No it’s a sequel, they literally say that multiple times in the show? Did you even watch it? how can peacemaker have flashbacks to something that happened before he’s even done it? The series is set 5 months after the events of suicide squad 2, and it tells you this multiple times throughout.
@@carbinecryo30716 He's still a psycho government hitman working a program where people are coerced into doing illegal activity by putting bombs in their head. He isn't moral in the slightest. Ratcatcher II is the moral center. I don't know how you could miss that.
@dannytallmage2409 I'm sorry what part of his deal in the movie is the betrayal He wasn't even given all the details Once he found out the details he wanted justice for the fucked up things the government did The government is pretty unanimously not the good guys
This was the movie that made me look at John Cena as a great actor. That face he gives when he has to kill Rick Flag who was establish is someone he respects and is one of the catalysts that would lead to his growth in his show.
@@ultrixsoma2736 Cena is in touch with his emotions way more because of how his character is in wrestling. Dwayne is always all about comedy or looking badass like his character in wrestling.
I like how the two are wearing bright colored shirts like cartoon characters, but the fight itself is brutal and gritty. Intentional on Gunn's part, I'm certain.
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 I think it serves as a nice bit of genre-busting - The movie started out as a war movie parody, before taking a turn into a kaiju movie near the end. It also served to fulfill the heroes' arcs, particularly Bloodsport's.
@@RFN22 I was highlighting the contrast between the characters' appearances and the violence. Had they went with a wardrobe akin to the first movie, it wouldn't feel as impactful.
Joel Kinnaman said that this scene really hurt because his character got bested by someone with a suit on that looks like he’s been hired for a child’s birthday party. 😂
I like how they made a Mortal Kombat-esque shot showing Rick Flag's heart being pierced just to make absolutely sure we knew that yes, they're not fucking around, he's for real dead.
As much as I loved the rivalry between Peacemaker and Bloodsport, this fight was the highlight of the movie. A battle of philosophy that neither man was willing to compromise that could only result in a fight to the death.
It wasn’t really philosophical on any front. Rick is outraged at the way he has unknowingly been working with people who tortured children, and John hasn't yet gone through the self-reflection he does in the Peacemaker show, so he's solely focused on completing whatever dubious mission he is given.
Cena doesn't take himself seriously, thats what makes him a great actor, The Rock is a little bit narcissistic all his characters have to be pure badasses.
What's funny is that if you remember The Rock and several other wrestlers appeared on an episode of SNL back in the late 90's or maybe even 2000? and The Rock was the stand out among them for displaying comedic timing and charisma and a willingness to do stuff for the bit and not taking himself too series. Fast forward 20+ years and yeah, like you said, he's pretty much the same character in everything now, and Cena and Batista do more actual acting than he does. Like, what happened?
because, as the others above have said, Cena isn’t taking himself as seriously. Cena is fine being the bad guy in a film, Cena doesn’t need to have all his characters be the badass good guy hero that do the eyebrow raise and win every film. Cena isn’t just playing himself or playing the exact same character every film like the Rock is. The Rock can hardly act whereas Cena actually has a wide range in comparison.
That's not really saying much considering DC films generally suck. I like DC comic's but man, WB/DC Studios royally suck at making movies based off them.
@@nikushim6665funny enough films like the dark knight trilogy, Joker And Even The Batman At Times which are films that are more based on other films are better for DC than the comic book based ones
this is why having James Gunn as ceo of dc will be insane because him having no plot armor for any character is great and you never know what your gonna expect
One thing to note is that Peacemaker is primarily wearing primary colours (Red, Blue, and Yellow) that often were associated with Good guys while the secondary colours (Green, Purple and Orange) were associated with bad guys so its nice to see a villain wearing colours that would associate him with good guys.
this a death scene done right. the consequences of flags death are traumatizing and carry over into the peacemaker show. i’m so sick of modern comic book movies playing it safe, like the new ant-man movie. the suicide squad was awesome because it didnt care who died, if it enhanced the plot, they went with it.
Reminds me of last stand Logan was still haunted in The Wolverine (2013) when he killed Jean grey…her death brought Logan a lot of impact. Mcu is getting shitty now, look at Thor for example, he lost a lot of people and in the next film he seems fine… Waititi did him dirty
Exactly. I was pretty fuckin pissed off that Captain Boomerang died so early on but as the movie went on along with the many times I rewatched it but I realized that the beach massacre + Boomerang’s death is what set the tone for the whole movie. During this fight scene, I genuinely did not know who was going to win because Peacemaker was kicking Flag’s ass and I let my guard down assuming everything was going to be okay once I saw Rick Flag get the upper hand.
What is safe about the new Ant-Man movie? It's morally ambiguous, recast a character, and is tonally different than the last two very successful Ant-Man movies.
I love every part of this scene, from the fight choreography too the inner turmoil PM had with killing a man he admired. Finally, ricks line about peacemakers name being a joke. It’s really fleshed out more in the peacemaker show but honestly it was really well done.
@@I-speak-U-shut-itnot really a movie. But the walking dead is a good example. I won't say more because so I don't spoil anything in case you haven't watched it
What’s crazy is that Flag was the hero and Peacemaker was the villain but when Flag started to get the upper hand with the pipe, you saw the evil side of Rick Flag for once. It makes it even worse when Peacemaker actually feels bad for killing him right afterwards
It's incredible that Rick Flag goes from one of the blandest characters in the history of cinema in Suicide Squad, to getting fleshed out as a character and receiving one of the most heartbreaking deaths in The Suicide Squad, fighting against essentially a dark version of himself; someone who always follows orders no matter what, while Flag held on to just enough of his morals to die a hero.
@@yhz2K harley has 2 iterations from suicide squad and THE suicide squad so technically it can have a timeline reset from the flash which potentially restart all the characters stories
It also feels like the most grounded fight scene of the movie. It's much slower paced and is mostly just two big men throwing each other around while using random garbage to maximize the hits. Especially if you consider the brief moment Rick Flag takes to keep his stance after cosplaying a basketball
It’s impressive how genuinely menacing Cena is in this sequence. You knew he was dangerous before, but the way he so easily flips and goes after Flag and Cleo with every intention of killing them really seals it in your mind.
You can tell James Gunn is good at what he does because he made me shed a tear when Rick Flag of all people got killed. A character (in this universe) no one gave a shit about from a movie no one liked and he managed to make me care about him. Insane.
Fun fact: Rick Flag would be the posthumous overarching protagonist of the TV series Peacemaker, because thanks to him the story of that series was created, the death of Rick Flag definitely has a great impact on Peacemaker. Give like to this comment if you’re agree.
@@extremetoast5723 What is really an overarching protagonist and an overarching antagonist? What I have understood about that is that overarching protagonist creates what happen to the main protagonist, and that overarching antagonist creates the conflict in the story, is the main reason why the main antagonist creates the plot, or the main reason why this villain is behind the plot.
Rick was choking Peacemaker with the tube with the objetive to kill him, he practically killed Flag for survive. If he hadn't, he would have died instead of Rick In a situation like this, it's almost justified to kill, because everyone wants to live
@@danielhatake3317Rick flag had to kill peacemaker because he knows now that the mission has been compromised by the team, peacemaker was willing to kill all the squad members according to his philosophy.
Rick Flag was such a bland nothing burger character in the first movie. Cannot believe this is the same dude. I loved him in this movie and Joel Kinnaman was given SO much better material.
If only Katana were here, she always had his back. She could have cut Peacemaker in half with one sword stroke just like mowing the lawn. It would be inadvisable to get killed by her, her sword traps the souls of its victims.
Man, this fight was awesome. That helmet shot of the fight is amazing, and the fight itself is so raw and brutal. Shame about Flag dying, but at least it forwards the plot and affects Peacemaker psychologically later in his own show. On an unrelated note, Thinker's death is my favorite gore death in the entire movie! Thinker isn't a character I particularly care about, but man, that death is brutal and amazing!
The grittiness of the fight reminds me of the final fight between Spiderman and the Goblin in Spiderman 1 and the fight between The Russian and the Punisher in its 2004 movie, I was disappointed by the kaiju climax in comparison
havent seen this since it first came out and noticing peacemakers face when he realizes he's killed Rick Flag it tracks better as I thght he was more villainous in this scene but actually seems to hate what he's done in the moment which further justifies his solo show IMO
no it was slept on cus it released during August 2021 (covid was still somewhat big) and went straight to HBO max on release day. it should've been in theaters for atleast 1 month before going to HBO max, would've made more money
@@ImQuirkless This movie and all of WB movies from late 2020 to entire 2021 were released on HBO Max and theatres the same day. This was done by AT&T when they were the owner at that time.
I wish they didn’t kill Rick Flag. He was one of the most honorable and heroic one of the team. He wanted to do the right thing but Waller forced him to follow orders he knew were wrong and he ended up getting killed for his good intentions. Hopefully, he’ll be alive much longer in the new DCEU by James Gunn.
He's not, and I think it's a good thing because it's such an important moment in peacemakers character, he thought of Flag as a hero and looked up to him yet he was the one who had to kill him for what he believed was the greater good but deep down he knows Rick was also right in what he did, he was just trying to people the same as himself but through opposing means Also apparently peacemaker season 2's main antagonist will be Rick flag Sr who is his father and is trying to get revenge for peacemaker killing his son
Serves you right Thinker and Peacemaker, he may become a antihero in the show later on but in this movie Peacemaker is undoubtedly an evil supervillain
not a supervillain, a stooge, much more realistic, and with nothing to respect or admire even in a villainous way, like say, with Luthor, who is so over the top and "on his own" you have to admire how much he's willing to commit to his vision, but Peacemaker is just a soulless soldier in this.
This movie is so well shot, like damn. Obviously the helmet reflection fight rules, but the moment when ratcatcher sees peacemaker kill flag, at first, peacemaker is shown normally, and ratcatcher is from behind this fence like she's in a cage. But then when she grabs the goober, giving her the upper hand, she is shown normally, and peacemaker is trapped. So good!
I just love that Rick's death made him reconsider his “for peace i can kill men, women and children for peace" thing like in peacemaker he was ordered to kill the family who are a global threat to the world but he didn't he hesitated hands shaking first time not able to press the triger
Hate it when angles and moves don’t match in the choreography. When he hits him with the pipe it cuts to a completely different direction than when he started the attack.
Both Peacemaker and Amanda Waller were jerks in this movie. They both decided to kill Rick Flag for no reason. And Flag was right about Peacemaker: Peacemaker what a joke. First Boomerang and now Rick Flag
John Cena in real life has lifted over 750 pounds up over his head. Assuming a skinny guy like Flag only weighs like 160 pounds and assuming Cena is enraged its totally believable that he could toss him around like that.
I'm still impressed they managed to turn Rick Flag from a character I could not give any less of a shit about in Suicide Squad (2016) into someone I was actually upset to see die.
Don't know if I'm overanalyzing, but I feel like the close up shot of Flag's heart being stabbed is meant to parallel the death of Enchantress, whose heart also had to be destroyed, and by him.
That wound doesn't even make sense? How did it go through his ribs? There wasn't enough force behind the blow and the shard wasn't small enough to slip between the gap.
I really like how Rick Flag’s words still stuck with Peacemaker in his own show
No it’s a sequel, they literally say that multiple times in the show? Did you even watch it? how can peacemaker have flashbacks to something that happened before he’s even done it? The series is set 5 months after the events of suicide squad 2, and it tells you this multiple times throughout.
@@ignboppertinare u an idiot
@bop it's a sequel buddy, it's after the suicide Squad. You clearly didn't watch it
@@ignboppertinwow... way to make yourself look like a complete retard
Let's fuck Elizabeth scarlet witch
“Peacemaker…what a joke.”
Such a great line.
He won that fight twice even though he died, basically.
It played into the show too
@@brandongainer9434 ya this movie really made me actually like Rick Flagg instead of him just being generic army man like in the first one
@@TheMonkeygoneape He's a hypocrite and he's in the wrong here.
Becomes even better when you realize Alan Moore originally intended for The Comedian to be Peacemaker in Watchmen
I love that they made Rick Flag kind of the grounded Moral center of the team and then broke our hearts by killing him like this.
He's one of the least moral members of the suicide squad.
@@alphanerd7221Of the original shit movie maybe
In this movie he's definetly the moral center
@@carbinecryo30716 He's still a psycho government hitman working a program where people are coerced into doing illegal activity by putting bombs in their head. He isn't moral in the slightest. Ratcatcher II is the moral center. I don't know how you could miss that.
@dannytallmage2409 I'm sorry what part of his deal in the movie is the betrayal
He wasn't even given all the details
Once he found out the details he wanted justice for the fucked up things the government did
The government is pretty unanimously not the good guys
@dannytallmage2409 Well fuck me I guess experimenting on children is totally okay now whoops.
I hated that they finally did Rick Flag right...and then killed my boy like that.
No one kills Rick Flag; he’s the guy that humanizes the Squad
I hate that Rick died but i feel like he went out as a hero and it was a great sendoff to him
Same with captain boomerang
@@Periit8644 no the fuck it wasn't for boomerang, too early for an og to die as a decoy 😞
@@anthonyalvarez2037 I mean that he was one character who was good who died
This was the movie that made me look at John Cena as a great actor. That face he gives when he has to kill Rick Flag who was establish is someone he respects and is one of the catalysts that would lead to his growth in his show.
Cena and Batista are incredible actors from the wrestling background, love those guys
I legit think Cena is way better than the Rock in acting. The guy is much more emotional and doesn't need to act tough all the time to look badass.
@@ultrixsoma2736 Cena is in touch with his emotions way more because of how his character is in wrestling. Dwayne is always all about comedy or looking badass like his character in wrestling.
OH right, I almost forgot the actor is actual John China.
That look he gives Bloodsport when he catches him about to shoot Ratcatcher…..
I like how the two are wearing bright colored shirts like cartoon characters, but the fight itself is brutal and gritty. Intentional on Gunn's part, I'm certain.
This part where Peacmaker is revealed to be a Bad Guy is the real payoff of the movie. The giant monster is just boring after this
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 I think it serves as a nice bit of genre-busting - The movie started out as a war movie parody, before taking a turn into a kaiju movie near the end. It also served to fulfill the heroes' arcs, particularly Bloodsport's.
@@RFN22 I was highlighting the contrast between the characters' appearances and the violence. Had they went with a wardrobe akin to the first movie, it wouldn't feel as impactful.
@@peterfrank3365 oh that makes more sense
Yeah hun stick pretty close to the comics with these 2
Joel Kinnaman said that this scene really hurt because his character got bested by someone with a suit on that looks like he’s been hired for a child’s birthday party. 😂
Funny considering the fact He’s wearing a shirt with a cartoon rabbit or bunny on it LOL 🤣
And his basically did nothing for the entire film and achieved nothing pretty much
It’s not a suit, it’s a uniform!
@@wolfzeru5745 sorry! Goshhh! 😂
The way he struggles to say the last bit, "Because I'm thorough" was perfect acting
His lips quivering was an excellent touch as well
He really didn't want to kill her
@@andreimaxwell4455Shit, he didn't want to kill Flag either.
James Gunn himself said 3:49 - 3:55 was the exact moment that inspired him to write the series!!!
0:38 Love the stylistic choice of having the fight be shown on the Helmet.
Could be some symbolism that this fight/Flags death will stay in Peacemakers head for a while
Nightmare to film
@@camnunes8847 wow, nice observation
@@camnunes8847woah
@@camnunes8847it makes sense since In the comics he’s considered a schizophrenic and claims to hear voices whenever he wears his helmet.
I like how they made a Mortal Kombat-esque shot showing Rick Flag's heart being pierced just to make absolutely sure we knew that yes, they're not fucking around, he's for real dead.
As much as I loved the rivalry between Peacemaker and Bloodsport, this fight was the highlight of the movie. A battle of philosophy that neither man was willing to compromise that could only result in a fight to the death.
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It wasn’t really philosophical on any front. Rick is outraged at the way he has unknowingly been working with people who tortured children, and John hasn't yet gone through the self-reflection he does in the Peacemaker show, so he's solely focused on completing whatever dubious mission he is given.
@@BarnghostJohn understands that if the tape got out to the public there’d be mass riots
Out of James Gunn’s entire directing career, this might be my favourite scene of his.
Huge w probs my fav cbm tied for it
Gunn was an absolute beast in this scene
This might be a hot take, but this is actually James Gunn’s best CBM IMO.
@@iambuhlockay8007 screw it, I agree!
Damn man, compared to "The Rock", Cena's got great acting range! Loved this guy in this movie and in his show!
Cena doesn't take himself seriously, thats what makes him a great actor, The Rock is a little bit narcissistic all his characters have to be pure badasses.
That's cuz the Rock doesn't want to hurt his "good guy" image. It's in his contract that he cannot be the villain anymore
john cena and batista are better actor than the rock.
What's funny is that if you remember The Rock and several other wrestlers appeared on an episode of SNL back in the late 90's or maybe even 2000? and The Rock was the stand out among them for displaying comedic timing and charisma and a willingness to do stuff for the bit and not taking himself too series. Fast forward 20+ years and yeah, like you said, he's pretty much the same character in everything now, and Cena and Batista do more actual acting than he does. Like, what happened?
because, as the others above have said, Cena isn’t taking himself as seriously. Cena is fine being the bad guy in a film, Cena doesn’t need to have all his characters be the badass good guy hero that do the eyebrow raise and win every film. Cena isn’t just playing himself or playing the exact same character every film like the Rock is. The Rock can hardly act whereas Cena actually has a wide range in comparison.
Easily a top 3 DCEU film of the last decade for me personally. Loved the energy, the vibe, the characters. Miles ahead of the first Suicide Squad.
Best DC movie this century.
That's not really saying much considering DC films generally suck. I like DC comic's but man, WB/DC Studios royally suck at making movies based off them.
@@nikushim6665funny enough films like the dark knight trilogy, Joker And Even The Batman At Times which are films that are more based on other films are better for DC than the comic book based ones
The 2 movies aren’t even comparable to one another lol
@@nikushim6665 DC movies were pretty good in the 80's.
This sequel really improved on the 2016 version in nearly every way. Flag was a major improvement in particular.
It's a reboot
@@richardshiflett5181 It's a sequel. It refers to the last movie. The entire opening is resolving things from the last movie. The cast is the same.
@@alphanerd7221soft reboot
@@snakeplisken6242 No such thing.
It's what happens when WB execs stays out of the filmmaking process
this is why having James Gunn as ceo of dc will be insane because him having no plot armor for any character is great and you never know what your gonna expect
Did you watch the opening scene? What do you mean no plot armor
bro killed off almost every character shown in the teaser
right why is harley quinn still alive
@@trumpdonald3122cause she's Harley quinn
The look peacemaker made on his face he felt bad that he killed Rick Flag and it’s gonna haunt him forever.
Nah, that's called hypocrisy
Looks like a fight between ketchup and mustard.
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😂😂😂😂
That’s deadpool and wolverine
One thing to note is that Peacemaker is primarily wearing primary colours (Red, Blue, and Yellow) that often were associated with Good guys while the secondary colours (Green, Purple and Orange) were associated with bad guys so its nice to see a villain wearing colours that would associate him with good guys.
2:17 the Mortal Kombat shot of the heart here is glorious
Skarlet fatality.
YAY he’s there now
Makes it look like a comic
@@EpicDestr0yerIf you make a movie where a lot of the shots look like they could be printed in a comic book, you’ve done your job well.
this a death scene done right. the consequences of flags death are traumatizing and carry over into the peacemaker show. i’m so sick of modern comic book movies playing it safe, like the new ant-man movie. the suicide squad was awesome because it didnt care who died, if it enhanced the plot, they went with it.
Preach
That's why I prefer DC and when we had X men consequences >>>>> milking every character
Reminds me of last stand
Logan was still haunted in The Wolverine (2013) when he killed Jean grey…her death brought Logan a lot of impact.
Mcu is getting shitty now, look at Thor for example, he lost a lot of people and in the next film he seems fine…
Waititi did him dirty
Exactly. I was pretty fuckin pissed off that Captain Boomerang died so early on but as the movie went on along with the many times I rewatched it but I realized that the beach massacre + Boomerang’s death is what set the tone for the whole movie. During this fight scene, I genuinely did not know who was going to win because Peacemaker was kicking Flag’s ass and I let my guard down assuming everything was going to be okay once I saw Rick Flag get the upper hand.
What is safe about the new Ant-Man movie? It's morally ambiguous, recast a character, and is tonally different than the last two very successful Ant-Man movies.
Damn man Flag is like the only dc movie character of the past 10 years I actually wanted more of
hopefully he's in the waller tv show
Marry him
@@THEREALGATES how? He’s dead…
@@BruceTopherWayneits dc nobody stays dead forever
@@cade.s exactly. Batman said so
Himself, that toy animated
I love every part of this scene, from the fight choreography too the inner turmoil PM had with killing a man he admired. Finally, ricks line about peacemakers name being a joke. It’s really fleshed out more in the peacemaker show but honestly it was really well done.
I still remember the whole theater audibly gasping at this scene.
Flag died, but he won that fight.
With 4 words, he did more damage than the entire fight before hand.
And he literally won. Flag was stabbed before the fight but still managed to win. Peacemaker got lucky with the broken glass.
At this point I hated Peacemaker but then I watched the show and started loving him again 🤣
He felt bad for killing Rick😢
He felt bad at leadt
@@bigbionk Rick was asking for it.
@@alphanerd7221fr
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Exactly.
Dude was gonna hold the US accountable for their bullshit, we can't have that.
That inner cam heart stab is something of nightmares. Crap! Gives me goosebumps. Freakin awesome directing and choreography and cinematography.
It gave me Mortal Kombat vibes too. But yeah. That cam heart shot scared the f outta me when I 1st saw it LOL
Reminded me of "a thousand ways to die" where a guy asked his wife to punch his stomach to makehim burp
only james gunn can make you hate a character in one movie but then forgive them in their own spin-off
Not really
@@victor2641 Name one. Prove it
@@I-speak-U-shut-it talking about how he assume everyone forgiven peacemaker
@@I-speak-U-shut-itnot really a movie.
But the walking dead is a good example.
I won't say more because so I don't spoil anything in case you haven't watched it
The cameraman actually went inside of rick flag just to film his heart getting pierced
He put his Spielberg work to the test XD
😂😂😂😂
What’s crazy is that Flag was the hero and Peacemaker was the villain but when Flag started to get the upper hand with the pipe, you saw the evil side of Rick Flag for once. It makes it even worse when Peacemaker actually feels bad for killing him right afterwards
What was evil about that? Flag knew that Peacemaker won't stop, the only way to stop him was to kill him
I would show an evil side too if you just tried to kill me to cover up unethical experimentation. He isn't being evil, he is furious.
@alfredm.hitchcock8189 and rightfully so. Anyone with a conscience would be PISSED
Trying to kill the person that tries to kill you it’s self defense
The truly evil move would have been to keep the reach advantage and just bash his head in on the floor.
It's incredible that Rick Flag goes from one of the blandest characters in the history of cinema in Suicide Squad, to getting fleshed out as a character and receiving one of the most heartbreaking deaths in The Suicide Squad, fighting against essentially a dark version of himself; someone who always follows orders no matter what, while Flag held on to just enough of his morals to die a hero.
Rick Flag actually acts more like his comic book self in this. He doesn’t just blindly follow orders if they’re evil
Now that The Flash will be a Reboot of everything, who knows, Rick Flag might return
I hope so
Highly unlikely
It won't reboot everything
Suicide Squad is still relevant
In fact it will direct connect to Amanda Waller Series
Which is part of new DCU
@@yhz2K harley has 2 iterations from suicide squad and THE suicide squad so technically it can have a timeline reset from the flash which potentially restart all the characters stories
@@ScenarioTwins so…Flag still dies? 😭
The scene that made me respect Cena as an actor.
I’m back here cause Of creature commandos
same
I have never watched wrestling and only know John Cena from the China memes but I genuinely think his acting was fantastic in this movie.
Dude killed everything he’s done legit actor conquered wrestling even had a hit rap album
but where's John Cena? Can't see him
@@saratoga4126 sorry if this is rude of me to ask but is this sarcasm?
@@hanin70it's an old internet joke where everyone pretends John Cena is invisible
2:10 honestly I was surprised this wasn’t part of a fatality or fatal blow in MK1.
Fight between Peacemaker and Flag is a hell of awesome fight scene. How they both can really put up a fight.
It also feels like the most grounded fight scene of the movie. It's much slower paced and is mostly just two big men throwing each other around while using random garbage to maximize the hits. Especially if you consider the brief moment Rick Flag takes to keep his stance after cosplaying a basketball
Who’s there since the announcement that Rick Flag Senior is going after Peacemaker for Season 2?
First he's gonna be in Creatures Commando and then in peacemaker 2
@@ivan37816 will frank grillo play him in the live action?
@@ArturoRivera2004 yes
@@ivan37816 Cool
@@ivan37816he will be in superman too
It’s impressive how genuinely menacing Cena is in this sequence. You knew he was dangerous before, but the way he so easily flips and goes after Flag and Cleo with every intention of killing them really seals it in your mind.
You can tell James Gunn is good at what he does because he made me shed a tear when Rick Flag of all people got killed.
A character (in this universe) no one gave a shit about from a movie no one liked and he managed to make me care about him. Insane.
0:38 the fight being reflected on the helmet is so f-ing cool
“Peacemaker. What a joke.”
- Rick Flag
RIP Rick Flag 😢
Dumbest way for Peacemaker to kill a leader and member of task force: Suicide Squad
Fun fact: Rick Flag would be the posthumous overarching protagonist of the TV series Peacemaker, because thanks to him the story of that series was created, the death of Rick Flag definitely has a great impact on Peacemaker. Give like to this comment if you’re agree.
@@pablojosemoralesidrovo9636 I don't think you know what a 'posthumous overarching protagonist' is
@@extremetoast5723 What is really an overarching protagonist and an overarching antagonist? What I have understood about that is that overarching protagonist creates what happen to the main protagonist, and that overarching antagonist creates the conflict in the story, is the main reason why the main antagonist creates the plot, or the main reason why this villain is behind the plot.
Rick was choking Peacemaker with the tube with the objetive to kill him, he practically killed Flag for survive. If he hadn't, he would have died instead of Rick
In a situation like this, it's almost justified to kill, because everyone wants to live
@@danielhatake3317Rick flag had to kill peacemaker because he knows now that the mission has been compromised by the team, peacemaker was willing to kill all the squad members according to his philosophy.
this movie did the impossible, it makes Katana looks like an actually important character without her in the movie
lol
How?
@@willowshake023 she wasn't there to have his back
Rick Flag was such a bland nothing burger character in the first movie. Cannot believe this is the same dude. I loved him in this movie and Joel Kinnaman was given SO much better material.
You have James Gunn to thank for that. The same guy who fans believe is ruining Superman. Smh
1:02 he tossed the shit out of Rick 💀
Bro I said the same lmfao
I said Dayum what are u on the bane serum
Honesty I'm surprised Flag did as good as he did against Peacemaker who is very nearly superhuman
Rick Flag Sr. better spin back for his son.
Rick Flag's last words hit so hard..
Likely a turning point for Peace Maker, making him self reflect on a different level
What would have happened if Peacemaker and Rick Flag were on the same side and understood each other's point of view?
Waller would probably kill Rick flag… he already knew too much
Thanos and Avengers are on same side 😀😀
They will form another universe apart from MCU and DC
Peacemaker would defend and apologize for the communist chinese government... oh wait.
@Jose Galindo that begs the question does he have a head bomb or does Waller gotta get someone else to do the dirty work
Who's coming back here after Creature Commandos? I am.
Peacemaker will get what's coming to him...
Waller too probably, since he killed Flag for her, and Flag Sr. doesn’t know that yet.
If only Katana were here, she always had his back. She could have cut Peacemaker in half with one sword stroke just like mowing the lawn. It would be inadvisable to get killed by her, her sword traps the souls of its victims.
I'm here because i watched creature commandos
Man, this fight was awesome. That helmet shot of the fight is amazing, and the fight itself is so raw and brutal. Shame about Flag dying, but at least it forwards the plot and affects Peacemaker psychologically later in his own show.
On an unrelated note, Thinker's death is my favorite gore death in the entire movie! Thinker isn't a character I particularly care about, but man, that death is brutal and amazing!
The grittiness of the fight reminds me of the final fight between Spiderman and the Goblin in Spiderman 1 and the fight between The Russian and the Punisher in its 2004 movie, I was disappointed by the kaiju climax in comparison
I guess Katana didn’t have his back after all..
she did not unfortunately
To hell with his back what about his heart?
@@I-speak-U-shut-it lol that’s 2 L’s now taken by Flagg
I thought Rick Flag was leading role， can't accept he just died like that
Damn Flag is so much more likeable here than in 2016
havent seen this since it first came out and noticing peacemakers face when he realizes he's killed Rick Flag it tracks better as I thght he was more villainous in this scene but actually seems to hate what he's done in the moment which further justifies his solo show IMO
It's interesting to look back at this after Peacemaker's show and see how haunted he was by it.
I know he could have stabbed Peacemaker with the knife he pulled out of himself at the beginning, but damn was this a great scene.
peacemakers power makes him too overpowered
like how did rick flag even stand a chance to fight an invisible guy
Such a slept on movie and scene because it wasn’t MARVEL. Such a same. Fantastic scene.
no it was slept on cus it released during August 2021 (covid was still somewhat big) and went straight to HBO max on release day. it should've been in theaters for atleast 1 month before going to HBO max, would've made more money
@@ImQuirkless It was also a sequel to a mediocre movie.
@@ImQuirkless This movie and all of WB movies from late 2020 to entire 2021 were released on HBO Max and theatres the same day. This was done by AT&T when they were the owner at that time.
I wish they didn’t kill Rick Flag. He was one of the most honorable and heroic one of the team. He wanted to do the right thing but Waller forced him to follow orders he knew were wrong and he ended up getting killed for his good intentions. Hopefully, he’ll be alive much longer in the new DCEU by James Gunn.
He's not, and I think it's a good thing because it's such an important moment in peacemakers character, he thought of Flag as a hero and looked up to him yet he was the one who had to kill him for what he believed was the greater good but deep down he knows Rick was also right in what he did, he was just trying to people the same as himself but through opposing means
Also apparently peacemaker season 2's main antagonist will be Rick flag Sr who is his father and is trying to get revenge for peacemaker killing his son
I can't believe people saw this scene and didn't think this character (Peacemaker) was redeemable with a modicum of exposition.
Serves you right Thinker and Peacemaker, he may become a antihero in the show later on but in this movie Peacemaker is undoubtedly an evil supervillain
not a supervillain, a stooge, much more realistic, and with nothing to respect or admire even in a villainous way, like say, with Luthor, who is so over the top and "on his own" you have to admire how much he's willing to commit to his vision, but Peacemaker is just a soulless soldier in this.
This movie is so well shot, like damn. Obviously the helmet reflection fight rules, but the moment when ratcatcher sees peacemaker kill flag, at first, peacemaker is shown normally, and ratcatcher is from behind this fence like she's in a cage. But then when she grabs the goober, giving her the upper hand, she is shown normally, and peacemaker is trapped. So good!
Where is KATANA? she was supposed to have his back.
The choice to show the glass piercing the heart is so visceral
It isn’t the death that scares me, it’s the fact that they did a close-up of his heart being stabbed.
You can see that PeaceMaker regretted that. The shift in his tone and his face. He really did not want to kill him
If Flag kept swinging the pipe rather than mounting Peacemaker, he honestly would've won
I just love that Rick's death made him reconsider his “for peace i can kill men, women and children for peace" thing like in peacemaker he was ordered to kill the family who are a global threat to the world but he didn't he hesitated hands shaking first time not able to press the triger
never thought john china would actually make me laugh as much as he made me when watching the peacemaker show. like goddamn that was great.
When katana doesn’t have your back:
God that fuckin heart stab is SO fuckin brutal.
1:54 flag off camera 🥵
His dad will be out for BLOOD
It's pretty underrated that Rick flag did that good in a fight against an invisible opponent
Underrated comment lol
Even though he killed flag, in the end, it was touching to see that peacemaker had respect for him.😢
I don’t think Flag really wanted to taste it.
Jesus I fuckin cannot believe this movie came out almlst 4 years ago now! What the fuck? Where does time go dude.
It almost feels like yesterday. I feel so old 😭
2:15 What's crazy is that there is no light inside the body and it's just completely dark in there.
John Cena should do more villainous roles he's actually good as an asshole lol
Hate it when angles and moves don’t match in the choreography. When he hits him with the pipe it cuts to a completely different direction than when he started the attack.
Both Peacemaker and Amanda Waller were jerks in this movie. They both decided to kill Rick Flag for no reason. And Flag was right about Peacemaker: Peacemaker what a joke. First Boomerang and now Rick Flag
Peacemaker killed Flagg in self defense.
This movie proved that the DC universe is safe with james gunn
Who here after watching Creature command
Peacemaker is just as insane as the joker. At least the joker knows he’s crazy
Rick Flag Sr in Creature Commandos is going to be heartbroken that his son died because of Peacemaker
James Gunn is amazing
Facts
I agree. Which is why im excited that he's the boss over at DC Studios :)
Fax
Dude peacemaker is a real super soldier
Yeah bro straight up has inhumane strength. Flag did pretty good in the fight tho
John Cena in real life has lifted over 750 pounds up over his head. Assuming a skinny guy like Flag only weighs like 160 pounds and assuming Cena is enraged its totally believable that he could toss him around like that.
I'm still impressed they managed to turn Rick Flag from a character I could not give any less of a shit about in Suicide Squad (2016) into someone I was actually upset to see die.
And yet people still want to talk shit about Gunn's new Superman. Henry Cavill is to what the 2016 Flag is😂
I swear they always kill off the most valid characters and the second movie…
If only Katana had his back
His back? What about his heart?
I love how her little rat doesn’t leave her side and is trying to defend her 🥺
Don't know if I'm overanalyzing, but I feel like the close up shot of Flag's heart being stabbed is meant to parallel the death of Enchantress, whose heart also had to be destroyed, and by him.
Remember children, while everyone else was looking to get time off their prison sentence Rick Flag was just clocking in for another monday.
Peacemaker, the Beelzemon of the Suicide Squad.
Ironically Ricks death brought Chris back because he hasn't felt a death like actually felt it sense his brother and Rick was a brother in arms.
That wound doesn't even make sense? How did it go through his ribs? There wasn't enough force behind the blow and the shard wasn't small enough to slip between the gap.
did u know wrestling is choerographed??
I love the detail of how towards the end of this scene, you can hear the sound of Bloodsport falling down