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I agree 100% the HDR that everyone seeks is not really all it is cracked up to be...as you have so many parts and pieces to consider...from a hardware level: does the monitor really support HDR? How many dimming zones does the monitor have, is there enough contrast and color (DCI-P3 100%+) to make it worthwhile, do you have an expensive OLED with both fantastic color/contrast to make it work better...once you get past the hardware hurdle then comes all the software level stuff...sure there is windows auto-HDR...but as mentioned it is not necessarily the best implementation. Folks should instead focus on color gamut, color accuracy, contrast ratio, image sharpness, and speed/smoothness (if gaming).
This video was really bad. Sorry to say this so harshly but you basically talked about a whole load of nothing. You started to raise some interesting points but then you didnt develop them at all and a lot of what you said was just outright wrong. This couldve been a really informative video but you just gave your uninformed opinion on the topic without actually giving objective, balanced and researched information.
HDR does more than "makes your brights become brighter and your darks become darker". It expands the color gamut, increasing the shades of color that can be displayed. In turn, this creates a much more 'realistic' presentation. For example, if you take two pictures of a yellow school bus - one picture is HDR and the other is non-HDR. The HDR picture will display a shade of yellow that is much more accurate to real-life. Meanwhile, the non-HDR picture of the school bus will still be yellow, but when compared to the real-life school bus you'll notice the shade of yellow is slightly 'off', because it cannot display the proper shade of yellow without HDR.
Sounds great in practice, but this isn't achieved 19/20. It's extremely rare, and it's not built to work outside of bt.2020 mastered media AND only on genuine OLED/QLED 10-bit panels. Not to mention the other 1000 exclusions that must be present for it to make an objective difference. It's simply not that simple, any number of variations would alters what colors you're are actively seeing.
From my experience HDR on my LG C9 simply dimmed the image too much on most of the HDR video content. When it's properly implemented it can look incredible. But it can be so bad sometimes I prefer the SDR variants simply because the image is more consistent in brightness and I can always tell what's going on without fiddling with settings or making the room pitch black. I know there are ways to fix this to a degree with better tonemapping but a technology that's advertised as superior in every way shouldn't require this much involvement from the end user.
It depends on what you're talking about. In terms of HDR in gaming, "HDR" can do close to nothing in some cases because realtime rendering is already in RGB using the widest color gamut possible, only limited by the capabilities of your display. So pretty much the only benefit in this case is MAYBE brighter highlights, and reduced visual banding in dark scenes, which could be solved in SDR anyway if proper dithering is implemented. It doesn't change the fact that good tone-mapping on SDR content on an OLED display can already look "HDR" to begin with.
I just got a G8 Neo, and at first I had the issues in this video, where I needed to turn off HDR for SDR content. After finding a good set of settings, I just leave it on. Now SDR looks like SDR should, HDR looks like HDR should and even Auto HDR is a good improvement over SDR.
@@ceuser3555 I find I get the best results using RPG mode on the monitor. Apart from that, it's basically about using the Windows 11 HDR calibration tool and finally set the SDR brightness to about 20. I also enable Auto HDR, and find that there is no need to bother with switching between SDR and HDR mode depending on content anymore.
@@haakoflo thanks. I returned my odyssey neo g7 because I hated the color and how the images looked out of the box. My alienware 27 inch 1440p with g sync ultimate looked way better out of the box. The color and images were more vibrant and sharp. I am using windows 10.
@@ceuser3555 Neo G7 owner. Yes the factory settings are really bland looking maybe the colors are more accurate this way but in general you should ramp up contrast to around 85, change picture mode to RPG, set black equalizer to anything between 10-13, saturation to between 60 and 70 and Gamma to Mode 1. Lot of fiddling around but once you find settings that look appealing, the HDR in games and videos is actually pretty good (appart from really small specular highlights Mini-Led can't compete with OLED in this regard)
I just wish Microsoft would fix how Windows looks while in HDR, the black levels are incorrectly raised and midtones are washed out even after using their calibration tool. It would be nice to set it to forget it because some videos on TH-cam are available in HDR but you have no way of knowing without already having HDR enabled and it would be nice to not have to disable HDR every time I'm done playing a specific HDR game.
Oblivion, Crysis and Half life 2 did HDR with directx 9 back in 2007. Tone mapping and eye adaptation was faking HDR really well long before before HDR displays were a thing.
And these are standard features today that have been part of SDR ever since. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with "SDR" because it still keeps getting better, scaling with improved hardware specs in displays. On the other hand, HDR is not quite ready for market and in my opinion is a bit overrated, which kind of reminds me of VRR in the same way. Most people will have a better and more consistent experience with a decent OLED in SDR content that's properly tone-mapped, and with dithering where applicable.
That HDR you mentioned is not the same as display HDR. That old game HDR is a common peasant for every game today supporting display HDR or not. It's a light technique. It has nothing to do of actually output wider range of collor and bright information.
04:48 As a person with an HDR monitor (ASUS PA-32UCX), I never turn the HDR off, except when I need to do an SDR color-accurate grading, and everything looks good. So there's no point in pulling the HDR knop front and back. Turn it on and set it up properly once and forever. Also, there are no more problems with the availability of HDR video content. Even the original Star Wars are now available in HDR. From my experience, very few contemporary releases are not available in HDR nowadays.
Totally agree that HDR on Windows is a complete catastrophe. I actually have a PC with a RTX 3080 connected to a premium Samsung 65" inch QLED TV and HDR just doesn't work as it should, so I don't even bother turning it on in Windows anymore. It's no failing of my TV and I've tweaked every setting imaginable from the gamma to the color tones to game mode settings and nothing really makes HDR pop in Windows 11 like it should. It also leaves all SDR content (which is the bulk of what I watch anyway) all dull and washed out, even maxing out that stupid slider in display settings. Given HDR capable displays have been on the market for 10 years now it's frankly an embarrassment how flawed HDR in Windows in 2024 is right now.
I don't know what kind of problem you are having but I never have to enable and disable HDR to view HDR videos. It happens for me automatically. Game HDR implementations are game dependent. Some people like Windows Auto HDR over the in-built ones. I myself use the in-built one when available and which doesn't have Auto-HDR kicks in automatically,
Allen Wake 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing and HDR on my LG 45”OLED untrawide with perfect blacks looks so insane, it’s the literally biggest graphics upgrade in the last 20 years. I toggle HDR on by switching my monitor to gsync and windows remembers. Make sure you run the windows 11 HDR calibration, windows 10 HDR is broken.
I agree these LG OLED's are incredible but the biggest issue is everything else looks like crap now. As you said biggest upgrade in years. We suffered with LCD's far too long. I have a C3 42"
I love mini led for hdr, the localized lighting is in itself a feature not on other displays as it can get super bright making the whole scene just come alive 95% of the time. Suns, street lights and so on just look amazing and the bit of bloom completely lends itself to what is being lit up 95% of the time anyways. I think it's the best hdr monitor in the pros outweigh the cons when comparing to oleds. Even for sdr I prefer it 95% of the time for the same reason, like say star wars a light saber will just glow like crazy it just looks so amazing. I can totally look over scenes where it doesn't let itself as well as oled like a starfield where the contrast between all the tiny stars and dark space isn't as good but by and large it lends itself well to the majority of scenes at least the way the eye perceives what you watch and focus on because when shows are filmed those light contrast differences are largely what the mini led focuses on, the tiny minute contrast differences are largely unnoticed and not in the foreground.
Ive been running Windows 11 in HDR full time since beta and its worked very very well on a PROPER OLED HDR display, most of these issues with SDR content looking washed out are problems with LCD 400-600 nit HDR displays. HDR tonemapping on my LG display helps keep everything consistent looking but makes the HDR a bit less natural looking in some cases but overall looks great and I almost never need to fiddle with it. Auto HDR looks fantastic on all my SDR games even if its not "TrueHDR". So yes you are overblowing things. But I agree that these criticisms are largely true on Most of LCD HDR displays including annoying having to toggle HDR off and on depending on content - this isn't an issue on my LG C1.
Same here, Windows 11, Nvidia GPU, Samsung TV. It's in HDR permanently, no switching required and no problems with any non-HDR content! Even the "Auto HDR" that Windows applies to older games works with no problems on the games I have.
I have an LG C3 42 with Radeon 6950XT and when I use HDR on the desktop it looks washed out an awful, almost like you mismatched your TV and GPU settings (limited and full range) and all the blacks are dark greys. I only use HDR in games. If I want to watch HDR content I use the TH-cam/Prime/Netflix app on the smart TV as that seems to work better for me. Am I missing something obvious?
@@phantomflame0658 The OS, the cable, the HDMI port and the TV, all 4 have to have HDR support. Is the cable HDMI 2.1? On the TV I had to switch HDR 'On' for the HDMI port I was using, it's 'Off' by default. Though that's probably just a Samsung thing.
The worst part is when HDR monitors dont let you calibrate the brightness, and the games/apps dont let you calibrate brightness either. Just enjoy burning your eyes out i guess
THIS, on HDR mode my monitor stays on 100 brightness, hell nah, I am staying on SDR with 21 brightness. The colours already look much better on the IPS compared to my old TN.
There are only 2 games that work pretty good on my monitor (iiyama 43"): Elden Ring and Returnal. They don't require HDR activated on windows. I just need to enable HDR on monitor and ingame and it looks superb. Most games need windows HDR and it looks greyish even after ingame tuning.
I rarely play games that actually support HDR, so the only time I would ever really use Windows HDR would be for watching video content that supports it. Not even all the video I watch supports it, and most of the games I play genuinely look better in SDR. So I just leave that sh!t off.
On Windows Display settings just pull the “brighten SDR content” slider right and it’ll make everything normal. Then you don’t have to keep switching on and off.
I just upgraded from a LG Ultragear 32 1440p HDR monitor to a Alienware aw3423dwf. On the LCD pannel HDR appeared broken, I hated it and have to agree it appeared to not work. Now fast forward to the Alienware OLED, HDR on OMFG. I have never been so Amazed by what I was seeing on screen until now. LCD pannels just don't get bright enough and blacks are to grey to properly display what HDR has to offer. If you have a beast of a computer and an OLED monitor you will see and get all the benefits HDR has to offer but LCD/IPS pannels are no where near good enough to achieve what HDR can do.
I tried a samsung s95 a few times and certain games like Doom Eternal looked insanely good but then when I put GTA5 on it looked all dark and weird like the contrast was broken.
Consoles don't have good hdr optimisation because you get a black screen every time it turns hdr on or off. Only smart tvs and phones have good optimisation.
I usually keep a System > Display window open on my second monitor to toggle HDR on and off when I'm playing games, recording HDR content, or editing HDR video. I toggle that off and on a lot.
RDR 2 didnt have HDR at launch it was added in later its not like native HDR, but theyve updated it n its much better now then it was when they released it.
Thank you for this video. I wasn't aware hdr was so problematic on windows being is been available since windows 10. This saved me from taking the plunge for now.
so, instead of making the situation even worse to program, to HDR apis, make the programs developers fix their SDR to emulate HDR perfectly, and I dont mean eye adaptation, I mean black and white. min-max.
I know this is a bit older but you can just turn on HDR for windows in WIN11 and then enable "auto HDR" and my PC is always in HDR with no black screen flipping. Non-HDR content is fine too. You can use windows HDR configuration (from windows store) to calibrate it after those settings are enabled and it then applies that filter. Boom all done. Some games in game HDR settings I may adjust but its mostly minimal and my HDR looks great.
I have both systems, a high-end pc, and both the series x and ps5. HDR for console and with TV's hits so good that you can change colour saturation when needed and brightness levels. On my monitor with pc, it's really bad on most games. The colour seems very greyish and dark with it bring bright but also it being hard to see. Good thing with pc. Is it having reshade and able to calibrate everything yourself. And there's no way I'm spending close to 4k aud for a oled monitor alone when you can just calibrate the image yourself using reshade.
Pretty much the only good thing to come out of the train wreck which is HDR standardization... is that there are more monitors & tv's now, which can actually display the entire SDR color gamut. The marketers want to sell "magic tv", yet _every_ image you see on it is made from the same 3 base colors. There's a lot of BS & chicanery in the whole HDR fiasco.
Playing The Last of Us on HDR on Win11 QE55Q9FNA, ran the Win 11 HDR app and it looks beautiful. My monitor is 5 years + old so I can only do 1440P or 4K HDR 10bit 4:2:2 mode at 60Hz Freesync. I will check the Samsung OLEDs & QLED Nano screens...
Yeah, HDR is a mega issue at the moment. I use a Dell S3220DGF monitor and AVeRmedia Live Gamer 4k. Both do HDR, but I can't mirror displays and have HDR on. I can't run HDR on both and use OBS to copy display from monitor to capture, w/o white blowout on the image. HDR is just a no-go at this time.
HDR on my Windows 11 machine with LG 42" OLED C2 is the BEST THING EVER! Takes gaming to next level! MUCH MUCH MUCH more usefull than RayTracing etc. And now with Nvidias new NvTrueHDR you can get HDR on ALL games available .. also old games.. my screen and colors are AMAZING in HDR ... completly different look and much brighter and more "pop in your face!". I also had a "entrty HDR" monitor with 400 nits.. and that was when I though HDR sucked! But after getting a premium HDR (C2) is COMPLETLY different and impossible to revert back to pc without. Just get the right hardware.. LG C1/C2/C3 is in my view the best HDR experience out there. Also run Windows HDR Calibration (from the store) to get the config correct. I think its amazing Windows HDR. The important thing is to disable it in normal desktop mode.
I use a 42 inch C3 as a monitor and I agree WOLED has it's downsides but it still looks damn good provided the game is made for it. And that's the main problem (as you said even huge mainstream games like Fortnite don't support it) The only games I've played that I can say look great in HDR are Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Horizon Zero Dawn, Doom Eternal. Mainly the colours are more lifelike. The purple neons in the opening cave in Horizon look like real neon tubes. I personally don't mind that the bright highlights are slightly washed out as I don't think it ruins the presentation. When you say "washed out" it's really nitpicking I think as it's just that last 5%. This is probably the most affordable way into real HDR "only" $800
Hdr is crap on pc anyway i have had many hdr tvs from expensive to cheep you set it up right works on one game swap to another and it is just crap so i use reshade fake hdr.
I have an LG OLED 27-inch monitor and it says it's not supported in the Windows settings for HDR. I am connected to a 6700 XT with a DisplayPort and have updated windows and GPU drivers. All of the settings have been reset and are as stock as I can get them. No this is not a good experience 😂 didn't expect this much tuning and updating with PC
Why would you want HDR for your games? Also bad Windows HDR was always a thing so you'd want to calibrate your colors for HDR regardless or simply get fake HDR like Reshade
Always found that HDR left much to be desired half the time mostly down to poor implementation. Sometimes on Elden Ring I get a noticably nicer picture, but other times it just looks white and the brightness is on max and not nice. It feels like another nice gimmick that just got chucked in without really being set up right.
MS on Windows did not manage to implement color correction correctly on SDR (so technically out of the box you already are watching stuff in unintended ways, be it a movie game or anything), and now with HDR things are getting worse, you just expand color gamut (auto HDR) and bump contrast, but you are presented with non-color accurate crap in high contrast so why would that be better? .. not to mention video players and a lot of games have sub par support for HDR, or are actually converting HDR -> SDR and displaying that. You can maybe get away with color correction with a lot of hacks and software but success is not guaranteed (you really need to know all the standards and what you are doing exactly and the how). Let's face it HDR is not for average Joe right now, not even close, and on windows might be never.
No longer its not. RTX HDR is amazing. Go check it out. Tried it on a few games such as star wars battlefront 2 and i was blown away. It was like i had a new monitor and playing in 8k or something. its incredible when tweaked. RTX HDR is amazing and better than windows hdr even on games that support hdr nativly
Woled is pixel layout and the fact the abl is super aggressive abl adjustments affect brightness and then there color volume and the hdr curve on some is bad, facts here oled is designed for blacks not big brightness it’s designed to remove blooming and btw qd oled is faking brightness through the qd layer its actually not any brighter then woled
The only thing that's a disaster is games not having support for it. Also, for some reason windows has to have it's own HDR support for games that don't have it natively, instead of every application.
No issues here, I'm using windows 11, lg cx48 12900k/4090 combo and I always keep hdr on, games like cyberpunk looks amazing, most monitors look like crap even my lg ultrawide does, but with an Oled tv , it's day and night
I have an LG C3 65" and a RTX 4070. I hate HDR. Hate it. There are a handful of games which can implement it correctly. I am talking maybe less than 5 out of everything on the planet. One example I think of is the Resident Evil Village. That impressed and it was implemented properly. That game looked better in HDR than SDR. The blacks were completely dark and lights were punchy. I think people who like HDR in general, like brightness above all else. Which is fine, it's personal preference I guess. I tried my best to get into HDR. Gave multiple chances to many different games, tweaking setting, doing this and that. But nope, it just isn't ready yet in 2024.
using a samsung odissey neo 49, combine with 3090, i dunno, im not having your problems, neither to switch with ctrl alt b, it auto switch anytime i go in a game that i turned HDR in the options, and as for "emulated HDR" by windows, i find its just alright, we know they are old game, its cool to have them already looking that good. so far the game i really enjoyed its HDR is "THE FINALS" , i actually tried it with another pc that didnt have HDR and its night and days difference.
HDR also looks worse than SDR on Samsung's new 57" G9 (G95NC, 7680x2160) and trust me, ive tried EVERYTHING to get it to look decent. For whatever reason HDR completely distroys the color. Its so bad that i have given up and just use SDR at this point.
So, I'd like to add something that I hope some of you read. Leaving HDR on in Windows 11, DOES indeed work. I found this out after switching to... Guess what... An LG OLED Gaming monitor. lol. I recently purchased the 48" ultra gear LG OLED Gaming monitor and I couldn't be happier. My previous monitor was a 32" aorus Ultra wide. It reportedly supported HDR400 but it was definitely unable to run HDR effectively and had the washed out image on windows. With my new LG, I never have to turn HDR off anymore and when HDR content pops up, it just runs it instantly (TH-cam, etc). Amazing contrast, and color gamut let alone the 0.1MS response time. Don't sleep on ultra gears. They're great.
Ultragears are complete ass. At least mine is, doesn’t shut off in hdr mode and artifacts when I switch resolution or refresh rate to anything other than native
I have the aw3423dw qd oled and have been debating whether to just leave HDR on the whole time or switch back and forth with win alt b, Yea there is some SDR content that doesnt look great with it on constantly, but im still trying to figure out whether its bad enough or if I just set it and forget it with HDR turned on all the time.
totally agreed windows some times say hdr is not suported some times does when it work looks like shit in games and win desktop same i dont know why sometimes work if is the cable windows
Although I agree that HDR on PC is not always as good as on say a console, I am not having a lot of the issues mentioned here. I have a several year old 77 inch LG OLED. When I launch a game that supports HDR, the screen flickers , the HDR icon on the tv pops up and away I go. I confirm that HDR is actually activated in the game just in case but I do not have to manually turn it on and off in Windows. (Running Windows 11)
"Although I agree that HDR on PC is not always as good as on say a console, " Thats all that needs to be said If someone has a samsung neo G7/G8, DEF worth getting a console to take full advantage of HDR, Those monitors on pc HDR looks washed out and those isnt what you would call push over monitors either.
when i'm watching tv on my 4k hdr equipped tv or streaming on it m, or plying blu rays/4k blu rays yeah the hdr looks freaking amazing... on pc gmaes though going through the game options it just looks like washed out shit , like the image has milk fog over it.
There is an only few ways to get a proper HDR - use Mac and expensive HDR monitor, or... use a Console / TV (the latter is better) in pair with expensive HDR TV. There is simply no cheaper solutions for this, for cheap monitors are cheap for a reason - they're simply not good.
i think he got a bad oled monitor, some of those require you to toggle hdr to look good in sdr and hdr. my corsair woled just works, hdr and autohdr is on, no need to click anything to get youtube hdr to work, and sdr games look as they should. by the way the hotkey to toggle windows hdr do not work if you disable the bloatware like i did, as i assume he did not. part of the problem i think, declutter windows, get your settings right everywhere.
for windows i much prefer having hdr on for the desktop. I have a hdr1000 display with 1000 dimming zones. I find hdr off waaaaay to dark. For games those its a joke, with lots of really basic hdr controls without any information of what its actually doing, like with your halo example.
You have bad monitor if HDR Hursts your eyes… Or bad implementation in the program. HDR is not brighnest boost, it is about adding details in the shadows and bright spots. The problem is most monitors are not good enough to show those details because the monitor can not get bright enough in details or dark enough in shadows.
@@haukionkannel well, to notice any difference on this monitor (Acer EI322QUR) brightness has to be high, or maybe I should tinker with it a bit more. I dial down the brightness a lot on any display, even phones, I can't stand strong and cool(blue) light, always change to warm colours.
@@HELLienadO Definitely. Warm white point is more natural and better to eyes also keep skin tones more natural! I did buy new HDR monitor and did use windows HDR calipration program to tone down overall brightnes a lot! Out of the box experience was terrible! Much better nor after calibration!
Everyone that can afford it should be buying an OLED Ultrawide. Even if the content isn't always there for it, it's a monitor on a completely different level to everything else on the market.
I have the aw3423dwf and the lg 27gr95qe-b. Honestly prefer the woled over the qd oled. The massive gap between bright areas and the rest of the screen just blows out all detail on the qd oled. The woled is much more balanced and satisfying experience in hdr games imo. Tested dead space remake, Horizon zero dawn, plague tail requiem, and a bunch of other games.
7:07 People that say they have the most need for HDR are also playing and viewing in 8 bit colour jus to get 165Hz over 144Hz (or similar, just a few more Hz for 8 bit over 10 bit colour) then moan about needing HDR. Turn the screen to 10 bit first you clowns. They need to get rid of 8 bit panels completely if you ask me, if colour is that unimportant go back to 6 bit(with or without HRC). I'd like 12 bit, that will be enough. Those cost a ton and only have a 12 bit LUT though.
the game which support hdr look like shit, because all the menues switch to grey. That crap is not working properly. And its not only pc's its everything.
I will say the Windows, Alt, B is not true with certain displays I just did it and it works just fine. It reverts without restarting the video. I will agree HDR is kind of trash
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HDR is a Disaster on PC
HDR is a great way to improve the visuals of your game by increasing the dynamic range allowing for brighter highlights and more shadow detail. In fact HDR may be the biggest visual improvement you can make to your display, and at little to no performance cost its much more practical than something like raytracing. With all that said, it may not be for everyone as at least on PC HDR is somewhat of a mess.
I agree 100% the HDR that everyone seeks is not really all it is cracked up to be...as you have so many parts and pieces to consider...from a hardware level: does the monitor really support HDR? How many dimming zones does the monitor have, is there enough contrast and color (DCI-P3 100%+) to make it worthwhile, do you have an expensive OLED with both fantastic color/contrast to make it work better...once you get past the hardware hurdle then comes all the software level stuff...sure there is windows auto-HDR...but as mentioned it is not necessarily the best implementation. Folks should instead focus on color gamut, color accuracy, contrast ratio, image sharpness, and speed/smoothness (if gaming).
This video was really bad. Sorry to say this so harshly but you basically talked about a whole load of nothing.
You started to raise some interesting points but then you didnt develop them at all and a lot of what you said was just outright wrong.
This couldve been a really informative video but you just gave your uninformed opinion on the topic without actually giving objective, balanced and researched information.
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Thank you for the Win+Alt+B shortcut. I've been manually navigating to advanced display settings every time. 😭
How's that hard? Just press windows key then type in "settings". Easy as that.
@clem9808 Hard? No. Tedious navigating through two or three windows vs a simple keybind? Yes.
@@clem9808 Why did they invent cars? walking works just fine
Thank you so much
@@clem9808Why did they invent phones? Carrier pigeons work just fine
Microsoft needs to stop worrying about the damn AI and just get their OS in order.
Don't you see? They're trying to get the AI really good so it'll fix Windows for them
@@mttrashcan-bg1ro lol :D
But then they can’t sell it to the military industrial complex 😐
HDR does more than "makes your brights become brighter and your darks become darker". It expands the color gamut, increasing the shades of color that can be displayed. In turn, this creates a much more 'realistic' presentation. For example, if you take two pictures of a yellow school bus - one picture is HDR and the other is non-HDR. The HDR picture will display a shade of yellow that is much more accurate to real-life. Meanwhile, the non-HDR picture of the school bus will still be yellow, but when compared to the real-life school bus you'll notice the shade of yellow is slightly 'off', because it cannot display the proper shade of yellow without HDR.
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Sounds great in practice, but this isn't achieved 19/20. It's extremely rare, and it's not built to work outside of bt.2020 mastered media AND only on genuine OLED/QLED 10-bit panels. Not to mention the other 1000 exclusions that must be present for it to make an objective difference. It's simply not that simple, any number of variations would alters what colors you're are actively seeing.
From my experience HDR on my LG C9 simply dimmed the image too much on most of the HDR video content. When it's properly implemented it can look incredible. But it can be so bad sometimes I prefer the SDR variants simply because the image is more consistent in brightness and I can always tell what's going on without fiddling with settings or making the room pitch black. I know there are ways to fix this to a degree with better tonemapping but a technology that's advertised as superior in every way shouldn't require this much involvement from the end user.
It depends on what you're talking about. In terms of HDR in gaming, "HDR" can do close to nothing in some cases because realtime rendering is already in RGB using the widest color gamut possible, only limited by the capabilities of your display.
So pretty much the only benefit in this case is MAYBE brighter highlights, and reduced visual banding in dark scenes, which could be solved in SDR anyway if proper dithering is implemented.
It doesn't change the fact that good tone-mapping on SDR content on an OLED display can already look "HDR" to begin with.
And yet the human eye can separate just about one million colors.
I just got a G8 Neo, and at first I had the issues in this video, where I needed to turn off HDR for SDR content. After finding a good set of settings, I just leave it on. Now SDR looks like SDR should, HDR looks like HDR should and even Auto HDR is a good improvement over SDR.
What are the settings? Too bad it is not calibrated with the best settings out of the box.
@@ceuser3555 I find I get the best results using RPG mode on the monitor. Apart from that, it's basically about using the Windows 11 HDR calibration tool and finally set the SDR brightness to about 20.
I also enable Auto HDR, and find that there is no need to bother with switching between SDR and HDR mode depending on content anymore.
@@haakoflo thanks. I returned my odyssey neo g7 because I hated the color and how the images looked out of the box. My alienware 27 inch 1440p with g sync ultimate looked way better out of the box. The color and images were more vibrant and sharp. I am using windows 10.
@@ceuser3555 Neo G7 owner. Yes the factory settings are really bland looking maybe the colors are more accurate this way but in general you should ramp up contrast to around 85, change picture mode to RPG, set black equalizer to anything between 10-13, saturation to between 60 and 70 and Gamma to Mode 1. Lot of fiddling around but once you find settings that look appealing, the HDR in games and videos is actually pretty good (appart from really small specular highlights Mini-Led can't compete with OLED in this regard)
I have a neo g7 looks amazing with hdr but looks washed out with sdr, do you know of a fix?
I just wish Microsoft would fix how Windows looks while in HDR, the black levels are incorrectly raised and midtones are washed out even after using their calibration tool. It would be nice to set it to forget it because some videos on TH-cam are available in HDR but you have no way of knowing without already having HDR enabled and it would be nice to not have to disable HDR every time I'm done playing a specific HDR game.
Windows HDR calibration in Microsoft store
Oblivion, Crysis and Half life 2 did HDR with directx 9 back in 2007. Tone mapping and eye adaptation was faking HDR really well long before before HDR displays were a thing.
Which it explains why Oblivion looked so good. Same with Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind.
@@killertruth186 vanilla morrowind actually looks horrible and doesn't support HDR without mods.
And these are standard features today that have been part of SDR ever since.
Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with "SDR" because it still keeps getting better, scaling with improved hardware specs in displays.
On the other hand, HDR is not quite ready for market and in my opinion is a bit overrated, which kind of reminds me of VRR in the same way.
Most people will have a better and more consistent experience with a decent OLED in SDR content that's properly tone-mapped, and with dithering where applicable.
@@amartinez97 Eh, the same can be said with other games. But most games doesn’t support HDR anyways.
That HDR you mentioned is not the same as display HDR. That old game HDR is a common peasant for every game today supporting display HDR or not. It's a light technique. It has nothing to do of actually output wider range of collor and bright information.
04:48 As a person with an HDR monitor (ASUS PA-32UCX), I never turn the HDR off, except when I need to do an SDR color-accurate grading, and everything looks good. So there's no point in pulling the HDR knop front and back. Turn it on and set it up properly once and forever. Also, there are no more problems with the availability of HDR video content. Even the original Star Wars are now available in HDR. From my experience, very few contemporary releases are not available in HDR nowadays.
HDR looks so washed out and horrible at the win10 GUI 😞
@@De-M-oN there are adjustments you can make to set right contrast the saturation.
Totally agree that HDR on Windows is a complete catastrophe. I actually have a PC with a RTX 3080 connected to a premium Samsung 65" inch QLED TV and HDR just doesn't work as it should, so I don't even bother turning it on in Windows anymore.
It's no failing of my TV and I've tweaked every setting imaginable from the gamma to the color tones to game mode settings and nothing really makes HDR pop in Windows 11 like it should. It also leaves all SDR content (which is the bulk of what I watch anyway) all dull and washed out, even maxing out that stupid slider in display settings.
Given HDR capable displays have been on the market for 10 years now it's frankly an embarrassment how flawed HDR in Windows in 2024 is right now.
After experiencing hdr in general especially in videos and some games, I wish more games do it and windows fixes their implementation.
Most cheap "HDR" displays/TV might as well just be plain 4K.
@@OMGtheykilledKenny42 Yep, there should be a minimum benchmark to be called HDR
HDRTray instead. Just click on the button/icon on the tray to turn on/off HDR. Workaround still, but a better workaround :)
I don't know what kind of problem you are having but I never have to enable and disable HDR to view HDR videos. It happens for me automatically. Game HDR implementations are game dependent. Some people like Windows Auto HDR over the in-built ones. I myself use the in-built one when available and which doesn't have Auto-HDR kicks in automatically,
used hdr10 in 4k for my pc for years with no problems in gaming, on an LG 55" TV @120hz
Wait, I don’t have to hit Win+Alt+B. It switches automatically for me.
Yeah they must have fixed it some time after this video
Allen Wake 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing and HDR on my LG 45”OLED untrawide with perfect blacks looks so insane, it’s the literally biggest graphics upgrade in the last 20 years. I toggle HDR on by switching my monitor to gsync and windows remembers. Make sure you run the windows 11 HDR calibration, windows 10 HDR is broken.
Starfield also looks awesome now
@@arseniuskoenig Starfields HDR looks way better with the LUMA mod, it's literally night and day.
I agree these LG OLED's are incredible but the biggest issue is everything else looks like crap now. As you said biggest upgrade in years. We suffered with LCD's far too long. I have a C3 42"
I love mini led for hdr, the localized lighting is in itself a feature not on other displays as it can get super bright making the whole scene just come alive 95% of the time. Suns, street lights and so on just look amazing and the bit of bloom completely lends itself to what is being lit up 95% of the time anyways. I think it's the best hdr monitor in the pros outweigh the cons when comparing to oleds. Even for sdr I prefer it 95% of the time for the same reason, like say star wars a light saber will just glow like crazy it just looks so amazing. I can totally look over scenes where it doesn't let itself as well as oled like a starfield where the contrast between all the tiny stars and dark space isn't as good but by and large it lends itself well to the majority of scenes at least the way the eye perceives what you watch and focus on because when shows are filmed those light contrast differences are largely what the mini led focuses on, the tiny minute contrast differences are largely unnoticed and not in the foreground.
Ive been running Windows 11 in HDR full time since beta and its worked very very well on a PROPER OLED HDR display, most of these issues with SDR content looking washed out are problems with LCD 400-600 nit HDR displays.
HDR tonemapping on my LG display helps keep everything consistent looking but makes the HDR a bit less natural looking in some cases but overall looks great and I almost never need to fiddle with it. Auto HDR looks fantastic on all my SDR games even if its not "TrueHDR".
So yes you are overblowing things. But I agree that these criticisms are largely true on Most of LCD HDR displays including annoying having to toggle HDR off and on depending on content - this isn't an issue on my LG C1.
Same here, Windows 11, Nvidia GPU, Samsung TV. It's in HDR permanently, no switching required and no problems with any non-HDR content! Even the "Auto HDR" that Windows applies to older games works with no problems on the games I have.
I have an LG C3 42 with Radeon 6950XT and when I use HDR on the desktop it looks washed out an awful, almost like you mismatched your TV and GPU settings (limited and full range) and all the blacks are dark greys. I only use HDR in games. If I want to watch HDR content I use the TH-cam/Prime/Netflix app on the smart TV as that seems to work better for me. Am I missing something obvious?
@@phantomflame0658 The OS, the cable, the HDMI port and the TV, all 4 have to have HDR support. Is the cable HDMI 2.1?
On the TV I had to switch HDR 'On' for the HDMI port I was using, it's 'Off' by default. Though that's probably just a Samsung thing.
The worst part is when HDR monitors dont let you calibrate the brightness, and the games/apps dont let you calibrate brightness either.
Just enjoy burning your eyes out i guess
THIS, on HDR mode my monitor stays on 100 brightness, hell nah, I am staying on SDR with 21 brightness. The colours already look much better on the IPS compared to my old TN.
There are only 2 games that work pretty good on my monitor (iiyama 43"): Elden Ring and Returnal. They don't require HDR activated on windows. I just need to enable HDR on monitor and ingame and it looks superb. Most games need windows HDR and it looks greyish even after ingame tuning.
I rarely play games that actually support HDR, so the only time I would ever really use Windows HDR would be for watching video content that supports it. Not even all the video I watch supports it, and most of the games I play genuinely look better in SDR. So I just leave that sh!t off.
On Windows Display settings just pull the “brighten SDR content” slider right and it’ll make everything normal. Then you don’t have to keep switching on and off.
i have a samsung odyssey g5 hdr, i refuse to use the hdr. it looks WORSE than sdr, even after a ton of calibrating and default settings tested
I just upgraded from a LG Ultragear 32 1440p HDR monitor to a Alienware aw3423dwf. On the LCD pannel HDR appeared broken, I hated it and have to agree it appeared to not work. Now fast forward to the Alienware OLED, HDR on OMFG. I have never been so Amazed by what I was seeing on screen until now. LCD pannels just don't get bright enough and blacks are to grey to properly display what HDR has to offer. If you have a beast of a computer and an OLED monitor you will see and get all the benefits HDR has to offer but LCD/IPS pannels are no where near good enough to achieve what HDR can do.
I tried a samsung s95 a few times and certain games like Doom Eternal looked insanely good but then when I put GTA5 on it looked all dark and weird like the contrast was broken.
Consoles don't have good hdr optimisation because you get a black screen every time it turns hdr on or off. Only smart tvs and phones have good optimisation.
Yeah i'm not switching constantly so i guess im using sdr
Has this gotten any better in the last seven months?
I usually keep a System > Display window open on my second monitor to toggle HDR on and off when I'm playing games, recording HDR content, or editing HDR video. I toggle that off and on a lot.
or use win+alt+b
@@canson1988 That worked for awhile but then there was an update where that stopped working for awhile so I got into the habit of using a window.
RDR 2 didnt have HDR at launch it was added in later its not like native HDR, but theyve updated it n its much better now then it was when they released it.
Thank you for this video. I wasn't aware hdr was so problematic on windows being is been available since windows 10. This saved me from taking the plunge for now.
What's wrong with just leaving HDR on at all times? Then you never have to worry about turning it on or off
so, instead of making the situation even worse to program, to HDR apis, make the programs developers fix their SDR to emulate HDR perfectly, and I dont mean eye adaptation, I mean black and white. min-max.
When I hit win+alt+b it make both of my monitors go into HDR mode even though I only want it on my primary. Windows is so annoying.
I know this is a bit older but you can just turn on HDR for windows in WIN11 and then enable "auto HDR" and my PC is always in HDR with no black screen flipping. Non-HDR content is fine too. You can use windows HDR configuration (from windows store) to calibrate it after those settings are enabled and it then applies that filter. Boom all done. Some games in game HDR settings I may adjust but its mostly minimal and my HDR looks great.
I have both systems, a high-end pc, and both the series x and ps5. HDR for console and with TV's hits so good that you can change colour saturation when needed and brightness levels. On my monitor with pc, it's really bad on most games. The colour seems very greyish and dark with it bring bright but also it being hard to see. Good thing with pc. Is it having reshade and able to calibrate everything yourself.
And there's no way I'm spending close to 4k aud for a oled monitor alone when you can just calibrate the image yourself using reshade.
Pretty much the only good thing to come out of the train wreck which is HDR standardization...
is that there are more monitors & tv's now, which can actually display the entire SDR color gamut.
The marketers want to sell "magic tv", yet _every_ image you see on it is made from the same 3 base colors. There's a lot of BS & chicanery in the whole HDR fiasco.
Playing The Last of Us on HDR on Win11 QE55Q9FNA, ran the Win 11 HDR app and it looks beautiful. My monitor is 5 years + old so I can only do 1440P or 4K HDR 10bit 4:2:2 mode at 60Hz Freesync. I will check the Samsung OLEDs & QLED Nano screens...
why do you have to disable hdr in windows
HDR on PS5 looks good but damn does it look like crap on my PC. I use the same monitor for both.
I have an ultrawide displayHDR 1400 monitor and it looks just fine to me leaving autoHDR on.
Yeah, HDR is a mega issue at the moment.
I use a Dell S3220DGF monitor and AVeRmedia Live Gamer 4k. Both do HDR, but I can't mirror displays and have HDR on. I can't run HDR on both and use OBS to copy display from monitor to capture, w/o white blowout on the image. HDR is just a no-go at this time.
HDR on my Windows 11 machine with LG 42" OLED C2 is the BEST THING EVER! Takes gaming to next level! MUCH MUCH MUCH more usefull than RayTracing etc. And now with Nvidias new NvTrueHDR you can get HDR on ALL games available .. also old games.. my screen and colors are AMAZING in HDR ... completly different look and much brighter and more "pop in your face!".
I also had a "entrty HDR" monitor with 400 nits.. and that was when I though HDR sucked! But after getting a premium HDR (C2) is COMPLETLY different and impossible to revert back to pc without. Just get the right hardware.. LG C1/C2/C3 is in my view the best HDR experience out there. Also run Windows HDR Calibration (from the store) to get the config correct. I think its amazing Windows HDR. The important thing is to disable it in normal desktop mode.
I use a 42 inch C3 as a monitor and I agree WOLED has it's downsides but it still looks damn good provided the game is made for it. And that's the main problem (as you said even huge mainstream games like Fortnite don't support it) The only games I've played that I can say look great in HDR are Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Horizon Zero Dawn, Doom Eternal. Mainly the colours are more lifelike. The purple neons in the opening cave in Horizon look like real neon tubes. I personally don't mind that the bright highlights are slightly washed out as I don't think it ruins the presentation. When you say "washed out" it's really nitpicking I think as it's just that last 5%. This is probably the most affordable way into real HDR "only" $800
Hdr is crap on pc anyway i have had many hdr tvs from expensive to cheep you set it up right works on one game swap to another and it is just crap so i use reshade fake hdr.
I have an LG OLED 27-inch monitor and it says it's not supported in the Windows settings for HDR.
I am connected to a 6700 XT with a DisplayPort and have updated windows and GPU drivers.
All of the settings have been reset and are as stock as I can get them.
No this is not a good experience 😂 didn't expect this much tuning and updating with PC
And to add. Windows HDR seems to look washed out. As to console if you have a good HDR monitor it works
I just leave my windows11 in HDR-on mode.
I only watch video HDR content, in case of video SDR content i have a tool that auto switch.
My biggest complanate is the flickering.
NOOO. I need good HDR news
Why would you want HDR for your games? Also bad Windows HDR was always a thing so you'd want to calibrate your colors for HDR regardless or simply get fake HDR like Reshade
Always found that HDR left much to be desired half the time mostly down to poor implementation. Sometimes on Elden Ring I get a noticably nicer picture, but other times it just looks white and the brightness is on max and not nice. It feels like another nice gimmick that just got chucked in without really being set up right.
RTX HDR - Hold my Teraflops
MS on Windows did not manage to implement color correction correctly on SDR (so technically out of the box you already are watching stuff in unintended ways, be it a movie game or anything), and now with HDR things are getting worse, you just expand color gamut (auto HDR) and bump contrast, but you are presented with non-color accurate crap in high contrast so why would that be better? .. not to mention video players and a lot of games have sub par support for HDR, or are actually converting HDR -> SDR and displaying that. You can maybe get away with color correction with a lot of hacks and software but success is not guaranteed (you really need to know all the standards and what you are doing exactly and the how). Let's face it HDR is not for average Joe right now, not even close, and on windows might be never.
The division 2 in HDR is superb.
No longer its not. RTX HDR is amazing. Go check it out. Tried it on a few games such as star wars battlefront 2 and i was blown away. It was like i had a new monitor and playing in 8k or something. its incredible when tweaked. RTX HDR is amazing and better than windows hdr even on games that support hdr nativly
Woled is pixel layout and the fact the abl is super aggressive abl adjustments affect brightness and then there color volume and the hdr curve on some is bad, facts here oled is designed for blacks not big brightness it’s designed to remove blooming and btw qd oled is faking brightness through the qd layer its actually not any brighter then woled
The only thing that's a disaster is games not having support for it. Also, for some reason windows has to have it's own HDR support for games that don't have it natively, instead of every application.
No issues here, I'm using windows 11, lg cx48 12900k/4090 combo and I always keep hdr on, games like cyberpunk looks amazing, most monitors look like crap even my lg ultrawide does, but with an Oled tv , it's day and night
I gave up on Windows' HDR- I got an LG monitor with "simulated" HDR and it works GREAT for both games and movies.
I have an LG C3 65" and a RTX 4070. I hate HDR. Hate it. There are a handful of games which can implement it correctly. I am talking maybe less than 5 out of everything on the planet. One example I think of is the Resident Evil Village. That impressed and it was implemented properly. That game looked better in HDR than SDR. The blacks were completely dark and lights were punchy.
I think people who like HDR in general, like brightness above all else. Which is fine, it's personal preference I guess. I tried my best to get into HDR. Gave multiple chances to many different games, tweaking setting, doing this and that. But nope, it just isn't ready yet in 2024.
using a samsung odissey neo 49, combine with 3090, i dunno, im not having your problems, neither to switch with ctrl alt b, it auto switch anytime i go in a game that i turned HDR in the options, and as for "emulated HDR" by windows, i find its just alright, we know they are old game, its cool to have them already looking that good.
so far the game i really enjoyed its HDR is "THE FINALS" , i actually tried it with another pc that didnt have HDR and its night and days difference.
some games do work, but games like AC valhalla, HDR completely destroys the image
HDR also looks worse than SDR on Samsung's new 57" G9 (G95NC, 7680x2160) and trust me, ive tried EVERYTHING to get it to look decent. For whatever reason HDR completely distroys the color. Its so bad that i have given up and just use SDR at this point.
Things to try;
1. New hdmi 2.1 cable
2. DP cable
3. Enable hdr then go to color settings and max it out
HDR for movies yes for games no. You can debate me on this but I find HDR ruins the games for me I prefer it off why’ll gaming.
if the monitor can display it right, HDR looks so good SO GOOD
So, I'd like to add something that I hope some of you read. Leaving HDR on in Windows 11, DOES indeed work. I found this out after switching to... Guess what... An LG OLED Gaming monitor. lol. I recently purchased the 48" ultra gear LG OLED Gaming monitor and I couldn't be happier. My previous monitor was a 32" aorus Ultra wide. It reportedly supported HDR400 but it was definitely unable to run HDR effectively and had the washed out image on windows. With my new LG, I never have to turn HDR off anymore and when HDR content pops up, it just runs it instantly (TH-cam, etc). Amazing contrast, and color gamut let alone the 0.1MS response time. Don't sleep on ultra gears. They're great.
Ultragears are complete ass. At least mine is, doesn’t shut off in hdr mode and artifacts when I switch resolution or refresh rate to anything other than native
I have the aw3423dw qd oled and have been debating whether to just leave HDR on the whole time or switch back and forth with win alt b, Yea there is some SDR content that doesnt look great with it on constantly, but im still trying to figure out whether its bad enough or if I just set it and forget it with HDR turned on all the time.
In TV, the TV normally automatically detects if the signal is HDR or not… so impossible in Windows… 😂😢😂😢😂😢
I have an LG C2. I just leave HDR on all the time. I find the picture to look good in all content. It's just not that serious to me.
@@jjlw2378its not that serious to u bc the lg c2 switches between sdr and hdr automatically duh😭
@carlozzz3300 Ohh, I thought all displays did that. Is it just a TV thing or an LG specific thing?
totally agreed windows some times say hdr is not suported some times does when it work looks like shit in games and win desktop same i dont know why sometimes work if is the cable windows
Although I agree that HDR on PC is not always as good as on say a console, I am not having a lot of the issues mentioned here. I have a several year old 77 inch LG OLED. When I launch a game that supports HDR, the screen flickers , the HDR icon on the tv pops up and away I go. I confirm that HDR is actually activated in the game just in case but I do not have to manually turn it on and off in Windows. (Running Windows 11)
"Although I agree that HDR on PC is not always as good as on say a console, "
Thats all that needs to be said
If someone has a samsung neo G7/G8, DEF worth getting a console to take full advantage of HDR, Those monitors on pc HDR looks washed out and those isnt what you would call push over monitors either.
when i'm watching tv on my 4k hdr equipped tv or streaming on it m, or plying blu rays/4k blu rays yeah the hdr looks freaking amazing... on pc gmaes though going through the game options it just looks like washed out shit , like the image has milk fog over it.
i'd be willing to buy oled if we got a good 1440p 165hz display on 27"
There is an only few ways to get a proper HDR - use Mac and expensive HDR monitor, or... use a Console / TV (the latter is better) in pair with expensive HDR TV.
There is simply no cheaper solutions for this, for cheap monitors are cheap for a reason - they're simply not good.
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My HDR looks perfect in every game lmfao and I don't even have a high end monitor. The trick is RTX HDR.
i think he got a bad oled monitor, some of those require you to toggle hdr to look good in sdr and hdr.
my corsair woled just works, hdr and autohdr is on, no need to click anything to get youtube hdr to work, and sdr games look as they should.
by the way the hotkey to toggle windows hdr do not work if you disable the bloatware like i did, as i assume he did not. part of the problem i think, declutter windows, get your settings right everywhere.
TVs have passed monitors for gaming.
for windows i much prefer having hdr on for the desktop. I have a hdr1000 display with 1000 dimming zones. I find hdr off waaaaay to dark. For games those its a joke, with lots of really basic hdr controls without any information of what its actually doing, like with your halo example.
no HDR for me, it's too bright, hurts my eyes.
You have bad monitor if HDR Hursts your eyes…
Or bad implementation in the program. HDR is not brighnest boost, it is about adding details in the shadows and bright spots. The problem is most monitors are not good enough to show those details because the monitor can not get bright enough in details or dark enough in shadows.
@@haukionkannel well, to notice any difference on this monitor (Acer EI322QUR) brightness has to be high, or maybe I should tinker with it a bit more. I dial down the brightness a lot on any display, even phones, I can't stand strong and cool(blue) light, always change to warm colours.
@@HELLienadO
Definitely. Warm white point is more natural and better to eyes also keep skin tones more natural!
I did buy new HDR monitor and did use windows HDR calipration program to tone down overall brightnes a lot! Out of the box experience was terrible! Much better nor after calibration!
I can’t use hdr, I got ips lol
Too late went mini-led, didn't know about the windows thing thnx
Everyone that can afford it should be buying an OLED Ultrawide. Even if the content isn't always there for it, it's a monitor on a completely different level to everything else on the market.
I have the aw3423dwf and the lg 27gr95qe-b. Honestly prefer the woled over the qd oled. The massive gap between bright areas and the rest of the screen just blows out all detail on the qd oled. The woled is much more balanced and satisfying experience in hdr games imo. Tested dead space remake, Horizon zero dawn, plague tail requiem, and a bunch of other games.
7:07 People that say they have the most need for HDR are also playing and viewing in 8 bit colour jus to get 165Hz over 144Hz (or similar, just a few more Hz for 8 bit over 10 bit colour) then moan about needing HDR. Turn the screen to 10 bit first you clowns.
They need to get rid of 8 bit panels completely if you ask me, if colour is that unimportant go back to 6 bit(with or without HRC). I'd like 12 bit, that will be enough. Those cost a ton and only have a 12 bit LUT though.
resident evil 2&3 remake let's you enable HDR in game even if you have it disabled in windows and it works fine
Odd. Starfield in HDR Looks great on my monitor (Cooler Master GP27U - FALD/Mini LED/HDR1000)
Got that monitor and it looks pretty amazing imo too 🤩✊🥰💪👍
That's why I got HDR10+ capable OLED TV, but on PC I just use 1440p ultrawide SDR monitor.
thank you for your help. I needed this.
HDR on New World is game changing.
Microsoft Flghtsimulator 2020 it works for me no complains for me
No issues so far
HDR is a gimmich just like 3D TV / monitors / phones was, every one wanted one, until they don't.
the game which support hdr look like shit, because all the menues switch to grey. That crap is not working properly. And its not only pc's its everything.
It's also a disaster on TH-cam.
I will say the Windows, Alt, B is not true with certain displays I just did it and it works just fine. It reverts without restarting the video. I will agree HDR is kind of trash
"not a lot of content supports hdr" nvidia rtx hdr enters chat. it adds hdr to movies, videos and games
Windows is designed to be a container for hdr its up to the content creators to take full usages and it doesn’t happen
Still don’t understand why Microsoft Windows team can’t fix this after so many years
Windows 12 is coming out next year. It will have more integrated AI, but hopefully they will do something about HDR as well.
Only ubisoft games I wouldn't use HDR on.
HDR don't matter when every game uses excessive fog 🤦♂
yep