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Elder Scrolls Lore: Ch.25 - Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak
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The son of a Windhelm Jarl, Ulfric was chosen to study with the Greybeards at High Hrothgar from a very early age, and would spend most of the next decade developing the awesome power of his Thu'um. It was expected that Ulfric would himself become a Greybeard one day, if it were not for the Great War of the fourth Era.
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I gotta hand it to Bethesda;
They made a fictional war that gets tons of people immersed to the point of debating in the comments as if they are real citizens of Tamriel.
Now THAT is good story writing!
+Xzener Agreed.
+Xzener Damn right.
True that
+Xzener because to be fair, the civil war is so open-ended, lore-wise. the stormcloaks offer a compelling case, as do the imperials. i do hope it gets resolved in elder scrolls 6, wherever the story takes place.
+Xzener If ESO would've had factions based on actual appeal and persuasive agendas, instead of being based on race, I might've bought it.
Imagined, Ulfric murder the High King! The Guard would arrest him immediately and then!
Ulfric paid his 1000 gold bounty
e21big
Haha
I’m with the guild, how about that? (635 gold)
Ulfric Stormcloak: I'm the jarls thane.
yet nothing meaning the guard seen it as an honour duel
*Ulfric shoots guard in knee* "HA!"
Ulfric's treatment of the dark elves is nothing compared to the way the
dark elves treated the argonians and khajiit in Morrowind.
And even nords....
But it took a very long time
Yeah walk as an argonian in raven rock to see how nice they are
Yeah walk as an argonian in raven rock to see how nice they are
Sorry i forgot its not racism when the dunmer do it
Everyone must agree that Nazeem should be the High King.
He can see all fo Skyrim from the Cloud District.
to bad that in my game he got killed by a random vampire atack :(
Fingers the guards glitched out in my game and went on a rampage nazeem was one of their first victims
Fingers Vampires don't spawn in interior cells
Shame, Nazeem was "mysteriously" murdered in his sleep in my game...
InsertGoodNameHere instead kill his wife and ransack his farm make him suffer
Dude... this voice actor.......
He's bloody amazing.
Umm you do realize it is just a voice modifier if you look in the descrption it take you to their facebook page and you can see its just a voice chnager
+The Red Falcon Lmao what?? If you actually click on the link for the narration, it tells you that it's someone from AEVoices.
No, it's not. He's a professional voice actor.
Ikr, his voice is straight up MEANT to be the voice of a villain, of a devious man.
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He is great. I'd love to hear more of this mans voice.
FaceUnreality Agreed! His voice definitely drew me into the lore.
Your voice ShoddyCast is very relaxing,while this voice helps you immerse
Although this voice is really good, defo better than yours, it'll be very hard getting used to it... :/
While I do enjoy the new narrator, I much prefer your voice in the ESL videos. I'll watch and support regardless, however. This series is too great not to.
I never thought about that, dragons can sense the thuum in men so Alduin probably attacked Helgan because he could feel a strong thuum presence in the area because of ulfrics developed thuum and the you being the dragon born. I always thought it was just a coincidence.
Big Boss no. Alduin did attack Helgen and resurrected Sahloknir in the first Blades mission, when you kill Sahloknir. But it was Alduin attacking Helgen in the first place.
TheJLLNinja wow didnt know
He's actually portraying the young part of Talos; when he was able to shout and fight. While General Tullius shows more of the older Tiber Septim; wanting to unite Tamriel under one banner. The writers of this story are genius.
Oh, wow that was inspired if they planned it.
عبدالله رويشد Tullius wanted nothing to do with this. he's only there because he IS an actual puppet of the Thalmor. Ulfric, Ulfric just wants the freedom of worship back. After the Civil War he begins to make repairs to Skyrim and after that he'll begin a conquest to take more land from the Dominion. It's very likely he'd side with Hammerfell, and it's also likely he'd take High Rock, it's not dumb to think that maybe he'd also bring back Orsinium under the promise that as long as it remained open there'd be no raids. After that, The Dominion will be scared. Because in Skyrim you can already see the Ebonheart Pact starting to reform with the Argonians and Nords. If the elves stopped being picky we'd have the Ebonheart Pact and the Daggerfall Covenant teaming up. those lands fighting the dominion means the Khajiit and Bosmer could only trade with eachother and the summerset isles. Now see, the problem here with that is that the Altmer refuse to help anyone, and the Khajiit and Bosmer hate eachother. It's very likely that they'd just fall in line partly and have many of their people join a different faction or remain neutral. that only leaves the summerset isles, home of the Thalmor, against the rest of Tamriel. If they fight they die. But they're smarter than that. they'll probably surrender. boom. Ulfric unites Tamriel.
He isnt a puppet of the thalmor. He plans to oppose the almeri dominion when the Empire has some of its power back.
If only the lore writers and the lead game writers were the same mind.... Skyrim writing was terrible, but the lore is quite satisfying.
@@theunclecappy4846 Ulfric is actually a puppet of the Thalmor, if you read the Thalmor Dossier on Ulfric they refer to him as an agent.
Lore Question of the Day:
Ulfric Stormcloak is one of the most controversial figures to ever walk Tamriel. A true man of conviction. He speaks of freedom, yet limits the freedoms of those who are not Nords via segregation. Ulfric claims to fight to restore Talos worship, yet others say he really only fights for himself. What do you think of Ulfric Stormcloak, the man?
He's selfish, and short sighted. He is only weakening the Empire, it doesn't even matter if his 'cause' is just or right, it's stupid that he wants to fight the Elves, but weakens the Empire at the same time. Skyrim is powerless once the Elves take control of Cyrodiil.
"He speaks of freedom, yet limits the freedoms of those who are not Nords via segregation."
That's just not true. His father housed the Dunmer refugees, and Ulfric hasn't kicked them out of his city. Which he could.
Damn I hate imperial sheeple constantly trying to make Ulfric look bad.
Freaking Tullius is a general no less and openly states he doesn't understand Nords. How is he supposed to fight a people he doesn't understand?
I believe him to be a honorary man who fights along his men on the battlefield and does all he can to help his kinsman. he is a racist, yes, but that is mostly from a strong hatred towards high elves. that grew to a hatred for all non human races as he believed them to be equally evil. this is a natural evolution of thought as hatred can twist all in many strange ways. even the Dragonborn himself. but ask yourself this: if he is as unreasonable as they say, why does he let a high-elf he met once before become a stormcloack? and here's a question to you, shoddycast. what to you think of Ulfric?
Well to be honest, I never chose the Stormcloak side in the game ever. I've always thought he was kind of a racist who didn't understand that he wasn't the only one who hated the Thalmor. And the Imperials didn't care who worshiped what divine, but just followed the Imperial laws.
firstoftheoutcast
Racist this and racist that. He'd string the Dunmer up a tree or make them work his fields if he was a racist..
Dunmer live in his city and complain, that's all.
People be saying how the Aldmeri Dominion army can invade Skyrim, I'm here picturing a bunch of high elves spamming jump to climb the western mountains and get into the province lol xD
ThePieMan305 That is just wishful thinking on the elf fans part. Skyrim is surrounded by mountains on all sides except for the north where it is bordered by freezing seas. To invade Skyrim would be a monumental task. Even if you do manage to get an invading army into skyrim that army is then going to have to content with not only the elements (coldest province on the continent) the rugged terrain, and the nords themselves who are a hardened race of warriors who will fight you to the death.
watchinginaz Plus its not worth it. Skyrim has nothing great that people could want other than land.
plus we can set them on fire with the Storm Call shout and ask Odahviing for help hell the Dominion loses to an sigle person heuheuheu
+General Decianus Good luck convincing the Imperials to let you use their lands and ports to move an invading army though.
Just a request like that alone can be cause of another Great War
General Decianus Anyone that knows tactics and how to read a map knows that letting the Dominion take over Skyrim is a terrible idea.
Mainly because it allows your enemy to get *another* foothold on one of your fronts and cuts you off from _any_ possibility of relieve/reinforcement to High Rock. Thus, you would lose two provinces in one fell swoop.
Ulfric's "I fight because I must" speech and Galmar's speech before the Battle for Whiterun get me emotional. While literally nothing else can.
I really like how fleshed out Ulfric is as a character, although the lack of family beyond his briefly mentioned father is odd. In history, he is most comparable to Robert the Bruce of Scotland who was also branded a criminal after killing a rival for kingship (although Robert did so far more dishonorably). As a character he has done things that are understandable, even if controversial. He has inclinations we in the modern world might consider backwards, such as racism, but it's hard to argue that he is not a man of his times and that he would not make a good High King. All hail Ulfric Stormcloak!
in ESO he has relative who is thane of windhelm
i find racism to be a lot less big of a deal in a world where different races have different afterlives that are all objectively real, different patron gods, are of different species entirely rather than different genetic variations, etc
Ulfric is one of my favorite characters out of Skyrim, closely tied with both Parthanaax and Cicero. I honestly believe he has some very, very good points, and between the Empire or Ulfric, I'd rather choose Ulfric every time.
1) Racism: Yes, but Tullius displays it too, and in a rather grand fashion. He outright disrespects nearly every Nord tradition while in Skyrim, even though he's basically running it through his puppet Queen (anyone who believes she's still in charge is a fool imo). And while that doesn't excuse Ulfric's own seen racism towards both Dunmer and Argonians, we can excuse a good number of his actions through some basic facts. The Dunmer are leeches to the city, and do very little, if anything, for the Nords and Windhelm itself. The Nords believe that you need to prove yourself with action, not demands; if the Dunmer actually did prove their worth and aided the city like every other inhabitant (such as the High Elf woman, for example), they'd be respected a whole lot more, and their situation would have no doubt improved. And since half the city IS Dunmer, letting Argonians from the docks inside seems like inviting even more war to Ulfric's doorstep. Those two races hate each other even more than the Dunmer and Nords do within Windhelm. IMO, Ulfric's actions could be and probably is racist, but it's also smart and makes sense in particular to every other Nord city out there.
2) Thalmor connections: The paper that accuses Ulfric of being a possible agent or asset to the Thalmor also claims that he's no longer willing to cooperate. I believe this most likely ties back to Ulfric's time with torture. Considering the Thalmor's talents for magic, and their extreme torture techniques, it's not far out to say that they might employ hypnotism and sleeper agent tactics with their prisoners, possibly releasing them back into enemy ranks to subvert their own people. This would be the only logical way Ulfric would become an agent or asset to the Thalmor, especially considering his very real deep hatred for them, a hatred that spurned him to cause this civil war in the first place (playing into the Thalmor's hands, true, but with the ultimate goal of defying them by worshiping Talos, a thing the Thalmor cannot abide by at all). But obviously something happened to his conditioning, since the paper also implies that approaching Ulfric further is extremely dangerous. Maybe Ulfric broke his conditioning, or maybe it's on the verge of breaking. Either way, it's very unlikely he'll remain under control when he's (apparently) so far from Thalmor contact to maintain the connection.
More to the point, Tullius already *is* under Thalmor control, so deciding between the two on this topic is also pretty moot.
3) Ulfric has a very, very good point about the Empire. The Empire, which had Dragonborn emperors and where the elite Blades sacrificed themselves freely to guard and care for them, doesn't care that a Dragonborn has shown up in Skyrim, that the Thalmor all but murdered every last one of the Blades, and has decided to try and murder the last Dragonborn as well. The Empire is NOT the same Empire we fought for and loved in Oblivion. It's a broken, crushed victim under the boot of the Thalmor, doing whatever it can to not upset those surly high elves that had conquered them. More to the point, TALOS FOUNDED THE SEPTIM EMPIRE. They gave up the worship of one of their most hailed and famous emperors to the Thalmor? Without protest? Even speaking his name is a crime! Not only should Ulfric be pissed, but a fair amount of Imperials should be pissed, too. It's not just about religious freedom imo, but likely patriotism as well.
4) The duel: He won fair and square. Yes, he used the Voice, and yes, that breaks his vows with the Graybeards (which Ulfric himself acknowledges, in a way), but he still won. By Nord tradition, he won, period. Tullis doesn't respect Nord law, but it's still fair law, and technically the crown should have moved heads, and would have at any other time period where the Thalmor weren't in control.
5) When you win with an Empire victory, Ulfric and his men are slain, Elisif keeps her crown and everyone goes home. It's anticlimactic. In a Stormcloak victory, on the other hand, Ulfric only chooses to kill Tullis. He does not relish killing anyone else. He also doesn't kill Elisif, and more to the point, he doesn't take the crown he's (fairly) earned by force. Instead, he lets her keep it and tells her it'll be set to a vote by the Jarls. Yes, he's been systematically replacing them with Stormcloak fans throughout the war (something that happens under Empire rule as well), but it's the thought that counts. Ulfric is smart enough to know a fair voting is much better for Skyrim than a brutal massacre after all the war that's been had. IMO, Ulfric holds Skyrim's future in a much better light than Elisif, and would prove a much stronger ruler, who would no doubt unite the Nords and gain them the independence they sorely deserve, in order to worship who they want.
It's not a perfect win though by any stretch of the imagination. There's the question of the racism (which is bad under both sides), the possible ties to the Thalmor (which are weaker under Ulfric but possibly still present), and the idea of removing Balgruuf from Whiterun. Honestly, betraying the guy who freely helps you throughout the storyline and seems to be only competant Jarl in all of Skyrim really... stings a bit. Sorry, Balgruuf. :(
Also,read the book 'Dunmer of Skyrim' and the reason the Argonians work on the dock is because they are the only ones capable of it.
thijs piggelen
Yeah, and it seems like a pretty racist argument to say that the Argonians are the only ones capable of working the docks. That's like saying Mexican Americans are the only ones capable of mowing the White House lawn.
+Bacon Tree well maybe if the nords would give the God Damn Dunmer a chance they might help not saying they will or won't but still the nords still treat them like shit Ulfric won't even give them the time of day and maybe if Ulfric would listen and help them maybe they would help the nords but still there not giving anything to the Storm Cloaks because it's not there war
And I know I screwed up with the English
I mean I think he's pretty racist but still he kinda does have a good message (if it wasn't for the racism) but still the court Mage in solitude said that Toryg or however you spell it she said that he respected Ulfric enough that if he would have asked Toryg he would've left the Empire
People forget that Ulfric didn't make himself High King of Skyrim after the war. He called the King's Moot and the Jarls voted for a new Jarl. But we don't know who that is because Elder Scrolls 6 isn't out.
That's the Stormcloaks outcome though.
+Dis Isabucket Hammerfell beat Aldmeri all by itself. And you forget that Skyrim is the province that conquered all of Tamriel in the first place. Skyrim can win.
Ulfric Stormcloak AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Christian Cristof useless comment is useless
Ulfric Stormcloak Thanks.
Ulfric is probably my all time favourite character in Skyrim.
Thijs van Piggelen I honestly don't know why I like him so much. I think it's mainly because of the amazing speech he makes about why he's fighting for the war and what he stands for. Plus I love his voice.
Elisif's no better. She's piggybacking on her husband's position. She's never even once set foot on a battlefield. If Ulfric was only in this for political gain, he wouldn't risk his own life in open combat. He's right there, leading the charge, in the Battle of Solitude. Where's Elisif? Hiding behind General Tullius and the rest of the Thalmor's lap dogs.
Thijs van Piggelen According to Skyrim's traditions, the winner of a duel to the death against the High King becomes the new High King. Ulfric won fair and square, and Elisif's being nothing but a sore loser.
Brian Sanders I agree.
Thijs van Piggelen He didn't "murder" the High King. Torygg accepted Ulfric's challenge and lost.
In my gamer opinion, Akatosh himself saved the two dragon born warriors from execution. That is why I will forever side with Ulfic. The Gods wanted him to rule.
But ulfric isn’t a Dragonborn he’s just a guy who can use the voice
Is this guy for hire, because I want him to follow me around narrating my life.
the morgan freeman of white people
Ulfric is High King by right. Now before I continue, let me just say - I am not alleging myself with either particular side of the civil war. I'm just stating facts. Facts that you can't ignore regardless of your personal opinion of Ulfric or the Stormcloaks.
So let's begin; In the ancient times, Nordic custom was that one man can challenge another to an honorable duel. If both men agreed, they can meet up and fight. The first to give up or die was declared the loser, and the winner was given whatever they were dueling over.
"But Ulfric walked in and killed him"
This is completely false. In game dialogue does prove that Ulfric challenged Torygg to an honorable duel, which Torygg accepted.
"Torygg had to accept, he didn't have a choice"
Yes he did. As any man has the right to challenge someone to an honorable due, any man also had the right to refuse a challenge,
"Torygg would of looked like a coward if he rejected"
Doesn't matter, he still accepted. He just put his pride over his life.
"Using the thu'um was cheating"
This is bullshit. At the time these customs took effect, using the thu'um was not only allowed, it was praised. Even a basic shout like 'Fus Ro Dah', takes years of meditation and dedication to be able to perform. Using the thu'um was just using what you know, and it served as a testament to your dedication and strength.
"Torygg didn't know Ulfric had the thu'um"
Complete fabrication. Not only is it common knowledge that Unfric studied with the greybeards. Ulfric is a well known war hero. And it's well known he used the thu'um in the war. If Torygg didn't know, that's his fault.
"The Empire does not recognize this law"
There are no records of the Empire changing this law. I could understand why they wouldn't give Ulfric the throne, but charging him with murder while they watched Ulfric duel and kill Torygg is just ridiculous.
"This custom affects the smallest things, and no the throne"
False. Jorunn the Skald-Kind challenged his brother to the throne, and got it when he won the duel.
Now:
"The rebellion is stupid, because it divided the Empire, and Skyrim will fall to the Thalmor. With the Empire in control, they have a chance to resume war with the Thalmor. Not to mention Ulfric is a racist"
I'm getting tired of healing this. But especially the "Ulfric's a racist" thing.
First of all, just to get it out of the way, I'm pretty sure true Nords would rather go down fighting the Thalmor than living under their rule.
Second, "they have a chance to resume the war." The war shouldn't have stopped in the first place. The Empire was winning, and they just surrendered.
**Joanna's battered legions. In the end, the main Aldmeri army in Cyrodiil was completely destroyed, The Emperor's decision to withdraw from the Imperial City 4e 174 was bloodily vindicated.**
So even if the Stormcloaks were to lose, it's more than the Empire would do.
"But Tullius said they are going to fight the Dominion?"
Well, Tullius doesn't run the entire Empire, does he?
Now onto the racism. Ulfric and the Stormcloaks are not racist. That's a very big accusation. If you think Ulfric and the Stormcloaks are racist, you have not been paying attention. You need to open up your mind on this a bit. There are only two real racists in Windhelm, Rolff and Angrenor, who were first seen bullying a Dunmer woman when you first enter the city. Other than them, what makes Stormcloaks any more racist than anyone else? And seeing people immediately changing factions just because of these two fuckers makes me cringe. So I really need to get this off my mind.
First of all, if Ulfric truly was a racist, then why would he let Altmer and Imperials live nice lives within his city and lands? If he really was racist, you would think he would be treating the Altmer (Race of which the Aldmeri Dominion is centered around and consists mainly of) and the Imperials (Race of which the Imperial Legion is centered around and consists mainly of) worse than the Dunmer and Argonians. But there are Altmer and Imperials living wonderful lives within his city (For example: Niranye and Viola). This is because, unlike the Dunmer in the Grey Quarter, they actually contribute (I'll touch on that as this goes on).
Speaking of the Dunmer, many Imperials also like to use them being in the Grey Quarter to further their argument. But have you not noticed Belyn Hlaalu? He's a Dunmer who lives a nice life on a nice farm on Ulfric's land. If he wanted to, Ulfric could take that farm from Belyn with a snap of his fingers. Belyn contributes to the Stormcloak cause in Windhelm. This is proved when he says "The only way to win the Nord's respect is through hard work." Indicating that he is working for the Nords who occupy Windhelm, aka the Stormcloaks. He also says "Too many Dunmer complain about the way we're treated. What good does complaining do?" I agree. I don't see those Dunmer in the Grey Quarter doing anything to help out, if they did, they would be living a life similar to that of Mr. Hlaalu. He helps out the Stormcloaks, so he gets to live a nice life. Have you also considered that Ulfric is a bit busy with a war and then preparing for a bigger war to spend a large amount of money on renovating a quarter of a city filled with people who don't even contribute?
Now moving onto the Argonians.
You also see people condemn Ulfric for keeping the Argonians out of Windhelm. But last time I checked, Brunwulf Free-Winter (Whom becomes Jarl should the Legion win) also keeps them out and his reasoning is that "they must remain outside for their own safety". Have you not considered that maybe that's why Ulfric keeps them out? It appears not. Nothing changes for the Argonians when the Imperials take over. Does that make the Imperials racist as well?
Ulfric respects anyone who supports the Stormcloak cause, regardless of race. Also, let's not forget the fact that Nords are a naturally proud race, but that doesn't make them racist.
And finally, to the people who read the Thalmor dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak and immediately assume he's a spy.
So many people read that and don't understand what it is saying. They call him an asset because his actions are inadvertently helping the Thalmor. They captured him and tortured him for info during the last war. Then they let him escape so that he could stir up trouble with his unrest over the Talos ban. Does no one read the "uncooperative" part? It means he's not trying to help them. His actions just happen to benefit the Thalmor since a civil war gives them time to gain strength and take over at a later date. But if the Stormcloaks win it will still be bad for the Thalmor. The dossier says as much.
People who say Ulfric is a spy really don't understand the context of that report.
I hope this helped to enlighten whoever read it at least a little.
Emilija Einoryte yeah meet up as in give each other time to prepare the second torrig stood up to prepare ulfric shouted him down
petargrad Citation needed for all of the of your fearmongering
petargrad they had a duel, he dint just walk up and go hey bro, what is it ulfric? FUS ROH DAH! AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -_-
petargrad
and? so he lost....
petargrad No one cares he still lost the Duel now pls gtfo Sjw
Slight spoiler,
When the Stormcloaks take Solitude (if you side with them) Ulfric miraculously allows Jarl Elisif to remain on the throne of the city and refuses to accept the title of "High King" until the Moot has met to elect one. Galamar rightfully says that such an election already has a foregone conclusion in store but nonetheless Ulfric sticks to his word.
When asked by the Dragonborn what his priorities are now that the civil war is over Ulfric says that he needs to stabilize and unite Skyrim in preparation for a potential Thalmor invasion. Could it be that Ulfric basically becomes the next Talos? One who would uproot a decaying empire and found a new, stronger one? Despite their differences with the Nords, especially with the more unsavory elements of the Stormcloaks, other races have various levels of little compassion for the Thalmor and if Ulfric decides to launch an all-out war against the Summerset Isle he might be able to pull it off.
Elder Scrolls VI anyone?
Nicholas Fincannon Ulfric will not stop with the Summerset Isle. He will invade
Every were there is not a Nord flag. The High Elves are not hated by the other races they are one of the only races that don't treat the kajit like shit. That being said the argnions have no reason to hate them. The red guard hate the high elves about as much as they hate the nords. The rest of the races are races of MER which the nords hate above all else on the planet. {:)
Did I rifer to my self in the third person. I did not forget about the imperials they just aren't relivent any more.
A couple flaws here & there, and a couple other points I would address.
- Ulfric doesn't kill Elisif because he simply doesn't need to. In this highly-unlikely situation of Stormcloak victory, he's already ensured his position on the Throne, even if he "refuses" it. He already mentions that the other Jarls will eventually elect him (as they have no choice).
- A "stabilized" Skyrim in Ulfric's eyes = Kicking out all foreigners, fighting off the Reachmen, and purging even any Nord who still doesn't agree with the Stormcloak cause. Not to mention being cut off from the Empire, which provided them food & supplies in the past.
- Ulfric was never about taking the fight right to the Thalmor, apparently. He's all about fighting the wrong "enemy" (the Empire) and weakening it for the Thalmor in the process. He's also about keeping the Throne warm for his true Thalmor masters, covering it by claiming to prepare for "Thalmor invasion".
- Ulfric will *_never_* be Talos. Don't kid yourself. To be Talos is to be Dragonborn, to *become* Talos (the god) is to achieve CHIM, and you apparently don't know the secret to achieving it (Hint: Something directly related to the Tiber Wars & conquest of Tamriel). Ulfric is one who would help destroy the very Empire that defends Skyrim, that's it...he's just a sleeper-agent of the Thalmor, not a "True Nord" at all.
- Ulfric even admits how wrong he was when you meet him in Sovngarde (after completing the Civil War on the Imperial side).
- As others have already said, the Thalmor already have many allies in Valenwood & Elsweyr (not to mention the Summerset Isles, as the Thalmor were previously only a *minority* organization within Altmer society). It is also possible that even the Argonians have sided with the Dominion, though this is only vaguely-hinted through the Thalmor's possible manipulation of the An-Xileel party.
- There is *no* way that other Provinces will decide to help a Stormcloak-Skyrim anyway, for varying reasons: *High Rock* has repeatedly declined the Stormcloak's request for aid (as they're *still* loyal to the Empire), the *Reachmen* are obviously enemies whose homeland has been stolen from them, *Orcs* are still obligated to the Empire, the *Dunmer* hold no obligation to the Nords, & (last but not least) the *Redguards of Hammerfell* would view the Nords as weak and undeserving of help.
A Stormcloak-Skyrim has no hope other than to die fighting the foolish fight. Ulfric & his band are too short-sighted.
+White Raven Agreed 100% here. I addressed some of these points in my recent comment. Correct me if I'm wrong on my certain points.
Hail Ulfric
Who knows? Elder Scrolls VI (if I'm guessing right) won't come out until some time in the next decade.
If you aren't segregating the Dunmer and the Argonians - you aren't paying attention. I actually don't blame him for keeping them out of the city. He has every reason to believe that would end badly.
If a "king" can not defend himself against a single assailant, how can he hope to defend his kingdom against a dominion, let alone purge it of the existing occupation. Ulfric had the right of it, those damn milk-drinkers didn't realize that he did what was necessary to root-out the real evil. It didn't matter what or who did it, High King Torryg either needed to rescind on the White-Gold Concordat, or die so that the next man would. PLAIN - SIMPLE.
Ulfric Stormcloak for High-King so that we might drive these pansy Thalmor back into the woods from which they came, or Oblivion for all it matters!
Talos, guide us all!
Ulfric got himself captured by the Thalmor when he was part of the Imperial forces. Only a brain-washed fool would believe he would fare better alone. Which is precisely what Ulfric is - a puppet for the Thalmor to destabilize and divide the human opposition.
This video swayed me from over a decade of choosing Empire. I usually play an Orc and usually support the Empire. But I think this playthrough of an Orc Battlemage/Warlock will end in Stormcloak Banners. The Nords deserve a place to call their own - from the Snow Elves butchering them, to watching the Dunmer, Khajit and Argonians slaughter each other - all the way to watching the High Elves take over and ruin the world multiple times - history supports Ulfric. Even if he murdered the High King dishonorably - what the Empire did to him at Markarth was equally dishonorable and after that, Ulfric did not need to give them any quarter.
I feel like I'm listening to an audio version of one of the books in the game. I like this narrator. Good work guys!
Just remember: When the Nords came from Atmora, they live peacefully with the Snow Elven, until the Night of Tears. The nords seems to be agressive but the Elfs started the shit.
thijs piggelen no, it's sad to see something like the grey quarter but some people blame the nords when they came from atmora, thinking that the nords came to conquer skyrim but they came to live peacefully.
thijs piggelen of course, what you said i agree with 100%. That's why i'm neutral, it's difficult to choose a side when both did what anyone would do.
Don't u think ulfric stormcloak would make a good movie
Emmet Berlin Tiber Septim would be better. Or even a game of thrones like TV show. Just called, "Septim" :D
moonsugar1
a septim tv show would be off the chain
Eddard stark
mikehtv who dat u mean edward
Emmet Berlin Hell yeah! I'd be willing to watch *THAT* over Game of Thrones any day!
There are those who fear, hate and belittle Ulfric. But I think he's a man of great honor and leadership. He is not a racist man, he simply fights for the protection of his own nation.
The Empire may claim to be the best hope for protecting Skyrim from the Aldmeri Dominion, but many seem to forget that Nords are a race of brilliant tacticians and strategists. Also, since the majority of Stormcloaks are ex-Imperial legionnaires, clearly they would would have the same kind of training (just to point out to those who think Stormcloaks are just bunch of mere thugs). A unified Skyrim without the protection of the Empire is far from defenseless. They will mass produce weapons and recruit warriors willing to fight the Elves. And with the the possble alliance of Hammerfell, the Dominion will have a serious fight on their hands. Even more so since the Blades may take part in this as well.
So just to clarify all that, if you guys read the end of the Thalmor dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak, they don't want a Stormcloak victory against the Legion, meaning the Dominion will have no benefit in achieving their goals in Skyrim. The Thalmor just want an ongoing war with each other. Besides, with the Dragonborn fighting in the front lines against the Dominion, Stormcloak victory is assured.
The Stormcloaks are good because they resist the Empire, and the Empire is bad. Both Alinor and the Imperial City should both be toppled, their rulers placed upon golden thrones, only to be toppled by an angry populace before the said populace proceeds to dismember the leaders.
Each province deserves independence.
if the empire and the stromcloaks work together they could forge an alliance with hammerfel and highrock and together i think they could deafeted the aldmeri dominion. once the dominion is defeated the empire will have no reason to be in skyrim. and nothing is stopping the worship of talos so the nords can praise whoever they want.
+Thekingpin I wish it were that simple.
It's actually amusing when you think about the whole conflict.
Ulfric wants to wage war against the Empire because he views them as puppets of the Thalmor, even though that would make himself an unwitting puppet of the Thalmor as well.
Ulfric is an example of brilliant the Thalmor's foreign policies are.
Divide and conquer ;)
divide et impera at it's finest
I can’t help but to sympathise with Ulfric and his cause
He is the hero Skyrim deserves but not the one it needs right now.
He makes it sound like a scoller of tamriel telling a story, it's great
holy shit his voice makes me like a knight serving a wise king telling every secrets he want to tell me. I like it
I still honestly say I have a deep respect for ulfric his origin is so deep that I dont know how you can't sympathize with his mindset or his cause
I've said it before and I'll say it again; the one person who has the right to be high king is the Dragonborn. Both by killing alduin and just by simply being of the dragonblood. Personally, I think that if bethesda ever decides on a canon for the aftermath of skyrim it should follow the quest 'Season Unending' but not Parthunaax. Instead of the dragonborn retrieving the jagged crown for either the emperials or the stormcloaks, what if he got it for himself and wore it into the meeting at high hrothgar? Whatever they decide, they certainly left the end of the game open to interpretation.
I think the lore should continue like this: Somehow, both Ulfric Stormcloak and General Tullius died around 4E 200 for various unfounded reasons, and the war ensued, with Ulfrics right hand man or son as the leader, and a new imperial General leading the legion. Eventually, skyrim wins its freedom, as does High Rock, who is pressured to succeed after Hammerfell and skyrim band together for a war against the A.D., and all three fight. They capture the large island just off the shores of the Summerset Isles. The empire is about to intervene when Cyrodill is attacked by Morrowind. A conspiracy is uncovered in which it is revealed that the A.D. lied to the Khajiit about restoring the moons, and so elswyre rebels from the A.D. and Valenwood breaks into civil war over who to support. Eventually, with the aid of a new lineage of Emperors and the help of black marsh, the empire subdues morrowind. They then aid skyrim, Hammerfell, and high rock in their siege on the A.D., and the second great war ends. Skyrim and high rock rejoin the empire, and Hammerfell is a little hesitant at first, but eventually comes around.
My thoughts on Ulfric Stormcloak are mixed. I can sympathize with Ulfric about how the Empire turned their backs on the nords but it was due for the necessity to survive. Anyone heard the expression "live to fight another day". The Empire did just that. If the Empire prolonged the war, then the Empire would die and Elven supremacy would become a reality to men. The Empire agreed to the Elves terms so that they could regain their men and resources and fight another day. Ulfric is just stalling this process. The Empire did not even care about Talos Worshippers but Ulfric had to make a huge fuss about it causing the dominion to patrol the lands of skyrim to root out Talos worshippers. Now, the stormcloak cause I can agree with. I believe all should believe in Talos whether man or elf says other wise, but fighting the Empire is not the right way. It is just draining the Empire's resources and making the elves become stronger everyday.
There are some things you are forgetting about that are very important though.
In the series of books Rising threat, it is clearly explained how Occato and the writer, along others, tried to warn the empire of the inminent threat the thalmor were, yet all of these warnings were ignored ecause the empire was more interested in the conflicts going on in Black Marsh after the eruption of the Red Mountain. (which was likely instigated by the thalmor). Then, Valenwood went down, and from that point on they started to worry.
The losing of the imperial city and the death of a non-septim emperor would hardly mean the end for the empire, since what it represents still was alive in the minds of the nords, the bretons, the redguards and the orcs. Even the Kahjiit tried to defend against the thalmor. What happened didn't happen to preserve the empire, it happened to preserve the sorry asses of the imperial people. who betrayed all other races to keep on ruling.
There have been other empires before, including the one Talos created, and none had the need to hold the imperial city to exist. The possession of the imperial city and the White Gold Tower only represents the absolute domain of said empires, not the source of their power. Losing it would be a blow, but not one strong enough to crumble down the empire.
Again, there was enough info to fight the thalmor effectively, even the Blades tried to warn the empire and their toadies, but none listened, the fair outcome would have been their heads rolling and the worthy regaining the empire.
Although Ulfric's still a racist douche who only craves for power and is good with words.
should've ended with shoddycast saying ''and ulfric fights''...
and ulfric saying "i fight because i must".
An older voice with an English accent just tends to lend more pathos to a series dedicated to fantasy genre lore. These new vids all have a higher degree of polish as a result.
Great job.
Wow this voice actor... amazing. Silky smooth.
I will second this. Threw me off for a bit, but a good fit. Thank you good job.
GO ULFRIC STROMCLOACK
oh shit
Alex Hopkins You're a moron.
iammadness Lets see, fought in a war that ended with his side loosing and a contact signing, check, trying to rise to power, check presumably going to start a war with winners of the past war, yeeeeaaaah, not like Hitler at alllll....
Yeah and lets not go over him being racist with the Dark elves(The Jews)
Alex Hopkins If anyone in that world are like Nazis it's the Thalmor. And his side never signed any treaty. That was the weak Emperor Titus Mede. I don't recall Hitler ever having been tortured by his enemies either. You are still a moron. And one invoking Godwin's Law as well.
I joined the stormcloaks because, let's face it...
Who even likes the thalmor??
Thans the reason i joined
no one does but joining with the stormcloaks shows that pushing the empire out only strengthens the thalmor
I joined because Skyrim belongs to the Nords. It's Nord land, we ought to rule it. The Empire reminds me of the European Union. I hate the EU.
***** The Thalmor are not communists.
Are you trying to say the Empire likes the Thalmor?
"I would love to see Ulfric uniting Skyrim, keeping in mind that Talos is wise enough to understand why he has to step back from being worshiped openly for a moment, so that together Empire of men - Mages of Breton, warriors of Hammerfell and Tongues and fighters of Skyrim, Diplomats and Merchants of Cyrodiil - all men would challenge Aldmeri Dominion once more and drive them back to their little Island. That is my dream. In the meantime, let me take care of that big black dragon" Grunsthaaf, Redguard, Dragonborn of the 4th Era.
What's with all this "Hitler" comparison?? While Ulfric and Hitler may share a few historical parallels, many other more stable military or revolutionary figures do as well. As to his nationalism, nationalism continues to be a driving force throughout most of the world, whether it be ethnic or civic, and only becomes a dangerous in its most radical forms. Then again, what can't be dangerous when taken to extremes with intensity? If you want to find the real Nazis of TES, look to the Thalmor: eugenics, ethnic cleansing, little to no code of ethics, secret police...
I used to be an anti-nationalist, but I have come to accept nationalism as a benevolent, and even desirable phenomenon. Nationalism is generally about being for your country. One can be for their own country without being against other countries. However, ultranationalists are usually against other countries, which is a dangerous view. Completely agree with you there.
Thalmor are more like zionists though. And eugenics was first and foremost and American movement, not a German or Natsoc... (Ever wonder why all those eugenics propaganda posters you've seen were all in English?)
@Antonio Bianchio The body count and destruction of human well-being done by Marxism and those who use it for power make the Nazis look like amateurs. That it's romanticized is sickening, especially given how shallow the original concept is. It's like a plague in social form.
An interesting parallel to consider in the civil war, it's almost the exact same motive as the Great War.
in the Great war: the empire rejected the thalmors treaty that would enforce their will upon them, the thalmor then attacked and the empire resisted.
In the civil war: The Stormcloaks rejected the Empires treaty that would enforce the thalmors will upon them, the Empire then attacked and the Stormcloaks resisted.
Interesting, eh -'J
Ulfric is just an amazing character. He reminds me of Martin Septim, and I absolutely cried my eyes out when Martin sacrificed himself for the people in Oblivion.
All hail Jarl Ulfric, the true high king of Skyrim!
HEEYYYAAA
damn, now I kind of like Ulfric.
+Harry Broxham Eh, some people ask who's worse: Ulfric or Thalmor?
I say Thalmor; Ulfric didn't try to ban worship of any gods.
I totes agree
I love him but he's racist but tbh he got tortured by elves.
+Father “da quan” Nature nothing really confirms hes a racist its only ppl complaining. besides even if you kill him the dark elves still live in the slums
Father Gasoline True story. Same goes for Argonians staying in the Argonian Assemblage.
This video serves as proof that the bazillion amount of people who speak ill of Ulfric, simply don't know anything about him. He is a true hero. Period.
Ulfric couldn't even run his own city, let alone all of Skyrim. He's got people getting murdered in the streets and can't even handle that and lets the dark elves and Argonians live in segregation also refuses to help non nords in anyway like when they get attack by bandit marauders(according to Brunwulf a true Nord)
Also, you pretty much replace all of the Stormcloak supporting Jarls with MUCH better Jarls instead.
Stormcloaks boast about their bravery, but how brave was Ulfric when he challenged the high king (fellow nord too) and then shouted him to death.
Stormcloaks could NEVER stop the Dominion especially since Stormcloaks would push away any other potential allies(everyone who isn't a nord)
@@reddrago8274 he seems to be running it pretty well, just because murders happen doesn't mean the city isn't being run properly, otherwise you would have to conclude that Falkreth, Morthal, Markarth, and Solitude aren't being run by competent Jarls... hmm, interesting that with the Exception of Windhelm, all starting imperial cities have murder problems.
.... wait, are you suggesting that Ulfric should have forced the Dunmer and Argonians to disperse? I think letting them live as they see fit is a better option.
.... Brunwulf is an imperial agitator, trying to stir up unrest... you'll note that he tricks people into attacking groups that he admits haven't done anything yet... kind of a preemptive strike, and he upfront lies about Ulfrics aiding and investigating attacks against non Nords, as can be seen with the case of the Attacked Khajiit Caravan by the Giant.
The Only Stormcloak Jarl I think has to go, is Skald the Elder, Brina is a way better Jarl... but I suspect time will do that very soon anyway.
... The Empire putting a Thalmor sympathizer into control of Riften is terrible... you gotta admit that Maven is the worst, right?
The Issue with challenging Torygg was never about Bravery, it was about necessity. Torygg had condoned the persecution of Skyrims people and their ongoing aggression against Eastmarch, killing Torygg in an official challenge should have given Ulfric high standing to be elected the new High King by the moot, and the War could have potentially been ended without more violence... it's kind of the Trolley Dilemma
... also, you forget that The shout was only used at the End of the fight, after Torygg had a sword through his heart
Back when the Empire and Dominion were at war with Hammerfell, the Redguards sought help from the Nords, but the High King at the time was pro imperial, and Ulfric and his militia were fighting a simultaneous war in the Reach that would not be resolved until 4e181. And do not forget that The Stormcloaks have already begun correspondence with Highrock about forging an alliance... and the Imperial and Redguard members who have already joined the Stormcloaks... they aren't pushing people away for not being Nord, Galmar even addresses this if you ask him
Something no one talks about when they talk about the White Gold Concord is the threat that the elves had to the empire during it. I imagine a bunch of unarmed elves and a bunch of unarmed imperials standing around a table at the meeting. The thing is if the high king had not signed the treaty the elves could easily strike him down with magic on the spot. Than what? The empire leaderless in ruins trying to hold off the Aldmeri onslaught with no hope of victory.
Well, that's not even the most confusing part of the White-Gold Concordant. Emperor Titus Mede II's legions pretty much obliterated the armies of the Aldmeri Dominion when they arrived in Cyrodiil outside the White-Gold Tower. The Concordant was signed AFTER this happened. So I really don't understand how the Thalmor leveraged Titus into signing it.
Coolwhitey Gaming If i recall correctly, the Aldmeri Dominion had more forces to attack Cyrodill if the Emperor refused the treaty.
They even sent a small part of these forces to invade Hammerfell, though it ended after five(?) years at a stalemate.
This is why I fucking love Ulfric Stormcloak.
You can't beat the golden pipes. When you've got it, you've got it.
glory to Ulfric Stormcloack, the true high king! (said by a high-elf)
The Stormcloaks should focused on killing the Thalmor and avoid confrontation whit the Empire. But if I had to choose, Ulfric would be my choice. The Septim dynasty is dead and Talos worship banned. The empire may have been good for Skyrim once upon a time. But those days are long gone.
I love this voice! Adds an air of seriousness to the show!
we need one of these episodes, strictly centered around the conspiracies regarding M'aiq The Liar.
The Empire should have just let Skyrim gain it's independance during the first signs of rebellions.they would loose almost nothing if they have done that.
The trade would still go on and Skyrim would still ally with the empire if the 2nd great war comes. not that the Dominion would still put up quite a fight if it happens they lost most of their armies in the great war
The empire made a stupid move trying to keep Skyrim part of the Empire and isolating their greatest ally. this is what every Imperial supporter fail to see
Keeping Skyrim part of the Empire just seeds discontent amongst the nords making them hate the empire which leads to rebellions harmful to both sides
Despite what many Imperials like to believe the empire is what keeps the Dominion in Skyrim, Ever heard of the Thalmor Justiciars and the Thalmor Embassy in Skyrim kidnapping and torturing citizens, the only reason they aren't burned to the ground is because the Empire prevents it
as I said in the first post, the Empire has nothing to loose when they grant Skyrim it's independance, the trade would still go on and Skyrim would still help the empire when the time comes.
Why don't you try to show me the benefits of keeping Skyrim rather than giving me an analogy which isn't even close to Skyrim's situation
thijs piggelen The situation between Gaul and Rome is different. try to prove your assertion that keeping Skyrim actually helps the empire
What I'm trying to say is they should grant Skyrim it's independence while the dominion is still present in order to satisfy the nords as there is no reason to keep it part of the empire
as it would result in rebellions which would drain the empire's coffers
Skyrim has been a great and formidable ally of the empire since the merethic era. the empire would still have those soldiers and resources
even if Skyrim leaves the empire as the nords hates the dominion as much as the imperials
So basically a free skyrim has more advantages than imperial Skyrim
Free Skyrim
* great ally
* still provides helps in case the 2nd great war comes
* no presence of the thalmor
Imperial Skyrim
* Thalmor presence
* Discontent nords leading to rebellions (harmful to both sides)
Skyrim could still join the empire after they the thalmor threat is dealt with
thijs piggelen that's obviously because the player needs it to complete the main quest
thijs piggelen Because it would break the main quest if you still haven't done it. the Stormcloak kills Ondolemar after you take Markarth there is no reason for them to leave the embassy intact other than in-game reasons
Can I just say that I love this series and this episode because they used my most favorite song out of the whole Skyrim soundtrack, "Standing Stones", to tell the story of Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak
+Lea Phan My favourite soundtrack too! It's just so damn atmosferic, you can really feel the nordic vibe when it plays + it fits perfectly in the harsh feeling of Skyrim.
I am very addicted to these, it's so well done. Makes me actually enjoy the games and get into the lore much more than I would normally.
So gamers, how does it feel to be a part of an epic story? :D
Epic narration. You guys need to be official for E.S. history.
This guy does a great job, and I think he is a wonderful addition to the series, but there was never anything wrong with yours. That being said, this guy's voice totally reminds me of the narrator/Guild Master from Fable: The Lost Chapters. :)
I respect the choice in a switch of the voice actor. Although I will miss the old series narration, I look forward to hearing the story written by you and told by this man. It is an interesting change and I look forward to seeing where it goes. XD I also would like to thank you for the series as a whole. It is in depth and makes it easy to understand the history of the world contained within the Elder Scrolls games. I do hope you do not run out of material to present any time soon. Thank you.
Ok, here's the thing with Ulfric's racism: The Dunmer live in the Grey quarter because there is no space in the rest of the city. The argonians live outside the city because with the Dunmer, there is no space inside the city. Also note that putting the Argonians and Dunmer into the same city like that might bring up some race issues between the two races.
Simply amazing piece of work! Well done!
this voice actor sounds like he'd be a librarian in the mage collage
All hail to Ulfric! The true High King!
Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak was a brave man and someone I could get behind. Sadly he was short sighted and the last thing people needed was another Interregnum.
Wow, these narrated lore segments are so well done and animated, that they remind me of the official lore segments from Game of Thrones. Very well done.
all of you that are involved with the series rock. I hope that you please keep making more videos.
All Hail the Stormcloaks! The True Sons and Daughters of Skyrim!
+MrMorphicus ummm the Aldmeri Dominion...small?Man where have you been the Dominion consists of Summerset Isles,Valenwood,and Elseweyr,and some small islands near Hammerfell and Cyrodil.Thats huge btw.that almost makes up what 80% of the empire borders in the start of the game.
what he means is they grew from a tiny faction
+Firestout Gaming let's not forget khajiit are apart are allied with the thalmor, if you played ESO you know what I mean
THE KING IN THE NORTH!!
Down with the killer of kings...
I've always chosen to be a Nord and I always will. I was a Nord in Oblivion and Skyrim; I will continue to be a Nord in Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited and all of the Elder Scroll games to follow! I proudly served with the Storm Cloaks for the true High King Ulfric! Huzzah!!!
*Although, I wish he would have granted me title of Jarl of Whiterun*
Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak is the true High King of Skyrim!
I absolutely love these videos. I eagerly await the newest episode every two weeks.
Ulfric's heart seems to be in the right place... but he's not in the right.
The Stormcloaks wasn't right, According to Elisif and Solitude if Ulfric waits a while for Skyrim's economy to grow prosperous, Torygg will have not problem working with Ulfric. Torygg needs the money to support the cause you see..
Lord Shadowscale
agree'd she even asked her own Thane to place Torygg's horn on a statue of Talos Deep within Stormcloak Control... (Spoiler)
Lord Shadowscale Well according to Ulfric he already asked if Torygg to claim skyrim's independents, but Torygg denied it. If Torygg was waiting (like what you said) he might have told Ulfric about his plan.
NightWolf0228
It's entirely possible Ulfric wasn't willing to hear him out.
NightWolf0228
my understanding was that the trade with imperials was becoming a sustainable backbone of northern skyrims economy however even under thalmor ruling to remove talos worship Torygg still believed in his nordic people... and needed the funds because he was "Stupid as a king" and gave it freely, thats what made him great to the beggars but he was not strong minded when it came to battle ... ulfric challenged him under nord laws and torygg could not deny it so ulfric fought him and killed him, but that is what the thalmor wanted a war in Skyrim so they can expand their control... now depending on the race you've chosen the ideals differ from what your told to embrace, i loved the khajiit so by rights i should have had a harder time gaining anything from the nordic people. but i guess the games flaws where on programming not on before era law.
the son"s and daughter's of skyrim shall be free all hail ulfric stormcloak
This is awesome, I didn't know these lore video's existed until now.
Honestly, the idea of Ulfric Stormcloak, and the supposed cause he fights for, freedom and independence, is a good one in theory. Yet, in the end, Ulfric fights only to see himself installed as High King, to create a new nation in his own image, and to only provide prosperity to those who support him. You can't tell me that he fights for freedom when he segregates dark elves within his own city, force Argonians to live the cold of the docks, and hold literally everyone who isn't a Nord in a very low regard (and I mean EVERYONE who isn't a Nord. In my first file, I played a Breton. I was a man, and yet I still wasn't a Nord, and that was enough for him to question my alligence. Screw that.) Just to put the cherry on the cake, Ulfric's rebellion would ultimately lead to the destruction of Skyrim. The Aldmeri Dominion consisted of just three of the original provinces of the Tamriellic Empire, and the Great War pitted them against the other six, yet the Great War ended in victory for the Dominion. If their power were brought to bear on Skyrim under an Ulfric regime that had only just before torn the province in half in a bloody civil war that greatly weakened the provinces military power, it only holds that Skyrim would be powerless before the Thalmor, and then the province would come under the rule of the very oppressors they were trying to kick out. If Skyrim remains under the protection of the Empire, then it at least benefits from the protection offered by it. Ultimately, Ulfric is fighting the wrong enemy. If he really wanted freedom for Skyrim, he would have sided with the Empire and encouraged it to give the Thalmor the old boot, yet that isn't what Ulfric truely wants. All he really wanted was power, and a form of Nord supremacy. Even if Ulfric and Skyrim could somehow keep the Thalmor out, ultimately, due to Ulfric's racism, Skyrim would have become no better than the Thalmor. The Thalmor seek to supress man, and the Stormcloaks seek to supress elf, and arguably, anybody really who isn't a Nord. In that sense, they are even worse than the Thalmor.
And so, in order to solve the problem of two tyrannies, I fight for the Empire so that a man (or mer, depending on my file) can reunite with the Empire and then, one day, take the fight to the enemy we should really be fighting: the Thalmor themselves.
I play as an Imperial & I fight for Ulfric & the Stormcloaks(kind of like Avatar, The Last Samurai & Dances With Wolves), they could have easily driven out the Thalmor & burn that embassy to the ground if the Empire didn't hold them back. Ulfric Stormcloak has many advantages to fight the Thalmor; Dovahkiin, The recovery of The Blades, seeking an alliance with Hammerfell & unless the Thalmor learned how to adapt to Skyrim's harsh cold climate half their soldiers would die out from the cold like the Germans & the French in Russia or Carthage to Italy from The Alps.
Many people complain that Ulfric Stormcloak is racist but there is a difference between National pride & Supremacy he is not a Supremacist like the Thalmor plus no one complained when the Dunmer in Morrowind were racist(if not worse than the Nords) against any non Dunmers in Morrowind.. hell they even kept slaves mostly Khajiit & Argonians.
Nope. Burning their Embassy down and becoming independent of the Empire just leaves them open to attack from the alliance that has the best navy on Tamriel, capable of sporting the best mages of Tamriel supported by the best archers of Tamriel, while riding battlecats the size of mammoths with the potentially the most adaptable army in Tamriel. An alliance of ALL the races of man was needed to repel them once. Nords on their own won't be enough. And don't pull out the 'Redguards repelling the Dominion' that was a tactic to separate Hammerfell from the Empire and deprive it of a huge chunk of its military. Any 'losses' they suffered to make the Empire suffer tenfold is acceptable.
Not that the Dominion will bother. Their real prize was Cyrodiil, and without Nordic support from Skyrim, the richest province in Tamriel will fall to them. Then if the Thalmor are as crazy as they act, they'll probably go forward with the 'Destroy the World to Become Gods Again' plan. Which doesn't involve Skyrim so they can easily go around it.
Also the dunmer in Skyrim are the ones that wanted to ABOLISH slavery. Why do you think they left Morrowind and risk the cold of Skyrim, rather than say migrating to the much safer city of Blacklight?
Lightscribe225 The Empire had their chance & they failed, how long does it take to replinish their strength? It's been that long & they are still weak, Cyrodil will just have to go back to being a kingdom but eventually will have to have a truce with Skyrim then team up with Hammerfell & Skyrim.
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They were replenished...then Ulfric had his rebellion. Now soldiers that were going to be prepared for fighting the Domnion have to turn around and fight what could have been more legion recruits. They are now weak because they now have to rely on monopolies to get their supplies like the East Empire Company to bring war material from Morrowind, and Solstheim.
If there is independence there will be no time for a Truce as the Dominion will seize that opportunity. Without the Redguard navy keeping the waters safe, or Nord meatheads being effective meatshields, the Legions will be overwhelmed as they only have a single province worth of soldiers, while the Dominion has three...
Also Hammerfell would never ally with Skyrim on its own free will, neither will the nords. Too much bad blood. The only time the Redguards allied with anyone was with the Bretons and it was only to drive out some immediate threat.
Yes, Ulfric is a supremacist. Non-Nord lives are devoid of value for him. Brunwulf makes that quite clear.
***** Except the two don't contradict each other at all. But nice try.
"I fight for the men I've held in my arms, dying on foreign soil. I fight for their wives and children, who's names I heard whispered in their last breaths. I fight for we few who did come home, only to find our country full of strangers wearing familiar faces. I fight for my people impoverished to pay the debts of an Empire too weak to rule them, yet brands them criminals for wanting to rule themselves! I fight so that all the fighting I've already done hasn't been for nothing. I fight... because I must." ―Ulfric Stormcloak, High-King of Skyrim
I love the style of this video - the slow motion pans just look so good! Looking forward to checking out more. Elder Scrolls lore, particularly that of Skyrim, is deliciously fascinating.
However, you were wrong on two parts. First, the Markarth Incident ocurred before Ulfric was named Jarl of Eastmarch; his father died during his imprisonment after the Empire took the city back under their control. Second, Ulfric did not segregate the Dunmer into the Grey Quarter; this was done decades before he was even born, after Windhelm was flooded with refugees escaping Morrowind after the eruption of the Red Mountain early in the fourth era. (That isn't to say they were segregated intentionally; it might have just been that the Snow Quarter, as it was called at that time, was the only section of the city with enough space to house them all.)
Where all meh Stormcloak comrades at? XD lol
The second thing you hear in Windhelm is a nord complaining about how Ulfric invited the dark elves into Windhelm without asking his people. If you think Ulfric is racist, you didn't play the fucking game.
Those particular Dunmer are bad.There are four good Dunmer Houses: Indoril, Telvanni, Dres and Redoran. They are traditionalist, and anti-Imperial. The Dunmer in Windhelm are part of one of the bad Houses, House Hlaalu. They were corrupted, and were subsidized by the Empire, and used this money to send assassins after their rivals. Now, no-one gives them money, so when their refugees in Windhelm do not get these funds, they cry "racism" and refuse to work. They're fools.
Rolff Stone-Fist said it was the High King that invited dark elf refugees into Skyrim. Clearly, someone doesn't recall the actual information given in the game.
Varshava Kadnikov No, the 4 "good" houses were the ones that wanted to keep Argonian and Khajiit slaves and keep the outlanders out of Morrowind. House Hlaalu was the one that abolished slavery and had plans to bring multi-cuturalism who better an ally than the Empire? anyways, after red mountain erupted and the argonians attacked the very people who set them free, Hlaalu sought refuge in Skyrim and how were the house that abolished slavery in Morrowind treated? they were left in the slums of Windhelm with only each other as support.
***** wow...
Because segregation isn't racist at all...
oh wait
Ulfric Stormcloak = Trump
Maven Blackbriar = Hillary
Just pointing that out.
Well, at the begining of the developpement of the game, Tulius wasn't supposed to be the Legion's leader, it was supposed to be Ricke, the lady who side Tulius. If she were the Legion,s leader, it would have fit very well with the Trump and Hillary thing.
Ulfric is a war hero. He liberated Markath from the Reachmen, is a proven general and warrior, able to kill Torygg in single combat, and is able to utilize the Thuum to kill a man. The Empire offers what? The Empire wants to install weak leaders and puppet jarls like Elisif with no military or political experience, in preparation for strengthening their alleged "counterattack" (that they'll never have the balls or leadership to pull off) against the Thalmor? Imperial supporters are crazy. It was the Septims the Nords bowed to and the Septims are dead! Worse, the Imperials spit on Tiber Septim's memory by banning his worship. Ulfric is the only High King I mean to bend my knee to. The King with the Voice!
Samuel Normand No, Rikke is an honor bound warrior who's true to her own people, despite opposing Ulfric. Hillary is best compared with Maven Blackbriar, who is rich, powerful, and shady as shit. LOL
*Maven for Riften Prison*
+Gotdragon Ulfric too like Rikke, is an honor bound warrior who is true to his people. He and Trump share quite a lot of similarities. Like Trump, the good he is trying to do is not recognized by everyone. A lot of Nords claim that Ulfric only seek personal gain and don't give a skeever's ass about the people. We know, or at least I know, this isn't true once you've sided with Ulfric and got to know the man. Just like Trump, allegations and lies about him of all levels of absurdity are passed around to slander him. For instance, those against him claim he shouted King Torygg appart... and as we know as the Dragonborn, Fus Ro Dah doesn't do that. I am all for Ulfric.
*Ulfric 4E 201! Make Skyrim great again!*
Elisif's more like Hillary than Maven is. Elisif only counts as royalty because of her marriage to the High King. Just like Hillary, she's literally piggybacking on her husband's political position.
This video series is so well designed. I am so very impressed.
that voice acting so damn good, specially to tell the story of Ulfric, Top Notch!
That's a nice episode. On my first playthrough of skyrim, i had joined with the stormcloaks. The first reason being that i was about to be executed by the empire, of course... but also because they seemed to be more honorable, more freedom loving, less inclined to follow whatever orders came from the clearly evil thalmor. And i really liked ulfric's first speech, when he says, he fights so that all the fighting he had already done, wouldn't have been for nothing.
I've replayed Skyrim about 20 times, and of those, I chose Stormcloaks 19 times, the other one I regretted serving the Imperials so much I gave the Jagged Crown to Ulfric instead, then deleted the character.
Thijs Tharn Because I believe the Stormcloaks are right in just about every aspect.
Hah
Chips Dubbo ii thought ii was the only1 lol.
nah fuck the rebels I choose the imperials in skyrim, but hated them in oblivion
peanutbutterrobot you must like getting belittled then.
The imperials of cyridale have no bisiness leading the empire that talos founded, yes a NORD!
Oh my God. This. This is perfect story time material. Compelling narration in combination with professional-grade writing and a golden voice? I could go to sleep with this. (Not in a bad way. of course.)
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. New narrator, You've saved it and me!
I usually play as a Stormcloak because it really fits that " proud, have a sense of honor viking warrior" feeling in my harsh unforgiving modded Skyrim.
Roleplaying an Imperial feels like roleplaying a vegan in Skyrim. "Hey look at me, I'm politically correct little bitch!".
Yeah, when I played Imperial, something didn't feel right, it didn't feel honorable to me.
you do know that ulfric is a thalmor agent right?
No, he is considered an asset. It's not the same thing look it up
+Daniel Trinta Rodrigues Wrong. Thalmor established a contact and THEN, after the Markarth incident Ulfric stopped cooperating and became dormant and uncooperative. Read the Thalmor dossier without being of part, thanks.
I feel guilty because I only play stormcloaks, I love Ulfric, I love the cause, I actually don't think he just want power, his history proves he is a man of convictions, devoting his life for his cause. But at the same time, it's weakening the Empire and the Thalmor want that to happen. Si I dunno.
But what I know is that I fucking hate that Tullius asshole.
One who has played oblivion knows that Talos is a God and who has read the thalmor dossiers knows that imperial victory is essential
Gamers Inc. yeah but the imperials already lost
@@borrburison648 The dossier does say that Imperial Uprising must be avoided as well as the Stormcloak influence must be less.
Im a film maker and am planning several elderscrolls films. This channel is just what i need to get my facts straight. Much appreciated!
Oblivions theme makes this lore series so memorable
A united skyrim could team up with hammerfell to eradicate the High elves
As a female Breton Archmage of the College of Winterhold, I sided with Ulfric. Not because I believe he is deserving to be High King, but because I refuse to live under the corrupt tyranny of the Thalmor.
I know the Thalmor engineered this entire situation, and I do not support Ulfric's staunch racism and jingoistic nationalism. However, I have found that many of his Stormcloaks are aware of his shortcomings. Another reason I ended up supporting the Stormcloaks,
When you win the civil war, Ulrick does not automatically claim the throne as High King. He calls for a Moot among the Jarls. Granted, the voting will be in his favor, but at least he is adhering to Nordic tradition.
I've heard this dialogue. Ulfric is a dick, but I can't in good conscience aid the Empire and its compliance with the Thalmor and allowing them to conduct themselves like East German Stazi.
I like your enthusiasm, but it's a video game. I was given an option between two opposing forces, and I chose the Stormcloaks. Next game I'll chose the Empire.
+Fodxp hatesgoogle you seriously misunderstood ulfric for being racist.
sembarangjaknama I have since read some more lore books in game and found he is *not* the racist I believed him to be. However, even in a hypothetical situation where Ulfric were the staunch racist I thought he was, he at least adhered to Nordic traditions and respected the autonomy of his fellow Jarls.
+Fodxp hatesgoogle "Jingoistic nationalism", pretty sure there's a word for that: Chauvinism.
the cinematography and story telling is captivating man
Ulfric Stormcloak=Bravehearth Great video keep up the good work shoddycast:)
I can understand both sides' cause but personally I think the imperials have the moral high ground. For me, the whole war is summed up here: when you go into the keep with Hadvar and come across some stormcloaks. Then Hadvar says "Let's reason with them." Then you confront them and they try to kill you. The imperials didn't want this war and they didn't want to ban the worship of Talos. They pretty much had a sword to they're neck when they signed the white gold concordant! So that's my thoughts on the rebelian
Yes and that is precisely why Hadvar commonly says "Can't wait to kill another one of Ulfric's boys"...
The Empire became nothing more than a puppet for the Thalmor to do their bidding. General Tullius is a good guy though, and he doesn't like the Thalmor. What the Empire needs is a strong Emperor who is brave enough to declare war.
That’s why I always go stormcloak
Great video save for the fact about tullius preferring to have ulfric stand trial. He made the desicion for execution and the thalmor were vehemently apposed fo this.
all hail to Ulfrick Stormcloack the true high king of skyrim
Long live the empire! Death to Ulfric, the killer of kings!
May the nine curse you
I believe in Talos, but I don't believe in power- hungry, racist, dictators.
GamesLegitament I never said i was on his side I am with the nine and the nine alone Ulfric defiles there name
Dem Apples Come at me bro.
Steven Millard It was not fair combat. Ulfric challenged Torryg to a duel, which was honorable, but then he used the shout against him. No words can describe how shameful it was of Ulfric to use the Thu'um.