Strongly prefer the FFG version, so much so that I got rid of my Allplay copy despite the graphical improvements and extra variety. Going for the smallest box, but the largest components to the point where it won’t fit back into the box still baffles me.
thank you for this! I am not one who wants to spend a lot of time guessing at the optimal way to cram components into a box in order to avoid lid lift so this version is not for me. In fact, I just got over a similar experience on a different board game & after much exasperation & time I finally did stumble onto the right solution & resorted to snapping a pic of it all (which I printed out & stuck in the box for future reference).
I saw the production by Allplay at Dice Tower West back in March and couldn't stop shaking my head - and now it shakes again with your video: box crammed with unneeded expansions; replacing the iconic camels with hollow ones - a far cry from the originally promised wooden camels; weird scaling of the camel to board size; weirdly folder board with a misprinted - after how many previous editions?! While I'm happy the game is back in circulation, I think this edition clutters a previously elegant game. Sheesh! At DTW, we went to the library and checked out the FF version. Thank you and enjoy!
The wooden camels were an add-on that I didn't get. I like wooden stuff as much as the next old-school gamer, but plastic camels has always been the iconic look of TtD so I stuck with that. I actually can't complain too too much about the components, barring the misprinted board of course. But the box was *way* too small. I haven't decided which to keep for myself. I was pretty fine with my old FFG one. The only thing I strongly prefer in the new edition is the nice, big board.
My buddy got the wooden camels as an add-on. I can definitely say that switching back to the plastic ones were the right choice. It is really hard to decipher which caravan belongs to who, because you can only identify the leaders if you look from the sides. It shouldn’t be hard to play a game like this. Allplay charged so much for that add on as well. My poor buddy😢
@@BoardGems As I recall Allpplay's campaign (and there's some documented history on BGG), they originally previewed ONLY wooden camels. They looked more elaborate than the ones now available as an add-on. These were abandoned for the hollow plastic ones and I think the wooden add-ons were later added because of backer outcry (?). I think it's all reflective of rushed development, which is especially odd for a game that has existed for 25 years ... and existed quite fine. Thanks!
I got the new Allplay edition with the upgrades. I do like using the wooden camels, but the wooden leaders are almost unusable, so I use a mix of wooden camels and plastic leaders. I prefer the plastic oasis miniature to the wooden one as well. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm hoping that if I hole punch the baggies (or use larger baggies) that it will eliminate the lid lift.
The game comes with big baggies. And I always get as much air out as possible before sealing. Short of printing out the tuckboxes, or storing everything agonizingly neatly (like tiling the cardboard tiles at the bottom), I just don’t see no -lid-lift as something reasonably possible. Which to be clear might not matter to a lot of people! But it does to me. Using a mix of plastic and wooden camels would drive me nuts. 😄
For a brief moment I had a Z-man Edition and Allplay edition and I preferred the Z-man edition. The camels were much better ;). And the Allplay edition has a misprint on the board regarding the waterhole (one is missing).
according to Efka from No Pun Included you absolutely CAN fit everything back into the box without lid lift, if you know how to pack the game away properly
AllPlay provided tuckbox templates you can print out. After this video I took a long time to cut, fold and glue them. I have to CRAM them into the box, such that I’m not confident they will survive the pressure. But there is no lid lift then. Now tuckboxes don’t magically create extra space, so it’s possible, if you for example neatly line up all the tokens, or take the time to lay them flat tiled on the bottom. But bagged? Absolutely not, and it’s not even close.
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Strongly prefer the FFG version, so much so that I got rid of my Allplay copy despite the graphical improvements and extra variety. Going for the smallest box, but the largest components to the point where it won’t fit back into the box still baffles me.
thank you for this! I am not one who wants to spend a lot of time guessing at the optimal way to cram components into a box in order to avoid lid lift so this version is not for me. In fact, I just got over a similar experience on a different board game & after much exasperation & time I finally did stumble onto the right solution & resorted to snapping a pic of it all (which I printed out & stuck in the box for future reference).
I saw the production by Allplay at Dice Tower West back in March and couldn't stop shaking my head - and now it shakes again with your video: box crammed with unneeded expansions; replacing the iconic camels with hollow ones - a far cry from the originally promised wooden camels; weird scaling of the camel to board size; weirdly folder board with a misprinted - after how many previous editions?! While I'm happy the game is back in circulation, I think this edition clutters a previously elegant game. Sheesh! At DTW, we went to the library and checked out the FF version. Thank you and enjoy!
The wooden camels were an add-on that I didn't get. I like wooden stuff as much as the next old-school gamer, but plastic camels has always been the iconic look of TtD so I stuck with that.
I actually can't complain too too much about the components, barring the misprinted board of course. But the box was *way* too small.
I haven't decided which to keep for myself. I was pretty fine with my old FFG one. The only thing I strongly prefer in the new edition is the nice, big board.
My buddy got the wooden camels as an add-on. I can definitely say that switching back to the plastic ones were the right choice. It is really hard to decipher which caravan belongs to who, because you can only identify the leaders if you look from the sides. It shouldn’t be hard to play a game like this. Allplay charged so much for that add on as well. My poor buddy😢
@@BoardGems As I recall Allpplay's campaign (and there's some documented history on BGG), they originally previewed ONLY wooden camels. They looked more elaborate than the ones now available as an add-on. These were abandoned for the hollow plastic ones and I think the wooden add-ons were later added because of backer outcry (?). I think it's all reflective of rushed development, which is especially odd for a game that has existed for 25 years ... and existed quite fine. Thanks!
I got the new Allplay edition with the upgrades. I do like using the wooden camels, but the wooden leaders are almost unusable, so I use a mix of wooden camels and plastic leaders. I prefer the plastic oasis miniature to the wooden one as well. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm hoping that if I hole punch the baggies (or use larger baggies) that it will eliminate the lid lift.
The game comes with big baggies. And I always get as much air out as possible before sealing. Short of printing out the tuckboxes, or storing everything agonizingly neatly (like tiling the cardboard tiles at the bottom), I just don’t see no
-lid-lift as something reasonably possible.
Which to be clear might not matter to a lot of people! But it does to me.
Using a mix of plastic and wooden camels would drive me nuts. 😄
For a brief moment I had a Z-man Edition and Allplay edition and I preferred the Z-man edition. The camels were much better ;). And the Allplay edition has a misprint on the board regarding the waterhole (one is missing).
according to Efka from No Pun Included you absolutely CAN fit everything back into the box without lid lift, if you know how to pack the game away properly
You can, I packed everything (with the expansion) without a lid lift. The cards were not sleeved though.
AllPlay provided tuckbox templates you can print out. After this video I took a long time to cut, fold and glue them. I have to CRAM them into the box, such that I’m not confident they will survive the pressure. But there is no lid lift then.
Now tuckboxes don’t magically create extra space, so it’s possible, if you for example neatly line up all the tokens, or take the time to lay them flat tiled on the bottom. But bagged? Absolutely not, and it’s not even close.