Real People of Shin Megami Tensei: SMT Lore

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  • @Tony4You
    @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Join the discord: discord.gg/KfEKUZDnpn
    Leave any video suggestions and thoughts in the comments here!

    • @Ushi_archive
      @Ushi_archive ปีที่แล้ว

      Can we get a video of all the different censorships made in different versions of megaten games?

    • @Chidon0
      @Chidon0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      theres more irl people as demons in smt id like to see covered most are from persona 2 like rasputin faust etc

    • @toibonniemedia1894
      @toibonniemedia1894 ปีที่แล้ว

      This may seem out of nowhere but, can you do a video about: what if FNAF was in smt. You can do any character from any game or book in any smt game.

  • @Pystoria
    @Pystoria ปีที่แล้ว +905

    Deirdre said "I can fix him" and did lmao

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +214

      They said it couldn't be done. What good morals does to a mfer

    • @TheGachaGourmand
      @TheGachaGourmand ปีที่แล้ว +83

      this proves that people has access to redemption, should they try hard enough.

    • @xcell_r4thr87
      @xcell_r4thr87 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      I thought the trope of a woman wanting to have a child with a guy the first second they meet only happened in harem animes, Crowley was truly the main character of his time.

    • @brennanlable
      @brennanlable ปีที่แล้ว

      magic pussy

    • @cerebrustusbordungolski7183
      @cerebrustusbordungolski7183 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@xcell_r4thr87 Seinen MC who starts out pure, experiences tragedy, illness and becomes corrupted from a negative character arc, only to be redeemed by serendipity during the third and final arc.

  • @Reno_user
    @Reno_user ปีที่แล้ว +729

    Honestly I really love demons who are based on real people because they have a certain scary charm to them and send a chill down my spine but still it's fascinating how sick people are represented in SMT.

    • @Reno_user
      @Reno_user ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @Smash 123 Messiah? What about him?He the representative of Jesus in Megaten.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Oh absolutely, the real people are more frightening than any monster or legend. Research for this video was some of the most difficult to read of any I've done before

    • @Reno_user
      @Reno_user ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Tony4You I can't even enter jack the ripper's Wikipedia page so it would be a pain to be searching for the nightstalker origins who I thought was just a regular demon based on basically every night stalker which is already terrifying by it self.

    • @nr2676
      @nr2676 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Smash 123 There is Jesus in SMT Devil Summoner 1995 - Agony.

    • @krimsonkatt
      @krimsonkatt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Smash 123 Jesus is already in SMT though he's known as "Messiah" there. Muhammed will never be in SMT because even Atlus knows that depicting Mohamed in a visual format, especially as a "demon," will offend literally every Muslim on the planet and practically give them a death sentence from radical jihadists. South Park literally almost ended because they were planning a "Jesus VS Muhammad" episode that got so much backlash from Muslims in particular that they got like 30 major bomb threats from multiple major terrorist groups so they had to cancel the episode and put the show on hiatus for their own safety.

  • @GenkiGirl12
    @GenkiGirl12 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    Wow Alistair Crowley really lived his life in opposite extremes disturbing but fascinating

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +51

      For some people it's all or nothing, extreme is all they know

    • @no_opinion1065
      @no_opinion1065 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ay chill nightstalker 2

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Bro switched teams twice.

    • @miguelatkinson
      @miguelatkinson ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Moderation is key I guess

    • @desinteres7698
      @desinteres7698 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      crowley the escapegoat of magic 🤭

  • @Jack-lo5me
    @Jack-lo5me ปีที่แล้ว +829

    It’s so weird how Crowly’s life reads like an actual biblical story or parable-
    A child of god that went astray, enough to be called the beast of revelations. But even to a man such as that, God would give another chance, sending an “Angel”. And once he took The Lord’s mercy, he was blessed with loyalty, family, and love. For himself, and for God.
    Seriously, it sounds like an actual Bible verse.

    • @TheBrutalSax
      @TheBrutalSax ปีที่แล้ว +83

      It’s very similar to the story of the prodigal son

    • @renren47618
      @renren47618 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Indeed, his story really felts like a biblical story in such a way that i was like "WHAT" in the end

    • @gamercow4297
      @gamercow4297 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@renren47618 sounds like he got humbled toward end

    • @redshepherd32
      @redshepherd32 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      That one woman was more of a miracle worker than most of the stuff that Crowley preached.

    • @alejandromagnobarrasa9244
      @alejandromagnobarrasa9244 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Instruct a child in the way He should go and He will not depart from it when he is older. It was what I felt when knowing what happened to his Father. It was sad, but glad that it didn’t end in prosperity for him, but just as His Father wanted living simply as a family man in his old age. In truth all of it may have come from the simple fact that his father would speak blessings with his own mouth but fill the mouths of others with poison. I’d rather be dead at 12 and faithful to Him that made me then reform, but again He would have healed me. Like he did many others that became missionaries and preachers of that time. Wait for the woman that God chooses for you much sin is in the careless partaking of bodies.

  • @AfroThunda999
    @AfroThunda999 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    The Crowley/Master Therion story was really interesting, but Night Stalker's real life influence was straight up disturbing

  • @windofchaosblows
    @windofchaosblows ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Yoshitsune is actually based on real person as well, even if ancient historical hero rather than something more recent, his story is quite interesting too, Yoshitsune Minamoto played a crucial role in war between Minamoto and Taira clans he was extremely skilled swordsman and strategist and oftenly considered the only reason why his clan succeeded, he ended up betrayed by his brother and exiled since his brother feared that Yoshitsune can take power for himself, growing even more paranoid of now exiled Yoshitsune he send his troops after him which forced Yoshitsune and his family to commit seppuku, so yeah Yoshitsune is pretty interesting character with tragic backstory and the main reason why he is a demon in the series is because of the two legends about him, first states that he trained under tutelage of tengu and second says he took revenge on his brother from beyond the grave appearing before him as a ghost and causing him to fall from his horse

    • @snailthelostcow63
      @snailthelostcow63 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And of course his infamous eight boat leap (hassou tobi) as well. Probably the main reason why some believed he truly was trained under a tengu

    • @FFXI_Addict
      @FFXI_Addict ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@snailthelostcow63the Tengu stories began when he was around 16 years old? If I recall? Before his induction into the Minamoto clan, he was training with monks in various disciplines. It was swordmanship he not only excelled at, but seemed too talented for his age. One version of the story goes that some monks were watching his training and asked each other "did you teach him how to do that?" "No," one replies, "I thought you were teaching him." "No. I thought you were."
      Nobody seems to know who taught him his swordmanship specifically. If we go on a purely scientific route, he had a hard life and such children tend to become ultra-perceptive. It's likely he simply watched and mimicked what he saw, and since he was young with pliable bones, he created his own methods of fighting amalgamated from all the monks he observed.
      But it was easier to ascribe the unknown to deities in that era. In a way, it's a bit sad that children are so looked-down upon that the only way it made sense for people was to say a demon trained him, because nobody could accept a child being better than them.

    • @Evil_Florida
      @Evil_Florida 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Don’t forget masakado

    • @davidgeorge1943
      @davidgeorge1943 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait, that's what his signature skill means.

    • @basurama555
      @basurama555 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Guan Yu, Jeanne D'arc, Tenkai, and pretty much most of the Famed race are based from actual person

  • @Elite_Teach
    @Elite_Teach ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Man this was fascinating, I feel like Nightstalker is an amalgamation of all the 80’s-90’s serial killers
    A part of me was very disturbed yet fascinated and your voice made me want to stay till the end
    Great vid

    • @2phonebabykeem913
      @2phonebabykeem913 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      i almost noped out during the recounting of the real life crimes. that shit is pretty insane

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I really appreciate the kind words.
      I can see why true crime is interesting for a lot of people doing a video on it myself.

    • @rzLl_pz5
      @rzLl_pz5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Fascinating", sure

    • @BIacklce
      @BIacklce 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      because the real nightstalker was the most 80s serial killer.

  • @greenhillmario
    @greenhillmario ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Crowley’s story is so much more fascinating than a certain other thing he’s inspired. “Normal summon effect?”

    • @hamd8375
      @hamd8375 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I would ash but you already have invocation

    • @kaiser5731
      @kaiser5731 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@hamd8375 all the time :(

    • @syco7274
      @syco7274 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Who still normals Aleister in the year 2023?

    • @frankwest5388
      @frankwest5388 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@syco7274so no ash?

    • @AndrewBlechinger
      @AndrewBlechinger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this shit is why Ecclesia ran away

  • @kodokunayuki2232
    @kodokunayuki2232 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    I absolutely love this little sub-genre of demons because unlike other demons they could easily make more based on particular people like how SMT2 had a Texas chainsaw Demon. SMT Devil Summoner also had demons such as Hooligan and Rastaman and Patriot who are rather freaky but realistic considering how some people in real life, went from being obscure nobodies to prolific killers

    • @nr2676
      @nr2676 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      And Terminator from SMT 2

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Thanks for the support! The other real life demons are based on extreme ideas like the ones you mentioned, but they are still very interesting to think about yeah. Maybe I will make a follow up discussing them as well

    • @Chidon0
      @Chidon0 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Tony4You theres also crusader from smt1 pc edition

    • @amelialonelyfart8848
      @amelialonelyfart8848 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rastaman iirc was based off the idea of lesser practiced religions being demonized, rather than implyng Rastafari's are dangerous individuals.

    • @youcantbeatk7006
      @youcantbeatk7006 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@amelialonelyfart8848 It seems like none of you get how these games work. "Demons" aren't literal. It's just a catchall term. They aren't all intended to be evil things.

  • @bubbletea_
    @bubbletea_ ปีที่แล้ว +102

    night stalker is horrifying. i thought he was goofy looking at first, but now i think my fight or flight response will go off when i see it next time.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Goes to show how much effort is put into the demons in the series. A seemingly throwaway demon like "bright man in suit" has a horrifying backstory

    • @notproductiveproductions3504
      @notproductiveproductions3504 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People who don’t recognize him will think he has supermodel features. People who do recognize him say “he got dem serial killer eyes”

  • @SSBBPOKEFAN
    @SSBBPOKEFAN ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Another bit about Crowley is that his Thoth tarot deck has seen representation in the Persona series, with the Aeon and Hunger/Lust Arcanas of P3 FES and 4 Golden.

    • @kaelanmcalpine2011
      @kaelanmcalpine2011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I may have seen decks like that in New Orleans or something. I wanted to get it but never did.

  • @The_GhostWind
    @The_GhostWind ปีที่แล้ว +110

    If I had a nickel for each time I see Aleister Crowley being depicted as monsters on one of my favorite monster franchises, I would had two nickels (Megaten with his appearances as himself and as Master Theron and Yugioh with Aleister the invoker and the “invoked” archetype) that’s not a lot, but it is funny that it happened twice.

    • @surehit2496
      @surehit2496 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      3 times if you count the magistus! Crowley does appear there at a young age. It also shows him contacting with the, now fusion monster, Aiwass.

    • @HamazuraGOD
      @HamazuraGOD ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aleister Crowley in A Certain Magical Index is also very mysterious, but his monstrosity is questionable, at least where I'm at in the series. At the very least, he plans on killing every magician and occultist in the world, so that's pretty monstrous

    • @phantomnite
      @phantomnite ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fun fact: crowley also created the academy that appears in the spellbook/prophecy archetype. He appears as a link monster

  • @yphoenix5957
    @yphoenix5957 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I appreciate such dedication to researching the real world counterparts to some of the Demons here! I'm conflicted on Darkstalker now after hearing his meta lore, but his _drip_ is impeccable... Master/Crowly's segment was so fascinating, I forgot this was about SMT Demons, great work!
    I have you to thank for getting me into this series, thanks!

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind words!
      Ultimately my aim is to bring cool stories to light, the effort put into designing these demons is amazing.

  • @superbad8008
    @superbad8008 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’ve watched videos on Crowley before, but never knew he turned over a new leaf later on in life. That’s actually kinda nice to hear.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah it was a nice twist to an awful story. Still a very interesting person though

  • @ImPyroChad
    @ImPyroChad ปีที่แล้ว +1008

    Imagine if the next SMT game drops and you see Chris Chan appear as a demon💀

    • @CyberDragoon656
      @CyberDragoon656 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      Sonichu.
      Species: fiend
      Lvl 19.
      Skills
      Quick stab
      Zio
      Sonicsped
      Zan fic.
      Mirage.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +239

      Bout to drop a full 1 hour Who is Chris Chan video right after

    • @actremix
      @actremix ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck that

    • @TheBrutalSax
      @TheBrutalSax ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Sega gunna tell them to do it too cause they got a grudge over the fact he’s sonichu

    • @CyberDragoon656
      @CyberDragoon656 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@TheBrutalSax Sadly I can agree since I remember something about the sonic boom show making reference to chris-chan.

  • @icaromiranda9981
    @icaromiranda9981 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Alaister Crowley had a huge influence in pop culture, specially the 60's counterculture. He's even depicted in the cover of The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper.

    • @youcantbeatk7006
      @youcantbeatk7006 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you tilt the cover in a certain way and mirror it, it creates a pyramids with Crowley at the top and also creates a penis and a vagina image.

  • @Pegyson
    @Pegyson ปีที่แล้ว +76

    You're telling me a satanistic mental case had a woman approach him but I don't

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I feel that bro... The world is so unfair

    • @choriprouwu
      @choriprouwu ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I wish conception could happen irl.. then I could get cute pixie gf who cares about me

    • @nodzee97
      @nodzee97 ปีที่แล้ว

      Woman love the bad boys…

    • @theking5116
      @theking5116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      time to satanmaxx bro

    • @BIacklce
      @BIacklce 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he looked cool in those sunglasses

  • @daveman6884
    @daveman6884 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    really fucking cool video Tony, if there are any more "real people demons" in smt, I would love to hear about them, your videos are really entertaining and sometimes fascinating

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There's a lot more I left out for the sake of time, so I might make a follow up one of these days.
      Thanks for watching and enjoying!

    • @nykita427
      @nykita427 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are also Guan Yo and Jean D' arc, they are usually demons of Famed Race

    • @duskmoonlight8705
      @duskmoonlight8705 ปีที่แล้ว

      The iconic Jack the Ripper

  • @Christian-gr3gu
    @Christian-gr3gu ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Id love if you make this a series, it would be very interesting

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      There are plenty more demons based off real people so maybe I will make a follow up.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @thekidnexttome1
    @thekidnexttome1 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Man I wish Tony4You was Tony4Real

  • @NickOleksiakMusic
    @NickOleksiakMusic ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I didn't now the bit about Crowley's son! Wow, the guy truly lived the Hero's Journey. He started as a preacher's son, started a religion that went against his upbringing, then eventually came back to his original beliefs in order to set a good example for his kid.

    • @heyweykrutcorbin5005
      @heyweykrutcorbin5005 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      what’s weird is that i can’t find any evidence of crowley’s son anywhere else online. it just says he died in poverty and even tried to curse his doctor before his death

  • @rokka7188
    @rokka7188 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think you should've talked about Gotou from SMT1, since he was based on a real life Japanese extremist, trying to overthrow the government. There might also be other person's related to such in the series.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh that's interesting, I didn't even know about that! I'll look more into it

    • @valletas
      @valletas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If im not mistaken thorman is also inspired by a real life dude

  • @bahamutxero9573
    @bahamutxero9573 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks so much Tony for this video! I knew very little about Crowley other than the small bit Mr. Edogawa mentioned in P4, which was that he was an occultist and summoner. Please do consider covering more of these "real life" demons in a series.

  • @hubhikarilives
    @hubhikarilives ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tony, thanks so much for your SMT videos. I feel like I learn just as much from you as I do from Vaati in the Souls community.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quite an honor to be compared to him! I appreciate you enjoying the vids

  • @Naterkix
    @Naterkix ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of my favorite things in the whole SMT series is the descriptions of the demons/Personas/whatever so I always like stuff like this. I didn't even know those two demons in particular were based on actual people but it makes sense they'd pull demon ideas from everywhere possible even outside of the various myths, religions, etc. the more well known ones come from.

  • @shimapanzer9930
    @shimapanzer9930 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm kind of surprised Mad Gasser wasn't in the vid, he's a personal favorite of mine, and based off of the *potentially* real Mad gasser of mattoon, illinois

  • @orangeblitz4786
    @orangeblitz4786 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Awesome episode. It's crazy to think of how demonic humans can be

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Research for this video unnerved me more than any other I've done so far

    • @orangeblitz4786
      @orangeblitz4786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Tony4You The Richard Ramirez stuff is horrific. Definitely scarred me. I don't recommend looking up the stories or watching documentaries about him.

  • @deltavictor8369
    @deltavictor8369 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would it be the descriptions of violent crime demonetizing the video, or Master Therion's big, uh, "king of wands?"
    Great video, though. I'm totally onboard for more "demons inspired by real people" videos.

  • @KaruHart
    @KaruHart ปีที่แล้ว +8

    disturbing yet fascinating, you've earned a new sub sir!

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated! Hope you'll like the backlog and the videos to come!

  • @SelmanIGhaoui
    @SelmanIGhaoui ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, you're like a real scholar that's so cool

  • @o_oro-q1k
    @o_oro-q1k ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As Richard Ramirez would describe it, Crowley's story is "fascinating"

  • @dragowolfraven3806
    @dragowolfraven3806 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    SMT is my favorite series. Despite all the monsters in video games,movies,anime etc.none of them hold a candle to real people. To me the scariest monsters are human beings.

  • @tsuchinokofamiliar8092
    @tsuchinokofamiliar8092 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was really cool I never realized Aliester Crowley was referenced in Smt like that I remember first learning about him by mistake because I wanted to name a dnd character Aleister and wanted to figure out how to spell it and then I found down the rabbit hole with him. Funny enough the character I was making was also an occultist so it was funny how that all lined up without me knowing.

  • @MetalGamely
    @MetalGamely ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Babe wake up, new Tony4You upload

  • @crow3043
    @crow3043 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    good video, i'm expecting more like that. The details about crowley are more elaborated than many introdutory videos about him. It's aways good to see your essays!

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a lot! I hope to make more like this at some point for sure

  • @killgronia5815
    @killgronia5815 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a true crime and history enthusiast, I love how you post true lore behind games. That is rare content indeed. Feed me more!!!!!!! Lol

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว

      Really appreciate it! I really like this type of stuff too

  • @jameshyphenthekhrp
    @jameshyphenthekhrp ปีที่แล้ว +31

    another exceptional video, always fun to learn more about a franchise i love. while richard ramirez was a horrible man, and the mere thoughts of his crimes sent shivers down my spine, there is an odd feeling of quaintness with Crowley. the man clearly was trying to achieve what he believed was true enlightenment through his own unique ways, chasing that ultimate high in hopes of reaching peak nirvana. it's just a shame that this quest of his was driven by selfishness, and all those he brought to ruin in his wake until he himself sunk to a deep low. still i can't help but to feel a sort of admiration towards the man, though i wouldn't say he's an admirable person if that makes any sense lol

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks a lot for the support.
      The research for this video had to be trimmed a lot to avoid making people in the audience any more disturbed than they had to be.
      Goes to show how horrible people really can be

  • @peacemaker0240
    @peacemaker0240 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This channel is so underrated

  • @o0Hidden0o
    @o0Hidden0o ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just started the video, I’m not sure if the mad gasser will pop up(sometime attributed to being a cryptid), but it’s gotta be my favorite. Looks cool and carried my ass for to zones in both of redux and the og Strange Journey.

    • @o0Hidden0o
      @o0Hidden0o ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn’t :( but it make sense. Fantastic work though!

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There will be more parts to this series in the future potentially. Thanks for watching!

  • @mutavhello6654
    @mutavhello6654 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ramirez was more complex, dude was totally crazy. Once while attacking a women he ripped the lamp out of the wall, the caused the bulb to break and sparks to fly out. Ramirez interpreted this as a message from god not to harm the women, so he left her alone.

    • @youcantbeatk7006
      @youcantbeatk7006 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well he had literal brain damage.

    • @meme_aids
      @meme_aids 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rameriz I think is the perfect example of a genuine schizo. The man had such a weird working belief system, but he was devoted to it.

  • @jasonblundelldobebussing
    @jasonblundelldobebussing ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yoooo, it's like that Podcast "Creepypasta as SMT demons" by Fither. Pretty cool

  • @aortaplatinum
    @aortaplatinum ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is part of why I love SMT. While stories based in fantasy worlds have to establish their lore, since SMT is based in an alternate version of our own reality, understanding SMT lore helps understand real world lore and vice versa

  • @gustyko8668
    @gustyko8668 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, I really had no idea about those two's origins.....specially nightstalker, I thought he was just a generic psycho or something.
    I already knew about the series borrowing from real life figures like Jeanne D'Arc, Cleopatra and so on; but never imagined that they would reference people like those 2.

  • @orngcreator6115
    @orngcreator6115 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You’re a Tony4You fan that watches every video? Well I’m a Tony4You fan that never skips the ads. We are not the same.

  • @theotherccount4481
    @theotherccount4481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to watch twice since it's been a while, commenting for the algorithm

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว

      Both much appreciated! See you in the next video too hopefully

  • @tuckernutter
    @tuckernutter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful vid but still waiting for that Ars Goetia vid,

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot! That video is coming soon I hope. The script has been done for a while, but editing it is rough

  • @RazorBladezX
    @RazorBladezX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need more!
    Great video! Didn't know about this stuff

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The feedback has been great! I might make more of them

  • @franksturino9129
    @franksturino9129 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Richard really was a scary looking dude

  • @NachtKaiser666
    @NachtKaiser666 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wonder if Mad Gasser is also one... It feels like it could be based on a serial killer.

    • @ColtonMiller6012
      @ColtonMiller6012 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Mad Gasser was inspired by the legend of the Mad Gasser of Mattoon, an urban myth that supposedly terrorized the small city of Mattoon, Illinois by spraying victims with an unidentified gas."
      According to the SMT Wiki at least

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He is! There were a lot I omitted for the sake of time in the video, but I might make a follow up in the future

    • @NachtKaiser666
      @NachtKaiser666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Tony4You hey, if there's enough material for a second or even third installment, I can't be the only one who would be looking forward to it!
      And I swear I'm a normal person and not a secret psychopath! 🤣

  • @rampage75_25
    @rampage75_25 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, to quote about serial killers:
    "Demons are understandable. But humans... are just disgusting me"
    - Samael, demons comedy

  • @smokey1188
    @smokey1188 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like the nightstalker accidentally nullifying his sacrifices to satan by branding them with the cross of st peter

  • @nr2676
    @nr2676 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mr Thriller / Micheal Jackson from SMT 2 - best ,,human'' demon

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Shoutouts to SMT 2 full moon club

  • @Heart0Darkness
    @Heart0Darkness ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s always such a treat to see a video of you’re get uploaded.
    Keep up “The Lords Work”
    😂😂

  • @KuRRiiZMa
    @KuRRiiZMa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wake up babe, new tony4you

  • @NeroSeries
    @NeroSeries ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fascinating video

  • @Old_Harry7
    @Old_Harry7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The house shown in the video belonged to Crowley and it's now an abandoned ruin in Sicily which some times hosts local raves, I guess his legacy lives on.

  • @Aivottaja
    @Aivottaja ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting that Crowley actually looked up to his father as a child.

  • @godonomas
    @godonomas ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I kind of had an idea of what kind of person darkstalker would be based on. But the master????? His story is such a rollercoaster of emotions. Damn
    Wish there was at least one more demon in the video though.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There are many more demons I had to cut for time, but maybe I will make a follow-up since they are all so interesting

    • @nickdraco8435
      @nickdraco8435 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Tony4You deeeffffinitely follow up!!!! It's really cool and interesting! Good job!

  • @davidgeorge1943
    @davidgeorge1943 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I recently noticed how a lot of the Personas in Royal, namely the third tier ones, are based on real historical figures: Captain William Kidd, Célestine, Goemon/Gorokichi, Lucy...

  • @jonnycoyote2782
    @jonnycoyote2782 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d love to see more real historical (human) monsters in SMT

  • @KaizenMethod12
    @KaizenMethod12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you have a really good commentators voice. This video was great! Keep it up man, your in-depth analysis is always good.

  • @yochlel2642
    @yochlel2642 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love to see a video about the personas inspired by real people as well, like Caesar from P3 and Captain Kidd from P5!

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I already basically did that with my Meaning Behind the Persona series lol. I think it's a good idea too

  • @freakyzed8467
    @freakyzed8467 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Funny that a philosophy of indulgence and hedonism would be ashamed of its founder for his indulgence and hedonism.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Covering up the bad parts of their lifestyle, even at the cost of their leader's life. What a strange group

    • @freakyzed8467
      @freakyzed8467 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tony4You they needed to change their motto to "Do what thou wilt, but always have a designated driver."

  • @mokakoshi4159
    @mokakoshi4159 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ooooooo new Tony4You vids :D
    btw, i'm really enjoyed to hear each of your videos
    your narrative and how to bring the topics and lore is just very interesing and great
    i'm have 0 regret to give you a subscribe :')

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really appreciate it! I'm glad you enjoy the videos and hope to see you in the next ones to come

  • @alexlepage9456
    @alexlepage9456 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video hoping for more

  • @J.M.-me6ji
    @J.M.-me6ji ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me, Patriot is a rather eerie demon, in terms of both design and concept. Even if the demon is not based on a specific individual, they are an embodiment of how devotion to one's country can be taken to a fanatical (or even violent) degree.

  • @UrzuaTroskenia0369
    @UrzuaTroskenia0369 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Impressive coverage, Richard Ramirez was neglected and groomed into a subhuman, but in all the criminal profile presentations none mentioned the little chinese girl. Crowley not much to say that I haven't researched already, did middle eastern black magik and was in league with the 8th sphere, his protege was Jack Parson whom was on auto pilot, auto assist.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much appreciated! I believe real people deserve the best coverage possible. Especially in true crime I hope I gave a good amount of respect to everyone involved

  • @ParrotMan01276
    @ParrotMan01276 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also True Crime gets interest because it's...well to use the Nightstalker's words "Fascinating". Hearing about how absurd or dark a case is compared to the viewer's normal life almost feels like you are watching fiction...but it's real. It doubles into horror, of course, and can even dip into a thriller if the cases were unsolved.
    I like watching commentated Police Interrogations, Forensic Files, and the occasional documentary. Though I can get exactly why the subject matter is too dark or too disgusting for some. I tried to explain it, but I probably did a bad job.

  • @asurapain9224
    @asurapain9224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks!

  • @ebott7456
    @ebott7456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a cool video man, hope to see more of these if you make it a series or something ;)

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People seem to enjoy the topic, which is surprising as many told me it was too niche lol. I am glad I can make more of this style

  • @gjagielom2
    @gjagielom2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Loved learning about Crowley. I was surprised that Jack the Ripper from SMT IV did not make the list but since most people know his story it makes sense.

    • @aerth6946
      @aerth6946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's already a video covering the Jack Bros.

    • @gjagielom2
      @gjagielom2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aerth6946 fair enough i admit i am not caught up on all the videos so i will check it out

    • @youcantbeatk7006
      @youcantbeatk7006 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jack the Ripper wasn't a real person. He was a government coverup.

  • @PhantomsnowAlexa
    @PhantomsnowAlexa ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It is incredible and terrifying to learn that there were creatures inspired by real people.

  • @polyman6859
    @polyman6859 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Crowley did all that and STILL lived to 72. Fuck dude, do really* drugs even shorten lives?
    Jokes aside, that was an insanely interesting story and I thank you for sharing it.

  • @countD8852
    @countD8852 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff! I'd be really interested to see if there are more than those two who wound up inspiring the demons of SMT. I knew of Crowley, and though I haven't read The Book of Law, I liked Moonchild well enough. I didn't realize Crowley's life had that kind of a redemption period.

  • @ivanjm2707
    @ivanjm2707 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally think it's hilarious they actually made Rasputin a main villain for the first Raidou game lol

  • @dogearflopper7011
    @dogearflopper7011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:13 "...which is a book I actually own and have read."
    Least surprising Law fan lol

  • @orboakin8074
    @orboakin8074 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aleister Crowley actually turned his life around and even got something like redemption?! I had no odea. That's actually uplifting to hear. Plus, this Aleister ended up better than the one in Toaru franchise😂

  • @haeroarchon9741
    @haeroarchon9741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just realized I’m not subscribed to you. Made sure to fixed that, keep up the great work

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome aboard king

  • @dragonmaster613
    @dragonmaster613 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you grasp the point of Persona and their use, this makes hella sense.

  • @zilikslider
    @zilikslider ปีที่แล้ว +11

    didnt know night stalker was based on the average redditor

    • @kerryvanskonsol792
      @kerryvanskonsol792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, more like satanic believer who sacrifice for ritual

    • @TheDiscoGenre
      @TheDiscoGenre ปีที่แล้ว

      That psycho isn't nearly as obese as the average Reddit atheist/edgelord.

  • @IdentityCrisis1581
    @IdentityCrisis1581 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely Alistair Crowley. Look up the picture he drew of the demon named Lam that he supposedly summoned.

  • @pumkinhead24
    @pumkinhead24 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    True evil never resided in the realm of "fiction"

  • @rockyjmoon3
    @rockyjmoon3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Woah. That’s actually kinda based creating a demon based of a real life monster.

    • @Jolene007
      @Jolene007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Least obvious AI generated comment

    • @rockyjmoon3
      @rockyjmoon3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Jolene007 I’m confused. Is that a compliment?

    • @Jolene007
      @Jolene007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rockyjmoon3 No, it is not

    • @rockyjmoon3
      @rockyjmoon3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jolene007 ok. Just making sure. Also it’s not an AI generated comment.

    • @Tony4You
      @Tony4You  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah many people don't know that the demon in game is honestly more tame than the one in real life lol

  • @ItsShaz1
    @ItsShaz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting stuff.

  • @Kupomasters57
    @Kupomasters57 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow....alestor crowley is...trusly fascinating.

  • @redshepherd32
    @redshepherd32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That one relative of Crowley who proceeded to try and help him. But then introduce him to those activities. Like I understand he thought he had limited time left. But I still think it was a dumb decision. It might have kept him from passing on. But it lead to so many other issues.

  • @bepstein111
    @bepstein111 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yeah honestly, i wouldn't have felt comfortable listening to many people tell me this stuff, but something about your voice is comforting, like everything's going to be okay despite what you're telling me hahaha

  • @guillermo4730
    @guillermo4730 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:10 sounds like the embodiment of the Megaten Chaos philosophy

  • @MAJINSTARSCREAM4
    @MAJINSTARSCREAM4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was expecting you to mention Mad Gasser

  • @ParrotMan01276
    @ParrotMan01276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Let's not look at that shadow!"
    Too late. :O

  • @thefirestarter14
    @thefirestarter14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminder, Crowley advocated and even wrote about sacrificing children to gain “Magik” and power.

  • @ramseydoon8277
    @ramseydoon8277 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:02 what? How did he plead insanity on that?

  • @alcatrazvongola
    @alcatrazvongola ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Truly we were the Shin Megami Tensei all along.

  • @ryugaichiban6753
    @ryugaichiban6753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was pretty interesting I'd like to see more vids like this.

  • @brutaltoken634
    @brutaltoken634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about Nobunaga Oda? I remember fighting him in Persona 2. I believe just called Evil Shogun or something like that.

  • @KasaiBeats
    @KasaiBeats ปีที่แล้ว

    i love these lore videos

  • @AdamWestTheDrunk
    @AdamWestTheDrunk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's crazy that ramirez had actual fans... like real fans. Women standing outside of the court room cheering throwing panties and flashing him like he was a rockstar...

    • @Ben-zg8xk
      @Ben-zg8xk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      from what I saw the ones in the trial were all goth chicks, which makes sense based on how ramirez looks

    • @zerosam5541
      @zerosam5541 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is good looking why are you shock

  • @Kerokerostudio
    @Kerokerostudio ปีที่แล้ว

    Would absolutely love a follow up to this one talking about other demons based off of people like Jack the ripper. I always saw Nightstalker as a throwaway demon until now

  • @marshtomp8
    @marshtomp8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait, shouldn't Robin Hood have been covered in this video? Although there may never have been one true Robin Hood, the tale is based on real actual people.