The Next BIG VILLAIN in WoW Midnight

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    WoW Midnight will be our next adventure after the war within and we believe we know who is the next big villain to be revealed! After seeing the lightforged gorehowl axe over at the chinese re-release of the wow servers, our speculation engines starting pumping and it all kind of falls into place. Let’s see what can we expect!
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  • @guilhermecosta3360
    @guilhermecosta3360 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    In before Thrall dies and Anduin raises his kid as a paladin xD

  • @markuslc1888
    @markuslc1888 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    wasn't there even undead paladins in vanilla WoW, eastern plaguelands? that dude in the chapel, were you took the naxx attunement quest.

  • @madraven79
    @madraven79 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    If we have orc priest we should be able to have orc paladins

    • @nothisismyhandle
      @nothisismyhandle 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah the vomit reaction is weird and telling...

  • @jaydencrilley67
    @jaydencrilley67 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Flame needs to make his own channel

  • @ThanawrathGaming
    @ThanawrathGaming 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Is Yrel's "dark secret" that she is the daughter of Kil'jaeden or Archimonde? Since the Legion failed in the alternate timeline to corrupt Draenor, then it is the Light that corrupts it and Yrel is the Light's harbinger.

    • @nothisismyhandle
      @nothisismyhandle 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I like the idea of Yrel having lied to us the whole time and being Xal'atath of the light all along but only if it happens in like 5 expansions from now... Beating void and light back to back feels rushed

  • @supersolenoid
    @supersolenoid 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sir Zeliek (if I recall correctly the name) was a resurrected paladin and one of the four knights in Naxxramas. So strong in the Light that it responded to him even in undeath. Canonically there's no problem.
    I just wish devs will add an intro sequence specific for undead paladins, declaiming how special and unique they are (even if there will be thousands of them after they are implemented).

  • @slywook_one
    @slywook_one 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Waiting for Tauren or Orc evoker, like Hulk to clap the hands to jump

    • @schippes24
      @schippes24 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      orc evoker doing a hulk-jump instead of flying would be so amazing hahaha

  • @echolocationn
    @echolocationn 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've been saying ever since Blizz announced expanded race/class combos, that the main new Paladin races should be:
    Alliance:
    Night Elf - Because it's already established in the Paladin Order Hall campaign in Legion that Night Elves can become Paladins.
    Kul Tirans - Because they're just Humans with closer Vrykul heritage.
    Horde:
    Mag'Har Orcs - Yes, their history with Y'rel would be a big "no" to that. However, we already have evidence that some are already light infused (glowy, yellow eyes) and one doesn't have to trust Y'rel to still follow the light itself.
    There could be others as well, but these were the key ones that I thought of.

  • @Arja021
    @Arja021 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    All I can think is "My destiny is my own!"

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not fair, you were there while this talk happened :)

    • @Arja021
      @Arja021 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarcelianOnline We both know that Lord Illidan knows the way. That and I "Rejection of the Gift" is one of THE best cinematics of all time!

    • @L0rks
      @L0rks 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Arja021 "I AM MY SCARS!"

    • @Arja021
      @Arja021 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@L0rks 💜

  • @schippes24
    @schippes24 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    i just dont like the multiverse bullshit we had with WoD. it's such an asspull and makes you ask: why would they bother to get a gul'dan from another universe to give the burning legion an entrance to that universe if they could just bring 5 kil'jaedens or whatever.. while yrel herself is a cool character and a potential "hey look, the light is a villain of some sort as well" topic, i dont think she can carry another expansion story-wise. maybe a patch, but like i said, blizz best doesnt touch the multiverse thing again. there are enough redcons as is

    • @SygMan
      @SygMan 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      WOD was a walking advertisement for the Warcraft movie.

    • @markuslc1888
      @markuslc1888 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i mean Warcraft lore started with all of that.

    • @spudtsar9377
      @spudtsar9377 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I like the multiverse bullshit because we got a garrison out of it *insert gigachad image*

    • @schippes24
      @schippes24 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@markuslc1888 how did the lore start with multiverse? i'm not saying different realms, but multiverse, as in "there are multiple versions of one and the same person/area"

    • @markuslc1888
      @markuslc1888 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@schippes24 sure, book rise of the horde, draenor, guldan, kil'jaedan, nathrezim, sargeras, all of that happened before vanilla WoW. nerzhul wanted to conquer all worlds for the horde together with teron gorefiend.

  • @ThanawrathGaming
    @ThanawrathGaming 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The WoD website included "a dark secret" on Yrel's description. This was removed and probably abandoned along with her romantic relationship with Maraad.

  • @Boredonthejob
    @Boredonthejob 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Yrel is not an artifact weapon" should be on a coffee mug

  • @ericsmith2692
    @ericsmith2692 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Maghar orc campaign is basically the amount of xalatath that we’ve had up until end of DF and TWW

  • @vexitus4714
    @vexitus4714 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am praying they add more Alliance options for Paladins if this speculation turns out to be true and Horde ends up getting Orc/Undead Paladins.

    • @kingbrewster9075
      @kingbrewster9075 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But also some more Shaman Alliance races and better customizations! It sucks having cool chest pieces but playing a Dwarf/DID Shaman and not being able to see half of my transmog, maybe an option to hide the beard or just hide it with more Mail helmets?

  • @Jay-407
    @Jay-407 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I super hyped for this expac just based on the color theme and name. Just feels good

  • @joaquincamposlucas3809
    @joaquincamposlucas3809 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I truly would love to see undead druids, it might not have that much sense, but imagine a undead cat or undead bear uffff

  • @ruffierniert
    @ruffierniert 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't care about Yrel, I want to see my boy Exarch Garrosh

  • @semi6544
    @semi6544 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In all the timelines, there is only one timeline where Garrosh is evil. Garrosh is the best hero believed to be the best hero is multiple timelines are considered. We got the one where he was bad.

  • @mernohyr3216
    @mernohyr3216 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If they make her a raid boss im joining her army or wiping the raid until I get kicked
    I have never been a simp until now

  • @krisdickson9740
    @krisdickson9740 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought Garrosh used Gorehowl in the Mok'gora with Thrall in WoD? Or was that Grommash's from that timeline? If it was, than the OG Gorehowl should be where he dropped it during the SoO raid, unless someone picked it up.

  • @zinkist
    @zinkist 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Light in WoW has always had a Fanatical/Authoritarian side.
    The Zealots of the Scarlet Crusade are still Light-wielding Paladins.
    Whitemane even canonically Resurrects someone *"Arise my Champion. At your side my Lady."* - True-Resurrection is a rare feat in WoW, usually requiring the efforts of an entire team of high-ranking Priests or a proper Miracle from the likes of Anduin.
    The Scarlet Crusade are one of the most basic, intrinsic "Evils" of WoW, they're basically the Foot Soldiers from TMNT - generic evil goons.
    If the evil foot-soldiers of WoW can wield the Light just as effectively as Anduin, then what does that say about "The Light's" moral-compass?
    As the saying goes: **"The most brilliant Light casts the deepest Shadow."**
    I am a harcore Paladin Main and have been a WoW Lore-Nerd since Warcraft 2, and I never once thought that the Light was purely Good. Just look at the Knight's icon from Warcraft 2 - The guy looks overwhelmingly SMUG, like a Militaristic-Male-"Karen".

  • @NoztrozeR
    @NoztrozeR 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It looks to me like the story will move towards the void starting to invade for real and consuming Azeroth.
    In desperation, the heroes of Azeroth, probably spearheaded by Tyraleon, will seek the lightforged in alternate Draenor.
    Yrel being the leader will accept, but also desires to infuse and turn the denizens of Azeroth into beings of light.
    Just guessing here, but I could imagine that the conclusion will be that we then have to fight back Yrel. It will be this look into the balance of the cosmic forces.
    ... Or I could be completely wrong. I don't know anything about WW and the story therein, just spitballing here, based on what Metzen and Blizzard in general likes to do with their stories.

  • @juiicer
    @juiicer 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Xal'atath has been around way longer than just Legion and BFA. This has been culminating for almost the entirety of WoW Lore. Bellular has a good video on Xal'atath lore.

  • @murrloc1859
    @murrloc1859 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Orc tattooed and a pally ???? No shield just throwing axes !!!! Lesssgoooooooo🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @tzechZ4
    @tzechZ4 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    We have Tauren rogues and void elf holy priests and you're worried about an orc priest picking up a shield ? Lol

  • @xXGeko1Xx
    @xXGeko1Xx 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like what they tried to do to Illidan. They tried to force the light on him and he was like “Oh Hells no!” 😂😂😂

  • @andrewjohnson5407
    @andrewjohnson5407 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Orc paladins actually make a lot of sense . Especially if you only view the classes of priest and paladin as classes that are attached to gods . Especially since orcs are an honor bound race . Paladins with there oaths , vows and seals plays well with orcs . Agreed do not see them using holy much but def ret and prot fall under them . Then when it comes to holy , I don’t think the light or void should be race locked . I feel like that’s something everyone has access to because more that use it more control of it .
    Also I believe wow needs to evolve out of the stagnant troupe of race locked classes .into more of RPG based game options. Everyone is the same . Making immersion go up another level .

  • @x_Laki_x
    @x_Laki_x 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ah Yes Grom Lightscream

  • @semi6544
    @semi6544 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vyranoth was not soft. As soon as Vyranoth became the Aspect of Storm she went to Stormheim alone and made Odyn look like a child as she took the storm dragons back. She is calculated. She isn't soft.

  • @L0rks
    @L0rks 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    YREL! YREL! YREL!
    Thank you :)

  • @zackimus
    @zackimus 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't get the hate for Orc paladins. If a race can be a priest then it would make sense they could be paladins too

  • @la7era1u54
    @la7era1u54 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think this will happen until The Last Titan expansion. I think midnight will be the culmination of the void story arc, and then The Last Titan will be the expansion to deal with the light

  • @VirusXAX
    @VirusXAX 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe Yrell is NOT carzy but got tricked into invading other timelines as a pure beleaving and she invading our Timeline but she saw us, the people who helped her to gain controll of her own life and she overthinks the invasion real quick. But i guess we will see her as a crazy one untill she snaps out of that.

  • @Ceegore
    @Ceegore 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They better not turn my baby Yrel evil!!!! lol I love that goat woman.

    • @ShikageBlackthorne
      @ShikageBlackthorne 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      During the Mag orc quest she already turning evil currently in Lore and the quest she was Forcing Orcs to become Lightforged or get be killed by her army

  • @salvatoresciarabba6011
    @salvatoresciarabba6011 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Orc paladin incoming! And i hope even kultirans

  • @danieljordan8732
    @danieljordan8732 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am with Flame, if they use Yrel, they better put the time in to explain how she got from WoD til now. They have the time to do it right.

  • @Omaski
    @Omaski 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    its too similar to Whitemane and the Scarlet Crusade...if anything, they should bring them back with Turalyon or a long lost/resurrected leader not named Whitemane since shes a DK now

  • @InsidiuthKhylau
    @InsidiuthKhylau 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly undead palaz would be more appropriate than orc palaz imo

  • @gustavoluizzirpoli7048
    @gustavoluizzirpoli7048 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can we see someday Yrel against Lady Liadrin?

  • @Deadneck
    @Deadneck 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video guys, alot of nice speculations. Now we just need to expansion to pop!
    No fan of seeing orc paladins in the future, but atleast it will open up the chance of getting more race/class combos.

    • @ShikageBlackthorne
      @ShikageBlackthorne 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      well get ready because they've already confirmed that eventually all races will be able to be all of the classes

    • @Deadneck
      @Deadneck 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ShikageBlackthorne You just made me really happy 🥲💐

  • @Skuggi88
    @Skuggi88 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yrel can 1v2 like none other

  • @faustwulf3535
    @faustwulf3535 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally, Orc Paladins. I dont have to be a cow or a pointy eared femboy anymore

  • @Rawr1Stuff
    @Rawr1Stuff 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do use guys think theres a chance Illidan comes into play in the world soul saga? With light vs Shadow etc going on? Also th titans to come at some point it would make sence to me if we see him at some point in these 3 expansions.

  • @syxqid3818
    @syxqid3818 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Undead paly? Why not, palys are a mix of warrior & priests... and arthas killed alot of paladins maybe there are some dead ones in lordaeron who just need calia to wake them up 😂
    Yrel comes for a 1v1 fight against Xalatath 🤪

  • @Kerek77
    @Kerek77 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not many quicker ways of undermining your current villain than introducing your next villain, lol…

  • @hellothere8812
    @hellothere8812 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t mind if she is a mini villain but nothing major

  • @nordicpush1452
    @nordicpush1452 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why not both: illan and new class + race combo? I like orcs paladins same as dranei warlocks or tauren rogues or oid elf holy priests... Blizz not care about lore anymore why should we limit players options by it?

  • @rockyroche4136
    @rockyroche4136 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Legion - First representative of bad side of light.
    Scarlet Crusade - Are we a joke to you......

  • @Joeygiggles3
    @Joeygiggles3 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This doesn't mean anything, I think it was just them making it that way to shine at night

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's always a possibility, but this kind of stuff never just happened because "shiny" xD

    • @Joeygiggles3
      @Joeygiggles3 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarcelianOnline this is true but the color yellow also has meaning for the Chinese culture as well "Yellow - Earth. Yellow is an imperial color in traditional Chinese color symbolism, representing power, royalty, and prosperity."
      I'm trying to cope and praying it means this and not Orc Paladins lol

  • @ThyFleshConsumed
    @ThyFleshConsumed 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Azeroth is free!"
    -Yrel, after fighting us but then being sorry and becoming our friend again.

    • @ThyFleshConsumed
      @ThyFleshConsumed 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also I agree with Flame. I don't like what they're doing to Yrel's character. I don't like that people want the same thing for Turalyon.

  • @bearmageddond4236
    @bearmageddond4236 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they make Orc's Paladins and not Undead Shadow Paladins I'm gonna have to quit Wow

  • @churroman29
    @churroman29 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gave up caring about race/class combos. Blizz don't care, and a good amount of players seem to want it. Every race can be every class. No flavor, no lore. Fuck it.
    I always wished blizz would lean *more* into race/class specificity, but it's clear that ship sailed long ago.

  • @0mn0mable
    @0mn0mable 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yrel is bae

  • @ticmaful
    @ticmaful 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If a race can be a a priest it does not correlate that they can be paladins, it is not how the Light usage for these classes works lore-wise.
    Paladins are infused with it, unlike the Priests. This is what the cringers calling for undead paladins do not understand and keep naming that one singular guy from vanilla who actually lives in extreme agony because of that (doubt that he is actually alive anymore).
    Knowing blizzard they will retcon whatever and just make everything a possibility thus making it all a grey mish-mashed sludge without any flavour.
    As if tauren paladins were not dogshit enough lmao

  • @CuriousZenWayfarer
    @CuriousZenWayfarer 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:00 Plot Twist, Anduin becomes the first Undead Paladin

  • @dgsunny23
    @dgsunny23 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Don't know why Blizzard is bent upon destroying the very concept of Warcraft and fantasy that Warcraft III established....this is really sad

  • @mireiyu6623
    @mireiyu6623 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Imagine if Yrel founds out Khadgar is dead and she will become even more crazier how many friends she lost.

    • @kalejarmar3187
      @kalejarmar3187 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      did you just recklessly spoiled the fucking war within beta mate?

    • @doctorpillow5961
      @doctorpillow5961 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@kalejarmar3187 bruh if you dont like seeing spoilers avoid any wow content until TWW launch and u won't cry. We already knew from the begining of the alpha Platinumwow video.

  • @termztzu5208
    @termztzu5208 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Druid Dwarves or I'm out

  • @kazkorianor
    @kazkorianor 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Being the good guy does not mean you are a good guy

  • @charleighkimber4611
    @charleighkimber4611 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I waited for years for my perfect husband Genn to commit war crimes, but that window has passed. Turalyon, though? Listen to him when he's in the Arathi Basin battle; that man is still incredibly racist and just waiting to explode in fascism.

  • @MrFACTORYwork
    @MrFACTORYwork 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm so mad they make her a villain

  • @tirsom
    @tirsom 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It can happen, due to Blizzard's concept that nothing is good and nothing is bad, the light does not care who is its bearer, an orc paladin sounds horrible if it does not make sense, but hey we have tauren rogue xD
    Now Yrel, I agree with you, she has to be tough, a very tough paladin, since we already have to accept that tough men in wow will never come again, well it's up to women to take the role, because that's about heroes in the style of Varian Wyrnn or Volji or Garrosh, forget about that

    • @charleighkimber4611
      @charleighkimber4611 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No one finds this whiny misogyny and love of authoritarianism to be anything but weak.

    • @tirsom
      @tirsom 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@charleighkimber4611 But it's the truth, call it whatever you want, misogyny, whatever, what happened in Legion? That was the key and no one saw it coming, they killed ALL the strong (male) characters of the lore for no reason, even Garrosh (in pandarian), who if you ask me was the most realistic thing an orc leader had to be, and for that So then blizzard says it's not that the story has to continue... let's see! which story? If everything that has come out after Legion is disgusting to this day, we have a stupid and weak king, a super champion of light who continues sitting on a throne that is not his, a frustrated shaman, a magician who It doesn't do anything but on the other hand we have a whole group of female heroines who look like goddesses on earth, I ask you, do you see equality???

  • @NemXX2
    @NemXX2 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Omg stop trying to kill the paladins. WTF!
    Also, no one needs lore for class/race combinations. Our characters are not canon.

  • @ZorkusYT
    @ZorkusYT 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yirel dint do anything wrong

  • @card969
    @card969 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another strong female, yaaaaah

  • @That_kind_of_orc
    @That_kind_of_orc 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a mag'har orc enjoyer I'm waiting for Yrel to arrive through that dark portal and mag'har will kick her ass back to draenor

    • @MarcelianOnline
      @MarcelianOnline  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Would be surprised since she pretty much owns Draenor right now

    • @simonwalesch3838
      @simonwalesch3838 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MarcelianOnline I have a possible theory of what could happen (yes, with orc paladins).
      Yrel comes in the midnight of the 0.2 patch, maybe
      we defeat their armies, the possible remnants of which could consist of lightbound orcs under the leadership of AU Garrosh, then some quests which lead to them becoming an allied race. Neutral or on the Alliance, mainly here because I don't think they can get along with the mag'har orcs in the Horde unless all the remaining ones were brainwashed, there are problems with the Alliance too but it could work better. I would also explain orc paladins

  • @LordMazafeff
    @LordMazafeff 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why make someone who was right a villian.

  • @adaneshade
    @adaneshade 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Aren't Undead paladins just DKs? 😆