Ed has such a powerful stance! It's great to see someone both so keen and knowledgeable about what they do, and acting as such a great representative for their business. Good lad!
Man. It’s so nice to watch other people clean tanks. Started at a new job this year as an CNC machinist “apprentice” and in the first 2 weeks I cleaned 5 Mazak tanks. Not really a bad job. Just a super dirty job.
Funny I have spent the last 2 nights cleaning and scraping the goop in the sump of the big Monarch. Even after 3 flushes and a bunch of wire brush action it still looks like muddy slimy water. 1/2" of grease and coolant residue over an 18ft lathe is a LOT of dirt to clean up. I so wish my sump had been as clean as yours!!
He put that tramp oil collector on a while back and it performed great. We ran the CNC machines hard for 16 to 24 hours a day so it has a lot of oils and grease in it. Cleaned the tank every 2 months and it was always a slimy shoveling mess - even with a large vacuum truck.
Definitely bought a 1 micron filter after I saw the first 5 minutes of this vid for my shop vac in terms of sucking up oils and sediments. Thanks for this!
That was actually pretty clean sump. Still the cleaning was probably overdue, and you all did good job. Keeping it maintained regularly and tracked is important.
Great to see this whole process. Huge thank you. 'all coolant have a multiplier'. Humm I have not heard that from my coolant provider. Something to discuss with them.
If you haven't been using a multiplier, you've been doing it wrong, or the multiplier is 1 and no multiplication is required. Read the bucket the coolant comes in. Or look on the coolant company's website.
Every coolant is a little different. It depends on the formulation. Your supplier should tell you when the conversion isn’t 1, otherwise you will be prone to wasting concentrate by running too rich.
My machinists hated cleaning day, my shop foreman said that the sumps smelled like a "sumo wrestlers jockey shorts" LOL. I question was, how do you know what that smells like. Thanks for sharing.
Enjoyed this our grinders all have a variety of different sumps with different oil and coolant mixtures...Yeah my CHEM rep only gave me a paper tote bag at Christmas..That polo is looking sharp😆
Gday John, this is a great subject, I thought there would of been more fine chips in the bottom of the sump, I expected to see quite a thick layer in there, great video as always, thank you, Cheers Matty
As a Maintenance Tech I had to actually shovel piles of chips out of a large Coolant tank because of a broken screen on the chip conveyor. It was a huge pain in the rear!
Still using 251C on all other machines - the 355D was a test on this machine (which makes fixture plates) to see about better tool life on steel (answer: definitely better tool life!)
Good stuff! I just switched to 355D as well, supposed to be great for aluminum which is all I run. Would you be able to share that concentration chart?
Haha, thanks for this. I literally just got my first used haas super mini mill in my garage and thought how do I clean this and this was first on the list
Zero the refractometer to the water you are using for accuracy? That made me chuckle. In my shop we're luck if anybody ever actually pulls out the refractometer.
I had been using qualichem for few years now. Had great sump life. Then about 1.5 years I did a clean and fresh charge. They change make up because sump life sucks now.
Was this done in a one day’s work? I’m about to swap coolants on a UMC750 from Qualichem to synergy 735 and I’m nervous cause I really want to make the transition to synergy 735 but I’m afraid to ruin the coolant with old coolant left in the machine. Wish me luck guys
I've worked at places over the years where they set aside 1 day every 4 to 6 months to have the machine operators do this exactly. Nowadays I'm seeing this going to maintenance and guess what....? IT'S NOT GETTING DONE! 2 to 5 years to schedule a PM? Make sure to take pictures of the skin rashes after every incident of exposure when it gets bad.
I think the cleaner then the rinse was a bit much. I change out every 3-4 years as well after switching to blaser. Ran cimcool before and it didn't have the sump life that blaser does. But I also take really good care of our sumps.
Our machines are not the clean. we use Blazer something something, but we machine alot of different materials so that might why why they get so dirty some time to time :D
We struggle at our shop machining copper semiconductors because we can’t change or add anything to our cool based on SOP procedures required by the customer. Meaning we can’t use any cleaners or anti bacterial additives, Doesn’t make sense some higher ups that have no idea thinks it will ruin the part. Our cleaning process after the part is done would stop that but oh well🤦♂️
Your coolant is dirty until you have to cut coolant cheese out of your tank. I cleaned a mori vertical mill that hadn't had a coolant change in close to 10 years, not my fault I had taken over the machine and job/position from another guy. I literally had a black, brown and creamy white build up 4 inches think in the corner of the tank. It didn't have a nasty odor, but the consistency of it was disturbing. I swear I could see it moving and pulsating on it's own. I had to shovel it out of the tank.
First you pull the cover off and inspect the coolant. Then you find the FNG and tell him to clean the sump and put in the coolant. Then you go to the breakroom and get a cup of coffee. Come back, stare over FNG's shoulder, grunt semi approvingly, and go sit down until he's done.
That's fine when they're not your machines. Trusting a FNG to clean a machine, that costs hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, isn't the way to go when they're your machines.
Seems rather excessive and very expensive when u factor in all the hazmat disposal cost i just suck out the coolant and rinse with water / remove chips and i only have to do that about every year and a half or so i highly recommend using oil skimmers and an air bubbler to extend coolant life
Nothing worse than when the door of a machine is opened and that sour milk/vinegar smell slams into you. Tells the story of how much the business cares about their coolant.
As a service technician I have zero customer who do any cleaning...ever... period. I was on a steroid iv this year to stop a huge rash after cleaning out a tank after 12 years of service ....I couldn't get the conveyor out it was a rusted blob
I watched this, and now I have guilt. I let my coolant and machines down. Thankfully they have no rights, so until Jonny 5 comes and smites me for robot neglect, I'm going to keep on feeling bad that it never quite makes it to the top of my to do list.
Really.. ? Can't I just build a shop pumped system with a magnetic motored pond pump, and a 5 gallon bucket sand filtration reservoir draining into a main tank... ?? My mom built mine.
Like the channel, content and smart guy John... I just can’t take the title for this cleaning guy... Sales Engineer. Millions of people bust their asses to get their Engineering degree from a highly respected institutions with well accredited programs..... On the other hand, in some company somewhere, the company’s logo changes or for some other dumb reason, new business cards are to be ordered. Some deepshit decides he/she wants “Engineer” at the end of his/her. OK... if this is how it’s gonna be, then I title myself “The God of Sales Engineers” and I demand daily human sacrifice from my subjects... If not done as I commanded, I will rain down some ill-shit upon thee. The correct itle is “Sales Person”... Use it...
Rolltech Innovation manufactures machine coolant saver. Serious threats to productivity and health are bacteria and fungi which are commonly found in industrial coolants. This coolant bacteria filter has some advantageous features include: last a life time, with guarantee of extended life of coolant with bacteria filter - no consumables, no electricity, no chemical dosing, etc. It is a one time investment, ROI within 4-6 Months, Saves on input of fresh oil and disposal cost like etp treatment, or giving it to authorised recycler. These mineral oil based coolant are prone to generation of bacteria which produces foul odour, often from hydrogen sulfide [rotten egg smell]. Rolltech Innovation "Aqualogic" filter is an innovative and economical method of continuously controlling these micro organisms and the odour they generate. "Aqualogic" bacteria coolant filter consists of series of high-purity multi-metal fibres cased within a stainless steel tube. the dissimilar ions in the multimetal alloy bed undergo a natural electrochemical reaction, also known as an oxidation-reduction reaction. Which Kills the all the Microbial activity in the coolant 24/7 call us at +91-702-723-6191 or write to us at rolltechin(at)gmail.com
I'm glad he clarified that it was "RP" and not "Our Pee" because I was beginning to think that special additive wasn't so proprietary.
LOL
"Its super-effective"
In my shop. we put RP on everything!
@@jasondennis Hey man, you gotta mark your territory, right? It lets other guys know to keep their hands off your tools.
Pee is a special additive deposited into the tanks in every machine shop by us second shifters! lol
Ed has such a powerful stance! It's great to see someone both so keen and knowledgeable about what they do, and acting as such a great representative for their business. Good lad!
Yeah, he wasn't just a marketing rep bozo. And he got his hands dirty.
Man. It’s so nice to watch other people clean tanks. Started at a new job this year as an CNC machinist “apprentice” and in the first 2 weeks I cleaned 5 Mazak tanks. Not really a bad job. Just a super dirty job.
Funny I have spent the last 2 nights cleaning and scraping the goop in the sump of the big Monarch. Even after 3 flushes and a bunch of wire brush action it still looks like muddy slimy water. 1/2" of grease and coolant residue over an 18ft lathe is a LOT of dirt to clean up. I so wish my sump had been as clean as yours!!
I look forward to watching the video of that this weekend.
That was the cleanest dirty sump i have ever seen😂😂. He will probably faint if he sees our sump.
He put that tramp oil collector on a while back and it performed great. We ran the CNC machines hard for 16 to 24 hours a day so it has a lot of oils and grease in it. Cleaned the tank every 2 months and it was always a slimy shoveling mess - even with a large vacuum truck.
Not only are yor videos interesting and fun, but you also show how a responsible company deals with waste.
Definitely bought a 1 micron filter after I saw the first 5 minutes of this vid for my shop vac in terms of sucking up oils and sediments. Thanks for this!
That was actually pretty clean sump. Still the cleaning was probably overdue, and you all did good job. Keeping it maintained regularly and tracked is important.
Great to see this whole process. Huge thank you.
'all coolant have a multiplier'. Humm I have not heard that from my coolant provider. Something to discuss with them.
All our coolant suppliers had a label on the barrel saying what multiplier to use.
If you haven't been using a multiplier, you've been doing it wrong, or the multiplier is 1 and no multiplication is required. Read the bucket the coolant comes in. Or look on the coolant company's website.
Every coolant is a little different. It depends on the formulation. Your supplier should tell you when the conversion isn’t 1, otherwise you will be prone to wasting concentrate by running too rich.
imagine having a coolant system lol
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You do it's called blood.
imagine being so weak you have to have a robot spray coolant for you. handheld WD-40 spray can gang
@@johngriffin618 gallon @HF with 20% coupon in a spray bottle.
I use a syringe with denatured alcohol for machining aluminium :D
Cleanest sump in the world
My machinists hated cleaning day, my shop foreman said that the sumps smelled like a "sumo wrestlers jockey shorts" LOL. I question was, how do you know what that smells like. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely unique content! Thanks a lot guys!!!
pretty informative. Didn't even think that mold and other micro organisms could ever be a problem
Ohh yeah, it can get to a point where you open a machine's doors and nearly (or do) vomit just from the smell.
Enjoyed this our grinders all have a variety of different sumps with different oil and coolant mixtures...Yeah my CHEM rep only gave me a paper tote bag at Christmas..That polo is looking sharp😆
Gday John, this is a great subject, I thought there would of been more fine chips in the bottom of the sump, I expected to see quite a thick layer in there, great video as always, thank you, Cheers Matty
10 episodes from now they're gonna reveal that Ed was secretly the villain this whole time, to absolutely no ones surprise.
What is the best way to wash the protective glass from the old coolant? When processing aluminum, a white plaque remains.
As a Maintenance Tech I had to actually shovel piles of chips out of a large Coolant tank because of a broken screen on the chip conveyor. It was a huge pain in the rear!
Hey John, I noticed you switched from Qualichem Xtreme Cut 251C to Q-Cool 355D, any particular reason for the switch?
Still using 251C on all other machines - the 355D was a test on this machine (which makes fixture plates) to see about better tool life on steel (answer: definitely better tool life!)
First?? Always appreciate the work you guys put in to your videos! This is especially applicable to our admittedly nasty VF-2 at school. Thanks!
What a nice vendor
Good stuff! I just switched to 355D as well, supposed to be great for aluminum which is all I run. Would you be able to share that concentration chart?
Wonder if this would work on a CNC plasma table to keep the rust down on the water table.
Haha, thanks for this. I literally just got my first used haas super mini mill in my garage and thought how do I clean this and this was first on the list
Zero the refractometer to the water you are using for accuracy? That made me chuckle. In my shop we're luck if anybody ever actually pulls out the refractometer.
I had been using qualichem for few years now. Had great sump life. Then about 1.5 years I did a clean and fresh charge. They change make up because sump life sucks now.
This bro is jacked
Is this good for grinding machines?
Fir... not gonna do it. Keep up the awesome videos!
How much does it cost for this service?
Was this done in a one day’s work?
I’m about to swap coolants on a UMC750 from Qualichem to synergy 735 and I’m nervous cause I really want to make the transition to synergy 735 but I’m afraid to ruin the coolant with old coolant left in the machine. Wish me luck guys
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I've worked at places over the years where they set aside 1 day every 4 to 6 months to have the machine operators do this exactly. Nowadays I'm seeing this going to maintenance and guess what....? IT'S NOT GETTING DONE! 2 to 5 years to schedule a PM? Make sure to take pictures of the skin rashes after every incident of exposure when it gets bad.
Very interesting. Thank you.
Ah yes the job for the apprentice besides making coffee.
Florian Lucs Then the next morning he can clean out the water-jet machine!🤑
i am running 3.5 years now same coolant. just top it up every now and then. I am not allowed to change becuase the tanks are 500 or so liters.
Which brand of coolant do you use?
When is your EDM coming?
Impressive
What coolant? I am working on a lathe, that doesn't have any coolant. (This machine has a tank, but this tank doesn't work since 14 years)
very interesting
I think the cleaner then the rinse was a bit much. I change out every 3-4 years as well after switching to blaser. Ran cimcool before and it didn't have the sump life that blaser does. But I also take really good care of our sumps.
"... sometimes machining a lot of copper..."
sheeeiiiit
That guy knows his shit
Our machines are not the clean. we use Blazer something something, but we machine alot of different materials so that might why why they get so dirty some time to time :D
We struggle at our shop machining copper semiconductors because we can’t change or add anything to our cool based on SOP procedures required by the customer. Meaning we can’t use any cleaners or anti bacterial additives,
Doesn’t make sense some higher ups that have no idea thinks it will ruin the part. Our cleaning process after the part is done would stop that but oh well🤦♂️
Your coolant is dirty until you have to cut coolant cheese out of your tank. I cleaned a mori vertical mill that hadn't had a coolant change in close to 10 years, not my fault I had taken over the machine and job/position from another guy. I literally had a black, brown and creamy white build up 4 inches think in the corner of the tank. It didn't have a nasty odor, but the consistency of it was disturbing. I swear I could see it moving and pulsating on it's own. I had to shovel it out of the tank.
"Pulsating" hahaha
First you pull the cover off and inspect the coolant. Then you find the FNG and tell him to clean the sump and put in the coolant. Then you go to the breakroom and get a cup of coffee. Come back, stare over FNG's shoulder, grunt semi approvingly, and go sit down until he's done.
That's fine when they're not your machines. Trusting a FNG to clean a machine, that costs hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, isn't the way to go when they're your machines.
You should evaporate the water out of the coolant before having a company dispose of it.
Seems rather excessive and very expensive when u factor in all the hazmat disposal cost i just suck out the coolant and rinse with water / remove chips and i only have to do that about every year and a half or so i highly recommend using oil skimmers and an air bubbler to extend coolant life
Nothing worse than when the door of a machine is opened and that sour milk/vinegar smell slams into you. Tells the story of how much the business cares about their coolant.
Coolant has 10 year life in a haas.
As a service technician I have zero customer who do any cleaning...ever... period. I was on a steroid iv this year to stop a huge rash after cleaning out a tank after 12 years of service ....I couldn't get the conveyor out it was a rusted blob
What's the purpose of the balls?
Terry it’s part of his oil skimmer
I watched this, and now I have guilt. I let my coolant and machines down. Thankfully they have no rights, so until Jonny 5 comes and smites me for robot neglect, I'm going to keep on feeling bad that it never quite makes it to the top of my to do list.
🔧😊👍
Really.. ?
Can't I just build a shop pumped system with a magnetic motored pond pump, and a 5 gallon bucket sand filtration reservoir draining into a main tank... ??
My mom built mine.
Pure marketing video - useless.
If I want to see something like this I visit the sellers website.
Like the channel, content and smart guy John... I just can’t take the title for this cleaning guy... Sales Engineer. Millions of people bust their asses to get their Engineering degree from a highly respected institutions with well accredited programs..... On the other hand, in some company somewhere, the company’s logo changes or for some other dumb reason, new business cards are to be ordered. Some deepshit decides he/she wants “Engineer” at the end of his/her. OK... if this is how it’s gonna be, then I title myself “The God of Sales Engineers” and I demand daily human sacrifice from my subjects... If not done as I commanded, I will rain down some ill-shit upon thee. The correct itle is “Sales Person”... Use it...
Engineers jerk themselves off to much.. You know the definition of engineer doesnt include the words degree.
Rolltech Innovation manufactures machine coolant saver. Serious threats to productivity and health are bacteria and fungi which are commonly found in industrial coolants. This coolant bacteria filter has some advantageous features include: last a life time, with guarantee of extended life of coolant with bacteria filter - no consumables, no electricity, no chemical dosing, etc.
It is a one time investment, ROI within 4-6 Months, Saves on input of fresh oil and disposal cost like etp treatment, or giving it to authorised recycler.
These mineral oil based coolant are prone to generation of bacteria which produces foul odour, often from hydrogen sulfide [rotten egg smell].
Rolltech Innovation "Aqualogic" filter is an innovative and economical method of continuously controlling these micro organisms and the odour they generate. "Aqualogic" bacteria coolant filter consists of series of high-purity multi-metal fibres cased within a stainless steel tube. the dissimilar ions in the multimetal alloy bed undergo a natural electrochemical reaction, also known as an oxidation-reduction reaction. Which Kills the all the Microbial activity in the coolant 24/7
call us at +91-702-723-6191 or write to us at rolltechin(at)gmail.com
This is just another sales/marketing video...