Just wanted to say the quality of your work is some of the best I've seen in the backpacking community and I love seeing your videos. The detail involved in this video is a testament to that: the fact you've included details like the amount of gas consumed is brilliant, as most reviews don't factor that in-but efficiency for thru hikers is also a consideration to bear in mind!
Brilliant video, thanks for sharing this test. I was almost convinced that the Jetboil system was an expensive gimmick until I saw the gas consumption figures at the end. Virtually half the gas consumption, which as well as half the running cost, means half as much needed to carry, half the weight, half the space in back pack. Game changer!
The key to the jet boils is efficiency and at which point does that efficiency make it worth its extra weight as compared to say the BRS stove and a titanium cup. At which point can you get away with carrying one gas can instead of two because you do not have an option to re-supply. Or you can get away with Carrying a small gas can instead of a larger can. That always seems to be the deciding factor for me, Not boil time. As you can see from your experiment, efficiency really does stand out.
I’ve tested a sweet spot for the BRS. To boil 2 cups of water. Opening the stove right up consumed 13.2g of fuel. I just did 2 turns and consumed 10.4g.
I did a test with a meths burner and a cheap brs stove the other day and the difference is huge. Brilliant video prefer the pocket rocket but the gas saving with the jetboil would edge it for me. Thankyou
This was a very good comparison bro great job I’ve been on the fence between both of the two products you showed. Going to do some one and two night out in the woods. Obviously I want the best the lightest something efficient but what got me was the amount of gas used and that it was more quiet!
I respectfully suggest a rematch if the Stash pot can be safely held by the PR2...please swap the pots and go for it. I don't know what all you have in the MSR kit but for sure you had at least one extra bowl so the weight difference may wind up being quite negligible. great video!
Excellent video! I’ve owned both stoves. Now I only own the PR2. The Jetboil gets its edge from the pot with the heat exchanger coils. The PR2 is a better stove. Pair a PR2 with an Olicamp XTS pot and you’ve got a cracking little kit.
Cat got ya tongue? 😂🤣 Awesome idea letting the products do the talking! Nice to see the jetboil is still super efficient. If you wanna borrow my alu sol to do a comparison hit me up, i am at the PO most days🤙
pots is different, I tested stash, soto310 and xd-2, all with stash pot, found the stash stove just saved a little gas but much slower than 310 or xd2, especially in cold condition.
Is the fuel difference due to the structure of the jet boil pot? Was the fuel flow a function of throttle position or is the jet boil regulated to a lower flow?
I had the pocket rocket and the thing was so unstable! That pot slides off way too easily. After years of not wanting to spend on the Stash, I’ve bought the Stash, no more spilt boiling water in my tent!
Love that clever design with the canister clipping inside 👍 Now that’s thrown a spanner in the works 🤣🤣 - I was just about to buy the msr pocket rocket kit... and now you’ve piqued my interest with this one... so much lovely gear out there to buy, never enough cash 😂😂 Thanks Paul-really useful video 😊 Karen
The JetBoil instantly struck a chord with myself, and probably will with other military types, purely for the lack of rattle #tactical. As for the boil time to gas used, I'm sure we can all wait under thirty seconds for that amount of gas saving. Superb comparison and now makes me want to re-evaluate my hiking cook set-up again 😂 Great stuff mate 👍🏼
You can easily stop any rattling by keeping the stove in the little stuff sack it comes with. A little cleaning cloth or sponge in the pot also helps keep things quietly in place! I nest a backup lighter, scrubby, mini soap container, inside my 1L pot with the fuel canister and stove and have no issues with rattling or movement.
nice one great presentation & the fuel used was interesting.. still prefer my biofuel burners to these rowdy systems for wildcamping in places where stealth is more advantageous than a couple of minutes off boiling
This is exactly what I was wondering when I saw the product announcement. I've always considered jetboil to be just a smoke n mirrors gimmick product. Meanwhile I'm heating my water this morning with my trusty MSR pocketrocket. Also like I've seen many other hikers I noticed you did this experiment at full blast. I achieve a faster boil by only using about 60-70% power. This keeps the heat centered with less blow-by. The reason this happens is the metal really doesn't absorb the heat but transfers it to the liquid. The only thing I could see to speed up a boil would be to pressurize the pot. Hint hint @msr @jetboil
and the winner at 9.5 ozs using half the fuel....drum roll...The jetboil "Flash Lite" coming to a rolling boil at 2:15. Less than half the time. I don't know why Jetboil felt it necessary to join the lighter set up. It wastes fuel and I don't want to bring a second canister. Thanks for the side by side
Never hold a stove by the stem when you are threading it or unthreading it to the canister. If the seal of the can isn’t very good liquid fuel can shoot out the side and burn you pretty easy
The built-in handle of the stash is a better design. Also, the squatter ( less tall) & larger diameter pot of the stash is better. Overall, Stash is better designed.
Tested my new Stash tonight. Not worth the money. Plastic lid is thin and won’t snap on. The fuel base won’t snap on any size can. The flame is either off or fully on, no control. If you want a fast boil of water and nothing more, go for it, but I’m sticking with my pocket rocket and a nice titanium pot with a metal lid that has strainer holes.
3.18 on my jetboil flash. Cheap B and M gas. Did not measure weight. Transferred to 100 gram canister. When you weigh 235 lbs, grams don't matter lol 👍😂
Educational and i liked the delivery (no narrating style👍). I will stick to my $55AUD Amazon cooker with Piezo ingnition. I previously had an MSR burner and it was very lightweight and portable. If any of your viewers want to see some Yowie (Australian Bigfoot) evidence, check out my camping videos👣. I have heard reports of Bigfoot in the UK🤞.
Guy says no words but explains everything I needed to know. HUH
Just wanted to say the quality of your work is some of the best I've seen in the backpacking community and I love seeing your videos. The detail involved in this video is a testament to that: the fact you've included details like the amount of gas consumed is brilliant, as most reviews don't factor that in-but efficiency for thru hikers is also a consideration to bear in mind!
Brilliant video, thanks for sharing this test. I was almost convinced that the Jetboil system was an expensive gimmick until I saw the gas consumption figures at the end. Virtually half the gas consumption, which as well as half the running cost, means half as much needed to carry, half the weight, half the space in back pack. Game changer!
Loved this , everything explained without saying a word . Dude you look the double of Louis Tomlinson in this vid .
Haha ahh thanks dude!
first asmr stove "off" I've seen and very informative it was too
Thank you for not talking. One of the best reviews I’ve seen on TH-cam somehow
The jet boil seems to take a similar time to boil but seems a lot more efficient on the gas.
Best stove review I have seen , no yakking , just action and facts. Knew there was a good reason why i got the Pocket Rocket.
If there’s any amount of wind the Jetboil will smoke the MSR. The pot construction is the Jetboil secret sauce.
👌🏻 now we need wind test for both.
Great video mate, really well put together. Best, SO
The key to the jet boils is efficiency and at which point does that efficiency make it worth its extra weight as compared to say the BRS stove and a titanium cup. At which point can you get away with carrying one gas can instead of two because you do not have an option to re-supply. Or you can get away with Carrying a small gas can instead of a larger can. That always seems to be the deciding factor for me, Not boil time. As you can see from your experiment, efficiency really does stand out.
I’ve tested a sweet spot for the BRS. To boil 2 cups of water. Opening the stove right up consumed 13.2g of fuel.
I just did 2 turns and consumed 10.4g.
6 days or mor😊th-cam.com/video/s5_Z8D7p0O4/w-d-xo.html
What happens 1:32-1:36? open msr to full power and jetboil was full from the start?
I did a test with a meths burner and a cheap brs stove the other day and the difference is huge. Brilliant video prefer the pocket rocket but the gas saving with the jetboil would edge it for me.
Thankyou
This was a very good comparison bro great job I’ve been on the fence between both of the two products you showed. Going to do some one and two night out in the woods. Obviously I want the best the lightest something efficient but what got me was the amount of gas used and that it was more quiet!
I respectfully suggest a rematch if the Stash pot can be safely held by the PR2...please swap the pots and go for it. I don't know what all you have in the MSR kit but for sure you had at least one extra bowl so the weight difference may wind up being quite negligible. great video!
Excellent video! I’ve owned both stoves. Now I only own the PR2. The Jetboil gets its edge from the pot with the heat exchanger coils. The PR2 is a better stove. Pair a PR2 with an Olicamp XTS pot and you’ve got a cracking little kit.
Cat got ya tongue? 😂🤣 Awesome idea letting the products do the talking! Nice to see the jetboil is still super efficient. If you wanna borrow my alu sol to do a comparison hit me up, i am at the PO most days🤙
well done testing. thanks for doing it. Impressive that the time is almost the same but jetboil uses about 50% of gas.
This is an impressively conceived of and executed video. Bravo and thank you.
I would try a second test but swap the pots.
Loved the style of presentation. Jet boil for me.
Thanks Michael! Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah it’s a good stove for sure.
Great comparison. Think a homemade windscreen will be the perfect upgrade for the Stash stove
I love all my Msr stoves including my Windburner. Now do a wind test.
Perfect demonstration! Love it!
Excellent information, I am hoping Santa has one in his bag for me.
pots is different, I tested stash, soto310 and xd-2, all with stash pot, found the stash stove just saved a little gas but much slower than 310 or xd2, especially in cold condition.
Thanks Russ. The Jetboil seems very efficient.
Is the fuel difference due to the structure of the jet boil pot? Was the fuel flow a function of throttle position or is the jet boil regulated to a lower flow?
Cheers! Subscribed. Well done. I have a MSR Pocket Rocket 2. Would trade for the quietness, efficiency, less parts and lower weight of the JetBoil.
Thanks very much Al! Yeah it’s a really good investment.
I love how you do this silently. Its like an episode of Mr Bean.
First vid ive seen from you. Brilliant. Ive subscribed.
One of the few people that also gives gas used. Time only comparisons are pointless. Well done.
And what would the results have been if he'd kept the lids on? Something none of theses "tests" appear to do for some reason.
I had the pocket rocket and the thing was so unstable! That pot slides off way too easily. After years of not wanting to spend on the Stash, I’ve bought the Stash, no more spilt boiling water in my tent!
Have you tried the msr pot on the jetboil burner?
Definitely need to give that a go!
Cant help but think the msr windburner would be better than both, hopefully you can get out soon and properly test it in the elements.
Windburner isn't ultralight nor as compact though.
Great video!
How fucking good was video guys!!! haha no need to talk.
Perfection.
Well done good sir and thank you for your effort making this boss video.
Appreciate the video! Have you tested this multiple times? I’d be curious to see if the results are consistent. Thanks!
Love that clever design with the canister clipping inside 👍 Now that’s thrown a spanner in the works 🤣🤣 - I was just about to buy the msr pocket rocket kit... and now you’ve piqued my interest with this one... so much lovely gear out there to buy, never enough cash 😂😂 Thanks Paul-really useful video 😊 Karen
love that too, clever thinking from Jetboil
@@Benjamin-Outdoors I went for the Msr pocket rocket. And I have to say-I’ve loved it! 😃
Because I’m a curious guy, what’s the heating time of the Jet Boil with the MSR PR2? I’ll bet it much faster.
The JetBoil instantly struck a chord with myself, and probably will with other military types, purely for the lack of rattle #tactical.
As for the boil time to gas used, I'm sure we can all wait under thirty seconds for that amount of gas saving.
Superb comparison and now makes me want to re-evaluate my hiking cook set-up again 😂
Great stuff mate 👍🏼
You can easily stop any rattling by keeping the stove in the little stuff sack it comes with. A little cleaning cloth or sponge in the pot also helps keep things quietly in place! I nest a backup lighter, scrubby, mini soap container, inside my 1L pot with the fuel canister and stove and have no issues with rattling or movement.
Great video. Thank you
nice one great presentation & the fuel used was interesting.. still prefer my biofuel burners to these rowdy systems for wildcamping in places where stealth is more advantageous than a couple of minutes off boiling
Great test.. 👍
This was beautiful.
I can't see a MSR kit at the price you are quoting, where did you get it from? Great video, thank you.
This is exactly what I was wondering when I saw the product announcement. I've always considered jetboil to be just a smoke n mirrors gimmick product. Meanwhile I'm heating my water this morning with my trusty MSR pocketrocket. Also like I've seen many other hikers I noticed you did this experiment at full blast. I achieve a faster boil by only using about 60-70% power. This keeps the heat centered with less blow-by. The reason this happens is the metal really doesn't absorb the heat but transfers it to the liquid. The only thing I could see to speed up a boil would be to pressurize the pot. Hint hint @msr @jetboil
Same ive had more success at half gas ....
Great video! Thank you. 😊
Less talk, bad music, and more demonstration. Great 👍 video
Do both on same pots
Stove ASMR!
Loved this
Awesome
Interesting not talking about the products, but instead just using them. Helps us focus on little things between the 2 set ups.
No cup in the stash. Nice stand nice lid but what do I drink my coffee out of :)
i think you can drink with the stash lid, there is a small "mouth piece" to not get burned
First Jetboil I am interested in...
Say no more Russ, say no more!😀👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
and the winner at 9.5 ozs using half the fuel....drum roll...The jetboil "Flash Lite" coming to a rolling boil at 2:15. Less than half the time.
I don't know why Jetboil felt it necessary to join the lighter set up. It wastes fuel and I don't want to bring a second canister.
Thanks for the side by side
Very good.
i cant stop staring at your Barney suit
I hear ya 👍
Never hold a stove by the stem when you are threading it or unthreading it to the canister. If the seal of the can isn’t very good liquid fuel can shoot out the side and burn you pretty easy
The built-in handle of the stash is a better design. Also, the squatter ( less tall) & larger diameter pot of the stash is better. Overall, Stash is better designed.
Faster, but twice the gas??? WOW
And what would the results have been if he'd kept the lids on? Something none of theses "tests" appear to do for some reason.
Video was great, until I saw the Clipper lighter, then it was perfect
Tested my new Stash tonight. Not worth the money. Plastic lid is thin and won’t snap on. The fuel base won’t snap on any size can. The flame is either off or fully on, no control. If you want a fast boil of water and nothing more, go for it, but I’m sticking with my pocket rocket and a nice titanium pot with a metal lid that has strainer holes.
3.18 on my jetboil flash. Cheap B and M gas. Did not measure weight. Transferred to 100 gram canister. When you weigh 235 lbs, grams don't matter lol 👍😂
great stuff! would be great to see wind test vs msr reactor 1l
Jetboil for the win? Lighter and more efficient. Carry half the gas for 30sec extra boil time. Nice opinion free video. Just the facts.
Like Billy Crystal said... "Mime is money"
Educational and i liked the delivery (no narrating style👍). I will stick to my $55AUD Amazon cooker with Piezo ingnition. I previously had an MSR burner and it was very lightweight and portable. If any of your viewers want to see some Yowie (Australian Bigfoot) evidence, check out my camping videos👣. I have heard reports of Bigfoot in the UK🤞.
Is The Trail Runner really Louis Tomlinson in disguise?
The MSR is noisier compared to the Jetboil 🙉 and I could not here you speaking 😂
Could you have worn a louder jacket
So jet boil, half the fuel usage. 30 seconds longer to boil... Gotcha. fuel usage it is...
kinda creepy. very informative
Mr Bean had spoken, or not.
Jet boils is a joke.. Claim to be faster.
well this is boring no talking at all