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Ryan introduced me to stoicism which led me to reading meditations and the letters from a stoic. My most recommended books is "THE OBSTACLE IS THE WAY". Ryan, Thank you. :)
It is so amazing that we can have 2 of the greater minds of our generation have a conversation that is freely available for us. You two are master thinkers, writers and strategists. You both took part in introducing me to Stoicism when I was 20. Inspired by Tim, I started learning languages effectively and developed a passion of learning languages in the last 3-4 years and now I am conversational at at least 6 languages. Reading both of your books played a huge part in my development as a human being. Thank you Tim and Ryan.
Well said! I've been going through everything physical in my life for the last 2 years asking myself is it necessary, do I need it, do I truly enjoy it then making a conscious decision to keep or not keep with a strong lean toward minimalism. I've effectively simplified almost every aspect of my life with the exception of a couple more areas. I'm enjoying the freedom that comes with less and now consciously deciding what I add into my life moving forward. All decor in my house is a plant, cool light, essential oil diffusers, art made either by myself or someone else, amazing rocks/stones/crystals and nature items I've found on my hikes and adventures. All other decor has to have purpose or be sentimental in some way. My reduction has truly reduced my stress and helped my flow. I have stepped up my game on my planner/journal combo since my life cleanse and I'm really rocking as of late. I waste very little time and energy on things of non-importance now and it feels FANTASTIC!
Both of them are such good listeners . Great character is revealed by the level of empathy that person has. A good to and fro is a Hallmark of a great conversation. That's why although I love Joe Rogan podcast and guests I don't get the same feel out of them that I get from Tim ferriss Ryan holiday or Sam Harris. When you are in the presence of a person with empathy your soul is at ease and a good interaction follows even if you are not talking much . Hope that made sense.
Agreed. The value of his podcasts stems from the value of some of the ppl he interviews. He is a good interviewer with tricks up his sleeve to steer the conversation in new directions, but being the interviewee, he kinda needs to over complicate.
I hesitate to agree... The path of self improvement can force one to reexamine things previously thought of as simple. The contrast is also true. In essence, Tim has a habit of questioning his initial assumptions (likely due the success this approach has brought him), and it permeates his personality. But I get your point.
I thought there would be more questions from Ryan since this was an "interview." But it was more of a long-form conversation with fewer question-mark prompts and more "Let's see where this path takes us" -- and I just love the quality of insight born from these 2 brilliant minds taking a 2-hour talk. Very worthwhile.
Pets aren't aware enough to be brought down by the nihilistic nature of life. So owning a dog is better in a moral sense. Especially in a crumbling society
Epiphany; I’m a long time listener/reader and generally agree with Tim. The one topic that typically touches my outrage nerve is Tim’s views on marriage. Though that outrage is completely a me issue, Tim’s somewhat negative narrative of marriage trouble me non the less. This interview with Ryan is my ah ha moment. With marriage it is difficult to truly mitigate risk, mostly because you are relying on yourself simultaneously trusting someone else. The downside to divorce is huge and that risk when compared to a self sustaining comfortable life (seemingly Tim’s actual life) leads to seeing marriage as “too risky.” This message doesn’t matter to anyone and isn’t judgement, I’m simply thinking out loud and coming to terms with this new line of thought. Love the interview boys! 1/2 way through Stillness.
This was awesome, felt like a 20 minute conversation (even if it was like 2 hours o:), loved it! Keep the great work Tim, also Ryan is very intelligent, this was a conversation filled with wisdom nuggets. I wish someday to watch Tim and Yuval Noah Harari having a conversation like this.
Always love the conversations. Would have loved to hear Ryan speak a bit more. Also I find myself enjoying the videos more often than the podcasts. Keep them coming!
Honestly I think my most significant takeaway from this starts at 37:00 where they're saying there's no reason to burn the ships just to try something new. I hear so many times from people that say, "It's amazing how often option A works out when you don't leave yourself an option B." I used to think like that, but now it just seems incredibly reckless when there are countless ways to try your something different for a small period of time before completely disregarding everything you currently have on your plate
16:00 Texas politics & Austin discussion. "A lot of the ingredients of Silicon Valley without the sort of smug self-satisfaction that I find so unappetizing." 22:00 It's very easy for life to become an arms race. 39:30 People who really focus at being good at their craft can almost always come back.
This is so weird. I just finished a book last week and was looking for a new one. So i scoured my iPhone notes for book suggestions and saw I had written down ,”Trust Me, I’m Lying”. Now I’m 10 minutes from the end and I see this podcast! Super stoked about it, I see a lot of similarities in the TH-cam/Twitch spheres and it’s crazy how heavily a page view driven model impacts the way news is written. Highly recommend the book. Audio book is about 4 hours at 1.5x speed.
Ryan Moran you hypothesize the outcome to the best of your abilities until you actually set out to do it. Ultimately, it’s having the guts to set out that counts. If you continue trying after failure, you’re bound to have success eventually. I honestly think Tim is regurgitating ideas in the presence of people who are great at what they do, so he’s really banking on trending where the audience curiosity will fall. If he covers enough varied topics, he’s guaranteed success by views and clicks alone.
Btw, love this doing the opposite, turning the tables episode because you have that much you can share ( esp with a clever interviewer like ryan,) much more than even the ama and drunk dialing episodes etc. As Derek sivers would says ....heck yeah. Cheers
interesting to see people like tim that is so well read and has lots of experiences talk about having a dog. He sounds so silly to parents of multiple kids.. he is so amazed his puppy dad experience. try raising twin girls bro
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Great conversation, as always! Can someone tell me why they both are wearing a Lav mic in addition to the podcast mic in front of them? Are they recording their voices locally to be sure?
If you've ever had the experience of recording with one microphone, then finding out the audio is distorted or wasn't even recording.. will make you have a backup. Hope this helps.
Amen to the reading segment! The sunk cost fallacy and the need to read whats trending has seriously wasted hours and hours of time! This-and I totally know it shouldn't feel this way, but it does- almost feels like permission to stop spending time on books I just don't. Of course this goes across the board for things that consume your attention.
The public grossly underestimates the exponential nature of information processing ability, especially coupled with ego gratification. Which directly correlates to one's ability to gauge a proper risk mitigation strategy.
this video is very helpful. 🧗♂️ its showing an accurate and deep understanding; great perceptive. 💡 Muito obrigado for all the insightful information... 🤝
Great podcast gents, I like the idea of just trying out something like podcasting 10 episodes to just try it out as an experiment. Awesome advice within this episode, as always with both of your content. Thank you.
Hi Tim, I think Jack Kruse if you can get him will be an amazing guest. He'll be tough to get, but you mentioned in this episode about things in plain sight that are completely misunderstood. Jack will help you understand this stuff.. it's health related, and very valuable.
Come on Tim! If you would have said “Lose your shit... No pun intended” it could have the greatest one liner in podcast history. Always great Tim. Always Love
1:23:00 Love this point - always been struck by "innovations" that involve longstanding, existing technologies. Who finally thought to pitch a tent using clips to poles vs. the sleeves we struggled with for years? Clips had been around for centuries and even require less manufacturing than sleeves #nobrainer
Tim, it is simple. Your point in life is to progress and get better in all of your endeavors. It is evolution. Two people, master and the newbie carve tables. Master stopped progressing and hit a plateau in his craft. He no longer tries to create a better table. Newbie tries better and progresses because he wants to do better and if he keeps getting better he will surpass the best master. Focus is key. Do what you want but do it better every time.
tim is best always find his interviews effective...wanna see more of them. But hats off to RYAN as he sets the example by himself that how to listen . He did a perfect job. And thats stocism
tim is best speaker on selfimprovement i m amazed how precisely he talks point to point without even wasting a single word . its best listen to him to learn thinking in a structured way "LIFE PUNISHES VAGUE WISHES AND REWARDS SPECIFICS. " tim ferriss
San Francisco feels like an echo chamber for sure. As one who studied to be an industrial designer, I enjoyed the middle segment on product design. There are wheels for luggage? No...
Ryan's comment about sunk cost fallacy when trying to finish a book where he used David Foster Wallace as an example where you keep going just to prove you could do it hit too close to home: I have been trying to get through Infinite Jest for more than a year now (pg 765 now), and probably sunk cost is a significant part of why I keep going even though reading it makes me want to microwave my own head. Guess I'm not smart enough for DFW
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Ryan introduced me to stoicism which led me to reading meditations and the letters from a stoic. My most recommended books is "THE OBSTACLE IS THE WAY".
Ryan, Thank you. :)
you are welcome ..Nikhil the reader
THATS HIS BOOK.......FFS WHAT AN ASSHOLE
It is so amazing that we can have 2 of the greater minds of our generation have a conversation that is freely available for us.
You two are master thinkers, writers and strategists. You both took part in introducing me to Stoicism when I was 20. Inspired by Tim, I started learning languages effectively and developed a passion of learning languages in the last 3-4 years and now I am conversational at at least 6 languages.
Reading both of your books played a huge part in my development as a human being.
Thank you Tim and Ryan.
The two people that got me into stoicism. Can't thank you enough!
Well said! I've been going through everything physical in my life for the last 2 years asking myself is it necessary, do I need it, do I truly enjoy it then making a conscious decision to keep or not keep with a strong lean toward minimalism. I've effectively simplified almost every aspect of my life with the exception of a couple more areas. I'm enjoying the freedom that comes with less and now consciously deciding what I add into my life moving forward. All decor in my house is a plant, cool light, essential oil diffusers, art made either by myself or someone else, amazing rocks/stones/crystals and nature items I've found on my hikes and adventures. All other decor has to have purpose or be sentimental in some way. My reduction has truly reduced my stress and helped my flow. I have stepped up my game on my planner/journal combo since my life cleanse and I'm really rocking as of late. I waste very little time and energy on things of non-importance now and it feels FANTASTIC!
Ahhh, can’t skip hearing these 2 favorites together.
Matt Loberstein truly
Love how u always hav clear step by step reasons as answers, Tim. Ryan & Robert greene is a podcast episode I'm looking forward to in the near future
Both of them are such good listeners . Great character is revealed by the level of empathy that person has. A good to and fro is a Hallmark of a great conversation. That's why although I love Joe Rogan podcast and guests I don't get the same feel out of them that I get from Tim ferriss Ryan holiday or Sam Harris. When you are in the presence of a person with empathy your soul is at ease and a good interaction follows even if you are not talking much . Hope that made sense.
Two of my favorite takeaways in the final 3 minutes:
1. Getting to the bottom of it > Staying on top of it
2. Truth > trivia
Thanks a ton guys! 🙏🏆🌎
It sometimes seems that Tim over complicates simple things all while trying to figure out a way to make them simpler
Excellent comment. It was helpful to read. I definitely feel Tim's pain. I catch myself doing the same thing.
Agreed. The value of his podcasts stems from the value of some of the ppl he interviews. He is a good interviewer with tricks up his sleeve to steer the conversation in new directions, but being the interviewee, he kinda needs to over complicate.
I hesitate to agree... The path of self improvement can force one to reexamine things previously thought of as simple. The contrast is also true. In essence, Tim has a habit of questioning his initial assumptions (likely due the success this approach has brought him), and it permeates his personality. But I get your point.
Part of the fun of intellectual pursuits...
And don’t forget his other books, perennial seller, ego is the enemy. Haven’t read his non self improvement stuff yet. But heard its good.
I love Tim and Ryan, Modern stoics. Both have had so much positive effect on how I look at things.
I thought there would be more questions from Ryan since this was an "interview." But it was more of a long-form conversation with fewer question-mark prompts and more "Let's see where this path takes us" -- and I just love the quality of insight born from these 2 brilliant minds taking a 2-hour talk. Very worthwhile.
There is so much value in this interview. Could have listened for hours. Thanks Tim and Ryan!
Love the take of ''Just because you're good at something, doens't mean you should do for the rest of your life''. That's deep.
Good to see these 2 back together. Always amazing insights and such great knowledge into Stoic philosophy
What I appreciate about Ryan is that he uses "yah" and "sure" as valid responses just as much as I do...
The mono conversation was an amazing and simple point that just expanded my perspective, thank you.
This conversation made me think about how in the 21st century people replace having children with pets.
Along with hedonistic pursuits and finding meaning in odd places.
Pets aren't aware enough to be brought down by the nihilistic nature of life. So owning a dog is better in a moral sense. Especially in a crumbling society
So true about having kids so many parents act like the kids decided to come into their lives.
Super generous and real, as always. Beautiful demonstration of thought. Thank You.
Two of my favorite people on Earth
Epiphany; I’m a long time listener/reader and generally agree with Tim. The one topic that typically touches my outrage nerve is Tim’s views on marriage. Though that outrage is completely a me issue, Tim’s somewhat negative narrative of marriage trouble me non the less. This interview with Ryan is my ah ha moment. With marriage it is difficult to truly mitigate risk, mostly because you are relying on yourself simultaneously trusting someone else. The downside to divorce is huge and that risk when compared to a self sustaining comfortable life (seemingly Tim’s actual life) leads to seeing marriage as “too risky.” This message doesn’t matter to anyone and isn’t judgement, I’m simply thinking out loud and coming to terms with this new line of thought. Love the interview boys! 1/2 way through Stillness.
This was awesome, felt like a 20 minute conversation (even if it was like 2 hours o:), loved it! Keep the great work Tim, also Ryan is very intelligent, this was a conversation filled with wisdom nuggets. I wish someday to watch Tim and Yuval Noah Harari having a conversation like this.
Love to hear about Ryan's views on stoicism.
Terrific episode. It clarified a lot of personal issues and sure did change my opinion of both of you. For the better, of course.
Great conversation. I like the idea of reading valuable books instead of struggling to finish boring books.
Love Tim Ferris' work and I also love this concept of equanimity.
Such a good point about burning the ships and leaping into the unknown.
Always love the conversations. Would have loved to hear Ryan speak a bit more. Also I find myself enjoying the videos more often than the podcasts. Keep them coming!
I though this was Tim on Ryan’s podcast. Needless to say, it was amazing
Love the video format. Took me a while to know that these exist outside of audio only.
Honestly I think my most significant takeaway from this starts at 37:00 where they're saying there's no reason to burn the ships just to try something new. I hear so many times from people that say, "It's amazing how often option A works out when you don't leave yourself an option B." I used to think like that, but now it just seems incredibly reckless when there are countless ways to try your something different for a small period of time before completely disregarding everything you currently have on your plate
My pups have been the greatest teachers of Extreme Ownership!
Victor Chan GOOD
16:00 Texas politics & Austin discussion. "A lot of the ingredients of Silicon Valley without the sort of smug self-satisfaction that I find so unappetizing."
22:00 It's very easy for life to become an arms race.
39:30 People who really focus at being good at their craft can almost always come back.
This is so weird. I just finished a book last week and was looking for a new one. So i scoured my iPhone notes for book suggestions and saw I had written down ,”Trust Me, I’m Lying”.
Now I’m 10 minutes from the end and I see this podcast! Super stoked about it, I see a lot of similarities in the TH-cam/Twitch spheres and it’s crazy how heavily a page view driven model impacts the way news is written.
Highly recommend the book. Audio book is about 4 hours at 1.5x speed.
Thanks Tim & Ryan! Tim: How do you determine if a tested lifestyle change is a pass or fail? What do you pay attention to? How often do you pivot?
Ryan Moran you hypothesize the outcome to the best of your abilities until you actually set out to do it. Ultimately, it’s having the guts to set out that counts. If you continue trying after failure, you’re bound to have success eventually. I honestly think Tim is regurgitating ideas in the presence of people who are great at what they do, so he’s really banking on trending where the audience curiosity will fall. If he covers enough varied topics, he’s guaranteed success by views and clicks alone.
Brian Johnson brought me into Stoicism. It totally changed my life.
My two favourite people. Ryan is wise beyond his years!
That was awesome. These two guys never disappointed.
Two of the greatest stoic thinkers of modern-day in one table.
My biggest influence in self-improvements, the dream podcast episode!
This is going to be pure gold...👍🏼👏🏻🙏🏻
Wow! Listening to Stillness is the key, since your interview with the minimalist. How relevant is your book today!
Btw, love this doing the opposite, turning the tables episode because you have that much you can share ( esp with a clever interviewer like ryan,) much more than even the ama and drunk dialing episodes etc. As Derek sivers would says ....heck yeah. Cheers
interesting to see people like tim that is so well read and has lots of experiences talk about having a dog. He sounds so silly to parents of multiple kids.. he is so amazed his puppy dad experience. try raising twin girls bro
Great conversation, as always!
Can someone tell me why they both are wearing a Lav mic in addition to the podcast mic in front of them? Are they recording their voices locally to be sure?
If you've ever had the experience of recording with one microphone, then finding out the audio is distorted or wasn't even recording.. will make you have a backup. Hope this helps.
Amen to the reading segment! The sunk cost fallacy and the need to read whats trending has seriously wasted hours and hours of time! This-and I totally know it shouldn't feel this way, but it does- almost feels like permission to stop spending time on books I just don't. Of course this goes across the board for things that consume your attention.
Awesome choice. Saved and hope this follows up on Cal Fusman interview with you
The public grossly underestimates the exponential nature of information processing ability, especially coupled with ego gratification. Which directly correlates to one's ability to gauge a proper risk mitigation strategy.
One of the best episodes of tim's podcast
this video is very helpful. 🧗♂️
its showing an accurate and deep understanding; great perceptive. 💡
Muito obrigado for all the insightful information... 🤝
Living in this moment. Two epic humans.
Take a shot every time tim says self absorption
thx for being vulnerable about your depression Tim! 🏋️🏋️
Great podcast gents, I like the idea of just trying out something like podcasting 10 episodes to just try it out as an experiment. Awesome advice within this episode, as always with both of your content. Thank you.
Hi Tim, I think Jack Kruse if you can get him will be an amazing guest. He'll be tough to get, but you mentioned in this episode about things in plain sight that are completely misunderstood. Jack will help you understand this stuff.. it's health related, and very valuable.
Is it just me or the middle window is uneven?
Awesome interview,as always!
This way very helpful. Thank You!
Outstanding Other Than Difference Blog; Is Something Along With Education!
What gear does he use? The image is so clear and simple. 3 cameras. Excellent!
Great interview :) agree completely about the impact of taking in trivia vs other types of information
I really needed to hear this. Perfect timing. Thank you gentlemen
Come on Tim! If you would have said “Lose your shit... No pun intended” it could have the greatest one liner in podcast history. Always great Tim. Always Love
1:23:25 "wheels on luggage. For God's sake, how long did that take? It's sitting there right in PLANE sight"
1:23:00 Love this point - always been struck by "innovations" that involve longstanding, existing technologies. Who finally thought to pitch a tent using clips to poles vs. the sleeves we struggled with for years? Clips had been around for centuries and even require less manufacturing than sleeves #nobrainer
Nice Jean jacket guy
Tim, it is simple. Your point in life is to progress and get better in all of your endeavors. It is evolution. Two people, master and the newbie carve tables. Master stopped progressing and hit a plateau in his craft. He no longer tries to create a better table. Newbie tries better and progresses because he wants to do better and if he keeps getting better he will surpass the best master. Focus is key. Do what you want but do it better every time.
It feels like I’ve heard this interview already 😎
really interested on what tim had to say about death
Purchased a few of Ryan's books after the episode where he read a few excerpts from "The Obstacle is The Way".
Very grateful. Thanks Tim.
Tim flowin' like a cool breeze. Nice.
tim is best always find his interviews effective...wanna see more of them.
But hats off to RYAN as he sets the example by himself that how to listen . He did a perfect job. And thats stocism
What is the podcast set up you have here? Mics ect thank you!
Love this format
This is a fantastic one thanks Tim & Ryan
Love all of Ryan's content!
tim is best speaker on selfimprovement i m amazed how precisely he talks point to point without even wasting a single word . its best listen to him to learn thinking in a structured way
"LIFE PUNISHES VAGUE WISHES AND REWARDS SPECIFICS. " tim ferriss
San Francisco feels like an echo chamber for sure. As one who studied to be an industrial designer, I enjoyed the middle segment on product design. There are wheels for luggage? No...
Two of my boys...
Ryan's comment about sunk cost fallacy when trying to finish a book where he used David Foster Wallace as an example where you keep going just to prove you could do it hit too close to home: I have been trying to get through Infinite Jest for more than a year now (pg 765 now), and probably sunk cost is a significant part of why I keep going even though reading it makes me want to microwave my own head. Guess I'm not smart enough for DFW
Why this video only has 84k views? One of my favorite conversations.
Minute 35:00 re Sir Richard Branson The aircraft builder was Boeing. It’s a great story in Brandon’s autobiography, Losing My Virginity. Recommended
Ryan ‘yeah sure yeah’ Holiday
What parts of the body are involved with cramping and excruciating pain of the whole thigh from the knee to the hip?
we are still waiting for 4hour parent
Very enjoyable and informative interview
Love from India 🇮🇳
Finally !!!
Ryan will stare you down
Tim, my man. i do understand everything u say, but most things u can say much simpler and quicker.
I like this one
What were they saying about Dave Schapelle?
That is my philosophy about having kids.
Hey look, it's Gareth Bale!
Tim Ferriss, the type of guy to call his dog "MDMA-assisted psychotherapy".
What's this? Like to hear what for example the guest got to say, but the host keeps talking? Am reading now the daily stoic by the way
Hi Tim 😊
Great interview! Love both insights. Wondering if Tim is a 3 in the enneagram.
A city needs more than one socio economic hierarchy or it's boring. Agreed.
54:48 it’s not banana bread at work kind of hell yes