That's one hell of a studio, normally you need Superior Drummer and every expansion to get snare option paralysis, but this dude's done it for real! Sounded beautiful though! 😱
What an awesome video!!! Something that you always say is that the cymbals are very important, I changed my cymbals and it was a game changer, not just on the overhead mics, but on the rest of the kit. Thanks Kohle for sharing your knowledge to us. Greetings from México!!!
I have a Black Beauty and had the same problem of it detuning quickly. It’s because of the triple flange hoops they put on them. They’re very maleable. I bought Ludwig brass die cast hoops for my Black Beauty and it fixed the problem immediately. I check tuning with my tune bot and it stays pretty consistent for a good while. You can certainly get through a song before any noticeable movements. I think any Black Beauty (which is my favorite snare and a legend for a reason) really needs the hoops swapped out for die cast hoops. The Ludwig brass die cast hoops I bought for it I think were about $140. Worth every penny.
@@KohleAudioKultI agree totally. Very overpriced. Tama (and others) makes excellent brass snare drums that sounds great live and in the studio, for half the price. Without the tuning problems.
I've commented on this before on another video of yours, but you are so right regarding cymbal thickness. I see so many drummers playing fast, then they barely have time to tap their cymbals, and it ends up not opening up properly. Then, on a slower section where they have time to lay into it, it gets louder than everything else. Ultimately, you get a much more consistent volume when you use thin to medium weight crashes. And also, yes, metal/heavy/power crashes sound atrocious
Also, I have the same tuning problem with my Ludwig Raw Brass snare (basically a Black Beauty without the black coating). I use lug locks on all the screws, and that way it stays perfectly in tune for ages. I'd you recommend you to have a pack at hand for recording sessions, it really helps
Great video! Out of interest, which monitors were you listening on while you were soundchecking? And did you feel like you needed to listen to some well known music in the room on the monitors to overcome the fact that you were unfamiliar with the new environment?
Crazy: You were not interested in listening to the studio's KG D224 on the snare!? Okay, I'm getting it: you wanted to be efficient and so you stuck to your mic. Okay, ... but any other nerd would have at least tried it! ... or was it "just" a 451?
Probably the fact that they're so far apart, so they wanted to get the tweeters closer to each other. This would direct the high frequencies better to the listening position.
@@attekarm Yeah that could be a cause, optimally they should be in 60 degrees 30/30 from the listening position. Although this narrows the stereo field significantly. Guess they liked it like this more in this room.
Cool. I was skeptical at first because of the size of the room. I always prefer big rooms because I feel I'm always fighting the room in smaller spaces. But that's sounded great from the get go. And it's always super satisfying when it sounds good on the way in.
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sounds really good. make a drum sample library with that mic/ room / drummer / kit setup. it’s just perfect
Not a bad idea ;)
@@KohleAudioKultRosewood Drum Sample Pack.
Absolutely fantastic video Kristian! Love that console!
You just got the small one for the new studio? Didn’t you?
@@KohleAudioKult I did and I LOVE it!
That's one hell of a studio, normally you need Superior Drummer and every expansion to get snare option paralysis, but this dude's done it for real! Sounded beautiful though! 😱
Haha! Indeed. It’s crazy
I use the audix d6 for my kick. Ive never had it sound that good before. Learned some new stuff today!!
Very impressive and focused studio. Smart stuff!
you should still check bottom snare head phase do to possible cable polarity issues. 27:41 buy some "lug locks" they work.
I would like to see you use the Lewitt beat kit and beat kit pro sometime. I really do appreciate your knowledge you share. TY
What an awesome video!!! Something that you always say is that the cymbals are very important, I changed my cymbals and it was a game changer, not just on the overhead mics, but on the rest of the kit. Thanks Kohle for sharing your knowledge to us. Greetings from México!!!
Great video my friend! Very helpful information!!
This is killer - thanks 😊
Great video, getting drums right, so you don't have to use (a lot of) samples is a really hard part.
Black beauty is my go-to....but, Joyful noise knight hawk... is tough to beat!
I have a Black Beauty and had the same problem of it detuning quickly. It’s because of the triple flange hoops they put on them. They’re very maleable. I bought Ludwig brass die cast hoops for my Black Beauty and it fixed the problem immediately. I check tuning with my tune bot and it stays pretty consistent for a good while. You can certainly get through a song before any noticeable movements. I think any Black Beauty (which is my favorite snare and a legend for a reason) really needs the hoops swapped out for die cast hoops. The Ludwig brass die cast hoops I bought for it I think were about $140. Worth every penny.
Thanks for the tip! Still unworthy of a snare that costs >1000$ 😤 Don’t you think?
@@KohleAudioKultI agree totally. Very overpriced. Tama (and others) makes excellent brass snare drums that sounds great live and in the studio, for half the price. Without the tuning problems.
I've commented on this before on another video of yours, but you are so right regarding cymbal thickness. I see so many drummers playing fast, then they barely have time to tap their cymbals, and it ends up not opening up properly. Then, on a slower section where they have time to lay into it, it gets louder than everything else. Ultimately, you get a much more consistent volume when you use thin to medium weight crashes. And also, yes, metal/heavy/power crashes sound atrocious
Also, I have the same tuning problem with my Ludwig Raw Brass snare (basically a Black Beauty without the black coating). I use lug locks on all the screws, and that way it stays perfectly in tune for ages. I'd you recommend you to have a pack at hand for recording sessions, it really helps
Looks like we’re on the same page! 🤘❤️
Great
this is cool
geniales video! Was ich auch noch gern mach ist das ich zusätzlich ein subkick mic dazu nehm bei der kick
Ist auch geil, aber meistens braucht man es dann im Metalmix doch nicht!
Paiste Signature cymbals are the best...especially for recording.
Word!
I always find BB snares drop tuning more than a lot of others in the same sort of category of snare
Sweeeeet
I knew you would love it 🤘❤️
Great video! Out of interest, which monitors were you listening on while you were soundchecking? And did you feel like you needed to listen to some well known music in the room on the monitors to overcome the fact that you were unfamiliar with the new environment?
I was listening to the ATCs which immediately made me feel home!
7:40 thank you for saying that. I feel like it should be common knowledge to drummers, but it isn't.
How many snares??? Now, what da fukkk 😆😆😆
We'll come up with a snare drum shoot.out soon!
"whoops, i hit one of your mics on that last drum roll"
😅
Hows it feel to be able to mix on a console again, Kohle?
What's that song at 27:11 sounds haunting
Just a song from an upcoming course inside Kohle Audio Kult 🤩
Crazy: You were not interested in listening to the studio's KG D224 on the snare!? Okay, I'm getting it: you wanted to be efficient and so you stuck to your mic. Okay, ... but any other nerd would have at least tried it! ... or was it "just" a 451?
Is there a reason for having the KH310 monitors upside down?
Probably the fact that they're so far apart, so they wanted to get the tweeters closer to each other. This would direct the high frequencies better to the listening position.
I didn’t ask. I just quickly compared them and immediately went for the ATCs
@@attekarm Yeah that could be a cause, optimally they should be in 60 degrees 30/30 from the listening position. Although this narrows the stereo field significantly. Guess they liked it like this more in this room.
@@KohleAudioKult Yeah, those ATCs rock.
Please call Eloy Casagrande for a recording sesh! That guy hits so hard yet so good... that's what she said!
Cool. I was skeptical at first because of the size of the room. I always prefer big rooms because I feel I'm always fighting the room in smaller spaces. But that's sounded great from the get go. And it's always super satisfying when it sounds good on the way in.
It’s really more about the design than about the size. That’s what I have learned!
@@KohleAudioKult that's what she said
It's time to document all those 200+ snares and 30+ kits into a Superior Drummer Expansion I think ? @Toontrack
27:45 that's the issue with ludwig snare. They sound great, bt you spend more time in the studio tunning your snare than actually playing...
Yes! The hardware is worse than any other snare at half the price.