Into Darkness: Saturnalia, Yule, Modranicht | Origins & Evolution of Christmas
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- The period of time from late December to early January was an important spiritual cosmic event to ancient cultures. Pagan midwinter/ winter solstice festivals directly shaped our Christmas and New Year's holidays. This video traces the history from the earliest origins to modern day, exploring festivals like the Roman Saturnalia, Norse Yule, and Anglo-Saxon Modraniht. We consider the true meaning of the season, discussing the major religious themes and historical events that led us to the contemporary Christmas. These festivals involved both dark and light mythological concepts, as this was the time of both the death and rebirth of the sun god during the winter solstice. This astrological cycle is embodied in legends like the Wild Hunt, and the the Golden Age of Cronus.
In the second half of the video, we will cover the syncretization of pagan feasts and Christianity, beginning in the medieval period where we see traditions like mumming and the Lord of Misrule, through the early modern period when the Protestant Reformation resulted in a veritable war on Christmas.
Recommended Reading:
“Stations of The Sun” by Ronald Hutton
00:00 - Intro
06:14 - Saturnalia
14:49 - British Isles Winter Solstice Observances
17:37 - Yule
20:23 - Supernatural Threats/ The Wild Hunt
26:49 - Christmas Origins/ Syncretism
32:10 - Medieval Christmas Festival
35:35 - Pagan Christmas Symbols
39:29 - The War on Christmas
43:15 - The Reinvention of Christmas
46:22 - Santa Claus Origin
48:40 - Saturn Occult Symbolism
52:35 - Conclusion
53:57 - Outro
#folklore #occult #ancientphilosophy
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What a lovely video! A good distillation of our Winter Holiday traditions that I'm sure will send people to learn more. Thank you so much for this. I'm glad it turned up in my recommendations.
"The winter solstice symbolized the gates of heaven at which the higher nature repeatedly succumbs to the lower, preventing entry, highlighting the apparent futility of the great work within the material world" 🥺😭
Really amazing video, I love the way you brought everything together, new sub! ♥️
Honored and Humbled to have the Winter Solstice as my birthday.
I just found your channel and promptly subscribed.
Damn I wish my birthday lasted 12 days
Another excellent video!
Many thanks!
This video is beautifully done and accurately explained .
Very well done! Thank you for a very comprehensive video on a very controversial and vast subject. This warrants repeat viewing!
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Well done with the selection of pictures accompanying the video.
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Wow... that was glorious. Thank you!! This is one for the books!!
Thank you! You’re quite welcome
Great video to watch curled up with a cup of tea! Thank you
Enjoyed every moment of this. Thank you!
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Thank you for a comprehensive overview of Midwinter Festivals. So well done!
Great video! Thank you for the hard work and research you do each topic! I am an immediate fan!
Glad you’re here! Thank you so much for the shoutout!
Remarkable video best I've seen loved all the information thanku merry yule X
Such a great video, packed with tons of interesting facts. Can’t wait to see more content from your channel! You have a new subscriber :)
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Great video- I love how you dig to depth on your topics
Hi! Love your stuff. Sources?
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Thanks for this. It is important to us.
This was really good and full of information. It's also very thought provoking - at least in my opinion anyway. 😄 I am quite curious about the history of all of the other holidays as well. Isn't it curious how they actually banned Christmas for a time?! I'm not sure but, it just seems contradictory somehow... 🤔In any case, it just goes to show that even holidays are subject to the minds and politics of the times. You have such a wonderful channel. I really enjoy all of your videos, with its variety of topics.
I absolutely love the snow and winter. ❄☃ It's such a beautiful time of year. Here's wishing you a beautiful season and best wishes for the coming new year. May the sun shine bright upon your channel. 🌞
It is curious, though not altogether unexpected from Protestants. I think they were correct in their assessment of Christmas. It’s good evidence that it was indeed pagan.
Very true. It still is subject to that today. Holidays are important, so it makes sense that they would be targeted by power structures.
It is beautiful, though the cold does get to me a little 😅. Happy holidays to you as well, and thank you so much for your support. Always great to hear from you!
This was in my recommendeds, see you started off in March, and the content looks interesting.
Very good including the freemason stuff. Sun god death and rebirth. Primordial darkness.
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Great video! ❤
Thank you 🙏
Great presentation and scholarly documentary! Just subbed! We need more channel’s like this-this is the first I’ve seen of your works but I’m looking forwards to watching more of your presentations! I’ve been following Asha Logos for a while and you seem to be on the same wavelength as he is, intent on helping us find our way back to our indigenous niche, etc; exposing the grassroots organic authentic traditions of the European peoples and peeling away the deceptive amalgamations and distortions that were grafted onto them in order to derail their true teachings and mislead or control us by outside invasive groups etc.
Thomas Sheridan has a few amazing interviews and documentaries about this in regards to Christianity and our Northern and Western Pagan traditions. John Lamb Lash is another who has many interviews and lectures available which also profoundly expose the true nature of our heritage which has been-for the most part-completely destroyed, maliciously and malevolently. His book “Not In His Image” is an absolutely mind-opening read as well.
More and more of our peoples are piecing our past together and rediscovering, rebuilding our path back home🐉
God Jól & belated happy Winter Solstice!🍻
Awesome comment. I think this is very important and if I can help people rediscover our roots in whatever small way then that means the world to me.
I’m a fan of Sheridan. He was the one who got me into studying paganism. Not familiar with the others but I’ll be sure to check them out. Thanks a lot and happy solstice to you also!
@@TheHiddenPassage8 Thank you, brother🍻 I completely feel the same way👍🏻
Awesome to hear Sheridan was such an impactful individual for you-I’ve noticed most of his work drifts under the radar so it’s easy for me to assume that corpo-Christianity actively censors his message so as not to wake-up the flock.
And happy to oblige!-Check out Survive The Jive’s Thomas Rowsell’s work as well if you’re not already familiar with him!
Stay strong!🍻
this was really f*ing good. Bravo. Shared! I believe Santa is an amalgam of all the European male gods in their winter season. most notably yes Odin but also Thor as the Jovial big bellied (strong core) chariot rider. now just give him sleipnir!
Thank you! I agree. I’ll be uploading a Santa origin video this month too. I’ll be interested to hear your thoughts on that
@@TheHiddenPassage8 appreciated, recently live streamed reading the Voluspa (with a rookie mistake i caught half way) check it out i break down the old norse
First time listener, really liked this video! Would you mind posting a link to the music? Beautiful!
They are royalty-free songs I bought licenses for, so I don’t have links, but I can give you some names. Nordic Medieval, Ancient Temples, by Marcus Bressler, Ancient Rome Music by bluepanda. Those I got on Pond5. Outro song is Ancient Fantasy (Sondé) by Jimmy Gunnarsson and I got that on storyblocks. Hope that helps.
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
Maybe mumming should be brought back. Lol. Let's go to the rich neighborhoods!
😂
Wisdom.
Wish the music wasn't so loud in this video... 😪
that music in the background distracts from what you are presenting ,,,,which is good content
Yep so true
So, at what point in time did this season become the christ mass? Obviously within the Middle Ages, but is there a precise date? I am a Norse Heathen by faith, and I shudder every time I hear a fellow Heathen invoke the name of christ for our Holy Season. Skal
Much earlier than that, sometime in the 4th century AD. Specific date is kind of irrelevant since it was a gradual process and began in different places at different times. Though it mainly started with Constantine in 325 AD.
I hear that. Personally, I’m okay with however people want to celebrate and observe. I just don’t like when they bitch about how others do 😆
Thanks for commenting, and good jól, friend 🍻
25th December . Its Pagan . As a Christian I am not celebrating it. I actually love the music and the video images . Well done
I respect that much more than Christians trying to argue that it’s not pagan 🫡. Thank you!
Do you celebrate from the sixth to the seventh of January?
Which calendar are we going by? Is it the Caesarian one that added two months, the Gregorian one,? Any other kinds? Didn’t the Saturnalia bounce around a December and January over the centuries? Did any other god die and resurrect and ascend on his own-and actually existed? It is more likely the info given those who were approached by God with truth was corrupted as people spread out across the globe far from the Holy Land and those in captivity. These corruptions would have made spreading the Gospel easier, as some things were relatable. It got a little out there in India, but Thomas made a lot of headway there. Any case. God allowed for the corruptions to be useful for later, after Christ opened up salvation for all (the earlier people held in waiting for them if open to that grace by living virtuously). Mankind were still rebellious creatures ontologically sold out to His enemy, so He was under no obligation to free our self-entitled people till good and ready-and we Mass that a very long time. Our bad.
Wouldn't MID-winter be in the first week of February?
That was actually considered the beginning of spring, in the British Isles anyway (Imbolc). Winter started on Samhain so this was midwinter.
Just my opinion the background music can come down a bit it's distracting to your message
Prior to Nicea 1 the spring equinox fell on 25 March, therefore the winter solstice would have been 25 December. Early Christians believed that all religions in the world had prophesies about Christ our God.
You really need to cite your sources better. The Yule section doesn’t even mention Haakon the good, one of the earliest sources on Yule, who ordered Yule be celebrated on Christmas, not the other way around.
Yule was on the full moon in January wasn't it?
@@WillowtreesandChickadees I have seen that claim but haven't found any primary source confirming it, though probably the best source on the time of yule is Snorri Sturluson, who wrote it was three days beginning midwinter, likely January 13-14
present day christian holidays are all rip-offs of old Pagan celebrations.
Really?
In what way?
@@Wotsitorlabartthe more I dig into these topic, the more is surprised that the myths of Christianity “stealing” Christmas is still floating around.
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Pagan or Christian it makes no odds to me.
Christianity has a lot to answer for in its relationship to the pagan religions it came across.
But the neo-pagans can't claim the moral high ground by simply making things up, ignoring evidence that doesn't correspond with their views or simply repeating incorrect information without bothering to check the facts.
And there are a lot of 'The Pagan Roots of.......' videos out there pushing this sort of stuff.
The presenter of this video is not being totally honest.
He quotes Ronald Hutton's 'Stations of the Sun' when it suits his argument but omits Hutton's conclusions when it doesn't.
For instance the video notes the lengthy quote from 'Syrus' concerning his observations regarding the 25th of December being chosen as Christmas Day (and written in the margins of an earlier document) because that was also the Pagan feast of Sol Invictus. But the video fails to mention that there is no evidence for a feast on that date other than from the passage quoted - and that 'Syrus' (actually Scriptor Syrus) was an unknown Christian Syrian writer of the 12th century (Hutton mistakenly says late 4th century century). And he mentions the moving of Christmas from January 6th to December 25th clearly not realising that the Western and Eastern churches had always celebrated the feast on different dates.
But what is more damning is that Hutton clearly states that Sol Invictus wasn't celebrated in December at all - let alone on the 25th.
It took place every four years in October!
But this would disprove the video's argument regarding the Church's deliberate targeting of Sol Invictus.
So let's just ignore it and move on.
I never said it was sol invictus. In any case, you know there was more than one solar observance, so that is somewhat disingenuous and seems like you’re trying to straw man.
This is not a lit review of Hutton’s work, so I don’t feel obliged to include all his points. Ultimately I am making my own argument, but still I try to be fair and say when evidence is lacking
Feel free to disagree with it respectfully, and I appreciate the information, but telling people to ignore my video is kind of a dick move.
@@TheHiddenPassage8
You quoted the 'Syrus' passage because it seemed to back your premise that the 25th was deliberately chosen for Christmas because it was already a pagan festival 'of the birth of the Sun'. This is generally considered to be 'Sol Invictus'.
But whether it is Sol Invictus or some other such festival your arguement relies on a Syrian scribe's notes in the margins of a manuscript in which he gives his opinion as to why he (erroneously) belived the Roman Church moved Christmas day from 6th January to 25th December over 700 years earlier.
And if you believe I was suggesting that people should not watch your video then you misread my comment.
God is Light and in Him is no darkness at all. He created the heaven and earth, the sun, the moon and the stars. He set them in the firmament for signs and for seasons, and for days and years. God is Triune in nature (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). The Lord Jesus Christ is the Second Person of the Trinity, manifest in the flesh. He is the Light of the world and the Savior of the world. It is God who set the sun on its annual circuit. The devil was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. This is why we have stories about gods that appear to predate Christ, but Christ is God and nothing predates God. God's awesome power is clearly seen in His creation. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
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