Dr. Amy-Jill Levine, Understanding Jesus and Paul Means Understanding Judaism
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- On March 29th, 2022, the Center for Catholic-Jewish Studies at Saint Leo University hosted a lecture featuring Dr. Amy-Jill Levine entitled, Understanding Jesus and Paul Means Understanding Judaism: Pharisees, Prayer, Parable, Practice. Dr. Levine's talk is particularly suited to help religious educators identify and avoid anti-Jewish teaching and preaching. The event was co-sponsored with the Roman Catholic Diocese of St. Petersburg.
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I enjoyed the free and open presentation. She really brought many things together and compared them very well and quickly.
Thank you! Dr. Levine, for your time it was great listening to your positive answers. .
Wonderful lecture. Learned a lot.
Thanks for sharing the video.
She's got some great zingers while destroying my misconceptions.
I love Professor Levine!
New Perspective on Paul is a movement that involves many Jewish scholars oddly enough:
Paula Frederiksen, Daniel Boyarin, Gabriele Boccaccini, Geza Vermes, Pamela Eisenbaum, Mark Kinzer, Nark Nanos, Amy Jill Levine, Isaac Oliver di Oliveira etc.
Very interesting! Much needed for scholarship, for Catholics and other Christians. Thanks! 😊
Half way through and Professor sure packs in some dense information. What some would take four episodes to do, she does in one😊
I believe if you read the Scriptures carefully what you see is how the Pharisee's we're teaching the people to follow the Law through the circumcision of their flesh and the works of their hands. But Paul could see that by following the Law we cast a shadow in the image of a Pharisee which looks like; pride, self-righteousness and judgment. So Paul sought to teach the people to follow Christ through the circumcision of their heart and the work of the Holy Spirit. For he knew that those who follow Christ, who is The Living Word, we would cast a shadow in the image of Christ which looks like the Law, having been sifted through a new heart and spirit of Love (Jeremiah 31:31-33).
Oh my, what a treasure trove of information, i am so impressed. BTW i wonder if i might ask for exposition on a word i recently crossed in my biblical studies. The word is ezer kenegdo, thanks in advance.
As a Protestant Christian I really liked her presentation and see many similar ideas to Dr.Michael S.Heiser PhD in O.T languages.
Thank you
Wow I had no idea I could tap into the merit of the amazing Pharisee in the synagogue. Who needs Jesus?
As Jews, we certainly don't
@@urbandiscount - we’re told it’s wrong and potentially dangerous to oversimplify and categorize any such group of people as “the Jews”. Who are they? What is anti-semitism? Is it any idea a Jew doesn’t like? Or is it a bad idea about any Jew? Entering into a discussion often reveals the chimera-like quality of any reference to a such a collective. The term first entered the popular lexicon in the mid 19th century when Wilhelm Marr used it as a way of defining the difference between a racial category from that of a collective attitudinal or “spirit” concept. Are “the Jews” a race, a collective attitude or “spirit”, a religion, or all three? You say “as Jews we certainly don’t” need Christ. The scripture and the Church say you and everyone else do need Him for your eternal salvation. That will never change regardless of the complexity or one-sidedness of the discussions in Catholic/Jewish dialogue. Dialogue necessitates the sharing of two points of view.
Our Lord Jesus Christ does want to die. He came into the world to die. And save sinners. “Not My Will but Thine be done” refers to the sadness He felt at knowing not all men would be saved but only some. Many would reject Him and therefore NOT be saved by His shedding of His precious blood and His death.
Little faith. Nicely said. May God bless you forever
Aww thanks! And you too B!
If he is God and he didn't want to die, he just wouldn't have died. I think the concept that Jesus would, as the physical embodiment of God, would have to choose to be hungry, thirsty, tired, weary, sad, etc. Is often lost on people.
And that he would have to choose to die as well. He can't be killed because only he can separate his soul from his body, so his life is something he has to give up of his own accord.
It's a very profound concept, and too often neglected
...I agree that He absolutely knew that He had come to die. "And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he steadfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem." Luke 9:51 Even in v53 "And they did not receive him, because his face (plan), was as though he would go to Jerusalem." Nothing could change his plan. But as far as him praying in the Garden "If possible take this cup from me" Jesus was also showing his humanity, he was in a flesh body and he was preparing himself to drink the cup of wrath for every person who would ever be saved. Sweating as it were, huge drops of blood. Knowing for a time, on that Cross the Father would crush him and turn His face away. Isaiah 53:10 "Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him: he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin..." This was the plan from Eternity past. God does not have a plan B. He does not fail. Acts 3:18 "But those things, which God before had shown by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath fulfilled." Peter says here. And Acts 2:28 He tells us it was determined before hand by God's counsel to be done. Jesus was there in Eternity past when this was determined. He knew, still it was not easy. But look what he has done for us. It's truly incredible. That's why no man can justify himself. God is beyond Glorious. 📖🌷
Was the Our Father prayer said liturgically? It is said the last line, no longer found in modern editions but it proves it existed as liturgical material. Much enjoyed his and other talks. If gentiles are not to keep commandments dose that mean gentiles do not love Jesus because He says if you love me keep my commandments? And one more is Baptism like a Mikva?
33:26 "..this day... dailly bread...'. I know the original aramaic word " lechem .... mahar...'.
that's hebrew, not aramaic
AWESOME! MICHAEL MURPHY S.j.
Wow. This is some lecture.
Date doesn't make sense- March 2022?
Is it possible the forgiving of debts in the Pater Noster is related to the jubilee laws in Deut 15, maybe related to the "appointed time has grown short" and ideas from the book of Jubilees? Something like the Messianic age aligning with the jubilee of jubilees, and thus coming with debt forgiveness.
When Jesus said the words "Forgive us our debts as we forgive those who indebted to us" He was telling us, in fact warning us to forgive our enemies if we want to be forgiven by the Father. If we do not forgive others even our worst enemies, then we cannot expect to be forgiven our sins. So we can lose our Souls and be condemned to hell by unforgivness. It is very serious.
50:18- In whatever state you came to #AvinuMalkienu remain as such, Jew and gentile...
54:08- Parables
The important thing for the Jewish people,is to except ,JESUS THE CHRIST, FOR WHO HE REALLY IS AND HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ( I AM ,GOD OF ADAM/ EVE,and ABRAHAM)
The real Jesus christ did not go to University?? God is not preached from Universities the true God.Sorry to say.shocked😮
Jesus and Paul taught totally different.Paul taught in mysteries,in circles,and alot of his own thoughts.Jesus taught in parables,to hide the truth from satans children,then He taught prophecies, He taught some deep wisdom,but mostly demonstrating the simplicity.of the gospel,matter of fact.
Was Rabbi Jesus have beloved young St.John Queer Theology, beloved Mary Magdalene according to Knight Templars or Celibate Eunuch of God?
I feel sorry for your blindness. Will pray that God takes the scales off your eyes and ears, and off your capacity to understand. Clearly you know nothing.
It doesn't seem like she actually believes either Judaismm or Christianityy, they both CAN'T be true. Jesus either is God or he isn't, if he is and you aren't Christian then whatever you believe is blasphemous and of course, if Jesus isn't God then Christians are blasphemous. . .
Get a life
My last comment was deleted. But Online it says she's an Orthodox Jew. She calls herself "A Yankee Jewish feminist." That says it all....
he isn't. And indeed, seen from judaism and islam, Christianity is blasphemy. It is why Maimonides was more stringent about jews returning to judaism from christianity than from islam, because he saw the former as not purely monotheistic.
@@urbandiscount Jesus is God as he states "I am " before Abraham was born!
Christianity comes from the Two Powers in Heaven Israelite theology that recognized the 2 YHWH's in Genesis 19:24. The trinity comes from this Israelite theology.
@@davidjanbaz7728 Sure Jan
So refreshing to hear Dr Levine's perspective.
REASONS WHY THE CHURCH OF CHRIST IS THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH
1. You can read about it in the New
Testament church. (MATTHEW
16:18; ROMANS 16:16; ACTS 4:12)
2. It has no creed but the Bible, binds
no name on members but Christ’s.
(ACTS 11:26; l PETER 4:16)
3. Its acts of worship are patterned
after New Testament examples.
(JOHN 4:24; ACTS 20:7;
I CORINTHIANS 16:1-2; EPHESIANS
5:19; COLOSDIANS 3:16)
4. It teaches that UNITY can be
achieved on all doctrinal disputed
questions. JOHN 17:21:
I CORINTHIANS 1:10; EPHESIANS
4:4-6)
5. Its future: Eternal Glory with Christ.
I THESSALONIANS 4:17;
MATTHEW 7:14)
THE CHURCH MUST WARE HIS NAME
Meh....this scholar is backhanded nice. And without ♥
I get the same vibes.
Yes, and meh sounds perfect to me.
She is a teacher, but she DOES NOT NEED to be so annoyingly condescending. If she is not really insufferable, she should definitely change her tone. And she made a few mistakes so …
If the New Testament is considered anti- semitic, then the Old Testament is much more so. God wants to wipe out the entire population of the Israelites and make a new one from Moses's offspring. The Old Testament contains very strong terms against the Jews uttered by God while condemning their unfaithfulness to him. The Jewish prophets too used strong language against the Jews.
Yes. Nu? Intense debate is a Jewish hallmark
Quite interesting.
But, perhaps re-study Sodom and
Gomorrah.
The Phds of this world need not be to the truth of heaven,
I really can't understand Dr. Levine's defense of Paul. Yes, he was preaching to the Gentiles, but he was clearly also doing something to upset the Jews, and his writings aren't always very nice... I say Dr. Levine and Professor Eisenman have a chat and see what they decide 😆
New Perspective on Paul is a movement that involves many Jewish scholars oddly enough:
Paula Frederiksen, Daniel Boyarin, Gabriele Boccaccini, Geza Vermes, Pamela Eisenbaum, Mark Kinzer, Mark Nanos, Amy Jill Levine, Isaac Oliver di Oliveira etc.
@@peterk.6930 are they all wrong?
@@Robert_L_Peters haha ik weet het niet...
maybe at least one of them is somewhat right
what do you think?
@@peterk.6930 I do not think so, no. I think Paul was either crazy or evil...
@@Robert_L_Peters ok, that s clear enough
I understand him as a Torah observing Jew.
Some of the Christian comments on this r hilarious every stereotype is represented
"JESUS NEVER EXISTED"
-KEN HUMPHREY
Is it true that Paul kill Jesus followers
No it’s not true at all.
Yes he hunted christians before he encountered Jesus in a vision. After that he stopped and changed his name from Saul to Paul.
its not clear at all it could be anything from killing to simple questioning
This lady seems to be really concerned about anti-Jewish teaching of Christianity but says nothing about anti-Goy or anti-Other teaching of her own religion… She needs to start out talking about that first!
Of course it is anti-Jewish.
That’s a very anti Christian comment… going by your standard that is
Everything except the, “I was crying because I thought I killed God”. Strike one. I better add the “. . .but because it is easier to forgive sin than a debt” reasoning on the grounds of incoherent logic. Strike two. [is 😮 it ] “rescue us from evil or The Evil One . . .what is easier to forgive, a sin or a debt. Something worth thinking about”. Strike three. It is not worth thinking about. All in all, what we have here is a failure to communicate the unbearable lightness of being Chauncey Gardner in the flesh - but I knew that or I didn’t.
Pagan.....
Such a lie. Paul and Jesus are completely against Judaism.
Why learn what Judaism is from a Christian?
You better read your Bible again brother.
@@br.m why? i left Christianity once i did
@@4real51 Paul and Jesus were both Jews. Christianity is not a new thing it is a progression of Judaism.
@@br.m no it's not. It's idolatry.
Korah was also Jewish and rebelled against Moses and was then swallowed by the earth
@@br.m jesus didn't fulfill anything. If you read in the original language of Hebrew then you'll realize the church changed everything to suit their story
Who cares if your university is the oldest Catholic university in Florida? Boring introduction about affiliated universities. Where's Bart Ehrman when you need him?
He has a YT channel. Did you check there?
Not taking on Muslim Apologists, did you see that clip? Keeping a safe head on his shoulders.
Bart Ehrman the apostate?
Hence the most welcome comment of all ever!
"Talk actually starts at 17. 03." or whatever.
Fixed with one simple edit: seriously! (credentials placed at the end, or cut and written in the description) for stalkers and data checkers.
Antiquated turn off. Lead with the information, (since the long march thru the institutions academic preening doesn't carry the same weight anyway).
@@michellecheriekjv4115 Yes Bart Ehrman said what when asked on record why he didn't debate Muslim Apologists!
Stunning and brave🙄