Machine Tool Coolant: Tools of Coolant
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- The first video in our Machine Tool Coolant Video Series takes a look at the tools most often used during the preparation of machine tool coolant and coolant tank maintenance. See all the videos from the Coolant Series here: bit.ly/Haas_CoolantVidSeries
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Got this video in my recommended again. Great to see the video where Andrew got his start in Haas videos. Also a good informative video
Don't miss the #Haas Automation Machine Tool Coolant series! In the first video of the series, we take a look at the tools most often used during the preparation of machine tool coolant and coolant tank maintenance: th-cam.com/video/itQOP_JjilM/w-d-xo.html. #MadeInAmerica
Check out our new video - Tools of Coolant - part one of a five-part series.
The Machine Tool Coolant Series can be watched in any order. However, if you are new to mixing and maintaining your coolant, we recommend you start by watching the Tools of Coolant. This video gives an overview of the tools that make coolant maintenance easier.
See it on the #Haas Automation TH-cam channel at th-cam.com/video/itQOP_JjilM/w-d-xo.html
Great video! Thanks for the search items at the end.
Yes, very well put video.
great video! thanks very much!
very informative. thanks!
very informative. Thanks
brilliant.....i never knew some of these things
The shop I work at uses cutting oil mixed with diesel. Is there something wrong with that?
hey, guys! i'm from Latvia. Have a question how too high profee: how many time to this job you need per day, because on our factory teamleaders wanna see cnc perfectly cleaned, but don't give a time and don't understood, what it's not a few minetes job. Sometimes i run 2-4 different centers and cannot done it, cause must produce=) nice video, understood all of dat, but interesting how dat wors on HAAS factories. Thanks!
Where do I find that fine screen to keep chips out of the pump ?
You say you use Castrol MB50. We used to use that, now we don't as it says on the MSDS, " contains material that may cause target organ damage, based on animal data. Target organs: Kidneys" Needless to say, we don't use that anymore. we switched to a product called 585XT, been great.
Where can I get the template log sheet for the coolant mixture and chemistry?
Awesome video btw.
Hi Fnu Julyanto - Thanks for the compliment! And great question. You can download the coolant maintenance log used in the "Tools of Coolant" video from our #Haas Online Resource Center. Visit diy.haascnc.com/maintaining-your-coolant-mixture and click on the bottom box, or just click bit.ly/Haas_coolant_log. Thanks again!
I would like the chip strainer shown in the video @10:30- I asked my local rep and they couldn't find it. I have a VF1.
Hi brian kelly hahn - We're very sorry for the inconvenience, but glad you're interested in a product used in the video. You can actually purchase the items on HaasParts.com: haasparts.com/
The part numbers you'll want to query are 30-10903 (SUPPLEMENTAL CHIP TRAY KIT) and 30-10904 (FILTER, SUPPLEMENTAL CHIP TRAY, FILTER BASKET X10). You'll also need to know your machine serial number.
We hope this helps! Please feel free to contact us at contact@HaasCNC.com if you have any further questions. Thanks Brian.
Haas Automation, Inc.
Thanks! You were faster and more helpful than my local rep that couldn't find the part. Please keep up great work with the parts website and these great videos. The more info the better!
Can you share a source for those pH/hardness test strips?
Hi Rio97621 - Thanks for your question! Below are three links providing a few options if you're interested in the water quality test strips:
www.hach.com/5-in-1-water-quality-test-strips/product?id=7640211609
www.amazon.com/AQUACHEK-5-IN-1-WATER-QUALITY-STRIPS/dp/B001TIRTJM
www.diywatertesting.com/products/aquachek-5-in-1-test-strips-bottle-of-50.html
Additionally, if you're interested in learning more about or purchasing any of the other tools showcased in Machine Tool Coolant: Tools of Coolant, we've provided some useful search terms toward the end of this video. You can type these into a Google search engine to view results, such as where to purchase water quality test strips. Thanks again, and we hope this was helpful!
I am a student at CSUN and I am getting ready to flush the system.Could you please recommend a type of high alkaline solution to use. I am a bit hesitant to just buy any kind since I will be using this in a VF4. I would really appreciate it.Thank you
Delbert Stewart Hi Delbert. Most of the larger coolant manufacturers will have an alkaline cleaner they either supply or that they will recommend; it might be best to start with your coolant supplier to check their recommendation. Since we are using Castrol brand coolant in the Haas factory, we have used Castrol's "Flexiclean" Heavy Duty Multi-Purpose Alkaline Cleaner in the few instances when we've needed to thoroughly clean out a machine's entire coolant system. The Castrol Flexiclean cleaner should work fine for your VF-4, if you don't find another resource. Hope this helps!
What type of coolant concentrate?
hi,
can i use same refractometer for sugar, alcohol and coolant measurement?
yes
What brand of coolant are you using here? I will be working with mild steel and aluinmum
Hi William. Chesson - We are using Castrol Hysol MB-50 in this video. We also use it throughout the Haas factory. It is a high oil content semi-synthetic water soluble coolant that works quite effectively on both steel and aluminum. Hope this helps!
Why aren't you using XBB products? We have used Alusol SL 51 XBB for over two years now and its the best cutting fluid I've ever seen. I can see the comment was made 2 years ago - have you started using XBB by now?
Why should we add a concentrate into the water, but not vice versia? Do you have a clear video explonation on that?
euclid9718, The water soluble oils used in most coolant concentrates work best when poured into a larger batch of water. You'll need to contact your coolant supplier to get the exact reason this happens chemically but we show an example of mixing coolant both ways in this video here: th-cam.com/video/Rv1kU0UrsBo/w-d-xo.html
Let's say you run a machine purely for prototyping and it gets low usage. In other words, perhaps you run it once every couple of weeks. What's the best way to manage coolant and what type?
Martin05rc, that is a good and unusual question. There are several things you should probably consider when running your coolant intermittently.
Minimize evaporation: Evaporation of the water in your coolant mixture is likely what you’ll need to check most often. The hotter the ambient temperature the more quickly the water will evaporate out of the solution. Luckily this tends to leave most of the cutting fluid behind. You can add more water to the existing coolant but be careful to add at least a small portion of new cutting fluid to the “make-up” water as some coolants do not tolerate adding straight water to an existing batch. We look at this in several of our “coolant” videos. You can minimize coolant evaporation by leaving the covers on the coolant tank. This keeps any air movement across the top of the coolant from increasing evaporation.
If evaporation is significant you might consider laying plastic sheeting or
something similar directly on top of the coolant to really minimize air
contact, similar to how swimming pool owners sometimes approach this problem.
Check concentration: Because the concentration of your coolant increases as the water evaporates out (the ratio of cutting fluid to water increases) you need to check your concentration regularly and particularly after it has been out of use for a period of time. This will tellyou if you need to top up the tank with a rich or lean mixture. Again, look at some of the other “coolant” videos for help with these calculations.
Mix coolant before running: Some coolant types and brands are more likely than others to separate during times of inactivity. This is something you will need to test for with the coolant you are using. Some shops will run their coolant systems to “re-mix” the coolant after it has been sitting. You may want to consider periodically mixing the coolant even when the machine is idle depending on how your coolant performs in this manner.
Thanks for your detailed reply. We've seen what I am going to call "growth" on the surface of our VF3-SS's coolant in the tank. I don't remember what type of coolant we are using. Are there types that promote bacterial growth or even mold if left sitting for weeks. I'm just concerned about the idea of a machine not running for many weeks and then seeing use for, say, a full week or two. That pretty much describes our utilization cycles. Thanks again.
martin05rc, Most modern high performance coolants include some sort of anti-bacterial agent in their chemical makeup. The coolant we run here at the factory is Castrol Hysol MB-50, it's a semi-synthetic high oil content fluid. It has proved very successful for pretty much all the materials we cut here. But we also have a well developed coolant maintenance program. Speaking in broad generalities there are 3 types of cutting fluids used by most shops. Soluble oils, these have the highest oil content and have high lubricity and are typically good for heavy cuts and rust prevention. But they can have more trouble with bacterial growth, don't have the best cooling properties, and typically have the shortest tank life.
Full Synthetics have no natural oils, so they are generally best for lighter cutting and are often the coolants most likely to rust your parts if you get the concentration wrong. But they do very well against bacteria, have good cooling and typically great tank life.
Semi-Synthetics, like the Castrol we use here, generally strike a good balance between the properties of Soluble and Full Synthetic coolants. They have high enough lubricity for heavy cutting, decent cooling, good rust prevention, and good tank life.
All of that said, however often your coolant is being used, it's important to keep the chemistry (concentration and alkalinity) correct and the coolant clean.
If you have lots of chips in the tank and tramp oil sitting on the surface it makes it much easier for bacteria to get a grip on your coolant. The bacteria loves to eat the tramp oil that typically comes off oily parts and gets washed into the tank.
martin05rc,
Here is a link to another Coolant video where we show cleaning out a tank. But we also talk about checking the chemistry of the tank. th-cam.com/video/NvyNUn2sp3Q/w-d-xo.html
And here is a link to our Oil Skimmer unit. Customers have had good success with these keeping the tramp oil off of their coolant without a lot of additional work on their part since it can run on it's own after your done working for the day. parts.haascnc.com/haasparts/en/USD/Performance-Upgrade/Coolant-Upgrades/Mill-Coolant/COOLANT-TANK-OIL-SKIMMER-OPTION/p/OIL%20SKIMMER%20OPTION
thanks for this question amd answer
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Why is it forbidden to add a pure water into the coolant tank to dilute a mixture?
Tap water can only be used to make a new batch when the tank is empty.
If tap water is used for top up, the minerals that are added can build up, leading to high water hardness. This can ruin the coolant, cause rusting, and encourage bacterial growth.
Why isn’t my coolant going back into the coolant tank ¿what could be the reasons?
Coolant tank is clean also coolant does run threw the nozzle but just don’t go back
Could you, please, give us some names where we can get Simple D.I. System for small workshop?
Hi Alex Krivling - At the end of the Tools of Coolant video you’ll find search terms for the various items we discuss in the video. If you search on the term “Reverse osmosis deionization water filtration kit” you’ll find a number of filtration units that should meet your needs.
Here are links to a few examples:
www.bulkreefsupply.com/bulk-reverse-osmosis-filters-systems/reverse-osmosis-systems/standard-systems.html#
www.marinedepot.com/SpectraPure_MaxCap_RO_DI_System_w_Manual_Flush_90_to_180_Gallons_Per_Day_RO_DI_Water_Filter_Systems-SpectraPure-SP12291-FIRORDNH-vi.html
www.uswatersystems.com/systems/reverse-osmosis.html
Since most of the units are similar, we recommend reading the reviews and picking the unit that best matches your volume requirements. Hope this helps, and good luck Alex!
@@haasautomation Can this style of unit be used in-line (as in, without a DI water reservoir) to supply a Haas Coolant Refill System? I ask because the flow rates these these units advertise seem to be along the lines of "gallons per day" or "gallons per hour," not gallons per minute as I understand the Coolant Refill System requires.
I wish my company would get with the program as far a coolants are concerned. The crap we use is awful. When you get out of your car in the parking lot, you can smell it. When you go home at the end of the day, whoa! People avoid standing near you. It's basically animal fat and water. Add in some way lube, leaked hydraulic oil, excess grease, chips, dirt and let it sit in the summer heat for a weekend...it would gag a maggot. It is a great lubricant for cutting, but this is 2015. There are better options.
5:28 somebody forgot to check if the tank had any holes in it
why not get a lift to drain the tank, instead of buying a pump. a forklift could do that, rught?
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Nasty coolant is forcing me out of machine shops and has got me doctor visit sick more than once. I hate it. If it wasn't for that, I would enjoy machining. It is IMPOSSIBLE to find a machine shop in my area that is coolant responsible.
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This is why I always wear gloves.
jetpack5 i use a swils lahte wich uses oil as coolant its worse to work whit it gets everywhere but it wont rot