Rhythm Girl moveset concept (Rhythm Heaven character for Super Smash Bros.)

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  • @togu_mak245
    @togu_mak245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +650

    Her idle animation could be her tap dancing to the beat of the song that is playing on the background and if you turnoff the music she just sits still with cold dead gaze in her shallow but profound souless eyes

    • @tcunningham4373
      @tcunningham4373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      T a p t r o u p sorry if I spelled that wrong ,-;

    • @gravel35
      @gravel35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tcunningham4373 OKAY :D

    • @egon3705
      @egon3705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      this also happens while gamer is playing, except her eyes also glow yellow

  • @hacim42
    @hacim42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1342

    Obviously the best possible Rhythm Heaven character is the elephant playing the bari sax in Monchy Monk 2.

    • @gavino5505
      @gavino5505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I have a love hate relationship with them. On one hand, they are super adorable. On the other hand, their cuteness always distracted me and made me fail my perfect run.

    • @javierolmedo2225
      @javierolmedo2225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      m

    • @nif4345
      @nif4345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh

    • @robertglogowski777
      @robertglogowski777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As a Bari Sax player myself, I 100% agree

    • @SuperDZ555
      @SuperDZ555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No, OBVIOUSLY the 100% ABSOLUTE BEST Rhythm Heaven character is...
      Widget

  • @precisa_
    @precisa_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    25:36 "don't expect anything, my video content is completely unpredictable"
    true, came from the hangman, stuck because of conlangs, got smash rhythm heaven.
    the videos are good and that is what matters

    • @Cabalex
      @Cabalex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think you mean 25:36 lol

    • @precisa_
      @precisa_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Cabalex thanks for telling

    • @맹진영-b7q
      @맹진영-b7q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And we like them all

    • @davidegaruti2582
      @davidegaruti2582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yup , he is completely umpredictable :
      His first smash video was abt. Base 6

    • @nixel1324
      @nixel1324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was introduced to the channel through w. The stuff on this channel is the perfect kind of coherently random.

  • @isaiahgentle427
    @isaiahgentle427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +817

    I'm just thinking about her grabbing Mario by the neck, shaking him up and down, and throwing him away

    • @coastersplus
      @coastersplus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      That'd be the announcement trailer!

    • @sponge1234ify
      @sponge1234ify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Eureka, we've found love!

    • @shellyvision9693
      @shellyvision9693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You mean what Nintendo just did?

    • @r4ls3i7
      @r4ls3i7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      LOVE LAB!

    • @weedlakas9419
      @weedlakas9419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mario will die again but this time with a rhythm

  • @__a_4444
    @__a_4444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1302

    I cannot listen to "Built to Scale" without hearing "Let The Bodies Hit The Floor"

    • @TheRabbitPoet
      @TheRabbitPoet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      And I can't listen to "Dreams of our generation" without hearing "kulupu jan tenpo"

    • @row6666
      @row6666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      same, honestly i think it helps

    • @famicom_guy
      @famicom_guy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I can't listen to "carameldansen" without hearing "every time we touch".

    • @mccookies3664
      @mccookies3664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@TheRabbitPoet For me the ending of "dreams of our generation" feels empty without "vötgil, vötgil, vöt-vötgil"

    • @anxez
      @anxez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's a curse.

  • @Supertimegamingify
    @Supertimegamingify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +747

    Because all of the Rhythm Heaven characters' moves are so... well, rhythmic, they're perfect for a fighting game; they already respond to input snappily by design.

    • @zeppie_
      @zeppie_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      The timing on her moveset should be made so that she should be best playable to a beat at a certain bpm. Perhaps her attacks get an extra sweet spot of you do so to give an incentive

    • @DannyDog27
      @DannyDog27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I think having moves that work like a rhythm game would be way too easy to read/punish and wouldn’t allow very much room for mixups. If your opponent has literally any sense of rhythm they can know more or less exactly when you’ll attack.
      TL;DR if they did add any kind of rhythm game character to smash they’d probably suck

    • @Supertimegamingify
      @Supertimegamingify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DannyDog27 I suppose, maybe some editing would be required.

    • @yonatanbeer3475
      @yonatanbeer3475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@DannyDog27 What if there are a few different beats you can play on. e.g. you can play a quarter tone beat, a 3:2 polyrhythm, a swing rhythm, etc and all are valid for getting whatever incentive they give.

    • @jsihavealotofplaylists
      @jsihavealotofplaylists 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@DannyDog27 if the rythm is determined by the player, like shulks monados, or if the special inputs have different ways of timing them, then it wouldn't be that bad. Like for the damage and knockback idea

  • @tvoltage
    @tvoltage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    I never thought of this until now, but another good character choice for a rhythm heaven rep would simply be a "Rhythm Monkey". Monkeys show up in SO MANY minigames and have plenty of moves you could pull, like tossing the golf ball, hitting the tambourine. Of course there's minigames the video mentions too you can pull moves from. Like tap trial, monkey watch, fan club, etc.
    Not sure if they would be able to pull off the Karate Joe moves though. Or any human proportioned character moves. Or rather, the monkeys COULD do these moves but it would look a bit off.
    But yeah, hmm I feel like this character idea has some legs. Monkeys are so prevalent in the franchise, even if they're more often a supporting role in minigames rather than the character you play as. It makes sense for them to be the face of Rhythm Heaven for Smash, and I'm always a fan of more funny monkeys.
    That said, Rhythm Girl has better alt options, and getting another girl character is even more epic than getting a funny monkey

    • @gardenagnostic
      @gardenagnostic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The monke!!!

    • @suziebelle3738
      @suziebelle3738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      i remember seeing a speedpaint of a fake rhythm heaven announcement, it was of the Rhythm Girl, holding a tamborine with the purple Rhythm Monkey on her arm and a Glee Club member in front of her legs. Their fake announcement called them the "Rhythm Troupe" and i think that those characters together as one fighter (like with Banjo Kazooie) would be pretty smart to do.

    • @an_annoying_cat
      @an_annoying_cat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠@@suziebelle3738missed opportunity to call them the rhythm ensemble

  • @mistermustachiogmc1256
    @mistermustachiogmc1256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2123

    Jan's content really is just whatever the hell he feels like

    • @seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414
      @seilaessecanalnvaitervideo6414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      true thats what i like about his channel

    • @obystarxs.o.1297
      @obystarxs.o.1297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      yeah that's why i like his channel he doesn't have a schedule or anything, he just does whatever when he feels like it

    • @KarolOfGutovo
      @KarolOfGutovo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      And it always happen to be whatever we feel like watching

    • @GuardianChipO
      @GuardianChipO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      helps if you like the content too

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Who is jan?

  • @GibusWearingMann
    @GibusWearingMann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    If anyone's curious _what_ stuff exactly from Rhythm Heaven is already in Smash, here's a list:
    Sneaky Spirit (Smash Run enemy, trophy)
    Karate Joe (trophy, spirit)
    Chorus Kids (trophy, spirit)
    Marshal, Cam, and Miss Ribbon (trophy)
    Wrestler and Reporter (trophy, spirit)
    Wandering Samurai (two spirits)
    Munchy Monk (spirit)
    Sumo Brothers (spirit)
    Sick Beats Doctor (spirit)
    Baxter & Forthington (spirit)
    Blue Birds (song)
    Monkey Watch (song)
    Fruit Basket (song)

    • @GibusWearingMann
      @GibusWearingMann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Lem I listed him as having two spirits in Ultimate to try and indicate that.

    • @kirklinguinihoodinithecubo8525
      @kirklinguinihoodinithecubo8525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I'm gonna make a guess at what new spirits we would get.
      Space Sister and the Cosmic Dancers (Purple Rhythm Girl and 4 Purple Luigis) 2 Stars
      *_Stage Conditions_*
      *The opponent prefers Smash attacks. Gravity is reduced.*
      The RAPMEN and the Rap Women (2 Mii Brawlers with different looks, but both look similar to the RAPMEN. Once both Rap Men are defeated, 2 more Mii Brawlers appear, resembling the Rap Women.) 2 Stars
      *The opponent prefers Down Smash attacks. Reinforcements will appear after the main fighters are KO'd. Specific items will occasionally drop (Bob-Ombs to simulate the action you do in Rap Men).*
      Widgets (Grey ROB) 2 Stars
      *The opponent prefers Down Specials.*
      T.J Snapper (School White Joker) 2 Stars
      *Hostile Assist Trophies will appear. The opponent loves to taunt.*
      Ann Glerr (Blue Isabelle) 2 Stars
      *The opponent prefers Side Specials.*
      Pitcher and Slugger (Pink Rhythm Girl and Yellow Terry) 3 Stars
      *Specific items will occasionally drop. (Home-Run Bat and Beastball because their minigame, Exhibition Match, is all about baseball.) The opponent is attracted towards items.*
      Pop Singer and the Monkey Fans (Yellow Rhythm Girl and 4 White Diddy Kongs) 3 Stars
      *The opponent loves to taunt. The opponent (the Diddy Kongs) love to jump. The opponent (the Diddy Kongs) prefer Up Smashes.*
      Research Scientists of Love Lab (Green Rhythm Girl, White Link and Orange Fox) 3 Stars
      *The opponent prefers grabs and throws. Periodic earthquakes will shake the stage.*
      Play-Yan (White Mr. Game and Watch) 3 Stars
      *Specific items will occasionally drop. (Kirby's Warp Star, Slingstar, Super Star to represent the stars from Night Walk GBA) The opponent is attracted by items. The opponent loves to jump.)
      Karate Joe's Father (Black Ken and Grey Ryu) 4 Stars
      *The opponent's melee attacks are significantly stronger. The opponent prefers Smash attacks. The opponent prefers Air attacks. The opponent prefers Up Specials. Reinforcements will appear after some time.*
      Tanaka and Kanojo (The Man and Woman from Remix 5 GBA and Ninja Reincarnate (Final Alt Rhythm Girl and Teal Link)
      *The opponent prefers Smash attacks. The opponent prefers Normal Specials. Strengthened Weapon.*
      Tibby (Red Kirby and Light Blue Rhythm Girl) 5 Stars
      *Reinforcements will appear when the main fighter is badly damaged. Defeat the main fighter to win. Timed Stamina Battle.*
      Barista (White Duck Hunt) 5 Stars
      *Take your strongest team into this no-frills battle.*
      I went all out on this. Holy shit.

    • @kirklinguinihoodinithecubo8525
      @kirklinguinihoodinithecubo8525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Henry Amazeing Pink Mr. Game and Watch Army 2 Stars
      *Left and Right controls are reversed periodically. The enemy prefers dash attacks.*

    • @ncisfan1002
      @ncisfan1002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kirklinguinihoodinithecubo8525 Isn't Karate Joe's dad officially named Karate Senior?

    • @kirklinguinihoodinithecubo8525
      @kirklinguinihoodinithecubo8525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ncisfan1002 Not really. His official name according to the Rhythm Heaven Wiki is just Karate Joe's Father, but his full name is Karate Joe Senior and his game is called Karate Man Senior.

  • @duncathan_salt
    @duncathan_salt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +860

    It's worth pointing out that there was a sort of spiritual rhythm heaven representation in melee - wobbling :)

    • @electroflame6188
      @electroflame6188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      that's rhythm hell

    • @tessalexander4569
      @tessalexander4569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      let’s go army wooooo

    • @CinnaSwirls
      @CinnaSwirls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If only I could just put up my shield
      Jab! Up tilt up tilt up tilt
      Then I could make the foe play honestly
      And not die to wobbling
      *rhythmic smash death sounds in place of the clapping*

    • @thatoneguy9582
      @thatoneguy9582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      200 bpm moment

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Is it wavedashing that makes me want to quit, quit, quit?
      It’s wobbling! (Wobbling, hey)
      Hate it, hate it, hate it...
      More than yesterday!
      That wobbling! (Wobbling, hey)

  • @TRDario
    @TRDario 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1560

    I love how this channel somehow hosts shit for two radically different interests of mine: rhythm heaven and conlangs

    • @spiderstheythem
      @spiderstheythem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      this is how i feel about kayturs, who makes both videos about hyperbolic geometry AND music using the locrian mode

    • @robhillen8007
      @robhillen8007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I love both those thing, and this video specifically also aligns with my love for smash bros

    • @bane2201
      @bane2201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@spiderstheythem I hadn't heard of that channel and I *immediately* subscribed, thank you. If you know of any other "buried treasure" channels like that, let me know!

    • @remiwi2399
      @remiwi2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Game design and conlanging... If he weren't a guy, I'd wonder if in the future I invented time travel!

    • @tegxi
      @tegxi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I really stared at the name of the channel for so long wondering why I knew it so well, this content is just so radiclly different from what I'm used to from him

  • @ejpw
    @ejpw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    This is the second time I have said, "Hey, there's someone in the credits with the same name as me! Oh, right."

  • @yeetoburrito6445
    @yeetoburrito6445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    As someone who doesn't even own a switch and only dabbled in DS and Fever (and forgot about the series for like a decade lol), I now fully support you and 100% hope this happens. For what it's worth, your Rhythm Heaven content got me to bust out my old DS a while ago and charge it up just to come back to Built to Scale, so as someone who absolutely did not come to your channel for Rhythm Heaven content, I really appreciate the nostalgia hit videos like this give me.

  • @toekneemart5597
    @toekneemart5597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Can we just take some time to appreciate how well he timed the background footage with the music - even when it was non-essential - I was mime-playing the minigames nearly the whole video and it always lined up perfectly with what was shown on screen

  • @ellasbian
    @ellasbian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +593

    he put so much rhythm heaven music in it so that it would get content id'd and nintendo would see it

  • @nobodyeverinhistory
    @nobodyeverinhistory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +480

    crowd: "pose for the fans"
    Rhythm Girl: *Suddenly becomes as muscular as the tank from Left4Dead and flexes all of her glorious muscles.*
    ==G A M E==

    • @mickeymousehotdog
      @mickeymousehotdog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But she is a girl

    • @nobodyeverinhistory
      @nobodyeverinhistory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@mickeymousehotdog Your point being...?

    • @youtubeuniversity3638
      @youtubeuniversity3638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya know somebody has to homd the mic correct?

    • @xhantTheFirst
      @xhantTheFirst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@youtubeuniversity3638 An unmuscular version of the guy she's interviewing
      Obviously

    • @_marshP
      @_marshP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xhantTheFirst No no, it's gonna be a monkey.

  • @rex-1141
    @rex-1141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    8:29 I think it was implied but she should totally match the cadence of her bounces to the tempo of the stage music playing

    • @ellaelf5860
      @ellaelf5860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Princess cadance

  • @shengshu3510
    @shengshu3510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I finally get why jan misali posted that one video about letting the bodies built to scale

  • @kitsovereign4127
    @kitsovereign4127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I love the ideas, but I'm just really impressed to the effort you put in to sync the clean audio up with the original gameplay footage, in addition to the transition between final remixes! Great stuff.

  • @J3Puffin
    @J3Puffin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Hearing Dreams of Our Generation in its original form was somehow unexpected but veeeeeery welcome. Soooo good.

    • @mskiptr
      @mskiptr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was so programmed by conlang critic, that I immediately thought
      "is he gonna plug toki pona here?
      Eee…
      Ah, ok it's JP, NOT TP."

  • @DrPumpkinz
    @DrPumpkinz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I went into this video extremely skeptical, as I find most fan-made Smash movesets to be very poorly designed. I was very pleasantly surprised. This moveset is great.
    The "make literally every move a reference to something" approach to moveset design is far too overused in fan-made movesets, but it _can_ work well in some cases, and Rhythm Heaven's wacky and eccentric gameplay makes Rhythm Girl's amalgamation of references feel right at home next to fighters like Wii Fit Trainer and Mr. Game & Watch. Additionally, the special moves are unique, interesting, and utilize rhythm in clever ways, while avoiding the trap of being extremely gimmicky or divergent from standard Smash design. Plus, she has three different projectiles and all of them are tricky, which means she'd probably be played as zoner, and I love me a good zoner.
    I think the only part I disagree on is I think neutral air and up air should be swapped. The Monkey Watch hi-five would work better as an up air, since the monkey on the second hand always slaps above its head, and I'm having trouble visualizing how Rhythm Girl would move when using it as a neutral air. The flip honestly works fine as an up air, but it would also work fine as a neutral air. Think Villager, Bowser, and Kirby.

    • @ianmason3357
      @ianmason3357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought the same exact thing about neutral air and up air. And I agree that this moveset slaps

  • @PilkScientist
    @PilkScientist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    oh hell yeah some wacky non-format misalian content, let's go

  • @robhillen8007
    @robhillen8007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    Atypical character and franchise choice. Moves having a clear inspiration that's also intuitively what that move would be. Top notch music choice. This is a solid smash fighter concept video!
    It's not a big deal, but I would have liked a discussion of her classic mode route. Also, I think Uair and Nair would make more sense if they were swapped, since the monkey swings over head quickly while the flip would hit all around and be dangerous for the entire revolution. I have some hitbox ideas for it if you want to hear it.

    • @computer-love
      @computer-love 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      what do you mean "if you want to hear it" *hell yes we want to hear it*

    • @robhillen8007
      @robhillen8007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@computer-love ​ @eudoxia ̊
      The down smash would be two hitboxes; a vertical pill from her head to the foot of the retracted leg, and a horizontal one from her stomach to the foot of the extended leg. The vertical one would send behind her at an upwards diagonal while the horizontal one would send in the direction she's facing at a similar but slightly shallower angle.
      I think it would be cool if, for the up smash, she does the leg sweep right before the uppercut, which would make it possible to hit grounded opponents that aren't phasing into her without it looking janky. The leg sweep would be a simple horizontal pill that's noticeably thicker than her model, while the pow would be the same but vertically oriented. The sweep would have fixed knockback and obviously be angled to land you in the place where the punch appears. The reason I say the sweep hitbox is thicker is so she can use it to hit below the ledge, but the upwards trajectory of a typical up smash makes it not too powerful of an edgeguarding option.
      Forward tilt would be pretty simple, being a spherical hitbox on that cover from the club head up one third of the club's length. The rest of the club would be a sourspot, and the hands and arms would be what I call a bitterspot. the sweetspot send at an upwards diagonal with above average damage for an ftilt, but slightly below average knockback. The sourspot would send closer to horizontally out, less damage, but deal the same amount of knockback. The bitterspot would deal much less kockback than both, but deal the same damage as the sourspot. I can't think of what direction the bitterspot would logically send in, so I'll just say it sends strait up because combos and jank.
      Up tilt would be pretty simple in layout. A big hitbox that extends from around her forehead to a bit above the hands, lasting from right before the hands touch to right before she takes them apart. It would be almost purely anti-air, sending strait up and lacking the power needed to be a kill move. I say almost because you would probably be able to hit big guys like DK and K Rool even when they're grounded, and then combo the move into itself several times because their weight prevents them from escaping. If that seems unfair, it can be an aerial only hitbox so grounded opponents are unaffected by it.
      Down tilt would also have a pretty simple layout. Sweetspot on the foot, and sourspot on the leg. I really want to say that the foot could two-frame and would spike, but that would almost definitely be broken as heck. Inst'ead, it sends at normal angles and does moderate damage... *to grounded opponents*. if it hits an aerial opponent, it spikes and boy does it. I don't think it would be broken though, since it would be hard to have your foot far enough out to kill them in the bottom blast zone rather than bounce upward off the stage.
      For her dair, it's just a pill extending from her head to her legs. It would spike for the first couple frames, then send straight up until she hit the ground. She does the landing pose when hitting an opponent and when landing. You can act out of the move after 1 second (I hate stall and falls that don't let you do that until you're already in the blast zone), but if don't act out of it, a small hitbox that just barely covers both feet appears that once again spikes. The initial spike would have regular knockback scaling, but this new one would have fixed knockback so you always die second. Think of it as a reward for dedicating your life to the stall and fall. Theoretically, though, you could hit someone with the fixed spike and then up b out of it back to stage without dying, which would be kind of broken, make people very salty when it works on them, and be hilarious to see happen 100% of time. There is a landing hitbox, but it just trips the opponent and doesn't do much damage. the tripping might be possible to use as a kill confirm, but I think it would be fine if it wasn't useful for much else.
      The uair would just be a slightly faster and decently weaker version of DK's, but replace the headbutt with a hand swinging overhead. One hitboxe would be attached to and a fair bit bigger than the hand. Perhaps give it a sourspot on the arm, but It would probably be fine without one.
      Having the flip as the nair, the head would make the most sense as the sweetspot. It would launch away and do moderate damage for a single hit. The torso would be the sourspot, doing slightly less damage and much less knockback. The sourspot would be harder to kill with, but easier to combo into other moves. The legs would deal barely any damage, but would have an autolink angle to make it easier to get hit by the head which would be half a revolution behind. The torso and leg hitboxes would make the most sense being the pill shaped ones so they would cover the most area.
      You know Sephiroth's bair? Imagine that, but with a tennis racket. It would be one hitbox centered on the net of the racket with almost the strength of that sweetcpot. That might be overtuned, but it's probably not overpowered with how it doesn't have much range. She would wind up her swing to make the startup and power more believable.
      Fair would just be bair but much weaker and much faster. It would also be a downward swing rather than horizontal to give it more effective area. Maybe a windbox could extend from the tip that slightly pushes opponents down and/or away, but that's adding complexity where it's completely unnecessary (like I haven't done that already).
      Specials are special and get to have weird non-hitbox properties that I don't understand, so I'll be talking more conceptually. I also don't know much about how projectile hitboxes work, probably because most projectiles are tied to specials. I *do* know that in order for the balloons to be poppable by other players, they have to have hurtboxes that can take damage, but also need coding to not register it as being damage taken by rhythm girl.
      To make the side b not a bad idea to use, I'd make it so the baseball take knockback like Wii Fit Trainer's side b, but make it so Rhythm Girl can move as soon as the monkey catches the ball. This would allow Rhythm girl to run to where the monkey will throw the ball, and hit it with any of her moves. This would give it crazy versatility and mixup potential, as she can hit it in several different directions and at varrying speeds, leading to many potential trajectories to use to your advantage. Since the opponent can also hit it if they have good timing and it can be blocked by stages and platforms, it shouldn't be versatile to the point of being a "solves all your problems" type move. I think it would be pretty funny if not hitting it allowed it to function as a gimping tool, especially with how insanely telegraphed it would be.
      What if the umbrella allowed other players to recover with you via some demonic windbox that somehow deals damage? Even worse! What if it's a normal hitbox that deals knockback without putting you in hitstun? The thought terrifies me.
      I don't know enough about crop stomp to say what the different turnips' properties would be or if they would have such, so I'll just say it's a reskin of peach's down b. Sorry.
      I know nothing about how final smash hitboxes work, to the point that I don't know if they even use the same hitbox types and formatting as the rest of the game, and this one specifically is conceptually simple so there's not much for me to say on it.
      I was very much ready for bed when I wrote this, so sorry if it was rambly/incoherent.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then what would the overall archetype of Rhythm Girl be? Would she be some close range fighter that could trap (I am thinking especially about Built to Scale for ledgetrapping and catching landings, Crop Stomp as a hard punish, etc)? Would she be the Rhythm Heaven version of Ness (average stats, good aerials, a good yet predictable and punishable Up B, side B that are smashes, references to the entirety of his/her series and not just her because he/she has very little attacks of his/her own, references as detailed to their series as much as Smash Bros. Ultimate can spare)? Would she play like Zelda (strong, identical back air and forwards air, a neutral B/down Bthat controls space based on timing and has different attacking properties based on how quickly you get Neutral B/down B out)?

    • @robhillen8007
      @robhillen8007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@iantaakalla8180 To me, she sounds like a brawler nightmare with a few powerful trapping and zoning tools. She has a decent offstage presence, ledge trapping, aerial, anti aerial and combo game, and has several ways to get you to high percent and no shortage of ways to kill you once she gets you there. In other words, a very good character (on paper anyways). She does have an exploitable recovery, but that's only a problem if you get hit or go too deep for the offstage plays.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just realized that down tilt having spiking properties is the best version of Luigi’s down taunt.

  • @ookazi1000
    @ookazi1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Honestly, I could watch jan Misali talk about literally anything.

    • @therealbeanbot
      @therealbeanbot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Seriously. He could talk about an obscure Game And Watch with Luigi and I would- oh wait

    • @iomoonofjuputer
      @iomoonofjuputer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@therealbeanbot youre at the right channel then bc this is that

    • @DE23
      @DE23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I could watch him talk about the L button for 23 minutes because Scott won't

  • @bassdasdwadsasdasw
    @bassdasdwadsasdasw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I didn't think I'd be interested in this video but somehow you turned me into a devout supporter for a Rhythm Heaven character in Smash lol

  • @KazuTree
    @KazuTree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    "I'm an Esperantist, the language with the largest~~~"

  • @ruddycrock
    @ruddycrock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "I like Chorus Kid as much as the next he/they" instantly subbed

  • @mattgikarp79
    @mattgikarp79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Spirit ideas:
    -monkey watch (fight a swarm of tiny diddy kongs on umbra clock tower)
    -rhythm wrestler (incineroar with the fatal frame assist trophy)
    -munchy monk (mii brawler with a lot of food spawns on spirit tracks)
    -the goat from that pachinko mini game in megamix (villager and isabelle just spam turnip moves)
    Win screen animations:
    1. Barista comes by and rhythm girl gives her a pet
    2. Rhythm girl, the tap monkeys and the giraffe do their tap routine
    3. Rhythm girl hits a light bulb, then punch-kicks a barrel with a bomb in it (the bomb explodes in the background)

    • @Melecie
      @Melecie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i'd say cheer readers with just a full army of of robins spamming spells
      also don't we already have wrestler and munchy monk as a spirit

    • @mattgikarp79
      @mattgikarp79 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Melecie yoooo cheer readers would be perfect. I havent touched spirits in a long while so I guess i forgot about the RH spirits that are already in lol

  • @jons4192
    @jons4192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I love this. so much.
    Only things i'd change are to give her a paper-mario style 'sweetspot' on her normal/grab attacks; all of them are multi attack anyway so they should do more damage if you hit the attack button on beat with the animation (or if you release the attack button on the final beat)
    Maybe for extra spice her animations for those attacks could match the BPM of the background music - only if hazards are on of course since it changes her frame-data.
    Also maaaybe the monkey on side-b should be a mixup; have her launch a fast-ball projectile on tap, or you can hold to charge it; passing the ball to the monkey while taking out a bat - the monkey soft-balls it back to rhythm girl on release with it reaching a sweet-spot range after the same amount of time as he charge was held (max 1 second or 2 beats)

    • @aldguton
      @aldguton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For the final point no, that would be very funny

  • @minakamo
    @minakamo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    here's an idea:
    maybe instead of using just the karate man song from tengoku, there could be a karate medley, containing karate man tempo up from the arcade, struck by the rain, and lonely storm, with some snippets from the megamix version.

  • @cubeofdestiny
    @cubeofdestiny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    "This isn't a list of my favorite rhythm heaven songs"
    Can we get a list of those?

    • @TheLegend2T
      @TheLegend2T 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It would be very long

    • @atavoidirc5409
      @atavoidirc5409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that would be a list of all rhythm heaven song

  • @JamesSmith-rb5lv
    @JamesSmith-rb5lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    What even is this channel at this point? I love it!!

    • @the-bruh.cum5
      @the-bruh.cum5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      whatever he wants to post

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s the gimmick

    • @thenewtonium3521
      @thenewtonium3521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The greatest thing made by man.
      hope that clears things up.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A channel who’s main gimmick is conlangs but does whatever they want, but is centered around music they produce, memes, Rhythm Heaven and deep dives into more interesting facts about topic not analyzed much int mainstream culture (thus the hangman and 48 regular polyhedral videos).
      But no matter what, it will have a black background and professional Times New Roman font.

  • @danielesmay6246
    @danielesmay6246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Jan Misali is a mystery box of a TH-cam channel. Sometimes it follows a theme, yet its always unpredictable.

  • @lrgogo1517
    @lrgogo1517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    i wish i could put the whole Rhythm Heaven OST in Smash... u_u .. *u n l e s s* -jan Misali, prior to literally nominating two final remix tracks for inclusion

  • @Natibe_
    @Natibe_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It’s honestly just really refreshing watching your channel, man. You kind of have topics but really it feels like your channel just represents you, not some niche you fell into and had to fill but just who you are. I don’t know you, I don’t know who you are. But this channel makes me feel like I do, and that’s a far cry from all the trending page millionaire vlogs and overproduced Minecraft channels.
    Thanks so much for being like this, Misali. As a fan chaser myself I know sometimes I feel inadequate because I don’t have as many likes or followers or w/e as someone else does. I hope you never feel that way, your channel is more valuable than a hundred ten-million-sub family vlog channels. I just want you to know that. o7

  • @AphidKirby
    @AphidKirby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is wonderful!!!!! Such a thorough idea for good representation of a very beloved franchise! I couldn’t stop wishing this was real every second of the video

  • @Gayd1
    @Gayd1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    24:02 oh my god, that trasition is so perfect

  • @Tippex_Official
    @Tippex_Official 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The second I saw remix 8 I went ‘yes’ audibly. It’s my favourite rhythm paradise/heaven song thus far.

  • @reimuhakurei3311
    @reimuhakurei3311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Oh Rhythm Heaven in smash that looks neat ill put that it watch lat- JAN MISALI?? LETS WATCH IT NOW!"

  • @dappercuttlefish9557
    @dappercuttlefish9557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This was cool! It's always exciting to see what new thing I'll learn about from your channel.
    Also, he/they pog. I'm a he/it!

  • @CaptainMeleon
    @CaptainMeleon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i love how you just post whatever you want and i'm always interested, keep doing everything you like cause it's really fun to watch

  • @tvb5509
    @tvb5509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You have no idea how happy this made me. Honestly overwhelmed with joy because I can tell you genuinely love the series

  • @sarajohnsson4979
    @sarajohnsson4979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have never played a smash game or a rhythm heaven game and I still watched this all the way through

  • @complienscreator00
    @complienscreator00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    love lab rhythm girl new main

  • @unamusedyami2618
    @unamusedyami2618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    omg!!! this is such a fun concept!!! I'm very tempted to draw Rhythm Girl and her alts now

    • @unamusedyami2618
      @unamusedyami2618 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      idk if i can link things on here, but! I posted doodles on my twitter @unamusedyami !

  • @Lulululuc
    @Lulululuc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just love how Flock Step was used to transition from Remix 10 to Final Remix
    *byootiful*

  • @jeroenjoetjoep
    @jeroenjoetjoep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Never played Rhythm Heaven, don’t know anything about it (other than Let The Bodies Built To Scale), couldn’t care less about the game. But man... I’ve watched 26 minutes in pure amazement! Hats off, jan Misali!

  • @Cutekitty858
    @Cutekitty858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video rules massively, so much in-depth knowledge/research, engaging commentary, and it's so nice to find someone who loves the Rhythm Heaven franchise as much as I do!

  • @hunterst.arnold6646
    @hunterst.arnold6646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I swear, the part where you are going over the new music arrangements is so well done, inserting "I suppose" to line with it's appearance in the song was pretty clever. Don't get me started on the seamless transition between the Flockstep part of Remix 10 to Final Remix, that was PERFECT!

  • @Tippex_Official
    @Tippex_Official 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would be fitting if they made a rhythm heaven character the last DLC character added, as rhythm heaven games are well known for being late releases on their consoles.

  • @seanyproductions
    @seanyproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No joke, this video is what got me into Rhythm Heaven. After watching this my recommended was flooded with RH videos so I impulse bought Megamix on the eShop. Now it’s one of my favorite Nintendo series. thank you for introducing me to this amazing series!

  • @GravityTheGhost
    @GravityTheGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I totally dig the "Go for a Perfect!" P being the series logo.

  • @a52productions
    @a52productions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really love all the miscellaneous content you put out -- a lot of it is stuff I'm not into myself, but your enthusiasm for it is so infectious! As somebody with my own wide and unrelated collection of intense interests, I can't help but enjoy your passion.
    Also somebody should make her in Mugen or something

  • @danieldelmara
    @danieldelmara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just want to comment again saying that this is honestly one of my favorite video essays at the moment its such a good analysis and I love how passionately and how well put together this is. Thanks for this and I hope for more in depth rhythm heaven essay content soon.

  • @row6666
    @row6666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    this came out as i was playing rhythm heaven ds

  • @tux1468
    @tux1468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Everyone here is like "Wow! A channel for conlangs AND rhythm heaven? This caters to my extremely niche interests!" even though I am only interested in one of those things

    • @starrats444
      @starrats444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i wasn’t interested in either before jan misali

  • @Claire-gz4tr
    @Claire-gz4tr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Don't get me wrong, I like chorus kid as much as the next he/they" lol

  • @pugglelover135
    @pugglelover135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my god, the amount of sheer joy I got from watching this video. I love this idea so much (also that transition at 24:00 between Both Flock Steps? Very good 👌)

  • @Agnes.Nutter
    @Agnes.Nutter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’ve been asking for her for years! Nice :D

  • @Naturally-Bright
    @Naturally-Bright 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, i forgot just how much I love rhythm heaven and it's songs!!! Tap trial girl is one of my favorite RH Characters, so I was geeking out the whole time!!! Awesome video, and have a splendid day!!

  • @gamerkaue88
    @gamerkaue88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the absolute mosh of different content this channel has.

  • @lucasrickard1
    @lucasrickard1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Transitioning from remix 10 to final remix during flockstep, very clean

  • @rorysparshott4223
    @rorysparshott4223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel I now get so many jan misali references now

  • @3thanguy7
    @3thanguy7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    incredible Jan Misali content

  • @Patricia_Taxxon
    @Patricia_Taxxon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    wubalubalub is that true

    • @HBMmaster
      @HBMmaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      hm.

    • @ChaiKirbs
      @ChaiKirbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Almost certainly

    • @TRDario
      @TRDario 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      whoa you go big guy

  • @DWN037
    @DWN037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll accept this moveset only if you can dodge Ringside by pushing the taunt button to the same timing cue as in the minigame
    Edit: forgot to say screw you, Micro-Row rules, in a perfect world it would get its own new arrangement, screw you again, subscribed

  • @user-dv5qq9hv4i
    @user-dv5qq9hv4i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very glad Misali included the Monkey Song
    Rhythm Heaven has the best monkeys in the videogame industry

  • @ClassicBentobox
    @ClassicBentobox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like when it auto plays from a complicated breakdown on naming bases that doesn’t associate them with decimal to a smash character speculation/hope talk

  • @scrappedmetal
    @scrappedmetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    would the songs have the sound effects from the games? listening through them all i felt like they were all missing stuff, but some of the sound effects could understandably be distracting in background music. maybe new, more subtle but still kinda punchy instruments could play the sounds the player usually inputs? i guess that would technically make every song a bit of a new arrangement but i'd assume it'd be fairly simple

    • @GravityGuava
      @GravityGuava 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ringside sounds so strange without “Wubba dubba dub, is that true?”

  • @dialog_box
    @dialog_box 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like to think that for the final smash, if you're caught in the attack and you taunt at exactly the right time you receive reduced damage

  • @jack97611
    @jack97611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    21:20 but Misali, you've already rearranged Built to Scale

  • @Trashley652
    @Trashley652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel really is all over the place and I love it

  • @DavidMismo
    @DavidMismo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    *yes*
    I love Ultimate and all, but to me Smash will never feel complete without a Rhythm Heaven fighter, too bad it's as you say and it most likely won't be DLC (hope we're wrong in this one). This video sounds like a dream -of our generation- to me.

  • @CyanSoCalico
    @CyanSoCalico 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apart from how godlike this video is as-is and how faithful it is to the entire Rhythm Heaven franchise while being diverse in its references, the "speaking of idles/idols" transition at 8:41 was genius and sent me into a laughing fit

  • @elemenopi9239
    @elemenopi9239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    can’t wait for this to be a near perfect prediction like that steve video

    • @mothtolias
      @mothtolias 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait did jan predict steve??

    • @elemenopi9239
      @elemenopi9239 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mothtolias no, paperkitty did

  • @genuineangusbeef8697
    @genuineangusbeef8697 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how despite not really doing Smash stuff you still ended up doing this better than a lot of people who exclusively make Smash stuff. The effort shows.

  • @Weebusaurus
    @Weebusaurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video makes me sad, not because Rhythm Girl didn't make it into Ultimate, but because even when a Rhythm Heaven rep DOES make it into a future Smash game (which I think is at least plausible) it won't have as much love and attention put into it as this.

  • @frozenfeet4534
    @frozenfeet4534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "don't get me wrong, i like chorus kid as much as the next he/they" you CAN'T keep calling me out like this misali

  • @scusachannel1682
    @scusachannel1682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    "I love Chorus Kid as much as the next he/they"
    As a she person, how dare you! Grrrr

  • @remiwi2399
    @remiwi2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also can I just say that your video essay's are probably the biggest to the way I write my college essays. Even with 100k subs you are criminally underrated

  • @Miju001
    @Miju001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've never agreed more with a Rhythm Heaven take than when you talked about the Karate Man songs

  • @ClownOwO
    @ClownOwO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome back to another episode of "Wait i got through the whole video only realizing at the end it was jan Misali??" You just make such good and varied content that I assume the algorithm just has me figured out but no it's just you

  • @Xentipiiides
    @Xentipiiides 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i click on a video in my reccomended
    "oh hey rhythm heaven! that makes sense ive been watching a bunch of that lately"
    watches it
    recognizes the intro
    "...OH YEAH!!!! this is the guy who's on my weird niche math and physics playlist who got me to join the polyhedra discord thing! huh, damn."

  • @dovax396
    @dovax396 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    your love and bias and attitude towards these games makes me so happy, it's so cute! "It's just the best song there is."

  • @cheesybutler9544
    @cheesybutler9544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    19:57 had me actually dying

  • @thespeedyyoshi
    @thespeedyyoshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my gosh, that transition from remix 10 to final remix was FLAWLESS

  • @wuwubean
    @wuwubean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "I love Chorus Kids as much as the next he/they" oh so this is just a universal experience then. good to know.

  • @WaffledFlambe
    @WaffledFlambe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That 100K subscriber milestone video you made a few months ago sent me down a rabbit hole that ended with me buying Rhythm Heaven on eBay; now I'm slowly making my way through the game and loving it! Thanks for introducing me to this franchise ^_^

  • @danieldelmara
    @danieldelmara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sometime i want to watch you make a whole video on the Rhythm Heaven series in its fulness

  • @HomeWingGamer
    @HomeWingGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a pleasant surprise of a topic! and a very solid concept for a character to boot!
    I think the only move i think might need a change is Built to Scale, since standing around and pressing B five times for a single projectile might be not that good to use, even in terms of casual play. Maybe instead it could summon one of the squares to roll forwards to the B-press beat, with that fifth press being the rod hitting the square to deal a lot more powerful of a hit?

  • @gburn2640
    @gburn2640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Barista, the dog from the cafe would be the best choice (He appears in every game actually), I'm mostly influeced by this:
    th-cam.com/video/k5SnNpZ4RCw/w-d-xo.html

  • @tobysuren
    @tobysuren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never played any of these games but those songs *SLAP*

  • @jdsonical
    @jdsonical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dont even play smash nor rhythm heaven but i still watched
    wat am i doin wit ma life

  • @kevinfagaragan
    @kevinfagaragan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Built to Scale Special Move and the "P" as the series symbol. Really cool seeing people's interpretations on how a Rhythm Heaven Character could work. Great job with this.

  • @phineas7423
    @phineas7423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As someone who has never played these games, I cant help but hear you sing kulupu jan tenpo over dreams of our generation.

  • @MarloweOrionBasset
    @MarloweOrionBasset 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    seeing as youre the person who got me into Rhythm Heaven (ive been watching videos on it non-stop for like 5 days now), seeing this pop up in my notifications was very fun

  • @electromika
    @electromika 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    tfw will probably never get a new rhythm heaven game in the near future

    • @tankerwife2001
      @tankerwife2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      why do you say that?

    • @galliumthe31st
      @galliumthe31st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tankerwife2001 well one of the directors and vocalists got a surgery which causes him to like, never be able to song again so uhhh thatll be trouble

    • @ari-mariberry
      @ari-mariberry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@galliumthe31st
      He's still willing to do another Rhythm Heaven game, plus he's only done vocals for only two songs in the series - he usually just gets other singers from his company to do vocals

  • @torrent6181
    @torrent6181 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love how nearly every topic for which you make a video, despite being radically diverse, is really pretty interesting. I guess you just have good taste 😂

  • @karabearcomics
    @karabearcomics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not having even heard of this series until seeing the videos on this channel, I'll say that when you played "Dreams of Our Generation" here, some part of me kept wanting to hear "Votgil".

  • @solanceDarkMOW
    @solanceDarkMOW 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't mean to watch this whole video in one sitting, but i did. My hats off to ya!
    I'm a recent fan of Rhythm Heaven Fever and i absolutely suck at it, but i love it. This is an incredible concept and i hope we get something like it.