Their team may have misidentified the issue as a lack of aggression because the target priority and cooldown management isn't great. Lacking those skills leads to a lack of efficiency and uptime in active fights, which can make gameplay seem passive in contrast. That, or it's just cause they expected the tank to be their personal bodyguard.
Hi Emongg - this is bertmerps, thank you so much for spectating my VOD!!! You are completely right about target prioritization. And you could probably tell when I started getting tilted that game (It was after the first round that they started constantly complaining about me). Rewatching it again, it def was not my best gameplay. I think having 3 other teammates spending so much energy telling me what to do really negatively effected my gameplay. I was spending too much time trying to figure out how to appease them - but lesson learned. Just mute chat and keep vibing
I hope your climb goes well my friend. At least you are aware of the mistakes you made and can work on them and a good way to avoid getting tilted is to just mute chat yeah. I know it can feel bad that you have less communication but negative communication is worse then no communication.
Hey not everyone walks into ow2 perfect your skill will eventually get there there’s only one way for it to go and that’s up since you considerate and open to feedback you can’t please everyone and that’s just how people are
do /hidechat from the start of the match people will always flame the tank for everything. If target prioritisation is something you want to focus on you have to hammer it in your head, complete 100% focus on the thing you're trying to improve even if other areas may suffer temporarily. Try not to autopilot
I actually cant have chat turned off when i play tank (doomfist) because when I mess up even once I'm so used to being flamed that if i have chat turned off it feels like they are all yelling at me even if they aren't Fun fact the games ive done the best on were when my team was super nice and supportive. Ive had 100 hours on doomfist and about 3 games where that happens tho
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17:49 - This is why I think people should only ask for specific changes from a teammate, like "can you take an angle so they don't have all the space to walk in on us," "can we hold this corner," "can you play with me so that the Sombra/Tracer can't shut us down," "would you mind swapping to a hitscan to pressure the Pharah/Mercy," etc. (not all tank-specific, of course). If you tell a player, no matter what rank they're in (but probably more so in low/mid ranks) that they're "playing too passive," then they're much more likely to "play more aggressive" and die like they did here. And if that's not exactly what happens, at the very least, they're going to start second guessing themselves mid-fight, and while thinking is a good thing, indecision is a bad thing. Sometimes a player is just kind of autopiloting, and telling them they're playing too passive can wake them up to the right changes they need to make, but I think that's pretty rare in games like this. EDIT: emongg mentions it again at 21:29
I tried this once asking a tracer to swap to a better hitscan for pharah bc the tracer was actually terrible. and they cussed me out in chat saying it’s rude to ask someone to swap 🤡
Might just be in the low ranks, but I see much bad advice from teammates, that I have just learned to ignore most of what people say. Team: Dva, Sombra, Reaper, Bap, Ana Comment: ''Can someone switch to hitscan?'' .. Like I know you mean mid range hitscan for a pharah, but we are all hitscan already dude xD
Most metal ranked players have no idea what to do on defense. Your job is not to get elims, but to deny space regardless of what role you’re on. The scoreboard and POTG are so bad for the health of this game.
Weird note at the end ngl. Scoreboard and potg are great, glad we have them. Don't blame those for bad players being bad. They'll still be bad without them.
@@ex2738 yeah but when bad players get a potg with a very low skill high luck play it tells them they don't have to do anything different and the scoreboard makes people think the game is like call of duty it wouldn't be bad for the game if people bothered to learn the game but they're so far up their own asses with their scores that they don't care to get better.....they think they're the best
After offense is when the chat started getting toxic, so you are 100% correct. It just goes to show that not saying anything to your teammate is sometimes the better play (or turning off chat lol)
@@allanlugo7842 well its two entirely different playstyles all together, if you are an aggressive or defensive player you are gonna be weaker on one than the other
I had this issue a few days ago. King’s Row on Sig and I’m getting yelled at to be more aggressive. The moment I stepped out around the corner, I died in less than 2 seconds.
I get that same kind of thing sometimes as well, when my team cant see what i see, and im waiting for something like a pick in our favor or the enemy tank to burn a resource or make a mistake to capitalize, on. best one i remember was i was in-cover around a corner in JQ waiting for my CDs but als o i knew there was an enemy widow on point but not exactly where. and a dps called me a chicken, and if i wont push he will. thus naturally got deleted by the widow. it did at-least tell me where she was and i pushed out to Gracie>Shotgun>carnage the widow and take point. while laughing at the dps over coms. alot of the time people just need to worry about what themselves are doing and not the rest of the team. or at least try to work out why before complaining
In my mind i thought ult tracking was calculating what ult percentage each enemy is at not "hey they haven't used that ult yet i should look out for that."
Another big thing is look at the dps on each team. Cass+Genji vs Phara+Mei. The enemy team's dps have a way easier way to apply that 20% reduced healing while your Phara has no value against that unless she's getting 2 kills a fight. Dps players are gonna have to learn to swap off heros like Phara, Hanzo, Widow because that 20% reduced healing is literally game defining right now, and if you aren't straight up killing 1-2 enemies per fight than you have less value than a sniper tracer bc at least that 1 dmg applies the full debuff which gives your team that window of opportunity
I think the point of the video is the guy asking what he could do differently. Sometimes people don’t swap, maybe they can’t play anything else comfortably or maybe they just don’t want to. You can’t control that, you have to find a way to enable people playing suboptimal Overwatch. If you can do that 50% of the time, you will climb
@@Serendipity_GamingXThis is a silvers lobby with silver player aim. They are not going to be dominating with widow and would have a better time and more impact playing another dps if their team is losing.
A lot of people are still stuck in the pre-season 9 mental state where the tanks could push into the enemy backline without having to worry about much. It's sad to see people not being able to adjust more.
Oh, so many people just arent used to changes in general. I still get people that ask me why they as support have to heal the Sombra when Sombra should have a translocator near a health pack. No one reads patch notes and its apparently not common knowledge that Sombra was reworked.
I'm in metal ranks and I find regardless of what role you play if you lose the game ( sometimes even if you're winning which is weird ) the team has to blame somebody rather its the tank or support, dps do get blamed but not as often in my experience. I feel like most metal players do not understand the importance of using cover because healing has majorly took a hit this season. Most play out in the open and expect to do whatever they want like they could in previous seasons when healing was majorly op. This tank did a good job at using cover most of the time so I would definitely want tanks like this on my team ♡ plus we're in metal ranks and if you don't have a massive ego then you know your still working on improving your game play as well to get higher ranked. I turned off my chat and it's actually helped my focus so much! I'm also not distracted and actually playing the game instead of having a chat war. I found I have lost games that we were close to winning because people are being toxic in the chat and stopped playing the game. It's really frusterating because we're in metal ranks and still working on the basics we don't have enough skill to multitask typing with game play yet. But anyways sorry for the essay and watching this review Emongg gave me a better understanding of what tanks have to go through, so thank you.
The tank IMO is the quarterback of the team or at least that’s the way I play , I’m constantly telling my team what we’re gonna do and calling out the squishies who can die and suggesting counter picks for my DPS/Healers , I’m super flexible when it comes to my hero pool
I’m a support main and when I play tank just for fun in QP I’m always diving the supports. I noticed that alot of tank players focus either the dps or the other tank and it’s frustrating to say the least. I played a game as dva on new junk city and by the end of that game the enemy mercy told me to get gastric bypass surgery and to go fms. So make the supports life a living hell when you can as a tank because then you’ll maybe get messages like that lmao
It depends on the situation. For me at my current rank and skill set I OFTEN get more value focusing dps than support. Support players have so many tools to stay alive it generally takes somewhat remarkable circumstances to make their lives all that difficult. Another thing to keep in mind, if your tank and support are at different skill levels (something I suspect is very likely) what works for you when you play tank may not work nearly as well for the tank in your support games
luckily your qp mmr is so low that the enemy just lets you dive the backline without consequences. Once you get a bit better the enemy dps wont let you kill the mercy for free like that on top of the mercy being harder to dive in general.
@@djinscar2304I’m plat and ik that’s low but damn no need to roast me😭 Also there can obviously be complications when diving the supports. Yes, supports have a lot of tools to sustain themselves and that makes it difficult to dive them but it’s still possible. I’d say I probably killed the mercy around 5 times and the game went on for like 10 minutes. I didn’t think I killed her that many times until they typed in the chat that message. I was also referring to tanks in lower ranks. After watching a lot of spectating videos you’ll notice sometimes the lower tanks don’t go for the supports very often. I was just reiterating target priority and I’ve never been above plat but I’m sure going for the support that’s out of position is probably what a dva could do. But what do I know
@@assimilater-quicktipsoh yeah it’s definitely situational. What I meant was when you see the opportunity definitely go for the supports. I only play support in comp, so I can’t speak for the competitive side of a tank player but it still possible to kill an out of position support no matter what rank you are. Lower ranks just have poor target priority.
This is why everyone should play a bit of every role. Even if they’re bad at it or have never played it try it out in quick play so that you can really recognize when and where to take blame. If you literally out yourself in the shoes of another role it widens your perspective. You can see why your tank didn’t just “go in” or “push up” make the play you think they should’ve made and see where it gets you. I’m a support main but I play both DPS and tank. It caused me to flame people less and look at myself more. IMO it makes you a better support as well because you can recognize where to apply your support. For your DPS.
8:19 in plat and diamond the dvas will sit on the front line and face tank a zarya or rein. Were can I find these dvas that setup high ground and pressure the backline?
I have been is this situation a lot of Times (support main) i get a lot of tanks that just go forward with 1/3 of their health and of course they vanish from the fight (die) and then it's a Run simulator for me
@@ChronicBonirit's cause they feel immortal. Big health and shield = "no way I die". That's why I like playing the more mobility focused tanks. Cause you HAVE to learn when to engage and disengage, otherwise you perish. Playing Doom teaches you that quickly 😂. Especially in metal ranks where people don't usually dive in with you.
@@Truthforeals yea problem is am in low rank RN i get either tank or DPS that doesn't understand how the game works AM climbing up because of my friends i end the game having the heal of 2 supports and 0 deaths it's hilarious earing my friends reaction when i don't die
The "trade" portion at 5:40 is pretty smart. I was playing Pharah and had a tank charge at our team. Instead of playing the tank, i just started shooting the supports following him. They then focused their attention on me, lost sight of the tank and he was then obliterated by the rest of our team. I love tactics like these.
My problem is that many Dva's play like a rein and a rein that is too passive at that. It is clear when space can be taken and how they should and could take that space, but they choose to stand there. Likewise, I wish my tank's (often those same tanks) sometimes would wait to get healed up before going in, instead of being hyperagressive at the wrong moments. It is a matter of finding out when and where to play specific ways and how to quickly make that call for yourself and act. I feel that many tanks just lack the decisiveness and confidence to play as dynamically as desired. Since I am always attempting some sort of play, or offering from myself, some sort of solution to the current situation, this isn't a problem for me. In metal ranks, I just get 4k's all match and climb out, but from my experience after the rank reset, you are getting the problem many players have with their dva's/tanks a bit inverted. It isn't so much that people want their tanks to play one way in particular, but it is that they want their tanks to read the situation, adapt, and think quicker and more dynamically. It is that many tanks have a mindset that is too static for the figurehead of your teamcomp. But in reality, let the tank learn for themselves, focus on your own gameplay, and get better. If someone convinced you, an fps rookie, that silver was call of duty elite bots, you'd not care what your team was doing, and you'd be finding solutions for yourself on how you would win the match and eventually elite bots would be worthless to play against. You and only you are the gamechanger. Farm the 51% win rate.
I did my placements this weekend and in a game a player got jealous(?) and started typing things like Im here too, mercy. heal me too, mercy. and I just left text chat :v i've learned that when someone wants to teach you how to play it always ends up badly for both people so sometimes it's just best to ignore. I cant ignore easily so I just choose to not see the message instead
I mean, that could have been a sign that it would have been beneficial to heal them a bit more because you may have tunnel visioned on someone else, that's a very common issue. were they being annoying about it? was there a better way to communicate to a teammate that they needed more support? absolutely, 1000%. but don't mistake someone being annoying for them not having a potential point. I just want to point that out.
@@sethescope yeah i know. It can absolutely happen. Also, supports sometimes have a mentality of 'i dont think this person is helping the team enough so i wont heal them' which is a weird way to think in a team based game but i've seen it happen more than it should. Expecially when they are duoing with a dps. This example I gave was simpler tho. The person was positioning themselves in a way that I would die if I helped them cause my heals are close ranged, so I didnt help them. It was also the first death of the game and the objective wasnt even active so I assumed he was just frustated with previous games and was letting his frustation out on chat and I want none of that in my games
I do feel he was also let down by the dps. When that Zen was inside the team wtf was the dps. They should be able to just look at him when hes that out of position and delete him. I also feel with that first mercy rez she was pretty exposed and he got the mercy very low but then the dps just didn't do anything or try to shoot her and she got away. I feel like a lot of mistakes were made by the team overall in this game and the dps could have tried better to focus key targets down.
Thank you! Finally someone said it. I play DVa and almost everyone complains that I'm not "shielding". Like, I'm not Reinhart. I won't trade, I'm most of the time trying to take out their support and jump back to my team to help. Flanking. But I do use my defense matrix to "shield" my team from projectiles.
That’s 100% true though when you have a good team with good healers and good DPS that tank most of the tanks, diva reaper which Orissa they should be beasts I mean beast. They should be hammering hard on everything and just depending on healers to keep them alive and DPS to clean up the Fringes I mean you know you gotta know you played with somebody that played like that right and it’s just a moralizing for the other team when you see a diva sitting up in the air on a ledge shooting from long range, they’re bullets, splashing all over the ground around the target doing virtually no damage With absolutely no reason why they’re not pushing hard on that person. You know your diva just doesn’t have a clue, and of all of them diva come on diva has a fast school down on her boosters she can get in and out of trouble really quickly and the only time she shouldn’t dive in is if she hast to face tank, you know the entire other team but if it’s a one on one, she should win that every time, the closer she gets the more bullets that hit if she’s got her missiles it’s a no-brainer it is so frustrating when the tank with 5 to 600 health is sniping or trying to flank or doing some shit that’s not helping at all even reaper with lower health what is he like 375 now he can get in the midst of shit and go all ape and start punching people to death and then also just fucking demoralizes the other team I mean again if you’re five on one you’re gonna die almost instantly, but if it’s one or two, and there’s a healer on you You’re gonna kill one real quick three punches max. He can go from long range where if you’re good at aiming that beam of his I don’t know what it’s called is what is staff weapon that shit does a lot of damage as long as you’re hitting the target and then if they move up or you move up up close you start punching he’s he’s a beast, so is Orissa with her abilities so is diva with her ability to pick a target and just dive on it and and soon as it dies turn, and boost away again I mean, they hold back their times not back many times are not choosing the right time people have eagles and they’re afraid to die so they don’t take risks and the team that’s doing that loses almost every time
I recently took a peek at your Liquipedia out of curiosity, and saw that you played CSGO for Noble Esports. Have you considered trying CS2 out? Or are the CS days long gone? I saw you clips on TH-cam and you were amazing at it
Well, not to mention, Remare doesn’t need his ultimate to be the diva. All he asked to do is start punching as long as the diva doesn’t get rockets on him, and doesn’t you know, necessarily have her shield diva not gonna withstand punches from her mantra in beast mode or whatever it’s called, not the ultimate but the other I don’t know whatever it’s called when you start punching I don’t know the names of shit I just know what I do and even without heels I’m pretty sure Matra is going to be diva as long as Ramara doesn’t get caught too much off guard, so in ultimateis definitely gonna win that exchange especially since your team or their team I mean is also gonna be shooting at diva
Dva in qp i dominate. Dva in ranked. I'm stuck in bronze and things just dont work...I feel like I get stuck in a shitty rank and have to compensate for my team if I want to win.
compensating for your team is legitimately part of climbing. if you want to win, you need to do more than just your part. you need to do your job and also help out in areas where your teammates might be struggling. for a tank, that literally might mean working on disengaging earlier to go for a health pack so you don't have the downtime when you're waiting for your supports to notice you need help and then actually help you. yes, you momentarily leave the fight but you're back sooner than you might be otherwise. if one of your dps is struggling really badly, then maybe you have to adjust to a more death match play style to get the elims first before trying to take map control. these are just examples, I don't know the exact adjustments you might need to make because I don't know the exact types of mistakes that your teammates will make. but basically, yeah, you do have to compensate for your team's weaknesses. that's how you climb through any rank, not just bronze.
I think the issue is target priority and positioning, it’s hard to master those and even people fuck if up in the highest ranks. Takes time, knowledge of the map and you need to know how to read the current situation.
As a pharah main learning who to target first in a fight does help a lot. If they have ana I’ll try to go for her first so my tank doesn’t get bullied by her. Then I’ll try to target unaware hitscans😂
Unpopular Opinion: Players aren’t bad for their rank, or bad at the game cause being good is subjective to anyone’s journey and the game is widely changing so who’s good at it is always changing. The real problem is toxic players. I understand that the game isn’t fun when you’re losing, it isn’t for all of us. But maybe instead of watching your death maybe spectate. And actually watch and not scroll tiktok for 5 seconds. I go in voice chat and positively yet vulgarly tell them what they did wrong or give a suggestion of a new play and tell them that we got this! Cause being negative isn’t good for anyone cause at that point the game ain’t fun when ppl are spending 30 seconds typing when they could be playing. Positive games make for positive results, if your having fun your having fun not your having fun cause your cracked at the game and you’re diffing everyone yea it may be fun for you, but that isn’t everyone’s, so maybe give some helpful and not brain dead tips and maybe you’ll see some improvement. Even if it’s just thanking and tbaging your healers cause you won the team fight it all makes a difference in how the game is played when you are genuinely having fun
idea for a series teach players what areas of the map are key and what positioning is. this tank has no idea how to defend a map. in fact inmy experience most players dont know how to play defense becuase its not as somple as playing offense is.
Target priority is not hard to understand but people gets nervous for their performance and they begin with mistake after mistake, or also have tunnel vision for an annoying opponent
When i tank, the most common problem I have, is that no matter who I take, team mates seem to think that I should play like Reinhardt. It's quite frustrating.
I have not watched the while video yet, but that dva on defense is just walking back. that sucks soo much, it's only giving space instead of contesting it.
.....Your tanks go behind cover? Sorry my tanks get life gripped by my LW at 5% hp after saving their life then immediately hop off the platform that is keeping them safe and dive right back in before I can heal them 2 times. I do not accept that tanks go behind cover, at least not in my elo lmao.
I mean, there are classic support mistakes that I'm sure you make too. that's why you're in the same rank as the tanks who very rarely use cover. something you'll learn as you climb, assuming that's something you're working on, is how to make fewer of the classic support mistakes. as you make fewer mistakes and climb, then you'll also see tanks who make fewer of the classic tank mistakes.
I have played a lot of silver and Tbh why no one hecking swap to Sombra or Tracer to kill the zen? Moira is enough to calm any silver Genji in general. Ana can sleep Ram ulti easily, it finaly just miss a widow to rekt the reaper. Well it's always ez to blame other people but keep in mind, it's Not top 500 and in silver it's Counterwatch not Overwatch. Anyway playing DPSs is basically shoot everyone showing and blame everyone when outplayed
Yeah their DPS was afraid of their own shadow the entire match, Tanks are supposed to well, tank, but a tank can’t babysit the entire team, if your getting rolled on DPS it’s most likely a you problem, you need to be playing with the tank, not telling them to go yeet themselves into a meat grinder so you can maybe get an elim on the out of position ash.
Honestly they had some decent plays for a silver, losing was indeed a team effort, it's just easy to blame tank if you dont get perfect engages due to high visibility. They where clearly tilted amd checking out at the end
I've always thought tanks are bipolar (especially Rein). Embrace the passive/agressive mental state. People who want to be more agro, really want you to flick quicker.
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I had many games where every time i push up front, nobody backs me up and will keep getting focused by the whole enemy team, little by little you get more passive, Now your team is blaming the tank. Typical ovewatch player for you lol
listening to teammates especially in low ranks is so pointless, it is so much more detrimental to have team chat off than on if you're somebody who can easily tilt from toxicity
tanks cant tank, healers cant heal, but dps can do a lot of dps now... its going to end up like unreal tournament? all heros with same abilities with different skins?
I HATE when teammates try telling you what to do. If you are someone who likes telling your teammates how to play, let this be a lesson. EVEN IF you’re not straight up telling them the wrong thing (and if you’re a metal rank you are absolutely telling them the wrong thing don’t delude yourself) IF the player listens to your advice it’s ALWAYS going to lead to your teammates playing worse. Just shut up and focus on your own play
Understand your point but if someone on your team has terrible positioning and bad target priority you gotta tell them. Of course you should do it nicely but still it’s ok to communicate with your teams regardless of what rank you are
I’m not into telling people what to do (and never in QP), but I’ll gladly say “1v5 ain’t gonna work, champ” and actually something helpful “if possible, Ana or zen would be great against this Mauga/Hog” … or the classic “Moira, your 1-8 dps flanks aren’t working, healing might be a better help” … but whatever, usually its a ‘gg go next’ if your tank just likes to stand on the payload or Bap is 3000 damage to 800 heals with nothing to show for it or dps likes to fight a bob solo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@fawnleif you don’t really got to tell them anything. They got to where they are by doing what they’re doing so clearly it works well enough for them to be here. And you’re not going to be around after the ONE game you’re with them to take responsibility for the bad or at the very least short-sighted advice you give them. If they’re 1v5 and you think it’s losing you the game join them and make it 2v5 for a fight or two, see if it works. Your climbing is a function of you, and it’s not make or break over 1 loss from someone doing something that seems stupid to you
@@assimilater-quicktips When I play tank, sometimes I just need someone to tell me "hey be more mindful of your healthbar" or "stop overextending" or even "you need to push" (that one is a bit more annoying because typically when I'm told that it's because if I move any further up I will explode). Sometimes, especially with the rank reset, friendly advice could be really helpful because there are going to be people who end up in places they shouldn't be on the matchmaker, who have no idea what's going on. I very, very rarely ask anything of my teammates because I don't care enough to, but when someone or a role is dropping the ball, I ask if we could get different heroes. I never demand it or anything, I just say "Hey, [HERO NAME] could be good here to counter [HERO NAME]" or "Hey they have a Sym and a Zarya maybe DVA isn't the best choice." Sometimes people go really hard on the backseating and the yelling and make ridiculous demands, and that sucks, but I think there is a right way to give advice and instruction. I totally get it, it's frustrating to be told what to do, but for some people it could be helpful, especially if you're not telling them to do or not to do something, but instead gently explaining how they could improve.
Easily the biggest problem in ranked is crap heals trying to do dps instead of healing. Half my games our heals are under 2k in heals… they need to cut all healer damage in half
I hate this meta for tank I went from gold 5 to silver 2 on tank cuz every game I get someone who swears there a tank main and explains y I got tank diffed mean while there 5-7 with 4000+ dmg like bro you not killing anything u trashcan
you didn't drop from gold 5 to silver 2 because of your teammates. you dropped from gold 5 to silver 2 because you keep making silver mistakes and aren't ready to climb further into gold/stay in gold. full stop. it's very common to spend a little time bouncing between, in your case, silver 2 to like, gold 4. you're right on the edge of a new rank, you're still figuring out how to shed your silver mistakes and play well enough to climb further into gold. you'll have the same issue if you eventually get to the gold 2-plat 4 range. that's normal because the game changes as you move between ranks. you've already figured out what you need to do to win silver games for the most part. now you're in the process of learning how to win gold games consistently. you're going to struggle for a bit, and that's okay. you will struggle less and for a shorter period of time when you stay focused purely on yourself and your mistakes, though.
also here's the thing a lot of players don't get, sometimes a loss is no one's fault, sure there's probably things to work on but in some matches a team is just going to be better overall or have better comms, it's not always so cut and dry to blame the tank, dps, or support, there are times where that can be the case but also it's more likely that your team just got out played. people just don't wanna feel like it's their fault so they put blame on someone else even if it's no ones fault and everyone played ok
Man why is this guy silver, but I’m fucking bronze and trying to play my ass off with monkey. I swear I just get bad dps players that have 0 target priority and don’t know how or when to commit to a dive/strike attack. Honestly makes playing completely miserable and is the hardest season to break the bronze barrier
you're in bronze. neither you nor your teammates know how to play dive. stop trying to force a play style that is fundamentally incompatible with your rank and current skill level and focus on enabling your team. dive requires a high level of teamwork and the mechanical skills to properly time dives and following up on your teammates. these skills do not exist in bronze. think about it like this: currently, you're in bronze. your first goal is to get to silver. the best way to do that is to play like someone in high silver or gold. don't try to force strats or team comps you see in top 500 games. just play like you deserve silver or gold by not making the most common mistakes made by bronze and low silver players. you don't need to overcomplicate it. just focus on making fewer mistakes, and the way to do that is by first identifying your biggest or most common mistakes. I'm not about to say "don't play Winston" because I don't think that's good advice. I climbed from gold 2 to diamond 3 in a single season primarily as Mercy (5x the hours on her in ranked than my next most played hero). I'm a firm believer in playing who you want to play and that you can be successful with any hero you want. but you absolutely need to focus on your own bad plays and your mistakes. working on having realistic and reasonable expectations of your teammates sounds like it would be a great first step for you.
Alright SO! I love these videos, but I’d be in favor of fewer OT games. Watching the same dude make the same mistakes for 30 minutes may be a little much. I dunno. Maybe I’m alone. It’s fine. I just don’t make it to the end usually.
Their team may have misidentified the issue as a lack of aggression because the target priority and cooldown management isn't great. Lacking those skills leads to a lack of efficiency and uptime in active fights, which can make gameplay seem passive in contrast.
That, or it's just cause they expected the tank to be their personal bodyguard.
Hi Emongg - this is bertmerps, thank you so much for spectating my VOD!!! You are completely right about target prioritization. And you could probably tell when I started getting tilted that game (It was after the first round that they started constantly complaining about me). Rewatching it again, it def was not my best gameplay. I think having 3 other teammates spending so much energy telling me what to do really negatively effected my gameplay. I was spending too much time trying to figure out how to appease them - but lesson learned. Just mute chat and keep vibing
I hope your climb goes well my friend. At least you are aware of the mistakes you made and can work on them and a good way to avoid getting tilted is to just mute chat yeah. I know it can feel bad that you have less communication but negative communication is worse then no communication.
Hey not everyone walks into ow2 perfect your skill will eventually get there there’s only one way for it to go and that’s up since you considerate and open to feedback you can’t please everyone and that’s just how people are
Biggest tip tbh, if your team does that to you again mute them and play your game as best you can. You got this!
do /hidechat from the start of the match people will always flame the tank for everything. If target prioritisation is something you want to focus on you have to hammer it in your head, complete 100% focus on the thing you're trying to improve even if other areas may suffer temporarily. Try not to autopilot
I actually cant have chat turned off when i play tank (doomfist) because when I mess up even once I'm so used to being flamed that if i have chat turned off it feels like they are all yelling at me even if they aren't
Fun fact the games ive done the best on were when my team was super nice and supportive.
Ive had 100 hours on doomfist and about 3 games where that happens tho
And we now call him, “MiniMongg”
MinEmongg :D
I think Mong is a name you wanna give someone hahahah
Very good, Mini Green Screen Emongg. By appearing small, you've successfully reduced your apparent power so as to deceive those that would challenge you. Little do they know that it's an elaborate facade
17:49 - This is why I think people should only ask for specific changes from a teammate, like "can you take an angle so they don't have all the space to walk in on us," "can we hold this corner," "can you play with me so that the Sombra/Tracer can't shut us down," "would you mind swapping to a hitscan to pressure the Pharah/Mercy," etc. (not all tank-specific, of course). If you tell a player, no matter what rank they're in (but probably more so in low/mid ranks) that they're "playing too passive," then they're much more likely to "play more aggressive" and die like they did here. And if that's not exactly what happens, at the very least, they're going to start second guessing themselves mid-fight, and while thinking is a good thing, indecision is a bad thing. Sometimes a player is just kind of autopiloting, and telling them they're playing too passive can wake them up to the right changes they need to make, but I think that's pretty rare in games like this.
EDIT: emongg mentions it again at 21:29
I tried this once asking a tracer to swap to a better hitscan for pharah bc the tracer was actually terrible. and they cussed me out in chat saying it’s rude to ask someone to swap 🤡
Might just be in the low ranks, but I see much bad advice from teammates, that I have just learned to ignore most of what people say.
Team: Dva, Sombra, Reaper, Bap, Ana
Comment: ''Can someone switch to hitscan?''
.. Like I know you mean mid range hitscan for a pharah, but we are all hitscan already dude xD
Most metal ranked players have no idea what to do on defense. Your job is not to get elims, but to deny space regardless of what role you’re on. The scoreboard and POTG are so bad for the health of this game.
Weird note at the end ngl. Scoreboard and potg are great, glad we have them. Don't blame those for bad players being bad. They'll still be bad without them.
Potg fine scoreboard is used 90% of the time as an excuse by those bad players and otherwise is not really used for much lol but I get why it's there
@@ex2738 yeah but when bad players get a potg with a very low skill high luck play it tells them they don't have to do anything different and the scoreboard makes people think the game is like call of duty it wouldn't be bad for the game if people bothered to learn the game but they're so far up their own asses with their scores that they don't care to get better.....they think they're the best
Ok so their job is to defend
Real
He was good on offense and bad on defense. He looked like he was lost and didn't know what to do
After offense is when the chat started getting toxic, so you are 100% correct. It just goes to show that not saying anything to your teammate is sometimes the better play (or turning off chat lol)
It happens a lot, most teams suck on attack and do defense great, and viceversa, its really weird
dude definitely went on tilt and did the worst sin of overwatch, listening to your teammates in metal ranks.
@@allanlugo7842 well its two entirely different playstyles all together, if you are an aggressive or defensive player you are gonna be weaker on one than the other
Emongg being the height of Mei on the green screen is PEAK never change that and bring back the scuffed lighting
I had this issue a few days ago. King’s Row on Sig and I’m getting yelled at to be more aggressive. The moment I stepped out around the corner, I died in less than 2 seconds.
There were alot of random afk moments mid fight where the just refused to make a decision and stood there.
pretty sure he was probably typing to teammates in chat.. which is also a waste of time, but that's a lot more justified.
I get that same kind of thing sometimes as well, when my team cant see what i see, and im waiting for something like a pick in our favor or the enemy tank to burn a resource or make a mistake to capitalize, on. best one i remember was i was in-cover around a corner in JQ waiting for my CDs but als o i knew there was an enemy widow on point but not exactly where. and a dps called me a chicken, and if i wont push he will. thus naturally got deleted by the widow. it did at-least tell me where she was and i pushed out to Gracie>Shotgun>carnage the widow and take point. while laughing at the dps over coms. alot of the time people just need to worry about what themselves are doing and not the rest of the team. or at least try to work out why before complaining
In my mind i thought ult tracking was calculating what ult percentage each enemy is at not "hey they haven't used that ult yet i should look out for that."
Another big thing is look at the dps on each team. Cass+Genji vs Phara+Mei. The enemy team's dps have a way easier way to apply that 20% reduced healing while your Phara has no value against that unless she's getting 2 kills a fight. Dps players are gonna have to learn to swap off heros like Phara, Hanzo, Widow because that 20% reduced healing is literally game defining right now, and if you aren't straight up killing 1-2 enemies per fight than you have less value than a sniper tracer bc at least that 1 dmg applies the full debuff which gives your team that window of opportunity
I think the point of the video is the guy asking what he could do differently. Sometimes people don’t swap, maybe they can’t play anything else comfortably or maybe they just don’t want to. You can’t control that, you have to find a way to enable people playing suboptimal Overwatch. If you can do that 50% of the time, you will climb
Perfect response @whiteronaldj90
This is the worse take I've seen ever. Widow is dominating lobbies still the only 1 shot hero and still easy to apply the debuff
@@Serendipity_GamingX he literaly said unnless ur killing 1-2 each fight if ur talking about widow one shot ur killing atleast 1 a fight
@@Serendipity_GamingXThis is a silvers lobby with silver player aim. They are not going to be dominating with widow and would have a better time and more impact playing another dps if their team is losing.
A lot of people are still stuck in the pre-season 9 mental state where the tanks could push into the enemy backline without having to worry about much. It's sad to see people not being able to adjust more.
People Who dont play tank just cant understand it.
i think that person was a dps main or support, didnt look like bro played tank much
Oh, so many people just arent used to changes in general. I still get people that ask me why they as support have to heal the Sombra when Sombra should have a translocator near a health pack. No one reads patch notes and its apparently not common knowledge that Sombra was reworked.
I'm in metal ranks and I find regardless of what role you play if you lose the game ( sometimes even if you're winning which is weird ) the team has to blame somebody rather its the tank or support, dps do get blamed but not as often in my experience. I feel like most metal players do not understand the importance of using cover because healing has majorly took a hit this season. Most play out in the open and expect to do whatever they want like they could in previous seasons when healing was majorly op. This tank did a good job at using cover most of the time so I would definitely want tanks like this on my team ♡ plus we're in metal ranks and if you don't have a massive ego then you know your still working on improving your game play as well to get higher ranked. I turned off my chat and it's actually helped my focus so much! I'm also not distracted and actually playing the game instead of having a chat war. I found I have lost games that we were close to winning because people are being toxic in the chat and stopped playing the game. It's really frusterating because we're in metal ranks and still working on the basics we don't have enough skill to multitask typing with game play yet. But anyways sorry for the essay and watching this review Emongg gave me a better understanding of what tanks have to go through, so thank you.
14:53 the Dva should go in spawn for a remach! Go in and swap another hero then swap back dva
The tank IMO is the quarterback of the team or at least that’s the way I play , I’m constantly telling my team what we’re gonna do and calling out the squishies who can die and suggesting counter picks for my DPS/Healers , I’m super flexible when it comes to my hero pool
the new green screen improvements are nice emongg
I’m a support main and when I play tank just for fun in QP I’m always diving the supports. I noticed that alot of tank players focus either the dps or the other tank and it’s frustrating to say the least.
I played a game as dva on new junk city and by the end of that game the enemy mercy told me to get gastric bypass surgery and to go fms. So make the supports life a living hell when you can as a tank because then you’ll maybe get messages like that lmao
It depends on the situation. For me at my current rank and skill set I OFTEN get more value focusing dps than support. Support players have so many tools to stay alive it generally takes somewhat remarkable circumstances to make their lives all that difficult.
Another thing to keep in mind, if your tank and support are at different skill levels (something I suspect is very likely) what works for you when you play tank may not work nearly as well for the tank in your support games
luckily your qp mmr is so low that the enemy just lets you dive the backline without consequences. Once you get a bit better the enemy dps wont let you kill the mercy for free like that on top of the mercy being harder to dive in general.
@@djinscar2304I’m plat and ik that’s low but damn no need to roast me😭
Also there can obviously be complications when diving the supports. Yes, supports have a lot of tools to sustain themselves and that makes it difficult to dive them but it’s still possible. I’d say I probably killed the mercy around 5 times and the game went on for like 10 minutes. I didn’t think I killed her that many times until they typed in the chat that message.
I was also referring to tanks in lower ranks. After watching a lot of spectating videos you’ll notice sometimes the lower tanks don’t go for the supports very often.
I was just reiterating target priority and I’ve never been above plat but I’m sure going for the support that’s out of position is probably what a dva could do. But what do I know
@@assimilater-quicktipsoh yeah it’s definitely situational. What I meant was when you see the opportunity definitely go for the supports. I only play support in comp, so I can’t speak for the competitive side of a tank player but it still possible to kill an out of position support no matter what rank you are. Lower ranks just have poor target priority.
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ALRIGHT SO!!
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alright so.
8:09 how am i just learning about this spot tbh i rarely get fights here but still
This is why everyone should play a bit of every role. Even if they’re bad at it or have never played it try it out in quick play so that you can really recognize when and where to take blame. If you literally out yourself in the shoes of another role it widens your perspective. You can see why your tank didn’t just “go in” or “push up” make the play you think they should’ve made and see where it gets you. I’m a support main but I play both DPS and tank. It caused me to flame people less and look at myself more. IMO it makes you a better support as well because you can recognize where to apply your support. For your DPS.
8:19 in plat and diamond the dvas will sit on the front line and face tank a zarya or rein. Were can I find these dvas that setup high ground and pressure the backline?
I have been is this situation a lot of Times (support main) i get a lot of tanks that just go forward with 1/3 of their health and of course they vanish from the fight (die) and then it's a Run simulator for me
Seriously, tanks can be super stubborn sometimes n refuse to wait for any support to help them at least
@@ChronicBonir and especially now with the dps new ability to cut off healing it takes even more time to heal him up
@@ChronicBonirit's cause they feel immortal. Big health and shield = "no way I die". That's why I like playing the more mobility focused tanks. Cause you HAVE to learn when to engage and disengage, otherwise you perish. Playing Doom teaches you that quickly 😂. Especially in metal ranks where people don't usually dive in with you.
@@Truthforeals yea problem is am in low rank RN i get either tank or DPS that doesn't understand how the game works AM climbing up because of my friends i end the game having the heal of 2 supports and 0 deaths it's hilarious earing my friends reaction when i don't die
Loved the greenscreen segment, it was hilarious but also actually kinda informative, I like the drawings helping illustrate the point.
The "trade" portion at 5:40 is pretty smart. I was playing Pharah and had a tank charge at our team. Instead of playing the tank, i just started shooting the supports following him. They then focused their attention on me, lost sight of the tank and he was then obliterated by the rest of our team. I love tactics like these.
I love the way u described tank play in season 9. Perfect.
My problem is that many Dva's play like a rein and a rein that is too passive at that. It is clear when space can be taken and how they should and could take that space, but they choose to stand there. Likewise, I wish my tank's (often those same tanks) sometimes would wait to get healed up before going in, instead of being hyperagressive at the wrong moments. It is a matter of finding out when and where to play specific ways and how to quickly make that call for yourself and act. I feel that many tanks just lack the decisiveness and confidence to play as dynamically as desired. Since I am always attempting some sort of play, or offering from myself, some sort of solution to the current situation, this isn't a problem for me. In metal ranks, I just get 4k's all match and climb out, but from my experience after the rank reset, you are getting the problem many players have with their dva's/tanks a bit inverted. It isn't so much that people want their tanks to play one way in particular, but it is that they want their tanks to read the situation, adapt, and think quicker and more dynamically. It is that many tanks have a mindset that is too static for the figurehead of your teamcomp. But in reality, let the tank learn for themselves, focus on your own gameplay, and get better. If someone convinced you, an fps rookie, that silver was call of duty elite bots, you'd not care what your team was doing, and you'd be finding solutions for yourself on how you would win the match and eventually elite bots would be worthless to play against. You and only you are the gamechanger. Farm the 51% win rate.
I did my placements this weekend and in a game a player got jealous(?) and started typing things like Im here too, mercy. heal me too, mercy. and I just left text chat :v
i've learned that when someone wants to teach you how to play it always ends up badly for both people so sometimes it's just best to ignore. I cant ignore easily so I just choose to not see the message instead
Yeah happens a lot I’ve grown to just ignore certain people at this point.
I mean, that could have been a sign that it would have been beneficial to heal them a bit more because you may have tunnel visioned on someone else, that's a very common issue. were they being annoying about it? was there a better way to communicate to a teammate that they needed more support? absolutely, 1000%. but don't mistake someone being annoying for them not having a potential point. I just want to point that out.
mercy should be tunnel visioned on the dps and help the tank if need be
@@sethescope yeah i know. It can absolutely happen. Also, supports sometimes have a mentality of 'i dont think this person is helping the team enough so i wont heal them' which is a weird way to think in a team based game but i've seen it happen more than it should. Expecially when they are duoing with a dps. This example I gave was simpler tho. The person was positioning themselves in a way that I would die if I helped them cause my heals are close ranged, so I didnt help them. It was also the first death of the game and the objective wasnt even active so I assumed he was just frustated with previous games and was letting his frustation out on chat and I want none of that in my games
@@vex9179i try to help tanks as much as i can cause i feel so bad for them this season 😭😭
I do feel he was also let down by the dps. When that Zen was inside the team wtf was the dps. They should be able to just look at him when hes that out of position and delete him. I also feel with that first mercy rez she was pretty exposed and he got the mercy very low but then the dps just didn't do anything or try to shoot her and she got away.
I feel like a lot of mistakes were made by the team overall in this game and the dps could have tried better to focus key targets down.
i love the new pen pad thing. im a visual learner so it helps me remember the things you are saying. love these videos!
Thank you! Finally someone said it. I play DVa and almost everyone complains that I'm not "shielding". Like, I'm not Reinhart. I won't trade, I'm most of the time trying to take out their support and jump back to my team to help. Flanking. But I do use my defense matrix to "shield" my team from projectiles.
That’s 100% true though when you have a good team with good healers and good DPS that tank most of the tanks, diva reaper which Orissa they should be beasts I mean beast. They should be hammering hard on everything and just depending on healers to keep them alive and DPS to clean up the Fringes I mean you know you gotta know you played with somebody that played like that right and it’s just a moralizing for the other team when you see a diva sitting up in the air on a ledge shooting from long range, they’re bullets, splashing all over the ground around the target doing virtually no damage With absolutely no reason why they’re not pushing hard on that person. You know your diva just doesn’t have a clue, and of all of them diva come on diva has a fast school down on her boosters she can get in and out of trouble really quickly and the only time she shouldn’t dive in is if she hast to face tank, you know the entire other team but if it’s a one on one, she should win that every time, the closer she gets the more bullets that hit if she’s got her missiles it’s a no-brainer it is so frustrating when the tank with 5 to 600 health is sniping or trying to flank or doing some shit that’s not helping at all even reaper with lower health what is he like 375 now he can get in the midst of shit and go all ape and start punching people to death and then also just fucking demoralizes the other team I mean again if you’re five on one you’re gonna die almost instantly, but if it’s one or two, and there’s a healer on you You’re gonna kill one real quick three punches max. He can go from long range where if you’re good at aiming that beam of his I don’t know what it’s called is what is staff weapon that shit does a lot of damage as long as you’re hitting the target and then if they move up or you move up up close you start punching he’s he’s a beast, so is Orissa with her abilities so is diva with her ability to pick a target and just dive on it and and soon as it dies turn, and boost away again I mean, they hold back their times not back many times are not choosing the right time people have eagles and they’re afraid to die so they don’t take risks and the team that’s doing that loses almost every time
I recently took a peek at your Liquipedia out of curiosity, and saw that you played CSGO for Noble Esports. Have you considered trying CS2 out? Or are the CS days long gone? I saw you clips on TH-cam and you were amazing at it
Well, not to mention, Remare doesn’t need his ultimate to be the diva. All he asked to do is start punching as long as the diva doesn’t get rockets on him, and doesn’t you know, necessarily have her shield diva not gonna withstand punches from her mantra in beast mode or whatever it’s called, not the ultimate but the other I don’t know whatever it’s called when you start punching I don’t know the names of shit I just know what I do and even without heels I’m pretty sure Matra is going to be diva as long as Ramara doesn’t get caught too much off guard, so in ultimateis definitely gonna win that exchange especially since your team or their team I mean is also gonna be shooting at diva
Dva in qp i dominate. Dva in ranked. I'm stuck in bronze and things just dont work...I feel like I get stuck in a shitty rank and have to compensate for my team if I want to win.
Exactly how I feel too and it SUCKS
compensating for your team is legitimately part of climbing. if you want to win, you need to do more than just your part. you need to do your job and also help out in areas where your teammates might be struggling. for a tank, that literally might mean working on disengaging earlier to go for a health pack so you don't have the downtime when you're waiting for your supports to notice you need help and then actually help you. yes, you momentarily leave the fight but you're back sooner than you might be otherwise. if one of your dps is struggling really badly, then maybe you have to adjust to a more death match play style to get the elims first before trying to take map control. these are just examples, I don't know the exact adjustments you might need to make because I don't know the exact types of mistakes that your teammates will make.
but basically, yeah, you do have to compensate for your team's weaknesses. that's how you climb through any rank, not just bronze.
If you are better you will win more than you lose, will take long though
I think the issue is target priority and positioning, it’s hard to master those and even people fuck if up in the highest ranks. Takes time, knowledge of the map and you need to know how to read the current situation.
As a pharah main learning who to target first in a fight does help a lot. If they have ana I’ll try to go for her first so my tank doesn’t get bullied by her. Then I’ll try to target unaware hitscans😂
I havent played a lot of comp yet, is it chosen randomly who in round 3 gets to defend? I was confused when they had to defend twice in a row.
Whichever team ends their attack round with the least amount of time left on the clock has to attack first in round three.
Unpopular Opinion: Players aren’t bad for their rank, or bad at the game cause being good is subjective to anyone’s journey and the game is widely changing so who’s good at it is always changing. The real problem is toxic players. I understand that the game isn’t fun when you’re losing, it isn’t for all of us. But maybe instead of watching your death maybe spectate. And actually watch and not scroll tiktok for 5 seconds. I go in voice chat and positively yet vulgarly tell them what they did wrong or give a suggestion of a new play and tell them that we got this! Cause being negative isn’t good for anyone cause at that point the game ain’t fun when ppl are spending 30 seconds typing when they could be playing. Positive games make for positive results, if your having fun your having fun not your having fun cause your cracked at the game and you’re diffing everyone yea it may be fun for you, but that isn’t everyone’s, so maybe give some helpful and not brain dead tips and maybe you’ll see some improvement. Even if it’s just thanking and tbaging your healers cause you won the team fight it all makes a difference in how the game is played when you are genuinely having fun
Does anyone know exactly how the -20 healing does? I mean does the penalty stop as soon as they stop getting hit or does it linger for a bit?
idea for a series teach players what areas of the map are key and what positioning is. this tank has no idea how to defend a map. in fact inmy experience most players dont know how to play defense becuase its not as somple as playing offense is.
Target priority is not hard to understand but people gets nervous for their performance and they begin with mistake after mistake, or also have tunnel vision for an annoying opponent
Didnt think I needed a Tiny Emongg in the intro to make me smile today. N i had a bad day.
Thank u emongg ❤
When i tank, the most common problem I have, is that no matter who I take, team mates seem to think that I should play like Reinhardt. It's quite frustrating.
I love the green screen and the tablet now you need the stylus and you’d be set to be a coach 😂love the content a lot .
Anyone know how he does the tablet drawing? Is there an app for it?
ALLLLLRIGHT, SO!
When i try to trade in this situation 6:02 i get absolutely destroyed in an instant
When I play tank I make moves and no one on my team ever follows up
Love the super high tech green screen coaching ❤❤❤
This is why you should turn off typed chat
I have not watched the while video yet, but that dva on defense is just walking back. that sucks soo much, it's only giving space instead of contesting it.
.....Your tanks go behind cover? Sorry my tanks get life gripped by my LW at 5% hp after saving their life then immediately hop off the platform that is keeping them safe and dive right back in before I can heal them 2 times. I do not accept that tanks go behind cover, at least not in my elo lmao.
I do as a tank lol but I also try to push with the team and create some space etc without being murdered instantly on tank.
I mean, there are classic support mistakes that I'm sure you make too. that's why you're in the same rank as the tanks who very rarely use cover. something you'll learn as you climb, assuming that's something you're working on, is how to make fewer of the classic support mistakes. as you make fewer mistakes and climb, then you'll also see tanks who make fewer of the classic tank mistakes.
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I have played a lot of silver and Tbh why no one hecking swap to Sombra or Tracer to kill the zen? Moira is enough to calm any silver Genji in general. Ana can sleep Ram ulti easily, it finaly just miss a widow to rekt the reaper.
Well it's always ez to blame other people but keep in mind, it's Not top 500 and in silver it's Counterwatch not Overwatch.
Anyway playing DPSs is basically shoot everyone showing and blame everyone when outplayed
Yeah their DPS was afraid of their own shadow the entire match, Tanks are supposed to well, tank, but a tank can’t babysit the entire team, if your getting rolled on DPS it’s most likely a you problem, you need to be playing with the tank, not telling them to go yeet themselves into a meat grinder so you can maybe get an elim on the out of position ash.
Most of the time, do you want to trade your good position to a bad one if the bad one's where your team is?
Honestly they had some decent plays for a silver, losing was indeed a team effort, it's just easy to blame tank if you dont get perfect engages due to high visibility. They where clearly tilted amd checking out at the end
I've always thought tanks are bipolar (especially Rein). Embrace the passive/agressive mental state. People who want to be more agro, really want you to flick quicker.
Ram ult is 205 seconds?! oh my
If they are able to hit an enemy, then yes. If they can't hit someone, it's shorter.
Target prioritization is a big deal for sure. Once I realized that I became a better tank player
What a swell video!
So many people don't shoot the healers -.-
Hello fellow emongg viewers im still faorly new tp youtube dpes anyone know of an app i can usee on my phone to edit clips and vids? Ive been editing them so far in tiktok with the limited amount of editting options offered through the phone but i cant help but feel theres a better way
I dont pwn a desktop btw i play on console and upload the clips through ps app to tiktok to edit
I like a free (has ads) app called Youcut. Definitely not as many features as a desktop app, but pretty decent for phones.
I like Minimongg
I had many games where every time i push up front, nobody backs me up and will keep getting focused by the whole enemy team, little by little you get more passive, Now your team is blaming the tank. Typical ovewatch player for you lol
listening to teammates especially in low ranks is so pointless, it is so much more detrimental to have team chat off than on if you're somebody who can easily tilt from toxicity
It can be said, where is reaper what is a reaper...
tanks cant tank, healers cant heal, but dps can do a lot of dps now... its going to end up like unreal tournament? all heros with same abilities with different skins?
I HATE when teammates try telling you what to do. If you are someone who likes telling your teammates how to play, let this be a lesson. EVEN IF you’re not straight up telling them the wrong thing (and if you’re a metal rank you are absolutely telling them the wrong thing don’t delude yourself) IF the player listens to your advice it’s ALWAYS going to lead to your teammates playing worse. Just shut up and focus on your own play
don't tell me what to do!
Understand your point but if someone on your team has terrible positioning and bad target priority you gotta tell them. Of course you should do it nicely but still it’s ok to communicate with your teams regardless of what rank you are
I’m not into telling people what to do (and never in QP), but I’ll gladly say “1v5 ain’t gonna work, champ” and actually something helpful “if possible, Ana or zen would be great against this Mauga/Hog” … or the classic “Moira, your 1-8 dps flanks aren’t working, healing might be a better help” … but whatever, usually its a ‘gg go next’ if your tank just likes to stand on the payload or Bap is 3000 damage to 800 heals with nothing to show for it or dps likes to fight a bob solo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@fawnleif you don’t really got to tell them anything. They got to where they are by doing what they’re doing so clearly it works well enough for them to be here. And you’re not going to be around after the ONE game you’re with them to take responsibility for the bad or at the very least short-sighted advice you give them. If they’re 1v5 and you think it’s losing you the game join them and make it 2v5 for a fight or two, see if it works. Your climbing is a function of you, and it’s not make or break over 1 loss from someone doing something that seems stupid to you
@@assimilater-quicktips When I play tank, sometimes I just need someone to tell me "hey be more mindful of your healthbar" or "stop overextending" or even "you need to push" (that one is a bit more annoying because typically when I'm told that it's because if I move any further up I will explode). Sometimes, especially with the rank reset, friendly advice could be really helpful because there are going to be people who end up in places they shouldn't be on the matchmaker, who have no idea what's going on. I very, very rarely ask anything of my teammates because I don't care enough to, but when someone or a role is dropping the ball, I ask if we could get different heroes. I never demand it or anything, I just say "Hey, [HERO NAME] could be good here to counter [HERO NAME]" or "Hey they have a Sym and a Zarya maybe DVA isn't the best choice." Sometimes people go really hard on the backseating and the yelling and make ridiculous demands, and that sucks, but I think there is a right way to give advice and instruction. I totally get it, it's frustrating to be told what to do, but for some people it could be helpful, especially if you're not telling them to do or not to do something, but instead gently explaining how they could improve.
I'd say it's more like the season of hacking. I've seen more this season then I ever have before.
baby emonggg
Im stuck on d for tank
you stuck on what??
why is emongg so cute guys
I wish my gold/plat tanks were this good.
Emongg!
i mean there not doing much. there just there.
Easily the biggest problem in ranked is crap heals trying to do dps instead of healing. Half my games our heals are under 2k in heals… they need to cut all healer damage in half
i tought ow 2 was dead
Like this comment of you think emongg is the best overwatch creator
Way better content creater than gay3
I hate this meta for tank I went from gold 5 to silver 2 on tank cuz every game I get someone who swears there a tank main and explains y I got tank diffed mean while there 5-7 with 4000+ dmg like bro you not killing anything u trashcan
he could not be killing anything because u are not putting him in a position to do so.
you didn't drop from gold 5 to silver 2 because of your teammates. you dropped from gold 5 to silver 2 because you keep making silver mistakes and aren't ready to climb further into gold/stay in gold. full stop.
it's very common to spend a little time bouncing between, in your case, silver 2 to like, gold 4. you're right on the edge of a new rank, you're still figuring out how to shed your silver mistakes and play well enough to climb further into gold. you'll have the same issue if you eventually get to the gold 2-plat 4 range. that's normal because the game changes as you move between ranks. you've already figured out what you need to do to win silver games for the most part. now you're in the process of learning how to win gold games consistently. you're going to struggle for a bit, and that's okay. you will struggle less and for a shorter period of time when you stay focused purely on yourself and your mistakes, though.
you dont have to play the role to understand the game
also here's the thing a lot of players don't get, sometimes a loss is no one's fault, sure there's probably things to work on but in some matches a team is just going to be better overall or have better comms, it's not always so cut and dry to blame the tank, dps, or support, there are times where that can be the case but also it's more likely that your team just got out played. people just don't wanna feel like it's their fault so they put blame on someone else even if it's no ones fault and everyone played ok
ugh emongg is so hot-
Ooh I'm early :]
3 mins in and im frustrated w this kid too
Man why is this guy silver, but I’m fucking bronze and trying to play my ass off with monkey. I swear I just get bad dps players that have 0 target priority and don’t know how or when to commit to a dive/strike attack. Honestly makes playing completely miserable and is the hardest season to break the bronze barrier
You're in bronze, people don't know how to capitalise with the dive playstyle, you need to play other tanks and when you climb switch back to Winston
you're in bronze. neither you nor your teammates know how to play dive. stop trying to force a play style that is fundamentally incompatible with your rank and current skill level and focus on enabling your team. dive requires a high level of teamwork and the mechanical skills to properly time dives and following up on your teammates. these skills do not exist in bronze.
think about it like this: currently, you're in bronze. your first goal is to get to silver. the best way to do that is to play like someone in high silver or gold. don't try to force strats or team comps you see in top 500 games. just play like you deserve silver or gold by not making the most common mistakes made by bronze and low silver players. you don't need to overcomplicate it. just focus on making fewer mistakes, and the way to do that is by first identifying your biggest or most common mistakes.
I'm not about to say "don't play Winston" because I don't think that's good advice. I climbed from gold 2 to diamond 3 in a single season primarily as Mercy (5x the hours on her in ranked than my next most played hero). I'm a firm believer in playing who you want to play and that you can be successful with any hero you want. but you absolutely need to focus on your own bad plays and your mistakes. working on having realistic and reasonable expectations of your teammates sounds like it would be a great first step for you.
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Alright SO! I love these videos, but I’d be in favor of fewer OT games. Watching the same dude make the same mistakes for 30 minutes may be a little much. I dunno. Maybe I’m alone. It’s fine. I just don’t make it to the end usually.
longer videos are better for content reasons. you also don't have to watch these in one sitting.
Fix your mic dude