Without the complete picture there are connections you cannot make logical conclusions about. I'm just worried that by the end of the series there are still no logical conclusions.
So much that she's immediately willing to leave her mother and her home forever? I couldn't buy that. I also couldn't buy Mae instantly flipping to "I'll kill you."
That's more or less how every child got indoctrinated, I mean, recruited into the Jedi Order. Except, at four years old instead of eight when they have even less knowledge about the world.
Thanks, Mikey! Thanks, Joe! 🌑 I'm thoroughly enjoying how the mystery is unfolding. I find this new Force coven fascinating. They are similar to but distinct from Nightsisters. I expect we'll see more flashbacks to fill in the gaps, at some point.
Joe's right; something dirty went down before the fire started. Was it the Jedis' fault? Master Torbin seems to think so or he wouldn't have self-deleted. Was it the witches's fault? Mother Koral was being militant and sketchy the whole time and, importantly, had plenty of alone time with Mae. What we saw this episode was (likely) just Osha's perspective and memories; the showrunner has all but confirmed that they're doing a Rashomon type story. There's a future episode by the same director and I'm betting that we'll get Mae's and/or the Jedis' side of the story then. I'm intrigued to see how it all comes together.
C'mon, guys, they've already showed the Jedi being so guilty that one commits suicide over what happened that night. We saw the version of what Osha saw. I suspect that coincidentally with Mae setting the book on fire, the Jedi entered the building and a battle ensued between them and the witches. Mae probably saw the fight, but Osha didn't. I think we'll get Mae's version later. With Mae saying, "Attack me, Jedi, with all your might," and honestly thinking a Jedi would, I think her version is that the Jedi attacked without provocation. Somehow, though, the initiation of the fight wasn't righteous enough from the Jedi perspective to keep them from not feeling guilty, and they still covered it up (or they didn't cover it up and the entire Jedi order did). I would like to think the story will show that the Jedi were tricked into the attack by the horned mother...but I don't trust these writers. I think they're going to show that the Jedi killed the witches with no provocation...the Jedi are the bad guys in this story. Sol could not know that Mae actually started the fire...how could he tell Osha that?
I completely agree with you, I suspect we'll get Osha turning Sol's words back on him about having the courage to tell the truth because its so ham fisted
@@xDarthSTYXx Oh, please. You want to tell me that the wooden acting by the kids was good? You want to tell me that the dialog was good? I couldn't care less about their sexual orientation or whatever. I just said it was poorly written and poorly acted. Because it was.
and yes this entire series is absolute garbage, its beyond the wokeness.... the writing is awful, acting is bad, directing is lacking, its just all around awful tv.
Lot of controversy around this episode. I liked the witches and their coven (ok, the singing was kinda dumb) and the mother was great. The coven is in exile because they were hunted for "using the dark side of the force", interesting part. The mind occupation was cool. Funny that the planet isn't part of the Republic, yet the Jedi go there and want to "free" the children because they are concerned that a witch coven has some? 🤔 But it obviously wasn't the fire or the generator explosion that killed everyone, need more information please... 🤷♂😡 The 2 children are some sort of force creations? Interesting, I like that. But why would they leave with some Jedi they just met when they didn't meet any other person yet? 😁 Also why would Mae instantly going for killing Osha? lol _dark side blabla_ but no come on, that is stupid. I assume that the 2nd in charge attacked the Jedi and forced a counterattack by the Jedi. But why would they be able to 4 vs 20 them when they can use the force too? Some missing elements, I hope they clear that up later. 👀 Anyways, love the reaction and your discussion! ❤
Disney just shift deleted the birth of Anakin with this episode lol the grand experiment etc was nothing, easy easy easy for some forgotten witches...... ridiculous, they are trying to retcon EVERYTHING George Lucas made
There is no official canonized explanation for Anakin's conception (the two EU sources contradict each other). This show didn't delete anything. It makes the galaxy richer by showing us another culture that interacts differently with the Force.
@@hoos3014 Anakin is space jesus, everyone knows that, he brought balance to the force when he saved his whimpering son and atomized the Emperor. pure facts from the creator himself, nothing can change that, does not matter who own the license, you, me, or disney, all what comes now is fan fiction, expensive fan fiction, but it is just disney fan fiction. And yes it is proven by george lucas and the show he pushed, the clone wars.
@Belnick6666 What, exactly, was retconned? You still can't say. George never said Anakin was the first to not have a father and even then, Anakin was made BY the Force. The Aniseya twins were made USING the force.
my current theory is that the witches started in-fighting and the jedi came into it and the witches liked brain washed them to attack each other or something. This explains why Mae accused them of outright attacking the coven, and it would explain the guilt the padawan felt if he was used by the witches after seeing them all die.
Thanks Mikey & Joe. Seems we've only been given half or so of the mystery. I agree with Joe, it appears that Mae probably did little more than burn the book and start the door fire. The episode gives credence to what Osha believes and to a lesser extent what Sol believes. Everything else is still a mystery. Joe's theory regarding the tree appears quite possible. In the scene where Osha wakes up on the ship it also appears that Torbin had been injured. Also, given the influence this series takes from Kurosawa's Rashomon, I wonder if we'll see another non-split title later called "Choice", contrasting this episode "Destiny", which gives us Mae's half of the story.
My dream that will never happen is that South Park picks apart The Acolyte with the level of depth that they did with the Book of Mormon....dumb dumb dumb 😮
SWT is a man-baby who has tied his entire identity to a character in a fictional space wizard story. You should understand his bias before you use him as a source.
@@hoos3014 you do know what bias mean???? ofc he have bias if he is a fan hahaha, wtf, ofc he is biased and that is why he is the biggest single star wars community online, just because you are jealous of his success and riches from that does not change that fact, lol If a few million people agree on something and few thousand disagree, then it is most likely that the millions are correct. Is it pathetic to link yourself to a single fantasy epic and build your life around that? sure.....but he made it, the other who tried failed, he did not
@@Belnick6666 Grow the hell up. No one is jealous of that piss baby crying about birthdates in trading cards and "bricks and screws". Maybe he brought value to the SW community at one time, but he has fallen to the Dark Side. Instead of talking about the story he takes the easy way out, making money riling up lemmings like you. Don't let insecure losers like him do your thinking for you.
Without the complete picture there are connections you cannot make logical conclusions about. I'm just worried that by the end of the series there are still no logical conclusions.
children who have never seen a jedi who have no idea who they are or what they do fear them> but want to be them?
So much that she's immediately willing to leave her mother and her home forever? I couldn't buy that.
I also couldn't buy Mae instantly flipping to "I'll kill you."
That's more or less how every child got indoctrinated, I mean, recruited into the Jedi Order. Except, at four years old instead of eight when they have even less knowledge about the world.
Thanks, Mikey! Thanks, Joe! 🌑 I'm thoroughly enjoying how the mystery is unfolding. I find this new Force coven fascinating. They are similar to but distinct from Nightsisters. I expect we'll see more flashbacks to fill in the gaps, at some point.
joes face the whole time lol
ThE pOwEr oF MaNnNeEeeE😂
Joe's right; something dirty went down before the fire started.
Was it the Jedis' fault? Master Torbin seems to think so or he wouldn't have self-deleted.
Was it the witches's fault? Mother Koral was being militant and sketchy the whole time and, importantly, had plenty of alone time with Mae.
What we saw this episode was (likely) just Osha's perspective and memories; the showrunner has all but confirmed that they're doing a Rashomon type story. There's a future episode by the same director and I'm betting that we'll get Mae's and/or the Jedis' side of the story then.
I'm intrigued to see how it all comes together.
C'mon, guys, they've already showed the Jedi being so guilty that one commits suicide over what happened that night. We saw the version of what Osha saw. I suspect that coincidentally with Mae setting the book on fire, the Jedi entered the building and a battle ensued between them and the witches. Mae probably saw the fight, but Osha didn't. I think we'll get Mae's version later. With Mae saying, "Attack me, Jedi, with all your might," and honestly thinking a Jedi would, I think her version is that the Jedi attacked without provocation.
Somehow, though, the initiation of the fight wasn't righteous enough from the Jedi perspective to keep them from not feeling guilty, and they still covered it up (or they didn't cover it up and the entire Jedi order did). I would like to think the story will show that the Jedi were tricked into the attack by the horned mother...but I don't trust these writers. I think they're going to show that the Jedi killed the witches with no provocation...the Jedi are the bad guys in this story.
Sol could not know that Mae actually started the fire...how could he tell Osha that?
I completely agree with you, I suspect we'll get Osha turning Sol's words back on him about having the courage to tell the truth because its so ham fisted
I'm okay with the possibility that the twins were a single being that has been split.
Did Mike see this poorly written and poorly acted episode coming and dip? Well played, sir.
Your homophobia is showing
@@xDarthSTYXx I think some people are in denial of the poor writing and poor acting and start calling people names for I don't know why....
@@xDarthSTYXx Oh, please. You want to tell me that the wooden acting by the kids was good? You want to tell me that the dialog was good? I couldn't care less about their sexual orientation or whatever. I just said it was poorly written and poorly acted. Because it was.
@@xDarthSTYXx bro the fact you make a comment like that speaks words about your character, make a logical argument.
and yes this entire series is absolute garbage, its beyond the wokeness.... the writing is awful, acting is bad, directing is lacking, its just all around awful tv.
Lot of controversy around this episode. I liked the witches and their coven (ok, the singing was kinda dumb) and the mother was great.
The coven is in exile because they were hunted for "using the dark side of the force", interesting part. The mind occupation was cool.
Funny that the planet isn't part of the Republic, yet the Jedi go there and want to "free" the children because they are concerned that a witch coven has some? 🤔
But it obviously wasn't the fire or the generator explosion that killed everyone, need more information please... 🤷♂😡
The 2 children are some sort of force creations? Interesting, I like that. But why would they leave with some Jedi they just met when they didn't meet any other person yet? 😁
Also why would Mae instantly going for killing Osha? lol _dark side blabla_ but no come on, that is stupid.
I assume that the 2nd in charge attacked the Jedi and forced a counterattack by the Jedi.
But why would they be able to 4 vs 20 them when they can use the force too?
Some missing elements, I hope they clear that up later. 👀
Anyways, love the reaction and your discussion! ❤
I don’t like how this series is saying the Jedi are evil. So disappointed with this show
Disney just shift deleted the birth of Anakin with this episode lol
the grand experiment etc was nothing, easy easy easy for some forgotten witches......
ridiculous, they are trying to retcon EVERYTHING George Lucas made
There is no official canonized explanation for Anakin's conception (the two EU sources contradict each other). This show didn't delete anything. It makes the galaxy richer by showing us another culture that interacts differently with the Force.
Feel free to explain how. You can't tho.
@@hoos3014 Anakin is space jesus, everyone knows that, he brought balance to the force when he saved his whimpering son and atomized the Emperor. pure facts from the creator himself, nothing can change that, does not matter who own the license, you, me, or disney, all what comes now is fan fiction, expensive fan fiction, but it is just disney fan fiction. And yes it is proven by george lucas and the show he pushed, the clone wars.
@@xDarthSTYXx which? what George Lucas himself have said? essentially the GOD of star wars? you claim he is wrong ? lol
@Belnick6666 What, exactly, was retconned? You still can't say. George never said Anakin was the first to not have a father and even then, Anakin was made BY the Force. The Aniseya twins were made USING the force.
my current theory is that the witches started in-fighting and the jedi came into it and the witches liked brain washed them to attack each other or something. This explains why Mae accused them of outright attacking the coven, and it would explain the guilt the padawan felt if he was used by the witches after seeing them all die.
Absolutely. Kelnacca's claws have to be how Torbin was blinded in one eye.
If Anakim was "too old" the twins are "too old".
And as they already made clear, her age was definitely a problem for some. Way to ignore things that they said fucking out loud
Thanks Mikey & Joe. Seems we've only been given half or so of the mystery. I agree with Joe, it appears that Mae probably did little more than burn the book and start the door fire. The episode gives credence to what Osha believes and to a lesser extent what Sol believes. Everything else is still a mystery. Joe's theory regarding the tree appears quite possible. In the scene where Osha wakes up on the ship it also appears that Torbin had been injured.
Also, given the influence this series takes from Kurosawa's Rashomon, I wonder if we'll see another non-split title later called "Choice", contrasting this episode "Destiny", which gives us Mae's half of the story.
Definitely a badly written episode. The death of the coven makes no sense for a fire. And it makes no sense that the Jedi would kill them.
The thread manifestation is purple; the nightwish magic is green
onto another!~ (when it drops tomorrow) big hype though!~
My dream that will never happen is that South Park picks apart The Acolyte with the level of depth that they did with the Book of Mormon....dumb dumb dumb 😮
You're ridiculous
Star Wars Theory channel made a summery of this episode, how horrible it was and how it was not star wars etc
SWT is a man-baby who has tied his entire identity to a character in a fictional space wizard story. You should understand his bias before you use him as a source.
Theory is a hack.
@@hoos3014 you do know what bias mean????
ofc he have bias if he is a fan hahaha, wtf, ofc he is biased and that is why he is the biggest single star wars community online, just because you are jealous of his success and riches from that does not change that fact, lol
If a few million people agree on something and few thousand disagree, then it is most likely that the millions are correct.
Is it pathetic to link yourself to a single fantasy epic and build your life around that? sure.....but he made it, the other who tried failed, he did not
@@xDarthSTYXx You are a hack
prove me wrong
Guilty until proven innocent, how it goes in USA, right?
@@Belnick6666 Grow the hell up. No one is jealous of that piss baby crying about birthdates in trading cards and "bricks and screws".
Maybe he brought value to the SW community at one time, but he has fallen to the Dark Side. Instead of talking about the story he takes the easy way out, making money riling up lemmings like you. Don't let insecure losers like him do your thinking for you.
this show is so awful