Another Smash Cheater Caught and Banned

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  • @Littled0013
    @Littled0013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    He had an SDI Macro and still gets comboed lol. Honestly he needs it.

    • @Yarharsuperpirate
      @Yarharsuperpirate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It just proves that those who rely on cheats, tend to suck at the game

    • @totalcomedyisland1355
      @totalcomedyisland1355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      his macros suck lol sdi wont work if youre sding the way you shouldnt be it you could sdi into get true combod cos you got the wrong sdi

    • @GiftfromGod333
      @GiftfromGod333 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fox Up tilt IS THE MOST PUSSY MOVE

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +358

    This series is so entertaining and informative it ALMOST makes me wish for more slippi cheaters. I mean I don't want that but I want more videos lol.

    • @topemeister3000
      @topemeister3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is slippi

    • @miguelbravo8906
      @miguelbravo8906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@topemeister3000 a multiplayer mod for melee

    • @topemeister3000
      @topemeister3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@miguelbravo8906 Thank you, brother

  • @myboy_
    @myboy_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +772

    Crazy that even with a superhuman sdi macro his defense still stinks

    • @epitome8639
      @epitome8639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      In a way it makes sense though. Instead of practicing defensive techniques like everyone else they just rely on a computer to do it for them, so they don’t put in the effort of learning good defense or neutral

    • @jaw2835
      @jaw2835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      goat take 🐐

    • @myboy_
      @myboy_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jaw2835 you're my goat jaw

    • @BURRDAWG_
      @BURRDAWG_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cheaters are typically really trash at the game they cheat in. I've 1v1d a cheater in a csgo aim map when he turned it off and it was 15-0 i won. He turned it on 8-15 I lost.

    • @drsipp407
      @drsipp407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@myboy_ you’re my boy

  • @imalsoTOMATO
    @imalsoTOMATO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +749

    Still boggles my mind how people cheat in a mod for a 20 year old game. Insanity.

    • @Swagtildawn
      @Swagtildawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      Still boggles my mind why you would even want to cheat in a game like this. You aren't going to win any money or recognition or anything. Just a weird ego trip.

    • @ParagonPKC
      @ParagonPKC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I think some people like to tinker? Just my two cents

    • @versenh.1982
      @versenh.1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Swagtildawn they probably want to see how people react online

    • @blackeroni
      @blackeroni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      People will always crave power and domination in all facets of life.

    • @turkeyman631
      @turkeyman631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@versenh.1982 but there’s not even a chat… seems pointless that they’re both hoping someone notices they’re cheating and makes a TH-cam video about it.

  • @mistaecco
    @mistaecco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    In general I try to keep away from this sort of video since it tends to fill my recommendations with "SCAMMER EXPOSED" and "GLOVER SPEEDRUNNER CHEATS - WORSE THAN HITLER" for about a month. I'm making an exception in this case because I knew you'd do a great job of explaining the quirks that make melee melee, and I can't help but love that. Thanks for doing what you do!

    • @Miitsu222
      @Miitsu222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yo link to that glover vid

    • @thegameandwatch2799
      @thegameandwatch2799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YT says you can delete the video from your watched history and it shouldn't recommend similar videos after that

    • @AkramSaheb
      @AkramSaheb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@thegameandwatch2799 my question is how do you cheat worse than hitler? How did hitler cheat ?? He was a bad person but did the third reich have some sort of a+b a+b start or something.... or wolooloo to spawn soldiers

    • @bimgus5808
      @bimgus5808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We need the Glover vid

    • @666crippled666
      @666crippled666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They lied about electric floors, shrunken heads, thumb lightswitches, nipple wallets, skin lampshades, giant freezers, masturbation machines, cages with bears and eagles, and more. What makes you then believe in their gassings claim?

  • @LWDIII
    @LWDIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    “Basically it’s a defensive technique that’s…really hard to execute. By a human anyway” *laughs in Wizzy*

    • @JohnCena-ep2mz
      @JohnCena-ep2mz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm pretty sure I saw a forked tongue when he was sipping in between sets

  • @ianstedman8672
    @ianstedman8672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Exposing how cheaters cheated on tape and shaming them for it is a big step in the right direction to making the problem stop and I applaud you for it.

  • @turndownforwalt
    @turndownforwalt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    This is like true crime for Slippi and I'm fully here for it

    • @2600AltF4
      @2600AltF4  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    • @twelvevoltage
      @twelvevoltage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seriously imagine cheating on unranked and still getting combo'd XD

  • @CharlotteMimic
    @CharlotteMimic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    If anyone has a BRKL#540 in their region, consider extending this ban to irl events! Hardware SDI macros are likely to work on GameCube/Wii as well.

    • @kered13
      @kered13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't matter if he ever cheated in person or not, he cheated and that's grounds for a ban. Sadly unless this guy is a total idiot I doubt anyone will know who he is.

    • @curtana373
      @curtana373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      i bet he is finnish

    • @OhSoTiredMan
      @OhSoTiredMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesn’t matter if it is hardware or software because it’s still gonna read the inputs either way.

    • @strangejune
      @strangejune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@OhSoTiredMan Dolphin macros don't work on a Wii.

  • @ArcadeStriker
    @ArcadeStriker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    *g u r v a n*
    Aside from my endless amusement at the genius idea of having the name always spelled out with an audio over your narration, its very interesting to see you cover something like this; thought that the last time I would see Melee cheating was in that AsumSaus video about the guy that had a memory card with a beefed-up secret Pichu and brought it to tournaments (but got caught)

  • @Jake19774TW
    @Jake19774TW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    It's even funnier when you realize that having consistently perfect SDI would make you predictable and when your opponent figures that out you'd be even easier to combo then if you just did it yourself

    • @SufferDYT
      @SufferDYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      More like it doesn't matter if you have perfect sdi if you don't know how to use it.

    • @RTU130
      @RTU130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @Eldoofus
      @Eldoofus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Macro SDI is only truly dangerous when used by someone who already knows how to SDI by his own.

    • @shoyupacket5572
      @shoyupacket5572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      such is the beauty of melee

  • @thargimpaler
    @thargimpaler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Absolutely love these breakdowns! You make this highly technical subject so easy to understand, and entertaining as well!

  • @Naito9874
    @Naito9874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was like "Gurvan is definitely french" and then noticed the audio file was called dimanche (which is french for sunday)

  • @NonRandomUser
    @NonRandomUser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Sadly for BRKL, there's no programmable macro to GIT GUD.

  • @donwald3436
    @donwald3436 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Programmers: "I wrote a program."
    Python programmers: "I wrote a Python program."

  • @SSB_Seal
    @SSB_Seal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Popped off for the Nikki cameo

  • @onewingedakuma6835
    @onewingedakuma6835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That sudden ai voice that says Gurvan’s name is hilarious and gets me every time

    • @JLMetak
      @JLMetak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's not an AI that's Gurvan's actual voice.

  • @CasuaICole
    @CasuaICole 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    It's quite interesting to see the skill difference of smash DI cheaters. I remember there being a peach that was doing the same thing. Although they both had the power to escape any combo they ever wanted, they both manage to somehow get in worse situations than if they were SDI'ing, or even DI'ing normally. What's even the point of using macros if you don't know how to use them to gain an advantage? Just play the game normally.

    • @skyninegaming
      @skyninegaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Melee feels like the strangest game to cheat at for me. I could understand really brutal inputs like the new subfloat turnip z drop to pull turnips as fast possible, and maybe perfect ledgedashes, but those can make or break a tournament game and so easy to tell if you're cheating IRL

    • @xdeathcon
      @xdeathcon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@skyninegaming melee is a weird game to cheat at because you either have to be actually good to get any use out of your cheats, or you have to automate so much of the game that it's exceedingly obvious and you're barely doing anything on your own. I wonder if this case was more along the lines of someone just being curious to see if they could do it

    • @xdeathcon
      @xdeathcon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @vaLy Different games require you to have different levels of skill to be harder to find. In something like csgo, you can tune cheats to be rather hard to spot with even a mediocre skill level because of how the whole game functions as opposed to something like melee, where it's much more difficult to get positive results from cheating

  • @belladonna_fox
    @belladonna_fox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I’d love to see a graph with boxx/F1 inputs to see how consistent they are. Also wizzy’s wank di would be cool to see go through the script

    • @ln8496
      @ln8496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Most top melee players havent caught up to the weakest smash 64 players in terms of sdi

    • @marzipan7755
      @marzipan7755 ปีที่แล้ว

      B0xx only allows for like 2 sdi inputs
      Wank DI on a gcc is busted by comparison
      Not sure if Frame1 carries the same sdi nerf that b0xx does tho

    • @belladonna_fox
      @belladonna_fox ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marzipan7755 it does not

  • @aidanakbar1789
    @aidanakbar1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love how even with an SDI macro bork still cannot escape combos at all

  • @link0192
    @link0192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I actually had no idea you could get Banned on Slippi that’s crazy lmao

  • @freddyjdukes
    @freddyjdukes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    to catch this cheater, you must analyze them getting owned by someone else

    • @myboy_
      @myboy_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Well no matter how many macros he has he still sucks at melee

    • @spintowin8971
      @spintowin8971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@myboy_ that'd make it fun

  • @lightbrand_
    @lightbrand_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really struggle to understand the point of even having such a macro

    • @kingd8m
      @kingd8m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Because people get frustrated losing over and over again in a game thats over 20 years old. They desperately chase the dopamine release that is winning, regardless of whether theyre actually building skill

  • @dungeonscrew491
    @dungeonscrew491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the MTG lands in the background, the Unglued lands had amazing art and is still some of my favorites

  • @chiyo-chanholocaust8143
    @chiyo-chanholocaust8143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how we've reached a point where playing games can be easily analysed through scientifically method

  • @SJQVlogs
    @SJQVlogs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I got canceled on the smash subreddit for reporting slippi hacking in August of 2021. To see you dissect these inputs in these videos is bizarre, because everyone refused to believe someone was using a macro to cheat on unranked.

    • @alan_e_
      @alan_e_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, imagine being in the FPS scene were the majority of pros are using humanized undetectable aim assists and using basic hardware cheats to continue cheating in LAN. You'll be told to "get gud" even though you still top .1% in the game without cheats.

    • @BURRDAWG_
      @BURRDAWG_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alan_e_ Dan m is that you!

  • @diegomacias5872
    @diegomacias5872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love that Mr. Robot shirt. Didn’t know they made them.

  • @WTI96
    @WTI96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The only thing I have to say for this
    “Dang, you’ve had nearly 20 years to get into the pro level legitimately, and you decided to cheat at a 20 year old game. That’s sad asf.

    • @giospage
      @giospage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You thought the creator was gonna see this comment and pin it huh? You it quoted and all

    • @WTI96
      @WTI96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@giospage huh? I didn’t even quote anyone, I just said what I said

  • @Ricky_Grade10
    @Ricky_Grade10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have never played smash but for some reason I find your video fascinating and impossible to stop watching. Wish more competitive games had people like you.

  • @ThirtyfourEC
    @ThirtyfourEC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    These are always a treat.
    GG Bork. These give me high hopes for ranked.
    Would it be possible to implement an input cap so players get automatically banned from online play? Maybe just flag players at the very least before ranked comes out?
    In certain games developers use speed caps to tell if players are cheating. Half Life has a speed cap for forward movement, not backwards. Certain MMOs have a acceleration cap where unnatural acceleration results in an instant ban or suspension.

    • @2600AltF4
      @2600AltF4  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Basically, yea. The same basic metric shown here will be there to identify these kinds of macros.

  • @ShadowMewto
    @ShadowMewto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could watch this man read a phone book.

  • @Greywander87
    @Greywander87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I saw the input spazzing, my first thought was that it could be a faulty controller. If there's a busted wire or a faulty connection to the stick, it could, for example, cause it to read wildly random inputs if e.g. you point the stick in a specific direction. I actually had an issue kind of like that on one controller, except all it did was that pointing the stick up wouldn't read as going full up. This caused issues where trying to move forward in some games would cause my character to start walking instead of running, or rapidly switch between running and walking. Anyway, based on the analysis later in the video, it looks like the input spazzing is not, in fact, random, and is quite regular, so yeah, probably cheating.

  • @urcommonlad6358
    @urcommonlad6358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An education on smash online cheating techniques is just what i needed this morning. Thank you AltF4.

  • @ohcomeon1111
    @ohcomeon1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This prob happens a lot more than we think

  • @roguewizahd
    @roguewizahd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    another great video 👍no wasted space v well edited

  • @GrimHC
    @GrimHC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whenever a video is edited with microsoft paint it makes it so much easier to understand for me

  • @JioLLLL
    @JioLLLL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i can't believe he was banned just for being better. hopefully one day we can see justice for this honest man

  • @RC-mx5du
    @RC-mx5du 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the thumbnail. Banned for Jumpsquat

  • @DrPepsidewWBO
    @DrPepsidewWBO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unrelated but I love your magic land posters in the back
    Beautiful, that's my favorite Island

  • @Memerath
    @Memerath 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:33 me when i'm trying to play melee but my pet earthworm keeps having seizures on the analog stick

  • @jebusdiabetis
    @jebusdiabetis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First time watching channel, love the lands

  • @StalinkTz
    @StalinkTz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what is even the point of cheating on freaking melee online? there isn't even a ranked mode and no one really is watching you so your not gonna impress anyone. that's kinda sad tbh

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clout and streams

  • @Maxime-ng7kd
    @Maxime-ng7kd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There you have it folks, Gurvan is French

  • @oveia4671
    @oveia4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who has never played Melee and barerly saw any tournaments, where do I start playing? Maybe just starting in sleepy? Any tips on how to play the game?

  • @yiayiasboy6312
    @yiayiasboy6312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Screw the netplay falco, whats that yawgmoth decklist lookin like 👀

    • @2600AltF4
      @2600AltF4  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tappedout.net/mtg-decks/30-04-22-yawgmoth-combo/ :)

  • @atomsk01
    @atomsk01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy story!
    I'm a fan of those Magic; the Gathering land posters in the background too

  • @dbap4155
    @dbap4155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool series keep it up.
    Quick question about how slippi is tracking mmr regarding quit outs, if a player quits out does that effect mmr of the players?

  • @thatdude3977
    @thatdude3977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This confirms how top player are so good also. Check the controllers. That panda 5000 controller DW has is kinda insane.

    • @abcder733
      @abcder733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, Arthur's sister is cracked

  • @mjl167
    @mjl167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Random, but I absolutely love your SM64 paintings in the background. I wasn't aware that such macros were a thing so this interested me.

  • @paol3642
    @paol3642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The french accent when saying gurvan was priceless lmao x)

    • @paol3642
      @paol3642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gregoryford2532 Well yeah I can tell since I'm french myself x)
      There's also a little joke in his slippi tag "Aime Touquet" which in french sounds like "M2K"

  • @Rom0.5
    @Rom0.5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm pretty sure I ran into this guy last time and was pretty suspicious about his SDI !

  • @apacheking7256
    @apacheking7256 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro was really out here spazz di'ing

  • @ROYBGP
    @ROYBGP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are those MTG full art land postersin the background? That's sick

  • @outcast12345
    @outcast12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one thinking that the line between cheat and Hardware mod is very vague? You could almost say a smashbox is cheating...

    • @outcast12345
      @outcast12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emoimo4171 you can press way more directions on a smashbox than with a stick objectivly to smash di

  • @alphamew1773
    @alphamew1773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    unrelated to the video, but where did you get that set of unhinged basics posters? I've been wanting either those or the unstable set for a while

  • @awsomesaucers97
    @awsomesaucers97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm interested in what the actual values are of the non-one peaks and dips shown at around 5:10. When I first saw them, they seemed far too regular to me to have been caused by polling rate issues. Not to mention that the values they appear to take seem very close to 0.707, or 1/sqrt(2). If these are the analog x and y inputs, wouldn't those inputs be corresponding to a 45 degree or other diagonal input? This would make sense to me as many of the programmed SDI input seemed to include diagonals.

    • @awsomesaucers97
      @awsomesaucers97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gregoryford2532 I'm not entirely sure, I'm just going off how he says "they don't exactly hit the peaks every single time" at around 5:20, I assumed he meant the spikes that don't reach a full 1 value. Not sure though, would like to hear from him to see what he meant originally

    • @Gurvanson
      @Gurvanson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah we thought it was out of sync, but actually it's likely just diagonal inputs.

    • @wtf17727
      @wtf17727 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can also program error into a bot.
      I bet there are bots already that are indistinguishable from real players, you just have to have a lot of patterns and some inconsistency.

    • @awsomesaucers97
      @awsomesaucers97 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wtf17727 that's a good point, I had considered that but at the time of the upload I guess I didn't think the person making the bot would think that deeply. Although it's certainly possible consider how few lines of code it would take to put slight inconsistencies into the final inputs.

  • @mrt8bit692
    @mrt8bit692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Altf4, I'm currently learning python and would love to take a look at the source code to the python script you used if you wouldn't mind!

  • @DifferentNerd
    @DifferentNerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Gurvan” 😂😂

  • @vivecanada1
    @vivecanada1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Love the John Avon lands on your wall, looks BA.

  • @lejaarmy
    @lejaarmy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love those John Avon unhinged lands

  • @epicgamer5122
    @epicgamer5122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    love these videos

  • @TehFoamy
    @TehFoamy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Unhinged land art on the wall 👌

  • @Nikkerman
    @Nikkerman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should post more of these, I think a slippi cop is needed to put cheaters into their place

  • @kapothegod
    @kapothegod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    completely unrelated but where’d you get that mr robot shirt👀🔥

  • @xxwallzxx4509
    @xxwallzxx4509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know there are fast players out there with the joystick. Esam is one of those. He also takes pride on it at times. Not sure if there would be people who can reach that level of speed. But there also might be. But it is something said from a person who doesn't know himself on how fast people can actually get with a joystick.

  • @Hyde472
    @Hyde472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My immediate assumption was he was using one of the box controllers rather than a gamecube controller.

  • @vicentesanchezjr.3877
    @vicentesanchezjr.3877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    He's just a z-jumper. He's not cheating haha

    • @cryosen
      @cryosen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      He just has a really good gaming chair

    • @vicentesanchezjr.3877
      @vicentesanchezjr.3877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@cryosen that too

  • @KuhEssen
    @KuhEssen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If there are ever hard line cut offs where a program can catch this, the criminals will just go directly below the cut off. Tough to catch all the cheaters

  • @lemonviper
    @lemonviper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why anyone would cheat in this flipping children's party game is beyond me.

  • @Zillahgds
    @Zillahgds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The John Avon posters are so nice when theyre that size

  • @netsofdeath
    @netsofdeath 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Repping the Evil corp shirt. Mr. Robot doesn’t get enough love.
    Also, Great vid!

  • @Nicknyte
    @Nicknyte ปีที่แล้ว

    Instant Sub. Love you forever AltF4, bans and all.

  • @monorail0
    @monorail0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video! Do you have any ideas behind the greater intent of the cheater? Like do people try to use these mods in tournament and they are testing them on Slippi? Seems like a lot of work to go through for a hardware mod.

    • @2600AltF4
      @2600AltF4  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Only speculation, but people tend to cheat when they feel like they "deserve" it. Bork is clearly a mid-level player who has spent a considerable amount of time playing Melee, and tries to cheat to skip ahead.

    • @NeZCheese
      @NeZCheese 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2600AltF4 Yup. People don't cheat to become better players, people cheat to become better players faster.

    • @riluna3695
      @riluna3695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some other mindsets I can imagine would be:
      1) Cheating to break a frustrating skill plateau
      2) Considering their own clever "workarounds" as part of the "skill" they use to win
      3) Wanting to see their name on top of the leaderboards and forgetting that morals exist
      And perhaps others. There's never just one reason people do things, even if one reason is far more common than the others.

    • @asdffff9677
      @asdffff9677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      macros are generally banned in tournaments but no controller rules are enforced, so if someone wanted to, they could use an SDI macro at a super major. It just hasn't really happened yet.

    • @asdffff9677
      @asdffff9677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, they are definitely using a box style controller to do this, which is much easier to program for perfect SDI than creating a gamecube controller mod of your own and installing it.

  • @adangelo
    @adangelo ปีที่แล้ว

    love these breakdowns but the unlabelled chart axes are driving me insane dude

  • @JAPARICAN50-50
    @JAPARICAN50-50 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This sounded like trigonometry

  • @alistairknightsly440
    @alistairknightsly440 ปีที่แล้ว

    so just out of curiosity what if mans was playing on a smashbox and just had the inputs

  • @doctordice2doctordice210
    @doctordice2doctordice210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I despise melee with a burning passion, but i liked this video man!

  • @mattjrk5679
    @mattjrk5679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is 2022. If you’re not cheating you’re not trying in competitive gaming

  • @krabborg4454
    @krabborg4454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool vid but I kept looking at the full art Lands behind you, do you play MTG?

  • @puunk_9240
    @puunk_9240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couldn't this be achieved with programs like joy2key and autohotkey? Doesn't have to be modded into a gamecube controller, from my understanding.

  • @hydra4370
    @hydra4370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    while this is obviously cheating, it looks more like an unskilled player using an SDI macro to make up for their poorer performance.
    They probably thought "if it's possible humanly, it shouldn't matter if I do it digitally", but the smash community and especially melee is all about natural feats/ and integrity.
    I think it's ultimately meaningless because it's an online ladder but should obviously never be allowed locally.
    Some people are more focused on the end result, and not the hours of grinding it takes to get there naturally.

    • @JaneViolet_
      @JaneViolet_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But the cheated SDI they're using _isn't_ humanly possible. It's not just putting them on the same level as top humans, it's going well past it.

  • @rogue2shadow
    @rogue2shadow ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro your content is super interesting.

  • @spartanlink_047
    @spartanlink_047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First video, nice Unstable land cycle artwork.

  • @coolerthanafrieza4726
    @coolerthanafrieza4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am i the only laughing his ass off every time he used the sample the guy sent him of his name??? 😂😂😂

  • @cluelesscardgamer
    @cluelesscardgamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not about semen being banned or not, it's about wanting to FEEL naughty and like I'm sticking it to the man

  • @crunchywater1178
    @crunchywater1178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New to the channel, good vid

  • @1harlo
    @1harlo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Welcome to melee, u should play the game it’s actually a lot of fun” NOT IF UR NEW TO MELEE 💀

  • @Luuklin
    @Luuklin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good analysis, not sure I'm convinced this is a macro running on hardware though. Macro programs tend to struggle to keep their inputs synced with a game's framerate, seems this could just be something like AutoHotKey to me.

    • @ohcomeon1111
      @ohcomeon1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's that?

    • @calebrobinson6406
      @calebrobinson6406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im no computer science major, but it sounded like if you use software to introduce a macro then controller polling isnt an issue?

    • @Luuklin
      @Luuklin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calebrobinson6406 Macro programs create the same artifacts because they usually can't make exactly one input per frame reliably. Sometimes they'll make two inputs in a frame (only one of which will register) or they'll make one input last two frames. We can't really know if this is a macro program issue or if it's a controller polling issue from the replay file.

  • @lilscantron
    @lilscantron ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Mr. Robot reference :)

  • @tr0ylol
    @tr0ylol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:32 the brow I cant

  • @andrewallstar2719
    @andrewallstar2719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice John Avon Unhinged basic posters!

  • @JackOfAllRAIDs
    @JackOfAllRAIDs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "...when you want to hit the right stick on the controller..." Hits the left D-pad button. Maybe I need to AltF4 this window.

  • @jay1724
    @jay1724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t see the plains art in the background but I know it’s their seeing the island, swamp, mountain and forest

  • @gpmegaman
    @gpmegaman ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you consider he was using smashbox? He would be able to get inputs quite faster than your controller.

  • @hispookyburrito
    @hispookyburrito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The second I heard about performing perfect frame inputs in a online match that can have input lag that's when this got crazy.

    • @Spunney
      @Spunney 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No input lag in rollback :)

  • @chipklip2
    @chipklip2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    those mario 64 paintings are cool

  • @susiebaka3388
    @susiebaka3388 ปีที่แล้ว

    the first minute of this video had my dying lmao

  • @TimJimBuam
    @TimJimBuam ปีที่แล้ว

    Getting punished for good DI is a damn shame

  • @TheHookemhornman
    @TheHookemhornman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Hit the right button” 😅

  • @jarvisfriesen7735
    @jarvisfriesen7735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this man is doing God's work