but physically he wasn’t, he passed away when I finally tried to get to actually know him , I grew up with my mom she did an amazing job but I needed a father cause now I’m 23 learning how to be a man on my own and seeing and taking example from good men along life.
Amen!!
Well Said Emmanuel!!! I appreciate these men answering the questions as honest as possible. Well done gentlemen.
When talking about defund the police I feel like people take it personally without realizing its not a personal attack. We are not saying take their pay check. We are saying stop using their budget to bail the bad cops out. Use that budget to pay a social worker to come with every cop to help de-escalate situations because they are TRAINED for those specific situations.
If that’s the case then shouldn’t we all be protesting for more training so that we can avoid situations that turn to an officer using their gun
*I* am saying take away their paycheck. If they murder somebody like George Floyd or anybody else like that and smile on camera, take their job, take their check, don't have a city settle something, take the money away from the cops directly. Then, put them in jail and blackball them if they get out of jail ever. Period.
Defund the police can mean several things, but if nothing else, take away some of these extra pieces of equipment they abuse. They are too militarized, and they misuse or overuse force when it comes to black folks.
@@Iloveswedes I agree, police that enact police brutality should be immediately be fired and stripped of their pension. But shouldn’t we punish the officer, not the department. I mean if he/she just did the action why should the rest suffer. And I believe that if we take money from a department that would affect the quality of officers responding to calls n stuff since we took money away from them that they could have spent to hire competent cops. Plus I don’t really think that police are militarized, in my opinion I think that they’re just modernizing and learning from what happened to them in the past. Their Long guns or AR15s are there because why not? Criminals have them so why should they be outgunned, the main reason why the police have AR15s is because of the North Hollywood bank shootout. Their Kevlar vests are there because they don’t want to get shot at or take a bullet. The armored cars that they have are there because they’re bulletproof since the police don’t like getting shot at.
Then you'll need more funding for police if you want a social worker to ride along with them.
ACAB isn't personal? Proclaiming that people's family members who are in law enforcement are pos isn't personal?
Emmanuel Acho Please read; 13:37. you made me understand "Black Lives Matter". I'm a white man from the south who had the "all lives matter! GTFOH!" attitude. I have tears right now. i never understood. thank you
thank u for understanding. we love you
This is an awesome comment
but then as a blm supporter you also have to accept the blue lives matter movement. nowadays police officers are often viewed as shit even though the majority are good cops. just think about all the hate they currently experience and have experience in the past. i mean the term acab exist like forever...
@@swisscheese9819 I had to google ACAB. I dont feel this at all. I fully support the enforcement of our laws. I have zero hate for LEOs and i'm a convicted felon, 5 time felon. I know first hand the difference between the good and bad when it comes to cops. i do believe police have a bad hand dealt to them right now because of the whole "a few bad apples" thing going on. however those few bad apples are bad, like really bad. i sympathise with police officers right now, the good ones anyway, because they all dress the same and when you all look alike, well, it's hard to know who is who
@@yuna-ed6fb It means "all cops are bastards".
Why am I Barely discovering his channel? Intelligent conversations with intelligent people. Emotional intelligence. The world needs more of it.
More or less.
I’ve never heard someone explain their feelings about the blue line flag in such a concise and well thought out manner. I completely understand and agree with his feelings on that. Very well put!
Huh?
“I see him being black first vs I see you as a cop” mmm that one hit a different note
Honestly it made me think. Its an uncomfortable conversation but nobody wanted to address his biases either for fear of sounding bad on national television/TH-cam etc. I think both sides have work to do and that comment solidified my opinion on it
I actually disagree, I see a police officer before I see that they are black.
@@Samendio thats what im saying. People automatically see black and brown cops as good and white cops as bad, but really as a poc I see all cops as cops until they do something that makes them an asshole or a corrupt cop. Because at the end of the day we're all people regardless of race or color. Most of these guys are just trying to do their job out there and come back home to their families. Its a very few minority that are actually racist and corrupt and it ruins their image as a whole which really sucks and is unfair, but thats the society we live in today
That can be whats so bad with police interactions on both sides. If the cop is more on edge because they are black or the civilian is because the cop is white.
@@coperniki8286 well I see it as just adaptation to the work environment. If the area you're assigned to patrol is a low income minority neighborhood then yeah youre gonna be on edge, anybody who says they aren't is a liar. Thats a gangs home turf most of the time. Being on edge is normal for a cop but when people decide to be difficult and assholes with cops it just pushes their luck white black or brown. A lot of people don't realize there's footage before the incident that escalated the whole incident, usually because the suspect refuses to believe he or she is in the wrong and refuses to comply and have a little decency. Not saying all encounters but thats how a lot involving force go
"When is the last time you had black people over at your house for dinner?"
I don't remember the last time I had anyone of any race over at my house for dinner lmao
fo real.
Wow
Haha me too. Then he was like when is the last time you've talked to a group. I'm too introverted to talk to a group of people 😆 of any race.
I’m pretty sure he used that as an opener to get them extremely uncomfortable and thinking. Just to
Prep them for the real question. It was also related to the next thing he talked about, the distance between the white and black communities.
As my post said when was the last time this black man had a chinese man over for dinner, or a Russian, he probably hasn't had a white person, or a native American. Makes him pretty racist 😂
I saw this on tiktok and I came straight over to TH-cam lol
Same
same!!
Right lol didn’t even finish the tiktok
Same
me too
You are black excellence. Thank you my brother for taking this to the podium and speaking on things upfront and making it personal so that the police understand our daily struggles with the law enforcement presence can be unsettling.
Black ppl though 13% of the population commit over 50% of all crimes and violence crimes; thus obviously police would be on the alert when in urban areas... police don't interact with ppl unless they are causing issues or if it appears an issue is being caused... over 90% of all negative police interactions is from weak, wreckless, overly emotional ppl exacerbating non situations then they wrongly blame cops for their own stupidity... if you get pulled over for speeding, it's not because you are black it's because you were speeding yet the weak mindset of most black ppl is "it's because I'm black that's why"... racism and self victimization is a Serious problem in the black community sides weakness in general... Until this get addressed things won't look up
The officers who show up are NOT the problem.
Hmm they responded to many of the questions with immediate anger so I mean, that’s something to worry about. Responding to people with anger IS A PROBLEM.
Their complicit silence is totally the problem.
@@o.h.w.6638 Not one answer was angry, some were defensive yeah ofc they were thats what happens in a group discussion. But not one point was there anger and I even say none were immediate, they all took a moment to think before they spoke
Great point.
They aren't the source of the problem, but they contribute to the problem by not being actively part of the solution.
"That's not a shot at me, that's a shot at the system." Important.
System racism doesn't exist
White privilege doesn't exist
@@dove6069 Says racist with white privilege posting in anonymity without accountability.
@@dove6069 - GTFOH!
@@hueykhalidX He is just another loser seeking attention. Ignore him.
@@Iloveswedes white people arent privileged, black people are suppressed.
Excellent discussion. I give props to all the officers willing to be present and honest. Emmanuel is an excellent host. Making sure that he acknowledges everyone by name. I love how well he explain experiences of Black people and maintains a nonjudgmental stance. This is fire 🔥🔥🔥
this is so much better than the yelling and polarized, sensationalized nonsense you see on major networks. just calm, respectful, logical discussion and a focus on understanding both sides and finding solutions
Really good conversation! To think this was three years ago and it is still a very needed conversation today!
again, again, do this exact one again, but LONGER. This country needs to see this conversation happening on the regular. for sure. thank you so much
I'm a police officer and one of my coworkers brought up this video to one of our Sergeants. I chuckled because I honestly expected based upon the title it would be a humorous video. The world needs more discourse like this. I know I started down this path to help people and I sincerely hope we can continue making forward progress. Keep up the great work.
The first questions says it all. "When have you invited a Black person over to eat??" Dude said pre Covid, then actually pre Covid I can't remember, meaning he hasn't!
The white officers need to be coming into our Black communities.. Not just because something has happened.. But to TALK. To understand where our pain is. To hear for themselves the daily fear and societal disadvantages we have. Humanising us will allow them to know how to deal with each situation so much better.
I can see where you’re coming from. But that could also go the other way around. Have you ever went up to a cop and said hi how you doing, asking about their daily lives, it requires the both to work together. If a black person avoid the white police than the white police will probably avoid the black person
@@dr.donkey9254 I wrote a whole paper about this for my ap lang class. The thing about it going both ways is that black people don’t speak to police officers because we have constantly been mistreated by them. Who do think was beating us during the Civil Rights movement. A lot of black people don’t feel safe around cops because there is a long history of black people being mistreated by cops and it’s still going on to this day. Most white cops have never been in a black community and a lot of their knowledge on black communities is filled with stereotypes and bias beliefs. As someone who’s father is cop( he is black) I know that white cops don’t even fully interact with black cops half of the time. It is not the black communities job to make cops feel comfortable and safe especially after the long history of torture we have received from cops. It is cops literal job to make us feel safe so that is why come they should be making more of an effort to interact with black communities. You can’t expect the black communities to reach out first when they’ve never been shown respect.
@@noriscaife5669 I’m not saying that anyone should make more of an effort. In order to get along we all have to come out of our shell and that goes with anyone anywhere any race. Let’s say this, if you aren’t willing to talk to cops and the cops aren’t willing to talk to you, it creates a barrier that between the two of you and the rift between y’all will keep getting bigger and bigger, sometimes you just gotta be the bigger person and take that chance
I think part of the problem with his answer is that he was afraid to be honest. He didn't want to appear racist. But realistically speaking, it's not surprising that he wouldn't have invited a black person over to eat in a town that is only 1 % black. It's normal to befriend the people you see in your immediate environment. If most or all of the people around you are of the same race, of course that's who you'd connect with. I respected that the other officer was just honest and comfortable with himself by stating he'd never had a conversation with a group of black people before. It was true that proximity breed familiarity and that in turn allows people to be more understanding and open to one another.
@@dr.donkey9254 Although I completely agree with you, the onus of extending the olive branch falls upon those who have caused harm.
I felt like they held back a lot when it came to the real uncomfortable questions! Im happy that someone is asking the question. Thats the reason why I am pursuing my law enforcement career to internal affairs
You sound corny. If you want working cops to be honest, they need anonymity.
Cops are not racist they mistreat everyone; the only difference is white and other races don't act like weak over emotional self victims and cry racism every time a negative interaction happens which is twice as many as black ppl face... give anyone a position of "authority" and they will abuse it; cops have a slave master mentality and use unjust force against anyone who doesn't just bend over for them... black ppl though 13% of the population commit over 50% of crimes and violence crimes thus obviously it makes sense for cops to be more alert to their surroundings when in an urban environment...
"If we could do a better job of disarming, then we wouldn't have to worry about discharging." Well said & on point.
Ok the commie27
Yes
Acho, why didn’t you pushback on the officers disingenuous claim of “immediate” action against Chauvin? That is a false narrative and it’s irresponsible for you NOT to correct him on his ambiguity. State sanctioned/sponsored militia have more than enough protection and they don’t need you to provide more. Hegemonic neutrality isn’t needed here. You have the privilege of this platform and unfortunately, whether you want it or not, it’s your responsibility to conduct and frame this interview from the standpoint of the collective live experience as a marginalized person. You are committing a disservice to the Black community specifically and the POC community at large by not challenging such an ambiguous statement/claim of immediate action. If this was purely an oversight on your part, I sincerely hope you can recognize when you’re in a similar situation in the future and act/respond appropriately... unless you agree that being arrested 88 hours AFTER committing murder which was filmed/televised for world consumption, would qualify as immediate.
Disarming both verbally and physically by training in Jiu Jitsu to at least the level of a purple belt. One of many excellent ideas I've Andrew Yang talk about (among other people).
I think they should really work on de-escalation if they want more respect.
They didn’t bring up the police making peaceful protest violent.
Hitting someone in the head with a skateboard is automatically not peaceful
@@FalconProductions_ you’re speaking of
one incident that also was violent prior to a skateboard. The truth is a lot of these peaceful protests have been met with violence and laughter from the police. But the dialogue in the video is both intriguing and eye opening. A lot of things need to be discussed and fixed. It’s going to take more than 20 minutes to cover all topics.
@@trod2476 you can say the same thing the other way. I say both sides are at fault.
@@ghosoonrassam8582 we cannot take the actions of a few and condemn them all. If it’s done “on the other side” for the majority of the time they’re stopped by those on their side. For example in my are we had several protests all but one city were peaceful. The protestors stopped people from taken things to violence, and in those cities the officers even stopped racist whites from carrying out violence. We had cops handing out pizza to protestors, cops taking a knee with protestors, cops marching with protestors. So what was different in the one city that had violence? The cops came out in military gear laughing at and provoking the protestors. They started throwing gas at them unwarranted, taunting them. Allowing the blue lives matter crowd to throw fireworks at the black lives matter crowd. It was a shit show because of the lack of care from the police in that city.
@@ghosoonrassam8582 PERIOD
This talk "IS" needed all over the USA. As a black woman and as a Black mother, can we or can you talk this talk NATIONALLY. My son's have not had to deal with police officers in their life. My daughter's have always had good experience ( knock on wood). I'm not agaisnt police officers at all however, I AM a black mother and I feel what other mothers feel when they lose a child. Yes, I have lost a child to gun violence. The police were angels to me. They took care of her killer and I'm grateful. But I do not agree with Serial Killers. There's a difference. Police Officers like Officer Tommy in AK? I think is is fine example. When I was younger, I remember when a "Officer Friendly" came to my classroom as a child. That was back in 78. Do those types of community outreaches again. Allow the police officers know who thier community.
Maybe raise your kids right so they don’t break the law and if they do have a run in with the police just comply with and settle in court. You will never win on the street it always hurts you even more no matter what!
I remember when a cop came to my class in like 4th grade. I remember he was weird as hell. Also as an adult I realize everything he said was bald face lies.
@@tash6638
Well not everyone who is killed by a police officer is breaking the law.
And even then, that doesn't make murder right.
Edit: and if the police system is corrupt, what makes you think the court is any better, cause trust me, it isn't.
They can't do that anymore due the hatred of police and anti-police mentality. Too dangerous.
Amen!! 🙏🏽
I'm not a mother yet, but I am a black woman who has experienced racism from cops in a state that's predominantly democrats.
He needs to take this conversation nationally. Ask and people who are willing to accept a conversation with him are those who are obviously willing to listen and change if necessary. This gave me anxiety and also helped calm me down because lots of assumptions floating around, but it's easier to work when all the cards are laid on the table. Actions speak louder than words though, so I'll still pay attention to what they do versus what they say.
Great conversation! I saw this on tik tok n had to come see the whole thing. I will be subscribing. You go black man!
"proximity breeds care , distance breed fear" i need that t-shirt : 2:44
I'd buy one
So simple, so powerfully true
Agreed. I'm on it!
I already make them, and this is definitely a POWERFUL quote!!
yes
@@sheraberry3280 You make shirts? Do you have an instagram or website? If you made this shirt I'd order it for sure.
I found it interesting that the officer observed that every police brutality incident in the media would bring disfavor to police officers as a whole. It's the same feeling Black people have when another Black person gets in trouble for an offense. We feel like every officer is going to respond harsher to us as a whole because of that person's crime. We do need to see people as individuals.
I have seen this common observation made by both sides and the advice to each side is don't be that guy to the other. Work hard to overcome that possible perception. Cops approach every car with awareness that this could be the last stop that they make and some are more nervous about it than others. I know that some black people feel similarly. The lore of each group is a strong bias to overcome as is Stranger Danger and for some, once bitten twice shy.
I couldn’t have said this any better ... 👍🏾
@John Sprague Also, when Emmanuel talked about "The Police Talk" when he was growing up, I don't think he realizes that pretty much everyone has had that talk or something similar from their parent or guardian in their life.
"We do things systematically" and that is the issue when the system is the problem.
exactly what i said
Care to explain please?
@@nunyabailey The police didn't become a widespread thing until 1865 when black people were finally and officially freed from slavery. They needed a way to make slave labor legal. The 14th amendment allows a loophole which states that an incarcerated person can be used for slave labor. Many states in the South created laws specifically targeting black people. They even had these types of laws made throughout the country. Later on, through segregation, war on drugs (planted in the black community), and police killing black people at a rate 2.5 times higher than white people currently, systematic problems remain. When you have a privatized institution built on the principle of incarcerating black people to maintain slave labor and a white race, there's bound to be a systematic bias against black people.
@@raesmith2164 YES! just what I meant with my comment. (but just a quick correction, it's the 13th amendment)
@@phoebeel The 13th amendment only freed slaves. The 14th gave the former slaves the right to vote
This is absolutely amazing! Thank you for having these difficult conversations!
I think what I appreciate the most is that this was the purest form of discussion. There was no "well no, you're wrong". It was simply everybody gives their opinion or answer to the question and was only pushed back when they asked to be pushed back.
This is an amazing video, thank you for this Emmanuel!
I don't like that they said "all it takes is one George Floyd situation." As if that was an isolated incident. George Floyd wasn't the first. Hell he wasn't even the last. I just don't want them to think everything was all good until that one situation. Because it wasn't.
That’s not what they were trying to say what they meant was that no matter how much good there is all it takes is one bad incident to destroy all the good that has been done
EXACTLY. i went into this video expecting some seriously uncomfortable content and what i got was the same soft-bellied stuff you see everywhere.
the part that really got me was towards the end when it was said that cops should seek to establish trust with their communities on a personal level. thats a cute notion but it cannot work in the real world because this work done to establish "trust" is only used to bury the cruelties of the police, and how every level of our "justice" system not only allows, but encourages state-sanctioned violence. you can't have a white cop show up and play basketball with the black youth and think it'll change the racial tension here, or make any black kid less afraid of cops. it'll make the kid less afraid of one cop, or a couple of them, but it completely ignores that the whole damn system is rotten. police have literally shown up to protests and taken protestors into unmarked vans and kidnapped them. this is not something a game of interracial basketball can fix. this whole video did not ask the right questions
@@m.e.p.7223 you wrote that extremely well. I definitely agree.
Exactly.
@@timucinkose6918 We understand what they’re saying..... we’re just saying the whole premised is wrong. The whole criminal justice system has systemically harmed black and brown people. It was never a handful of bad incidents. Damn near every regular schmegular black boy I know was stopped and frisked more than once back when it was legal. Our everyday bad experiences with police (and the CJ system) has cause the African American community and the police to NEVER have a good relationship. This is old news. There was literally no point in time in history where black people and cops got along. This is just the chickens coming home to roost.
Ok, HONESTLY, this is the first time I navigated into a comment section that wasn’t filled with drivel and nonsense: great dialogue
i am literally so glad this man is doing this omg hes changing the world for the better thank you so much please continue and i hope god blesses you so much like you deserve !!
Proximity/care, distance/fear. That’s truth.
Agreed
@Drake pendragon oh no, being called a gentrifier is literally the worst thing in the world, omg
Proximity = distance, they are the same thing, closeness is a distance, distance is the measure of space between things, proximity close or far is a distance between things.
@Drake pendragon you don’t know what gentrification is.
@@crazyfakar1 you must not have understood the context of what Acho said when HE talked about the proximity/distance. Yeah, they are the same thing, but you’d have to be an idiot not to understand what he meant when he said it. You should watch the video instead of trolling the comment section. But thanks for the vapid take.
We need more of this. People avoid uncomfortable conversations bc they can't do so respectfully. The officers here were candid and I respect that they asked how to better police and connect with the black community. Also the fact that for the majority they realized defund the police wasn't an attack on them. It was a call for help for them. The radicals changed the narrative but these officers understood.
As a Christian, Conservative, Republican, Corrections officer. This made me put down my walls. Thank you!
I love this comment!!! It’s important to start that conversation!
Wtf does being Christian have to do with being racist?
Its been too long since I've seen such a genuine attempt to understand one another. We need more of it. Much more.