I disagree. It's true that they can fly pieces faster so they can put pieces even with delayed decision but fast decision making as DAS player can cut it. Look at Alex and Svavar. I wonder how other top players will do on this. EDIT: it just happened that the two of the best players in the world that did well here are hypertappers. Koryan and Joseph are phenomenal players. Friday is also a hypertapper but look at the result. Not taking anything away from her though. Her hypertapping is great as well.
@@shapowlow I think hypertapping gives a slight advantage at least, because it's more important for DAS players to move the pieces before they're even on the screen and knowing the next piece is an important for that
@@shapowlow But hypertapping won't slow someones decision making when they can't see the next piece. It's like if we had a reaction speed contest but your controller has 10ms input lag. My reaction speed is ~200ms, so sure, you could beat me by having 190ms reaction speed... but your controller is clearly putting you at a huge disadvantage and you'd be better off without the delay.
@@8bit_pineapple i didn't get that. Reaction time and decision making are 2 different things and you seem to have stated in that comment that all players can make perfect decision all the time and reaction time is the only difference maker. I like that you view the top players as gods but they're not. Decision making is a huge part of tetris. Hypertapping does not make you a good decision maker. The only advantage hypertappers have is they have bigger window to decide since they can move pieces faster than DAS allows. If a DAS player can decide faster than them, their advantage is basically evened out. EDIT: I'm not taking away anything from hypertappers. They are AMAZING. That's why there's so few of them out there. I just said what I said because you seem to say hypertappers are waaaay advantaged over DAS players. They're not. They have advantage on piece movement and time window on decision making but decision making skills itself is key to playing the game successfully. Hence Jonas being a 7 time champ and 2 time 2nd placer
Normally when I watch Tetris championships, I know that if I was there, I'd never stand a chance. This time, I think I'd manage quite well. I learned without the next box.
you can clearly see, koryan looks at the piece he gets, works out where it should go, and hypertaps it there to the best of his ability (in many ways this is similar to level 29 play in terms of time to get a piece where it needs to go). On the other hand, DAS players have to charge DAS in the direction that they need a piece most, then try to fit what they get into the stack. This really distinguishes hypertapping from DAS.
This is so stressful, maybe it's just me but even when I'm just watching, not having a next piece box makes me really uncomfortable. Kudos to all the players for making it that far. :P
There is a guy in the background around 8:53 who is shaking the cartridge in the NES in order to get the game to work. Many of us who grew up with the NES know what I'm talking about. They can relate to that pain.
@@jhawk2402 Lol, if that ever happened, players would only score a few points by holding down on the d-pad before topping out, and clearing a single line would win any game. Don't know about Joseph tho...
Pushing the down arrow can speed up the drop speed of a piece. That also adds some points to your score. So in a fast game like this that ends on a tie, someone might press down near the end to break the tie.
It would have been more unfair because then whoever is ahead, you can just look on their screen. They would have to put up a physical barrier to prevent peaking.
@@Malamockq Uhh.... I mean would you really have much time to look at the other screen, and progression wouldn't be the exact same even when starting together because of line clearing. That's how tournaments are actually played out. Just watch the 2018 tetris championship of jonas vs joseph.
@@freeze459 Yes it was an explanation. It's to prevent a player from getting an unfair advantage from peaking. If you have a counter argument, it is totally pointless to argue with me over it. I don't make the rules. If you have an issue, TAKE IT UP WITH THEM.
Oh come on. Can't DAS player just hypertap for a couple of times? You can't just rely on that slow automatic moving when in a hurry, especially in this case when you can't precharge the DAS.
Yeah Alex is cool and solid player,hes still elite,but im affraid that dang crazy hyper tapping will beat even a master non hyper tap player 8 out of 10 times,but Alex can still get like 2nd or 3rd place next few years hopefully.he should make a channel.
I think these should've been best of seven matches, with how the games were short, and it would've given the players a chance to adapt to the style of play.
Idk but I think starting these matches at level 17 might really turn this into something. Tetrises would feasible without being crazy lucky. Maybe if this version gains some interest first.
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It’s funny seeing pros score how I normally do on level 18
You just need to see the next piece
Das is literally useless in this mode
4:50 "We may have a tie..."
*PRESS DOWN*
"WOAW!"
A new era of Tetris when pressing down can look amazing. New meta.
Hypertapping has such a huge advantage over das in this format
I disagree. It's true that they can fly pieces faster so they can put pieces even with delayed decision but fast decision making as DAS player can cut it. Look at Alex and Svavar. I wonder how other top players will do on this.
EDIT: it just happened that the two of the best players in the world that did well here are hypertappers. Koryan and Joseph are phenomenal players. Friday is also a hypertapper but look at the result. Not taking anything away from her though. Her hypertapping is great as well.
@@shapowlow I think hypertapping gives a slight advantage at least, because it's more important for DAS players to move the pieces before they're even on the screen and knowing the next piece is an important for that
@@shapowlow But hypertapping won't slow someones decision making when they can't see the next piece.
It's like if we had a reaction speed contest but your controller has 10ms input lag. My reaction speed is ~200ms, so sure, you could beat me by having 190ms reaction speed... but your controller is clearly putting you at a huge disadvantage and you'd be better off without the delay.
@@8bit_pineapple i didn't get that. Reaction time and decision making are 2 different things and you seem to have stated in that comment that all players can make perfect decision all the time and reaction time is the only difference maker.
I like that you view the top players as gods but they're not. Decision making is a huge part of tetris. Hypertapping does not make you a good decision maker. The only advantage hypertappers have is they have bigger window to decide since they can move pieces faster than DAS allows. If a DAS player can decide faster than them, their advantage is basically evened out.
EDIT: I'm not taking away anything from hypertappers. They are AMAZING. That's why there's so few of them out there. I just said what I said because you seem to say hypertappers are waaaay advantaged over DAS players. They're not. They have advantage on piece movement and time window on decision making but decision making skills itself is key to playing the game successfully. Hence Jonas being a 7 time champ and 2 time 2nd placer
@@sitasin6545 yup. That i agree with. Slight advantage yeah, but not huge advantage.
"How did you get to round 2???"
Oh I won 000004 to 000000
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Strange to think that Alex is almost a decade older than Joseph! They both look around the same age.
and that's just because he shaved, in 2017 he looked way older
Excuse me what
The strange case of Alex Kerr. The guy, who doesn't age at all.
@@wohlhabendermanager Lol! It sure looks that way...
Wow, I guess that’s one reason I suck ag tetris... I never look at the next piece
Joseph made the other players look pretty amateurish.
agreed!
He does that in normal games too. :D
His opponent also blew the rest of the players out of the water.
Agreed, except for Koryan/Kouser who also held his own like Joseph.
DAS has huge disadvantage when playing with no next box
I love Koryans "boom tetris for jeff" shirt
Don't you mean Kauser
Koryan? He's not in this tournament.
Shit u rite
@@shapowlow kauser is koryan, he didn't use his name
@@gohan7727 Whooosh
Normally when I watch Tetris championships, I know that if I was there, I'd never stand a chance. This time, I think I'd manage quite well. I learned without the next box.
i love it when jonas commentates :D
Yep
Joseph is really good at this, if that skill translates into normal Tetris he could maybe even win a world championship 1 day...
Ikr he MIGHT even beat the champ
IDK, he still young. He will need 10 years to beat Jonas.
VideoGames Genius whoosh
1 day...1day...
@@salumtummundi9462 r/woooosh
Why does it say JDMFX?
I know on Joseph’s streams it says JDMFX_ but I thought at the CTWC he used Joseph as his name?
SodiumOverdose i think this is before the world championship, so probably they register themself twice before each tournament
Probably coz this is just for fun. Koryan also registered as Kouser. I believe in some exhibition matches, Alex uses Kitaru
I'm ShaPowLow oh thanks
SodiumOverdose because they choose what is displayed
D.ACubingGamer was just wondering why he chose JDMFX tho
Now we see how good Joseph really is... He's insane
Need part 3 ASAP! Love it
They need to play the same board. It's not a fair playing field in such a short game.
It's just for fun, nothing's at stake here.
You could see what piece is next on your opponent game
you can clearly see, koryan looks at the piece he gets, works out where it should go, and hypertaps it there to the best of his ability (in many ways this is similar to level 29 play in terms of time to get a piece where it needs to go). On the other hand, DAS players have to charge DAS in the direction that they need a piece most, then try to fit what they get into the stack. This really distinguishes hypertapping from DAS.
This Joseph guy looks really good, hope he will go on and win the championship. /s
That was a jk right? xDD He won it against Jonas.
@@alucardnolifeking789
Joseph win? Nah, I don't think he'll go very far.
@@alucardnolifeking789 whooosh
Joseph has a channel look it up
trolls. xD
Is that Jonas with the commentary
Yep
Yep
Yep
Yep
Yep
"Players cant see the next box"
me: i dont even look at the next box
I couldn't stop watching the guy in the back struggle to get the game to load. Then the smug kid comes over and tries some ninja moves on it lmao
Is koryan using hauser's wig that quaint gave to him
yes. he also weared glasses.
@@awawpogi3036 wore*
The Dream of points was...
There but the reality...
Never settled in.
A Haiku by J. Neubauer
That’s not a proepr haiku
This is so stressful, maybe it's just me but even when I'm just watching, not having a next piece box makes me really uncomfortable. Kudos to all the players for making it that far. :P
I like how at 8:58 it changes from Kouser to Kauser
What a great game between Joseph and Alex. Very impressed at level 18.
There is a guy in the background around 8:53 who is shaking the cartridge in the NES in order to get the game to work. Many of us who grew up with the NES know what I'm talking about. They can relate to that pain.
Next week: No Next Box tournament with level 19 starts
In two weeks: No Next Box tournament with level 29 starts
@@jhawk2402 Lol, if that ever happened, players would only score a few points by holding down on the d-pad before topping out, and clearing a single line would win any game.
Don't know about Joseph tho...
Wheres the next episode?! I need it
I started to focus on the guy at 8:25. He really didn't want to resort to the blow but eventually tries it
Hahahaha Kouser😂😂😂 im dying, even with the boom tetris for jeff shirt, koryan the ultimate troll😝
Round 3 plz
What happen in 4:55 ? Why the score suddenly different?
Pushing the down arrow can speed up the drop speed of a piece. That also adds some points to your score. So in a fast game like this that ends on a tie, someone might press down near the end to break the tie.
@@joeanthony7085 i see, Thank you.
BOOM! Tetris for Kauser!
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Kouser
When’s part 3?
different rng seeds for this tourney?
not using the championship cartridges
what level 29 tournements will look like
its pretty clear from this already that joseph would win the tournament. alex did well but joseph is on another level entirely.
You haven't seen if he wins this one yet :p
I'd love to see this in the main tournament!!
Same RNG for both may have made it more fair I guess, if possible. Seems like a nice format. I'd bet guys like Joseph will be training on this mode 😀
It would have been more unfair because then whoever is ahead, you can just look on their screen. They would have to put up a physical barrier to prevent peaking.
@@Malamockq
Uhh....
I mean would you really have much time to look at the other screen, and progression wouldn't be the exact same even when starting together because of line clearing. That's how tournaments are actually played out. Just watch the 2018 tetris championship of jonas vs joseph.
@@freeze459 Why are you telling me this? I'm just explaining why the RNG is different. If you have an objection, take it up with the organizers.
@@Malamockq i was making a counter argument....
That wasn't explaining it was an argument being made. No hard feelings.
@@freeze459 Yes it was an explanation. It's to prevent a player from getting an unfair advantage from peaking. If you have a counter argument, it is totally pointless to argue with me over it. I don't make the rules. If you have an issue, TAKE IT UP WITH THEM.
why it so difficult to see them both on the screen
Oh come on. Can't DAS player just hypertap for a couple of times? You can't just rely on that slow automatic moving when in a hurry, especially in this case when you can't precharge the DAS.
When is round 3 going to be uploaded
Aw was this all of them or will there be a part 3? xD
wow alex and josiph are getting comfortable with this game mode pretty fast
Joseph has the hypertapping advantage, anyway Alex did great job
Koryan + Hauser = Kauser
Where is part three??
I will never know did that magic wave fix the blinking NES in the background.
Lmao I didn't knew that you could see the next piece until level 15 FeelsBadMan
Little did they know, the soon to be champ was standing behind them.
I can see songscout back there!
Boom, Jonas Tetris!
Wait... Did Joseph win both this and the main event?
Yay Alex! My favorite player, it’s a bummer he has to go up against Joey tho but I hope Alex makes a channel
Nice Jonas commentary
Yeah Alex is cool and solid player,hes still elite,but im affraid that dang crazy hyper tapping will beat even a master non hyper tap player 8 out of 10 times,but Alex can still get like 2nd or 3rd place next few years hopefully.he should make a channel.
Danny Hicks I 100% agree and it’s kinda sad but I suppose that’s how every sport works(yes I say sport cuz esports is a thing now so eh)
I wondered how well they would do
It's weird how the mistakes are mostly because of misdrops rather than not figuring out what the next piece is..
That was really fun to watch! 😁
Saludos desde Perú. Uno de los pocos fans del tetris en Sudamérica!
Waa pará somos varios
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Único y detergente.
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What ya’ll niggas talking bout?
this is so fun to watch
next part coming out in 2 weeks
In this mode you need one Tetris and then you can chill
What were you doing frank??
Why did Joseph change his name?
Jdmfx VS Alex
The battle of my crushes!! 🤣
Shame we didn't have the golden team (Jonas and Heather) commentating, that would have been beautiful. But this was so fun
what? they're the commentators of this video. check the description
Svavar looks like a professional killer.
That "shit" on 1:09
why koryan changed his name?
What Happened To Jonas??? I thought he said he was coming back this year???
Lol didn’t notice Kaiser was koryan until now 😂
Joseph played some really clean tetris.
3:23 Svavar haha
4:50 vea doctor Bilardo, usted estaría orgulloso.
Laughed when I saw Kouser
I really wonder how far Joseph could go if he didn't top out on purpose.
I think these should've been best of seven matches, with how the games were short, and it would've given the players a chance to adapt to the style of play.
Joseph vs Alex 5:15
hey hey where’s round 3
Svavar moves a lot this vid
Idk but I think starting these matches at level 17 might really turn this into something. Tetrises would feasible without being crazy lucky. Maybe if this version gains some interest first.
'KAUSER' lmao
Harry Hong would be proud of Justin
Do invisible tetris next please
Joseph is so cute watching others
I cant help but feel like I'd beat any of them at this game mode. I hardly ever looked at the upcoming piece and did rather well.
lol i realised that koryan named kauser cause he wore hauser's hair and glasses
Who else never relied on seeing the next piece while playing tetris?
under 301 squad where you at? heh, remember the squad? nobody forgets the squad
nobody
boom tetris for kop
lmao I always play without looking at the next piece I would school them in tetris
What is this, speed dating Tetris?
Is this a joke? Why cant anyone make it past the 20 sec mark?
Kauser this is son Korean?
Svavar sounds very American for being from Iceland
Koryan who?
That's definitely Kauser
Porque Justin tenia 4 puntos??
alex looks like silverchair frontman.
what was ben doing? its like he didn’t know how to play the game
Lets see killscreen at No Next Box,
joseph seemed disappointed
Looks as if anateurs were playing xD