I RECORDED a METAL BAND in a big studio! LIVE!
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Today German producer Kristian Kohle (Aborted, Powerwolf, Electric Callboy, Hämatom, Van Canto, Emil Bulls) teams up with the Dutch Hardcore legend NO TURNING BACK to record an entire EP live in the studio!
Together they enter Studio Propast near Prague, a beautiful studio with a SSL 4000 console and an amazing sounding live room) to capture the raw energy of a live recording!
No click, no editing, no plugins!
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How do you like this recording approach? Let me know!
I do this live off the floor stuff all the time. Mostly hardcore/grindcore/d-beat bands, as the metal bands prefer to go track by track. Cool to see you doing some as well. I have quite a smaller room so it's almost a fun engineering test to prevent bleed with live guitar amps etc in the room. It can kind of add a noisy chaos to some of the tracks which I always like.
I think it only makes sense to get back to recording "Live Off the Floor" again, with most recordings these days sounding so perfectly snapped to the grid. We need fluctuations and groove in songs again! 🤘
No Turning Back are not a metal band there a hardcore band and it’s pretty common for hardcore bands to record live. I’ve done it with pretty much every band I’ve been in. You just get in there and get it done in one day.
Not game on using the 2” tape machine in the back ground 😂😂😂😂? Better energy with this approach IMO… love it
As someone in a metal band I approve. I recorded once with a guy that wouldn't let us do it this way and it made it way harder. I tried to get him to let us record one playthrough of the songs to use as a track to play to but nope he wouldn't do it. He also didn't make any click tracks so recording everyone individually and keeping time was a pain!
THIS is why you are the best Channel on Metal Production in the world!! Excellent video!
*Sad Glen Fricker noises
This is how all metal should be tracked, and I will die on this hill.
A producer that actually pays attention to the drums... I'm gonna cry
All jokes aside, your work is amazing 🤘🏼
do you know a pro ducer for metal that doesn't pay attention to drums?
Testament's Practice What You Preach was recorded live in the studio. It's my favorite by them.
I actually recorded a live gig from them in Tilburg about 15 years ago, cool to see them still going😁
Lovely stuff Kohle. This band's vibe definitely lend itself to this live style of recording. Love it!
The best piece of gear in the studio is a well rehearsed band. Makes the job so much easier.
That right! Especially if you work like this without click and editing
Very cool! I'll be checking this out for sure! That mesa sounds insane through the fane.
Nicely done! Thanks Kristian!!! 🤘🤘🤘
That video took me back to when I first started in the 90’s. Having the band all together in a huge live room with the amps walled off and running the Studer A80 wide body at 15ips!!! Capturing that energy of the band playing together definitely makes a difference! Thank you for what do!!!
Love No Turning Back. Super excited about this video!
Nice. That's how my first band's demo tracks were recorded - we were lucky enough to have a friend of the band who owned pretty good gear & a studio. It was an awesome experience & the outcome was amazing
You just keep doing the best content! This is awesome.
Amazing job, plus so much great info just in this highlight reel. Credit to the band too, they gave you a great performance to work with.
I really liked the "chaos" the room mics added to the rough mix. Just flipping those on brought the whole soundscape alive. I don't know how hard that effect would be to reproduce in a track by track recording, even if you had all the instruments recorded in the same room with the same room mic and same placements. I think all the sounds interacting with each other in the room and the dynamics of the whole band playing together adds something special.
Love the live recordings. When Korn moved back to this it was awesome. Hope more bands record live like this in the future. Really liked how you explained your tweaks. Nobody else does that from what I have seen. Nice touch 👍
awesome work, thanks for sharing here
The tracks at the end sound ridiculously good. The vibe is is excellent. Can't wait to hear the final result.
We're releasing the vocal (and gang vocal) part in the academy soon!
It sounds killer so far. I love the bass tone.
Fantastic job. I think this is the highest you can get in creating real value. Thanks, I will be following!
Welcome! Thanks!
My metal band does our recordings live off the floor as well. Drum kit with a full compliment of mics. Both guitars/tube amps direct with torpedos/IRs. Bass amp goes into a dark glass profile from TH-U. Pump it all into the DAW with headphones out to everyone.
Only thing you hear in the room is the drummer giving the kit a beat down.
Two 8 channel Claretts adat'ed together, headphones pre, two rack torpedos, Furman, computer, some headphones, and you're off and running.
At The Drive In did their album Relationships Of Command off the floor live. They even did the vox. You can hear the singer Cedric in the overheads. I think Beato did a break down.
Also : the self-titled Rage Against The Machine album (and maybe the second one) IIRR.
heavy work! respect!
Top video as always!!! 🍻
Love It, great idea!!. Some day, I think bands will come back to studios for this kind of recordings. Now we are still on the hiper produced sound era.
This was fun to watch.
Woah, No Turning Back! Martijn is such a nice guy and his band rules. I'm really glad to know they worked with you
He’s great! They’re all fantastic dudes! 🤘❤️
Wow those room mics really added something special! I am inspired by this and must try to record like this again. I have done live recordings but never had room mics on anything else than the drums. They make drums sound huge so why wouldn't they do the same on the entire band.
Exactly!
Those drums sound fantastic in that room.
great timing. my band and i are prepping songs and rehearsing our asses off to be able to record in studio live off the floor. no time aligning everything, no grid, just some good old four guys rocking the fuck out. this video came out just in time for us lmao
Sounds killer so far. For prog or tech death I can see it's not going to be ideal but I think for a lot of metal this sound really works. A lot of metalheads want feeling rather than perfection.
You are awesome mate! Thank you for all your wise words and amazing ideas and knowledge! It always sounds much better doing live recordings rather than all the cut and paste quantised recordings we seem to hear far too often! Nothing beats an awesome band with a skilled audio engineer doing what they do best! And thanks for sharing all your work 🤘🤘
Great to hear that! You're welcome!
This is the best video ever. I need more please. I’m going to buy asap
Sound sick! 🤘🏻💀🤘🏻
Awesome!
I like the sounds of drums! Mix it’s sound really good in old style. Great job it was very interesting 🤟
That's a sick PREmix!
I'm a live engineer. I do recording live a lot. I like the challenge of it and mixing the tracks later. The main goal of course is that the live performance sounds as good as it can, which also helps recordings sound as good as they can.
Cool video Idea. Capturing a life performance is always something special if everyone involved makes it work.
Great video. That session looked a lot of fun.
It was! 🍺❤️
The real takeaway that people should start understanding is that any way is a valid approach. With all of the tools available these days you can take anything and make it sound good. On some levels it’s easier to get a good recording with DI tracks and programmed drums, some times it’s easier for the artists to perform as a band. The most important thing is to get solid performances. Listen to your favorite albums, the performance is the most important part.
I live track bands quite often, it's the best way to keep their vibe - speaking of that, I'm particularly proud of the outcome of Tons' side in their split with Bongzilla.
Oh man that room mic sounds damn good
Hammergeiler Sound
Superb recording\pre-mix procedures. Maybe could tame a bit the V30 fizz, though can do it in the actual mix.
this is the way ive always wanted to record, live layer with overdubbed elements
Awesome vid
Live studio recording separates the Men from the Boys, plus It's way more human, fun and inspiring. There's nothing like that feeling you get when you nail that first full take.
Brilliant!!
I've happened to have seen these guy live very, very long ago.
In Manresa. They sure grinded the scene!
Your true colors show!
They’re a sick live band for sure!
Would love to see more hardcore music on this channel :D
fuck yes
@kohle : something i would love to hear about in a future video is the prep and "homework" you would have to do when going to record in a studio that's not yours, when you're so used to work in your own studio all the time : knowing how to operate the mixing console, using a different listening environment, bringing the right gear/cables with you (and see what you can use from the external studio), etc...
Even if you're a pro, it must be a a bit stressful and challenging to work "outside" of your lair every now and then.
It is. But if you don't challenge yourself, you're not gonna make it!
I had already worked at this place before so I knew it was a great place.
But next month I'm gonna do a drum session at a place I have never been before. I hope it's gonna be fun!
I just trust my ears and experience to make the best out of it.
But without a local engineer I could not operate a studio like this!
@@KohleAudioKult Thanks for the feedback man ! I do a lot of sessions outside of my place and the prep work and making sure you bring the right stuff and you got everything mapped out is huge.
This is the way!!!
Good to see someone still knows how to record stuff properly.
Nice! 🤘🏻
Great idea!
Woooow!!! with NTB!!!, i share the stage at a concert in a small pub in Lleida, Catalonia, Spain!!! great guys!!!
Great band!
The Redback Speaker sounds awesome.
This is one of your best videos by far.
I love the live tracking thing and the footage that comes with it, and of course i loved the fact that you worked with NO TURNING BACK here (btw : you should say "heavy music" and not "heavy metal" if you're working with a hardcore band :)), which is like the European equivalent of the almighty TERROR.
Great vid
The last few times I have been in the studio we played guitar and bass in the same room as the drums but DI the guitar and bass. I enjoy recording that way the most. Main goal is to get the drums, if the guitar and bass are also good takes than bonus. Then go back and double track the guitar with a cab
Good way to do it. You get the live vibe while still retaining a lot of flexibility.
This is a great compromise. Best of both worlds. We did that with my band too.
was, wie geil is das? no turning back 🔥 legenden!
I would love to see a review of the Warehouse DW-75 and what speakers it blends with and how it compares to the DV-77.
Great video today!
Is that a new WGS speaker?
@@KohleAudioKult yes sir it is! The Dustie Waring (of Between the Buried and Me) signature model. He's more of a bluesy/progressive type, as opposed to Mick Thomson's more brutal style. So I'm really curious!
awesome job. when the EP will come out?
Next up is the mic, we just did the vocal session which will be added to the course soon
My band just recorded our 7 song EP live. We all ran a click and basic mix to our ears. We were in a huge room that sounded great. The cabs were in iso booths to reduce mic bleed and so far...it is sounding really good. The experience was really cool. we play 90s style death metal with some sweet chainsaw tones so the 'raw' feel really works. This style, in my opinion, sounds better and more alive when it isnt so polished.
This method also makes sure the band is very, very well rehearsed. definatly need to get it right haha
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Omg. These guys kick ass
Wow that Fane90 sounds perfect
I am loving it. Sounds really 'alive'. Back in the late 80's my old thrash band Hydra Vein recorded like this....sadly we had a shit enginner and a tight budget haha. I always loved the process and the gelling as a band in the studio. And no damn click either! Thats what a good drummer is for right?
Lekker gewerkt, gasten. 😎
Testament's album "Practice What You Preach" was recorded live. One of the best sound albums, imho.
Epic guitar tone
I agree kinda reminds me of this Cuban artists tone th-cam.com/video/qYhuePJG6Ac/w-d-xo.html haha hit CC for english subs if you need, and have a wonderful day!
Recto style. Works very well for that type of hardcore.
Meshuggah's album "The Violent Sleep of Reason" is a great example of a recent metal album recorded live.
Indeed!
The advantage of this is that the musicians will adjust their amp to cut through the mix. Like in the old time when they recorded everything with one mic. All the balance was carefully adjusted. Could be a challenge for you!
the good ol days, theres still some pioneers though in friki changui th-cam.com/video/qYhuePJG6Ac/w-d-xo.html haha hit CC for english subs if you need, and have a wonderful day!
I really would love to do a record like that with my band as I have the feeling that we lose some "mojo" (for lack of a better word) when recording every instrument on its own
Can you program mojo? Good question...
indeed
Just get a mojo plug in 😂
@@GabeHelma only hardware mojo works. Digital mojo isn’t real. Also gain stage your mojo - idk some TH-cam producer
sounds cool! Before this I could only imagine some Punk band getting passable results with such a method
love it!! Music has lost a lot over the years! Sounds real. \m/
Would love to see some tips on recording live drums without editing. The detailed stuff is great, but I'm trying to get a 'live' open sound for my project. I want to use less gates, more mic bleed for example.
No gates at all on this session.
Work with the bleed!
"recording live drums without editing" -> use a good drummer and a band that plays tight with him/her :)
you should check out zao's album The Fear is What Keeps Us Here. It was recorded 100% live and on reel as well. sounds awesome
I love how dirty that album sounds!! A favourite for sure.
very cool....you got the guitar sounding pretty cool, a bit loose but i guess that's what they were going for.
Единственное что я бы добавил, это толпу фанатов в соседнюю комнату) с комнатными микрофонами)
Идеально! )
The only thing I would add is a crowd of fans in the next room) with room microphones)
Perfect! )
Meshuggah did "Violent Sleep of Reason" live off the floor and it definitely has a more organic and less sterile energy than any of their post "Chaosphere" records.
Yeah! Good one!
I like the REDBACK speakers
Okay, the tip at 9:46 may be obvious in retrospect but holy shit this is so great, never thought about that.
love no turning back ! martijn is a solid dude
Absolutely! But not only him. They're all great"
For me it's the live recording, it may not sound as clean but it's more fun
killing tone at 4:44 ! i was trying to get somekind of that
get the course then!
Nice Video
Music sounds best when recorded live off the floor...it's the whole enchilada at once..multitrack is someone's perspective of a series of events, summed down.
Some awesome mixing info....had a wtf moment a few times....lol. cheers from Vancouver Island
not sure "multitrack" is the right word for what you mean :) I think you meant "recording instruments one by one", which is different.
Most live recordings are multitracked (because you want all of these different tracks to craft your mix).
Meshuggah's 2016 album was famously recorded live in a studio (at least from what I gather), and even though the musicians were all in separate rooms, the energy is definitely there
My opinion is, if the band is a great live band (like Meshuggah or Karnivool), then you better trust that they can deliver no matter the style, but I personally wouldn't try this with some local metalcore teenagers :D
Right. You depend on the band not depending on endless editing, haha!
@@KohleAudioKult couldn't have phrased it better myself xD
Cool vid... this is how it's supposed to be done. Get in a room, get mic'd up and let it go. Personally, I would do a couple of extra things to see if I can push the band to play like they are at a show or at the verty least, their rehearsal space while maintaining their best "technical" performance. Mood lighting/vibe, time of day, pretending to take a 20-30 minute break while they jam (but leaving record on and letting them take off the headphones and move around a little), works great for taking that mental pressure off and letting people just jam, or sometimes going the opposite direction and pissing them off so they lay into their instruments and play harder with more intensity. I don't care if someone is throwin daggers with their eyes at me if it gives the performance that makes them go "is that really me?" when they hear it back and get the goosebumps. TOTALLY worth it lol
When doin a band live ike that, you really want to get them to commit to playing full throttle and not think about the fact they are in a studio environment, esp, if they aren't used to it and honestly, it doesn't have to be a fancy studio with top line gear. To me, that's not nearly as important as the vibe and energy, and it never will be. A good producer can make magic out of an old mackie board, good mic technique and some basic dynamics control "going to tape"
This constant need for everything to be perfect in metal has KILLED metal. Metal isn't meant to be sanitary and sterile, in performance OR PRODUCTION. It's a hard thing to balance, but honestly, if you have to spend hours tweaking everything you recorded, then you did it wrong and the more you jump through hoops with plugins and editing, the more life you suck out of it and ultimately, the more it just sounds like every other me too band on the internet. Doesn't matter if it's garage rock or proto tech death, it's not authentic and it comes across, even in music.
The last thing I'll say about going this way is, make sure you make it clear to the band that they MUST be prepared and MUST bring their "A" game as this is also one of the most unforgiving ways to record because it WILL expose you and it WILL cost you, not just money but possibly bandmates and friendships. Been there a couple of times...... I would go so far as to meet with the band a month before and rip em apart where warranted on performance and execution. If they are serious they will appreciate it when it's game time. Thanks for taking the time to read this......
Oh, one more thing........ the only metronome heard is the drummer ( he can have one in his headphones, but that's it)
Hello, how did you minimize the guitars and bass from bleeding into the drum close mics? Last time I recorded off the floor, even with gating, and filtering I had a nard time processing the close mics because there was so much bleed from the vox, guitars and bass. (All recorded in the same room).
It’s all about placement and using the room.
It always depends. We got another live recording course coming up in the academy where we show different possible setups!
Vibe... that is the lightning in the bottle. In that equation, many variables. Ultimately, it comes down to two things 1 Chemistry. If they have it, you will know. 2. Capture
If you know the limitations of your gear. 3. Sound engineering Sculpting the mix to differentiate between the live experience and the cd experience. The cd version is to give enhanced with panning and reverb. Live is... well live. It becomes a living thing. Dare to be Bold
7:07 I feel real nerdy saying this but was the drummer jamming some Meshuggah "I" beats here? Or is that just coincidental. There's a drum part at around 13minutes into 'I" that sounds exactly like what this guy is playing. Sounds effin' cool regardless.
WOW
HELP: When it comes to inverting phases, what exactly should I look for? Squeaks? Fizzyness? Whistles? Awesome content. Thank you so very much, Kohle.
Fullness!
@@KohleAudioKult
There is No Turning Back! Lekkah.
My death metal band does live recordings like this. Our last album was a collection of rehearsal recordings.
Where can we listen man
@@MANGRINDER_band_ Just about anywhere. Bandcamp is probably the best but we are on all streaming services as well. Sanctum Defile is the band name.
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Wird gemacht!
Why is this so unusual? I have done this dozens of times.
Because nobody else is doing this!