LAFD Light Force 94: Sheared Hydrant
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- Los Angeles Fire Department Light Force 94 (Truck 94 & Engine 294) on scene of a sheared fire hydrant in 66's first-in on 5th Ave. X 52nd St.
Units due: Light Force 94
Location: Hyde Park / South Central, Los Angeles, CA
Date: Friday, August 28th, 2020
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For those who are less familiar with the make-up of the water supply system in the Los Angeles region, understand that the L.A. Basin is essentially a desert for many months of the year. Domestic water is brought into the region from hundreds of miles away through aqueducts, and stored in reservoirs. The water supply is, in many cases, both fragile and finite.
Having a 2,000GPM "leak" in the water system for more than a few minutes can really begin to take a toll on the system's capacity and capability, both for firefighting water and for potable water. For this reason, the FD is tasked with and trained for emergently containing leaks from sheared hydrants.
And L.A. uses wet-barrel hydrants; the water comes up the barrel right to the caps, even when it's turned off. This is beneficial to them because each cap has its own valve, and supply lines can be connected/disconnected while other lines on the same hydrant remain flowing. This is why there's no cut-off valve when the hydrant is sheared.
As always, be reminded that it isn't wrong just because it isn't the way your department or city does it.
thank you!!!!
Interesting. Thanks for the FYI. Me living in a city that's water supply comes from a Great Lake (Cleveland) our water supply & shut-off systems are totally different.
Mack Flickerson I’m not sure if that was directed at me , but I never implied that it was wrong , and anyway my Fire Dept has nothing to do with installing or maintenance of Fire Hydrants , the Water Dept handles that. It’s not our choice nor do we care ... in areas like NYC or anywhere that is exposed to prolonged freezing Temperatures we MUST have Dry Barrel hydrants , other wise they would freeze & be unusable in a winter months . It’s just a added bonus that dry barrel hydrants also don’t become a Geyser of water when sheered off ... I honestly thought that was only stuff that was i the movies because in 24 years working & 47 years living in the NYC area I have never seen a fire hydrant shoot water 40 feet into the up I to the sky . Only seen in it movies until this video & i have seen many hydrants knocked over by cars in my life . I was only commenting on who repairs & maintains hydrants . Although the fire department I work at & many others I know of on the east coast Regularly do fire hydrant inspection just to make sure they’re functioning if we find a hydrant That isn’t functioning we notify the water department... ok enough fire hydrant talk I hope 🤞
Wow, you are so smart. Maybe you could an in-depth video about fire hydrants.
Very interesting and very different from our hydrants.
Seems to me if water is that valuable, an extra shut off valve would be money well spent.
“Mom, I fixed the pressure issue in our garden hose”
"Did you water the garden?"
"Yep. The garden, the lawn, the street, even washed the car."
@@anthonythorp7291 😂😂😂😂😂😂 good one
@@anthonythorp7291 Good shet son!!
I almost shet out the enchiladas! Good laugh 😆!!!
@@anthonythorp7291 and the firemen came to congratulate me:) -good one-
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These firefighters gained a new appreciation for warm dry socks!!!
Job well done!
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I'm from England and the only time I saw this happen is on films when cars always seemed to hit a hydrant!
Yeah our hydrants aren’t built in like American ones there just holes in the ground and then fire dep puts the end in
@@henryreeder5939 but then you have the chance that some idiot could park their car directly on top of the water source. But i guess that would depend on location.
@@Thestuffnope The other problem is being below ground, the chamber can silt up so the first task can be to dig out the crap to find the valve.
A little disappointed that you spent so much time filming this and didn’t catch the actual shutting off of the geyser! 😢
I agree.
I know what
Yes I was also expecting to see the water fountain fading away and shut down.
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It’s disappointing that they turned the wrong shutoff. As a plumber, even I was thinking “why aren’t they shutting it off from the box in front of the hydrant
Haha I felt bad for the guy that had to get in there with their hands
i think that was a woman
Least senior member of the crew is my guess
Also put a board in the way, the high pressure would leave your hand bruised
Rookies for sure!!!!!
@@timothyfrollini5383 yeah ok let's us see you do smart ass
I like the new lime green safety coats i see the LAFD has purchased , that’s truly different for them to do that...👌🏽👍👍
Watching your video, bring back many memories of growing up in the L.A. area and a fire hydrant happen just like your video. I lived there from 1969-1991.
You must be a last sane conservative person who left LA area before it became a shithole
We use to paint our hydrant valves half blue half yellow, it made it easy to know what was a hydrant valve.
You might look at the other hydrants to see where there valve is located.
If they understood that hydrants are tapped off the main using a saddle connection with the valve located between the tap and the hydrant 2 to 10 feet directly from it, they wouldn't have wasted time operating the wrong valve 60 feet from the hydrant.
They just didn't want to get wet. They were trying to shut the block off first, then shut hydrant gate, then reopen block.
@@thetapper61 looks like they didn't know where the valve was.
Training video.
Im sure you can google their station, contact them and forward them the same information.... they wont see it commented on a TH-cam thread... tyfys
The house on the corner going to have some real nice green grass.
Well done. We had to call City Water Works to shut off broken or frozen hydrants. Winter here in Canada made it more interesting creating really cool ice sculptures.
This is a common sight after I visit Los Santos.
you too?
At least the grass was watered and some one got free car wash lol.
I would love to sit and park under this and see the gushing water flow down my vehicle.
Yes
@@jayasmrmore3687 ahhhh
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Damn didn’t know everyone was suddenly a fire hydrant expert
thank you!! lol
Shoot, everyone on TH-cam is an expert on everything in the video AND world politics and how much America sucks compared to every single other country on the face of the Earth. Wonder if it is like this too on all of those other massive video streaming services based in all of those other better countries.
Fire hydrant, fire fighting, paramedics, police, pilots, tow trucks, military, funerals. If it is on TH-cam then there is an expert for it. Or it is done the right way at the commentors place and wrong at the video place. Grin.
I’m I Hebrew did utility work here in the south, light, gas, and water.
It's TH-cam. We do it all here.
The joys of being the station rookie.
In a system that large I would be surprised if the pump station even noticed this.
I worked got the WW for 7 years in IN. A contractor tying in an water tower knocked off the 24” valve, took 10 mins before pump station saw the drop in pressure. Contractor called screaming in about a minute. We had it shut off in 40 mins. I think I heard we lost over a million gallons.
if it is down below the hills in LA it is all gravity fed even then some of the houses up on hills are still getting plenty of pressure with no pumps
Legend has it it’s still going
Their trying to figure out,lefty tighty ,right loosy.
You got to respect these guys.
Per National Fire Code if a fire hydrant is struck by a vehicle the exposed hydrant top is designed to break away from the main body of the fire hydrant to prevent a water ruptured like in video. In this case the hydrant body must have broken off from the 6" water main extension pipe servicing the hydrant, or a shear coupling was not installed for water to be shooting up to the sky like this.
Every fire hydrant is designed to stay seated by water main pressure if the hydrant top is sheared off from the stem due to its upside down seat and disc design. Each fire hydrant is also to have its own isolation valve located 3'-5' from the hydrant. This is required to isolate only the hydrant for maintenance or replacement instead of having to isolate the entire water main loop keeping water service from homes and businesses. What's going on here is a puzzle.
You’re talking about a dry barrel hydrant. This is probably a wet barrel. Your statement about EVERY hydrant is incorrect.
Those guys are standing under a lot of falling water. Wow. Like a decent Waterfall in the Sierras.
Anybody thirsty?
it really took them a long time to get that water to stop, and when i am 20+ then im gonna get a job for a fighterfire
I remember on Emergency where they had this unusual call. The Squad has to extract the driver of the wrecked car and the engine company has to turn off the main until a new hydrant is installed.
It is what it is. I have heard a lot of calls for these over the decades but this is the first time I got to see what happens once they arrive on scene. Thanks for the video.
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I'm surprised not to see a comment about why two pieces of apparatus were sent. In this case LAFD ladder trucks have no pumping capability and no water tank so a regular Type I engine always accompanies the ladder truck. They always have an engine number that is 200 above the truck. Here this is Truck 94 accompanied by Engine 294. Station 94's regular engine would be Engine 94. At station 101 you would have a Light Force with Truck 101 and Engine 301. There are single Type I engines and some stations with only a single engine. When a regular engine joins a "Light Force" it is then called a "Task Force." At the time of this call, the regular Engine 94 might have already been assigned or is one with a paramedic on board, so they might give the hydrant calls to Light Forces only, I don't know.
I imagine it is now DWP's job to make the repairs to place a new hydrant at the location. Years ago, now some 47 of them, when I lived in L.A., the LAFD had "plug buggies," which were a pickup with a single firefighter. I think they did preventative maintenance and tested the hydrants to make sure they were working on some sort of schedule, like once a year or something. Do they still use those units?
i'm sure someone will come along with that question soon!
you're correct, truck companies carry hydrant shut off keys so all incidents involving a sheared hydrant will get at least a light force.
and correct again, once the hydrant is shut down, the captain will contact metro and request "DWP for a sheared hydrant shut down at the intersection of..." followed by the location of the incident.
Plug Buggies are still around. however, from what i've seen, during annual hose testing, the entire task force (and sometimes the rescues too) split the area to knock out more hydrants faster. i've really only seen plug buggies used for transferring equipment/personnel between stations, grocery store runs, reliefs of firefighters at incidents for prolonged periods of time near shift change, and other fire station needs.
thanks for watching!
@@FB1ResponseVideos It sounds like plug buggies are used as what CDF and federal wildland fire agencies call a "Utility."
As for watching, you are welcome. I'm an old retired fire dog.
exactly, station utility. i hope retirement is treating you well!
Interesting that the FD is sent at all. In Canada, at least in BC, the city's water operators are responsible for shutting down sheared hydrants, if they happen to be a wet barrel. Most are dry barrels, so there's no geyser when sheared off :)
@@MidnightPolak This was my thought. Why not dispatch LA Department of Water and Power? Even if you send a Light Force, why go Code 3? What "emergency" was there in this situation? My department used to run code 3 to gas meters that were hit or leaking. A new chief (had been a CAPT with the volunteer department for ages) changed that and made it a non-code response unless we had an indication it was a fire/explosive hazard. The goal was to reduce running code 3 and the risks that entail. Just my thoughts. I'm not here to second guess these guys of LAFD doing fine work. I did notice that the CAPT (orange helmet) stayed high and dry the whole time. I guess rank does have its privileges! lol
Salute to the firefighters.Good job.
Where's the Water Dept! They should buy the FD dinner for doing their job.
The water authorities don't do Hydrants , it's the fire departments responsibility to tend to something like that , water authorities only do water line maintenance for homes and businesses.
That’s what I said . In the city i work as a Firefighter , this type of Incident would be handled by the City Water Dept , firefighters only go around & shut hydrants down opened up by kids to play in the water on super hot days , it’s there only way to cool down in the inner city’s
@@OwneyMadden430 Hydrants are nearly impossible to open without the help of a Hydrant wrench , very few people can even get them to open and nobody definitely can't open the valve without a Hydrant tool because they are tightly shut and it requires a firefighters full strength sometimes to get the valve to budge.
Ordinary people don't have tools large enough to open a Hydrant.
Joseph Bennett Really Joe ? As a Firefighter just outside NYC for the last 24 years I must have been hallucinating , because ive see it with my own eyes .. not only do they open ordinary hydrants , Have you ever heard of a magnetic hydrant wrench for hydrants that have a magnetic tip for the purpose of stopping people from opening hydrants illegally? Well Im sure you haven’t .. But the people u say can’t open regular hydrants even open these magnetic tipped hydrants with Magnets from huge radio speakers & an improvised wrench ... listen dummy idk who u are but you obviously aren’t a firefighter . So do yourself a favor and keep your idiotic thoughts to yourself seriously with all due respect ...
Joseph Bennett This happens to be a video in Chicago of kids who opened a hydrant to play in the water , do you see any big strong firefighters around with there full strength & hydrant wrenches? I don’t see any Joe !! So how did it open ? Soooo who opened this nearly impossible to open hydrant Joe? The Kids did you moron ... th-cam.com/video/4-URRHLhFus/w-d-xo.html
If the valve was properly maintained that would have been a 5 minute job
Been my experience a lot are like that. Definitely should be doing regular checks.
No doubt. The video was clipped. Took much longer.
Agreed, if the FD was given the necessary funding's there would be no problem. The problem occurs because Americans (in general) doesn't want to pay taxes for common needs like Fire Brigades.
@@Windgonner want this American doesn't want to pay for is:
Career welfare recipients.
Unwed girls with kids.
Lazy worthless people living off the gov aka me.
4yr politicians term with full pensions.
All the other ridiculous things politicians get.
Gov pet projects.
Fancy bridges and road ways.
Over the top architectures gov building.
Infrastructure in different countries.
Multiple statues/displays being build when city should be filling potholes instead.
Lawsuit settlements for bad cops.
On and on.
I have no problem paying for needed government and services that aren't wasting my tax money.
@@Windgonner Wrong. Unless you are speaking of Trump
Interesting we don’t see this back east I always wondered how this was done
I hate when people leave the scene of a crime ! Hopefully someone seen who hit the hydrant.
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Wouldn't bother about having a shower would ya if you was the fireman under that waterfall 😂
Im so tired of web trolls giving videos a thumbs down. YOU try to follow LAFD on a radio and film for 45 minutes! Great video!
much appreciated comment! thank you!
Ah the water flow alarm 🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒👍
The most noble job in the world.
I give you love and respect.
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Well done guys! I know you were exhausted! At least the " geyser" was water & not a gas line leak. I wonder how much water was lost?
It’ll all get evaporated and then the water cycle anyway
@@jayasmrmore3687 ground absorbtion and re-location of water where water was already needed.
@@thisismyusername6717 meaning?
About 2000gal/min if they have a half decent system.
Also this is why I say we need auto cutoff valves in place in case a hydrant is damaged
Especially on California where losing 2kgpm is a problem.
This looks to be a "wet barrel" design, in it the valves are in the hydrant unlike a "dry barrel" design where the valves are below ground and doesn't geyser like this one when it gets damaged
an auto cutoff could create water hammer and cause a main break on block. needs to be shut slowly to prevent that.
Just put some flextape over it
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Yes definitely another advantage of having a dry barrel hydrants up here in the ole mtns of tn they would have broken off been replaced in a few hours without the waterlost. Wonder why they went to that first valve looks like they all should have a valve in front of the hydrant.
That's the beauty of it lol. There's not always a foot valve at the hydrant. I'm in Chattanooga and run into that problem often. Either no foot valve or one nowhere near the front of the hydrant.
But the wet barrel is so much easier to replace if it has breakaway bolts.
This is why sub surface hydrants are a good idea.
5 million gallons of water pissed away down the drain because of shitty, antiquated valves and no inspections.
My question is why isn't there a break off valve so this doesn't happen.
@@timothyhnida8965 you would think that by the year 2020 there would be advancement in fire plug technology.
The fun of having wet barrel hydrants instead of dry barrel
@@timothyhnida8965 most of SoCal uses wet-barrel hydrants.
Can any of that be captured to use for any reason, seems like a collection system can be invented to do that ? Even a transfer pump to another vehicle of some sort. Think of all these wild fires nowadays and how Helicopters r used sometimes u take water from nearby swimming pools.
A few weeks ago,there was a big water brake on the street and I was skateboarding and 5 seconds later after I passed the hole,water squirted everywhere luckily I didnt get wet but the firemen called some people to fix it,they didnt fix it because there was a emergency and they were leaving
It actuallly looks so refreshing for a city in the middle of the desert 😊 Of course not right where the hydrant is sheared but maybe just being around the zone
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Thank you for fixing it
6:24 oops, wrong valve.
This is the benefit of dry-barrel hydrants, even in no-freeze areas....
Yes. And I would think you could still have a valve for each cap even on a dry- barrel. Every time you replace one upgrade it.
Probably trying to close one side of the loop to have a little less pressure
I hope they re opened the 1st value they closed in case that was part of the main water line to the homes close by.
احلى لايك حبيبتى الناس للناس حبيبتى ربنا يوفقك يارب العالمين اختى الجميله احسنتى النشر اختى الجميله
This is a pumpers paradise
That Sweet great thanks
When my wife's water broke was the same.
Oh
Mom I took a shower out side
11:54 "Hey Sarge, can ya give us a hand?" 11:55 "Voila, magic wand waved for ya!"
Seriously though, great job LAFD for tackling all issues with the city!
Twelve minutes of continuous video and he misses the actual shutoff.
That guy was already in there. If he knew what to do he should of done it to start.
Learned something new, I thought all hydrants were breakaway.
No, fire Hydrants are open run systems that only have a valve in the top of the Hydrant so when it gets severed from the ground there's nothing to stop the water from coming out.
In the northeast they are. The actual valve is below the frost line in the main.
Wisconsin hydrants have a nut on top connected to a rod that runs about 6 ft deep to a valve. That valve supplies the water. The rod is designed to be the weakest link. If hydrant is hit, rod generally snaps. Sometimes it doesn't. For this an/or hydrant maintenance/replacement there's a valve in between the hydrant and water main.
@@josephbennett3482 there are different types of hydrants not all are the same.
If nothing else, the road is now clean..
It’s so beautiful
i could even smell that water just by watching the video
I'm thirsty
so nice bro. অনেক সুন্দর হয়েছে
Decades ago the hydrant down the street was knocked off. My 17 year old sister took a bottle of shampoo and in her late 1970s bikini washed her hair. Only to be stopped by the CHP as she was in full view of the hollywood freeway and was causing a traffic jam. Juanita and middleberry streets FYI. it was a hot day.
Just remember the warmer climate have these types of HYDRANT. Colder areas have a break away on ROD to base. The barrel is dry, it drains ( Hopefully) just depends on area of USA you live in.
I just have a suggestion to all American Firefighters services. In France our firefighters have very efficient helmets. You should use the same protection helmets.🚒🍀🚒💫
We have dry hydrants and where we are in the mountains, have about 175.0 PSI which would shoot water quite a bit higher than they have going here. Cool idea for clearing the valve box though!
I bet the kids loved it and was yelling at the firefighters leave it alone lol
Good job fellas
Unbelievable. They couldn’t have done a better job for an easier access to shut off the water that was just torture for the fire fighters.
2:40 just reaches down and turns off water.💪
US Navy could have replaced the hydrant while water was blasting and had it done in 45 seconds 🇺🇸
I dont Think you realise how high the water pressure is
No they can’t
The water is too high on pressure
And they are in the ground fire hydrants not above ground ones
That's not something you get to see everyday. Nice video.
Impressive video J! Love the thumbnail.
thanks chris!
Being this is California, I am literally shocked the neighborhood people weren't hoarding all the free water they could scoop up with 5-gallon buckets. As one gallon of water is worth more to Californian's than a $300 pair of sneakers, it just makes no sense. The city of L.A. must've lost at least 10 Olympic sized swimming pools worth of water that day and not a single person stepped up to save a single gallon. Wake Up L.A.
That yard will have very green grass for a bir
Nice to see this.
They forgot the soap lol good job
God job
Tough but gotta fight the water
Looks like they need yo invest in GIS systems where they can map out where the valve is for each hydrant and many other things like pressure, type of connectors etc.
Looks like they tried to shut a wrong valve and it did not work and finally they shut off the correct valve.
By the looks of it , the road department paved the street and covered the shutoff in the process that's why the firefighters were hitting the street by the crossing.
@@josephbennett3482 - Maybe beginning of the video u can see one fire fighter trying to figure out if there was shutoff value right next to hydrant. For some reason they decided to go after another valve in center of street and it did not work so they came back to the valve next to hydrant, if they have GIS they would still exactly know where valve is even if road dept covered it.
Ahh.. Dry Barrel hydrants and their issues..
I totally understand the valve being covered in silt but the standard valve wrench should easily be able to clean out and operate the 6” valve.
Are they even operating the correct valve or did they just turn off a secondary loop valve or even a primary valve. As large as this city is they should have a easily accessible map of the valves. The valve for the hydrant is almost always in front of the hydrant it’s just water. Oh yeah I forgot I do this for a living so yeah that’s why I say it’s easy. They know about flushing out the valve boxes with a fire hose. Thats a plus. Guess their valves are all open left.come on count the turns. Size of valve times 3 plus 3 = 21 turns if using a Mueller,American, AVK, or Ford double disk resilience wedge gate valve.
I know the water Dept are the fire fighters heros. Lol just another day on the job
As a retired 39yr water utility employee (29yr valve maintenance and repair) you hit the nail on the head..... most important thing when operating a valve.....count the fuckin turns!!!!!
if i was a kid i would be playing in that ,until they showed up to turn it off !! someone is gonna get a bath turning that off ... lol
It's too bad the city hasn't figured out to keep the valves in the street, with a minimum of one full length piece of pipe between hydrant and shut-off valve.
When he was hitting the tool with a rock I was waiting for another geyser to come blowing out of the hole they were working in.
Looks fun on a hot day !!
Thank God for Probies
That valve in the intersection is a hundred years old it's never going to turn without busting it right off and then you've got two problems
Go get a 12-in pipe with bolt flanges and a valve and attach it to the base
There is a similar video of the exact same thing occurring in NYC. This video is the perfect example of the drama that comes with working in LA . NYC used one engine company, essentially one guy most of the time working the valve , finished closing valve with a second FF . LA has multiple FF’s , a hand-line stretched and what sounds like news helicopters hovering overhead and to top it off the videographer who was on scene before FD’s arrival ….. doesn’t have footage of the valve finally be shut ! 🤦🏻♂️
That was beautiful
Selute to fire force department. 🙏🙏🙏🐅🐅🙏
One thing about it they are not getting heat stroke.
Good job.
they are now wet... i mean not only a little bit like after rain, they are completly wet. your shooes, your socks, your underwear, t-shirt... everything is trenched in water. trust me, thats not nice, even on a hot day
Amen. I hope they have extra uniforms at the fire station. I learnt that the hard way.
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This video reminds me of everything about her
Working for L A County fd, I knew when they went to the first valve it was way to far away. Come on man
Hey mom you wanted to go somewhere with a waterfall right?
*brings out to the street
Exelente video
Exelente labor los felicito Dios me los Bendiga 🙏
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MOSES : HOLD MY BEER.
It's like watching Moe,Larry and Curly!
Hey look it's old faithful
Good job firemen!
I feel like that was a missed opportunity for the kid's in the neighborhood. Those firefighters got soaked, lol.
This looks like a job for the city not the fire department. Just shows how amazing firefighters are. They'll take on anything.
I'm thinking the city engineer's office could have helped them locate the shut off.