Targa Florio 1972 Alfa Romeo Tipo 33

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  • @kiwi335d
    @kiwi335d 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Thanks for generously recommending this video Neil Clifford.

  • @PC-lv8dq
    @PC-lv8dq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    You know what i really liked about that romantic era? Yes, there was money involved, but it was mainly about the passion for motorracing. The drivers, although they needed more bravery than nowadays, more seemed ordinary men that you could ask for a signature or even do a quick conversation with if you were lucky, now it all really has become something very stiff, only reserved for the elite of the elite, where you can't actually talk to or compare yourself to as a casual fan. It used to be a little bit more 'left wing'. I don't say i have no respect for the drivers nowadays, but for me these guys stay the real heroes forever. End of the '60s, begin '70s was the most dangerous but also the most beautiful of all motorsport eras. Thx for posting this little gem of a movie!

    • @team3383
      @team3383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Every single successful spectator sport on the planet has been taken over by "federations" that rule them and sell them out for TV rights for BIG money. This is why motorsport has become so regulated and boring now.
      Todays drivers aren't people with a life, they start driving competitively at the age of 5 or 6 and know nothing else.
      Its sad.
      Business and corporations have taken over.
      I used to enjoy watching International Rugger games when you knew that the week after the top games the men playing would all be back at work, most in manual jobs, some in shops etc.
      Then it turned professional and the game changed, the people changed the players look like body builders etc.
      Sad sad world.
      I soumd like my forefathers, but boy do I understand them now when they said the same things about us !!!

    • @mikefannon6994
      @mikefannon6994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes. not that long ago you could drive your MG, Triumph, 240Z, Jag, etc. to an SCCA race, paint on a number, tape the headlights, strap on your helmet, and go racing! TV money has killed all amateur sports. Even Olympics.

    • @donniecapobianco8794
      @donniecapobianco8794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's funny cause racing competitions started out as an event of the elites.

    • @GTE_Channel
      @GTE_Channel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And in theory anyone could build a good racing car in his own shed. What a great times this must have been

    • @Toby_the_Glen
      @Toby_the_Glen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sponsors changed motorsport?

  • @salvatorep.1685
    @salvatorep.1685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Questo non è un documentario ma un monumento.

  • @paulsnider174
    @paulsnider174 12 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    This piece is from, in my opinion, the best documentary ever on motor racing, "The Speed Merchants" by Michael Keyser. Shot in 1972, it debuted at Watkins Glen during the 1973 6Hour/Can-Am weekend where I saw it while I was there photographing a Porsche 917 driver for publicity. I miss the simplicity, and cars of those times.

  • @farmer_siv
    @farmer_siv 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Niel Clifford sent me here. 😅

    • @andtip
      @andtip 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Me too 😂

    • @bh-pn1tr
      @bh-pn1tr 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Was that Neil with an 'e'? If so, it's the same for me!

  • @Demetris.Yiokkas
    @Demetris.Yiokkas 10 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Best ever documentary in motor sport. Captures the romantic era like no other. Thanks Michael Keyser

    • @Bepis13
      @Bepis13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had no clue this type of video ever existed. My god

  • @Porsche996driver
    @Porsche996driver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Vic Elford a living legend. Pick up one of his driving books and appreciate his rally skills in the earliest 911s in the mid-‘60s. When men were men and sheep were scared.

  • @RRVCrinale
    @RRVCrinale 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I know why this era went away. Doesn't stop me missing it.

    • @rockets4kids
      @rockets4kids 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      4:16 Too many people were dying.

  • @MsLilyhorse
    @MsLilyhorse 12 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    In so many ways it was, not perfect, but more relaxed. I miss those days. So much tension and anxiety these days. Miss the Can Am racing too.

  • @paladino444
    @paladino444 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Italy, Sicily, Italians, Sicilians.... and racing. There simply has never been a country so generous to racing and I say that as an American. Those people are just special when it comes to cars and racing.

  • @davidmarshall6409
    @davidmarshall6409 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Fantastic film. Thanks for the recommendation Neil Clifford.

  • @1258-Eckhart
    @1258-Eckhart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks so much for uploading this!

  • @alastairwhite1607
    @alastairwhite1607 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thanks Neil

  • @bambinello100
    @bambinello100 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    grazie x questo video ho rivissuto l'emozione del duello fra Ferrari e l'Alfa di Galli

  • @vinibisetto
    @vinibisetto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravo! Macchina stupenda!

  • @fabrizioc1411
    @fabrizioc1411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Che tempi...😍

    • @andysedgley
      @andysedgley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sempre nei nostri cuori

  • @haraldschon7794
    @haraldschon7794 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Alfa Romeö is rocking!

  • @pingsprayer7314
    @pingsprayer7314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    we need more footage of this greatest race of all!! great video!

    • @fernweh8709
      @fernweh8709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would be incredible to watch a full lap

  • @TheSeeka
    @TheSeeka 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of my favourite videos on classic Motorsport. I keep watching it over and over again. As an Alfa driver it stirs my soul. Thank you.

  • @chrisdooley6468
    @chrisdooley6468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The poor local lol. Love Sicily. Such a wonderful people and gorgeous scenery

  • @chriskelleher349
    @chriskelleher349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Helmut Marko with some deserved accolades. He's still in the game 50 years later in 2020.
    Vic Elford still healthy too last I heard.

    • @terrystevens5261
      @terrystevens5261 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sadly he developed cancer about a year after your post and passed away in 2022. R.I.P.

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a fantastic tale, Vic!

  • @paullacey2999
    @paullacey2999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic!I was too young for this but i love the total madness of it all!Vic Elford is one of my favourite drivers,multi talented in all manner of cars racing and rallying.Proper sounding cars not popping and banging every other bend......Great Film!

  • @palmaleter252
    @palmaleter252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rest in Peace Vic Elford

  • @ZxRx7
    @ZxRx7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    God, engine sounds were so intoxicating during this era.

  • @signorpippistrello
    @signorpippistrello 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    5:15 Well, he wouldn’t. Later that year a stone went straight through his visor resulting in the loss of an eye and ultimately ending his driver career. But he still holds the lap record! Great video btw, thanks for sharing it!

  • @michaelrobinson114
    @michaelrobinson114 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Truly wonderful video , thank you @Neil Clifford

  • @TheFokker03
    @TheFokker03 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    a true classic road race,sorely missed.

  • @swankboy
    @swankboy 12 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Sad that 1972 seems like a better time.

    • @jcoast1
      @jcoast1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      better time for all who survived

    • @lriper4702
      @lriper4702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nobody is interested in motorsport racing nowadays. Young people only care about Instagram, Facebook and smartphones.

    • @cristogreyling4736
      @cristogreyling4736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty Penny Hate Doctor it was a better time...

  • @seanhammon6639
    @seanhammon6639 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow. How wonderful. What a magnificent advert for our Italian brothers and sisters.

  • @TheRealThomasPaine1776
    @TheRealThomasPaine1776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agreed, very cool! Events like that are long gone!! Love seeing the GTVs out there!

  • @GalavantT
    @GalavantT 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fenomenal footage from that golden era, much obliged to hear those sounds.

  • @ptomptang8801
    @ptomptang8801 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    brilliant little film of legendary race

    • @jpkatz1435
      @jpkatz1435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except, sometimes, too much "music", when the the car itself is the music we want to hear.

  • @leonardotoro9386
    @leonardotoro9386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to load this stuff on youtube!! Such a good ancient visual document!! Pure racing, romantic era of motoring sport unthinkable nowadays!!! why I didn´t see this before?? now is when I start to live...

  • @kasimirdenhertog3516
    @kasimirdenhertog3516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those cars... every single one of them would be a centerpiece at an auction nowadays 🤑

  • @massimobernardo-
    @massimobernardo- 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    bellissimo grazie

  • @McLarenMercedes
    @McLarenMercedes 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yes, there was Can-Am too at that time. Can-Am had no upper displacement limit so the most powerful cars had 800hp engines, until Porsche arrived with their 917-10 turbo which developed more than 900hp.
    In USAC racing (Indycars were called that back then) they did a 200mph average speed lap (322km/h) in Ontario in 1972. The car developed around 1100hp and did around 240mph (388km/h) on the straights.
    Sporscar racing was pretty hairy too.
    Wish I had been alive back then. Pure racing.

  • @Pfessor_Moriarty
    @Pfessor_Moriarty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    God be with the days...... great piece on the Targa.

  • @joako2706
    @joako2706 13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sheer lunacy !That is what modern motorsports needs.

  • @kickerman8
    @kickerman8 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thumbs up if you want Speed channel to start playing things like this again!

    • @tominator23
      @tominator23 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol, thumbs up if you want speed channel again!

  • @futuretiger
    @futuretiger 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great onboard footage!

  • @GeorgesMiniatureCars
    @GeorgesMiniatureCars 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic film! Love seeing vintage racing and hearing the stories about the drivers.

  • @rothlis18
    @rothlis18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When there was no fear of being sued. Because back then one owned their responsibility and acceptance of risk. Nor did every kid get a medal back then either.

  • @terrystevens5261
    @terrystevens5261 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Quite a few GP drivers of the era in this race. Marko was Elfords team mate in sports cars and lost an eye in 1972 driving for BRM in the French GP when a stone went through his visor. Elfords last GP was Germany 1971 also for BRM.

  • @amish15552
    @amish15552 12 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "The trick at the Targa Florio, aside from staying on the road, is to go as fast as possible for as long as possible"...hmmm, that simple, ehh Vic?

  • @kuseetha.
    @kuseetha. 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing video, love it!!

  • @achilleribolla88
    @achilleribolla88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    grande filmato con commento del mitico Vic Elford

  • @ManuelLopez-sb3eo
    @ManuelLopez-sb3eo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muy peligroso, pero bellísimo espectáculo. Lancia Fulvia y, sobre todo, Alfa Romeo 105, siempre en mi corazón.

  • @JONACAN
    @JONACAN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beautiful video.

  • @HellishPunch
    @HellishPunch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rip Nanni Galli

  • @shankarbalan3813
    @shankarbalan3813 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Motor Racing ans Sports car driving in those days required real skill. Now most of the work is done by computer. Anyone can own or drive a sports car nowadays. But the magic is gone.

  • @studiocalder818
    @studiocalder818 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Targa Florio for cars was like Isle of Man for mbikes

    • @MDDeGrande1994
      @MDDeGrande1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except with Grande layout, Targa Florio was much longer.

  • @marinjeam
    @marinjeam 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This footage is the "Godfather" of car documentaries.You can smell the cars and Sicilian wine.

  • @caribman10
    @caribman10 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the VW service bus parked nearly on the cornering line at 6:00. Also, unsaid, the "spectators" field-strip any abandoned race cars on the circuit.

  • @rrrmo
    @rrrmo 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Che tempi !

    • @giovannifasano5868
      @giovannifasano5868 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      rrrmo targa florio72cero anch'io Fasano Giovanni abhart 2000

    • @giovannifasano5868
      @giovannifasano5868 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lo sanno tutti ln Sicilia che oh corso 71 72fiat abhart 2000prototipo Fasano Giovanni oggi 84anni grazie

    • @giovannifasano5868
      @giovannifasano5868 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      liveblog.sport.sky.it/Event/GP_Giappone_le_Libere_1_e_2_del_venerdi

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@giovannifasano5868 grande. Complimenti

  • @jayswisher575
    @jayswisher575 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good ole days man...

  • @lenniethedogsparty
    @lenniethedogsparty 12 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This film makes me think what a safe, sanitised environment we have now, not just in motor racing but everywhere: a world for women. But not Sicilian women, apparently!

    • @lriper4702
      @lriper4702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are absolutely right!

    • @gustavoflorio5383
      @gustavoflorio5383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The death of a innocent human bean is never a good thing. Just ask the loved ones of those drivers.

  • @shaggy69001
    @shaggy69001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "like a man possessed" well done

  • @cramersclassics
    @cramersclassics 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic!

  • @fidan2fast
    @fidan2fast 8 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    ..lat year... huh... last year I hit a local... :O

    • @jinxed_jinxed_3443
      @jinxed_jinxed_3443 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      But the locals loved the race so much, they didn't mind being run over now and then :)

    • @carstenvang9193
      @carstenvang9193 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody got hurt. Just having a nice time.

    • @llamamanism
      @llamamanism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The victim probably felt really privileged to be hit by a famous driver in an Italian Alfa

  • @gmt3654
    @gmt3654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great documentation 👍

  • @fernandomayer2232
    @fernandomayer2232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is the crazy man that give "no like" in this video? AMAZING Vídeo!!

  • @Ghibliopencup
    @Ghibliopencup 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantatstic!!!!

  • @scuderiagrifoni8380
    @scuderiagrifoni8380 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Neil Clifford sent me here...

  • @eugeniosantillangutierrez6519
    @eugeniosantillangutierrez6519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    🏁 The Man, his machine and God 🏁

  • @Ianzandvoort
    @Ianzandvoort 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw Toine Hezemans, 3 rd in 1972

    • @frankvdkruijs812
      @frankvdkruijs812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Completely right! The man standing having the discussion. Very successfull in these cars.

  • @Tom_Hadler
    @Tom_Hadler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. It's 1970 not 72, according to the in video title

  • @tangerinedream7211
    @tangerinedream7211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They didn't know then the last full championship Targa would be next year.
    Oh for a time machine.

  • @GinoFoto
    @GinoFoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    impressionanti

  • @JimVanMorrissey
    @JimVanMorrissey 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Anybody able to identify the delightful acoustic guitar & pan flute music? Shazam yields nothing.

    • @RunDub
      @RunDub 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is part of a film called The Speed Merchants, and the music is simply the soundtrack to the film. I know there was a record album of it, and I believe it is available on cd. Try Amazon!

    • @bluzeke
      @bluzeke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Free soundtrack download at Autosports Marketing website.

  • @damondaniel4086
    @damondaniel4086 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did not think you could make "Bring A Trailer" much cooler but....This is great!!!

  • @billhall830
    @billhall830 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see speed channel start having a program that showed these great times in autosport. Not sure if Speed is capable anymore though.

  • @secretagentbloke
    @secretagentbloke 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    RIP Quick Vic

  • @jimmyolsenschannel6263
    @jimmyolsenschannel6263 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great documentary. Who wrote and played the soundtrack?

  • @srntld
    @srntld 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do you know what film this is from?
    thanks

  • @craigyirush3492
    @craigyirush3492 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not give credit to those who made this documentary by saying where you got this clip from?

  • @alechall7082
    @alechall7082 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Last year *ha*, last year I hit a local"

  • @bonskiiTV
    @bonskiiTV 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @paullacey2999
    @paullacey2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much missed Vic.You could hustle a car!

  • @bobk3432
    @bobk3432 ปีที่แล้ว

    DK Engineering has one of these Tipo 33s for sale, Sep 10, 2023.

  • @mattipuh
    @mattipuh 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome, thanks! :)

  • @andysedgley
    @andysedgley 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the Circuito de la Sierra from the Gran Turismo video game!

  • @archibaldchimpin
    @archibaldchimpin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Helmut was a good racer till he lost his eye,

  • @energyasylum997
    @energyasylum997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @00:42 Sporting them butt-huggers! Rock on pappy.

  • @axelknutt5065
    @axelknutt5065 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s a pity that 50+ years later, that Marko is more well-known than Vic Elford.
    VE is up there with Jackie Ickx as Motorsport legends

  • @symustafa1996
    @symustafa1996 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't forget the Carrera Panamericana.

  • @Yodaandhislightsabre
    @Yodaandhislightsabre 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't know Helmut Marko was a racer. Very nice

    • @terrystevens5261
      @terrystevens5261 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He was also Vics team mate in sports cars. Marko lost an eye while driving for BRM in the French GP in 1972. a stone was thrown up by possibly Ronnie Petersons car and it went through Markos visor . as a result a lot of work was done to improve the safety of helmet visors.

  • @hughlebaron129
    @hughlebaron129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    who is the narrator please? great stuff

    • @hughlebaron129
      @hughlebaron129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      To Sam Lancaster - many thanks for your reply. Last year I went to Sicily and rode around the Targa roads on my motorcycle. Hard to imagine doing this at speed. What an era! Best, Hugh

    • @bluzeke
      @bluzeke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vic Elford

  • @LuckyBaldwin777
    @LuckyBaldwin777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dust from the Sahara covered Sicily. That's pretty incredible.

    • @elsacane8495
      @elsacane8495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucky Baldwin Actually sand particles . Lived in Malta south of Sicily and people covered their cars when the strong winds laden with some sand were swept northwards from Tunisia!

    • @LuckyBaldwin777
      @LuckyBaldwin777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elsacane8495 sand... that almost seems impossible that it could travel that far. Those winds must be intense.

    • @clinttube
      @clinttube 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's nothing. We get dust clouds from the Sahara in the Southeastern U.S. regularly. Every few years there will be an absolutely spectacular red sunset or few in the late summer.
      It is amazing it travels that far but every year you're talking millions of tons of dust around the Caribbean and Florida. Sometimes it can affect the local/regional weather but mainly limits hurricanes.

    • @LuckyBaldwin777
      @LuckyBaldwin777 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @clinttube Wow, that is even more incredible. I've never heard of that before. I'm in S Arizona and when the air's really dusty here, we get 360 degree sunsets. The whole horizon lights up. Is pretty cool.

    • @clinttube
      @clinttube 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LuckyBaldwin777 yeah I was out there last year and got to see something somewhat similar to what you're talking about in phoenix. It was pretty sweet

  • @hayabusa27
    @hayabusa27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You think we have it good these days, think again....

  • @therealsharps
    @therealsharps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even the title says 1970.... Doh

  • @scottscottsdale7868
    @scottscottsdale7868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The real difficulty might be the small children waiting around the next corner.

  • @ev9466
    @ev9466 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The seventies... when you're playing your game of scopone scientifico at the cafe and race cars are zipping past the street.

  • @DoctorNumber46
    @DoctorNumber46 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "and last year I hit a local" THAT'S not part of the sport!

    • @rockets4kids
      @rockets4kids 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was a part of motor racing from the beginning. And it continued at least through Group B.

  • @axelknutt5065
    @axelknutt5065 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Today I learnt “Carlo Kitty” not Chitty as I’ve always pronounced it

  • @JohnnyAckgpl2006
    @JohnnyAckgpl2006 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go vic go

  • @MrPedur
    @MrPedur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    let the engine play the tune , not musicians :-(

  • @Rog5446
    @Rog5446 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vic Elford let us into the secret of this race. You have to drive as fast as possible, for as long as possible.
    So completely different than any other race then?

  • @ranocchio61
    @ranocchio61 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Speed Merchants. By Michael Keyser

  • @PhilippePEYREFICHE
    @PhilippePEYREFICHE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    J aurai. Aime la faire (((avec VIC..ELFORD..c eut ete. Le TOP..eh oui