Glad to see new content. Do you need to cut a ridge vent on a detached unheated garage when you roof over? Currently we have a 10 year old 24x24 and the shingles are in good shape. The reason I ask is that at the ridge, all the trusses have been blocked between with 2x4’s Thanks
If the vent is not going to really function that it's probably okay to skip it. In general, I install vents pretty much everywhere, regardless of the particulars of the building as it may do some good to vent even a little bit.
Question. I plan on doing steel over my existing shingle roof. I have one area of concern where a previous owner had removed a chimney but just outside of the house and shingled over it. It still there on the inside and over time warm air has risen and caused condensation to build up and slowly rot the roof boards. there is a low spot in the shingles. Should I leave it and just go over it with the perloins and steel or rip out the shingles in that area and redo the roof boards??
If you live in an area with prone to hurricanes or tornadoes, what specs for the screws do you have for attaching the purlins to the original roof to make sure it stays on in 100+mph winds? Length and type of screw? Truss screws? Stainless stee? What type of screw do you use to attach the metal roof sheets to the purlins?
Can you put ¾ foamboard between purloins, ice and water at eaves and valleys and tack felt over everything? Any leak that did occur would stay above purloins and run out. I am considering stuffing a piece of dura vent in the ribs only on the bottom. Let the steel breathe a bit And let any moisture out
The way you cut open the top of the roof decking and and dont install a gasket later on when you put the ridge cap on does that eliminate the need for installing roof vents?
So if there is existing shingles, would you recommend installing synthetic paper on top of the shingles, then your 1x4 on top of the paper or is the paper redundant since there’s shingles already?
Thank you for your quick descriptions without a bunch of blah blah. subscribed. Question: if you are extending the roof, is it okay to not deck it with OSB, provided you use the 1x4 or 2x4s ?
If you live in Florida be prepared to have leaks after about 7-8 years. The grommet washers wear out and the screws leak. Spend the money to have an architectural shingle roof put on. Been in the business 26 years. If you put on a metal roof make sure it's a standing seam with no exposed fasteners.
I live in the cloudiest part of Ohio our uv rays aren't near as intense the rubber washers on the screws last longer up here. It's so cloudy up here they built an army base here in WW2 so spy planes can't photograph it lol
Respectufully: we've been installing these roofs in Georgia for 25 years and if they are applied correctly, the screws can last for decades. Eventually though, you will need to replace the screws.
They will if you use cap screws. They are designed with a metal cap that covers the entire rubber washer. But they are 3 times the cost of regular screws.
@@sterileneutrino2288 Roofers in Florida go the cheap way. They slam it on and your problems are your problems in 8-10 years. But I have seen them used. Problem is the home owner doesn't have a clue.
The furring strips over existing shingles is a good idea, but I see you're showing 2x4s. Right?? So then that shortens the height of pipe vents, which I suppose would throw that part out of code. Right?
My issue is I have 8 box vents 4 on each slant in the center running along the roof. Then 3 ridge vents across the roof. I want a metal roof. But I can't find any info on removing the box vents or keeping them for the new roof. I'm looking at removing the shingles.
I never use treated lumber. The chemicals in the lumber can corrode the screws and the underside of the metal. Plus, the wood shouldn't be getting wet!
What if you have water leak on roof and shingles damaged. Should the shingles be removed prior to metal roof install. Board under shingles could be rooten from water leak and need replaced
Tear that section of shingles off and replace the roof deck. Any other course of action will result in mold in the attic and possibly a large hole in the roof.
How are you going to put solar panels on it if your roofing over the top of the shingles like that? Isn't that going to make it easily dented if you ever have to walk on it for maintenance?
Why don’t you also put vertical battens from bottom to top that sit on rafters, that way there would be much more air flow in combination with horizontal battens?
I think you should be able to get away with 3"... I think people use 4" material to make it easier to hit the boards with the screws without worrying too much about accuracy... I could also be very wrong.
I think a small depression shouldn't be a problem. By the time you install the wood purlins and metal, most small deflections will disappear. In any event, most dips in the roof affect only the appearance of the roof and not the function.
the problem with wood perlins is water collects around screws and on the perlins and rots the wood if you use perlins only use ceadar or cypress they wont rot and your metal roff wont fly off the add. for a roofing co. shows them putting meatal roofing directly on roof deck no perlins
I struggle with the idea of whether or not I should strip my shingles prior to installing a metal roof. Once stripped, I think it may be easier for me to install the metal roof. Easier fit up and such. Conversely, I like the idea of furring strips tying into my trusses. My deck is old 1x8's. I think I'll strip it then seal it up with that synthetic blue stuff. That will buy me time to get it done.
I have the same decking as you, and I definitely will strip off my single layer of shingles first. I like the idea of getting all that extra weight of the shingles off the roof, then put down the 1x4 furring strips. I know my roof has some waviness to it, so I can shim under the furring strips and get things leveled up better, before putting on the metal. Also, like you, I want to use a good sealing underlayment below the furring strips because I know this isn't going to be a quick project for me, and I don't want to be stressing out about water penetration from rain while I'm working on it.
Keeping the shingles on means you're adding additional weight to your roof and frame. I'd insist on removing the asphalt shingles and get several tons of weight off the roof and frame.
Putting a metal roof over shingles defeats the purpose of the metal roof, a metal roof is lighter than a shingle roof, by installing a metal roof over shingles you now have the weight of the shingles and the weight of the metal on the roof. Do it right and remove the shingles, that is the only way to be sure there is no plywood damage/rot and you can properly install peel and stick water barrier under the metal roof and you get the benefit of the lighter metal roof putting less stress on the roof structure.
26 gauge is adding 3/4 lb per SQ ft plus what little weight from the 1x4s. Not enough weight to negatively affect the roof. The shingles already have a vapor barrier under them plus the shingles themselves act as a barrier. Leave the ends of the strips open on the gable ends for better airflow and shell last long time.
Take off all roofing to the roof boards. Make sure the surface is smooth and free of old nails. Then go ahead and install your metal roofing right over the clean existing roof boards. Bob your uncle.
Wrong, you need to install a peel and stick water barrier before you install the metal panels. This will keep water from penetrating the underside of the metal roof and rotting the plywood.
@@joe-hp4nk thanks for clarifying that you don't install metal roofs. Nothing is going to penetrate the roofing but you'll see condensation forming on the underside of the metal from moist air.
No it isnt a good idea, even with good ventilation this new metal roof will lose it's color prematurely, and by the way single strapping isnt good, you gotta go both ways
Excellent and easy to understand for a DYI guy like myself .
I definitely want to know about finishing around a chimney and the edges of the roof.
Interesting recommendation about the use of purlins.
The music takes the edge off. Sometimes I take things too seriously. Thanks for the wealth of information.
Glad to see new content. Do you need to cut a ridge vent on a detached unheated garage when you roof over? Currently we have a 10 year old 24x24 and the shingles are in good shape. The reason I ask is that at the ridge, all the trusses have been blocked between with 2x4’s Thanks
If the vent is not going to really function that it's probably okay to skip it. In general, I install vents pretty much everywhere, regardless of the particulars of the building as it may do some good to vent even a little bit.
Very helpful information thank you so much
What about underlayment over top of shingles and then the purlin strips before the metal application?
Question. I plan on doing steel over my existing shingle roof. I have one area of concern where a previous owner had removed a chimney but just outside of the house and shingled over it. It still there on the inside and over time warm air has risen and caused condensation to build up and slowly rot the roof boards. there is a low spot in the shingles. Should I leave it and just go over it with the perloins and steel or rip out the shingles in that area and redo the roof boards??
Can you tell if the roof deck is in good condition without removing the existing roofing?
I would say go under the attic. The damage should be visible from there.
Do you have any videos on hip cap installation at the top?. For instance, a wrap around porch connected to a hip roof
Love your videos.
If you live in an area with prone to hurricanes or tornadoes, what specs for the screws do you have for attaching the purlins to the original roof to make sure it stays on in 100+mph winds? Length and type of screw? Truss screws? Stainless stee? What type of screw do you use to attach the metal roof sheets to the purlins?
Can you put ¾ foamboard between purloins, ice and water at eaves and valleys and tack felt over everything? Any leak that did occur would stay above purloins and run out. I am considering stuffing a piece of dura vent in the ribs only on the bottom. Let the steel breathe a bit And let any moisture out
Would it be worth it to put a layer of tar paper over top of the shingles before installing the wood purlins?
No, seems like a waste of time adding a layer of asphalt to a layer of asphalt.....
Great content, love your channel!
The way you cut open the top of the roof decking and and dont install a gasket later on when you put the ridge cap on does that eliminate the need for installing roof vents?
That is a ridge vent he cut in. There is a gap between the panel and ridge cap that site can escape
So if there is existing shingles, would you recommend installing synthetic paper on top of the shingles, then your 1x4 on top of the paper or is the paper redundant since there’s shingles already?
I think the paper is redundant. The old shingles will serve as an adequate vapor barrier beneath the metal roof.
Quick and to the point. Do you have videos on how to tie ridges together?
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Are the purlon strips attached to wver rafter or evwry other? Hard to tell in the video.
Thanks
I'd go every rafter just to be safe.
Thank you for your quick descriptions without a bunch of blah blah. subscribed. Question: if you are extending the roof, is it okay to not deck it with OSB, provided you use the 1x4 or 2x4s ?
Do you need to remove all the existing drip edge?
If you live in Florida be prepared to have leaks after about 7-8 years. The grommet washers wear out and the screws leak. Spend the money to have an architectural shingle roof put on. Been in the business 26 years. If you put on a metal roof make sure it's a standing seam with no exposed fasteners.
I live in the cloudiest part of Ohio our uv rays aren't near as intense the rubber washers on the screws last longer up here.
It's so cloudy up here they built an army base here in WW2 so spy planes can't photograph it lol
Respectufully: we've been installing these roofs in Georgia for 25 years and if they are applied correctly, the screws can last for decades. Eventually though, you will need to replace the screws.
@@RoofingIntelligence Respectfully screws do not last for decades in Florida.
They will if you use cap screws. They are designed with a metal cap that covers the entire rubber washer. But they are 3 times the cost of regular screws.
@@sterileneutrino2288 Roofers in Florida go the cheap way. They slam it on and your problems are your problems in 8-10 years. But I have seen them used. Problem is the home owner doesn't have a clue.
Which direction should i run stringline to level my urlins when there is a big sag in roof
The furring strips over existing shingles is a good idea, but I see you're showing 2x4s. Right?? So then that shortens the height of pipe vents, which I suppose would throw that part out of code. Right?
can you walk on the roof when on purlins?
Yes
What state are you in?
Can 1x4’s instead of 2x4’s hold the screws securely?
Typically 1x4 are better so the the screws for the metal go through them and into the original roof deck, really helps to hold everything down
1x4's work great.
My issue is I have 8 box vents 4 on each slant in the center running along the roof. Then 3 ridge vents across the roof. I want a metal roof. But I can't find any info on removing the box vents or keeping them for the new roof. I'm looking at removing the shingles.
should the wood strips be treated lumber?
I never use treated lumber. The chemicals in the lumber can corrode the screws and the underside of the metal. Plus, the wood shouldn't be getting wet!
a lot of manufacturers it vertical firing under the horizontal furing
Is it okay to fill the gap between purlins with insulation panels (ie sandwich insulation panels between the composite shingles and metal roof)?
Following, hopefully they answer soon!
What if you have water leak on roof and shingles damaged. Should the shingles be removed prior to metal roof install. Board under shingles could be rooten from water leak and need replaced
Tear that section of shingles off and replace the roof deck. Any other course of action will result in mold in the attic and possibly a large hole in the roof.
How are you going to put solar panels on it if your roofing over the top of the shingles like that? Isn't that going to make it easily dented if you ever have to walk on it for maintenance?
the panels are pretty sturdy for walking on. I always advise standing on the areas with the screws so as to be directly on top of a purlin.
Do you offer work shops
Can I use 3/4” plywood strips?
I don't wee why not.
Why don’t you also put vertical battens from bottom to top that sit on rafters, that way there would be much more air flow in combination with horizontal battens?
Do you absolutely need 1x4 or 2x4 strips or can you use "strapping" (1x3)?
I think you should be able to get away with 3"... I think people use 4" material to make it easier to hit the boards with the screws without worrying too much about accuracy... I could also be very wrong.
cedar good wood for Florida bugs
How much of a little depression in the deck is acceptable to not have to shim?
I think a small depression shouldn't be a problem. By the time you install the wood purlins and metal, most small deflections will disappear. In any event, most dips in the roof affect only the appearance of the roof and not the function.
the problem with wood perlins is water collects around screws and on the perlins and rots the wood if you use perlins only use ceadar or cypress they wont rot and your metal roff wont fly off the add. for a roofing co. shows them putting meatal roofing directly on roof deck no perlins
No gap under your furring strips will cause wood rot and metal rust
I agree
Can I just say you look like the actor in the Mr Bean movie!😊
Everything was good practice in this video yo to when they screwed through the flat part of the metal sheeting that part was pathetic.
I struggle with the idea of whether or not I should strip my shingles prior to installing a metal roof. Once stripped, I think it may be easier for me to install the metal roof. Easier fit up and such. Conversely, I like the idea of furring strips tying into my trusses. My deck is old 1x8's. I think I'll strip it then seal it up with that synthetic blue stuff. That will buy me time to get it done.
I have the same decking as you, and I definitely will strip off my single layer of shingles first. I like the idea of getting all that extra weight of the shingles off the roof, then put down the 1x4 furring strips. I know my roof has some waviness to it, so I can shim under the furring strips and get things leveled up better, before putting on the metal. Also, like you, I want to use a good sealing underlayment below the furring strips because I know this isn't going to be a quick project for me, and I don't want to be stressing out about water penetration from rain while I'm working on it.
I agree. Take off the shingles if you have the time and energy to do so.
What do you use for nailing or screwing down the purlions(strips) onto the roof? We use to use Long Pole Barn Nails - Like 5 inchers back in the day?
We typically use 3" gun nails. I get the hot dipped galvanized ring shank nails. You could also use a 3" deck screw.
1x3s?
Keeping the shingles on means you're adding additional weight to your roof and frame. I'd insist on removing the asphalt shingles and get several tons of weight off the roof and frame.
Putting a metal roof over shingles defeats the purpose of the metal roof, a metal roof is lighter than a shingle roof, by installing a metal roof over shingles you now have the weight of the shingles and the weight of the metal on the roof. Do it right and remove the shingles, that is the only way to be sure there is no plywood damage/rot and you can properly install peel and stick water barrier under the metal roof and you get the benefit of the lighter metal roof putting less stress on the roof structure.
26 gauge is adding 3/4 lb per SQ ft plus what little weight from the 1x4s. Not enough weight to negatively affect the roof. The shingles already have a vapor barrier under them plus the shingles themselves act as a barrier. Leave the ends of the strips open on the gable ends for better airflow and shell last long time.
Take off all roofing to the roof boards. Make sure the surface is smooth and free of old nails. Then go ahead and install your metal roofing right over the clean existing roof boards. Bob your uncle.
Wrong, you need to install a peel and stick water barrier before you install the metal panels. This will keep water from penetrating the underside of the metal roof and rotting the plywood.
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 That's stupid, nothing is going to penetrate the metal roofing..
@@joe-hp4nk thanks for clarifying that you don't install metal roofs. Nothing is going to penetrate the roofing but you'll see condensation forming on the underside of the metal from moist air.
@@chriskalisiak5005 My old roof boards are spaced and the screws go through the flat. There's no air under the metal roofing to gather moisture.
@@joe-hp4nk good luck with that metal roof with no air gap.
Love your videos. Could do without the music
Hate the music, detail and voice important.
No it isnt a good idea, even with good ventilation this new metal roof will lose it's color prematurely, and by the way single strapping isnt good, you gotta go both ways
Using the whole top of the roof as a hidden vent? Genius.
After 10 years the same shirt 😁😁😁
Timeless!