Finally!,... someone who takes the time to properly explain in great detail on how to perform a task by setting the bar high and meeting or exceeding his own expectations of himself in order to gain integrity with his viewers. Well done Speedy and continue to push others to reach for high standards in what they post. Also, that Mustang had no idea what it was up against but I'm sure the driver will remember your car and not test you in the future to avoid further embarrassment.
Sir, This Video is an incredible oration and narrative of how this conversion should be accomplished. Thank you for NOT saying words such as ""like" , "ummmm", "ahhhh" and "ohhhhh" . Really impressive and your professionalism is beyond reproach. Thank you for your VIDEO and your time. Grace and Blessings to you and your family Sir.
agreed. There are right and left sides.Speedy put them on backwards.I noticed they are marked with a sharpie . Someone marked them wrong.Other than that great job Speedy.
Fantastic video. Great step by step, great info, excellent attention to the details and great real world demonstration. Thanks for making these videos, please keep them coming!
This was exactly the info I was looking for! Thanks for putting together such an informative video. Well done! Oh yeah...and good on ya for shutting down the 'stang LOL.
I clicked on the link for the kit at Amazon and WOW!!!! $2500.00 for just the front? So, 5k for all four? That is a lot of cash for just brakes. If I had that lying around to spend on Charger R/T, I'd spend it on upgrading the motor to get more ponies going.
@@SpeedysGarage Oh, I can agree, but when you consider paying approximately $600+ per month (not counting insurance) for these Charger/Challenger R/T, SRT's, and Hellcats (I won't even go into the whole Demon thing), there is little money left over to pay for stuff like that, unless of course you are a Doctor, Lawyer, or some big bread earner (or work two jobs for 80 hours per week). For us lesser mortals getting by on less than $50,000 a year or less, $2500 for brakes had better cover all 4 wheels and carry a lifetime warranty and lifetime pad replacement!
Great information and video, thanks for posting! If you get a chance, could you do a follow up video on the braking performance after running it for a couple of months? In our Texas heat and crazy stop/start traffic, I am interest in how the rotors are going to hold up. Anyways, thanks again for filming and posting, keep the videos coming!
TheTexasCoder Sure thing. All the testing on the Baer system was done in nearly 100° heat and 50-60% humidity. Even the pad bedding procedure which was 8 panic stops in a row and the brakes barely broke a sweat.
Unless you're supercharged, the Mustang would win. But anyway, I have a SRT8 2009 Challenger, and man, the Brembo brakes work awesome. I'm sure these new brakes are nuts....
Good vid. Only thing I’ll say is that for maximum performance, drilled rotors don’t work well for these heavy vehicles under repeated heavy braking, and while they look cool, don’t serve a real purpose besides looks. What you really want is slotted or an OEM style rotor for maximum grip surface area, and preferably slotted for high performance driving or track days. Engineering Explained has two very good videos on this, plus talking to any high performance drivers will also yield this same advice. You won’t find these types of rotors on any real track car.
Don't disagree, however if you're using a car like this on a road course I'd say you might have chosen the wrong weapon for the job :) At the drag strip these made a HUGE difference at the end of the 1/4 and were a fantastic upgrade. Looked good at car shows to boot as you pointed out.
Do you remember what size the stock RT rotors were. I'm asking in the event I want to run slicks on a 15 inch rim. A friend did this with his ZO 6 and made a big difference at the drag strip. I look forward to your videos. They are very informative. Thanks Sid
Good detail on install, did you have to do any shimming on the Calipers once they were mounted? I have a '65 Impala with a H.O. 454 running on 20 inch wheels, after watching your break-in process I feel confident in buying the 14" front and 13" rear kit. Thanks for awesome video install 😎👍👍
Have the same kit on my 11 Charger RT. They are great, low dust. Only problem I'm having was that after 2 years the Front rotors got some real bad hard spots, where the whole front end was shaking. I decided to change them followed the instructions just like the first time bedding the brakes hardening the rotors. A year later I have hard spots again only half as bad as the first time though. It's annoying, especially its my daily driver. Any similar problems on your end?
i have heard breakins do more harm them good your better off this driving it around town for while to break them in then do there process i learned the hard way just with regular systems and performance rotors and pads
Drilled rotors tear up pad lining and if it overheated it causes patches on the rotors which give a car or truck the shakes when the brakes are applies. Grooved rotors with stock type pads are best on the street. Competition pads are better suited for the track.
What whould be the point of switching factory calipers brakes and rotors to slotted. Dont they do the same job..? I mean I get the slotted rotors can stay cooler but is thir any proof this is a huge performance upgrade. I mean brembo front brakes set up is like 4 grand. So is this even worth it.
@@SpeedysGarage other than that I guess you just wanted to show us how to do the brake job and thanks for that good video but man stock stx just ant worth it should have just got a 392......
watched all your videos and still can't get enough of them. curious about the new garage, that looks awesome by the way. Did you have it built separate from the house.
Yep, shop is a separate structure. I've had a lot of emails and questions about it so I plan to do a video series on the planning/design and execution that should help folks considering similar projects. Little things I learned a long the way have made a huge difference in day to day use.
Speedy's Garage thanks for getting back to me. I have watched all your videos and love the detail you give in the projects. Hopefully you do some mods to the cat. love to see how much more hp you can squeeze out of that beast.
Super informative. I know this is an old video, but would you say there is a significant weight difference between the stock rotors/brakes and these Baers?
@@SpeedysGarage The fit I get, as I know the Brembo's require replacement of the front spindles on the R/T with those from an SRT. Now that you have the Hellcat, which has the Brembo's, which do you like better?
With straight vaned rotors do you determine the left and right as if you were sitting in the drivers seat or if you were standing outside the vehicle and facing it from the front? My new straight vaned drilled and slotted rotors are labeled left and right but I need an answer to my previous question for proper installation placement. Thanks
In Europe we don't know BEAR brakes!!! Saw this the first time in TV shows like "rides" or "overhaulin'". In quality, with what System do they can messed/compared with? Like BREMBO, STOP TECH, AP Racing, Alcon....? Or with Ksport, D2, XYZ etc....? When I see (for example) "overhaulin'" with Chip Foose, than they always put that BEARs in the cars..... why? Do Foose have a special membership with that BEAR? Sorry my bad English but I'm learning, thank you Greets from Switzerland
Hey man I work for Baer and to answer your question Foose tried most of the big brake companies out there and found out that for the money Baer is by far the best. Those are his words not mine. If you ever have questions about us please contact us and we'll answer any questions you might have.
Sorry I didn't see this earlier but I'm confused by the comment. What exactly is happening and what system are you using? If you contact us we'll do anything and everything to help make it right.
Close to the same if I'm honest. You saw how short they'd stop Orange Krush if I stayed off the ABS. There's another video on the channel where I change out the Hellcat brake pads to something less dusty, I do some 60-0 stops in that to compare.
I'm looking at upgrading my stock rotors on my RT. I'm not building a race car, just looking to keep it performing stock, minus the subpar brake rotors. What would you recommend for a rotor that fits with the stock caliper brackets, etc.?
+Michael Schlimmer See if you can find a set of slotted rotors of stock spec and you'll have what you're looking for. I also recently put a set of EBC Red Stuff brakes on a car and so far so good with those as well.
Let me start off by saying you have an amazing challenger.I'm 16 and got a 6 speed 2013 challenger rt for a 16th birthday present and I'm a bit of a gear head and am wonder what upgrade should be made first.I already have a skip shift eliminator on it and and looking for good performance upgrades on a part time budget. Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.
+airsoft21887 Congrats on getting a very nice ride as a 16th birthday present. Honestly, if I were you I'd put a nice mellow cat back system on the car for a good note and just drive it. Save your money for now as these cars have a lot of performance right off the show room floor. Most bolt ons won't do a whole lot and superchargers are likely outside of a part time budget.
I've driven both and the Baers are a bit better than the SRT brakes. Hard to quantify based on my opinion of how they "feel" but the Baers really grab and seem to not get heat fatigue.
Speedy's Garage Thanks for the reply. Just makes me miss the Challenger I had that much more, nice to see people posting videos on these cars. (too many Stang and Camaro videos! XD )
Very interesting video. i have a 2014 Dodge Challenger SXT Plus, 100th year anniversary edition. what information do i need to order the Baer Brake Upgrade at SpeedysGarage.com? I will have them installed at the dealership where i bought the car. Thanks.
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Finally!,... someone who takes the time to properly explain in great detail on how to perform a task by setting the bar high and meeting or exceeding his own expectations of himself in order to gain integrity with his viewers. Well done Speedy and continue to push others to reach for high standards in what they post. Also, that Mustang had no idea what it was up against but I'm sure the driver will remember your car and not test you in the future to avoid further embarrassment.
Yeah this guy did it right, definitely looking to get these for my 07 SRT8.
Just got the front Baers installed in my 2010 RT, and made it through the rotor seasoning process. I love them.
Sir,
This Video is an incredible oration and narrative of how this conversion should be accomplished. Thank you for NOT saying words such as ""like" , "ummmm", "ahhhh" and "ohhhhh" . Really impressive and your professionalism is beyond reproach.
Thank you for your VIDEO and your time.
Grace and Blessings to you and your family Sir.
This man sold me on this kit now
The noise at the start is awesome, plus shuttin down a Mustang is always good. Love the videos
Bye Bye Mustang 😂😂😂 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 Great Video Bro
Wow what a great video! You my friend are a natural at making TH-cam videos. Please keep up the good work!
Thank you for doing the brake stop test... so hard to find this information anywhere.
04:35 Knipex P/N 8603180 are also really good for this if you don't have a line wrench
Hell send me those old brakes I'll take em 😆
Great video,i have the same brake upgrade on my 2010 Holden Commodore, they make a huge difference to my stopping ability.Money well spent.
did you do the install yourself? i want to do these on my holden monaro (Pontiac GTO). did you do the weight compare like he did?
Awsome job very informative, ill be doing this upgrade soon on my R/T!
Thanks Speedy!
Great ideal with the air line to bleed the brakes 👍🏼👍🏼
Stainless braided brake lines are also a must
full breakdown of process of installation, thanks
He has the rotors on backwards he has the left side on the right and the right side on the left they are directional.
They're not backward, they came labeled from Baer. Pretty hard to mess that up ;)
agreed. There are right and left sides.Speedy put them on backwards.I noticed they are marked with a sharpie . Someone marked them wrong.Other than that great job Speedy.
Fantastic video. Great step by step, great info, excellent attention to the details and great real world demonstration. Thanks for making these videos, please keep them coming!
This was exactly the info I was looking for! Thanks for putting together such an informative video. Well done! Oh yeah...and good on ya for shutting down the 'stang LOL.
I clicked on the link for the kit at Amazon and WOW!!!! $2500.00 for just the front? So, 5k for all four? That is a lot of cash for just brakes. If I had that lying around to spend on Charger R/T, I'd spend it on upgrading the motor to get more ponies going.
Pricey, but the brakes were the next biggest change to the car besides the supercharged engine.
@@SpeedysGarage Oh, I can agree, but when you consider paying approximately $600+ per month (not counting insurance) for these Charger/Challenger R/T, SRT's, and Hellcats (I won't even go into the whole Demon thing), there is little money left over to pay for stuff like that, unless of course you are a Doctor, Lawyer, or some big bread earner (or work two jobs for 80 hours per week). For us lesser mortals getting by on less than $50,000 a year or less, $2500 for brakes had better cover all 4 wheels and carry a lifetime warranty and lifetime pad replacement!
Love that intro I dust mustangs too lol 👍🏾
Great information and video, thanks for posting! If you get a chance, could you do a follow up video on the braking performance after running it for a couple of months? In our Texas heat and crazy stop/start traffic, I am interest in how the rotors are going to hold up. Anyways, thanks again for filming and posting, keep the videos coming!
TheTexasCoder Sure thing. All the testing on the Baer system was done in nearly 100° heat and 50-60% humidity. Even the pad bedding procedure which was 8 panic stops in a row and the brakes barely broke a sweat.
Way to start off your video just awesome!
Hey bud. How much was the kit front and back
A1 Excellent video! Thanks for your time and expertise!
Love what you've done to the car and I enjoy your vids. I hope to get mine somewhere in the same ball park.
The calipers are intended to look the same on the rear as the front, but they do use smaller pistons.
I don't remember the pistons looking g any different on mine....
Unless you're supercharged, the Mustang would win. But anyway, I have a SRT8 2009 Challenger, and man, the Brembo brakes work awesome. I'm sure these new brakes are nuts....
Yep, supercharged plus a bunch of other stuff LOL. Brakes are killer.
I really want this kit but its REALLY expensive
Good vid. Only thing I’ll say is that for maximum performance, drilled rotors don’t work well for these heavy vehicles under repeated heavy braking, and while they look cool, don’t serve a real purpose besides looks. What you really want is slotted or an OEM style rotor for maximum grip surface area, and preferably slotted for high performance driving or track days.
Engineering Explained has two very good videos on this, plus talking to any high performance drivers will also yield this same advice. You won’t find these types of rotors on any real track car.
Don't disagree, however if you're using a car like this on a road course I'd say you might have chosen the wrong weapon for the job :) At the drag strip these made a HUGE difference at the end of the 1/4 and were a fantastic upgrade. Looked good at car shows to boot as you pointed out.
Do you remember what size the stock RT rotors were. I'm asking in the event I want to run slicks on a 15 inch rim. A friend did this with his ZO 6 and made a big difference at the drag strip.
I look forward to your videos. They are very informative.
Thanks Sid
They were 13" if memory serves.
Lol that intro
Good detail on install, did you have to do any shimming on the Calipers once they were mounted? I have a '65 Impala with a H.O. 454 running on 20 inch wheels, after watching your break-in process I feel confident in buying the 14" front and 13" rear kit. Thanks for awesome video install 😎👍👍
Thanks! No shimming was required. The caliper mounts were billet pieces machined to an exact fit. A VERY nice brake setup for sure.
Have the same kit on my 11 Charger RT. They are great, low dust. Only problem I'm having was that after 2 years the Front rotors got some real bad hard spots, where the whole front end was shaking. I decided to change them followed the instructions just like the first time bedding the brakes hardening the rotors. A year later I have hard spots again only half as bad as the first time though. It's annoying, especially its my daily driver. Any similar problems on your end?
i have heard breakins do more harm them good your better off this driving it around town for while to break them in then do there process i learned the hard way just with regular systems and performance rotors and pads
Drilled rotors tear up pad lining and if it overheated it causes patches on the rotors which give a car or truck the shakes when the brakes are applies. Grooved rotors with stock type pads are best on the street. Competition pads are better suited for the track.
Get brimbo's
How did you make the new caliper fit the holes for the old caliper? The big brake kit comes with a longer distance between the mounting bolts.
Great video. Nice install walk through.
Man .you need t run fo president
What brake calipers were you using before? I liked the red and the Challenger logo. Those looked nice.
Those were stock painted calipers.
Where did you get that shirt at in the first part of the video when you pulled away from the Mustang I want to get one just like that
Local Dodge Dealer had them.
What whould be the point of switching factory calipers brakes and rotors to slotted. Dont they do the same job..? I mean I get the slotted rotors can stay cooler but is thir any proof this is a huge performance upgrade. I mean brembo front brakes set up is like 4 grand. So is this even worth it.
I think you might want to watch the entire video.
@@SpeedysGarage other than that I guess you just wanted to show us how to do the brake job and thanks for that good video but man stock stx just ant worth it should have just got a 392......
Are the brake pads the same Brembo regular size that comes on the SRT that are easy to find or do I only have to buy this pads from baer's?
Corvette pads if memory serves
Those are nice
Great job man!
Will this work on a V6 I heard the brakes on the V6 and the V8 share the same brakes
watched all your videos and still can't get enough of them. curious about the new garage, that looks awesome by the way. Did you have it built separate from the house.
Yep, shop is a separate structure. I've had a lot of emails and questions about it so I plan to do a video series on the planning/design and execution that should help folks considering similar projects. Little things I learned a long the way have made a huge difference in day to day use.
Speedy's Garage thanks for getting back to me. I have watched all your videos and love the detail you give in the projects. Hopefully you do some mods to the cat. love to see how much more hp you can squeeze out of that beast.
This don’t work on a 2010 challenger does it
So I don’t need to change my spindles to the srt spindles???
Super informative. I know this is an old video, but would you say there is a significant weight difference between the stock rotors/brakes and these Baers?
I think I showed the weight difference in the video. I don't remember off the top of my head.
5 lbs according to the video
Great intro Speedy! I know you don't have this car anymore, but was just curious as to why you went with Baer instead of say Brembo brakes?
Easier fit and better stopping power.
@@SpeedysGarage The fit I get, as I know the Brembo's require replacement of the front spindles on the R/T with those from an SRT. Now that you have the Hellcat, which has the Brembo's, which do you like better?
The Hellcat Brembos are pretty good, but the Baers stopped Orange Krush about 20 feet shorter.
@@SpeedysGarage Good to know! Thanks for the info as always Speedy! 👍🏼
@@SpeedysGarage thanks for the kind words speedy. I work for Baer and I take pride in my work. Great video! 👍
Are these made for 2018 challenger v6 sxt also ?
So you don't need to purchase the srt knuckles for the baer install
Nope
With straight vaned rotors do you determine the left and right as if you were sitting in the drivers seat or if you were standing outside the vehicle and facing it from the front? My new straight vaned drilled and slotted rotors are labeled left and right but I need an answer to my previous question for proper installation placement. Thanks
I am ordering this set this weekend, do pads come with the kit?
Very nice man!
Great video!
Do you need to upgrade the master cylinder or something else to keep up with the added Pistons?
Nope.
where did you buy your kit at ? your info videos are the best
+Hawkeye Hillbilly Got mine straight from Baer Brakes. Glad you like the videos!
In Europe we don't know BEAR brakes!!!
Saw this the first time in TV shows like "rides" or "overhaulin'".
In quality, with what System do they can messed/compared with?
Like BREMBO, STOP TECH, AP Racing, Alcon....?
Or with Ksport, D2, XYZ etc....?
When I see (for example) "overhaulin'" with Chip Foose, than they always put that BEARs in the cars..... why?
Do Foose have a special membership with that BEAR?
Sorry my bad English but I'm learning, thank you
Greets from Switzerland
Hey man I work for Baer and to answer your question Foose tried most of the big brake companies out there and found out that for the money Baer is by far the best. Those are his words not mine. If you ever have questions about us please contact us and we'll answer any questions you might have.
I work for baer brakes so if anyone has any questions please let me know
Justin R What causes the hard spots folks keep complaining about?
Sorry I didn't see this earlier but I'm confused by the comment. What exactly is happening and what system are you using? If you contact us we'll do anything and everything to help make it right.
I know this is a old video but how do these compare against your new hellcat brakes ?
Close to the same if I'm honest. You saw how short they'd stop Orange Krush if I stayed off the ABS. There's another video on the channel where I change out the Hellcat brake pads to something less dusty, I do some 60-0 stops in that to compare.
great video man and love how they look as well. theres a like and a subscribe for ya buddy
Nice vid👍Im Putting in a SC into my rt. Just wondering if this BBK is enough to stop those horses? Would appreciate the advice. Thanks
Yep, this brakes are the shizzle. Stops me at the drag strip from 130MPH with just a toe on the pedal.
God please tell me these will fit 18'' police wheels!!
does this need hellcat spindle for my 2022 rt?
I'm looking at upgrading my stock rotors on my RT. I'm not building a race car, just looking to keep it performing stock, minus the subpar brake rotors. What would you recommend for a rotor that fits with the stock caliper brackets, etc.?
+Michael Schlimmer See if you can find a set of slotted rotors of stock spec and you'll have what you're looking for. I also recently put a set of EBC Red Stuff brakes on a car and so far so good with those as well.
Let me start off by saying you have an amazing challenger.I'm 16 and got a 6 speed 2013 challenger rt for a 16th birthday present and I'm a bit of a gear head and am wonder what upgrade should be made first.I already have a skip shift eliminator on it and and looking for good performance upgrades on a part time budget. Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.
+airsoft21887 Congrats on getting a very nice ride as a 16th birthday present. Honestly, if I were you I'd put a nice mellow cat back system on the car for a good note and just drive it. Save your money for now as these cars have a lot of performance right off the show room floor. Most bolt ons won't do a whole lot and superchargers are likely outside of a part time budget.
Thank you for your advice
Will this system fit on the 2010 Dodge Ram 1500
Great video bro!! Where did you get the headrest with the r/t logo?
Those were custom ebroidered. The folks that did it retired unfortunately, but upholsterer shops should be able to do it.
How would you compare these brakes over the Brembo's used in the SRT models? just curious.
I've driven both and the Baers are a bit better than the SRT brakes. Hard to quantify based on my opinion of how they "feel" but the Baers really grab and seem to not get heat fatigue.
Speedy's Garage Thanks for the reply. Just makes me miss the Challenger I had that much more, nice to see people posting videos on these cars. (too many Stang and Camaro videos! XD )
Looks great but $8000+ (combined) front and rear setup
Yes pricey, but other than the supercharger made the biggest difference to the driving experience.
pretty sure these are in the $4k range, not $8k. baer does have the extreme, more expensive, but i do not believe these are those.
@@drm9979 The 15" Extreme are $10,080 plus tax and shipping and labor to install. Extremely expensive. Best in breed I am sure, but it is costly.
You didn't even let him pull up pfffft
great video
I ordered a set of rear brakes. I have to wait to afford the fronts. How are these holding up?
+James Orr Doing great. Huge upgrade and while expensive, definitely worth it on a powerful car.
Yes. I beat them all day. In my rt. With a rt. So sad that a rt will smoke 💨 mustang all day !!!!!
When you take off your wheels to change the brakes do you need to reset the tpms sensors?
Nope, they're good to go.
Okay great thanks for letting me know
Works on 18 inch stock wheels?
I believe so, but you'll want to check with the template as I explained in the video.
man stop playing with them mustangs
What size is the original rotor you took off, is that a 13.6 or a 14
I don't recall but it was a stock R/T rotor.
13.6 is stock for the front on a r/t and 12.8 for the rear
...waves good bye to a woman driving a v6 mustang...
Ballpark what did the parts run?
You can find pricing online.
HA epic bye bye mustang
What is the cost for this
You can look online and find that, but I will say it's NOT cheap.
Very interesting video. i have a 2014 Dodge Challenger SXT Plus, 100th year anniversary edition. what information do i need to order the Baer Brake Upgrade at SpeedysGarage.com? I will have them installed at the dealership where i bought the car. Thanks.
how much is this kit
A LOT unfortunately. Worth it though!
How much is the kit ?
A LOT unfortunately. You can find pricing on the Baer site for your specific application.
will this kit work on a 2013 sxt. as well?
I believe so but you'll want to confirm.