Completely worth it. If you did not get the Collector's Box Set from SF years ago when that came out...get this set! I think each Disc has the exact same extras. This is an amazing set. All 5 movies look great!
@@javieracevedo9084 what are they I was wondering if they had all the special features. Kinda bummed no new features but I guess its not really a big deal.
@@mattandgarretttakethemovies84 The Criterion Commentary Track and The On Location: 25 Years Later Featurette. Yeah no new Features but at least we got a lot lol. Then again The On Location: 25 Years Later Featurette is in a way replaced by Two Horror's Hallowed Grounds Episodes which cover the same grounds as The Featurette.
I really hope Scream Factory does this with the Nightmare on Elm Street series. As it sounds like they did a real good job compared to others that ruin the movie with terrible color timing and color correction.
What is it with these companies jacking up the color timing and color correction for older films when they release them in 4K? I get tired of seeing the bluish tint for these films when it wasn't there before. Batman 1989 4K is a perfect example of that as well as the remixed sound FX.
@@alucard624 Batman 89, they messed it up to where everyone looks like they are wearing makeup as their skintones now have more of an orange appearance. Terminator 2 is messed up too. I wish someone out there would take these movies and recolor time them and release them out somewhere.
I saw Halloween in the theater numerous times when it was initially released, and seeing the Lions Gate 4K disc was the truest color version I've seen on home video.
You forgot that Blu-Ray Disc #2 DOES have the complete Television Edit/Cut with the deleted scenes. It even has the NBC movie night event intro included. So they do get the TV version, but it is not in WS.
Indeed! The TV Version on disc 3 was the biggest selling point for me, so I got worried when it wasn't listed on the back cover, but it is in fact included!
For anyone wondering, I did a few comparisons to the tv cut that's included, as well as my own vhs from the 80's, and the newest transfer is by far the closest to the original, intended color timing. The Lionsgate 4k is FAR too desaturated, and the 2007 Anchor Bay transfer that's included, while looking very good with its warm colors, still is not correct, this film has always fallen somewhere in between, which the new transfer finally gets right. That being said, I'm not sure about parts 2 and 3, we've seen in the past how Dean Cundey likes to be revisionist and change things around(just look at Scream's The Fog and original release for The Thing, for instance) so I've decided to dig out my old vhs releases for those as well and see which looks the closest. Just going by the tv cut of part 2 that's included, it actually looks like the original 2011 Universal release, as well as Scream Factory's original 2012 release, look the closest, which is surprising seeing as how the 2018 4k steelbook was taken from an IP, you would think that one would be the most accurate, but vhs transfers themselves aren't always reliable, so I'm going to check at least three different sources(I have my own copy of the tv cut recorded from television, as well as a commercial vhs release from the 80's, so hopefully they will match up once I dig them out and throw them in the old vcr). I wish someone with laserdiscs of the first three films would chime in and give their input.
There are screenshots of the laserdisc online. Criterion released it with supervision from John Carpenter. My research over the years has been that it is the most accurate in terms of color. Interestingly enough, it does not look like Cundy-approved in 1999 DVD. But that's not surprising. Every time he gets his hands on it the transfer comes out different. He has done three over the years and none look similar to each other.
Worth mentioning that the “original” color timing isn’t actually original. It’s the one used on the first Blu-ray release and the second DVD release, but the original DVD release is much closer to the original theatrical color timing. Also there are two cuts on the third disc: the extended cut in HD with SD inserts, and the TV cut in SD with a 4:3 aspect ratio.
I respectfully disagree about the Atmos track not being much different than on the previous release, I was personally blown away by how much they mixed into the rear and height channels. The score stood out far more than I've ever heard it before and the daytime scenes included so many small details like birds chirping, leaves and wind blowing through trees etc. All in all I'm amazed by the Scream Factory release both visually and auraly.
So it appear this version has superior artwork, a little bit more special features, MARGINALLY better audio, and brighter colour timing. It's up to you, of course, but are you really willing to spend 20 some dollars on a 4K of a movie you already have?
This will turn into a ‘my dad is better than yours’ argument. They’re both good transfers that appeal to people in different ways. Lionsgate is darker but closer to the original and SF is a revisionist version that ‘looks better’ to a lot of people but isn’t loyal to the original colour timing… that said, Dean Cundey supervised it, so who are we to comment.
Lionsgate is not closer to the original though. Lionsgate's transfer was a 4K remaster of an already remastered print that was botched. Shout!'s 4K remaster comes directly from the OCN, which means it is the way the movie intended to look.
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork John from the movie collector TH-cam channel had the pleasure of watching the 35mm print on release and has his own copy for home consumption and says the Lionsgate is nearer to the original presentation. The SF new release is from the OCN but that doesn’t mean it’s a carbon copy of the original representation of the movie… it’s a revisionist version overseen by Cundey. That’s why one of the original discs has the original colour timing, which is similar to the Lionsgate 4k version.
So glad there is more colour in this new version. When I got the Lionsgate version I was really sad with the colours, I thought it looked too washed out and grey, I was used to some old DVD copy where the colours popped out more!
Great review Jeff. And I liked the way you pointed out Dean cundey had certified it. But the way I see it this film was originally in metro colour which was a bit of a darkened 70s film process. So the original 4k disk looks the best to me. The new cour timing gives away what the original colour timing hid. Which is that the film was shot in california.😀😀
I waited on ordering this to see which direction they went with in the color grading. The Lions Gate release felt like it was too dark, and I was hoping for an uptick in the brightness of the picture. So, I got Halloween 2 and 3. Only watched H3 so far, but I was blown away with how much more detail and color pop it has compared to the blu ray. Looking forward to seeing the rest.
This is the review I've been looking forward too the most. I got the 40th Anniversary 4K, but I wasn't sure if this was worth another buy. Given the upgrade in color, I think it'll definitely be worth a pick up. Though, you can't beat the cover of the original art on the 40th Anniversary.
I agree on the slight Atmos upgrade but it is an upgrade. You can hear the difference when they go to pick up Michael and it's raining. Turn it up to hear the difference better lol. Thanks for this comparison, I love this movie. Would've bought it regardless...
I never liked the lions gate version. It was to dark. The classroom scene with Laurie looks terrible. The shout factory version in Dolby vision is night and day better. Worth the upgrade .
the artwork is by far my favorite thing about the scream factory edition, it just pops out so nice. thank you for explaining the differences my guy, great as always
Idk because I think now paramount own them because of now they own Miramax so right is bit of issues but I could see it happen I think scream factory only did 1 to 5 to see if it was good sale I think it was I do hope because Halloween 6 is a beautiful movie yea the story is kinda bad but I like the look of it
@@jeremydrew1227 yea but that wasn’t much a problem it look like they in a partnership or a contract cus scream factory had did a lot of release of them where is I think paramount might be a problem
Jeff did you excellent job explaining what “Original color timing presentation” meant on one of the included Blu-rays. So it seems like if you own both the Lionsgate 4K release and scream factory 4K release, you have both the original color timing presentation on 4K via Lionsgate and the updated color timing presentation on 4K via scream factory. I’m glad I own both versions as it’s fun to compare and it’s one of my favorite movies of all time so don’t mind the double dip.
Great Review! You don’t need to convince Halloween fans to “double dib”. Most die hards have every version and format going back to VHS lol I think this is the best Halloween has ever looked and prefer the Scream Factory release over Lionsgate. I love the new artwork but reversed it on the Blu Ray case, so I have the best of both worlds. I’ll watch H20 on VHS this year until a 4K release comes out
I have the Lionsgate 4K, and before that I had the complete collection box set. So I'm set with quality and content. I won't upgrade. Thanks however, this was very informative
A person’s skin tone doesn’t turn grey in the fall. The Lionsgate version is not the original color timing, they messed up. Scream factory is much closer to the original color timing. Also, the third disc “original color timing” does not look like the Lionsgate transfer, it’s actually closer to the old laserdisc which is the actual theatrical release color timing.
After following you for like a month and watching countless videos on 4K released my wife noticed an up tick in Amazon deliveries, honestly between three and five times a week. So finally one day she says why don't you just spend like $1,000 on Amazon and get it over with. THANK YOU JEFF, for this channel existing
Probably won’t upgrade, at least not this year. Bought a really nice steelbook last year that has the lionsgate transfer, which sounds to be still very solid
I don’t agree that 70’s era films are drab and dreary in color. Having seen several archive film prints in the theater now of Halloween that film really pops. I feel the 2018 disc goes for that more drab or “natural” look a lot of modern films go for these days. Great review though.
I'm glad I got this release. I bought the Lionsgate version a while back and the color timing threw me off. The duller color pallete was odd for me. The Scream Factory release's colors are the way I remember the movie always being, just with better resolution.
I was wondering which version I had, honestly if I didn't already have the rather excellent 4k Steelbook (which I think is the Lionsgate release) I may have considered the shout factory although my preference would be the colour timing on the Lionsgate as its meant to be winter and it does a great job of looking like October, not sure I feel this film should really be popping with colour, especially looking warmer with bright green grass, looking at comparrison shots between the two, I do favour the Lionsgate release!
@@RodneyAllanPoe agreed. I wish I could get in touch with them personally. I have tried and I link to their site in every video I use them for, but I don’t know who runs it!
I like the Lionsgate one. On previous 1080p & dvd editions there was a debate surrounding two different color timings - both Cundey approved. One ran a little hot and felt too modern and the other was that fall look. I suspect these are the two options Shout/scream pulled from opting to keep the colder tome on the blu ray. Lionsgate audio is lacking though.
Getting back into physical media collecting after some of my boxes in my garage got stolen from seller this year. Couldn’t pass this up! They did a great job to modernize the transfer while also respecting the history with all they included. I watch Halloween during the spooky season as much as I watch Home Alone during the merry season. Loved HK too! Planning on going tonite after only streaming it last week.
Looks kind of like the original release was trying to maintain that sort-of-washed-out look things shot on film in the 70s tended to have while the Scream factory transfer was going for a brighter and more modern color palette
Thank you for this. I remember that you LOVED the old edition. You said it was one of the best 4k transfers (and you literally made me buy it 😂) . I'm curious to see if the new one is better :)
@@jimm8176 get yourself a multi region 4k player then. I’m in the UK and my Sony X700 plays discs from all regions. For another £100 or so over the normal asking price, it’s a no brainer.
Color timing is basicly upscaleing old movies like halloween to blu ray and it isnt native rescan more of a upscale rescan scream factory is the native true scan color trimming uses a machine to reverse the native scan to red green and blue
What fascinating here is the screen grabs from the lions gate look like what you would see on a tv or monitor that does not have hdr enabled… or uncalibrated. An hdr presentation is much like a raw image, when I watch the lionsgate 4K blu ray it’s vivid and contrasty.
Great review. Im really happy with these first 5 Halloween films Scream Factory brought us. They are beautiful transfers. Oh and I agree, I thoroughly enjoy Halloween Kills.
I have gone to three different places before I finally found the Scream Factory Halloween 4K Release. I Love The TV Extended Version of Halloween (1978). That was the #1 Reason I bought This.
DISC 3 of the Scream Factory actually has the TV version as originally aired on NBC. The eye slits in opening murder are smaller as originally edited for network sensors and dialog has been altered as originally aired. There has never been a true televised version of Halloween on domestic home video as the extended versions on VHS/DVD although stated on the packaging as the Television or extended version is a composite edit of the original theatrical version with the additional 12 minutes. There has been only one true Home Video release of the full frame televised version with the edits and censored nudity of the first kill nudity and PJ Soles nudity and that was a Japanese Laserdisc. Again, the Shout factory 4k/b-r edition although not listed on the back of the slip DOES IN FACT include for the first time in the US the original censored broadcast version.
I think I'd prefer the more color rich choice, but I don't own either yet. I'm not sure I could justify a brand new screen factory edition though if the original is significantly discounted.
I only had the 2012 blu ray release, saw this video, and went out to get both 4K options lol The Lionsgate is definitely less saturated, while the Scream Factory has much brighter colors. Both look great, much better than my original blu ray for sure, but they’re 2 different moods, and I can see either disc being someone’s favorite.
Glad I got the SF 4K release of the first film. I found it to be a worthy upgrade, especially considering my copy of the box set from years back got destroyed in a flood a few years ago. Definitely plan on getting the rest of the 4K versions of the films gradually again.
Idk I kinda like Lions Gate on the night scenes & Scream Factory on the Day scenes, and the night scenes are when the scary stuff happens so I might give edge to Lions Gate. I don’t have the Lions Gate but I do have the SF
In France we've got similar problem. Our 4K bluray is probably based on lionsgate copy (very cold blue winter colors) with tv uncut long version. I bought it and sold it immediatly. I prefer my old bluray version with much much brighter warm summer colors.
Great video! Quick correction though, as I got my copy the other day. Disc 3 includes the original color timing version, the extended cut, AND the original 4:3 television cut for the first time on home media. For whatever reason, it isn’t listed on the back cover.
@@JeffRauseo Disc 3 also includes the original NBC cut that aired in 1981. The extended cut is just the film with TV scenes spliced in. Both are included on disc 3. It was a late addition thus not listed on the cover.
I didn't expect to be double dipping on 4Ks but this one was worth it and important to have the set. Terminator 2 will be another that I'll happily double dip on if we get a better transfer and perhaps Ghostbusters. Everything else though, I'm pretty happy with.
Original mono-audio for the win! I love when 4K releases for older films contain theatrical audio. 7.1 and Atmos seem a bit overkill for some of these IMO.
I've seen the comparison video from this. I think the Scream factory version has some scenes that look better and the Lionsgate has some scenes that look better. For me, absolutely not worth getting the Scream factory if you already own the Lionsgate one
Agreed. I can't believe anyone can actually justify the value of completely repurchasing the exact same movie in 4K when the difference is so marginal. Even if money is no object, it's quite ridiculous imo
@@HowayTheMags It would be a mental decision. I can understand it if you don't own either version and want to try and decide which one is for you but owning both is pure nonsense
@@HowayTheMags I believe Jeff once said Halloween is his second favourite movie ever, so for him, I guess it does make sense to delve into that. I do agree, though, it's weird that this is being posed as a major possibility for more people
I got the 4k limited Steelbook from bestbuy OCT 2020 and looked amazing so I don't think was worth the upgrade. Lionsgate does good stuff. Saw on 4k was one of the best remasters I have ever seen. Looks fantastic. I also have the ultra rare blu ray steelbook of 2 which was a 4k scan. So I just bought 3-5 shout 4ks. kept my others. I would have got them all had it been a box set with 1 Poster. 5 Different posters etc was too much.
Looking at screenshots and other info, I personally prefer the look of the Scream Factory version, so I bought that one and sold off my Lionsgate 4K to offset the cost. And yeah it's really nice that it still includes the other color timing as an option so I can still go back to that one if I want to.
I've been waiting for someone to compare them. I have the old release and don't care for scream factorys posters for the new release. I like the 2 steelbook posters. I may get the multiple movies eventually.
Still wondering what your preference is in color timing… I was fairly pleased with the tone of the Lionsgate and the audio… obviously as a super fan of movie you’re going to go maximal with all versions but I’m not sure you stated YOUR preference.
One thing to note. There are more features on the discs not listed on the cover. A few of these had late additions like Halloween 5 with the additional footage. Halloween also contains The Night She came Home documentary and the original TV cut as it aired on NBC in 1981. So the Shout! release contains 5 versions of the film plus every special feature ever released. Its a full package that goes beyond the new 4k scan and slaughters the Lionsgate release. The Shout set feels more like a 40th anniversary release then the Lionsgate version does. Its worth millionth time dipping especially if your favorite horror film is Halloween just like mine is.
@@austinwillcut4919 there is the: 4k disc Blu ray disc with 4k scan Original Blu Ray release Extended edition with TV scenes TV cut as it aired in 1981
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The Scream factory version also has reversible cover art and more extras. It's worth the upgrade.
Completely worth it. If you did not get the Collector's Box Set from SF years ago when that came out...get this set! I think each Disc has the exact same extras. This is an amazing set. All 5 movies look great!
@@rghuxley and if they did get the collectors box they should still get this set, since it’s now in 4K.
@@rghuxley There are at least 2 missing extras from Halloween 1 but overall yeah it does have the same extras and more lol.
@@javieracevedo9084 what are they I was wondering if they had all the special features. Kinda bummed no new features but I guess its not really a big deal.
@@mattandgarretttakethemovies84 The Criterion Commentary Track and The On Location: 25 Years Later Featurette. Yeah no new Features but at least we got a lot lol. Then again The On Location: 25 Years Later Featurette is in a way replaced by Two Horror's Hallowed Grounds Episodes which cover the same grounds as The Featurette.
I really hope Scream Factory does this with the Nightmare on Elm Street series. As it sounds like they did a real good job compared to others that ruin the movie with terrible color timing and color correction.
it would be my dream.
What is it with these companies jacking up the color timing and color correction for older films when they release them in 4K? I get tired of seeing the bluish tint for these films when it wasn't there before. Batman 1989 4K is a perfect example of that as well as the remixed sound FX.
@@alucard624 Batman 89, they messed it up to where everyone looks like they are wearing makeup as their skintones now have more of an orange appearance. Terminator 2 is messed up too. I wish someone out there would take these movies and recolor time them and release them out somewhere.
I saw Halloween in the theater numerous times when it was initially released, and seeing the Lions Gate 4K disc was the truest color version I've seen on home video.
Wow your memory must be a superpower.
You forgot that Blu-Ray Disc #2 DOES have the complete Television Edit/Cut with the deleted scenes. It even has the NBC movie night event intro included. So they do get the TV version, but it is not in WS.
Indeed! The TV Version on disc 3 was the biggest selling point for me, so I got worried when it wasn't listed on the back cover, but it is in fact included!
The TV cut isn't WS because tvs were 4:3 back then
Thanks for noting this. Scream included TV cuts with with their release of Earthquake and several Hammer films as well.
So does the DVD
Normalize Full Screen Blurays! My CRT says, "Thank you!"
Thanks for doing this, been weighing up whether to buy this or not
It's all connected?
You‘re not alone, i love Halloween Kills (2021) too. 😇
Even over two years after it‘s release, it still is my favorite movie of the decade. 🥰
For anyone wondering, I did a few comparisons to the tv cut that's included, as well as my own vhs from the 80's, and the newest transfer is by far the closest to the original, intended color timing. The Lionsgate 4k is FAR too desaturated, and the 2007 Anchor Bay transfer that's included, while looking very good with its warm colors, still is not correct, this film has always fallen somewhere in between, which the new transfer finally gets right. That being said, I'm not sure about parts 2 and 3, we've seen in the past how Dean Cundey likes to be revisionist and change things around(just look at Scream's The Fog and original release for The Thing, for instance) so I've decided to dig out my old vhs releases for those as well and see which looks the closest. Just going by the tv cut of part 2 that's included, it actually looks like the original 2011 Universal release, as well as Scream Factory's original 2012 release, look the closest, which is surprising seeing as how the 2018 4k steelbook was taken from an IP, you would think that one would be the most accurate, but vhs transfers themselves aren't always reliable, so I'm going to check at least three different sources(I have my own copy of the tv cut recorded from television, as well as a commercial vhs release from the 80's, so hopefully they will match up once I dig them out and throw them in the old vcr). I wish someone with laserdiscs of the first three films would chime in and give their input.
There are screenshots of the laserdisc online. Criterion released it with supervision from John Carpenter. My research over the years has been that it is the most accurate in terms of color. Interestingly enough, it does not look like Cundy-approved in 1999 DVD. But that's not surprising. Every time he gets his hands on it the transfer comes out different. He has done three over the years and none look similar to each other.
Update?
Worth mentioning that the “original” color timing isn’t actually original. It’s the one used on the first Blu-ray release and the second DVD release, but the original DVD release is much closer to the original theatrical color timing.
Also there are two cuts on the third disc: the extended cut in HD with SD inserts, and the TV cut in SD with a 4:3 aspect ratio.
Yeah. I believe the "original color timing" blu ray is that bright version with everything looking really green during the daytime.
thanks i had no idea about the tv cut being on the disc :)
I respectfully disagree about the Atmos track not being much different than on the previous release, I was personally blown away by how much they mixed into the rear and height channels. The score stood out far more than I've ever heard it before and the daytime scenes included so many small details like birds chirping, leaves and wind blowing through trees etc. All in all I'm amazed by the Scream Factory release both visually and auraly.
Another big improvement on this release: the original mono-track; on the Lionsgate release it sounds bad.
True. The mono track on the Lionsgate is not the original mono mix. It's a fold-down of the stereo track. Scream Factory fixed this.
Thank you for this detailed comparison between the two releases. Wasn't sure if the Scream Factory was going to be an upgrade or not. It obviously is.
So it appear this version has superior artwork, a little bit more special features, MARGINALLY better audio, and brighter colour timing.
It's up to you, of course, but are you really willing to spend 20 some dollars on a 4K of a movie you already have?
Nah, the Shout! disc looks way better. The blacks are richer, the grain is fuller, and the details are clearer.
This will turn into a ‘my dad is better than yours’ argument.
They’re both good transfers that appeal to people in different ways. Lionsgate is darker but closer to the original and SF is a revisionist version that ‘looks better’ to a lot of people but isn’t loyal to the original colour timing… that said, Dean Cundey supervised it, so who are we to comment.
Lionsgate is not closer to the original though. Lionsgate's transfer was a 4K remaster of an already remastered print that was botched. Shout!'s 4K remaster comes directly from the OCN, which means it is the way the movie intended to look.
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork John from the movie collector TH-cam channel had the pleasure of watching the 35mm print on release and has his own copy for home consumption and says the Lionsgate is nearer to the original presentation.
The SF new release is from the OCN but that doesn’t mean it’s a carbon copy of the original representation of the movie… it’s a revisionist version overseen by Cundey. That’s why one of the original discs has the original colour timing, which is similar to the Lionsgate 4k version.
So glad there is more colour in this new version. When I got the Lionsgate version I was really sad with the colours, I thought it looked too washed out and grey, I was used to some old DVD copy where the colours popped out more!
Great review Jeff. And I liked the way you pointed out Dean cundey had certified it. But the way I see it this film was originally in metro colour which was a bit of a darkened 70s film process. So the original 4k disk looks the best to me. The new cour timing gives away what the original colour timing hid. Which is that the film was shot in california.😀😀
Kinda blew my Brain how good the Scream Factory version looked.
Lionsgate cover blows Scream away! Original poster all day for me
I have both releases, and I will be keeping both. That way, I can watch whichever version I’m in the mood for.
I waited on ordering this to see which direction they went with in the color grading. The Lions Gate release felt like it was too dark, and I was hoping for an uptick in the brightness of the picture. So, I got Halloween 2 and 3. Only watched H3 so far, but I was blown away with how much more detail and color pop it has compared to the blu ray. Looking forward to seeing the rest.
When you do your Halloween 2 4k, could you do a comparison to the 2018 transfer? I haven't found anyone do a definitive comparison of the two.
Just watched the Scream Factory release, and it looked gorgeous. I couldn't imagine it looking any better.
This is the review I've been looking forward too the most. I got the 40th Anniversary 4K, but I wasn't sure if this was worth another buy. Given the upgrade in color, I think it'll definitely be worth a pick up. Though, you can't beat the cover of the original art on the 40th Anniversary.
4k most all of the time is Worth the upgrade. If you have Dolby vision. It's a no Brainer.
I still just watch my copy on vhs from 1979 I love this movie
You are a purist my friend!
I agree on the slight Atmos upgrade but it is an upgrade. You can hear the difference when they go to pick up Michael and it's raining. Turn it up to hear the difference better lol. Thanks for this comparison, I love this movie. Would've bought it regardless...
Just watched my Scream Factory version last night. One of my all time favorites.
I was skeptical about buying it again after buying the previous 4K disc but I was really impressed with the Dolby Vision treatment making the HDR pop
I never liked the lions gate version. It was to dark. The classroom scene with Laurie looks terrible. The shout factory version in Dolby vision is night and day better. Worth the upgrade .
the artwork is by far my favorite thing about the scream factory edition, it just pops out so nice. thank you for explaining the differences my guy, great as always
Agreed. Very cheesy. Turned me off the whole package. 😆
the new artwork is hideous - a no buy
I wonder if they'll also release Halloween 6, H20 and Resurrection in 4K at some point.
Idk because I think now paramount own them because of now they own Miramax so right is bit of issues but I could see it happen I think scream factory only did 1 to 5 to see if it was good sale I think it was I do hope because Halloween 6 is a beautiful movie yea the story is kinda bad but I like the look of it
Don't leave out the Zombie ones!
@@kingdiamond8875 dont forget that Halloween 2 and 3 are owned by Universal.
@@jeremydrew1227 yea but that wasn’t much a problem it look like they in a partnership or a contract cus scream factory had did a lot of release of them where is I think paramount might be a problem
Jeff did you excellent job explaining what “Original color timing presentation” meant on one of the included Blu-rays.
So it seems like if you own both the Lionsgate 4K release and scream factory 4K release, you have both the original color timing presentation on 4K via Lionsgate and the updated color timing presentation on 4K via scream factory.
I’m glad I own both versions as it’s fun to compare and it’s one of my favorite movies of all time so don’t mind the double dip.
Great Review! You don’t need to convince Halloween fans to “double dib”. Most die hards have every version and format going back to VHS lol I think this is the best Halloween has ever looked and prefer the Scream Factory release over Lionsgate. I love the new artwork but reversed it on the Blu Ray case, so I have the best of both worlds. I’ll watch H20 on VHS this year until a 4K release comes out
I have the Lionsgate 4K, and before that I had the complete collection box set. So I'm set with quality and content. I won't upgrade. Thanks however, this was very informative
If you are a Halloween fan and don't own the scream factory box set getting this new set is a no brainer.
A person’s skin tone doesn’t turn grey in the fall. The Lionsgate version is not the original color timing, they messed up. Scream factory is much closer to the original color timing. Also, the third disc “original color timing” does not look like the Lionsgate transfer, it’s actually closer to the old laserdisc which is the actual theatrical release color timing.
After following you for like a month and watching countless videos on 4K released my wife noticed an up tick in Amazon deliveries, honestly between three and five times a week. So finally one day she says why don't you just spend like $1,000 on Amazon and get it over with. THANK YOU JEFF, for this channel existing
Love it!
I love Shout Factory and how much they put into their releases, can't wait to buy this, my favorite horror film of all time!
I'm upgrading from the Anchor Bay release. Really excited to see this movie in 4k.
Scream factory release transfers or scans will always be better than a regular studio release I feel.
Probably won’t upgrade, at least not this year. Bought a really nice steelbook last year that has the lionsgate transfer, which sounds to be still very solid
I don’t agree that 70’s era films are drab and dreary in color. Having seen several archive film prints in the theater now of Halloween that film really pops. I feel the 2018 disc goes for that more drab or “natural” look a lot of modern films go for these days. Great review though.
I kinda prefer the gloomy, darker look of the 2018 version. It just fits the atmosphere better IMO.
I'm glad I got this release. I bought the Lionsgate version a while back and the color timing threw me off. The duller color pallete was odd for me. The Scream Factory release's colors are the way I remember the movie always being, just with better resolution.
I was wondering which version I had, honestly if I didn't already have the rather excellent 4k Steelbook (which I think is the Lionsgate release) I may have considered the shout factory although my preference would be the colour timing on the Lionsgate as its meant to be winter and it does a great job of looking like October, not sure I feel this film should really be popping with colour, especially looking warmer with bright green grass, looking at comparrison shots between the two, I do favour the Lionsgate release!
Screenshots have taken your reviews to the next level. Bravo.
I have to credit the good folks at caps-a-holic for all their work.
@@JeffRauseo That's a terrific resource! Easier to navigate than the otherwise excellent DVD Beaver, particulaly on a tablet.
@@RodneyAllanPoe agreed. I wish I could get in touch with them personally. I have tried and I link to their site in every video I use them for, but I don’t know who runs it!
Purely from the side-by-side comparisons in this video, it seems the Lionsgate transfer crushes the dark tones.
I like the Lionsgate one. On previous 1080p & dvd editions there was a debate surrounding two different color timings - both Cundey approved. One ran a little hot and felt too modern and the other was that fall look. I suspect these are the two options Shout/scream pulled from opting to keep the colder tome on the blu ray. Lionsgate audio is lacking though.
I agree
Excellent comparison
Getting back into physical media collecting after some of my boxes in my garage got stolen from seller this year. Couldn’t pass this up! They did a great job to modernize the transfer while also respecting the history with all they included. I watch Halloween during the spooky season as much as I watch Home Alone during the merry season. Loved HK too! Planning on going tonite after only streaming it last week.
Excellent review! This is what makes you the best! You put out there both and showed which is better.
I've got the 2018 version and was genuinely curious when I saw this in store! Glad you clarified what it's all about 😊
I got halloween and halloween 2 from screen factory and i cannot complain❗️
I love your videos dude. I’ve been hoping someone would do a good comparison video in this.
Looks kind of like the original release was trying to maintain that sort-of-washed-out look things shot on film in the 70s tended to have while the Scream factory transfer was going for a brighter and more modern color palette
For a film of this importance, I tend to get all available editions. I have both!
Thank you for this. I remember that you LOVED the old edition. You said it was one of the best 4k transfers (and you literally made me buy it 😂) . I'm curious to see if the new one is better :)
I still love it vs the Blu-ray. But damn did Scream Factory do well.
@@JeffRauseo
Then I'll have to buy it as well 😂 Too bad the blu ray is region locked as I'm European.
Will you review the new scream 4k edition? :)
@@jimm8176 I will do Scream! But it’s been delayed here in the US
@@jimm8176 get yourself a multi region 4k player then. I’m in the UK and my Sony X700 plays discs from all regions. For another £100 or so over the normal asking price, it’s a no brainer.
@@JeffRauseo my copy arrived yesterday. It looks solid and with DV is a decent upgrade over the 2011 Scream Blu ray
Color timing is basicly upscaleing old movies like halloween to blu ray and it isnt native rescan more of a upscale rescan scream factory is the native true scan color trimming uses a machine to reverse the native scan to red green and blue
What fascinating here is the screen grabs from the lions gate look like what you would see on a tv or monitor that does not have hdr enabled… or uncalibrated. An hdr presentation is much like a raw image, when I watch the lionsgate 4K blu ray it’s vivid and contrasty.
I think the bonus 4:3 vhs quality TV version included on the Shout Version was a super fun extra. I love when they include off beat stuff like that.
Great review. Im really happy with these first 5 Halloween films Scream Factory brought us. They are beautiful transfers. Oh and I agree, I thoroughly enjoy Halloween Kills.
I hope they make more scream factory editions like that for the rest of the Halloween movies not on 4K yet.
I thought the new color timing looked great! I'm keeping both editions as well👍
I like Shout Factory’s more. Don’t forget the original art work on flip side of insert on all 5 releases.
I love that there’s 3 versions of the movie in the shout factory release: 4K transfer, HD extended cut, & broadcast version.
Actually 5. New transfer on 4k and Blu ray. Original Blu Ray color timing, extended edition and TV cut.
The Scream Factory 4K-UHD Wins! The 4K-UHDs of both HII and HIII are rad too.
Just picked up the scream version today. I have the dvd and wasn’t going to upgrade but this was the best of the series.
I have gone to three different places before I finally found the Scream Factory Halloween 4K Release. I Love The TV Extended Version of Halloween (1978). That was the #1
Reason I bought This.
DISC 3 of the Scream Factory actually has the TV version as originally aired on NBC. The eye slits in opening murder are smaller as originally edited for network sensors and dialog has been altered as originally aired. There has never been a true televised version of Halloween on domestic home video as the extended versions on VHS/DVD although stated on the packaging as the Television or extended version is a composite edit of the original theatrical version with the additional 12 minutes. There has been only one true Home Video release of the full frame televised version with the edits and censored nudity of the first kill nudity and PJ Soles nudity and that was a Japanese Laserdisc. Again, the Shout factory 4k/b-r edition although not listed on the back of the slip DOES IN FACT include for the first time in the US the original censored broadcast version.
I think I'd prefer the more color rich choice, but I don't own either yet. I'm not sure I could justify a brand new screen factory edition though if the original is significantly discounted.
I only had the 2012 blu ray release, saw this video, and went out to get both 4K options lol
The Lionsgate is definitely less saturated, while the Scream Factory has much brighter colors.
Both look great, much better than my original blu ray for sure, but they’re 2 different moods, and I can see either disc being someone’s favorite.
Glad I got the SF 4K release of the first film. I found it to be a worthy upgrade, especially considering my copy of the box set from years back got destroyed in a flood a few years ago. Definitely plan on getting the rest of the 4K versions of the films gradually again.
I bought this new set, still waiting on Halloween 2 to be delivered, but really happy so far
After all this time I think I going to double dip and get the scream factory version since I’ve already have the lionsgate one
I got the first 4k release for under $15, I'm fine not upgrading
I bought the scream factory Halloween 3 and love the packaging, might buy 1.2 and 4 just because of it
Idk I kinda like Lions Gate on the night scenes & Scream Factory on the Day scenes, and the night scenes are when the scary stuff happens so I might give edge to Lions Gate. I don’t have the Lions Gate but I do have the SF
Looked great..my lg c9 had flickering issues with dolby vision on. Worked fine after shutting off.
In France we've got similar problem. Our 4K bluray is probably based on lionsgate copy (very cold blue winter colors) with tv uncut long version. I bought it and sold it immediatly. I prefer my old bluray version with much much brighter warm summer colors.
Scream factory is from the original negative while lionsgate is the interpositive, take that how you’d like
Great video! Quick correction though, as I got my copy the other day. Disc 3 includes the original color timing version, the extended cut, AND the original 4:3 television cut for the first time on home media. For whatever reason, it isn’t listed on the back cover.
It was listed - the TV extended cut. I mentioned it in the special features
@@JeffRauseo Yes, but there is an additional television cut not listed. You mentioned that you wished that either release included it.
@@jemfilms oh I didn’t see that one too! That’s awesome
@@JeffRauseo For sure! Love that they included a 4:3 version that feels closer to a VHS experience.
@@JeffRauseo Disc 3 also includes the original NBC cut that aired in 1981. The extended cut is just the film with TV scenes spliced in. Both are included on disc 3. It was a late addition thus not listed on the cover.
I didn't expect to be double dipping on 4Ks but this one was worth it and important to have the set. Terminator 2 will be another that I'll happily double dip on if we get a better transfer and perhaps Ghostbusters. Everything else though, I'm pretty happy with.
Original mono-audio for the win! I love when 4K releases for older films contain theatrical audio. 7.1 and Atmos seem a bit overkill for some of these IMO.
I needed this, keep up the great work Jeff! Is the Bluray included with SF the same Bluray included with Lionsgate?
I have them both. I like the lionsgate one better. Both are great though...
Hey Jeff! Will you be comparing the KL Silence of the Lambs 4K with the Criterion Collection blu-ray?
Yes! Coming soon - just got my copy today. Need to do Misery and some others first
I guess I'll buy it for the 5th time...when it's on sale.
Turning the Live Color setting to medium or high on a Sony TV the Lionsgate will look a lot like Scream Factory.
I've seen the comparison video from this. I think the Scream factory version has some scenes that look better and the Lionsgate has some scenes that look better. For me, absolutely not worth getting the Scream factory if you already own the Lionsgate one
Agreed. I can't believe anyone can actually justify the value of completely repurchasing the exact same movie in 4K when the difference is so marginal. Even if money is no object, it's quite ridiculous imo
@@HowayTheMags It would be a mental decision. I can understand it if you don't own either version and want to try and decide which one is for you but owning both is pure nonsense
@@HowayTheMags I believe Jeff once said Halloween is his second favourite movie ever, so for him, I guess it does make sense to delve into that.
I do agree, though, it's weird that this is being posed as a major possibility for more people
I sold My lionsgate copy on ebay for $25 and bought the Scream Factory for $30 so was definitely worth it for me.
@@HowayTheMags perfectionists might disagree
Love this review... Thanks a bunch for the confidence builder coming from a Lionsgate 4k Halloween owner!
I got the 4k limited Steelbook from bestbuy OCT 2020 and looked amazing so I don't think was worth the upgrade. Lionsgate does good stuff. Saw on 4k was one of the best remasters I have ever seen. Looks fantastic.
I also have the ultra rare blu ray steelbook of 2 which was a 4k scan. So I just bought 3-5 shout 4ks. kept my others.
I would have got them all had it been a box set with 1 Poster. 5 Different posters etc was too much.
I have both copies
Big Woop
Looking at screenshots and other info, I personally prefer the look of the Scream Factory version, so I bought that one and sold off my Lionsgate 4K to offset the cost. And yeah it's really nice that it still includes the other color timing as an option so I can still go back to that one if I want to.
I got all the scream factory 4K discs
Definitely gunna have to double dip and get the scream factory version for Halloween 1,4 and 5!
Do more of these 4K showdowns! (Where applicable). Fun and new segment!
It's supposed to be Fall, and it's supposed to be dark.
I've been waiting for someone to compare them. I have the old release and don't care for scream factorys posters for the new release. I like the 2 steelbook posters. I may get the multiple movies eventually.
I think the 35th anniversary digibook looks very good...
Still wondering what your preference is in color timing… I was fairly pleased with the tone of the Lionsgate and the audio… obviously as a super fan of movie you’re going to go maximal with all versions but I’m not sure you stated YOUR preference.
One thing to note. There are more features on the discs not listed on the cover. A few of these had late additions like Halloween 5 with the additional footage.
Halloween also contains The Night She came Home documentary and the original TV cut as it aired on NBC in 1981.
So the Shout! release contains 5 versions of the film plus every special feature ever released. Its a full package that goes beyond the new 4k scan and slaughters the Lionsgate release. The Shout set feels more like a 40th anniversary release then the Lionsgate version does. Its worth millionth time dipping especially if your favorite horror film is Halloween just like mine is.
What's the 5th version?
@@austinwillcut4919 there is the:
4k disc
Blu ray disc with 4k scan
Original Blu Ray release
Extended edition with TV scenes
TV cut as it aired in 1981
@@jeremydrew1227 So the censored tv cut is the 5th version I see.
Whichever one looks better, is all I care about...
I Jess you didn’t notice that the other side of the cover insert is the original movie poster art.
I’m thinking about it just for the special features. I prefer the night scenes on the Lionsgate release though…