The Silver Goal Rule: UEFA's Forgotten Experiment

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
  • Next Goal Wins ... kind of - Football’s history is packed with rules that made sense… and some that didn’t quite hit the mark. Cue the Silver Goal rule, a forgotten chapter that graced our beloved game for a brief and unremarkable (for the most part) stint in the early 2000s. What was the Silver Goal? How was it supposed to improve extra time + penalties? And, most importantly, And why did it vanish faster than your pre-season optimism?
    In this video, we dive into how Silver Goal came about, how it differed from the Golden Goal, and why UEFA thought it would stop teams from parking the bus. From matches that saw the rule in action (and for the most part ignored), to the head-scratching announcement of its demise before Euro 2004, to how it created a defining moment that helped shape Greece's underdog story of said tournament. Join us for a trip down memory lane to one of football’s oddest rule changes.
    If you want more silly football history, make sure to check out my previous video, "Why did Everton move from Anfield to Goodison Park?"
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  • @cd.knuckles
    @cd.knuckles 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +303

    i was there in the Greece v Czech Rep match in 2004, silver goal legit got the crowd confused

    • @hiranom20
      @hiranom20 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂

  • @kidcharlemagne3044
    @kidcharlemagne3044 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +558

    Whenever the issues of extra-time and penalties come up in conversation, I find it important to remind ourselves just how much better they are than all the alternatives.

    • @Gio10Per
      @Gio10Per 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      "Previous" alternatives*
      It's actually real simple to work out a better rule than penalties. It's just not in the plans of mafia organisations who are running football at the minute. But their time is running out...

    • @metro3313
      @metro3313 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      ​@@Gio10Per Then name a better alternative

    • @Gio10Per
      @Gio10Per 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @metro3313 I'm definitely not going to share such information on a random comment section online. Original ideas are extremely valuable.
      I'll name it, at the right time... it's all in the plan.

    • @SneakyDino7
      @SneakyDino7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

      ​​@@Gio10Perkinda sounds like you don't have a clue what you're talking about mate

    • @noggin6870
      @noggin6870 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@metro3313lmao, imagine being so delusional that you actually think your ideas for football extra time have any actual value whatsoever

  • @oweyy_
    @oweyy_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +226

    love the quality mate, nice FM part too

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Cheers! They're a complete pain to make, but glad people enjoy them

  • @Ixa1710
    @Ixa1710 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    The transition at 3:44 from a scale to the midfield of the pitch was so well thought of, props to the animator.

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Cheers! Glad little moments like that are appreciated

  • @duc_inert
    @duc_inert 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +276

    I feel like the silver goal could have benefited from better wording. Instead of trying to express it in the same way as the golden goal, just say that it splits extra time into two separate parts, and whoever leads at the end of one wins the match

    • @thesuomi8550
      @thesuomi8550 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      Yeah it's really just two extra times instead of one

    • @SwanRonsonDonnyJepp
      @SwanRonsonDonnyJepp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They did......Hence Silver goal 😂

    • @denizakogul
      @denizakogul 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Basketball extra time

    • @AH-be6bu
      @AH-be6bu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Not to mention that silver goal makes it sound like a worse version of the golden goal. Almost like they didn't really try to market it properly.

    • @richjhart
      @richjhart หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@SwanRonsonDonnyJepp but calling it silver goal focuses on the goal, not the extra time.
      What would it be called if a team won 2-0 in the first 15 minutes of extra time... Two Silver goals? It should just be that they won 2-0 after 1 period of extra time.

  • @laletraf5568
    @laletraf5568 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    I always thought of the silver goal in the same way I think of Overtime in basketball. If the first Overtime ends in a draw(in this case the first 15 minutes of extra time), you go to double Overtime(the second half of extra time), but if you win in the first Overtime it's over.

    • @trwijbenga
      @trwijbenga 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That makes sense

    • @mahiru20ten
      @mahiru20ten 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And NFL's overtime is like a hybrid of it. First team to score a touchdown in overtime wins the game.

    • @BaldandBeefy
      @BaldandBeefy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@mahiru20ten that's just golden goal

    • @mahiru20ten
      @mahiru20ten 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @BaldandBeefy Not exactly - the game can only end in a touchdown. If one side gets the point in other ways like a field goal, the game will still continue until either other side scores a touchdown or the 15 minute period ends.

    • @Zergul_Zai
      @Zergul_Zai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@mahiru20tenwho even plays it

  • @ryansmith1044
    @ryansmith1044 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    The failure of Golden Goal and Silver Goal proved that footballers and coaches are more afraid of losing than they are motivated to win. It's why they had to make wins worth 3 points.

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ....NOT FAILURE BUT *PUTTING DOWN A very GOOD INITIATIVE* !!
      .......FOR THOSE WHO ISNT A FAN BUT JUST WATCHES!!

  • @Somerandomblokefromreading
    @Somerandomblokefromreading 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I love this channel, the animation is amazing. As a fellow FM player, the 2D/Mobile esqe animation is amazing.

    • @benficademacaufan
      @benficademacaufan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I really liked the 2d fm match engine animation too

  • @woolver42
    @woolver42 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For me it was mostly a naming problem. I grew up with Golden Goal. It was normal for me. So suddenly having a silver one felt less grand. Like the cheap knockoff of the great Golden Goal of Bierhoff fame.

  • @dennisbrannvalls1fan964
    @dennisbrannvalls1fan964 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Wow this channel is so underrated. What an absolute gold gem!

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you're enjoying it! Thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment

  • @BoringExtrovert
    @BoringExtrovert 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    One quirk of the silver goal is exactly what happened in that Greece goal. Had Greece scored their goal only a few minutes later, Czechia would still have the chance to equalize.

  • @nkskro80
    @nkskro80 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Nice mention of my club there. I think we were the first club to win a game using the golden goal rule

  • @picklerick1080
    @picklerick1080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I suspect this channel will be huge soon. Keep up the work! The graphics are stellar.

  • @PleadsDS
    @PleadsDS หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love to see this perspective from a knowledgeable football fan, as a fan of hockey where every playoff game can turn into a 7 hour marathon until one team scores. While not personally a fan of ET+pens, I think it makes the most sense for the sport compared to the alternatives.

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PleadsDS i grew up with football and only as an adult moved to a country where ice hockey was popular. I have absolutely no idea how hockey fans can tolerate or even enjoy the fact that extra time could be infinite. I also don't understand what is wrong with regular season games simply ending up in a tie. Extra time and penalties are fun and dramatic only when they don't happen all the time

  • @caseysilkwood47
    @caseysilkwood47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This channel has very rapidly become one of my all-time favorite football channels on youtube. Keep up the excellent work, mate!

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you're enjoying the channel! Thanks for taking the time to comment, and hopefully there's more for you to enjoy soon

  • @lewisfarrar7411
    @lewisfarrar7411 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Make the penalty spot a yard or two farther away to bring the xG down from 0.78 to 0.5. This will eliminate goalkeepers guessing which way to dive thus reducing the luck element to shoot outs

    • @pumelelabanca1442
      @pumelelabanca1442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep. This I agree with.

    • @Donald_the_Potholer
      @Donald_the_Potholer หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kind of like American Gridiron had to move the single-point kick back to the 15 yard line to equalize the risk-reward versus the two-point scrimmage attempt.

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lewisfarrar7411 i agree with that. I would take penalties from the edge of the box, about two meters behind where the penalty spot is today.
      Or stop constantly changing the rules in favour of the kicker and against the goalkeeper. Allow the goalkeeper to move slightly forward before the kick unless he is visibly taking the piss (as it used to be the case before VAR) for example.

  • @Ανδρέας-ΓεώργιοςΣκίννερ
    @Ανδρέας-ΓεώργιοςΣκίννερ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Loved your «λεωφορείο». You're still a new creator but damn you're already in the GOAT conversation.

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That is very kind of you, thanks! Hopefully I didn't butcher the pronunciation of the word!

    • @Istorian
      @Istorian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You did a bit, but don't worry, we love you anyway! Great content mate! 😎

  • @AlexanderGreensmith
    @AlexanderGreensmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Congratulations to Greece for winning the Silver Goal Trophy… and Euro 2004.

  • @mohemida
    @mohemida 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really appreciate the way of presentation especially with the little easter eggs

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheers! Appreciate the feedback. Hopefully more on the way soon

  • @thingswillbealright
    @thingswillbealright 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Brilliant video, another fun and quakity video. This is what the great Tifo football used to be. Keep going mate

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you as always!

  • @adebolabloke6962
    @adebolabloke6962 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Greece Czech Republic game was so funny in the sense that for once silver goal applied but Czech Republic had almost no time

  • @edoten7306
    @edoten7306 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:44 thought at first it was a joke or some kind of friendly game. After a little search, i think that tournament had the best sponsorship naming of all! (the Milk Cup is my favorite one)

  • @Matthew-bu7fg
    @Matthew-bu7fg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I'd still love the MLS 1v1 as opposed to the penalty kick. Players would have to show far more composure and there'd be no silly stuttering.

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It worked on early MLS because players were awful. Hardly a single top player on modern football would miss those shotouts.

    • @Statsy10
      @Statsy10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ultimately, even the MLS abandoned it, so I'm guessing it isn't the solution either.

    • @justinjamieson5180
      @justinjamieson5180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Statsy10The main reason they abandoned it though was to get in line with international rules, not necessarily because they didn't like the rule.

    • @justinjamieson5180
      @justinjamieson5180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It was also tied into their desire to not have draws during league matches feeling that Americans wouldn't accept them

  • @joandestructor576
    @joandestructor576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These videos are so good man, keep it up

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheers! Thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment

  • @88porpoise
    @88porpoise หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The one idea whwre a Golden Goal counted as two goals should have been kept. A great incrlentive for a team to win before going to shoot outs.
    And the occasions where one team is trying to score on both goals at the same time and the other team is defending both sides of the field is just gravy.

  • @adebolabloke6962
    @adebolabloke6962 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone else remember Turkey v Czech Republic 2008? If Turkey hadn't won it in injury time then they would have had a penalty shootout after 90 mins

  • @lorraine5846
    @lorraine5846 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank god algorithm recommended me your vids instantly subbed your channel is amazing mate good luck in the future

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Welcome aboard! Thanks for subscribing and glad you're enjoying the channel!

  • @asteroid7483
    @asteroid7483 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    really love that fm thingy you did there, i do wonder how much pain did it take lol

  • @IvoryPeng73638
    @IvoryPeng73638 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very high quality!

  • @Adrian-xb5fq
    @Adrian-xb5fq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Adore your use of and talent with motion graphics!! Everything else brilliant as well - script, conciseness, educational quality, production value, etc

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is some incredibly kind feedback - appreciate you stopping by to watch and comment!

    • @Adrian-xb5fq
      @Adrian-xb5fq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RouteNone of course!

  • @oppenz3723
    @oppenz3723 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing works as always, thank you for your very interesting and informative video on football history.

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully more of the same coming soon!

  • @Nic3yi
    @Nic3yi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant work as usual, I almost forgot this rule hence I was still very young at that time. Besides the great content and fascinating MG animation, I really enjoy your commentary style and clear voice speech(English is not my first language) so it might make me hard to understand what they are talking about sometimes when I hear some commenter/TH-camr who speaks very fast or with a strong accent(no offence) Keep it up, you really deserve more subscribers!

  • @leftismer
    @leftismer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as usual. Learning new stuff too. Like it how it's not flashy but informative. Thanks. Keep them coming. If it is not a one man show I mean. If it is kudos to you. Take your time. Every video is great.

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much for the positive feedback! The channel is a one man band for the moment, so I'm not able to produce content as fast as I would like (TH-cam is not my full time job), but hopefully more of the same coming soon!

  • @Kinggrave
    @Kinggrave 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to know how you make these videos? Like I love the 30 frame animation, just makes it look so much nicer. Great video as per man 👏👏

  • @adli15_
    @adli15_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video again as always Personally feel the extra time-penalty setup we have is good now. What needs to be looked at instead is improving other officiating technologies used (VAR I'm looking at you).

  • @bosnianmapper403
    @bosnianmapper403 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:44 Auto Windscreens Shields Trophy is the most funniest name for a cup i've ever heard 😅

  • @amaansyed27
    @amaansyed27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes!! I was waiting for your next video

  • @chefj523
    @chefj523 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always liked the sliver goal rule, it rewards the team the played better in the extra time earlier on

  • @8blademaster
    @8blademaster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man I love these videos, it's like washing Jon Bois/Alex Rubenstein for a sport I am trying to learn more about

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you're enjoying them! Thanks for subscribing and taking the time to comment

  • @recklessdude777
    @recklessdude777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope this goes on to win the Ballon d'Or of football channels on TH-cam, quality content 💜🔥🔥

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers! I'm going to boycott it if I don't finish first.

  • @idktbh11234
    @idktbh11234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    field hockey now does a penalty shootout where you run from 20 metres and get eight seconds and i think its a pretty good compromise, about half go in/half are saved.

    • @dashtoroya2838
      @dashtoroya2838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      MLS introduced that in their penalty shootout

  • @LockeDemosthenes2
    @LockeDemosthenes2 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They still do this in the NHL playoffs. If a game is tied at the end of regulation, they just keep playing extra periods until someone eventually scores. The problem is that this can easily add 1-2 hours to a game, especially in low scoring, defensive games. There have been several playoff games that have lasted for 3+ overtime periods, so they were more than double the length of a normal game. Say that a game starts at 8pm, this means that it would normally end at about 10:30 or 11. With three OT's, now it's not ending until 1 or 2 am.
    I'm not a huge fan of determining wins with shootouts, but they really should just play one extra period and then go to a shootout if the game is still tied.

  • @PHDiaz-vv7yo
    @PHDiaz-vv7yo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still remember this in Euro 2004 and after Postiga equalised and Campbell’s disallowed effort before the end of the 90. Can’t recall
    Much from 91-105 mins for a silver goal. Then the second half of extra time exploded with Rui Costa pushing Portugal into the lead- but not a golden goal allowing Thooper Fwank to equalise. And later ushering in another England penalty shootout loss

  • @Tillyard86
    @Tillyard86 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I came to the comments hoping to see further discussion of the silver goal, but instead, it is just people gushing over how well-made the video is; nice, I guess, but what about the topic of the video?
    Anyway, the interesting thing about sudden death is that it’s been a thing in American Football for years, and many fans have hated it for a while now because it means that the first team to get the ball often wins straight away.
    I think the penalty shoot-out is the thing that needs fixing. Do the thing they have in hockey and have them dribble the ball towards the goal from further back with about ten seconds to put it in the goal. It's much more chancy and exciting to watch.

    • @ivanmajic8794
      @ivanmajic8794 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He mentions something similar at the end, the american 35 yard shootouts, those look fun

    • @geoffroi-le-Hook
      @geoffroi-le-Hook หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the NASL ca. 1980, after two golden-goal overtimes of 30 minutes each, there were five rounds of a shootout from 35 yards out with a 5-second time limit. The Chicago Sting won both the conference final and the Soccer Bowl final in a shootout in 1981.
      Offsides was only counted inside the 35 as well.

  • @ridzuanhamzah3033
    @ridzuanhamzah3033 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nice and informative

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment

  • @dandagames6030
    @dandagames6030 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me as a Czech that silver goal knockout still hurts

  • @52flyingbicycles
    @52flyingbicycles หลายเดือนก่อน

    Association football: having two overtime periods is too confusing!
    Professional gridiron football: you have a coin flip to see who starts with the ball. If they score a touchdown the game is over, but if they only score a field goal the other team gets the ball, and if they tie it up it’s sudden death from there. Except in the playoffs, where both teams always get a chance to score.
    Collegiate gridiron football: so in first overtime each team starts at their opponent’s 25 yard line and tries to score. If it’s still tied they do it again, but if they get a touchdown they have to go for a two point conversion. And after that they just do two point conversions until someone wins.

    • @geoffroi-le-Hook
      @geoffroi-le-Hook หลายเดือนก่อน

      Canadian gridiron football : like the college game, but after two overtime possessions, the game is considered a tie (draw).

  • @ytp3n
    @ytp3n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The idea that the silver goal happening at the end of half time becoming a golden goal could have been prevented by giving extra 10min for the opposing team to react for a tie.

  • @pedrohenriquecarneiro3386
    @pedrohenriquecarneiro3386 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:43 That's last quote about the Silver goal is so funny

  • @vastrashastra
    @vastrashastra 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One change I would like to see in Extra time would be recurring subs meaning Subs made during normal time can play again in Extra time.

  • @Buffalo31
    @Buffalo31 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember the golden goal and quite liked it, but don't think I ever heard about silver goals and feel like it wasn't given a fair trial. It gave us the excitement of Greece winning a title, so might have made some other interesting results since then.😮

  • @VegaPhil
    @VegaPhil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here’s my idea for extra time. The first goal scored in extra time counts double, basically acting like an away goal used to work, so if the opposition then equalise they have to score another goal to win the game or the team that scored first win. Rather than golden or silver goals which potentially end the game early but mostly end up leading to more cautious play due to the greater jeopardy, this puts more emphasis and reward for going for the first goal but still gives the other team a chance of coming back, albeit with a big disadvantage. Might be crap but worth a go I think.

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You get it right in your last sentence, it is a horrible idea.

  • @F1Krazy
    @F1Krazy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    0:19 "The D-word"...? "Drama"? "Don't-let-matches-go-to-penalties"?

    • @MasterTramsYouTube
      @MasterTramsYouTube 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Probably "Draw"...

    • @F1Krazy
      @F1Krazy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@MasterTramsTH-cam lmao dunno how I didn't think of that

    • @Blurifying
      @Blurifying 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      diddy

    • @maikol05
      @maikol05 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Draw i think

  • @tysonplett3328
    @tysonplett3328 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As a Canadian hockey fan, I struggle to understand the arguments against golden goal extra time, since that's always been the rule in hockey. To me it's way more exciting and climactic to end a game that exceeded the allotted time by scoring the tie-breaking goal. Also, if we're trying to avoid penalties, why give the other team a chance to level? That just leads to another tie.

    • @Ssweis23
      @Ssweis23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's stated in the video. Fatigue and player safety means the match will eventually have to go to penalties anyway. Not knowing the end of the match is hell for stadium safety and traffic. Most importantly, when Golden Goal was actually implemented, it caused teams not to go for the goal and play boring defensive football to not concede. Silver goal is definitely worse, though.
      Hockey is probably very different. It's a much smaller field of play so defensive tactics can still give you the opportunity to go forward and try to score without giving up as much solidity as you would in football.

    • @LMC2009DOTA
      @LMC2009DOTA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Because football/soccer and hockey have many differences (and some similarities). The extra time has teams play extra 30 mins with already fatigued players (even though we have extra subs today in extra time), which in most of the cases we have Very defensive/conservative playing in Extra Time, leading to penalties anyway. Remember, we have limited subs in football, and it is already a very long game without pauses. A salute from a hockey enthusiast from Brasil.

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you watch the video? The video explains exactly why

  • @jeanmahram
    @jeanmahram 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it! thanks for your hard work. Also gotta throw in Ilhan Mansiz v Senegal 2002 Golden Goal 😉

    • @jeanmahram
      @jeanmahram 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol! you just mentioned it 👌

  • @goncalofreitas2094
    @goncalofreitas2094 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible content 👏👏

  • @jmace86
    @jmace86 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the best way to decide a match after normal time would be to have the usual 30 minutes of added time but each team has to remove a player from the field of play then every 3 minutes, both teams have to remove another player, until you are left with just a 1v1 match for the last 3 minutes. If still no-one scores then penalties it is!
    It would be much more exciting and would open up plenty of tactical tweaks for managers to use during it.

  • @aliakseimemelau3
    @aliakseimemelau3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've recently thought of an alternative overtime solution, can't imagine I'm the first one, but I haven't ever seen it being brought up.
    The idea is: in every play-off game teams start with a pre-match penalty shoot-out. Winning team now has an advantage in case of a draw, effectively half a goal. No overtime required.
    Disadvantage - you need to allocate additional time before the match, but the spectacle is there, spectators love penalty shoot-outs, although the stakes are lower in this case. I guess it might be ok as a sort of a warm-up.
    Advantages - penalty shoot-out does not decide the outcome of the match, just tips it in a favor of one team; but the biggest for me, at no point in the game both teams are satisfied with the outcome and willing to let time run (and in some play-off matches now it might be true for the most of all 120 minutes).

    • @justinjamieson5180
      @justinjamieson5180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I get your idea, but the problem is that it's more than just a .5 goal advantage, it's essentially a full goal advantage, meaning that the team that wins the shootout is playing like they are a goal up from the very start, while the losing team is forced to chase the entire match.

  • @trwijbenga
    @trwijbenga 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quality vid mate.

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers! Thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment

  • @explodethebomb
    @explodethebomb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like it's not actually as complicated as some people are making it seem. I'd explain the rule as "if a team is leading at the halfway point of extra time, they win"

  • @94lester
    @94lester 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Commenting for the algo, good work lad.

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanking you to show my appreciation (and the algo) - cheers!

  • @snako3338
    @snako3338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still want back the golden goal
    The only good extra time I remember is the 2022 World Cup final, but apart from that nothing
    The golden goal has way more memorable moments

  • @Donald_the_Potholer
    @Donald_the_Potholer หลายเดือนก่อน

    The way I see it, the problem with Golden Goal and Silver Goal was the fact that the periods in question were finite, and then onto penalties.
    To me, a proper Golden Goal would have *NO* Game Clock during "Extra" Time. You play until a score. Period. *No Penalty Shootouts* Maybe you keep a Game Clock to flip the field every 15 minutes, but that's it.
    Likewise, a proper Silver Goal would not end in Penalties. You just keep playing 15-minute periods until one such period ends with a difference in score.
    Given the wear that infinite games can bring, I accept Penalties as a "necessary evil" in Knockout Rounds where you have to play the next round in a few days (e.g., the World Cup). (Group/League can allow for ties.)
    But, in a Final, there is no "tomorrow" for _either_ side. So, for those games, I find Penalties to be anti-climactic.
    Then again, Golden Goal is too soon and Silver Goal doesn't make sense in that context. Therefore, I'd like to propose:
    *Bronze Goal* : If the score is level at the end of regulation, then play Extra Time as normal until you reach Second Stoppage (120').
    If the score is not level at 120', then play Stoppage time as normal. (Optionally, the game ends if the leaders score _another_ goal prior to the trailers equalizing.)
    If the score is level at 120', or if the trailers equalize during Stoppage, then the clock is _discarded_ and *Next Goal Wins* .
    Bronze Goal would be meant primarily for Finals but could also be used in Knockout Rounds where fixtures are played weeks apart like the UEFA Tourneys. (2nd Leg only for Two-Legged-Ties, of course.)

  • @lester4532
    @lester4532 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They could probably try a half court 7s extra time and then a smaller court 5s extra time, each team gets 10 minutes defending and attacking or just outright punish parking the bus with an equivalent to the eight second violation in Basketball

  • @jamesstewart556
    @jamesstewart556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite format is the Oklahoma rule... if drawn at 90 minutes plus added time, teams immediately do penalties. Winner takes a one goal lead, then they play 30 minutes of extra time where the penalty loser can tie it up (and win).

    • @123Todayy
      @123Todayy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What happens when they tie up in the end of it?

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@123Todayy penalties again I presume? I can't think of another solution

  • @Fjell_Ap1
    @Fjell_Ap1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My classmates and I called it sudden death ☠️when we played football at school. Since we were always interrupted by the school bell, we had the rule of first goal wins

  • @srjt1684
    @srjt1684 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Extra time is still just as boring without golden goal. Teams are knackered and play defensively waiting for penalties. The solution is to go straight to penalties. They are not a lottery. They are all about skill and composure.

  • @TribalGent
    @TribalGent 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All are amazing, imo. I would structure them differently. For example, having the Quater final decided with a golden goal option, the semi with a silver goal option and the final with the traditional extra time and penalty shootout to the end.

  • @guyfaux3978
    @guyfaux3978 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Go straight to kicks. Thirty more minutes in a match is an invitation to players being injured.

  • @TeamYohane
    @TeamYohane 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I rally loved Golden Goal rule, the best celebration of my life was an Golden Goal celebration

  • @ghengilhar
    @ghengilhar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always love that Celtic are a core part of Silver Goal lore

  • @viperV10
    @viperV10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t see why unpredictability is a problem, the existence of extra time makes the game unpredictable as well as stoppages and we don’t know how many penalties are going to be taken in total either

  • @DannyPlaysStuff
    @DannyPlaysStuff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Probably NFL has the weirdest implementation of this. I know it's a completely different sport but hear me out.
    Considering tie game is a bit more uncommon to come about, the NFL have 15-minute overtime (the word for extra time in American sports). The rules being used to decide the winner in NFL is basically a combination of both golden goal and silver goal.
    The overtime rule is that whoever of the two teams competing in the match scored a touchdown first the game ends immediately (which is already egregious considering who's going to attack first is decided by a coin flip), but if the attacking team failed to score a touchdown in their first drive and/or only managed to score a field goal, the other team will get the chance to attack. Only if the same thing happened to the other team on their first overtime drive, the game finally enters proper sudden death, whoever scored points first is the winner.
    If after 15-minute overtime has elapsed and both teams still cannot produce game-ending scores ONLY then the game is declared tie.
    (EDIT : the overtime duration is actually 10 minutes.)

    • @bencebarabas3555
      @bencebarabas3555 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The weirdest thing for me in this is having any kind of extra time/overtime and then still having an option for the game to be tied anyways.

    • @DannyPlaysStuff
      @DannyPlaysStuff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean considering American sports use winning percentages instead of points tally (and the existence of playoff system), that is somewhat understandable.
      What's weird is that among the top 4 American sports, NFL specifically is the only league that allows a tie game. Hockey/NHL doesn't allow tie games anymore since 2005, baseball games have not been allowed to end in a tie since... ever as far as I'm concerned, basketball is basically the same, and even in collegiate level of American football doesn't allow ties.

    • @CrescentCitySweaters
      @CrescentCitySweaters หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DannyPlaysStuff baseball does actually allow ties, but they’re very rare because it’s generally only after rain in the 6th inning or later and when the completion of the game can’t be set to occur the same day as another game between the two teams. Last one was in 2016

  • @thingswillbealright
    @thingswillbealright 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The silver goal... I think it had been used for 2 times.

  • @datopdawg01
    @datopdawg01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 30-minute extra time should be 9 on 9 for the first 15 minutes, then 7 on 7. After 120 minutes, silver goal rules apply with it being 5 on 5 and then 3 on 3 for 30 more minutes. After 150 minutes, an actual shootout more like the old NASL.
    Otherwise, a 30-minute silver goal extra time period followed by an untimed second golden goal period.

  • @loktah1
    @loktah1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great work!, have you made the outro music yourself? fits well

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers! I can't take credit for it I'm afraid - it's a tune I found on a stock music site. "Cool" by EILOH - app.soundstripe.com/songs/15151

  • @martinmartinec8045
    @martinmartinec8045 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We in Czech will never forget the silver goal in EURO 2004 Vs Greece 😢

  • @andrewmontague9682
    @andrewmontague9682 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A David Icke reference! Bravo. 🤣

  • @pasztorferenc6741
    @pasztorferenc6741 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I remember correctly, in Fifa games Golden Goal was actually Silver Goal, which I always knew, but it's just doesn't make sense to me why they call it that.

  • @MattO109
    @MattO109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did this guy work for the Atlantic or something the video production is very familiar and great.

  • @musaabahmed3431
    @musaabahmed3431 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great reminder that if it isn't broken it doesn't need fixing

  • @lawrenceporter8389
    @lawrenceporter8389 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Statistical evidence doesn’t back the popular notion that golden goal encourages more defensive play in extra time. Teams just play defensively in extra time anyway.
    The 2002 World Cup saw five knockout games go to extra time and three were decided by a golden goal with just two shootouts.
    The first World Cup after golden and silver goal were scrapped 2006 saw six knockout games go to extra time and only two saw any scoring in extra time and four went to penalties despite the need for caution supposedly reduced.

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lawrenceporter8389 while you are right that extra time is always going to be defensive (which is why I am for getting rid of them altogether and going straight to penalties) this is a very small "data set" to say the least.
      In the 2010 and 2014 world cups only half of the extra times still ended up in a tie.

  • @N1ckL0u
    @N1ckL0u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:55 We parked it and we won the Euro. Swallow it, whether you like it or not.

  • @MBrauny12
    @MBrauny12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wonder what would happen if football tried something like NHL hockey where they have a golden goal but also reduced the number of players in play, opening up more space for things to happen

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wouldn't work in football because the pitch is big and players would need to run more to cover all spaces, that after 90 minutes of football. Ice hockey has a much smaller pitch and unlimited substitutions

  • @whophd
    @whophd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why not just remove 1 player off each side, every 5 minutes, after full time? It’s “real football” because there’s no way you won’t get a proper goal by the time you’re down to 2 players. Long before that, in fact.

  • @AhmedSalah-gw4wv
    @AhmedSalah-gw4wv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've got an idea
    Penalty shootout AT the start of extra time
    The winner of the shootout gets an advantage if the match remains tied after extra time.

  • @erentoktams1470
    @erentoktams1470 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stepping on the line while throw-in is a forgotton rule and a bad one at that. Refs seem to remember it in the worst possible times. Whether its your team or the opponent, it always feels real unfair.

    • @JoshHenderson16
      @JoshHenderson16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same with all the banal penalty encroachment BS - so unevenly applied.

  • @jstnrgrs
    @jstnrgrs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The way to fix golden goal would be to get rid of penalties. No time limit, play till someone scores. Just like on the Stanley cup playoffs.

  • @RestoreSanityFear
    @RestoreSanityFear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whether or no penalty shootouts are skill-based, it is a poor way to decide a football match as it does not resemble the game teams play for 120 minutes.

  • @Mydigitalepitaph
    @Mydigitalepitaph 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Bierhoff goal at Euro 96 sucked all the possible excitement out of the game. Finished there and then due to a goalkeepeing howler too.
    Shame the Czechs got robbed by a golden and a silver goal. Shame they'll never get to that level 6:01 again.

  • @Ese96Agboaye
    @Ese96Agboaye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having mentioned penalties, remember ABBA shootouts from the late 2010s?

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do. I think they were kind of a good idea to be honest. The main or only argument against it was that it was a bit harder to understand.

  • @justefe
    @justefe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So the 1st major Golden Goal rule affected the Czechs and then they suffered with the last Silver Goal rule! Ouch!!!

  • @kostasjelo1719
    @kostasjelo1719 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a Greek having experienced the EURO 2004 win i always enjoy trophyless englishmen calling it "park the bus" after their god awful performances that have landed them 2 euro finals. Keep malding english fans.

  • @briancarey9689
    @briancarey9689 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The idea of a penalty shootout deciding elimination games of major tournaments has never sat right with me. The game to see who's better at soccer should be decided by playing soccer.

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@briancarey9689 The game is called football. Penalties are a part of football. This is probably a sport that is new for you (which means you dont understand the culture behind it) and you find it strange because it does not work like basketball, american football and NHL.

  • @CrescentCitySweaters
    @CrescentCitySweaters หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    College soccer in the U.S. still uses golden goal in overtime but only during conference championships and during the national tournament (among many other rule differences from FIFA-sanctioned leagues and tournaments). Normal games can end in draws still. Vermont just won their first ever national championship on a golden goal with the striker rounding the keeper and slotting it in. It was basically straight out of a movie

  • @D_B_Cooper
    @D_B_Cooper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What we have to talk about is how long the goalies hold the ball. That’s what’s killing the game

  • @Bradsilvers13
    @Bradsilvers13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds me of the ABBA penalty’s, they came and went

  • @matheusfiorelli8829
    @matheusfiorelli8829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ill say it, because nobodyelse will:
    extra time in knock-out tournaments that have home and away matches are redundant, if both teams couldnt score in 180 minutes they dont deserve 30 extra minutes, so go straight to Penalties
    thanks for coming to my TED-Talk

  • @Felipera_
    @Felipera_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about instead of penalty kicks we throw players in quick 1v1+GK matches? You have to lose your opponent and score. You start somewhere in the middle of the field and have to make your way to the goal.

  • @DecioKupramim69
    @DecioKupramim69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a new subscribe and i really love the video and the musics, can you say the muiscs that you use? Even in that Anfield video, the first one

    • @RouteNone
      @RouteNone  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! All the music used across the channel are licensed from Soundstripe - the end song for instance is "Cool" by EILOH