@@Dummymosa You wanna try aiming that healing from 35m in 3 aggressive teammates? It's like saying Ana healing is easy since the space is open and all teammates are in los. Being in los is one thing, you also need to not be behind shields and behind other teammates that are missing like 1 hp compared to you BEING 1 hp. Guess who will my heals go to if that's the case lol.
@@deanZAbean Good lifeweavers are the most wholesome and amazing people I've met, the amount of times I meet them is low but the pulls are top notch. Appreciate you both as a Zarya/D.va/Winton, Genji/Ashe and Ana/Brigitte player. LW is best friends with Bob.
It's amazing how much damage both teams are doing and yet nothing is dying and the cart is completely stuck in one spot. These long ult fights make me want to scream for something to happen.
he was doing pretty bad most of the game because he focused tank too much. its fine to pressure rein but if you have an orisa just let them focus on the tank trade while you focus on squishy targets.
@@abacusite nah he’s easy at almost any rank lol he also has a 1 combo that’s why you see alot of junk 1 tricks the higher you place he’s easy to climb with because he requires no skill my friend that placed top 500 even has a fully blacked out reticle on junk rat and still manages to place on him bruh trust me
If the enemy had a sniper hero, this person would be perma dead. The positioning needs some serious work (high ground!), as well as decision making and general awareness. It's also easy to see how the supports have such high stats. The target priority is not very good and most times they shoot at someone but don't finish the kill
@@ThaVipaa Yeah when my team INSISTS on blowing all their dps into the enemy tank and the enemy tank won't die, then Zen orb is your best bet. You can't force your team to attack easier to kill targets, but if they keep doing the same dumb thing, then help them actually get that kill. There's no point playing healbot for a team that won't accomplish anything no matter how much you heal them, so pick the dps support option and help them overwhelm the enemy tank.
IMO the problem was spending ALL that time and energy and 80% of it was just going into the enemy tank and doing literally nothing. Of course both teams have high damage and healing when they are both shooting at the big bullet sponges who can easily get healed back up. You'd think at some point though they'd recognize that it's a completely losing strat and try to find a way to get around the tank and just kill the backline (or at least harass them enough that they can't both protect themselves AND keep healing the tank.)
This game is SO GOLD. You have like 1 or two people carrying and then you have people like this DPS guy who pretty much is just spectating, but will still brag about his stats.
That is why you shouldn't care about stats, the only important stat is deaths. Characters like Moira pump out stats like there's no tomorrow because they tickle everyone on the enemy team for 10 damage every few seconds and half their healing is just self-healing, without any context stats mean nothing. You could have the best stats in the game, but if you die first every fight then your team will lose the game.
In my experience the only stats that seems to have any bearing on the result of a game are deaths and how much damage the supports do. I’ve recently noticed a trend where the supports on the winning team usually have significantly higher damage than the team that loses. Even if one team’s tank or DPS do more than double the damage of the enemy tank/dps, often as not this has no bearing on the outcome whatsoever. Moreover, it seems often to be the case that the supports with the most healing are on the losing team. Personally I have definitely noticed when I play support that the more healing I do as a ratio to damage, the more likely I am to lose. In games where I have roughly equal healing and damage I almost always win, but if my healing is significantly higher than my damage it’s pretty much guaranteed that I lose. As for deaths, if one team has a player with significantly more deaths than the other, they always lose, with very few exceptions. If a team as a whole has a few more deaths each than their opponents they will probably lose but it doesn’t seem to be such a hard and fast rule. I’ve won plenty of games where my team lost more team fights than we won, simply because our team controlled space better so that we got more objective progress even when we lost a fight than the enemy did even though they won.
Stats are definitely misleading. High damage but because you're basically only shooting the tank that is being outhealed by both supports? You're feeding the support ult at that point. High healing but it's because the team keeps getting so much damage that the keep up is a struggle? That's a red flag on how the teamfight is going.
@@InceyWincey youre right that the supports on the winning team have more damage usually, but your reasoning is backwards. they usually have more damage because they dont need to spend as much time healing, because their team is TAKING less damage.
On the attack phase, they need to realize that they aren't killing the Rein when they have a pocket like that even when they are in turret form. Prioritize something else. Even if you don't kill someone like Mercy, they still have to get out of LOS and remove themselves from the fight. That brief amount of time is enough for a DPS to get taken down.
That bastion did so much damage to the tank just for it to all be healed away. So many times their junk or someone else was out of position and he held his mode turret focused on the rein shield lol. Gold
emongg as soon as you said “let’s see what happens” at the beginning and the replay fov was bugged out, I immediately thought of when flats said every time that bug happens it’s hands down the most cursed shit ever
As a reaper main, never be afraid of the blossom in your face if you’re a fellow reaper, a torb (with overload), bastion in minigun mode, characters like that. It sucks but is what it is
the only time they make progress is when they target the healers. 10 mins on first point shooting rein who gets low > gets gripped/puts shield up > back to full > repeat. the high damage isn't a good thing.
Bastion getting hard carried by his tank and support for the entire match just about, wild how well they played. Do agree though, was a good match to watch, chaos galore.
Once bastion he just kept front lining when he had so many chances for a cheeky flank to turn the fights quicker as a bastion main it hurts a bit they lost.. it was so good to watch tho
Yeah, you need to think when you ult with bastion. Always manually click each barrage and use the first attack to scare them and 2 & 3 to catch them lacking 🤨😩💦
Long team fights always have. Dps not getting final blows. Healers going full heals no dps and tank tanking also no final blows. For most of the game. Same for opposing team as even as it gets for the match maker.
I was like thats insane dmg on ashe... *watches* hoooow they are not hitting anything. I already know stats dont matter but this is an eyeopening example
Isnt the guy in this video using an aimbot, this doesnt look like console snaps it even is snapping on the wrong targets through the payload at certain points...like its center mass snapping fairly consistently when he can hold his crosshair close enough to the target.
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Imagine not being able to hit the broad side of a barn, yet still somehow go 4 rounds and be in position to win - only to then throw by not pressing Q before letting the enemy get a respawn advantage they had no reason to achieve... yep, that's Gold.
And this is a gold game... I am in bronze since last season while playing better than those dps players... I hoped Reinhardt got endorsement cause he saved his team so many times he deserve to win vs this orisa.
@@lonzoball5433 not sure who that is, but while its true that golds are better than bronze, they still make fundamental mistakes with positioning, cooldown/ult usage, understanding matchups, and objective capturing. its basically unstructured chaos until you get to high plat, which was when i noticed the games started to actually have some semblance of teamplay.
Just skill issue. Everyone can spam damage and their enemy heals up and then you spam again, rinse repeat and everybody gets damage. Sometimes people don't understand if that was a master or GM hitscan Ashe on that first point highground with 5-8s of free time. Those 3 people be dead already.
Classic gold DPS, i'm sure he complained about their team and why they weren't getting healed. I'd like to send you a vid but idk hard to care about OW these days. Gold games just feel like TDM.
Both Lifeweavers were putting in major work
thanks for appreciating us
TH-cam users when a lifeweaver spams right click autolock on heals 35m away from every team fight
@@Dummymosastill can't deny they were putting some work there.
@@Dummymosa You wanna try aiming that healing from 35m in 3 aggressive teammates? It's like saying Ana healing is easy since the space is open and all teammates are in los. Being in los is one thing, you also need to not be behind shields and behind other teammates that are missing like 1 hp compared to you BEING 1 hp. Guess who will my heals go to if that's the case lol.
@@deanZAbean Good lifeweavers are the most wholesome and amazing people I've met, the amount of times I meet them is low but the pulls are top notch. Appreciate you both as a Zarya/D.va/Winton, Genji/Ashe and Ana/Brigitte player. LW is best friends with Bob.
It's amazing how much damage both teams are doing and yet nothing is dying and the cart is completely stuck in one spot. These long ult fights make me want to scream for something to happen.
Lifeweaver in metal ranks moment lmao
@@newtonthenewt1400metal players having negative target priority moment
@cooltwittertag that too 🤣
@@cooltwittertagbruh yall making fun of them. Like bro what do u expect from gold players ? Grandmaster plays?
@@walker1686 get gud
Bro was holding on to that Ult like it owed him money.
LMAOOOO
He was refusing to ult unless he was in full cover
why was a glued to my computer screen like I was watching the season finale of my favorite tv show?
This just proves to me it’s impossible to not get value on bastion regardless how bad you play
he was doing pretty bad most of the game because he focused tank too much. its fine to pressure rein but if you have an orisa just let them focus on the tank trade while you focus on squishy targets.
Bastion takes no skill tbh lol like junk rat
@@EnvysWRLDlol. Junk is only easy when your opponents are brain dead.
@@abacusite nah he’s easy at almost any rank lol he also has a 1 combo that’s why you see alot of junk 1 tricks the higher you place he’s easy to climb with because he requires no skill my friend that placed top 500 even has a fully blacked out reticle on junk rat and still manages to place on him bruh trust me
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I love how the Rein saw an Orisa and Bastion on the other team and still went with It's Hammer time.
And he managed to win eventually. What a chad
If the enemy had a sniper hero, this person would be perma dead. The positioning needs some serious work (high ground!), as well as decision making and general awareness. It's also easy to see how the supports have such high stats. The target priority is not very good and most times they shoot at someone but don't finish the kill
Or their own Bastion with that Mercy pocket to obliterate this Bastion
also ana nades or zen discord would have gotten so much value on this matchup
@@ThaVipaa Yeah when my team INSISTS on blowing all their dps into the enemy tank and the enemy tank won't die, then Zen orb is your best bet. You can't force your team to attack easier to kill targets, but if they keep doing the same dumb thing, then help them actually get that kill. There's no point playing healbot for a team that won't accomplish anything no matter how much you heal them, so pick the dps support option and help them overwhelm the enemy tank.
Well.... It would be a gold sniper .. and you saw how well this guy did on ash lmao
IMO the problem was spending ALL that time and energy and 80% of it was just going into the enemy tank and doing literally nothing. Of course both teams have high damage and healing when they are both shooting at the big bullet sponges who can easily get healed back up. You'd think at some point though they'd recognize that it's a completely losing strat and try to find a way to get around the tank and just kill the backline (or at least harass them enough that they can't both protect themselves AND keep healing the tank.)
This game plays out like one of those dreams where you can’t quite run. It looks like he’s desperately trying to aim but he just can’t hit the target
This game is SO GOLD. You have like 1 or two people carrying and then you have people like this DPS guy who pretty much is just spectating, but will still brag about his stats.
Always wondered about some of the statistics this game records. Feels like dps and healing become grossly inflated from some ults.
That is why you shouldn't care about stats, the only important stat is deaths. Characters like Moira pump out stats like there's no tomorrow because they tickle everyone on the enemy team for 10 damage every few seconds and half their healing is just self-healing, without any context stats mean nothing. You could have the best stats in the game, but if you die first every fight then your team will lose the game.
In my experience the only stats that seems to have any bearing on the result of a game are deaths and how much damage the supports do. I’ve recently noticed a trend where the supports on the winning team usually have significantly higher damage than the team that loses.
Even if one team’s tank or DPS do more than double the damage of the enemy tank/dps, often as not this has no bearing on the outcome whatsoever.
Moreover, it seems often to be the case that the supports with the most healing are on the losing team.
Personally I have definitely noticed when I play support that the more healing I do as a ratio to damage, the more likely I am to lose. In games where I have roughly equal healing and damage I almost always win, but if my healing is significantly higher than my damage it’s pretty much guaranteed that I lose.
As for deaths, if one team has a player with significantly more deaths than the other, they always lose, with very few exceptions. If a team as a whole has a few more deaths each than their opponents they will probably lose but it doesn’t seem to be such a hard and fast rule. I’ve won plenty of games where my team lost more team fights than we won, simply because our team controlled space better so that we got more objective progress even when we lost a fight than the enemy did even though they won.
@@InceyWinceyhoping they completely kill supports next season
Stats are definitely misleading. High damage but because you're basically only shooting the tank that is being outhealed by both supports? You're feeding the support ult at that point. High healing but it's because the team keeps getting so much damage that the keep up is a struggle? That's a red flag on how the teamfight is going.
@@InceyWincey youre right that the supports on the winning team have more damage usually, but your reasoning is backwards. they usually have more damage because they dont need to spend as much time healing, because their team is TAKING less damage.
Just using the Bastion ult on the LW tree is probably more valuable than trying to kill anyone with it.
This is how 99% of my gold games go. So much damage output, so much going on, yet nothing happens
On the attack phase, they need to realize that they aren't killing the Rein when they have a pocket like that even when they are in turret form. Prioritize something else. Even if you don't kill someone like Mercy, they still have to get out of LOS and remove themselves from the fight. That brief amount of time is enough for a DPS to get taken down.
That lifeweaver needs a raise for those overtimes
That bastion did so much damage to the tank just for it to all be healed away. So many times their junk or someone else was out of position and he held his mode turret focused on the rein shield lol. Gold
this is one of those games where so much happens but also nothing happens
This ending hurt me so much. Oh no.
This was one of the most exciting and intense matches I've ever seen. The fights went on for so long!
So these are the DPS players in my lobby that can't kill anything
Pumping 29000 dmg into tank
emongg as soon as you said “let’s see what happens” at the beginning and the replay fov was bugged out, I immediately thought of when flats said every time that bug happens it’s hands down the most cursed shit ever
As a reaper main, never be afraid of the blossom in your face if you’re a fellow reaper, a torb (with overload), bastion in minigun mode, characters like that. It sucks but is what it is
This whole match looks like it was a blast for everyone. Sweat. Occasional elim. Ult to ult. Non stop action. Let’s make it a movie actually.
the only time they make progress is when they target the healers. 10 mins on first point shooting rein who gets low > gets gripped/puts shield up > back to full > repeat. the high damage isn't a good thing.
Lifeweaver carrying the game. How many saves there was for both teams again?
I love spectating games like this, one big never-ending team fight 😆
Actually an insane game to watch. That rein was a total gigachad.
The overtime close hold was great didn't expect that to work in gold
my guess is he plays without sound - he just didnt react to anything
From 14 minutes to 18 was such an emotional roller coaster
22:20, just HOW??
bastion let them take that space. He could've denied it with his ult.
This guy not turretting anything but rein is painful
Bastion getting hard carried by his tank and support for the entire match just about, wild how well they played.
Do agree though, was a good match to watch, chaos galore.
Does no one shoot at supports?
the one thing i miss about being gold in dps was the amount of healbot supports there were lol
it’s nice having ow creators being from where you are. maybe that means i can do this in the future.
Reaper didn't have wraith and Moira didn't have fade, perfect ult opportunity
Also the only one who had the capacity to stun bastion out of their ultimate was out of combat
Once bastion he just kept front lining when he had so many chances for a cheeky flank to turn the fights quicker as a bastion main it hurts a bit they lost.. it was so good to watch tho
on offense first point no one attempted to cap that second floor high ground or even flank from rightside all just gunning down the main
That whole game was f'ing chaos.
He's switching targets right before they die. I don't get it. Focus supporter, kill them, go for tank or DPS without healer.
“What in the Ult was that??” 😂
man bad aim is so common
Nobody died because nobody was going off angle. Everybody was just fighting on main
As a support main, I know I've lost when this is all my team does. Especially if were attacking on Blizzard World or Mecha base
I dont know if its a good tactic, but bastions ult is the kind of ult im using immediately when I get it, sometimes even without taking cover before.
Yeah, you need to think when you ult with bastion. Always manually click each barrage and use the first attack to scare them and 2 & 3 to catch them lacking 🤨😩💦
WHATTTT?!?!? That was a slugfest, what an ending holy smokes lol
okay but these lifeweavers were so good
I just got a Fallout 76 ad on an Emongg video, this can't be a coincidence
This video is longer than any of my games have ever been 😭
Was it easier to have this kinda round in ow 1? Or like significantly easier?
why did he not ult when the wifeleaver gripped him that last time ???!?!?!?!? he was safe and totally gotten them to c9
Long team fights always have. Dps not getting final blows. Healers going full heals no dps and tank tanking also no final blows. For most of the game. Same for opposing team as even as it gets for the match maker.
Glad to see u won that game u jumped in mid vod😎
Junkrat was going after this person because they are an easy target: Lack of capacity to get elims, bad positioning = Gonna get punnished
That was tragic
This dude was a silver dps at best.
Not what I saw. a very evenly matched mid gold game, the rank and skill level of everyone in the lobby. Good job overwatch matchmaker.
@@RayJames-mk3yqSoo many eliminations were missed because of sluggish aim. The aim might even be a bigger problem than the positioning here.
@@mlgtactics9911you cant say that when this dps player started with ashe and didnt take the high ground thats just inexcusable
That Reinhardt is Hadi in training....
So this is what gold looks like now
Idk why I’m so mad about him not using his ult 😭
how 90% of my ranked games go
Lol literally what gold lobbies feel like
Chaos
Not a great game, but a great entertainment
that was one of the craz ..st ive ever seen on ow 2
Damn I wish I could get tips like this
I dont think he ever shot anything else as bastion than rein
is it good or bad if my top kill game was 138 kills?
The further distance, damage drop off on the bastion. Plus the bullet spread mean less kill potential. Just spam it! 😂
The most gold 3 game I've ever seen
The problem is not damage its focus everyone needs to focus one target simultaneously
This was sweatier than ow league
This is why people need to look at elims and not dmg.
Had a tank go 2 ND 12 with 15000 dmg and my supports were flaming saying he's carrying. Mind you this is masters and he only hits the jq
USE THE DAMN ULT!!!
this match was weird!45 minute team fight in 24 minutes game! even sapce and time bends!
I think they lost cause he didn’t use ult at the end
This is the worst gold I’ve ever seen
I was like thats insane dmg on ashe... *watches* hoooow they are not hitting anything. I already know stats dont matter but this is an eyeopening example
Feels like me on ash always 1 percent off bobby boi 😢
WHY DID THEY NOT ULT!?
Why is my silver match much harder than this one.
ALRIGHT SO!!!
Bruh they could've won that if he had ulted after the moira AND reaper fade...
Isnt the guy in this video using an aimbot, this doesnt look like console snaps it even is snapping on the wrong targets through the payload at certain points...like its center mass snapping fairly consistently when he can hold his crosshair close enough to the target.
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this guy ain't noway Gold 4
ooof throwing the game at the end because he wanted to do poke damage with bastion's sentry form instead of ulting
What an exciting match! I can't believe the Bastion 's team lost that. Do you have any idea o how that heppened at the end? I mean, they had it!
was hoping he was going to clutch. Looked like it untill the sim died. He back away doing negative damage to rien shield 😢 holding alt😢
This gold player has better aim than the average Diamond player wtf
Did we watch the same video
@@Lh0ul1 Nah have you seen Diamond player aim it's terrible
Imagine not being able to hit the broad side of a barn, yet still somehow go 4 rounds and be in position to win - only to then throw by not pressing Q before letting the enemy get a respawn advantage they had no reason to achieve... yep, that's Gold.
And this is a gold game... I am in bronze since last season while playing better than those dps players... I hoped Reinhardt got endorsement cause he saved his team so many times he deserve to win vs this orisa.
This Ranked system is garbage dude lol
Yea Rein was an absolute gigachad in that game.
bronze silver and gold are essentially all the same elo so you're not wrong, you might play better.
@@neilmallick20Jay3 has proved Golds are way better than Bronze😂
@@lonzoball5433 not sure who that is, but while its true that golds are better than bronze, they still make fundamental mistakes with positioning, cooldown/ult usage, understanding matchups, and objective capturing. its basically unstructured chaos until you get to high plat, which was when i noticed the games started to actually have some semblance of teamplay.
I woulda dropped 60k damage this game
A bronze bastion can compete , hes so easy to use
29k damage. Majority of that is gonna be shield or mitigated and meaningless. Comment before watching, let’s see if I’m right.
100% agree
Person
God life weaver is the worst, let things die
Just skill issue. Everyone can spam damage and their enemy heals up and then you spam again, rinse repeat and everybody gets damage.
Sometimes people don't understand if that was a master or GM hitscan Ashe on that first point highground with 5-8s of free time. Those 3 people be dead already.
Pc players who think aim assist is aim bot, are the pc players with trash aim. It’s not that serious.
Classic gold DPS, i'm sure he complained about their team and why they weren't getting healed. I'd like to send you a vid but idk hard to care about OW these days. Gold games just feel like TDM.