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This movie was written by someone who kinda saw Borderlands being played once by their nephew when they came inside to find the bathroom during a family BBQ.
No. They didn't. He wrote a draft of it. And that draft was entirely rewritten by Eli Roth and his co writer. Notice Craig Mazin isn't credited? @@maxpops8427
Eli Roth honestly has the weirdest filmography at this point. Like, Robert Rodriguez level. The gap between their amazing work and their cringe work is wider than the fkn Grand Canyon
Ha ha ha ha ha you expect old fuddy-duddy boomers who think they are better than the gaming industry to actually stop doing crap like this? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha you're funny
Unfortunately they probably won't stop making bad movies based on video games especially if they can't capture the reason why the game works to begin with
@@frederickshaibani5655That's the point where I usually start wondering about how much the rest of the production team was contributing. Many an editor has saved a movie, after all.
Its kinda weird, did the makers of the Borderlands movie watch Fallout? If they did they had to know their movie was going to crash and burn. Why not cancel and claim it as a tax write off, or try to sell it to a streaming service?
Very ironic that they turn the Borderlands series which is famously known for its M-rating into a PG-13 movie thinking that it would earn them more money while an R-rated movie just made a billion dollars in 3 weeks.
Also, odd choice to aim the movie at kids who legally can't buy any of the games without adult supervision. Also, the vast majority of the fanbase is probably (close to) adult since the first game came out well over a decade ago.
I don't play Borderlands, but my friend does. I asked him if Kevin Hart would've been a better fit for Claptrap than Roland, and after thinking for a few seconds, he said, "...Yeah, actually."
Thinking more about it, Kevin Hart would be better as Claptrap cause he's got that annoying sidekick character down to a T. Combine that with his ability and timing to rib on people, Hart would actually be a better Claptrap.
All of the characters were miscasts. Why pay huge money for any Hollywood actor when they could have got the original Claptrap voice actor, David Eddings, for a fraction of the cost? Lilith and Roland were just... Wrong. In playing it safe they failed. They should have done what Telltale did with Tales from the Borderlands. Used the setting but make the protagonists new and original characters with maybe a few main characters from the game as side characters.
Randy Pitchford defending the twist that Lilith, the most popular siren from the series that has been known about since before the release of Borderlands 1, was in fact that siren in the movie is probably my favorite post-release meltdown I've seen.
"But in movie, makes sense 'cause nobody ain't played the game" - that guy is stupid af, also claiming during his meltdown that Borderlands was "made by him and his friends". The guy is not the creative director of the series, BL has seen an atrocious downgrade from 2 to 3 and several devs had to be cut down since magic Randy is one hack of a business man, fumbling Colonial Marines as badly as he did.
One of the best things about the borderlands games was it's self-aware, 'wacky' humor, and I really don't think it's specific brand could work in any other medium. For example, one of my favourite bits in the games is when the antagonist gives you a mission kill yourself by jumping off a cliff. You respawn in the game, so there's not really any reason not to do it, since it gives XP and money, but after you do the antagonist is like "I can't believe you actually did that LMAO, you loser". Handsome Jack heckling you throughout your efforts is essential to the experience! Also Tiny Tina just doesn't work without swearing!
The single image that sums up how little effort was put into the Borderlands movie is the picture of the professional actress of Hollywood in an outfit that is vastly outdone by random cosplayers.
I read that Craig Mazin (writer and producer of Chernobyl and The last of us) was the original writer but the director wanted to impose his vision, and re-wrote everything so much that he left in 2023 and didnt want his name in the movie
Eli Roth finished this film in 2022, Tim Miller did extensive reshoots because the studio didn't like that it was Rated R and that's probably when Craig stepped out
This is why it is sometimes a bad thing for movies to have their director and writer be different people. On a good day, I can accept when the director and writer are different people who at least agree on the same story vision, but Borderlands is a bad day when they can not agree on the same story. That sort of creative disagreement caused Superman Lives to be canceled before it even started filming! Plus, the rewrites added lots of new ideas and gimmicks that would have been more expensive to film.
@@Elcho0S Well if you said nope, since we all know renowned movie trivia source Elcho0S, we'll all just believe *your* unsubstantiated claims and not _aaaaanyone_ else's
I thought jack black as claptrap was gonna be the worst part of this movie, but after seeing it, Jamie lee Curtis turned out to be so much worse. It’s kind of insane how awful she was in the role
every time i see her on the cover i think "oh so she's like a corporate military general yeah ?" and then I remember that she's supposed to be Tannis ???
I'll give Jamie credit for coming off as extremly bad in conversations just like Tannis who gets so invested in her work she seemingly forgets how to talk to humans. That's everything positive I'm going to say though
I think the first problem was just going for names when casting and not going for people that actually fit the characters and the vibe of the thing they are supposed to be in
@@somerandolad Hart as Roland was the least of the problems. He put in a passable imitation of cocky BL1-era Roland, even though he's a little short for a stormtrooper. The casting didn't kill it. The formulaic, generic script killed it.
I've liked Hart in some roles, but... Why, oh why, would you cast him as a character who's supposed to be the strong, reliable, conscientious, straight-man type?
Its basically like eli roth (or whoever did the casting) saw the games had comedy and there was a black guy in it and was like "comedy? Black guy? I KNOW JUST WHO TO CALL" Like literally this is the one time a dwayne johnson casting wouldnt be a terrible idea and the chose THE GUY WHOS FAMOUSLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE ROCK
Its box-office take would lead one to believe that the entirety of its viewership was either critics, or people who accidentally purchased tickets for the wrong movie.
I mean, its really not shocking that Borderlands pulled in a crowd. Before it was a notably shitty movie it was one really great game and a few good ones.
Honestly same. Like no hate to Kevin Hart. I really enjoy his comedy and a ton of his other work. But when he's cast in blockbuster it's just such an obvious "we need an A list celeb to get butts in seats" move.
By far the funniest thing to come out of this film isn't a scene from the film itself, but the absolute s-tier unhinged meltdown Randy Pitchford is having on twitter YET AGAIN. Lmfao 😂
Why they casted Kevin Hart instead of Terry Crews for Roland and all three female characters are all played by old women when their characters in game are in their late 20's or early 30's baffles me
Comes down to randy Pitchford. This movie was announced ten years ago and most of the cast are a-listers who make sense in the context that Randy has wanted to make a name in Hollywood. Jack Black being Claptrap was something that Randy went out of his way for and well, explains most barring Krieg and Tina. That and same goes for the story, Randy is the owner of Gearbox and the bulk of the funding and the IP fall under him. Doesn't help that one of the producers is the man behind the solo Spider-Man solo villain flicks. Craig Mazin had also wrote a very different version, before Eli Roth was brought on and rewrote the script, than was shelved as it was ready to go out in 2021, but got reshoots with Tim Miller before it's release now. This movie even existing in any capacity is surprising.
Casting choices aside, JLC's interests tend to line up with the average nerd (of her generation), so she shows up in these sorts of projects. If they ever offered her something Warcraft, she'd be there.
Someone on Letterboxd said this about the movie, and I'm paraphrasing, cause I don't remember the exact words: "Watching this movie is like wanting to throw up but before you can do that, you die from cancer."
Mordecai and Brick weren't there. Steele was nowhere to be found and The Destroyer... Actually that boss sucked, they could keep him out. But regardless this felt like a cheap imitation despite having Gearbox on board!
*because having them on board In hindsight, Randy had his own impression of what parts of the games he wanted present, cause he considers them good or important.
Also the weird thing of treating Kreig like... like Tina's pet?? Like I get that Kreig is often used as some comedic relief in-universe, but it feels pretty damn uncomfortable how he's treated like some kind of circus animal Tina has when his entire backstory is about how he was tortured and experimented on to the point where he lost his mind and his memories. Just rubs me the wrong way.
Eli Roth is not provocative. Maïmouna Doucouré is provocative. Emerald Fennel is provocative. Eli Roth is an edge lord. He always has been. He (like Zach Snyder) became a famous director when it was cool to be an edge lord, now it only highlights their stunted growth as creators.
using the word "provocative" to describe the director of the movie "Cuties", a movie that is about glorifying prepubescent girls performing sexual dances for 90minutes under the false pretense of criticism, is not the best choice of words. Id lean more towards "creep", well actually i just wouldnt bring her up. Especially not as a measuring stick of any kind. Absolutely disgusting to mention Emerald in the same breath too. Her actual meaningful work does not deserve to be despoiled with comparrisons to Prince Andrews favourite dircetor.
Why is Roth so attached to this movie. He was barely involved in the writing and a lot of his directing was reshot. Plus the fact that it is PG-13 should show it isn't his typical style
I never played much border lands, but for the love of God why was this live action in the first place? Borderlands has such a colorful cartoony aesthetic with hard lines and shadows, imagine if they made this movie to look like spider verse or arcane. I realize this movie probably has bigger problems story wise but I still think its a baffling decision not to make this animated
The movie gives a strong impression of the script having gone under the editing equivalent of a game of "telephone". Someone wrote a script that might have been at least somewhat reminiscent of the actual games, and then it sat around for a while and someone unfamiliar with the games picked up the script and said, "hey, this gives me a few 'great' ideas", and they then proceed to rearrange and replace sections of the script, veering always closer to well-known industry-standard tropes. Rinse/repeat this a half dozen times. That's what the script feels like - more like a generic low-budget B-grade sci-fi movie, with Borderlands Easter eggs glued onto it. Related, there are rumors that the original cut was *much* bloodier (as are the games), and... seemingly the studio reacted in horror and demanded it be dialed back. I think they wanted a PG-13 Marvel movie with Marvel levels of ticket sales.
lol yeah, the mystery isn't even a thing in the games. Tina isn't set up as a "chosen one" and Lilith's siren powers are shown in the first minute of the first game.
@@MicrofootRight? She literally uses her powers to move an entire city to avoid an orbital bombardment, this movie has absolutely nothing more to the characters being portrayed other than names, vague outfit descriptions, and a vague description of their abilities
Bro I didn’t wanna give this any money but a work mate went to see it and said that was overall the big problem it’s a whatever film for people who haven’t played and shit on the face to people who have 😂
Can we be grateful Detective Pikachu, the Sonic Movies, & the Mario Movie were created by actual fans who love and respected their original source materials.
Marvel fans: "We want VENOM to be R-Rated." Avi Arad: "VENOM will be PG-13, so everyone can bring their children to watch it. It will be fun for the whole family." Me: "þussy"
All the casting choices besides kreig and tiny tina just were so baffling to me, claptrap is passable but you have the OG voice actor for him right there which most likely would pull more people who played the games but yeah roland, lillith and tanis all being really famous actors that just don't seem to fit the characters that well, also getting big old school stars in these video game adaptations always baffles me because they can say all they want but i dont believe most of them know what some of these games even are
Some of Blanchetts co-stars said she was practicing for other movies while on set for borderlands and I can't blame her. No amount of effort from the actors could have saved this movie.
The "something was there but it was gone" feeling maybe came from the original screenwriter Craig Mazin. It was then rewritten by Roth, and Mazin didn't want anything with the movie anymore and asked he's only credited with an alias.
From the POV of someone who played the games its much worse. -Lilith who is known as the Firehawk only got that title POST Siren. The movie somehow swapped that -Lilith somehow reloads the Infinity pistol, a Legendary gun that has infinite ammo and doesnt reload -During the Marcus scene selling guns you can visually see the subtext "Digi-Clone" which is a ability for Zane from BL3 who is not only not in the movie but also means the SFX designers probably just lifted a screenshot of the gun from the game (where the player is playing as Zane to see that text, other characters wont see it) instead of just making the visual effect properly -Annointment existing despite that tech only being possible post Siren powers when a BL3 villain, Troy experimented with it after getting Maya's powers (a siren from BL2)
Making the twist that Lilith is a siren or fire haw is such a weird choice to me because that’s like the first thing you learn about her in the game. I know this movie is for those who don’t play video games but leaving out information about a character that help make her interesting is odd. There’s only six siren in borderlands world. Maybe they should have lean in the into that and explore how she feels about it. I know thats Cliche too but it’s better than whatever they did here.
The core issue I had with this movie after seeing the trailer was that it just seems like a worse Guardians of the Galaxy and in that light, why would I watch it instead of three of the best superhero movies of all time? I'm not sure even making it R-rated would save I think that would just give a similar vibe to Deadpool 3.
AVI ARAD has ruined so far... * Borderlands * Daredevil (2003) * The Punisher (2004) * Elektra (2005) * Fantastic Four (2005) * X-Men: The Last Stand * Spider-Man 3 * Bratz (2007) * Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance * The Amazing Spider-Man 2 * Ghost in the Shell (2017) * Venom: Let There Be Carnage * Uncharted (2022) * Morbius And now he's gonna ruin... * Kraven the Hunter * Venom: The Last Dance * Legend of Zelda * Naruto As long Arad lives, there's no hope
Like the amount of laziness in this movie’s development, writing and directing is disgustingly insulting to any fans of this game franchise. From the casting at the very start, I think all of us borderlands fans knew this is going to be a train wreck. I still think this could’ve made for a halfway decent rated R TV series, but it seems Hollywood will never be able to pull their heads out of their asses and actually direct good media based on a good IP.
yeah, the way I hear it, the biggest spoiler about this movie is Lilith turns out to be the siren. Which is pretty bizarre considering the first game came out in 2009 and literally opens up with a freeze frame of her and the captions "Lilith as the siren" lmao
Borderlands was popular sure about over a decade ago And even then it was never that mainstream So im absolutely confused why they released a big budget borderland movie pong after the games were relevant
As a fan of the games... This stung. I knew I wasn't going to like it because Kevin Hart is such a bad pick for Roland but he does better than most everyone else. This could have been decent, good even. At least the movie led to a sale on all the games and I could pick up the few DLCs I was missing.
As someone who likes the games I checked out as soon as i saw the cast and more specifically the roles. mixing protagonists from 1 and 2 together and having antags from 1 was an obvious red flag. And hearing that they didnt do much with Krieg is heartbreaking. Meat bicycle for two is still such a great piece of animation and character writing, reducing that guy to "store brand Drax" is plain criminal
Having ambition is all it takes to make a videogame adaptation work That's why most of the recent adaptations, like "Sonic The Hedgehog", "The Last of Us ", "Dungeons and Dragons" and "Arcane" worked Because the people behind it understood the games, and understood filmmaking In the past, the studios hired anyone to do anything, without a care in the world
This is an insane thing to say, in what world is ambition all it takes to make a movie work? There have been tons of very ambitious films that turned out terribly
@@schmiddi5768 But there are projects where the people behind it try to make it work, and those that don't even try it This movie is one of them The same goes for anime adaptation
Games adaptations aren't "cursed". You might have to think outside the box when you take into account that you're adapting something from a different medium. Which is why instead of recreating the exact story taken from the source material, many directors choose to tell a story using the setting of the game. Maybe compelling lore mentioned in the material prior. Games are paced and strucutred differently from a movie. They tend to be twice as long as a film's average runspan at minimum. It's hard to fit all that in 2-3 hours worth of footage. This is why shows are an appealing alternative for an adaptation, the run-time is longer and they have more clearly defined "chapters" that can let the audience gather info at a controlled pace without feeling overstuffed. We've seen this angle with shows like Castlevania and Cyberpunk Edgerunners. I know these are animated projects, but the thought-process is the same.
I would actually recommend revisiting the borderlands telltale game as i feel it’s the best story from the franchise with solid characters and some really funny jokes. I felt it was one of the best games from telltale besides the walking dead and Batman as it uses the game art style effectively and has some really solid integration of previous characters without making new players feel out of the loop I kinda wished they chose to adapt a story similar to that one rather than the mainline games since the games are more of a video game plot whereas the telltale game is what a story in this world should be
Hey guys if u know what you’re walking into and don’t have any expectations anything can be good. Went to see this w my friends knowing it was bad, and knowing that, we didn’t care, and had a lot of fun. Better to see a bad movie for fun than a mid movie that will frustrate you
Instead of watching this (even ironically), just play the first Tales from the Borderlands. It’s got that chunky older Telltale feel, but the characters are fantastic and the story is simple but effective. I played it before the mainline games and it sucked me right in. A competent Borderlands story exists, but you won’t find it in a theater.
Borderlands was the first movie I knew would suck based solely on the cast. The producers clearly wanted name recognition to try and draw in a larger audience, not because those actors fit the roles.
Everything about this movie sounded off! Eli Roth is directing, Cate Blanchett is playing a lead, and Kevin Hart is miscast. So many strange decisions.
That Lilith is a siren is the first thing you learn about her before you even know her *name*. In the character select in BL1 she is billed as the Siren! It makes 0 sense to use "who's the siren?" when Lilith is RIGHT THERE as the core mystery, even if the rest of the parts of this movie didn't suck.
I have heard that the director actually made it more bloody and more like the video game, and studio execs lost their s---. They then made all sorts of cuts and reshots. I am not sure how much of that is true, but it would not surprise me at all.
@@Mattikron Claptrap's _appearance_ (not voice) is pretty much spot on. Moxxi and Marcus have workable casting (not game-accurate, but kinda fit the characters), there is, indeed, a bus, they wear electronic masks at one point that are a nice nod to the in-game cosmetics, and the got the name of the planet ("Pandora") and the shape of the vault symbol (slightly rounded inverted "V") right. And... that's about it. So much wasted potential. For me, perhaps the biggest "wait, what?" moment was when they said they had to go through "Caustic Caverns" to get to where they were going - in the games, this is a cool, huge, underground map. In the movie, Caustic Caverns was... a standard sewer pipe. Oh, but it has glowy green slime in it, so that totally redeems the courageous location choice (/s).
No you dope, that’s the wrong anderson, they gave it to paul anderson, and they chose him because he was the one that directed there will be blood and punch drunk love
What probably happened is corporate influence slowly took over, and rotted the product from the inside out to the point where it probably doesn't even look the same. The plot is probably the same, but that's it.
Borderlands is a game series that, I think, is mostly entertaining due to it's gameplay - 'Get Gun, Shoot Gun, Get Loot, Repeat'. So it's not at all surprising that a film of the series would fail to get people to go and see it.
In his defence, I think the finished product had very little to do with Eli Roth. If they had of just let him put his horror stamp on it, it could have been great. Imagine a competently director R rated movie game adaptation taking a spot after Deadpool starts losing numbers, the studion would have cleaned up
I just started playing Borderlands 2 and omg this game is fun. Dunno anything about the series though. Also my character taking second wind and being like " I am not dead yet".
Instead of making this movie for actual fans of the franchise, they tried to make it for (what they perceived to be) the larger audience of non-fans. That's what went wrong.
Stop making this a "fans vs non fans" thing. Even if the movie did all the things fans wanted, it still was mired in so much shit it wouldn't have salvaged it.
Whoever cast this movie clearly had a gilf kink and it made the ads and posters actively unappealing to a mass market. Clearly, nobody with decision making power had enough commercial sense to force them to cast a few young and conventionally attractive actresses to appeal to mass audiences. It's unsurprising that nobody with power had a clue of what to do with the story or how to save it with the reshoots. The best decision anybody made with this film was to kill the marketing spend to limit their losses.
All I can remember was a prerelease clip of Eli Roth excitedly talking about the violence and action scenes, and Randy Pitchford basically shushing him and saying it's a faaamily film. So I think the blame lies less on Roth with this one...
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it is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer . A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household thank you Jesus
Weirdly enough, I like Eli Roth but don’t like any of his movies. I like him in interviews, though, and that he’s passionate about movies. He seems like a nice guy. He just never makes movies I’m interested in.
I really wish they got the VA for claptrap in, heck make a 3D animated movie in the style of arcane, I garentee it would've been better. This was designed to flop, and I'm upset as a fan that this happened.
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No.
Felt like a Guardians Of The Galaxy knock of.
I really liked Thanksgiving.
What’s the Jazz music track you use for your background music?
I was able to watch it for free, and I want my money back.
This movie was written by someone who kinda saw Borderlands being played once by their nephew when they came inside to find the bathroom during a family BBQ.
And that someone also wrote the last of us show
It's like that one Avatar movie that never happened.
@@momon969it didn't. We don't talk about that.
No. They didn't. He wrote a draft of it. And that draft was entirely rewritten by Eli Roth and his co writer. Notice Craig Mazin isn't credited? @@maxpops8427
@@Largentina. He removed his name once less competent people got involved
It's the sort of video game movie we all hoped Hollywood had finally moved past.
Eli Roth honestly has the weirdest filmography at this point. Like, Robert Rodriguez level.
The gap between their amazing work and their cringe work is wider than the fkn Grand Canyon
Ha ha ha ha ha you expect old fuddy-duddy boomers who think they are better than the gaming industry to actually stop doing crap like this? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha you're funny
Unfortunately they probably won't stop making bad movies based on video games especially if they can't capture the reason why the game works to begin with
@@frederickshaibani5655That's the point where I usually start wondering about how much the rest of the production team was contributing. Many an editor has saved a movie, after all.
Its kinda weird, did the makers of the Borderlands movie watch Fallout? If they did they had to know their movie was going to crash and burn. Why not cancel and claim it as a tax write off, or try to sell it to a streaming service?
Very ironic that they turn the Borderlands series which is famously known for its M-rating into a PG-13 movie thinking that it would earn them more money while an R-rated movie just made a billion dollars in 3 weeks.
THIS. This comment. You’re dead on 🤷♂️😂
#IBlameAviArad
Also, odd choice to aim the movie at kids who legally can't buy any of the games without adult supervision. Also, the vast majority of the fanbase is probably (close to) adult since the first game came out well over a decade ago.
It's probably what got cut, I bet it was R rated and the studio cut it to make it PG-13 which ruined it.
Honestly, an R rating wouldn’t have saved this. They should have spared the brand and wrote this off like WB
I don't play Borderlands, but my friend does. I asked him if Kevin Hart would've been a better fit for Claptrap than Roland, and after thinking for a few seconds, he said, "...Yeah, actually."
That was my thought too. Though i think Black mostly worked as Claptrap. Or at the very least, i laughed the most at his jokes.
Yeah I thought Roland would have been way taller, not 5'1"
Thinking more about it, Kevin Hart would be better as Claptrap cause he's got that annoying sidekick character down to a T. Combine that with his ability and timing to rib on people, Hart would actually be a better Claptrap.
Kevin as claptrap and The Rock as Roland. The better movie that never was. lol
All of the characters were miscasts. Why pay huge money for any Hollywood actor when they could have got the original Claptrap voice actor, David Eddings, for a fraction of the cost? Lilith and Roland were just... Wrong. In playing it safe they failed. They should have done what Telltale did with Tales from the Borderlands. Used the setting but make the protagonists new and original characters with maybe a few main characters from the game as side characters.
Somehow... the video game movie curse returned.
#IBlameAviArad
We've suddenly travelled back to the mid 1990s.
@@somerandolad Or the early 2000s
Avi Arad is like the reverse Midas. Everything he touches turns to shit. Morbius, Uncharted, Venom, Ghost in the Shell, TASM 2, and now Borderlands
Hollywood just never learns anything
“What went wrong?”
EVERYTHING! EVERY REASON TO WAKE UP IN THE MORNING!
RANDY went wrong with it
Is that a John Pinette reference?
#IBlameAviArad
@@Zombiesnyder13Agreed
Randy Pitchford defending the twist that Lilith, the most popular siren from the series that has been known about since before the release of Borderlands 1, was in fact that siren in the movie is probably my favorite post-release meltdown I've seen.
"But in movie, makes sense 'cause nobody ain't played the game" - that guy is stupid af, also claiming during his meltdown that Borderlands was "made by him and his friends".
The guy is not the creative director of the series, BL has seen an atrocious downgrade from 2 to 3 and several devs had to be cut down since magic Randy is one hack of a business man, fumbling Colonial Marines as badly as he did.
the fact people still give him money is crasy
bro this is like saying that uncle Ben dies on a Spider-man movie is the most unexpected thing possible
Of course *Randy Pitchford* would defend it.
@@benoitbrown9400Is it the same? I thought that was more of like a “oh shit it’s happening” moment and less of a twist.
One of the best things about the borderlands games was it's self-aware, 'wacky' humor, and I really don't think it's specific brand could work in any other medium. For example, one of my favourite bits in the games is when the antagonist gives you a mission kill yourself by jumping off a cliff. You respawn in the game, so there's not really any reason not to do it, since it gives XP and money, but after you do the antagonist is like "I can't believe you actually did that LMAO, you loser". Handsome Jack heckling you throughout your efforts is essential to the experience! Also Tiny Tina just doesn't work without swearing!
She does swear in the movie.
@@ibrahimalee23 Ah, haven't seen it, I made that assumption based on something said in this video, sorry bout that
The single image that sums up how little effort was put into the Borderlands movie is the picture of the professional actress of Hollywood in an outfit that is vastly outdone by random cosplayers.
I read that Craig Mazin (writer and producer of Chernobyl and The last of us) was the original writer but the director wanted to impose his vision, and re-wrote everything so much that he left in 2023 and didnt want his name in the movie
Eli Roth finished this film in 2022, Tim Miller did extensive reshoots because the studio didn't like that it was Rated R and that's probably when Craig stepped out
@@GabeGarsia Nope, Craig Mazin stepped out because of Roth's changes to the script.
This is why it is sometimes a bad thing for movies to have their director and writer be different people. On a good day, I can accept when the director and writer are different people who at least agree on the same story vision, but Borderlands is a bad day when they can not agree on the same story. That sort of creative disagreement caused Superman Lives to be canceled before it even started filming! Plus, the rewrites added lots of new ideas and gimmicks that would have been more expensive to film.
It was all in the can by 2020 or something. I think they have been desperately trying to fix it in the edit since.
@@Elcho0S Well if you said nope, since we all know renowned movie trivia source Elcho0S, we'll all just believe *your* unsubstantiated claims and not _aaaaanyone_ else's
I thought jack black as claptrap was gonna be the worst part of this movie, but after seeing it, Jamie lee Curtis turned out to be so much worse. It’s kind of insane how awful she was in the role
every time i see her on the cover i think "oh so she's like a corporate military general yeah ?" and then I remember that she's supposed to be Tannis ???
Same! I actually didn't mind Claptrap because he was the only one that was at least into it.
All these actors and actress are good on their own respective movies. This is not just bad casting, but bad at everything
Didnt even realise she was meant to be TANNIS from the trailers, this casting is so weird
I'll give Jamie credit for coming off as extremly bad in conversations just like Tannis who gets so invested in her work she seemingly forgets how to talk to humans. That's everything positive I'm going to say though
I think the first problem was just going for names when casting and not going for people that actually fit the characters and the vibe of the thing they are supposed to be in
I would've casted Millie Bobbie Brown, Sarah Snook, and Sydney Sweeney. They would've been perfect.
Simply put, the film came out ten years too late. And it was destined to fail as soon as they cast Kevin Hart as Roland.
Definetly.
and yet, people seem to nearly unanimously agree he was the least worst part?
@@somerandolad Hart as Roland was the least of the problems. He put in a passable imitation of cocky BL1-era Roland, even though he's a little short for a stormtrooper. The casting didn't kill it. The formulaic, generic script killed it.
I've liked Hart in some roles, but... Why, oh why, would you cast him as a character who's supposed to be the strong, reliable, conscientious, straight-man type?
Its basically like eli roth (or whoever did the casting) saw the games had comedy and there was a black guy in it and was like "comedy? Black guy? I KNOW JUST WHO TO CALL"
Like literally this is the one time a dwayne johnson casting wouldnt be a terrible idea and the chose THE GUY WHOS FAMOUSLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE ROCK
Its box-office take would lead one to believe that the entirety of its viewership was either critics, or people who accidentally purchased tickets for the wrong movie.
I mean, its really not shocking that Borderlands pulled in a crowd. Before it was a notably shitty movie it was one really great game and a few good ones.
@@syrune BL2 was a fucking awesome game with DLC that blew everyhting else at that time out of the water.
@@bbbk123thrn 3 came fell victim to the girlboss cruse
@@syrune It... it didn't pull in a crowd, though. That's the main point of the OP's comment
The moment Kevin Hart is cast in a movie, I know it ain't for me
Same
Honestly same. Like no hate to Kevin Hart. I really enjoy his comedy and a ton of his other work. But when he's cast in blockbuster it's just such an obvious "we need an A list celeb to get butts in seats" move.
Has he been in a single movie that's more than a 7/10 at best?
*casted?
He's just not funny, not even close. In fact, he turns me off of most movies.
By far the funniest thing to come out of this film isn't a scene from the film itself, but the absolute s-tier unhinged meltdown Randy Pitchford is having on twitter YET AGAIN. Lmfao 😂
Borderland is this year’s Artemis fowl
too real
God I hope we get an apology series down the line like Percy Jackson. Just so this stain is so prominent at the very least.
or Mortal Engines 😢
As soon as I saw a 50-year-old cast as a 20-year-old character, I knew something was up
Why they casted Kevin Hart instead of Terry Crews for Roland and all three female characters are all played by old women when their characters in game are in their late 20's or early 30's baffles me
Good call on terry crews. I would've loved to see that
Comes down to randy Pitchford. This movie was announced ten years ago and most of the cast are a-listers who make sense in the context that Randy has wanted to make a name in Hollywood. Jack Black being Claptrap was something that Randy went out of his way for and well, explains most barring Krieg and Tina. That and same goes for the story, Randy is the owner of Gearbox and the bulk of the funding and the IP fall under him. Doesn't help that one of the producers is the man behind the solo Spider-Man solo villain flicks. Craig Mazin had also wrote a very different version, before Eli Roth was brought on and rewrote the script, than was shelved as it was ready to go out in 2021, but got reshoots with Tim Miller before it's release now.
This movie even existing in any capacity is surprising.
I don't even think Kevin Hart is all that funny. He's just a short guy who talks fast. I think Terry Crews is actually funny.
Eli Roth loves GILFs. That's why they're cast
Casting choices aside, JLC's interests tend to line up with the average nerd (of her generation), so she shows up in these sorts of projects. If they ever offered her something Warcraft, she'd be there.
Madame Web: "I will be the worst movie of 2024."
Borderlands: "Not on my watch!"
Disney's Live-Action Snow White: Hold My Toxic Feminimity.
@@collinkeyser6827that doesn't come out in 2024.
@@collinkeyser6827are all conservatives illiterate or just you?
Wasn't Madame Webb last year? o.O
Lmao
Someone on Letterboxd said this about the movie, and I'm paraphrasing, cause I don't remember the exact words:
"Watching this movie is like wanting to throw up but before you can do that, you die from cancer."
Thats a good one
Wow.
I can't get over the face and poses Cate Blanchett is constantly making
Mordecai and Brick weren't there. Steele was nowhere to be found and The Destroyer... Actually that boss sucked, they could keep him out. But regardless this felt like a cheap imitation despite having Gearbox on board!
*because having them on board
In hindsight, Randy had his own impression of what parts of the games he wanted present, cause he considers them good or important.
@@BigBossBernie The only way he could have made this worse is if he put in the villains from Borderlands 3!
Gearbox and cheap imitations have certainly never gone together before!!
Also the weird thing of treating Kreig like... like Tina's pet?? Like I get that Kreig is often used as some comedic relief in-universe, but it feels pretty damn uncomfortable how he's treated like some kind of circus animal Tina has when his entire backstory is about how he was tortured and experimented on to the point where he lost his mind and his memories. Just rubs me the wrong way.
Eli Roth is not provocative. Maïmouna Doucouré is provocative. Emerald Fennel is provocative. Eli Roth is an edge lord. He always has been. He (like Zach Snyder) became a famous director when it was cool to be an edge lord, now it only highlights their stunted growth as creators.
I'd take Eli Roth over Zack Snyder at any time. At least Roth knows how to make descent movies as of recent...
using the word "provocative" to describe the director of the movie "Cuties", a movie that is about glorifying prepubescent girls performing sexual dances for 90minutes under the false pretense of criticism, is not the best choice of words. Id lean more towards "creep", well actually i just wouldnt bring her up. Especially not as a measuring stick of any kind. Absolutely disgusting to mention Emerald in the same breath too. Her actual meaningful work does not deserve to be despoiled with comparrisons to Prince Andrews favourite dircetor.
I too enjoy a little edge and yeah I think you hit the nail on the head
Why is Roth so attached to this movie. He was barely involved in the writing and a lot of his directing was reshot. Plus the fact that it is PG-13 should show it isn't his typical style
@@TheParkerThirteenthe USA had two pedophiles running for president, this is normal
I never played much border lands, but for the love of God why was this live action in the first place? Borderlands has such a colorful cartoony aesthetic with hard lines and shadows, imagine if they made this movie to look like spider verse or arcane. I realize this movie probably has bigger problems story wise but I still think its a baffling decision not to make this animated
Oh dear. So many trains are getting wrecked lately.
The movie gives a strong impression of the script having gone under the editing equivalent of a game of "telephone". Someone wrote a script that might have been at least somewhat reminiscent of the actual games, and then it sat around for a while and someone unfamiliar with the games picked up the script and said, "hey, this gives me a few 'great' ideas", and they then proceed to rearrange and replace sections of the script, veering always closer to well-known industry-standard tropes. Rinse/repeat this a half dozen times. That's what the script feels like - more like a generic low-budget B-grade sci-fi movie, with Borderlands Easter eggs glued onto it.
Related, there are rumors that the original cut was *much* bloodier (as are the games), and... seemingly the studio reacted in horror and demanded it be dialed back. I think they wanted a PG-13 Marvel movie with Marvel levels of ticket sales.
Well put together, it is 100% a Syfy movie, but with a bigger budget
Yeah that really nailed what is visually off putting about the movie (aside from the color palette which is fine).
Lol, that editor's note 8:55
lol yeah, the mystery isn't even a thing in the games. Tina isn't set up as a "chosen one" and Lilith's siren powers are shown in the first minute of the first game.
@@MicrofootRight? She literally uses her powers to move an entire city to avoid an orbital bombardment, this movie has absolutely nothing more to the characters being portrayed other than names, vague outfit descriptions, and a vague description of their abilities
Bro I didn’t wanna give this any money but a work mate went to see it and said that was overall the big problem it’s a whatever film for people who haven’t played and shit on the face to people who have 😂
He got me, for sure. Almost woke my wife up with my laugh.
Can we be grateful Detective Pikachu, the Sonic Movies, & the Mario Movie were created by actual fans who love and respected their original source materials.
1. Having old actors playing parts 50 to 60 years old should be played by 25 to 35 old actors.
2. Have the movie 99% base on the game.
Marvel fans: "We want VENOM to be R-Rated."
Avi Arad: "VENOM will be PG-13, so everyone can bring their children to watch it. It will be fun for the whole family."
Me: "þussy"
Avi Arad: "Alright, just to be spiteful, we'll just make Kraven The Hunter R-rated, how's that?"
Venom fans: "F*CK THIS GUY"
#IBlameAviArad
Ahem, Deadpool & Wolverine.
Avi Arad also produced the Borderlands movie, no surprise here.
@@protoluigi2047which proves even more why the venom films should be R rated
Feels like the earlier Uwe Boll adaptations.
All the casting choices besides kreig and tiny tina just were so baffling to me, claptrap is passable but you have the OG voice actor for him right there which most likely would pull more people who played the games but yeah roland, lillith and tanis all being really famous actors that just don't seem to fit the characters that well, also getting big old school stars in these video game adaptations always baffles me because they can say all they want but i dont believe most of them know what some of these games even are
Hollywood really doesn't respect voice actors these days.
Both web and borderlands were produced by Avi Arad
I don't understand why more people aren't talking about this producer
#IBlameAviArad
He's awful
Ironically, Madame Web hasn't been produced by Arad
Though they did make the movie on the foundations Arad built with Venom and Morbius
He's also a marked producer for the spider-verse movies and an executive producer on the Tom Holland movies though so maybe it's something else
@@ChartreuseDan yes the movies where he has less creative control.
Some of Blanchetts co-stars said she was practicing for other movies while on set for borderlands and I can't blame her. No amount of effort from the actors could have saved this movie.
The "something was there but it was gone" feeling maybe came from the original screenwriter Craig Mazin. It was then rewritten by Roth, and Mazin didn't want anything with the movie anymore and asked he's only credited with an alias.
4:08 you can see someone on the crew help them open the lid. Dude wasn’t even edited out like how did you not see that. Covid mask and all.
From the POV of someone who played the games its much worse.
-Lilith who is known as the Firehawk only got that title POST Siren. The movie somehow swapped that
-Lilith somehow reloads the Infinity pistol, a Legendary gun that has infinite ammo and doesnt reload
-During the Marcus scene selling guns you can visually see the subtext "Digi-Clone" which is a ability for Zane from BL3 who is not only not in the movie but also means the SFX designers probably just lifted a screenshot of the gun from the game (where the player is playing as Zane to see that text, other characters wont see it) instead of just making the visual effect properly
-Annointment existing despite that tech only being possible post Siren powers when a BL3 villain, Troy experimented with it after getting Maya's powers (a siren from BL2)
I certainly hope they fire whoever is responsible for that blunder
“Early Gunn films… like Super”
Oh my god. I’m so old. My first and still favorite Gunn film was Tromeo and Juliet
Of course this was going to suck when Avi Arad was producing this
#IBlameAviArad
Tell that to Spider-Man 2
@@JamailvanWestering found avi arad’s alt
@@JamailvanWesteringLaura Ziskin was the only one capable to save it from Arad
After she died though, Arad had TASM2 all for himself
@@Zombiesnyder13 nope, Matt Tolmach also produced it
I cannot believe that film crew member is totally visible at 4:06. Yikes.
Making the twist that Lilith is a siren or fire haw is such a weird choice to me because that’s like the first thing you learn about her in the game. I know this movie is for those who don’t play video games but leaving out information about a character that help make her interesting is odd. There’s only six siren in borderlands world. Maybe they should have lean in the into that and explore how she feels about it. I know thats Cliche too but it’s better than whatever they did here.
The core issue I had with this movie after seeing the trailer was that it just seems like a worse Guardians of the Galaxy and in that light, why would I watch it instead of three of the best superhero movies of all time? I'm not sure even making it R-rated would save I think that would just give a similar vibe to Deadpool 3.
That's a pretty good summary of the games. So imagine having even less soul than THAT and boom. That's the movie. Haha.
AVI ARAD has ruined so far...
* Borderlands
* Daredevil (2003)
* The Punisher (2004)
* Elektra (2005)
* Fantastic Four (2005)
* X-Men: The Last Stand
* Spider-Man 3
* Bratz (2007)
* Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
* The Amazing Spider-Man 2
* Ghost in the Shell (2017)
* Venom: Let There Be Carnage
* Uncharted (2022)
* Morbius
And now he's gonna ruin...
* Kraven the Hunter
* Venom: The Last Dance
* Legend of Zelda
* Naruto
As long Arad lives, there's no hope
Since when are they making a Naruto movie?!
Disagree on Venom, those are dumb fun movies. Now Uncharted was...frankly mostly boring.
@@mesousagaby740While they can be dumb fun, they're poorly written
Hey man, he doesn't need to die, studios need to just stop giving him so much money. I do love the Venom movies tho
Its shocking the man still has a career with a resume like that...
You watched Hostel when you were 13? How did that not scar you for life?
Who said it didn’t?
@@captainmidnighti got scarred by steven spielberg’s war of the worlds, i’m sure hostel was in a buch of your nightmares haha
I watched Schindler's List in school as a kid. It's hard for anything else in my childhood to top that.
@@leithaziz2716why did you watch that one as a kid?
Knowing the difference between reality and fiction, probably
Like the amount of laziness in this movie’s development, writing and directing is disgustingly insulting to any fans of this game franchise. From the casting at the very start, I think all of us borderlands fans knew this is going to be a train wreck. I still think this could’ve made for a halfway decent rated R TV series, but it seems Hollywood will never be able to pull their heads out of their asses and actually direct good media based on a good IP.
I think it's funny, warning us about "spoilers"...you really can't spoil something when I already know it's going to be 💩. 😅 Great vid!!
yeah, the way I hear it, the biggest spoiler about this movie is Lilith turns out to be the siren.
Which is pretty bizarre considering the first game came out in 2009 and literally opens up with a freeze frame of her and the captions "Lilith as the siren" lmao
- Shut it off, Randy! SHUT IT OFF!!!! 😡
- It will stabilize, it's under control! 👍
LEGEND OF ZELDA will only stand a chance if Wes Ball works as a producer
It's the only way he can save it from Avi Arad
Just looked at who is writing it…HAHAHAHAHA
#IBlameAviArad
@@Zombiesnyder13 I‘m no fan of him, but your constant pestering of his name is just obnoxious and "simple" (to put it kindly).
@@Bale4Bond Somehow Ganondorf returned.
And HAS too have in the credits April - Deep Purple.
Borderlands was popular sure about over a decade ago
And even then it was never that mainstream
So im absolutely confused why they released a big budget borderland movie pong after the games were relevant
Lilith could have been Moxxie as old as she was.
Brick and Mordecai would have been great to have.
Bloodwing a agoreable mascot/team pet.
As a fan of the games... This stung. I knew I wasn't going to like it because Kevin Hart is such a bad pick for Roland but he does better than most everyone else. This could have been decent, good even. At least the movie led to a sale on all the games and I could pick up the few DLCs I was missing.
As someone who likes the games I checked out as soon as i saw the cast and more specifically the roles.
mixing protagonists from 1 and 2 together and having antags from 1 was an obvious red flag. And hearing that they didnt do much with Krieg is heartbreaking.
Meat bicycle for two is still such a great piece of animation and character writing, reducing that guy to "store brand Drax" is plain criminal
I have nightmares about ending up in a hostel situation and then hearing about how brilliant would help me
All the more a shame to see this flop in an era where we are getting some actually good video game adaptations.
When I was asked what I thought about Borderlands, being an optimist, pondered and said “the set decorators did a good job.”
@@GameOfDepth did they, though? Really?
@@CarlJacobsen it was literally more interesting to look at the walls because they had better story telling than the script.
Having ambition is all it takes to make a videogame adaptation work
That's why most of the recent adaptations, like "Sonic The Hedgehog", "The Last of Us ", "Dungeons and Dragons" and "Arcane" worked
Because the people behind it understood the games, and understood filmmaking
In the past, the studios hired anyone to do anything, without a care in the world
This is an insane thing to say, in what world is ambition all it takes to make a movie work? There have been tons of very ambitious films that turned out terribly
@@schmiddi5768 But there are projects where the people behind it try to make it work, and those that don't even try it
This movie is one of them
The same goes for anime adaptation
Games adaptations aren't "cursed". You might have to think outside the box when you take into account that you're adapting something from a different medium. Which is why instead of recreating the exact story taken from the source material, many directors choose to tell a story using the setting of the game. Maybe compelling lore mentioned in the material prior.
Games are paced and strucutred differently from a movie. They tend to be twice as long as a film's average runspan at minimum. It's hard to fit all that in 2-3 hours worth of footage. This is why shows are an appealing alternative for an adaptation, the run-time is longer and they have more clearly defined "chapters" that can let the audience gather info at a controlled pace without feeling overstuffed.
We've seen this angle with shows like Castlevania and Cyberpunk Edgerunners. I know these are animated projects, but the thought-process is the same.
@@schmiddi5768 Perhaps what he meant to say was passion.
And the Mario Movie too.
Borderlands franchise rest of peace 2009-2024
I’m a fan of Roth’s earlier work, but he has certainly dropped off in his more recent work. I completely forgot he remade “Death Wish.”
With the sheer amount of content and story they had to work with, the fact that they destroyed this as badly as they did is truly remarkable.
I would actually recommend revisiting the borderlands telltale game as i feel it’s the best story from the franchise with solid characters and some really funny jokes. I felt it was one of the best games from telltale besides the walking dead and Batman as it uses the game art style effectively and has some really solid integration of previous characters without making new players feel out of the loop
I kinda wished they chose to adapt a story similar to that one rather than the mainline games since the games are more of a video game plot whereas the telltale game is what a story in this world should be
I hate it when I get the Clap
Trap
Be honest: did anyone actually think this movie was going to be anything short of a dumpster fire?
Hey guys if u know what you’re walking into and don’t have any expectations anything can be good. Went to see this w my friends knowing it was bad, and knowing that, we didn’t care, and had a lot of fun. Better to see a bad movie for fun than a mid movie that will frustrate you
Instead of watching this (even ironically), just play the first Tales from the Borderlands. It’s got that chunky older Telltale feel, but the characters are fantastic and the story is simple but effective. I played it before the mainline games and it sucked me right in. A competent Borderlands story exists, but you won’t find it in a theater.
Take a riiiiiiiiiiiiiide 🥲
Borderlands was the first movie I knew would suck based solely on the cast. The producers clearly wanted name recognition to try and draw in a larger audience, not because those actors fit the roles.
Everything about this movie sounded off! Eli Roth is directing, Cate Blanchett is playing a lead, and Kevin Hart is miscast.
So many strange decisions.
That Lilith is a siren is the first thing you learn about her before you even know her *name*. In the character select in BL1 she is billed as the Siren! It makes 0 sense to use "who's the siren?" when Lilith is RIGHT THERE as the core mystery, even if the rest of the parts of this movie didn't suck.
0:55 - I think you meant to say “sink to those depths”
I have heard that the director actually made it more bloody and more like the video game, and studio execs lost their s---. They then made all sorts of cuts and reshots. I am not sure how much of that is true, but it would not surprise me at all.
The question is...What went right?
@@Mattikron Claptrap's _appearance_ (not voice) is pretty much spot on. Moxxi and Marcus have workable casting (not game-accurate, but kinda fit the characters), there is, indeed, a bus, they wear electronic masks at one point that are a nice nod to the in-game cosmetics, and the got the name of the planet ("Pandora") and the shape of the vault symbol (slightly rounded inverted "V") right. And... that's about it. So much wasted potential.
For me, perhaps the biggest "wait, what?" moment was when they said they had to go through "Caustic Caverns" to get to where they were going - in the games, this is a cool, huge, underground map. In the movie, Caustic Caverns was... a standard sewer pipe. Oh, but it has glowy green slime in it, so that totally redeems the courageous location choice (/s).
Literally everything went wrong with this project
bro how tf did they give resident evil to wes anderson and borderlands to a horror director im at a loss of words 🤦♂️
No you dope, that’s the wrong anderson, they gave it to paul anderson, and they chose him because he was the one that directed there will be blood and punch drunk love
Definitely Wes Anderson's nadir. Thank God he righted the ship with his diorama of Fatal Frame starring Jeff Goldblum as a teenage Japanese girl
What probably happened is corporate influence slowly took over, and rotted the product from the inside out to the point where it probably doesn't even look the same. The plot is probably the same, but that's it.
honey come quick, captain midnight is shitting on a trash movie
Hi Cap, I just wanted to say, this is one of the most important films to be critical of. Thanks for making this
Borderlands is a game series that, I think, is mostly entertaining due to it's gameplay - 'Get Gun, Shoot Gun, Get Loot, Repeat'. So it's not at all surprising that a film of the series would fail to get people to go and see it.
Handsome Jack was lightning in a bottle. He's awesome.
The setting can be interesting. There is potential for some interesting stories there, I think.
Exactly. Stripped of the gameplay it's just a hollow patchwork of gaming memes
In his defence, I think the finished product had very little to do with Eli Roth. If they had of just let him put his horror stamp on it, it could have been great. Imagine a competently director R rated movie game adaptation taking a spot after Deadpool starts losing numbers, the studion would have cleaned up
A bad director made a bad movie.
The truck driver who delivered Cate Blanchett's botox must have had a lot of overtime.
I just started playing Borderlands 2 and omg this game is fun. Dunno anything about the series though. Also my character taking second wind and being like " I am not dead yet".
2 is the best in the series. 3 does improve gameplay but the writing takes a nose dive to the point I can't play it without muting all the dialogue.
Glad you're having fun with it. The pre-sequel is really good too, I'm having a lot of fun with the Lawbringer class and spamming pistols.
Everything Captain. Everything went wrong.
Instead of making this movie for actual fans of the franchise, they tried to make it for (what they perceived to be) the larger audience of non-fans. That's what went wrong.
Stop making this a "fans vs non fans" thing.
Even if the movie did all the things fans wanted, it still was mired in so much shit it wouldn't have salvaged it.
Whoever cast this movie clearly had a gilf kink and it made the ads and posters actively unappealing to a mass market.
Clearly, nobody with decision making power had enough commercial sense to force them to cast a few young and conventionally attractive actresses to appeal to mass audiences. It's unsurprising that nobody with power had a clue of what to do with the story or how to save it with the reshoots. The best decision anybody made with this film was to kill the marketing spend to limit their losses.
Nope it's a catastrophic mess😅
It wasn't really a twist that Lilith was the Firehawk, it was a relief that they didn't just make her a regular person for the whole thing.
They just had to make Fury Road but more raunchy. It's that ez
"Just recreate the best action movie in the last 20 years". Ezy
A bunch of hacks remaking George Miller's magnum opus and possibly the best action film of the past 15 years? Yes, EZ. Sure. 🙃
All I can remember was a prerelease clip of Eli Roth excitedly talking about the violence and action scenes, and Randy Pitchford basically shushing him and saying it's a faaamily film.
So I think the blame lies less on Roth with this one...
"Nope, it's even worse" might be the best blink-and-you-miss-it editor's note I've seen.
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I can't stand Kevin Hart. Fall Out and Last of Us make this movie look even worse.
#IBlameAviArad
You stay on message. I respect that.
@@captainmidnight
People need to know
Bro its got 2 hot grandmas in it. How can you hate it?
Are you going to talk about *Batman: Cape Crusader* ? It's been out a week ago.
Not every IP deserves a movie, this was one of them and 3 of the cast members were too old for this shit.
6:10 Tar was made AFTER this movie. Captainmidnight should have researched this point better.
He never claims that one was made before the other.
@@gowzahr Yes he did. I added the timestamp so i wouldn't get the comment you just made.🤷
Weirdly enough, I like Eli Roth but don’t like any of his movies. I like him in interviews, though, and that he’s passionate about movies. He seems like a nice guy. He just never makes movies I’m interested in.
I really wish they got the VA for claptrap in, heck make a 3D animated movie in the style of arcane, I garentee it would've been better. This was designed to flop, and I'm upset as a fan that this happened.