Since I didn't explicitly explain it in the video, I only did a run with no tech/cats to show that it would work even if you don't have high tech or strong cats. Please do not turn off your fleet tech and not use cats during your clears.
I was struggling on 15-4 but this fleet was a game changer for me. I was able to use it to make the zone safe and then farm it on auto. Today I got Houston II so I've come back to write this message and subscribe to his channel. My gear is worse than his and I used the F4U as well as flapjacks, but I did use all the same ships. Good hunting, all.
Funnily enough, I found that the most reliable way to make your mob fleet survive the auto-search was by... bringing Golden Hind. No joke, Golden Hind is top tier in Ch15 auto search mobs (and Ch14 too) in my humble opinion. By bringing her instead of someone else, you might miss on a good chunk of damage output, but it's never an issue until the Out Of Ammo fight. And thanks to the Round Shot's +1 ammo, you have NO Out Of Ammo fight in 15-4! (and only one instead of 2 in 14-4) It's the only way I found to make a fleet with a 100% survival rate. All of my other comps would have the main fleet sinking on the last fight from time to time. Assuming that the rest of the fleet have enough AA, Golden Hind have no problem surviving in the middle position (with Round Shot, Sail and Fruit rations) And if you replace the Fruits with one of the collab auxiliary that gives 55 AA, she can even off-tank without any issues. I haven't tried Adventure Galley, but she should probably work as well.
Can confirm this works. (CN List also has her at A and Galley at B for this reason) I think a lot of people fear she'll hold the Vanguard too much back generally, but if Jimmy is adding room for a leveling Vanguard, she should definitely be fine.
Is there any replacment for Laffey II ? I was able to do it without Laffey II with help of Yat Sen , Ning Hai and Sandy vanguard but it having troubles with running into BB fleets on auto so doing it semi mannual
Laffey is the best tank but she doesn't really help for battleship nodes, rather carriers and escorts. For battleship nodes you need more damage overall to kill the enemies fast before they start firing
the pain of having started 6 months ago and having missed many important UR ships. Is there a calendar or estimation for their reruns? (managed to get amagi cv and musashi so far from the limited UR baners i have played in)
UR ships rerun about 1.5-2 years after their initial release give or take. This year should have Bismarck Zwei, Unzen, and Guam all rerun with Yorktown 2 coming back in the next couple weeks
i just brute forced the 15-4. Mob fleet was almost the same but i was runing Guam in place of unzen. Boss fleet wasnt optimal clears took over 1 minute but it was made to survive lethal state - Kersarge , Yorktown2, Volga/Brest , Jean, Plymouth
So far I'm using the tips to iterate my setup towards victory. I'm 36% on the chapter meaning I won 3 times out of many tries sadly. All 3 succesfull runs were done where I used my "boss fleet" to clear both air support fleets and then the second boss while the "mob fleet" was there to clear everything else. But it really feels like it's just a fluke than actually viable strat. I can also manage a sub 1 minute clear with boss-fleet on the first boss but my issue is that whatever I do, the boss fleet vanguard dies on the last boss. Somehow I have to reinforce them with timing, but then again sometimes the timing comes out really good the first round. Alternative would be to have the main fleet being a babysitter for the vanguard who brings most of the dmg, as they are not as reliant on timing.
@@JimmyAL Yeah, I realized "Auto Search" here means after 100% farm. I mean it's kinda fun to explore what the game mechanics can cook up btw, it's just seems highly random at times, like same fleet same encounter, yet the difference can be anywhere between "vanguard above 85%" to "all vanguard in red" Either way right now I'm experimenting with high dmg vanguard with support main
Musashi is the only ship with the skill which covers for your other two main fleet ships, so there isn't a real substitute for her. Depending on how stacked your fleet tech/cats are, you could potentially get by with any of the other rainbow BBs except for maybe UvH, but there's nothing really stopping the BC enemies from shelling down one of your carriers without Musashi.
@@JimmyAL I would think Musashi is a "nice to have" ship for 15, but not a hard requirement. Kinda like Guam/LaffeyII. They make 15 much easier, but chapter is still doable without.
It *might* be doable, but honestl by about Chapter 12, should be moving away from 'faction' fleets. They are more detrimental than they are beneficial. You can still probably do a single fleet of all RN, With Uni, Vanguard, Implacable with Drake, Plymouth and Jervis/Scylla
@@junkiexl86well you see, i am broke, thus without implacable, and vanguard, nor do i have jervis/scylla. also i will never stop playing factions as that is my entire purpose when playing the game. honestly, im just here to see the good chara designs. specifically Hood.
Weird. The game itself doesn't communicate that well then. Because the stats are identical. Only it has a +3% OpSi bonus. Only auxiliary equipment are shown to get increased stats.
Missing Musashi, will have to fiddle around with making Royal Oak / Perseus / Unicorn work... thanks for the guidance for when I get to W15 in a couple weeks!
I still having hard time cleating it for the first time. I use Guam-Jarvis-Shimanto + Mushashi-Unicorn-Aquila and yet Musashi always run out of HP after the first boss battle I used flapjack on every single fighter slot and Wyvern on every single torpedo bomber slot. Running Illustrous + her U variant + Implacable. Any tips to Improve?
Read Jervis' skills, she wants 3+ HMS and also wants to be in the tank position with only DD/CL beside her. Should probably switch her out with another DD for ASW if you're running her in the middle, although it's probably not enough to clear from where you're getting stumped, but I can't really tell what exactly is going wrong
I kinda want to see them put more mechanics that block off the "meta/bis" weapon choices, using a "sub-par" BB gun to circumvent the smokescreen makes it worthwhile to actually make use of more than just rainbow guns.
No it's absolutely not. The skill is if the ship has Eagle Union gear OR weapons. Meaning if one of the 5 slot has an eagle union gear you are good. In his build he already has the eagle union manjuu item equipped so his build is good.
Now can you do these auto clears without these URs? If new players need these ships like Musashi, BisZwei, Guam and Laff2 to clear and auto chapter 15, then it'll took them about 2 years to have all of them because they need to wait for rerun.
He’s doing this with almost no +13 equipments, no cats, no fleet tech, and is clearing comfortably. If you want to replicate it with no URs, simply work on the aforementioned bonuses to your fleet and you won’t need these URs. Not to mention the continued power creep will almost make sure newer players have replacements that might be about the same or even better. Quite frankly, by the time one reaches world 15 and wants to auto, they should have done their own research, or otherwise just manual until Houston 2 drops.
@@earlc6793 >He’s doing this with almost no +13 equipments, no cats, no fleet tech, and is clearing comfortably I mean if you have BisZwei and Musashi, you basically can clear everything with almost no effort compared to let's say, a fully invested and high enough fleet tech Hood or Nelson retrofit with +13 gears. Even NJ is struggling to clear Chapter 15 compared to Bismarck and Musashi. >Not to mention the continued power creep will almost make sure newer players have replacements that might be about the same or even better Nah I doubt it. Bismarck Zwei is too busted to get powercreeped. Highest DPS among all battleships and has a black hole that sucks everyone and kills everything like a no brainer. Future BBs won't get on her level and will not be able to offer similar utility that is as good or better than Zwei.
all i hear is skill issue. you dont need them. i didn't when i cleared it and i cleared it in lethal. think of other ways and if you cant think of other ways, then do some research like jimmy mentioned in the first seconds of the video
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Since I didn't explicitly explain it in the video, I only did a run with no tech/cats to show that it would work even if you don't have high tech or strong cats. Please do not turn off your fleet tech and not use cats during your clears.
I was struggling on 15-4 but this fleet was a game changer for me. I was able to use it to make the zone safe and then farm it on auto. Today I got Houston II so I've come back to write this message and subscribe to his channel. My gear is worse than his and I used the F4U as well as flapjacks, but I did use all the same ships. Good hunting, all.
Funnily enough, I found that the most reliable way to make your mob fleet survive the auto-search was by... bringing Golden Hind.
No joke, Golden Hind is top tier in Ch15 auto search mobs (and Ch14 too) in my humble opinion.
By bringing her instead of someone else, you might miss on a good chunk of damage output, but it's never an issue until the Out Of Ammo fight.
And thanks to the Round Shot's +1 ammo, you have NO Out Of Ammo fight in 15-4! (and only one instead of 2 in 14-4)
It's the only way I found to make a fleet with a 100% survival rate. All of my other comps would have the main fleet sinking on the last fight from time to time.
Assuming that the rest of the fleet have enough AA, Golden Hind have no problem surviving in the middle position (with Round Shot, Sail and Fruit rations)
And if you replace the Fruits with one of the collab auxiliary that gives 55 AA, she can even off-tank without any issues.
I haven't tried Adventure Galley, but she should probably work as well.
haven't tried her yet but if she can survive then it's definitely a great idea
Can confirm this works. (CN List also has her at A and Galley at B for this reason)
I think a lot of people fear she'll hold the Vanguard too much back generally, but if Jimmy is adding room for a leveling Vanguard, she should definitely be fine.
this makes me wonder how Sao Martin would do in stage 15.. which might sound like a troll at 1st, because she gets no AA guns..@@JimmyAL
Thanks for the detailed guide! Haven't started W15 yet, but I'll get to crafting some more flapjacks (only had 4) and see what I can do.
Should i use Perseus as sub/replacement for unicorn?
Just get unicorn perseus sucks late game with her slow reload and efficiencies. Your fleet takes more damage because everything dies slower
i got houston 2 with this comp, ur the GOAT
In the 10 months since this video was posted, is there anyone you'd change for some of the newer SSRs/URs?
Any replacement for bismark?
Is there any replacment for Laffey II ? I was able to do it without Laffey II with help of Yat Sen , Ning Hai and Sandy vanguard but it having troubles with running into BB fleets on auto so doing it semi mannual
Laffey is the best tank but she doesn't really help for battleship nodes, rather carriers and escorts. For battleship nodes you need more damage overall to kill the enemies fast before they start firing
it seems implacable can no longer equip 2 fighters. would it be better to sub her for another royal navy ship like albion or just keep implacable.
she can equip 2 fighters
@@JimmyAL I figured it out. She was at 106 so i did not check if she was MLB (she was at 5) it is working now I'm dumb. thanks
the pain of having started 6 months ago and having missed many important UR ships. Is there a calendar or estimation for their reruns? (managed to get amagi cv and musashi so far from the limited UR baners i have played in)
UR ships rerun about 1.5-2 years after their initial release give or take. This year should have Bismarck Zwei, Unzen, and Guam all rerun with Yorktown 2 coming back in the next couple weeks
i just brute forced the 15-4. Mob fleet was almost the same but i was runing Guam in place of unzen. Boss fleet wasnt optimal clears took over 1 minute but it was made to survive lethal state - Kersarge , Yorktown2, Volga/Brest , Jean, Plymouth
literally the only ship i'm missing from this comp is BisZwei, what other rainbow BB can you use to replace her?
I use Guam on Mob, do you have any alternative for Vanguard on boss fleet?
yat sen + harbin
@@JimmyAL and the third one?
any good ship should work
yat sen or Laffey are good replacements for Guam, but Yat Sen needs another ship to proc her skill hence Harbin
So far I'm using the tips to iterate my setup towards victory. I'm 36% on the chapter meaning I won 3 times out of many tries sadly. All 3 succesfull runs were done where I used my "boss fleet" to clear both air support fleets and then the second boss while the "mob fleet" was there to clear everything else. But it really feels like it's just a fluke than actually viable strat.
I can also manage a sub 1 minute clear with boss-fleet on the first boss but my issue is that whatever I do, the boss fleet vanguard dies on the last boss.
Somehow I have to reinforce them with timing, but then again sometimes the timing comes out really good the first round. Alternative would be to have the main fleet being a babysitter for the vanguard who brings most of the dmg, as they are not as reliant on timing.
this setup is not for lethal
@@JimmyAL Yeah, I realized "Auto Search" here means after 100% farm. I mean it's kinda fun to explore what the game mechanics can cook up btw, it's just seems highly random at times, like same fleet same encounter, yet the difference can be anywhere between "vanguard above 85%" to "all vanguard in red"
Either way right now I'm experimenting with high dmg vanguard with support main
what can I use to replace musashi? (hope i didnt miss u say that)
Musashi is the only ship with the skill which covers for your other two main fleet ships, so there isn't a real substitute for her. Depending on how stacked your fleet tech/cats are, you could potentially get by with any of the other rainbow BBs except for maybe UvH, but there's nothing really stopping the BC enemies from shelling down one of your carriers without Musashi.
@@JimmyAL I would think Musashi is a "nice to have" ship for 15, but not a hard requirement. Kinda like Guam/LaffeyII. They make 15 much easier, but chapter is still doable without.
Can Pancakes be substituted for f7fs and sea hornets because they have the same armament? Or am I missing something crucial
Flight speed slower so it stays on screen longer for AA, also the intercept CD is lower by a lot
@@JimmyAL Noted, thanks for the reply. Great video btw
How can i do this with only royal navy ships?
It *might* be doable, but honestl by about Chapter 12, should be moving away from 'faction' fleets. They are more detrimental than they are beneficial. You can still probably do a single fleet of all RN, With Uni, Vanguard, Implacable with Drake, Plymouth and Jervis/Scylla
@@junkiexl86well you see, i am broke, thus without implacable, and vanguard, nor do i have jervis/scylla. also i will never stop playing factions as that is my entire purpose when playing the game. honestly, im just here to see the good chara designs. specifically Hood.
Oh, so the OpSi bonus from +13 equipment works in world 15?
no
@@JimmyAL Ohh okay, so you were just making a joke talking about +13 planes being better? I guess you could say it flew right over my head! =D
@@wolfgangspiper uh no, +13 planes deal 18% more damage with their AA guns and bombs than +10 ones everywhere
Weird. The game itself doesn't communicate that well then. Because the stats are identical. Only it has a +3% OpSi bonus. Only auxiliary equipment are shown to get increased stats.
@@wolfgangspiper Yea I don't know why it doesn't show. Check the wiki but it should be 4/11/18% for +11/12/13
What? ACE doesn't affect CVLs?
it says in the description
What can i use instead of Hindenburg?
probably any high damage vanguard. mogador if you have her maybe
its nice to have more fleets and info to get done ch15 smoother
Missing Musashi, will have to fiddle around with making Royal Oak / Perseus / Unicorn work... thanks for the guidance for when I get to W15 in a couple weeks!
I still having hard time cleating it for the first time.
I use Guam-Jarvis-Shimanto + Mushashi-Unicorn-Aquila and yet Musashi always run out of HP after the first boss battle
I used flapjack on every single fighter slot and Wyvern on every single torpedo bomber slot.
Running Illustrous + her U variant + Implacable.
Any tips to Improve?
Read Jervis' skills, she wants 3+ HMS and also wants to be in the tank position with only DD/CL beside her. Should probably switch her out with another DD for ASW if you're running her in the middle, although it's probably not enough to clear from where you're getting stumped, but I can't really tell what exactly is going wrong
@@JimmyAL Oh well.
I'm on progress for Raising Hamman II to level 125.
Hope she'll work
I kinda want to see them put more mechanics that block off the "meta/bis" weapon choices, using a "sub-par" BB gun to circumvent the smokescreen makes it worthwhile to actually make use of more than just rainbow guns.
You should use a twin127mm gun on Laffy II for her Eagle requirement. It's BIS.
No it's absolutely not. The skill is if the ship has Eagle Union gear OR weapons. Meaning if one of the 5 slot has an eagle union gear you are good. In his build he already has the eagle union manjuu item equipped so his build is good.
Shimmy 😳
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Now can you do these auto clears without these URs?
If new players need these ships like Musashi, BisZwei, Guam and Laff2 to clear and auto chapter 15, then it'll took them about 2 years to have all of them because they need to wait for rerun.
He’s doing this with almost no +13 equipments, no cats, no fleet tech, and is clearing comfortably. If you want to replicate it with no URs, simply work on the aforementioned bonuses to your fleet and you won’t need these URs. Not to mention the continued power creep will almost make sure newer players have replacements that might be about the same or even better. Quite frankly, by the time one reaches world 15 and wants to auto, they should have done their own research, or otherwise just manual until Houston 2 drops.
@@earlc6793
>He’s doing this with almost no +13 equipments, no cats, no fleet tech, and is clearing comfortably
I mean if you have BisZwei and Musashi, you basically can clear everything with almost no effort compared to let's say, a fully invested and high enough fleet tech Hood or Nelson retrofit with +13 gears. Even NJ is struggling to clear Chapter 15 compared to Bismarck and Musashi.
>Not to mention the continued power creep will almost make sure newer players have replacements that might be about the same or even better
Nah I doubt it. Bismarck Zwei is too busted to get powercreeped. Highest DPS among all battleships and has a black hole that sucks everyone and kills everything like a no brainer. Future BBs won't get on her level and will not be able to offer similar utility that is as good or better than Zwei.
@@yousefseed1874 lmao
all i hear is skill issue.
you dont need them. i didn't when i cleared it and i cleared it in lethal. think of other ways
and if you cant think of other ways, then do some research like jimmy mentioned in the first seconds of the video
@@yousefseed1874 What, are you asking if this Map can be cleared without those ships you mentioned or you're just promoting Bismarck Zwei lol