yes every SSL sounds slightly different - especially after 20 years of usage , lol! Hav you been using the bucket setup? Wish they had that for the PA Lindell 50 API.
In other DAWs (e. g. Reaper - and Harrison Mixbus I believe as well) CLA MixHub does automatically recognize channel names so this is rather a Studio One deficiency and not Wave's fault. The same applies to other VSTs (Neutron etc.).
I would gain stage by reducing the region gains for all Audio in the DAW first. Make sense as the common practice today is that developers emulate the Line/Mic input for console plugins. By doing what you did the color from the plugin would not allow for the saturation and whatnot. SSL sounds better when driven harder, as all console plugins does.
Awesome tutorial, Thank you very much sir !! in case I would like to use a third party plugin how would you recommend going about it? or is there a workaround?
Thanks for the video. Have you had an opportunity to test this plugin via a Waves StudioRack plugin, which processing is off-loaded onto a SoundGrid Extreme Server-C? I am curious to hear how efficiently the track/group/buss count in your video runs in the SoundGrid server.
Hi, about the naming of tracks, I have my plugin on the last insert in every channel and the first insert on output buss and whatever I've named the channel in my DAW it shows up in the plugin and so I suppose it all depends on how you have set it up, also using the the lite version saves a hell of a lot of CPU power. Great video though it's really informative.
Almost a bit ironic that SSL perfected this original idea. The 360 software takes care of each of your 3 issues, it's auto-names the tracks, features solo buttons, and uses minimal CPU in relation. Once they came out with v2 of Native I haven't used the MixHub again. Great times we've experienced over the decades, advancements come fairly quick. Regards.
Interesting plugin, and great review, thanks Dave. Regarding Mac Pro trash cans, multi-cores and CPU usage: I was under the impression that DAWs, like Studio One were not designed to be able to take advantage of multi-core threading as of yet. Has this changed in the newer versions?
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Upon further investigation, from the Presonus support site: As of approx. May 2018; "The multiprocessing and CPU cores parameters in Preferences/Audio Setup have been removed because Studio One now manages all multi-core and multi-processing related functions as part of Dropout Protection"
I just downloaded the Demo ... and it's acting strange ... the VUs are not showing the tracks they're actually on ... do I have a corrupted install or do the VUs show Everything that's poring into every placement of the plugin?
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy hum.. that's what I'm into now, I use a neve NLS to spread "different" channels across the tracks, then tape, ..freeze, and only then I start mixing with another NLS SSL across everything then SSL channel strip to start mixing. I think this last 2 steps can be save by one Brainworx SSL - as it looks like it can do different harmonic content channels inside each instance of the plug-in. SSL EV2 sounds great but doesn't do this and its a brutal CPU hog.. so I'm checking ways to simplify the workflow. Your video for the analog workflow inside DAW was very inspiring to my approach and I mixed 3 blues singles and I really liked the results -2 already released, and one to come out this November. Thanks for your content and reply!
Hey Dave, great video. I’m really considering this plugin but I do have a couple of questions that are very important to me. 1, if I have a UAD plugin in a channel insert in protools such as a reverb, will the CLA mixhub pick it up? Also, can individual parameters within every channel be automated?
no you cant put anything other than another Waves plugin in the insert. Dont know about the automation question. you should go demo it and that that out.
Home Recording Made Easy I meant on the protools insert itself, not the CLA Mixhub SSL channel insert. Hope I’m making sense, but yes, I will demo it also. Thank you for the reply!
One of the things I don't like about it, is that you cannot adjust the size of the mixhub window, so it makes it difficult to open up more than one plug in window to get as many buckets on the screen as possible. The other thing is cpu power. But...I agree since it was pretty cheap, its worth it, but might not be my favorable way of doing things.
Just a quick Non related question. Is that a humidifier in the background? I ask only because I saw the same thing in another studio once; when I asked the studio manager he basically didn't want to answer or just flat out ignored the question.
Good video thank you, I was able to run a test using Pro tools, I was able to put the plug-in on 40 tracks and had no issues whatsoever, but that was without my mix template without any other plugins. I'm sure the CPU burn will be a little higher.
This plugin names the tracks in Pro tools. Heard it may be a bug in other software. I dont worry about the solo button for now because I abuse the solo button anyway. Its a small learning curve to get use to. Soon you will start switching between buckets fast. I bought it. Kinda eliminated about 5 other plugs I didnt need.
I pretty much liked your video because I`m just trying to learn more about mixing and mastering and several youtube videos explaining the process with SSLs are very helpful for me. Regarding the track naming I checked this in Cubase 10 on a Windows 10 PC with VST version. On this system the tracknames given in the daw automatically appear in the inserted plugin instances. So no extra effort in setting up CLA Mixhub for naming the tracks in the plugin. I agree that having mute and solo buttons in the plugin would be even more convenient. But this doesn´t seem to be a disadvantage of this channel strip plugin. It`s the same with Waves Scheps Omni Channel and UADs SSL Channelstrip. Maybe it`s a missing property in the intarface between DAW and plugin and could be a cool feature of future versions.
Did you have all the FX in the on mode? I haven't commented on many videos but bro you have taught me a lot I got to talk to CLA about it at NAMM and he broke down some things off camera. I like its design but its CPU hungry as hell. I say mixbus only plug in and its dope
I’ve got the juice to handle this Ryzen 9 5950X 2tb SSD 32G RAM but having to have 30 or 40 of aNy plugin is not acceptable. Also, I haven’t read any rave reviews.
That cool. then you are not a channel strip person which is totally fine. However, if you want to emulate an analog workflow you should use a channel strip on all your tracks.
Mute/solo? Just buy a surface controller like an X-touch... And CPU? Use the light-version. It's no sound difference with the original but so much less CPU-heavy!
Yea I have been having the same problem. its the only plugin on all of my tracks and it seems to eat up cpu like crazy...I've been trying to give this a try and learn it a little better and become proficient, but seems like starting over because of already knowing my DAW.
Wow, eight channels at a time....but still only one hand and one mouse. It's a total cpu hog and isn't worth the time or the money. Not a horrible concept but just not practical for the average home studio.
yes every SSL sounds slightly different - especially after 20 years of usage , lol! Hav you been using the bucket setup? Wish they had that for the PA Lindell 50 API.
Not a fan of the bucket system. Just my personal workflow
DAVE I CANT BELIEVE YOU GOT THE ORGIN, CONGRATS MY G, YOU ARE TOO LUCKY AND TALENTED, BLESS UP RASTA
Thank you
In other DAWs (e. g. Reaper - and Harrison Mixbus I believe as well) CLA MixHub does automatically recognize channel names so this is rather a Studio One deficiency and not Wave's fault. The same applies to other VSTs (Neutron etc.).
Thanks for watching
www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com
I would gain stage by reducing the region gains for all Audio in the DAW first. Make sense as the common practice today is that developers emulate the Line/Mic input for console plugins. By doing what you did the color from the plugin would not allow for the saturation and whatnot. SSL sounds better when driven harder, as all console plugins does.
Great point. Thanks for watching.
Awesome tutorial, Thank you very much sir !! in case I would like to use a third party plugin how would you recommend going about it? or is there a workaround?
I dont understand the question
Thanks for the video. Have you had an opportunity to test this plugin via a Waves StudioRack plugin, which processing is off-loaded onto a SoundGrid Extreme Server-C? I am curious to hear how efficiently the track/group/buss count in your video runs in the SoundGrid server.
Not yet!
in pro tools it recognizes the track names and adds them automatically
People are saying that. This may be a studio One issue? I'll have to look into that.
My thoughts are it's great for the overall first run or two of mix then after you could fine tune and automate with the DAW faders and sends, etc.
Thanks for watching
www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com
With Protools it automatic names it for you. Maybe its a updated version not sure or if its just protools.
Think in my be a Studio One issue.
Hi, about the naming of tracks, I have my plugin on the last insert in every channel and the first insert on output buss and whatever I've named the channel in my DAW it shows up in the plugin and so I suppose it all depends on how you have set it up, also using the the lite version saves a hell of a lot of CPU power. Great video though it's really informative.
Thanks david for the tip!
hi Dave, great review as usually. Been looking for your version of this plugin. Whats with your new evolution t-shirt instead of your HRME shirts?
I only have a handful of HRME shirts to wear, must have been in laundry that day :)
Almost a bit ironic that SSL perfected this original idea. The 360 software takes care of each of your 3 issues, it's auto-names the tracks, features solo buttons, and uses minimal CPU in relation. Once they came out with v2 of Native I haven't used the MixHub again. Great times we've experienced over the decades, advancements come fairly quick. Regards.
yep, this video is way before the 360 software and UC1 came out
Interesting plugin, and great review, thanks Dave. Regarding Mac Pro trash cans, multi-cores and CPU usage: I was under the impression that DAWs, like Studio One were not designed to be able to take advantage of multi-core threading as of yet. Has this changed in the newer versions?
That's a great question. I was under the impression that the 64bit version did that
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Upon further investigation, from the Presonus support site: As of approx. May 2018; "The multiprocessing and CPU cores parameters in Preferences/Audio Setup have been removed because Studio One now manages all multi-core and multi-processing related functions as part of Dropout Protection"
Great info my friend! Then that really helps you take advantage of all the cores in your machine. Great research!
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy So it seems. Time for an eight-core :-)
I just downloaded the Demo ... and it's acting strange ... the VUs are not showing the tracks they're actually on ... do I have a corrupted install or do the VUs show Everything that's poring into every placement of the plugin?
You should contact Waves support
does each channel have a different channel harmonic distortion..or is it going to add up the same?
The same
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy hum.. that's what I'm into now, I use a neve NLS to spread "different" channels across the tracks, then tape, ..freeze, and only then I start mixing with another NLS SSL across everything then SSL channel strip to start mixing. I think this last 2 steps can be save by one Brainworx SSL - as it looks like it can do different harmonic content channels inside each instance of the plug-in. SSL EV2 sounds great but doesn't do this and its a brutal CPU hog.. so I'm checking ways to simplify the workflow.
Your video for the analog workflow inside DAW was very inspiring to my approach and I mixed 3 blues singles and I really liked the results -2 already released, and one to come out this November.
Thanks for your content and reply!
Hey Dave, great video. I’m really considering this plugin but I do have a couple of questions that are very important to me. 1, if I have a UAD plugin in a channel insert in protools such as a reverb, will the CLA mixhub pick it up? Also, can individual parameters within every channel be automated?
no you cant put anything other than another Waves plugin in the insert. Dont know about the automation question. you should go demo it and that that out.
Home Recording Made Easy I meant on the protools insert itself, not the CLA Mixhub SSL channel insert. Hope I’m making sense, but yes, I will demo it also. Thank you for the reply!
One of the things I don't like about it, is that you cannot adjust the size of the mixhub window, so it makes it difficult to open up more than one plug in window to get as many buckets on the screen as possible. The other thing is cpu power. But...I agree since it was pretty cheap, its worth it, but might not be my favorable way of doing things.
Thanks for watching and for your input!
very informative. thank you brother.
Glad it was helpful!
Just a quick Non related question. Is that a humidifier in the background? I ask only because I saw the same thing in another studio once; when I asked the studio manager he basically didn't want to answer or just flat out ignored the question.
Yes it is. I try to keep the relative humidly in the studio around 43%
I cant seem to add a extra waves plug-in as seen on 9:35 i am using protools 11.3.1. Anyone else having problems with that?
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my brother what a great review
Thanks you!
Good video thank you, I was able to run a test using Pro tools, I was able to put the plug-in on 40 tracks and had no issues whatsoever, but that was without my mix template without any other plugins. I'm sure the CPU burn will be a little higher.
Forgot to mention I was doing everything at 48k, that makes a difference.
Thanks for the info from the land of ProTools!
Why do all Waves plugins produce a lot of low frequency material on the EQ spectrum vizualizer?
probably their analog circuit maybe??
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy not bad programming?
This plugin names the tracks in Pro tools. Heard it may be a bug in other software. I dont worry about the solo button for now because I abuse the solo button anyway. Its a small learning curve to get use to. Soon you will start switching between buckets fast. I bought it. Kinda eliminated about 5 other plugs I didnt need.
Thanks for watching
www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com
I pretty much liked your video because I`m just trying to learn more about mixing and mastering and several youtube videos explaining the process with SSLs are very helpful for me.
Regarding the track naming I checked this in Cubase 10 on a Windows 10 PC with VST version. On this system the tracknames given in the daw automatically appear in the inserted plugin instances. So no extra effort in setting up CLA Mixhub for naming the tracks in the plugin.
I agree that having mute and solo buttons in the plugin would be even more convenient. But this doesn´t seem to be a disadvantage of this channel strip plugin. It`s the same with Waves Scheps Omni Channel and UADs SSL Channelstrip. Maybe it`s a missing property in the intarface between DAW and plugin and could be a cool feature of future versions.
Thanks for your input and for watching!
www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com
www.mixingmadeeasy.net
What does the SOLO button in the middle of the EQ section do?
Thank you for watching! If you are a Studio One user check this out!
www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com/presonus-studio-one-training
Did you have all the FX in the on mode? I haven't commented on many videos but bro you have taught me a lot I got to talk to CLA about it at NAMM and he broke down some things off camera. I like its design but its CPU hungry as hell. I say mixbus only plug in and its dope
Thanks for watching
www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com
Thanks for info !! We appreciate it
Thank you for watching
Thank you David. I'm sure I don't need this.... I looks good and I'm sure it's worthy, but hundred of plugins in my box makes it obsolet.
great point!
Dang. Was hoping you would compare to UAD as usual lol. Great video nonetheless.
I have 3 other video comparing the SSL plugins, including U/A
The naming of the track only names on Mac . Not the same for windows
Great, Thanks!
Great tutorial! Thank you.
Thank you for watching.
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Are waves plugins industry level?
Yes, of course
I’ve got the juice to handle this
Ryzen 9 5950X
2tb SSD
32G RAM
but having to have 30 or 40 of aNy plugin is not acceptable.
Also, I haven’t read any rave reviews.
That cool. then you are not a channel strip person which is totally fine. However, if you want to emulate an analog workflow you should use a channel strip on all your tracks.
good review ..
Glad you enjoyed it
Mute/solo? Just buy a surface controller like an X-touch... And CPU? Use the light-version. It's no sound difference with the original but so much less CPU-heavy!
Thanks for the tip
Badly written vst, activate the eqs and watch the cpu load than you know what I mean. I regret this buy.
Yea I have been having the same problem. its the only plugin on all of my tracks and it seems to eat up cpu like crazy...I've been trying to give this a try and learn it a little better and become proficient, but seems like starting over because of already knowing my DAW.
Thanks for watching
www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com
Wow, eight channels at a time....but still only one hand and one mouse. It's a total cpu hog and isn't worth the time or the money. Not a horrible concept but just not practical for the average home studio.
I appreciate you watching and the feedback.
Horrible plugin!
Leo explain please
Thanks for watching!