The whole team that worked on this series are truly masters of their fields. Shortly after first discovering this series years ago, i found out how remarkable Sue Black is. After working with law enforcement on identifying remains & determining what had happened to them, she went one step further. Having worked on cases of paedophilia, she thought of using confiscated photos & videos that show the hands of perpetrators to identify them from their hands. She was extremely successful & aside from working with law enforcement throughput Europe, she gives presentations on it. Truly amazing woman.
I recognised Sue Black as someone that i had seen achieve something significant but i couldnt remember what. Thank-you for reminding me. She risked her emotional sanity(along with others in the same field) to research a ground-breaking predator identification method. Hundreds to thousands of images and videos of kids being abused that you cant unsee. Its people like her that deserve to be knighted, rather than fim and tv stars.
I played a lot of rugby and football and also did horse-riding too. Well, at the age of 58, I have knackered ankles, a duff right knee, dodgy hip joints, spinal problems and several teeth missing. Hardly surprising this skeleton was a bit of a mess really!
I just found this series last week and am binge watching it during quarantine. This program is wonderfully done, intelligent, interesting, and it is so sad that it is no longer being produced. We need more programming like this. As an archaeologist, it is challenging to make what can be highly scientific information both entertaining and accessible to the general public without losing the vital content. Cheers to you all from sunny Arizona, USA, and I hope you decide to do more documentaries during your careers.
I'm just seeing this show for the first time as well. Love it so far. Shout out from Battle Creek, MI. Btw, ya it's hard to make scientific work of any kind interesting to the public. Whatever mindless unentertaining drivel that replaced this gem ought to be buried and this brought back.
I agree. I am also an archaeologist and it can be a challenge to make the science interesting and comprehensible. When doing outreach, I have experienced some people that are not interested in the data collection or understanding site context, people find the behind the scenes paperwork boring, but want to know the story--even though you need all of this information to infer what was going on. This show does a great job interweaving the theories, history, and research in an entertaining way. We need more programs like this. All the best, from the Pacific Northwest!
@@jakobnicolas5744 kinda rude and how would you like it if someone did that to you. I have seen your comment so many times so 1) your very insecure and controlling or 2) you're trying to push an app for some reason but either way I am glad your gf is far away from you.
A truly fascinating series by a team of experts. I am thrilled that the Stirling Man is given a name after six hundred years. What gives me great joy is the thoroughness of British record keeping. Those archivists are brilliant.
As much as we might like to moan about bureaucrats & the seemingly endless forms we have to fill out throughout our lives, for historians, they are a godsend.
I mean I LOVE true crime documentaries, but THIS series takes it to a new level. It’s amazing what dedication is put into their work and the happiness on their faces whenever they find out something makes it just that much better. Binge watching case after case and can’t get enough. Well done !!!!
Apart from the remarkable history unveiled, the dignity and respect in handling the remains is gentle and sweet. One could assume that the remains were at one time much loved family members.
I'm glad the producers didn't focus so much on the scientific aspects of their investigation, that we missed getting to see their reverence for the man. In all the episodes, you see that the bones they examine, are never just remains to them. They are people that deserve recognition of who they were & to be treated as you say, with dignity & respect.
They can find out even more now color of eyes and hair so we can have a true picture and make a walk park of the whole story thru out the history maybe more interesting for history people
Just found this series. The concept of applying modern technology on ancient bones is so intriguing. To know why we are at our present we need to know our past. Bravo to this show’s creators and its stars. Wish it would be produced again.
I love forensic science, anthropology, and archaeology; I am pretty sure this series plays nonstop in my version of heaven. I am also a science teacher who loves the lack of cookie cutter science; the discussions the researchers have as they revise their theories about the investigation is role modeling that students need in order to internalize the knowledge that we learn the most from our mistakes and nearly nothing from our successes.
I tore my ACL in my right knee and I would rather have given birth (again) to an 8+ pound baby without medication than do this again! I screamed and cried until they finally gave me morphine. It still hurts I’m getting older and my knee will most likely need to be replaced or I’ll just cut the damn thing off! Lol. (It really did hurt. And I could not top the way y’all described your injuries lol)
Hi being a registered nurse, i have watched every single program, and have found it fascinating, so much so i am eager to watch more . wonderful series , really enjoyed every video but this one was the icing on the cake thank you .
I can't believe she reacted so naively to salted fish -- salt was the only way to preserve fish for hundreds of years -- for example, salted cod was a dietary staple even into the 20th century! So glad this was pointed out to her!
you can preserve meat by smoking it, by potting it (potted meat), and by dehydrating i as well as curing it. All of these methods have been around as long as curing (salting) meat.
"Were the wars of Scottish independence so overwhelming that women were caught up in the conflict as well?" Does the narrator/writer not know the history of any kind of war ever?!
Woman didn't have much choice back then ....or really ever....the danger is even more dangerous because of sexism. and it's not like the English would let the woman or staff live .
History and Science coming together. Looking into a man from 600 years ago! These are my favorite subjects. What an educational series. Thanks to those that have produced this. Thanks to those that have have put this on TH-cam. John Paper mabler
Great show, just watching it now, also watching it in hotel quarantine in Canada after arriving from Australia. How interesting would it be with the advances in DNA to actually try and locate the relatives of these people.
My reaction to "he lived inland but his diet showed he ate a lot of fish" wouldn't be to yell and get upset, but rather theorize that as a knight, he may have been travelling or campaigning somewhere along the coast and his body was sent back to the castle after he died...
As a Canadian, it always makes me smile to hear the claim of how 'far away' anywhere in England is from the coast. :) So I looked up Stirling Castle on the map and it was even closer to the ocean that I anticipated after the objections! I would have been more surprised if he DIDN'T have 30% of his diet from the sea. :)
@@slempire6547 Its Scotland not England but yes here you are even less distant from the sea. Its not unusual to have fish inland especially if you are wealthy.
Whilst this is incredibly fascinating, I would have really loved to have found out more about the tragic woman whom suffered such horrific battlefield injuries to her skull. One would expect to find noblemen killed in battle to be buried within the castle, but a woman whom suffered worse injuries than the knight with the arrowhead in his body, she's the real mystery!
Exactly they say back then women weren’t worthy enough to record their name but these folk clearly chose the male only n were saying the same thing they coulda done the same for her.
If you search for Interview with Professor Sue Black on TH-cam she talks about how much she disliked doing the show. I think the channel was Ragsnbones1973. It was a very interesting interview.
If you go to Interview with Professor Sue Black on the youtube channel Ragsnbones1973 fast forward to about 18:30, Professor Black explains. She apparently hates TV because it is fake.
I adore the music they use on this show almost as much as the content! It just fits so well with the material. Thank you.🙂 Wish I knew what music this is....🤔
EVERYONE ate saltwater fish in 14th C England. It was the only protein during Lent. Salt cod, salt herring were critical parts of the diet right up to the 20th C
I think if they had made up the woman's face too, it would have added to it, but I guess they only have a certain length of time for each programme! I love these, but I've read on other of these videos they were made in about 2010 (11 years ago!!). Would be great if they could make some again! Fabulous series!
Fascinating, moving even, to think that this fellow fought successfully enough to become a knight, died, buried and long forgotten, is now recognized centuries later! The research and development by this team is so thorough and I do believe they have the correctly identified this skeleton! I love ancestry so this is a fantastic series right up my alley! Very well produced!💕🇨🇦
*year 2630* “from what we can see, this subject must have been absolutely starved. The constant presence of petroleum molecules and plastics is unfathomable unless they consumed them in a futile attempt to stave off starvation!” Processed food industries, I’m looking at you.
As I'm watching this episode, I'm thinking the same thing....if my body is ever dug up, they will say: hmmm, high diet in carbohydrates with vast amounts of saturated fat...lol.
Love this series. However, the puzzlement of this individual’s high intake of sea fish might not be so implausible as he may be buried there but had not lived there or at least not long.
Exactly! As with everything else we can find out and they know his family had died out so he could have been taken and buried within their family church. Very disappointing.
After marveling over how passionately and meticulously they've worked.. I can't help but laugh seeing how the ladies were fan-girling over the beefy knight of Sterling 😁😁😁😁
John looks huge you really wouldn't want to cross him would you. Stella work from the best forensic team in the country again thanks for an awesome show
I appreciate the professionalism of the crew and actors and writers. Well done. The ones involving abuse of the very poor and/or young are too painful to watch after working child abuse investigation and protective placement for 10 years, though.
@@tonyoliver2167 i'm not saying she was definitely a lady knight but how does the two of them being relatives and not buried at the same time exclude the idea of her being one
@@thefroggy5240 - Maybe because there is absolutely no indication that she had the muscular/bone development needed to be a knight? Pretty sure they would have mentioned it.
I notice shows like this (Time Team) avoid familial DNA to specifically identify an individual. There must be legal complications on keeping skeletons after I.D. The base rule of archeology: Is there any family alive (caring?) *) No = Archeology. *) Yes = Grave Robbing
Love how the show explains that being buried in the PRIVATE CHAPEL of a NOBLEMAN's CASTLE means that the people there had to be HIGH STATUS and you still get amateur armchair historians arguing that they know better. Guys both Blacksmiths AND Archers are pulled from the low caste PEASANTRY. They are NOT High Status enough to receive burial in a Castle's PRIVATE CHAPEL. This leaves only a Knight or a member of the Lord of the Castle's family as potential people who could be buried in the Chapel. As a well built man with his type of injuries it SCREAMS Knight since we KNOW he can't be anything lower class because otherwise he'd be buried OUTSIDE the castle walls (as they were NOT in a siege during the time point the Carbon 14 and Isotope data allows for.) Ergo STFU, sit back, and let the EXPERTS do their jobs!
@@starrchild7061 oh jesus. Just stop. The historical record bears out the fact that peasants/lowborn people weren't buried in private chapels. Ever. If he was lowborn, he'd have been returned to his home, to be buried in a churchyard. This gentleman noble was buried in a private chapel. And your hypothesis of some siege? No historical evidence.
@@starrchild7061 just because a seige could have been happening doesn't mean he'd get an incredibly fancy burial... Peasants or serfs wouldn't get such things, *especially* if a battle was raging at the time.
I believe they made an error when assuming that because he grew up in France that he was not Scottish. The upper class of Scotland often sent their children to be raised and educated in France. He could very well have been the second son of a prominent family. Second sons would not inherit and often became knights. During such a turbulent time, it is not out of the realm of possibility that he could have been sent away from the turmoil and educated as the "spare" inheritor of an estate, but became a knight as his older brother lived to adulthood. This may not be the case, but ignoring this possibility could have led the investigation in the wrong direction.
Unfortunately, you didn’t properly identify whom it is you’re talking about....go back and read your first sentence. If you want people to reflect on your opinions, you’ve got to lay out the roadmap or they’ll skip it. As I did.
It looks very much as if the knight was English or French. However I believe the guy said his diet from around the age of eight to 15 was that of someone from Southern England or Coastal Northern France. It may be that the child/young man was a Scottish hostage in England, in the same way that the captured English Knight sent his son north to take his place as a hostage. If that boys bones are examined now they may well conclude that he was Scottish because between the ages of eight and fifteen he had eaten lots of haggis and deep fried Mars Bars.
“All we had was … a bit of beefcake!” I love women in STEM. Just found this series by chance and it’s so fun seeing a team of masters in their fields with such wonderful report with each other. The meetings where they all get together to share their findings are probably my favourite parts.
I know Prof. Black did not like making this series, I wish she understood the interest she and the other cast have generated in young viewers, instilling and interest in forensics and anatomony... possible leading to a career.
Most of the evidence is logical until it comes to where he came from. He could have been any of those nationalities given the right circumstances. Many children of Scottish Lords went to France for education etc. Many French came to Scotland at many different times and stayed. Without a more accurate date of death one would never know who was occupying the castle at the time he was buried. The best clue would be DNA but it doesn't look like that would be at all possible. Additionally the woman's remains do not make sense with the scenario. She obviously met a violent end having had the side of her head caved in and then maced to the top of her skull. Are her remains from a different time or from one of the many times when the castle was stormed. As people of honour they were buried in a place of honour. Which may not fit with the castle defences being breached unless it was significantly and then won back.
You don't have to live on a coast to eat fish. Also, as seen here, fish is easily preserved by drying or salting. Why did she make fun of her colleague for suggesting that the deceased ate fish?
The whole team that worked on this series are truly masters of their fields. Shortly after first discovering this series years ago, i found out how remarkable Sue Black is. After working with law enforcement on identifying remains & determining what had happened to them, she went one step further. Having worked on cases of paedophilia, she thought of using confiscated photos & videos that show the hands of perpetrators to identify them from their hands. She was extremely successful & aside from working with law enforcement throughput Europe, she gives presentations on it. Truly amazing woman.
I recognised Sue Black as someone that i had seen achieve something significant but i couldnt remember what.
Thank-you for reminding me.
She risked her emotional sanity(along with others in the same field) to research a ground-breaking predator identification method. Hundreds to thousands of images and videos of kids being abused that you cant unsee.
Its people like her that deserve to be knighted, rather than fim and tv stars.
@@raerae6422 You're totally right, it's enough to give her PTSD. She most definitely deserves public accolades.
Indeed!@@raerae6422
Susan Margaret Black, Baroness Black of Strome, was named president of St. John's College, Oxford in 2021.
I played a lot of rugby and football and also did horse-riding too. Well, at the age of 58, I have knackered ankles, a duff right knee, dodgy hip joints, spinal problems and several teeth missing. Hardly surprising this skeleton was a bit of a mess really!
I just found this series last week and am binge watching it during quarantine. This program is wonderfully done, intelligent, interesting, and it is so sad that it is no longer being produced. We need more programming like this. As an archaeologist, it is challenging to make what can be highly scientific information both entertaining and accessible to the general public without losing the vital content. Cheers to you all from sunny Arizona, USA, and I hope you decide to do more documentaries during your careers.
I'm just seeing this show for the first time as well. Love it so far. Shout out from Battle Creek, MI. Btw, ya it's hard to make scientific work of any kind interesting to the public. Whatever mindless unentertaining drivel that replaced this gem ought to be buried and this brought back.
Not many people now like educational shows they want more the kardashian bull brain dead ,, it’s really sad
What about the female and others was black Agnes or whatever her name was in the grave with him who were the others
I agree. I am also an archaeologist and it can be a challenge to make the science interesting and comprehensible. When doing outreach, I have experienced some people that are not interested in the data collection or understanding site context, people find the behind the scenes paperwork boring, but want to know the story--even though you need all of this information to infer what was going on. This show does a great job interweaving the theories, history, and research in an entertaining way. We need more programs like this. All the best, from the Pacific Northwest!
@@jakobnicolas5744 kinda rude and how would you like it if someone did that to you. I have seen your comment so many times so 1) your very insecure and controlling or 2) you're trying to push an app for some reason but either way I am glad your gf is far away from you.
A truly fascinating series by a team of experts. I am thrilled that the Stirling Man is given a name after six hundred years.
What gives me great joy is the thoroughness of British record keeping. Those archivists are brilliant.
As much as we might like to moan about bureaucrats & the seemingly endless forms we have to fill out throughout our lives, for historians, they are a godsend.
I mean I LOVE true crime documentaries, but THIS series takes it to a new level. It’s amazing what dedication is put into their work and the happiness on their faces whenever they find out something makes it just that much better. Binge watching case after case and can’t get enough. Well done !!!!
Did you have the chance to watch the serie of Mummy Forensic with Joanne Fletcher? I think you'd like it
Apart from the remarkable history unveiled, the dignity and respect in handling the remains is gentle and sweet. One could assume that the remains were at one time much loved family members.
I'm glad the producers didn't focus so much on the scientific aspects of their investigation, that we missed getting to see their reverence for the man. In all the episodes, you see that the bones they examine, are never just remains to them. They are people that deserve recognition of who they were & to be treated as you say, with dignity & respect.
I really really enjoyed this program, but I wish that there were more episodes. I could watch and watch and watch.
Bring it back please 🐿
They can find out even more now color of eyes and hair so we can have a true picture and make a walk park of the whole story thru out the history maybe more interesting for history people
I second that request.
Agreed. I love this show. So interesting! Wish there were more episodes!
More of this team 🙌 👏 👌
A pat on the back for all involved in the production of this most interesting and informative program . It's nice to know the "Reel truth"
Completely agree! Absolutely fascinating!
It was t actually produced by reel truth it was produced in 2010 by bbc 2
4 reals giving me the feelz
Just found this series. The concept of applying modern technology on ancient bones is so intriguing. To know why we are at our present we need to know our past. Bravo to this show’s creators and its stars. Wish it would be produced again.
NEED to bring this programme back on TV ! .used to watch this it's brilliant.🙌
I love forensic science, anthropology, and archaeology; I am pretty sure this series plays nonstop in my version of heaven. I am also a science teacher who loves the lack of cookie cutter science; the discussions the researchers have as they revise their theories about the investigation is role modeling that students need in order to internalize the knowledge that we learn the most from our mistakes and nearly nothing from our successes.
I cant get enough of these history cold cases they are brilliant, well done team as usual! .
the knight had a broken talus bone - I shattered mine, and verily, it sucketh greatly
😄😄😄
Are you referring to the Tail Bone?
I tore my ACL in my right knee and I would rather have given birth (again) to an 8+ pound baby without medication than do this again! I screamed and cried until they finally gave me morphine. It still hurts I’m getting older and my knee will most likely need to be replaced or I’ll just cut the damn thing off! Lol. (It really did hurt. And I could not top the way y’all described your injuries lol)
@@jamesfraser4173 No, he wrote 'talus'. The heel.
Lol
I can’t believe I stumbled upon this gem. Truly fascinating. 👏👏👏👏
Amazing how this group of professionals put their heart and soul into each project . They amaze me . Injoyed it emensly .
Such a deep history in the UK. Amazing that they still have documents from way back when.
Hi being a registered nurse, i have watched every single program, and have found it fascinating, so much so i am eager to watch more . wonderful series ,
really enjoyed every video but this one was the icing on the cake thank you .
It’s adorable how the ladies are cooing over the man’s physique saying “I like him, I like him.” Lots of time stuck in the laboratory ladies? ❤
Lawrence Fox narrating is superb. Really interesting & I again, learnt lots. Brilliant team.
Such beautiful handwriting on those parchments
Laurence has the perfect voice for narration.
This was posted 4 years ago and the comments are so varied. I truly enjoyed the trip through history with the evidence and the video. Thank you.
I can't believe she reacted so naively to salted fish -- salt was the only way to preserve fish for hundreds of years -- for example, salted cod was a dietary staple even into the 20th century! So glad this was pointed out to her!
Even educated folk can still learn something. Can't judge. We're all learning. Doesn't matter the age
It's also possible she was acting naive for the others who watched that didn't understand what was going on
you can preserve meat by smoking it, by potting it (potted meat), and by dehydrating i as well as curing it. All of these methods have been around as long as curing (salting) meat.
At that time Salt was too expensive, so mostly they used smoke. The real old method.
I love my picked fish.
Wow terrific love forensics and history. Great 2 in 1 for me. Thank you team.
These shows are fascinating to say the least!
"Were the wars of Scottish independence so overwhelming that women were caught up in the conflict as well?"
Does the narrator/writer not know the history of any kind of war ever?!
Woman didn't have much choice back then ....or really ever....the danger is even more dangerous because of sexism. and it's not like the English would let the woman or staff live .
Loved this series. I wish they'd made a season 2.
They do!!
Abscesses in his teeth and heel? Spinal injuries? Must’ve been painful.
I can’t imagine how many infections people had oozing wounds till septicemia killed them.
History and Science coming together. Looking into a man from 600 years ago! These are my favorite subjects. What an educational series. Thanks to those that have produced this. Thanks to those that have have put this on TH-cam.
John
Paper mabler
What a Wonderful Wonderful programme. Thank you all So Much!
This series is very interesting. I’m glad I found it, or it found me.
Ive 2 TV addiction.
Anthropology and true crime. Thanks to all out the uploaders
The preservation and documentation of the times are wild! How amazing the records they kept.
Great show, just watching it now, also watching it in hotel quarantine in Canada after arriving from Australia. How interesting would it be with the advances in DNA to actually try and locate the relatives of these people.
They apparently tried, but the family of the knight died out...
What a great documentary. Great team, I’m not gonna lie I was gutted to know e wasn’t a Scottish knight. RIP sir 🏴
I wish they had more of these videos!
My reaction to "he lived inland but his diet showed he ate a lot of fish" wouldn't be to yell and get upset, but rather theorize that as a knight, he may have been travelling or campaigning somewhere along the coast and his body was sent back to the castle after he died...
Yeah sue got on my last nerve with that one ( but she does come off like she always has to be right just sayin)
As a Canadian, it always makes me smile to hear the claim of how 'far away' anywhere in England is from the coast. :) So I looked up Stirling Castle on the map and it was even closer to the ocean that I anticipated after the objections! I would have been more surprised if he DIDN'T have 30% of his diet from the sea. :)
@@joanpashinsky-greve8760 It was mock indignation. Classic British humour.😀
@@slempire6547 Its Scotland not England but yes here you are even less distant from the sea. Its not unusual to have fish inland especially if you are wealthy.
She wasn't actually annoyed.
I love this show. Binge watching all day today. Thanks for such an interesting show from Nashville, TN!!
I love forensic Anthropology ❤🎉
Thank you for your Outstanding presentation. He was magnificent ❤🎉
Such an amazing journey. Excellent show.
Whilst this is incredibly fascinating, I would have really loved to have found out more about the tragic woman whom suffered such horrific battlefield injuries to her skull.
One would expect to find noblemen killed in battle to be buried within the castle, but a woman whom suffered worse injuries than the knight with the arrowhead in his body, she's the real mystery!
that is why it is called history=====his--------story
Exactly they say back then women weren’t worthy enough to record their name but these folk clearly chose the male only n were saying the same thing they coulda done the same for her.
She obviously didn't marry the right person. Repellant suitor? Jealous suitor? Suitor from the
losing side? Aggressor from the other side.
@@baskervillebee6097obvious? I can think of a dozen other reasons she could have died rather than her relation to a man
You don't need 'incredibly' with 'fascinating'.
Seems this show had a large following and was very popular. Why would it end in 2011? Probably replaced by some mindless drivel.
If you search for Interview with Professor Sue Black on TH-cam she talks about how much she disliked doing the show. I think the channel was Ragsnbones1973. It was a very interesting interview.
@@blip-2024 why would she dislike it? It was wonderfully done
If you go to Interview with Professor Sue Black on the youtube channel Ragsnbones1973 fast forward to about 18:30, Professor Black explains. She apparently hates TV because it is fake.
Sadly that seems true. It is like no one cares about the truth they just want to be entertained.
This show contains a decent amount of drivel. It's TV.
Wow. What a great looking knight. And over 600 years later, we have his story and his face. RIP, Sir John.
SIR John Edmonstone.
-Dustin Edmonstone
I wish they’d of done more of these I’ve seen these multiple times it’s such an interesting perspective on history
I adore the music they use on this show almost as much as the content! It just fits so well with the material. Thank you.🙂 Wish I knew what music this is....🤔
Me too! It's just brilliant
I’m obsessed with this program 😀😀
I really enjoy these places and people. Please please please put some new ones up. Thank you for sharing
For those that want to know who the cast are; Sue Black, Caroline Wilkinson, Xanthe Mallett, and Ian Bonds does the DNA
EVERYONE ate saltwater fish in 14th C England. It was the only protein during Lent.
Salt cod, salt herring were critical parts of the diet right up to the 20th C
Also pious people didn’t eat meat on Fridays either
@@molybdomancer195 only before the Reformation. Or Catholics after the Reformation. Protestants eat fish on a Friday
@@molybdomancer195or Saint days
It feels so strange to put his remains back in a shelf in a box. After getting to know him, almost. I'm glad we know who he was!
I just found this series and I am hooked. I love this sort of stuff. It's amazing. And maybe the Knight wanted to be found...:-)
I think if they had made up the woman's face too, it would have added to it, but I guess they only have a certain length of time for each programme! I love these, but I've read on other of these videos they were made in about 2010 (11 years ago!!). Would be great if they could make some again! Fabulous series!
While his direct family died out, it's now possible to find relatives by DNA. They should try that next.
If they know his family died out they know the Church and Parrish he was born into. When baptized he would have been recorded in the records.
Excellent points!
Fascinating, moving even, to think that this fellow fought successfully enough to become a knight, died, buried and long forgotten, is now recognized centuries later! The research and development by this team is so thorough and I do believe they have the correctly identified this skeleton! I love ancestry so this is a fantastic series right up my alley! Very well produced!💕🇨🇦
It's so interesting how you show what you do to solve cold cases,thank you so much for sharing your work to me!!!!! Your awesome!😊
I do wonder what human bones will show about our diets in hundreds of years, McDonald’s, Nando’s?
From what we can see, this subjects diet was probably quiet cheeky.
*year 2630* “from what we can see, this subject must have been absolutely starved. The constant presence of petroleum molecules and plastics is unfathomable unless they consumed them in a futile attempt to stave off starvation!”
Processed food industries, I’m looking at you.
Lol but sadly true
As I'm watching this episode, I'm thinking the same thing....if my body is ever dug up, they will say: hmmm, high diet in carbohydrates with vast amounts of saturated fat...lol.
I was thinking that too😅
Fascinating well done team. Thank you.
Absolutely amazing watch so incredibly informative and mind blowing truly the height of intelligence from these remarkable women
Thanks for posting! Wish they’d mixed the audio better
Love this series. However, the puzzlement of this individual’s high intake of sea fish might not be so implausible as he may be buried there but had not lived there or at least not long.
Fascinating! This is an amazing series with such intelligent and gifted people.
This is my new Favorite show!
Hold on a minute. Do you mean this brave Knight that fought and suffered through countless ordeals is going to remain on a shelf? Poor Sir John.
Exactly! As with everything else we can find out and they know his family had died out so he could have been taken and buried within their family church. Very disappointing.
After marveling over how passionately and meticulously they've worked.. I can't help but laugh seeing how the ladies were fan-girling over the beefy knight of Sterling 😁😁😁😁
They were all quiet as they gazed on his magnificent nakedness. 😂🤣
I’ve watched some of these episodes more than once. I also just ordered Sue Black’s book!
Fascinating show! I think the hardest thing to do in this episode was to let someone finish a sentence uninterrupted 😅
Excellent series. If you enjoyed these then you might enjoy another BBC series called "Meet the Ancestors" there are a few on TH-cam.
"yeah he's a big boy" actual lol! I wasn't expecting humor!
The narrator calling him "beefy" killed me too 😂
Im liking this series already. Imma watch a few of these.
Loving this. Learning so much! Thanku.❤👌🇳🇿
Brilliant love these documentaries From a skeleton to a handsome knight RIP Sir John (?) Well done team 👍👍
John looks huge you really wouldn't want to cross him would you. Stella work from the best forensic team in the country again thanks for an awesome show
Great Hunt! Definitely creepy parts! Love “how big it is”!
Absolutely fascinating work by all.
I appreciate the professionalism of the crew and actors and writers. Well done. The ones involving abuse of the very poor and/or young are too painful to watch after working child abuse investigation and protective placement for 10 years, though.
Great history......... but music is disturbing...... may this knight soul rest in peace
Very interesting, loved it
Amazing work guys congratulations 😊❤
How sad. A human life cut short in such a violent way. He probably had a family waiting for him. And his family line has died out.
Anyone who hasn’t read Prof Black’s books are short changing themselves.
Thanks for posting
Wow he is buff man and looks awfully powerful too :)
So sad the lady knight is forever unknown......
What "lady knight"? It is assumed that they were not burried at the same time and that they were relatives, likely cousins.
@@tonyoliver2167 i'm not saying she was definitely a lady knight but how does the two of them being relatives and not buried at the same time exclude the idea of her being one
@@thefroggy5240 - Maybe because there is absolutely no indication that she had the muscular/bone development needed to be a knight? Pretty sure they would have mentioned it.
"lady knight" 🤦♂️
I notice shows like this (Time Team) avoid familial DNA to specifically identify an individual.
There must be legal complications on keeping skeletons after I.D.
The base rule of archeology: Is there any family alive (caring?)
*) No = Archeology.
*) Yes = Grave Robbing
Also, DNA tests cost money. No media company CEO will throw extraneous cash around when he can fund a blockbuster movie or buy himself another yacht 🫤
I wonder how our ancestors are going to research us when everything is now electronic, mostly stored on cell phones, and not written down.
Love how the show explains that being buried in the PRIVATE CHAPEL of a NOBLEMAN's CASTLE means that the people there had to be HIGH STATUS and you still get amateur armchair historians arguing that they know better. Guys both Blacksmiths AND Archers are pulled from the low caste PEASANTRY. They are NOT High Status enough to receive burial in a Castle's PRIVATE CHAPEL. This leaves only a Knight or a member of the Lord of the Castle's family as potential people who could be buried in the Chapel. As a well built man with his type of injuries it SCREAMS Knight since we KNOW he can't be anything lower class because otherwise he'd be buried OUTSIDE the castle walls (as they were NOT in a siege during the time point the Carbon 14 and Isotope data allows for.) Ergo STFU, sit back, and let the EXPERTS do their jobs!
how do you you know they weren't under siege? Stirling was at the heart of the war with the English during this period
@@starrchild7061 oh jesus. Just stop. The historical record bears out the fact that peasants/lowborn people weren't buried in private chapels. Ever. If he was lowborn, he'd have been returned to his home, to be buried in a churchyard. This gentleman noble was buried in a private chapel. And your hypothesis of some siege? No historical evidence.
@@starrchild7061 just because a seige could have been happening doesn't mean he'd get an incredibly fancy burial... Peasants or serfs wouldn't get such things, *especially* if a battle was raging at the time.
I'm surprised there wasn't any kind of marker or headstone identifying the bodies though...
@@folgore1 their might have been but they could of been lost over the centuries.
I believe they made an error when assuming that because he grew up in France that he was not Scottish. The upper class of Scotland often sent their children to be raised and educated in France. He could very well have been the second son of a prominent family. Second sons would not inherit and often became knights. During such a turbulent time, it is not out of the realm of possibility that he could have been sent away from the turmoil and educated as the "spare" inheritor of an estate, but became a knight as his older brother lived to adulthood. This may not be the case, but ignoring this possibility could have led the investigation in the wrong direction.
Unfortunately, you didn’t properly identify whom it is you’re talking about....go back and read your first sentence. If you want people to reflect on your opinions, you’ve got to lay out the roadmap or they’ll skip it. As I did.
But, they identified him as English. So, unless he was kidnapped he wouldn't have grown up in France..
AWESOME a Knight. and what a handsome one too. Sir John.
We want to see some sexy knight hair on Sir John!
It looks very much as if the knight was English or French. However I believe the guy said his diet from around the age of eight to 15 was that of someone from Southern England or Coastal Northern France. It may be that the child/young man was a Scottish hostage in England, in the same way that the captured English Knight sent his son north to take his place as a hostage. If that boys bones are examined now they may well conclude that he was Scottish because between the ages of eight and fifteen he had eaten lots of haggis and deep fried Mars Bars.
I loved this series, especially when they brought that person to life by "putting flesh on the bones" of the skull, fascinating.
We need more histories like this, we learn instead of looking on trash videoes.
So true! It would make us better people.
Very interesting. Only I think the ladies got over excited about the naming of the man. That would be very risky to me.
One thing I’ve learned so far is that the IK just has buildings full of boxes of old bones EVERYWHERE. Haunted much????
“All we had was … a bit of beefcake!” I love women in STEM.
Just found this series by chance and it’s so fun seeing a team of masters in their fields with such wonderful report with each other. The meetings where they all get together to share their findings are probably my favourite parts.
I finally figured out the intro to most of these videos is almost the same 😆
Now I can stop skipping them thinking “...nope I’ve seen that one...”
Very interesting. I kinda teared up when they put a face on him.
Glad I wasn't alone.
I know Prof. Black did not like making this series, I wish she understood the interest she and the other cast have generated in young viewers, instilling and interest in forensics and anatomony... possible leading to a career.
Most of the evidence is logical until it comes to where he came from. He could have been any of those nationalities given the right circumstances. Many children of Scottish Lords went to France for education etc. Many French came to Scotland at many different times and stayed. Without a more accurate date of death one would never know who was occupying the castle at the time he was buried. The best clue would be DNA but it doesn't look like that would be at all possible. Additionally the woman's remains do not make sense with the scenario. She obviously met a violent end having had the side of her head caved in and then maced to the top of her skull. Are her remains from a different time or from one of the many times when the castle was stormed. As people of honour they were buried in a place of honour. Which may not fit with the castle defences being breached unless it was significantly and then won back.
I found this so interesting.
These episodes are from 2010-11. I'd love to see what this kind of investigation could uncover today.
I would think there where a lot of fish and chip shops in Stirling at the time
Hahahahaha 😂brilliant
You don't have to live on a coast to eat fish. Also, as seen here, fish is easily preserved by drying or salting. Why did she make fun of her colleague for suggesting that the deceased ate fish?