Fun fact: the weapons that do the best against heavy armor are hammers and maces, because the blunt force can easier dent the armor or “bruise” the insides. Therefore I think magnus, bulkhead and breakdown have the best shot at him in bot mode
They can definitely do the dmg necessary but they can’t out speed them and thus would be at a disadvantage (it’s a 40% in breakdown bulkheads etc favor not impossible but by no means easy) It’s kinda like a bear vs a tiger in a way ones all power and toughness but the other is power speed and toughness Best match up is ultra magnus optumis megaton and those like em strategic powerful swift but also capable of tanking a good hit
As much as I loved the inclusion of the reimagined Predacons, I always felt that it was a missed opportunity to not bring Autobot worthy counterparts, like I don’t know, the freaking DINOBOTS!
I would like to mention that if I remember correctly, Soundwave was pretty much the second strongest 'con in the pits. Couple that with his groundbridges providing more agility.
your opponent's strength is his weakness. most snipers can't win a fistfight. most powerlifters cant win a race. no one can is stronger than predaking. but that also means predaking never had to learn how to properly fight.
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So arcee is something like a velociraptor attacking? Small, fast, has blades, just open a lot of small wounds and let the beast bleed to death, that's the same thing raptors did back in the day
Not exactly. Raptors mainly sustained themselves on smaller bite sized prey and their foot slaws are more for holding down/ holding onto the prey then killing it. Their claws have a point, but no cutting or serrated edge.
Except said hide is super thick and her little blades would do nothing as wheeljack a very fast and skilled autobot did nothing and even megatrons blade
I think it's worth mentioning that Airachnid also has a lot of experience hunting "endangered species" throughout the galaxy. It's possible that plenty of her victims were extremely dangerous organisms, and that she has experience taking a fight for survival seriously when necessary. I also wonder how much more dangerous she would be in a fight against a Predacon if we factored in her Terrorcon energon-draining ability, as well as her ability to telepathically command all insecticons whenever she is conscious (and the fact that they seem to serve her of their own accord to a degree as well).
So effectively: Predacons are less durable, but can fight without as many restrictions in Beast Mode, and far more difficult to harm, but lack access to many of their most damaging skills in Robot Mode.
For the fight against megatron I would say Megs would have a better chance then you gave him credit for since the fight took place in a confined space. If the fight took place in something like a gladiatoral arena he would stand a better chance by constantly transforming and shooting from a distance while closing in only when needed. That was likely why he was able to win against those large creatures in flashbacks. As for agility he was seen often seen flipping and jumping in his fights with Optimus, so if say he'd be able dodge the counter fire and clawstrikes As for soundwave I agree that he would be very fragile in a 1 on 1 but I feel his agility would allow him stay out of the way particularly if he and laserbeak worked in sync they could confuse him and have him struggle to focus on one ( especially since in triage his shot was able to down the jack hammer). It is also important to consider that he can create groundbrigdes at will so he could just continuously transport himself or Prediking to an area that would benefit him in the fight
Realistically, I think Beast Hunters Optimus and FOC Grimlock are the 2 characters in the Aligned Continuity with the best chance of defeating Predaking, obviously aside from Omega Supreme and the other giants. Base TFP Optimus is just as physically built as Ultra Magnus, but the Beast Hunter upgrade ups his speed. With his hands alone, Optimus was able to hold Predaking's jaws away from his head. In robot form, Optimus laid down a pretty devastating onslaught of punches and eventually gained the upper ground by head-butting the beast, proving that Optimus Prime's physical build and intelligence combined is more than a match for Predaking. FOC Grimlock is even larger than base TFP Optimus, and when comparing base TFP Optimus to TFP Megatron and Predaking, Grimlock easily towers over his opponent. For one, Grimlock is very heavily armoured with a flaming sword and the ability to activate a Primal Rage, a level of anger so great that it overrides Grimlock's mind in beast mode. His flames are also hot enough to match Megatron, so a Primal Raged Grimlock is easily able to down Predaking.
Can we just talk about how cool starscream hitting predaking with that missile was? That shit hit him in the back in bot form and still heavily injured him
The shots predaking emits from his blasters in bot mode are derived from the same plasma flame which he breaths in beast mode just in a more potent and compact blast rather than a wide spread beam of fire
Probably not the actual blade but the slash of energy it could survive Optimus prime once survived the dark star saber energy blast so predeking is more than capable of surviving it
@@username.exenotfound2943 yeah but we actually don't see full power of star saber in the series. Megatron once assumed dark star saber as "capable of tear this world apart", so character with star saber is actually a planet buster level
@@kovval8835 its not like he would ever use its full power also the dark saber also has less abilities than the star saber like when megatron fought prime on cybertron where prime seemingly super charged the star saber
@@username.exenotfound2943 Doesn't matter which one has more abbilities when Megatron easily broke the Star Saber with his Dark Star Saber , that is the only that matters
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I would love to see Predaking against FOC or G1 Grimlock, but a truly challenging fight would be Predaking against TM2 Dinobot with his spark healed. TM2 Dinobot not only has the speed advantage, and blades sharper than any in Transformers Prime, but that spark of his means that he could keep in the fight almost forever.
@@vyktorehon5995 if emperor kumquat's "days forgotten" fanfic is to be considered canon, then presumably yes, projectile weapons can and do indeed hurt predacons. Human made railguns, if sufficiently advanced could give predacons a real reason to stay away.
Love how some of these points are used in yer one fanfic! Thanks for the informative video, and mass change has been mentioned in Rescue Bots Academy, so good ole' Disaligned Miscontinuity is striking again
I guess, this fight isn't about 1vs1, since it's same to fight a bear. I mean, Predaking just too strong, to get him in single fight. It is possible, that Optimus and Megatron would win if they are armed with Star/Dark Star Sabers. Also, let's just imagine, that Optimus/Dreadwing/Ultramagnus would use unstable synth energon(Megatron excluded, since he may turn into a zombie). I mean if Ratchet with all his weakness after injection can easily beat down most of Desepticons, then what will these 3 mentioned above will?
I think FOC Grimlock would beat Predaking in a single fight, plus both are in the aligned continuity. FOC Grimlock was properly trained and led his team meanwhile Predaking wasn’t, being able to bash his opponents however he wanted due to his strength, and considering FOC Grimlock is also around the same strength, size, and power as Predaking… let’s just say it’s lights out for a certain Predacon.
The Star Saber would mess up literally anyone who's not Primus or Unicron. Predaking might be able to take a few hits, but he's up against weapons that let the wielders cut mountains in half as easily as breathing.
Somehow, I knew you were gonna say that Starscream would be able to kill a Predacon lol Glass cannons over tanks, I guess. Airachnid = Crowd Control Interesting to know that Seekers stand a good chance against Predacons, even if most of them might turn tail and flee. If only bots could be controlled like Pokémon, then they wouldn't have to think about their feelings, they would just act XD Great video, as always! :)
Considering Predaking was created to be strong while Grimlock has centuries of combat experience under his belt, it’s pretty obvious who would win if they fought
@@halfknight2310 I think so too, but if you think about it, when it comes to skill, Predaking is basically Homelander. And we all know how skill issue is one of Homelander’s weaknesses
The way you described the predacon’s forms reminds me of aegislash, who also has an offensive mode and defensive mode. In general, great video as always!
This is awesome, really works that they have advantages gained and lost from their chosen modes in a fight. Like an option for defense or offense modes in battle unlike the regular cybertronians who use vehicle modes more to travel or evade attacks. I never noticed it before. This is good material!
This video reminded me of how OP Arachnid's kit is lmao. CC capabilities with the web, damage overtime with her toxins, agility/flexibility with her extra spider arms and honestly, summoning abilities too with her Insecticons.
Something to note is that predaking survived a mine full of energon exploding mostly unscathed while in beast mode. I doubt any one bot has the ability to take him down.
If we go with BW Megs in his BW scale, would be way smaller with less fire power. His only advantages would be stradegy, fighting skills and battle sense. Same goes to all his 3 bodies he had trough the show. He might now be able to win on his own against Predaking, but if he utilises everything he has, including all predacon troops and arsenal, he would win.
Soundwave is the only transformer in the series, I believe, to have never lost a duel. He got defeated by being shadowzoned, not by losing a duel. He defeated Airachnid multiple times, the wreckers (to be fair, that had more to do with his ground bridge tricks and can't be considered a duel), Wheeljack, and even Optimus (with the jet pack). He got shot down in Minus One by chance.
I always thought that a tiny purple square at the top of Soundwave's display screen is his actual eye, so theoretically it's still a weak spot, even though it's very hard to hit
This was really fun to watch. I think that any seeker probably has the best chance. They’d have to out fly them, ground them and then air superiority should help them win.
It's a risky move but what if a seeker with missals like Starscream's waited for Predaking to try to shoot fire at them in his beast mode and shoot a missile into his mouth while it was open?
What if a second bot distracted the Predacon/restrained it ? If the Predacons focus was shifted onto another target, the seeker would have a window of oppertunity to aim properly.
This video has made me want an extremely violent Transformers show like the Michael Bay films without the 'enemy scrotum'. Weapons are designed to kill. Basically, a Transformers version of Saving Private Ryan.
Starscream always wants more power but it really has enough he's nimble he's agile he's fast and sometimes is retractable claws can make very great weapons this mean weaknesses that he's just far too darn scared!
am I the only one that thinks shockwave might win cause he has the highest chance knowing Predaking's weekness he also survive from all the dead predacons and can hit them down with one blast
As a person who also loves giant monster fights I can imagine predaking and trypticon fighting that’ll be awesome id also say mechagodzilla but that’s probably way too strong
For your first powerscaling video it wasn't bad. I was disappointed you didn't mention hardshell, insecticons in general, grimlock, and synth-en amped ratchet
Ah shit insecticons would be pretty great. Not sure if Synth-en Ratchet would work though he'd just be faster and hit harder but his durability stays the same, and when megatron can counter him I think the more ruthless fighting Predacons would do the same.
Tfp hardshell would be a decent match since he blew shock waves when he was punching wheel jack to death Also a hit or two from shock waves cannon also from tfp would be doing some dmg
@@War__robots not really. Yes he would get beaten since we're talking about predaking but hardshell is a good match in power, at least in robot mode. In beast mode predaking just ravages. Foc grimlock would murder predaking tho.
Mild take: A briefed squad of MECH Commandos could've probably offed a Predacon. Given MECH's technological and militaristic tenacity, plus the fact that they seemed to custom-tailor their weapons and equipment for specific hostiles (or at the very least have multifunctional weapons such as that fancy autorifle/stungun hybrid), I'd wager that any moderately informed squad of them could likely have bagged one or two, depending on who's turf they'd have been hashing it out on. Besides, the Predacons would've in all likelihood grossly underestimated them for being smaller. Predaking, however, would have likely required much more extensive firepower. Probably a good bit of air support, like with those stun-beam helicopters, since you mentioned typical stun strikes only seem to disturb him. Oh, and you can totally bet they'd have butchered any fallen Predacons to further their own weaponry- and given how quickly they broke the code to transformation, it would not have been unrealistic to say they probably would've made some hybrid Damocles-Predacon artillery platform. Of course, Silas in all his glowing brain genius offed what appeared to be the entirety of MECH as far as TFP is concerned so we'll never know, and you know what? I'm alright with that. Pipedream fantasies are my favorite pastime.
i do not want to correct you but in one scene shockwave is very fast and also shockwave created them so they most likely wont attack them but i do like how you still added the possibility
Airachnid is definitely gonna lose if Soundwave is around just like last time that they both fought and plus i just want to see Soundwave rip off Airachnid limbs hearing her scream in pain while Soundwave just gives the audience the chills seeing him being silent enjoying ripping off Airachnid limbs just like Jazz when he was split in 2
The only one sadistic enough to maim people without being in a rage would be Airachnid herself - so don't expect your fantasy of seeing the arguably most evil character of the show be slowly killed like that come true.
This is a very in depth video and I like that you go over the details of the pro's and con's of both beast form and bot form. However there is one point that I don't entirely agree with, is that beast mode is any more vulnerable than bot form. Hear me out. So let's say that every cybertronian has multiple layers of armor plating, with most having only two layers. For a predacon It is more than likely that they would have three to four, so when they transform into beast mode the majority of the armor plating is thinned out and extended, however the internals would still be closely protected by the final layer. This would still make large empty spaces where the out layer could be easily pierced, however these large empty spaces would still provide protection by combining the distance needed to reach the internals and the still present inner layer of armor. This is akin to the spaced armor present on tanks or armored compartments of a warship. This leads me to believe that a predacon's beast mode would be just as if not more difficult to land a lethal blow than bot form.
so what I am hearing is, instead of lasers they should be using conventional anti-tank munitions; like 30mm autocannon rounds, High Explosive tank slugs and Anti-Tank missiles to eliminate the Predacons quickly, I mean the Autobots have a contact with the US Gov so supplying them shouldn't really be a problem
Soundwave can just open a space bridge and teleport the predacon into a black hole or something kinda like how he just teleported arachnid to cybertrons moon
Airachnid is so overpowered. Her agility, range of motion, webs, control over the Insecticons, venom, acid and new Terrorcon powers would probably let her 1v1 any of the Predacons, though not without difficulty. Ultimately though, the most overpowered non-god character in TFP is Soundwave. You don't get much more broken than literally controlling space itself with your mind.
Yeah my only disagreement is Soundwave, he would own Predaking's bot form because electricity is shown to hurt the predacons more when they're in bot form (see starscream with Skylynx and Darksteel, yes I know they're weaker than predaking but their internal biology will be the same as his) and he's agile enough to avoid his blasts, his best bet would be to trick Predaking into charging him and doing what he did with Airachnid and bridge him somewhere far away/fatal. Beast form is basically the same strategy, the only thing shown to shoot him out of the sky in the show was Optimus' minigun (which fires super fast, super strong blasts, super well.. fast) so Predaking would have to get up close and personal and well, Predaking's shown to be easily tricked into flying into bridges. edit: yes I might be a bit of a Soundwave stan, how'd you know?
I love the concept of these predacons! If this series had another season instead of moving into RID, I bet (or at least hope) that Abominus would be introduced as Predaking and his race try to finish what the decepticons refused to finish. This would only be possible if the events of transformers RID never happened…
Auto-Cons and DeceptiBots have magic and strength and bravery. If they existed in the Transformers series, then a fight between Auto-Cons and predacons would be cool!
I'm honestly not too surprised that the agile ones can stand a better chance against the beast forms than others. It reminds me of Link from the Legend of Zelda series taking down humongous bosses. Great video! ^u^👍⭐️
PREDAKING: I am the king!
GRIMLOCK: No! Me, Grimlock, is king!
GALVATRON: You idiots are kings of no kingdom!
Omega Supreme: Galvatron, inferior. Omega, SUPREME!
@@Aidan_Yao Superior?
@@Happyッ-r4q that works too
Grimlock: you can't win Predaking
Predaking: this is my kingdom MY DESTINY!
“This is bad comedy”
A fight between Predaking and Grimlock would be dope.
A fight between Predaking and any dinobot would be dope.
Especially FOC Grimlock
You see RiD could've done something like that,
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@@mon-mon even swoop?
@@4CHAMUKA because grimlock is dead lol, or do you mean the new one? The new one is strong but idk about taking on predaking
Fun fact: the weapons that do the best against heavy armor are hammers and maces, because the blunt force can easier dent the armor or “bruise” the insides. Therefore I think magnus, bulkhead and breakdown have the best shot at him in bot mode
We talkin only tfp? Cuz if not FOC grimlock, he hits like a train in bot mode, and like a rocket in Dino mode.
A chompazoid like underbite could probably take on a predicon depending on how much a chompazoid ate.
They can definitely do the dmg necessary but they can’t out speed them and thus would be at a disadvantage (it’s a 40% in breakdown bulkheads etc favor not impossible but by no means easy)
It’s kinda like a bear vs a tiger in a way ones all power and toughness but the other is power speed and toughness
Best match up is ultra magnus optumis megaton and those like em strategic powerful swift but also capable of tanking a good hit
@@cosneanumatei5117 Grimlock's realistically the only one capable of applying enough brute force to fatally wound Predaking.
@@concept5631 I think Grimlock is the only one who can effortlessly defeat predaking.
Ultimate enemy Miko with a box full of scarplets.
Don’t forget Jack.
I agree
the Scraplets would probably be fried before they could do anything.
@@accountoffline4960 Good point
What about me
As much as I loved the inclusion of the reimagined Predacons, I always felt that it was a missed opportunity to not bring Autobot worthy counterparts, like I don’t know, the freaking DINOBOTS!
"Me Grimlock LOVE challenge!"
They didn’t because Grimlock would win easily lol.
@@bluememe4652nice try
@@flyingmollusk6388 Nha Grimlock wouldn't win easly but he's the only one that has killed predacons
There was a comic where the Dinobots faced the Predecons and another Predaking level one.
I feel like Grimlock could be a worthy opponent.
@@puppzyzz Yeah, pretty much.
Rid grimlock
@@matthewzhang6471 No, FOC Grimlock.
tidal wave, hes waay bigger
FOC grimlock wipes the floor with predaking.
I would like to mention that if I remember correctly, Soundwave was pretty much the second strongest 'con in the pits. Couple that with his groundbridges providing more agility.
He did look a lot bulkier in the past though
@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 soundwave was very strong in tfp, he threw around wheeljack and arachnid
@@FUnnyReddits716 that's true right haha. he must have been even more intimidating in the past
@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 yep
@@MogusMasterSaikawa22
I'm pretty sure those were minicons
Alternate title: how starscream killed the predacons
By luck, stumbling into a cannon that hit them...
LORD Starscream
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That show has been confirmed to be non-canon, thank Primus
@@gem9535 wait RID is now non cannon to aligned continuity?
your opponent's strength is his weakness. most snipers can't win a fistfight. most powerlifters cant win a race. no one can is stronger than predaking. but that also means predaking never had to learn how to properly fight.
You ever heard of grimlock pal?
@@cosneanumatei5117 doesn't the same hold true for him? which incarnate of the character are we talking about.
Yeah. Unless your a Marine or a Navy seal, being overly muscular isn't going to help you.
@JACOB WORTHINGTON bingo. all strength is reltive.
@JACOB WORTHINGTON correct however drift is kinda an odd choice
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So arcee is something like a velociraptor attacking? Small, fast, has blades, just open a lot of small wounds and let the beast bleed to death, that's the same thing raptors did back in the day
Not exactly. Raptors mainly sustained themselves on smaller bite sized prey and their foot slaws are more for holding down/ holding onto the prey then killing it. Their claws have a point, but no cutting or serrated edge.
Jurassic park raptors maybe
Except said hide is super thick and her little blades would do nothing as wheeljack a very fast and skilled autobot did nothing and even megatrons blade
I think it's worth mentioning that Airachnid also has a lot of experience hunting "endangered species" throughout the galaxy. It's possible that plenty of her victims were extremely dangerous organisms, and that she has experience taking a fight for survival seriously when necessary.
I also wonder how much more dangerous she would be in a fight against a Predacon if we factored in her Terrorcon energon-draining ability, as well as her ability to telepathically command all insecticons whenever she is conscious (and the fact that they seem to serve her of their own accord to a degree as well).
So effectively: Predacons are less durable, but can fight without as many restrictions in Beast Mode, and far more difficult to harm, but lack access to many of their most damaging skills in Robot Mode.
Beast form Predaking:tanks a whole energon mine withought injuries*
Humanoid form Predaking:gets stunned from Starscream's rocket*
For the fight against megatron I would say Megs would have a better chance then you gave him credit for since the fight took place in a confined space.
If the fight took place in something like a gladiatoral arena he would stand a better chance by constantly transforming and shooting from a distance while closing in only when needed. That was likely why he was able to win against those large creatures in flashbacks. As for agility he was seen often seen flipping and jumping in his fights with Optimus, so if say he'd be able dodge the counter fire and clawstrikes
As for soundwave I agree that he would be very fragile in a 1 on 1 but I feel his agility would allow him stay out of the way particularly if he and laserbeak worked in sync they could confuse him and have him struggle to focus on one ( especially since in triage his shot was able to down the jack hammer). It is also important to consider that he can create groundbrigdes at will so he could just continuously transport himself or Prediking to an area that would benefit him in the fight
sound wave superior, predocons inferior
Starscream and airachnid flying towards predaking
Predaking :. Chuckles * im in danger
Predaking is simply the Vegeta of transformers prime.
More like broly
Realistically, I think Beast Hunters Optimus and FOC Grimlock are the 2 characters in the Aligned Continuity with the best chance of defeating Predaking, obviously aside from Omega Supreme and the other giants.
Base TFP Optimus is just as physically built as Ultra Magnus, but the Beast Hunter upgrade ups his speed. With his hands alone, Optimus was able to hold Predaking's jaws away from his head. In robot form, Optimus laid down a pretty devastating onslaught of punches and eventually gained the upper ground by head-butting the beast, proving that Optimus Prime's physical build and intelligence combined is more than a match for Predaking.
FOC Grimlock is even larger than base TFP Optimus, and when comparing base TFP Optimus to TFP Megatron and Predaking, Grimlock easily towers over his opponent. For one, Grimlock is very heavily armoured with a flaming sword and the ability to activate a Primal Rage, a level of anger so great that it overrides Grimlock's mind in beast mode. His flames are also hot enough to match Megatron, so a Primal Raged Grimlock is easily able to down Predaking.
Power surge starscream too and steeljaw with all 3 decipticon hunters
@@Salman-cx8ui I was more focusing on base forms, but yes, that is true as well.
Can we just talk about how cool starscream hitting predaking with that missile was? That shit hit him in the back in bot form and still heavily injured him
The shots predaking emits from his blasters in bot mode are derived from the same plasma flame which he breaths in beast mode just in a more potent and compact blast rather than a wide spread beam of fire
Which makes it far more dangerous to me
Yes my emperor has returned
Metroplex could DEFINETELY kill predaking by flicking him so hard he gets yeeted at a building killing him easily.
I'm pretty sure Metroplex could kill a lot of things.
Yeah no crap buddy.
Metroplax is literally the size of most cybertrons/iacons towers he can do a lot of things to something that small compared to him
I could build a suburb in metroplex and he wouldn't even noticed. You'd need two combiners to stand a chance.
And peaple agreed that predaking is the strongest in Cybertronian in the universe pfft 🙄.
You forget one detail... Star saber. Even predacon can't handle this deadly relic
Probably not the actual blade but the slash of energy it could survive
Optimus prime once survived the dark star saber energy blast so predeking is more than capable of surviving it
@@username.exenotfound2943 yeah but we actually don't see full power of star saber in the series. Megatron once assumed dark star saber as "capable of tear this world apart", so character with star saber is actually a planet buster level
@@kovval8835 its not like he would ever use its full power also the dark saber also has less abilities than the star saber like when megatron fought prime on cybertron where prime seemingly super charged the star saber
@@username.exenotfound2943 Optimus survived because the matrix protects against dark energon attacks
@@username.exenotfound2943 Doesn't matter which one has more abbilities when Megatron easily broke the Star Saber with his Dark Star Saber , that is the only that matters
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Americans: this robo dragon is 41 washing machines wide!
Those must be some THICCC washing machines
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I would love to see Predaking against FOC or G1 Grimlock, but a truly challenging fight would be Predaking against TM2 Dinobot with his spark healed. TM2 Dinobot not only has the speed advantage, and blades sharper than any in Transformers Prime, but that spark of his means that he could keep in the fight almost forever.
I would want to see predaking tfp vs predaking G1
Step one: NEVER fight a predacon up close.
Step two: use powerful ranged weapons not based on energy. I highly recommend railguns
What about regular metallic projectiles like a anti armour round. Not energy based and can likely damage a predacon seriously
@@vyktorehon5995 if emperor kumquat's "days forgotten" fanfic is to be considered canon, then presumably yes, projectile weapons can and do indeed hurt predacons.
Human made railguns, if sufficiently advanced could give predacons a real reason to stay away.
Love how some of these points are used in yer one fanfic! Thanks for the informative video, and mass change has been mentioned in Rescue Bots Academy, so good ole' Disaligned Miscontinuity is striking again
Dinosaur against dragon seems like a good shot
Grimlock would probably have a fair chance
Especially if its FOC grimlock since he has a very high chance of winning
Me Grimlock crush fakelock
16:15 Starscream just starts flying (some how) trough time and space to get away from a predacon
I guess, this fight isn't about 1vs1, since it's same to fight a bear. I mean, Predaking just too strong, to get him in single fight. It is possible, that Optimus and Megatron would win if they are armed with Star/Dark Star Sabers. Also, let's just imagine, that Optimus/Dreadwing/Ultramagnus would use unstable synth energon(Megatron excluded, since he may turn into a zombie). I mean if Ratchet with all his weakness after injection can easily beat down most of Desepticons, then what will these 3 mentioned above will?
I think FOC Grimlock would beat Predaking in a single fight, plus both are in the aligned continuity. FOC Grimlock was properly trained and led his team meanwhile Predaking wasn’t, being able to bash his opponents however he wanted due to his strength, and considering FOC Grimlock is also around the same strength, size, and power as Predaking… let’s just say it’s lights out for a certain Predacon.
Not mention he sent a predacon running when he was in primal rage and took his whole team stop or calm Grimlock down
The Star Saber would mess up literally anyone who's not Primus or Unicron. Predaking might be able to take a few hits, but he's up against weapons that let the wielders cut mountains in half as easily as breathing.
@@HOLDENPOPE prima also defeated predaking and made him so sacred
Somehow, I knew you were gonna say that Starscream would be able to kill a Predacon lol
Glass cannons over tanks, I guess.
Airachnid = Crowd Control
Interesting to know that Seekers stand a good chance against Predacons, even if most of them might turn tail and flee.
If only bots could be controlled like Pokémon, then they wouldn't have to think about their feelings, they would just act XD
Great video, as always! :)
Considering Predaking was created to be strong while Grimlock has centuries of combat experience under his belt, it’s pretty obvious who would win if they fought
I think it would be a close battle. But grimlocks experience would help him get an advantage.
@@halfknight2310 I think so too, but if you think about it, when it comes to skill, Predaking is basically Homelander. And we all know how skill issue is one of Homelander’s weaknesses
If megatron actually got that dark star saber, he would've kicked predaking's ass right there in that corridor
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Get Grimlock. Fight fire with fire. Literally and figuratively XD
The way you described the predacon’s forms reminds me of aegislash, who also has an offensive mode and defensive mode. In general, great video as always!
This is awesome, really works that they have advantages gained and lost from their chosen modes in a fight.
Like an option for defense or offense modes in battle unlike the regular cybertronians who use vehicle modes more to travel or evade attacks.
I never noticed it before. This is good material!
This video reminded me of how OP Arachnid's kit is lmao. CC capabilities with the web, damage overtime with her toxins, agility/flexibility with her extra spider arms and honestly, summoning abilities too with her Insecticons.
No wonder they got rid of her as soon as they got the opportunity lmao it's hell to deal with her
I really feel like she’s a perfect example with Arcee of the "less is more". They may be tiny asf but actually super strong
Am I the only one now thinking that Predaking's robot mode is left handed due to the increased variety of shots showing him using it?
Something to note is that predaking survived a mine full of energon exploding mostly unscathed while in beast mode. I doubt any one bot has the ability to take him down.
Beast wars Megatron Vs predaking would be sick af
If we go with BW Megs in his BW scale, would be way smaller with less fire power. His only advantages would be stradegy, fighting skills and battle sense. Same goes to all his 3 bodies he had trough the show. He might now be able to win on his own against Predaking, but if he utilises everything he has, including all predacon troops and arsenal, he would win.
Megatron did say he should have fought him like a beast. At least he was honest about Killin him😂
Except he would have likely died either way if not for starscream it's him coping
This is great really detailed. But about Soundwave I don't think he is weak. He almost killed Megatron in the Pits after all.
Soundwave is the only transformer in the series, I believe, to have never lost a duel. He got defeated by being shadowzoned, not by losing a duel. He defeated Airachnid multiple times, the wreckers (to be fair, that had more to do with his ground bridge tricks and can't be considered a duel), Wheeljack, and even Optimus (with the jet pack). He got shot down in Minus One by chance.
I recall that Prima was able to defeat a Predacon with his star saber in the early days of cybertron
A battle between fall of cybertron Grimlock and transformers prime Predaking would be glorious a true battle between two Kings of the beasts. 😆💪
Many of these strategies can be used when hunting Dinobots. Thank you for the video!!!
"the eyes are everyone's weak spot." What about Soundwave then?
yeah he had his visor cracked by Wheeljack and was practically unaffected (yeah it wasn't a huge crack but still)
You forgot something... "Soundwave superior"
He has no weaknesses.
I always thought that a tiny purple square at the top of Soundwave's display screen is his actual eye, so theoretically it's still a weak spot, even though it's very hard to hit
How to beat predaking:
Outsmart him
This was really fun to watch. I think that any seeker probably has the best chance. They’d have to out fly them, ground them and then air superiority should help them win.
It's a risky move but what if a seeker with missals like Starscream's waited for Predaking to try to shoot fire at them in his beast mode and shoot a missile into his mouth while it was open?
It might work but it needs a pretty brave seeker to do that and starscream ain't it cheif
@@omarsalem1219 Yeah and the timing would have to be spot on.
What if a second bot distracted the Predacon/restrained it ?
If the Predacons focus was shifted onto another target, the seeker would have a window of oppertunity to aim properly.
@@justsomewritingfan2202 That could work.
@@omarsalem1219 XD.
"Predaking! You might have defeated Megatron...but now, you have to face...MENASOR!" *heavy metal intensifies*
Oh come on, Menasor would swat predaking like a fly.
Alternatively, find a BFG in an old Darkmount, press a lucky button and instakill two Predacons at once.
This video has made me want an extremely violent Transformers show like the Michael Bay films without the 'enemy scrotum'. Weapons are designed to kill. Basically, a Transformers version of Saving Private Ryan.
Starscream always wants more power but it really has enough he's nimble he's agile he's fast and sometimes is retractable claws can make very great weapons this mean weaknesses that he's just far too darn scared!
Megatron knows this too and is scared shitless of a confident Starscream.
We need Grimlock, the world needs it.
am I the only one that thinks shockwave might win cause he has the highest chance knowing Predaking's weekness
he also survive from all the dead predacons and can hit them down with one blast
As a person who also loves giant monster fights I can imagine predaking and trypticon fighting that’ll be awesome id also say mechagodzilla but that’s probably way too strong
And Godzilla would just be overkill
@@janniepate5533 you got a point 👆
Trypticon, Omega Supreme, or one of the city bots like Metroplex would all CRUSH Predaking with their size, firepower and strength.
@@justanormalhttydfan9804 well yes they’re technically titans
@@janniepate5533 metroplex Easily Destroys godzilla
Ya i feel like we are all forgetting psychology warfare with these guys.
It’s 11 PM for me, please I need sleep...
It’s only 11? Damn it’s 2:30 for me. Where r ya from?
Ikr
Its 12
Thank you Subtitle Vehicons, very cool!
If we are to defeat the Predacons, we must become Transformers: Prime: Beast Hunters.
Let's not also forget that Prima single handedly beat the original predaking.
For your first powerscaling video it wasn't bad. I was disappointed you didn't mention hardshell, insecticons in general, grimlock, and synth-en amped ratchet
Ah shit insecticons would be pretty great.
Not sure if Synth-en Ratchet would work though he'd just be faster and hit harder but his durability stays the same, and when megatron can counter him I think the more ruthless fighting Predacons would do the same.
Tfp hardshell would be a decent match since he blew shock waves when he was punching wheel jack to death
Also a hit or two from shock waves cannon also from tfp would be doing some dmg
@@cosneanumatei5117 foc hardshell and tfp hardshell are the same character even if they litterally look nothing alike.
@@cosneanumatei5117 bro hardshell whoud get murdered
@@War__robots not really. Yes he would get beaten since we're talking about predaking but hardshell is a good match in power, at least in robot mode. In beast mode predaking just ravages. Foc grimlock would murder predaking tho.
Thanks, this video was a lifesaver!
thanks for info. Now I can give a lesson to predaking who bullied me.
NGL Predacons are just that cool and deserve to be over powered af
15:36 I 100% agree with you on that I hate going against arachnid
Another reason that Airachnid could win is because she can comand the entire insecticon army.
theyll just get fried
@@AA-tz2bm fair point, somehow didn’t think of that.
@@AA-tz2bm could be used as a distraction
If predacons are so powerful than i guess the maximals really had their hands full during beast wars.
Mild take: A briefed squad of MECH Commandos could've probably offed a Predacon. Given MECH's technological and militaristic tenacity, plus the fact that they seemed to custom-tailor their weapons and equipment for specific hostiles (or at the very least have multifunctional weapons such as that fancy autorifle/stungun hybrid), I'd wager that any moderately informed squad of them could likely have bagged one or two, depending on who's turf they'd have been hashing it out on. Besides, the Predacons would've in all likelihood grossly underestimated them for being smaller. Predaking, however, would have likely required much more extensive firepower. Probably a good bit of air support, like with those stun-beam helicopters, since you mentioned typical stun strikes only seem to disturb him. Oh, and you can totally bet they'd have butchered any fallen Predacons to further their own weaponry- and given how quickly they broke the code to transformation, it would not have been unrealistic to say they probably would've made some hybrid Damocles-Predacon artillery platform.
Of course, Silas in all his glowing brain genius offed what appeared to be the entirety of MECH as far as TFP is concerned so we'll never know, and you know what? I'm alright with that. Pipedream fantasies are my favorite pastime.
i do not want to correct you but in one scene shockwave is very fast and also shockwave created them so they most likely wont attack them but i do like how you still added the possibility
Soundwave provokes predaking into charging him and gets BFR'd by a groundbridge.
*Title:* how to fight a predicon!
*Me at 3 am knowing I will never encounter one:* well, well, well, let's find out
Facing Starscream in aerial combat is a one way ticket to pain city
Especially if it's TFP Starscream
The one Optimus beat, who Predaking beat? Yeah okay
Airachnid is definitely gonna lose if Soundwave is around just like last time that they both fought and plus i just want to see Soundwave rip off Airachnid limbs hearing her scream in pain while Soundwave just gives the audience the chills seeing him being silent enjoying ripping off Airachnid limbs just like Jazz when he was split in 2
The only one sadistic enough to maim people without being in a rage would be Airachnid herself - so don't expect your fantasy of seeing the arguably most evil character of the show be slowly killed like that come true.
Thank you, Subtitle Predacons for reminding me of Subtitles
This is a very in depth video and I like that you go over the details of the pro's and con's of both beast form and bot form. However there is one point that I don't entirely agree with, is that beast mode is any more vulnerable than bot form. Hear me out. So let's say that every cybertronian has multiple layers of armor plating, with most having only two layers. For a predacon It is more than likely that they would have three to four, so when they transform into beast mode the majority of the armor plating is thinned out and extended, however the internals would still be closely protected by the final layer. This would still make large empty spaces where the out layer could be easily pierced, however these large empty spaces would still provide protection by combining the distance needed to reach the internals and the still present inner layer of armor. This is akin to the spaced armor present on tanks or armored compartments of a warship. This leads me to believe that a predacon's beast mode would be just as if not more difficult to land a lethal blow than bot form.
TFP Prime: Today we face the monsters at our door, and bring the fight to them…! Today we are cancelling the apocalypse!!!
Season 1 and maybe season 2 Starscream would be good at fighting against predaking but season 3 Starscream is too anxious and paranoid
so what I am hearing is, instead of lasers they should be using conventional anti-tank munitions; like 30mm autocannon rounds, High Explosive tank slugs and Anti-Tank missiles to eliminate the Predacons quickly, I mean the Autobots have a contact with the US Gov so supplying them shouldn't really be a problem
I have to argue with saying shockwave needs help as he knows everything about predacons
When preadicon king overconfidence was mentioned, I thought of g1 skylynx.
Soundwave can just open a space bridge and teleport the predacon into a black hole or something kinda like how he just teleported arachnid to cybertrons moon
5:18
I just noticed Predaking's wound on his chest when he got shot by Megatron.
When he mentioned the wii game I cried lol haven’t played that in years
“A nuke(bagel)”
“NOOO THATS NOT THE POINT!”
“2 nukes”
“GaaaaaaHhhHh”
Airachnid is so overpowered. Her agility, range of motion, webs, control over the Insecticons, venom, acid and new Terrorcon powers would probably let her 1v1 any of the Predacons, though not without difficulty.
Ultimately though, the most overpowered non-god character in TFP is Soundwave. You don't get much more broken than literally controlling space itself with your mind.
6:39 ooh foreshadowing for mercy
Imagine the entire insecticon hive vs the predaking
Well according to Shockwave the predacons were thought to not have reached the transformation stage so they were always a beast
I can picture a game were theres just starscream tryhards fighting predacons lol
Yeah my only disagreement is Soundwave, he would own Predaking's bot form because electricity is shown to hurt the predacons more when they're in bot form (see starscream with Skylynx and Darksteel, yes I know they're weaker than predaking but their internal biology will be the same as his) and he's agile enough to avoid his blasts, his best bet would be to trick Predaking into charging him and doing what he did with Airachnid and bridge him somewhere far away/fatal. Beast form is basically the same strategy, the only thing shown to shoot him out of the sky in the show was Optimus' minigun (which fires super fast, super strong blasts, super well.. fast) so Predaking would have to get up close and personal and well, Predaking's shown to be easily tricked into flying into bridges.
edit: yes I might be a bit of a Soundwave stan, how'd you know?
I love the concept of these predacons! If this series had another season instead of moving into RID, I bet (or at least hope) that Abominus would be introduced as Predaking and his race try to finish what the decepticons refused to finish. This would only be possible if the events of transformers RID never happened…
Not present in the show, but I honestly think that Grimlock could take down Predaking in a head-on fight.
Auto-Cons and DeceptiBots have magic and strength and bravery. If they existed in the Transformers series, then a fight between Auto-Cons and predacons would be cool!
I really love your videos
I’m not surprised that slicing him in beast mode would his weakness. It plays into the classic knight slaying the dragon with a sword thing
Prima Prime himself took Predaking down during his time before the great cataclysm
I'm honestly not too surprised that the agile ones can stand a better chance against the beast forms than others. It reminds me of Link from the Legend of Zelda series taking down humongous bosses. Great video! ^u^👍⭐️