100% agree on the convertible thing. I have had my Miata since 06 and I can't imagine ever letting it go, as long as it is dry and the road is also you can drive with the top down - the heater in this thing is like sitting in front of hair dryers when you turn them up, so even freezing temperatures is okay.
Mustang aside, Tom has made a very true lifestyle statement in Convertible ownership. Never wanted one myself, bought a 2004 SAAB 93 Vert for my daughter as a Grad present in 2019, she rejected it (Manual), and now am a convert. Thought it would be cheaper than a mistress, was mistaken, but it did encourage leaving the wife who disparaged it, life’s been blissful every Spring since.
I never thought I would be a convertible fan. I felt that it would feel too exposed or showy. That was until I got one as a rental…I had a blast! The open air and visibility had me hooked immediately. I’d love to have one now just as a summer car.
Don’t know what your budget is, but Audi/BMW/Mercedes all have convertible (cabriolet) models in their lineups with All-Wheel Drive so you can drive them in the winter. They even have what they call “heat scarves” to blow warm air on the back of your head so you can drive them with the top down in the middle of winter! Lol
My 2018 Ecoboost has the 6 speed manual and it is fantastic. The 2024 has a few more ponies under the hood, but mine has all the power this 74 year old can handle.
I have a 22 gt manual. Nothing beats the sound of the V8. When I take it in for an oil change I can always tell when they start it up. Even the biggest trucks don’t sound as loud. Good on Ford to keep offering three pedals. Not a huge fan of the screens in the new one. Love the review though.
Oh, you're so right about convertibles; every top-down ride was like being on a vacation. Had two BMW convertibles but now have a more practical Subie Forester which is also great.
The digital dash wouldn't be so bad if they made some attempt to design in the digital aspects rather than just an upright pair of screens mounted on a cleared out section of the dash.
What a nice toy. I feel sorry for the younger generation, there are less and less toys to play with. Never been a mustang fan but I have to say, I would be more then willing to have go in Manual V8 one. I will try to do that before they go extinct.
Ford does drop tops extremely well my 2012 vert is 11 years old doesn't leak a drop and is just now showing its age, some small cracking where it folds. Plan on getting a 2024 can't wait.
Convertibles: In the Summer of 1971 I cruised around town in a gold metallic Pontiac Grand Ville convertible. I felt like ''a million bucks''...until I had to do some long-distance driving.
It's a shame the turbo-4 isn't available with a manual. Manuals are always a better match for 4-cylinders and, if you are trying to save money by getting the 4, that would be a good way to get the price down further.
The 10-speed is superior in every way and is a far better match for the Ecoboost. A huge part of getting the most out of a turbo four is having it in the right RPM range. 10 speeds allows you to do that far better than 6.
@@tim3172also, i'de rather have a cheap trashy car but it be manual than a nice one and be automatic (if in this hypothetical I was not allowed to convert the nicer car to manual)
While your cinematography is well known, I really enjoyed the audio aspects in this video! I’m “too tall” torso-wise for a mustang convertible, but we owned a stick shift Beetle convertible, and two stick shift Wranglers - we love the open air rowing experience!
I have always loved Mustangs. But with all the advances in technology I have come to realize that I am more of a enthusiast of sound rather than performance. The eco boost vs V8 GT number have proven to me. Maybe why so many dislike EVs.
The Tommy Bahama leather returns! Had an '84 GT manual...remember the great adjustable seats and getting 27MPG on a trip from So cal to scottsdale! Thx!
I wonder what the story is with the extra piece for the edge of the decklid instead of have one stamping? Looks like some sort of a compromise? Any intel on this engineering decision? Also, it is going to be difficult to clean the bugs from the two front side grills because there is a space between the grill and the flat back plate...where the bugs will splatter.
Excellent footage and review as always Mr. Voelk. A couple of questions: the last time you drove with "youthful exuberance" in the wet was in a VW GTI,. right? Also, what are those sneaky little white LED lights in the top inside corners of the grill? 2:42
I have this car in Rapid Red with the 10-speed. Love it, though living in RI I will need to buy a winter car. Something to note: You pay an extra $650 for a manual due to the Gas Guzzler tax. The 10-speed costs $1595 extra but really $1000 since it does not get the GG tax.
Your sayind not possible in California😢😢😢😢. Remember I bought tjis in New Mexico.....what was I doing in New Mexico and at Ford Corners dealership to have fou d that car in the first place.....and how did i register it in Caly.
I had ordeted a 4 cylider , no AC. No power windows or locks. Only otption was Recaro seats.. That was an option due to the 1979 Indy Pacer, as was called the.
Ford ought to offer a manual with the Ecoboost engine for enthusiasts who want the better weight, economy and range of the 4-cylinder. Having owned a Ford Focus ST, I can vouch for the great torque and smooth power delivery of an Ecoboost engine.
Ok. On the 351 windors heads with 4 valves and 58cc chambers.....😢 the do exist ... but very hard to find.....again u must ubderstand. It was Milpitas. IN 1980.
I'm afraid you lose points on not owning a Mustang at some point in time in your life :), but I concur on the convertible. Mine was '05 Mustang GT. Black. Manual transmission (best manual I ever drove) Insurance/storage/need to get another car for winter (I live in MN, winter driving was out of the question) made me eventually sell it. Still miss that car. Mustangs know what they are and what they aren't, and Ford has done a good job of coloring within the lines.
Ha! When I moved from MN to Seattle, I thought "perfect, I can own a convertible now". My fiancé (a Seattle native) looked at me like I was on mushrooms. But I still own it 32 years later. Same with the fiancé (now Mrs.).
Great review Tom, as always. The Mustang is a lovely looking car and no one can fault the V8. Sadly though, with over 3.5 millions Ford's recalled last year I'd never touch one. I'll keep my 2023 Lexus IS500 which will be flawless and far more reliable and durable.
@@amiller2121 Time to get a clue. It is a public forum and I said it was a lovely car AND that Ford has had over 3.5 millions recalls. All facts. So where am I crapping all over the mustang? I buy cars that I enjoy driving. I didn't buy my IS500 because its a Lexus, this is my first. I bought it because I love the 5.0 liter naturally aspirated V8 and how it drives. This is a public forum and sometimes people have different opinions to your own, you need to be a little more mature to handle that or don't go onto public forums.
Just got a new 2023 Miata RF GT manual , in Soul Red. So, you know that it’s fun ride. Only $35k. Is the new Mustang Convertible worth $30k more? Not in my opinion even though it has a great v8. You can’t get everything if you’re on a budget. So I bought a Miata rather than a V8 Mustang. The Miata is nimble, light, and way more affordable. Get better gas mileage too.
I mentined I was looking for a particular model of heads.....He was like "I HAVE A SET IN MY GARRAGE" We raced in both our cars to his parents garage....and Frickezy...he had the Holly Grail of small block heads....351 with 4 valves. I said wait here. ........
The 4 speed tranny had stock gears. The rear end had stock 308 gears.....agains the matth. .lihgt weiht. Pure horse power. And 93 octain gass. Yeh i know. 93. But a few gass stations still had it. And just 5 miles away.🏃♂️
Not the car for me, but I absolutely love that sound. I pay particular attention (and appreciation) whenever I hear one. Especially now that the V8 is an endangered species.
Ok teaser. My 4 bang Mustang was stuck on a car hauler near Denver Colorado because of a freak snow storm. The road was closec. Agiain. Loong storey...
So I have a question Tom. Has anyone actually done testing comparing Brembo to Stock brakes off the track? Do you really need the best brakes in the world to enjoy your time in this car? Driving through the North Cascades or Whidbey Island or the Olympic Peninsula with the top down is perfect in a convertible. Far better than a claustrophobic coupe.
You didn't necessarily need Brembos for everyday driving, it's as much about the fade resistance as it is stopping power and that's only going to be tested on the track. However, there have been situations where I'm glad my car didn't take an extra foot to stop, so maybe the better brakes are always worth it.
@@DrivenCarReviews I remember watching a Jay Leno video where he was advised AGAINST ordering the Brembo’s for his new McClaren specifically because he wasn’t taking it to the track. And I just looked at the Build it section on Ford’s website. No 2024 convertibles available even to build. Curious.
I forget where I saw it on the internet but I think it was brembos website where they tested them against regular breaks and the difference was very little
Tom, There is a lot to like with the Mustang but this much power sent exclusively to the rear wheels means all Mustangs should have a limited slip differential.
Had 3 Mustang Verts of newer models, Camaro is actually a better buy. Especially if you want a top performance Vert. The 2023/2024 ZL1 Vert is the better buy... at least for now
This car is almost perfect, but seriously, why not make the interior materials a bit nicer? I don’t get it. If you need, just raise the price by $2,000-5,000 for an interior improvement. That’s not that much money to invest in the interior. The car would still sell well
My moms was born in New Mexico. I had Aunts, uncles and cousins there and went there evbery summer....... So i was at that dealership . Ok thast another weird part of tjis story that would take a while to explain. But think turbo charging a 4 banger before the Japanese...
So to cut story shorter. I actually made $8.00 AN hour then. (minimume wage was $2.35/2.60 back then) . I had my own cash. For the aformention 4 banger. Again think a crazy 18 tteen young dude that made more money than his dad... Ok again back to my Black, Recaroed out, 4 speed, no options , 49 state legal Mustang. Stuck in Cororado....😢. My family and I going to leave NM in 2 days from then. I did not have enough money for the V8 no frills Indy Pacer that dealer had out front and center on A display rack. Yes in the very front almost in the street.... So the 4 bander i was going to turbo charge, lower , tint the windows and throw an after-market sound system(again i made more legal money than most drug dealers).
It's a shame that Mother Nature robbed you of some top-down fun, but there are worse ways to spend time no matter what! As a long-time Mustang fan and owner of a stick-shift GT, the design of this latest rendition has grown on me, and I don't think the screens would bother me (haven't gotten a test drive yet), but I'm not looking to replace my 28 year old car with this just yet. The V8 powered GT is the choice I'd make, but I'd reserve the decision on the stick vs. auto until I drove both. I enjoy going through the gears, but driving a stick can get tedious in normal everyday use (commuting, errands, etc.). The sound of the V8 triggers something down deep that I can't overcome, no matter what the specs say about the power numbers of the ecoboost. After driving the 4-banger, it's perfectly fine, but not the audible and visceral experience that I would be looking for. The problem is that the V8 produces more power than can ever really be utilized when not on the track. There's so much there, that getting to the fun driving means that you're also doing near triple digit speeds, which is not something anyone with brains should be doing on any public roadway. What I would be interested in, is an electric version as a third powertrain option. Take out that unnecessary 4-banger, transmission, gas tank and all those other parts that support the gas engine and replace them with a dual motor or tri-motor EV setup, and now you have my attention! I so wanted Ford to introduce an EV version of this body style. The Mach E is a fine crossover EV, but it's not the same as a 2-door coupe/convertible experience. If anyone at Ford is listening, please be exploring this before 2030...
Vehicles still available with a fixed mast antenna, Chevy Express/GMC Savana Ford F Series trucks Ford E series vans Ford Transit Pre refresh Wrangler and gladiator GMC/Chevy full size trucks Mazda Miata GMC Canyon/Chevy Colorado Ram 1500 CLASSIC I’m sure I’m missing one or two ha
My father and I left the dealership . Both deep i depressio. (Again yet another long story...ok my dad and his buddies were SHade Tree mechanics) So he knew exactly what I was going to do with the 4 banger. He was almost 😢 as me.....as we left the dealership. I was very sad....for 48 hours i just stayed in the room(at my Aunts house.) I mean everybody was very concerned with me. What was I go8ng to do. So we are leaving tommorow. No new Mustang to work on. Do my magic on. I was very distraught....
U know the feelin. The first girlfreind. The first holding hands. The first going to the Matinee. 😂 . With her parents just behind us😇. Then the firstbreakup. No. Deeper than that. Way deeper. Cuz there will be other girl friends. Many. Many. Many more girlfriends. But never that first car. BLACK MUSTANG. V8 4SPEED that u, I was going to turn it a road going, every day driv8ng show car. Men envied and woman wanted to be in. Deeper than the Pacific Ocean....the word deppresion is no deep enough.
So i am laying there. Very hungry cuz i jadnt eatin. ( ate constantly then) 16:54 Then I hear. Wait for it.......... ............................,....................... VAROOM,VAROOM VAROOM.
I slowly walk to the window amd look out it..... What the FUDGEcycle. My dad. The car. The car. I go out side..."What he..ck are u doing. See I did not have enough money for the Pace car. So i said quit frick fricken with me.. He said,and i qoute. "IT,S YOURS" What the heck er ,ll did you say. "ITS YOURS" HEsaid Ok. Another short long story..... "IT,S YOURS"
not sure about the redesign... would need to see it in person, but that backend wasn't appealing. And the blackout hides the cool designs of the car. I got my hybrid, and soon it will be convertible mustang (I like the outgoing version the best though). Still seems like a good value. call it my midlife crises car.
The good thing about Mustang is that old dudes and dudetts buy them to feel young again and drive them... well... like old folks. Then, a couple of years down the road you get ones that are pretty much new on the cheap.
Thanks. I wwill not drive an auto. Unless its someelse car. By the way, my 2010 only has 74 k miles on it. I mostly have worked close to home. And many times road a bicycle.
The blackout trim is really a turn-off for me. Never in a million years would I buy the car you reviewed. On the other hand, the GT/CS is a "pretty" car, and it's the one I'd choose.
A Mustang without a stick - I can get that, after all it is an Amermican car. But two tablets stitched together? Nah. Maybe on a Nissan GT-R, but not on a Mustang - looks cheap, and I wonder how they will work in 20 years, much less in 50 years. Electronic dashboards of the 1980s looked more elaborate, not just pixels on a flat screen. I chuckled about the water-tight top - was it an issue with old Mustangs that you mentioned it?
100% agree on the convertible thing.
I have had my Miata since 06 and I can't imagine ever letting it go, as long as it is dry and the road is also you can drive with the top down - the heater in this thing is like sitting in front of hair dryers when you turn them up, so even freezing temperatures is okay.
I live in California. I don't know why more people don't drive convertibles. Whatever. Their loss.
Mustang aside, Tom has made a very true lifestyle statement in Convertible ownership. Never wanted one myself, bought a 2004 SAAB 93 Vert for my daughter as a Grad present in 2019, she rejected it (Manual), and now am a convert. Thought it would be cheaper than a mistress, was mistaken, but it did encourage leaving the wife who disparaged it, life’s been blissful every Spring since.
I never thought I would be a convertible fan. I felt that it would feel too exposed or showy. That was until I got one as a rental…I had a blast! The open air and visibility had me hooked immediately. I’d love to have one now just as a summer car.
Don’t know what your budget is, but Audi/BMW/Mercedes all have convertible (cabriolet) models in their lineups with All-Wheel Drive so you can drive them in the winter. They even have what they call “heat scarves” to blow warm air on the back of your head so you can drive them with the top down in the middle of winter! Lol
So you thought a convertible would feel too 'exposed' or 'showy'. Really? Are you that much of a snowflake?
The car and the camera work are superb!
But that red one will get you a ticket...for sure!
Thanks!
Thanks Jim! You are a true gentleman with fine taste.
@4:45 The strut tower brace is standard on all GT convertibles and not only with the Performance Pack .
My 2018 Ecoboost has the 6 speed manual and it is fantastic. The 2024 has a few more ponies under the hood, but mine has all the power this 74 year old can handle.
Woe go get em paps lol just joking
I have a 22 gt manual. Nothing beats the sound of the V8. When I take it in for an oil change I can always tell when they start it up. Even the biggest trucks don’t sound as loud. Good on Ford to keep offering three pedals. Not a huge fan of the screens in the new one. Love the review though.
All the love from Arabia
Thank you TOM
Fantastic job as always! Thanks a ton for the amazing review. Your dedication to making these videos is seriously impressive. Keep up the great work!
Oh, you're so right about convertibles; every top-down ride was like being on a vacation. Had two BMW convertibles but now have a more practical Subie Forester which is also great.
Liking the return of the leather jacket. Blows the puffy vest away for sure!
The digital dash wouldn't be so bad if they made some attempt to design in the digital aspects rather than just an upright pair of screens mounted on a cleared out section of the dash.
What a nice toy. I feel sorry for the younger generation, there are less and less toys to play with. Never been a mustang fan but I have to say, I would be more then willing to have go in Manual V8 one. I will try to do that before they go extinct.
Wild thing! You make my heart beat!
Great job as always Tom! I can’t do all the screens for now.
Ford does drop tops extremely well my 2012 vert is 11 years old doesn't leak a drop and is just now showing its age, some small cracking where it folds. Plan on getting a 2024 can't wait.
How has the top been taken care of?
@@awwwwwyeahhhhh1110 Nothing fancy F11 and regular car washes
I have on about seven convertibles. One of them was a 73 mustang convertible. What is 351 Cleveland
Convertibles: In the Summer of 1971 I cruised around town in a gold metallic Pontiac Grand Ville convertible. I felt like ''a million bucks''...until I had to do some long-distance driving.
Great review, I really enjoyed it.
It's a shame the turbo-4 isn't available with a manual. Manuals are always a better match for 4-cylinders and, if you are trying to save money by getting the 4, that would be a good way to get the price down further.
If you get anything other than the darkhorse the manual is s***. I doubt they would put the good manual in the ecoboost.
The 10-speed is superior in every way and is a far better match for the Ecoboost.
A huge part of getting the most out of a turbo four is having it in the right RPM range. 10 speeds allows you to do that far better than 6.
@@tim3172 Superior in every way except cost and fun-to-drive factor. Manuals may not be faster anymore, but they are always more fun.
@@tim3172yea but that is boring, ide rather walk than drive an automatic
@@tim3172also, i'de rather have a cheap trashy car but it be manual than a nice one and be automatic (if in this hypothetical I was not allowed to convert the nicer car to manual)
So no one likes the ecoboost, its basically a focus RS, that's rear wheel drive sounds like a good buy to me.
a real antenna to put a ball on
While your cinematography is well known, I really enjoyed the audio aspects in this video! I’m “too tall” torso-wise for a mustang convertible, but we owned a stick shift Beetle convertible, and two stick shift Wranglers - we love the open air rowing experience!
Audio is important, people forget about that.
I’m 5’9, perfect for me 😂😂
I have always loved Mustangs. But with all the advances in technology I have come to realize that I am more of a enthusiast of sound rather than performance. The eco boost vs V8 GT number have proven to me. Maybe why so many dislike EVs.
You can get a Mustang with a spare tire (both EcoBoost & GT), but it is a $415 option, verified by Ford’s Build & Price.
I sure hope the GTD front fascia makes it to the regular models in the next couple iterations.
I get about 20 combined in my GT with the manual. I also get about 29 on the highway. Think the EPA heavily underestimated the fuel economy on the GT.
The Tommy Bahama leather returns! Had an '84 GT manual...remember the great adjustable seats and getting 27MPG on a trip from So cal to scottsdale! Thx!
The jacket seemed appropriate.
Thanks for a great review. I am about to order one of these - very keen to get my first convertible.
Great review Tom!! Keep up the great work!!! I would to like own one before they are gone!!!
The CC was smaller in 4 barrel heads. Thus 11 to 1 compression ratio.
Drove an SVOMustang many years ago with the turbo four and a manual.
Great handling car and a blast to drive
Those were awesome.
I wonder what the story is with the extra piece for the edge of the decklid instead of have one stamping? Looks like some sort of a compromise? Any intel on this engineering decision? Also, it is going to be difficult to clean the bugs from the two front side grills because there is a space between the grill and the flat back plate...where the bugs will splatter.
Of course we enjoy your video’s, always:)!
Excellent footage and review as always Mr. Voelk. A couple of questions: the last time you drove with "youthful exuberance" in the wet was in a VW GTI,. right? Also, what are those sneaky little white LED lights in the top inside corners of the grill? 2:42
True about he GTI. And those little lights are just the corner of the DRLs.
I have this car in Rapid Red with the 10-speed. Love it, though living in RI I will need to buy a winter car.
Something to note: You pay an extra $650 for a manual due to the Gas Guzzler tax. The 10-speed costs $1595 extra but really $1000 since it does not get the GG tax.
Coward. My mt, gt performance pack vert with magneride is my daily here in pa.
Your sayind not possible in California😢😢😢😢.
Remember I bought tjis in New Mexico.....what was I doing in New Mexico and at Ford Corners dealership to have fou d that car in the first place.....and how did i register it in Caly.
I had ordeted a 4 cylider , no AC. No power windows or locks. Only otption was Recaro seats.. That was an option due to the 1979 Indy Pacer, as was called the.
A car I have zero interest in except maybe as a rental, yet I love your typical excellent, informative and wry review.
Real v8❤
Ford ought to offer a manual with the Ecoboost engine for enthusiasts who want the better weight, economy and range of the 4-cylinder. Having owned a Ford Focus ST, I can vouch for the great torque and smooth power delivery of an Ecoboost engine.
Ok. On the 351 windors heads with 4 valves and 58cc chambers.....😢 the do exist
... but very hard to find.....again u must ubderstand. It was Milpitas. IN 1980.
Please do phev convertible mustang with modular generator?
I'm afraid you lose points on not owning a Mustang at some point in time in your life :), but I concur on the convertible. Mine was '05 Mustang GT. Black. Manual transmission (best manual I ever drove) Insurance/storage/need to get another car for winter (I live in MN, winter driving was out of the question) made me eventually sell it. Still miss that car. Mustangs know what they are and what they aren't, and Ford has done a good job of coloring within the lines.
Ha! When I moved from MN to Seattle, I thought "perfect, I can own a convertible now". My fiancé (a Seattle native) looked at me like I was on mushrooms. But I still own it 32 years later. Same with the fiancé (now Mrs.).
Very excited for my California Special to arrive, going into production next week!
Have fun!
😮😮😮😮He just walked away. And mumbbled ...U did not learn that fro me
Nothing like the sound of a V8 & a great reviewer. I don't think we will ever understand how hard you work to keep those vehicles dry ☔
Lots and lots of microfiber cloths.
Summer tyres are perfectly fine for precipitation. A different story are track tyres. Winter tyres are for snow.
My dad retired fr9m Milpitas Assembly Plant...they called San Jose Assembly Plant......
Had my lovely '96 Miata M edition for 10 glorious seasons till I sold it to help with the kids college expenses. Oh well, nothing last forever.
Tom, how many times did you knock your head geting in and out of the car?
Not once.
Great review Tom, as always. The Mustang is a lovely looking car and no one can fault the V8. Sadly though, with over 3.5 millions Ford's recalled last year I'd never touch one. I'll keep my 2023 Lexus IS500 which will be flawless and far more reliable and durable.
Enjoy flawless ride you have. Leave real driving to real men that can drive manuals.
No one cares about your Lexus bro!
@@amiller2121 I didn't know a tool like you speaks for everyone?
@fleuger99 Oh, I'm the tool? I'm not the one coming into the comment section of a Mustang video to crap on it and talk about their poser Lexus.
@@amiller2121 Time to get a clue. It is a public forum and I said it was a lovely car AND that Ford has had over 3.5 millions recalls. All facts. So where am I crapping all over the mustang? I buy cars that I enjoy driving. I didn't buy my IS500 because its a Lexus, this is my first. I bought it because I love the 5.0 liter naturally aspirated V8 and how it drives. This is a public forum and sometimes people have different opinions to your own, you need to be a little more mature to handle that or don't go onto public forums.
Just got a new 2023 Miata RF GT manual , in Soul Red. So, you know that it’s fun ride. Only $35k. Is the new Mustang Convertible worth $30k more? Not in my opinion even though it has a great v8. You can’t get everything if you’re on a budget. So I bought a Miata rather than a V8 Mustang. The Miata is nimble, light, and way more affordable. Get better gas mileage too.
I have the 2024 GT mustang but I would bet that Miata is every bit as fun maybe more fun on a curvy road
Thus the Beast began...
Holley single plain manifiold. Holley carbed..Hooker long tube headear. True duel exhaust dumbed defore rear axle (lots of torque) and violata ...
I mentined I was looking for a particular model of heads.....He was like
"I HAVE A SET IN MY GARRAGE" We raced in both our cars to his parents garage....and Frickezy...he had the Holly Grail of small block heads....351 with 4 valves. I said wait here. ........
Wow more than my 3.0 premium Supra.
I took to my High school auto shop teacher.......during his afternoon class......
The Mustang did not get its name from the WW2 fighter but rather the wild horses. Hence, that’s why there is a horse on the Mustang.
Nope. The fighter plane.
Yeah I have heard that before doesnt make sense why they would put the horse on there then should put the plane on there
What a great car. Will make fantastic rental.
Not this one. The EcoBoost.
The 4 speed tranny had stock gears. The rear end had stock 308 gears.....agains the matth. .lihgt weiht. Pure horse power. And 93 octain gass. Yeh i know. 93. But a few gass stations still had it. And just 5 miles away.🏃♂️
Needs a wing
Not the car for me, but I absolutely love that sound.
I pay particular attention (and appreciation) whenever I hear one.
Especially now that the V8 is an endangered species.
Ok teaser. My 4 bang Mustang was stuck on a car hauler near Denver Colorado because of a freak snow storm. The road was closec. Agiain. Loong storey...
My secret was......the 351 Windsor heads. 4 valve.
They were like Boss 302 head. But much stronger.
But The GM Fremont Assemly Plant was closer to my house. I mean I could walk to it.
I need to find a house with a bigger garage.
So I have a question Tom. Has anyone actually done testing comparing Brembo to Stock brakes off the track? Do you really need the best brakes in the world to enjoy your time in this car?
Driving through the North Cascades or Whidbey Island or the Olympic Peninsula with the top down is perfect in a convertible. Far better than a claustrophobic coupe.
You didn't necessarily need Brembos for everyday driving, it's as much about the fade resistance as it is stopping power and that's only going to be tested on the track. However, there have been situations where I'm glad my car didn't take an extra foot to stop, so maybe the better brakes are always worth it.
@@DrivenCarReviews I remember watching a Jay Leno video where he was advised AGAINST ordering the Brembo’s for his new McClaren specifically because he wasn’t taking it to the track.
And I just looked at the Build it section on Ford’s website. No 2024 convertibles available even to build. Curious.
I forget where I saw it on the internet but I think it was brembos website where they tested them against regular breaks and the difference was very little
Tom, There is a lot to like with the Mustang but this much power sent exclusively to the rear wheels means all Mustangs should have a limited slip differential.
Please fill us in on which vehicle you needed a tow truck to get you out
Had 3 Mustang Verts of newer models, Camaro is actually a better buy. Especially if you want a top performance Vert. The 2023/2024 ZL1 Vert is the better buy... at least for now
Torque was higher on the previous model.
This car is almost perfect, but seriously, why not make the interior materials a bit nicer? I don’t get it. If you need, just raise the price by $2,000-5,000 for an interior improvement. That’s not that much money to invest in the interior. The car would still sell well
My moms was born in New Mexico. I had Aunts, uncles and cousins there and went there evbery summer.......
So i was at that dealership . Ok thast another weird part of tjis story that would take a while to explain. But think turbo charging a 4 banger before the Japanese...
Cool!!!
So to cut story shorter. I actually made $8.00 AN hour then. (minimume wage was $2.35/2.60 back then) . I had my own cash. For the aformention 4 banger. Again think a crazy 18 tteen young dude that made more money than his dad...
Ok again back to my Black, Recaroed out, 4 speed, no options , 49 state legal Mustang. Stuck in Cororado....😢.
My family and I going to leave NM in 2 days from then.
I did not have enough money for the V8 no frills Indy Pacer that dealer had out front and center on A display rack. Yes in the very front almost in the street....
So the 4 bander i was going to turbo charge, lower , tint the windows and throw an after-market sound system(again i made more legal money than most drug dealers).
So I was at a Frienfs house
He had a 1968 Ss Camero..yes i smoked him.....But his friend I did not know was there.
It's a shame that Mother Nature robbed you of some top-down fun, but there are worse ways to spend time no matter what! As a long-time Mustang fan and owner of a stick-shift GT, the design of this latest rendition has grown on me, and I don't think the screens would bother me (haven't gotten a test drive yet), but I'm not looking to replace my 28 year old car with this just yet.
The V8 powered GT is the choice I'd make, but I'd reserve the decision on the stick vs. auto until I drove both. I enjoy going through the gears, but driving a stick can get tedious in normal everyday use (commuting, errands, etc.). The sound of the V8 triggers something down deep that I can't overcome, no matter what the specs say about the power numbers of the ecoboost. After driving the 4-banger, it's perfectly fine, but not the audible and visceral experience that I would be looking for. The problem is that the V8 produces more power than can ever really be utilized when not on the track. There's so much there, that getting to the fun driving means that you're also doing near triple digit speeds, which is not something anyone with brains should be doing on any public roadway.
What I would be interested in, is an electric version as a third powertrain option. Take out that unnecessary 4-banger, transmission, gas tank and all those other parts that support the gas engine and replace them with a dual motor or tri-motor EV setup, and now you have my attention! I so wanted Ford to introduce an EV version of this body style. The Mach E is a fine crossover EV, but it's not the same as a 2-door coupe/convertible experience. If anyone at Ford is listening, please be exploring this before 2030...
Nah man forget that electric mess the tech just isnt there yet.
Best mustang yet... although, I would be one to convert that disgusting computer interface with analog gauges.
Vehicles still available with a fixed mast antenna,
Chevy Express/GMC Savana
Ford F Series trucks
Ford E series vans
Ford Transit
Pre refresh Wrangler and gladiator
GMC/Chevy full size trucks
Mazda Miata
GMC Canyon/Chevy Colorado
Ram 1500 CLASSIC
I’m sure I’m missing one or two ha
Yup. But I said "car" and all but the Miata are trucks. Jeep Wrangler has one. .
@@DrivenCarReviews But for 2024 the Wrangler and Gladiator have it in the windshield! Wasn’t trying to correct you or anything!
You're a freak if you're over 5'-9. Cheers.
Well, I'm not over 5'9" so I guess I'm not a freak.
So no 4 banger. And not enough money for the Indy Pacer......😢😢😢
My father and I left the dealership . Both deep i depressio. (Again yet another long story...ok my dad and his buddies were SHade Tree mechanics) So he knew exactly what I was going to do with the 4 banger. He was almost 😢 as me.....as we left the dealership.
I was very sad....for 48 hours i just stayed in the room(at my Aunts house.) I mean everybody was very concerned with me. What was I go8ng to do.
So we are leaving tommorow. No new Mustang to work on. Do my magic on.
I was very distraught....
U know the feelin. The first girlfreind. The first holding hands. The first going to the Matinee. 😂 . With her parents just behind us😇.
Then the firstbreakup. No. Deeper than that. Way deeper. Cuz there will be other girl friends. Many. Many. Many more girlfriends.
But never that first car. BLACK MUSTANG. V8 4SPEED that u, I was going to turn it a road going, every day driv8ng show car. Men envied and woman wanted to be in. Deeper than the Pacific Ocean....the word deppresion is no deep enough.
So i am laying there. Very hungry cuz i jadnt eatin. ( ate constantly then) 16:54
Then I hear. Wait for it..........
............................,.......................
VAROOM,VAROOM VAROOM.
And the AROOM GOT LOUDER. AND LOUDER. AND LOUDER...
VAROOM. VAROOM. VAROOM.
i am thinkng what the heck is going on.
I slowly walk to the window amd look out it.....
What the FUDGEcycle.
My dad. The car. The car.
I go out side..."What he..ck are u doing. See I did not have enough money for the Pace car. So i said quit frick fricken with me..
He said,and i qoute.
"IT,S YOURS" What the heck er ,ll did you say.
"ITS YOURS" HEsaid
Ok. Another short long story.....
"IT,S YOURS"
not sure about the redesign... would need to see it in person, but that backend wasn't appealing. And the blackout hides the cool designs of the car. I got my hybrid, and soon it will be convertible mustang (I like the outgoing version the best though). Still seems like a good value. call it my midlife crises car.
I was18. Paid cash I earned my self.
The good thing about Mustang is that old dudes and dudetts buy them to feel young again and drive them... well... like old folks. Then, a couple of years down the road you get ones that are pretty much new on the cheap.
I guess this is the reason for no manual on the four-banger.
I’m 58 yo, I have a ‘24 vert GT. With a manual. I take it to the redline at least once on every trip. Got a ticket for 86mph. Shop wisely……
pflasiuesllllll!! Froot loops out my nose!!!! SIXTY SIX THOUSAND FOR A MUSTANG!?!?!??
I would never get that as a convertible, or even get a sunroof, just more stuff to haul around and that can break, and it will eventually.
Will this be a classic car by 2050?
arguably a car has to be at least 30 years old to be a classic, so no
Thanks. I wwill not drive an auto. Unless its someelse car. By the way, my 2010 only has 74 k miles on it. I mostly have worked close to home. And many times road a bicycle.
mr. ed!
U must understand I had gratuated in June. This was September the following year, 1980...
The new GT is great. Just swap the tire with PS4S. Stock P-Zeros are garbage.
The blackout trim is really a turn-off for me. Never in a million years would I buy the car you reviewed. On the other hand, the GT/CS is a "pretty" car, and it's the one I'd choose.
You'd save money by not getting it. There's a win.
A Mustang without a stick - I can get that, after all it is an Amermican car. But two tablets stitched together? Nah. Maybe on a Nissan GT-R, but not on a Mustang - looks cheap, and I wonder how they will work in 20 years, much less in 50 years. Electronic dashboards of the 1980s looked more elaborate, not just pixels on a flat screen. I chuckled about the water-tight top - was it an issue with old Mustangs that you mentioned it?
2010-2014 at least leak very badly....even the coupes...😅
$66,000 seems like too much money. You can buy a new BMW MANUAL M2 for the same money..
Yes but repairs on the M2 is going to be a whole different ball game
Will never be able to afford one.
Get a job.
The filth gen is still the best looking of the modern stangs
Yeah filth gen
Yes.... I do not like Cameroes or FBs. I ate them for a snack
Why does Ford keep putting that dopey manual latch to open the convertible top? Everybody else figured out how to do it without a latch.