Minimum wage in NZ is $21.20 an hour, whereas in SA, it's R23.19 an hour, or $2.07 NZD. The average annual income in NZ is around $56,000. The average annual income in SA is around R24,000, or $2,150 NZD. It does not appear to be that much of a closely guarded secret when a minuscule amount of research can uncover these statistics fairly easily! Public education and healthcare is also free here and the service provided does not differ drastically from private alternatives. People on low/no income get monetary support as well as support with food, accommodation, dental work and many other costs that may present themselves. Everyone over the age of 65 receives the pension which totals to just over $24,000 annually. As aforementioned, some research uncovers that in comparison, pensioners in SA only receive R24,000 annually, or $2,150 NZD. As well as this, there is a retirement fund in NZ, called Kiwisaver, that employers and the Government are obliged to contribute a minimum amount to each year for each individual. A little research can get you a long way and removes the necessity of making assumptions! I won't comment on the standard of living or the services provided to the people of SA because I have no knowledge on the matter.
One thing you missing is that those figures applies to the average South African. The average south african is black and poor. If you were to look at white middle class in South Africa compared to white middle class in NZ, South Africa wins for cost of living despite using private facilities for some things. Our black middle class is also not that far off. And I would think the target audience for this video is not for the average South African
Government has stopped reading out water meters.. they flat rate us 3500 rand a month for water and services.. We have water and power issues in our area. 10 days straight no power... Week before that we went a week without water.. Today we have power but barely water... Garbage trucks were all broken.. so our Garbage collection was a joke going up to 3 weeks at a time without collection. The flies... the dumps were also closed for a month at that time... so everyone started dumping outside the dumps gates in the street.. the smell... But I will still get my flat rate R3500.00 per month bill.. and I better pay it.. and every month me or my wife needs to go into the gov offices to show them proof of payment to unblock our meter.... life is good... Hopefully I get my job offer... Had an offer for Australia before the bat flu.. fell through... Hopefully I get something in NZ.. I ❤ NZ.. just from youtube and comments on vids about...
Yeah, but they changed the law last year and anyone earring more than 1 million rands outside the country, will be taxed asa resident. Which is is shame
@@edjohn4590 Sure the crime in SA is a deal breaker. But the electricity - if you are earning enough you can always generate your own - generator + solar with battery.
Great video team. I watched my buddy from SA go through the same price comparisons when he first moved here (albeit with a bit more violence and expletives). I told him if he ever got too homesick I could carjack him. 😎 Moved here 6.5 years from the U.S. (when the average house price in NZ was half what it is now) and we reckon meat pies and Japanese cars (specifically anything baby-blue and horrible from the early 2000s 😁) are about the only affordable items in circulation at the moment. Just about everything people want relies on the big bad world to import, and getting it here is no joke. We own a business and have been pulling our hair out trying to get the manufacturing done in NZ, in many cases our country just don't have the facilities or the capabilities to do the job in-country, regardless of cost. I guess no one loves an island in the South Pacific for it's affordability. 🤭 We love NZ, hell we even love Auckland, and NOBODY loves Auckland. As I used to say to my overtly racist yet oddly loveable sales manager when he'd threaten to call immigration (as a joke), we CHOSE to live here, you were just BORN here, so what's so special about that (also as a joke, calm down TH-cam comment section). I reckon if housing drops another 10-15% over the next year without tanking the economy completely you might see a bit less stress on society, you came at a tough time for sure.
Lol, we should’ve gone for an old baby blue car 😂😂 and let’s just say, we had quite a few pies during our first few weeks here 😅 We totally understand why prices are higher here though! At least you’ve tried to get some manufacturing done here though, must be such a difficult process!
Thank you so much for sharing your personal experiences it really really means a lot. And thank you for not bashing SA but rather making beautiful comparisons about the cost of living in both countries. As a fellow South African Family I do not take this for granted but rather appreciate all things. I am hoping that we get to fix our own countries security issues and making our people feel safe irrespective of the Colour of our skins. And secondly paying our people well and showing them that they are worthy of our love. And lastly reducing our people from government dependence and making life better for all our people. I love you guys I am wishing you all the best of blessings in New Zealand and never forget to visit home ❤️.
Thanks for your comment many of this white south Africans when they come over in New Zealand they trash talk south africa so badly as if they never grew up there:they pissing me off making it look so bad than what it is.🤦♂️
I so love what you have mentioned and written here, Ancient Child. I still love my country of birth and I know a change will come about, soon! Blessings from Aotearoa.
What a great video you both are pros. ... and this video shows how expensive it is to live in NZ bliksem LOL but im here 20 years and I am still very happy here ...looking forward to your next video
Wow, those are the most expensive steaks and potatoes that I've ever seen! I've never heard of paying for a rental by the week either. That seems to be a lot more inconvenient. So interesting to see the behind the scenes of how two countries can do things quite differently!
Haha, we wait until there are specials before we buy certain products 😅 they normally have quite decent discounts 😊 We were so interested to see how prices would differ from SA, and we actually thought it would be much worse 😅
NZ is the most expensive country in the world...with the lowest income for what you're getting, this is a basic inescapable fact, and you can ask any NZ lander!! They all have their stories and a huge number of them have ran away from NZ with absolutely zero plan to ever return... NZ has the biggest brain drain in the whole wide world...these are facts beyond this video...
My friend in SA immigrated to NZ after they retired, so they are living on their pensions which is halved by the time they get it, they obviously have mega savings which supplements their income, but she emailed me and told how expensive it was with groceries, utilities, petrol etc.
Cost of living is definitely one area where SA would trump either NZ or Australia. I don't mean luxury goods but what people commonly consume and eat... SA produces a lot of that or can source it from bordering nations, food seems quite cheap there.
The elephant in the room is that all the menial and hard labour in SA is done by black people and they're expected to make do with very little. The waiters, farm workers who harvest the crops, the factory workers, almost are all underpaid black labourers. Hence apartheid was more an economic system rather than pure racism. In SA it's very normal and affordable for white families to have full time live in maids and garderners, and I'm talking about normal middle class people.
@@nostramashego4226 Yeah right lol not just black people. White people to man. Lots of people i know making sub R10 000 a month working long hours. It`s not just black people. I currently get about R50 an hour which yes is a decent amount above minimum but it`s still pretty useless since i have limited work. Got R6400 for the month. What the hell am i supposed to do with that if i were to live on my own and not split rent with more then one person.
NZ inflation is also very high. A lot of the developed world is experiencing high inflation which is erroding cost of living. In SA, our reserve bank actually knows what they are doing and started increasing interest rates last year, way before the kak hit the fan.
Live in Australia, I’ve been here since the 80’s my family moved when I was 9. Born in Cape Town. I’m keen to move back to South Africa. Love the people and the place!
Problem is the Rand is not worth much whereas a NZ$ is. Ive been in NZ over 20 years and not sure Id want to buy a coffee for R34 in Joburg. Unless ofcourse Im earning megga bucks or a slice of cheese cake from Woolies for R50 and that was about 5 years ago.
Thanks for this video, very helpful. I wish you had done an average on the cost or rent because it is usual the biggest cost that one usually incurs. That can make or break a budget.
Wow, costs in NZ have gone up a lot! We used to run O Hagan's in Auckland and a beer draught used to be NZ$5. Imported beers were a little more. Lamb (meat) used to be about a quarter of that in your video. Rent is crazy as well. Hopefully salaries have also increased. On the other hand, these costs have also gone up in most other countries worldwide. The comparison is really interesting though. Thanks for a great video.
Varies though, some places in Auckland I found pale ales for $10. So far the Australian imports where the cheapest beers I found. Had 2 fish and chips (huge size) at a small (but packed) shop in Massey last week. Best thing is not to think of it in rand terms, just going to make yourself depressed 🤣
8:45 yay Karoo lamb no less - A HUGE reason to live in SA (also bought in Hilton Quarry, so meat may be slightly cheaper there) The thing is though, with Spar, it's a independant owner, so price really vary from Spar to Spar. Maybe a Checkers would be a good comparison or Woolworths?
Really awesome vid! NZ seems to be a gamble when comparing with the price of things in UK - some items in NZ seem to be half of what we pay here. Yet others are around the same. For the flashing video, try adjusting the hertz or frame rate if possible - to 50fps or 25… should stop the flicker 🤙🏻
One of the biggest reasons I stay in Durban is the cost of living. Food, meat, drinks etc. We are very spoiled here in SA but you only realise this when you leave. I lived overseas for a bit and the creature comforts were not there - the biggest shocker was always McDonalds. McDonalds in South Africa is FAR superior than any other McDonalds I've had ANYWHERE else. The meat is ikomo hahaha proper Midlands cows.
@@MrM0nKey79 yeah but I would gladly replace the coke float with a 100% beef burger. I think the worst burger I had was in Spain, tasted like a mix of cardboard filler and beef
@@francoiswilliams i don't know if that's true. Maybe you've got your network down in jhb? Durban can be pricey for tourists but it's one of the cheapest places for good food and drinks. When I'm here I easily put on 10kg from just eating and eating and eating which I can't afford to do anywhere else
I have been living in Cape Town for 54 years never had a security company for safety or anything related.We were rated second best city in the world after New York for 2024 higher than any Australian or New Zealand city and we own the Rugby world cup , just saying.
These comparisons are so interesting!! I love that you thought to do this while you were still in SA. In Canada we don't really have many 6 count egg cartons (at least not where I live), it is usually about 3.69 CAD for 12 eggs. You've made me curious and now I'm doing the exchange rates to NZ on all our basic items too 🤣
@@BeingBedingfield I can send you a list of the same items cost, if that is of any value. Maybe other viewers in the rest of the world could do the same.
What is the average salary in South Africa? According to Stats SA and their quarterly employment survey (QES), the average income in South Africa is (gross) R303,648 per year or R25,304 per month. This quarter's data shows a 2.7% decrease from the previous quarter and a 6.8% increase from the first quarter of 2022.
Wow... what an amazing comparison video. 😀 We've been in Hamilton for over a month now and loving it. It was very interesting to compare your costs against ours. We found that Countdown (Aussie Woolworths) is very similar to Checkers in SA. Pak n Save has the best meat cuts we've found but the prices are very similar to buying meet at a SA store here in NZ. The rentals when we first arrived seemed extremely expensive but once earning dollars it was manageable but still expensive in the current times for what you get. We thankfully don't pay for water or refuse removal so hopefully you don't get a shock once you do receive a water bill. I would also note that for us personally we are earning about 3-4 times more than what we were in SA which I think offsets the cost of living here in NZ. Fuel is great because you can get the Gaspy app and shop around for the cheapest fuel haha 😄 Keep up the great work and look forward to future videos 💫
Thanks so much for sharing your experience 😊 Our Pak n Save doesn’t have the greatest meat, except for the boerewors 😅 Thanks for sharing about the fuel app, we’ll check it out 👍
I love your videos guys...keep it up. They have been helpful ever since I moved to KZN in May of this year. Good to see Craig, he was my colleague and fellow Kopano man (university residence) back in varsity.
It’s may appear cheaper in SA, but the Rand and what you earn is not comparable. Rand for rand, dollar for dollar, SA is an expensive country, Void of any government services and responsibility. Won’t go back.
NZ is crazily expensive, and salaries are a joke. The weather is fickle, but we still put up with it all. Love your videos, and your bloopers are awesome! Keep up the great work guys
@@gissyb1 yeah you are right to a certain extent, guess I'm totally "over" shite wages and the high cost of living. That said I'm proud to be a kiwi. Need my head read LoL
When my ex and I returned to NZ after 4 plus years in the UK, back in the 1990's we could not believe how shite NZ food was and crazily overpriced. Basically, that continues today 😞 No excuses for a farm-based economy.
@@gregbooth1551 wow when I got hm from uk I realised how beautiful nz food was and how lovely n clean & free nz is. & You think nz wages are bad? Lol you obviously haven't been to SAfrica ?! I get $ 37 phr pretty good imo & I can afford everything easily
In December/ January my mum and I will be visiting my brother's in New Zealand. My second time(10 years ago) and my mum's first time. So ya we excited to see what's " cooking" that side
The calculation are incorrect. It should be based on min or average wage and hours worked to afford the item. I bought a new car and work two hour per week to afford the weekly payment. In SA its was four hours per week to afford the same.
Great breakdown of costs. Big savings are education and healthcare. A model c type school in SA will set you back thousands whereas here in NZ it's basically free. Healthcare is also basically sorted as in no expensive medical aids. You also probably need to look at costs relative to what you earn. After living here for a while I can day that I have a lot more disposable income than what I had in SA. Beer prices are definitely eina on the pocket here. Love your videos. Keep enjoying it he new adventure.
😂😂🍺eina on the pocket 😅 Luckily beer isn’t too badly priced in the grocery stores. I think we’ll have a better idea of how far our salary goes in a few months time only.
Job well done, thanks for sharing the cost differences. Beer is definitely a huge difference, think we’d be having a few more at home 😂😂. Everything has gone up inflation in the US has made it challenging for many, I just paid $7 for 12 eggs! Great video thanks for your research. ~Cara 😊 (always love the bloops!)
Alcohol is quite highly taxed in NZ, which doesn't help prices, but does raise revenue I guess. Surprised to see that petrol was similar prices, considering how much of the price in NZ is tax , with GST (VAT) added on top.
Used secondhand cars, specifically a small suv type car would be between $19 - 26K. Salaries are higher, minimum wage is about $22 per hour. Not sure about healthcare yet. Depends what outdoor activities…so many beaches and hiking options which are all free. Seems like most people own kayaks, sups, boats, fishing gear, etc…so after the initial purchase of the equipment it will keep you busy for days 😅
Great video here's my opinion after growing up in KZN and living in NZ for 12yrs. Been back twice to Durban recently for a year each time to live and work in the Durban North area. Let's talk salary, rent and home ownership. I'm an engineer and I earn about 20% more in NZ than I would in SA. Rent in NZ is around R25,000pm for a prefab 3 bed place with 1 bathroom. Compared to the same brick home that would be around R15,000pm in SA. Buying the NZ house would be around R13mil and they want a R1.3mil deposit. Buying the SA house would be around R3mil in a good area with a small or no deposit required. If home ownership and retirement is important to you. Maybe NZ is not where you want to be. Another consideration is SA private Healthcare and semi-private education is far superior to NZ. Healthcare is not free in NZ you pay for dentists and doctors visits etc. If you have a health issue you have to go onto the long waiting list for an operation etc. Many people in NZ actually have medical aid for these reasons. There's crime but it's relatively low in NZ. The weather in NZ sucks and if you surf so does the surf compared to Durbs. Many people are leaving NZ these days for Durbs and Cape Town. Not even the loadshedding and crime can put them off!
Mathilda5xp Truth! However, I am living in New Zealand for the last 25years and doing very well. Teachers are paid much better here. It is hard work, but I do enjoy my teaching experience in my adopted country. Stay blessed.
@@Mathilda5xp 25yrs ago NZ house prices were about 70% cheaper. That ship has sailed as a new immigrant teacher you can barely afford to rent a flat unfortunately. My wife is a teacher and finds the education system in NZ inferior to the semi-private and private schools in SA. There is also a lot of wokeness and discipline issues we would rather not raise our kids in. Each to their own glad it's worked out for you immigrating a long time ago.
The comparisons are interesting, but unfortunately a bit meaningless since your don’t compare your incomes in both countries as well. At the very least the expenses should have also been expressed as a percentage of income to try and make any sense of it.
Hi Chantal and Craig.. Yes some things are more expensive than what you get in SA but one thing that is a difference it the amount out earnings you get to what you get in SA .. for instance pension in SA is around R1800 (SASSA) per month and I can tell you that the pension here you can add another 0 to that... plus we get paid twice in a month.. So you can easily afford the extra beer by far..lol
@@susanslatter6746 We're either living for free, the first 6 months we arrived in SA, now we're here in Kensington Jhb, our tent is R1500 including water, electricity and internet, and we need about 500 rand's for food...so yea we live on R 2000 to R 2500 a month
@@francoiswilliams In a tent!! you have electricity..wow that's amazing...I'm aware of severe loadshedding at the moment and how do you keep warm in winter in a tent!
Yeah I totally agree, assuming working in similar roles, a better comparison would be how many minutes do you work to purchase those groceries in each country.
We hear what you guys are saying, but we simply wanted to compare costs as is. We didn’t really want to share our salary information, but I’m sure people can work out percentages based on their own package offers. There are also a lot of people coming over with rands to visit family, so might be insightful for them. It was a lot of fun to make this video though 😅
@@BeingBedingfield haha maybe pick a random position and show what percentage of salary. I’m guessing it would be about the same percentage. We can share salaries privately. Lol The video makes NZ look expensive but it’s not as expensive as South Africa when you think about what people actually earn. I would suggest look at the salary of a public school teacher… 🤷🏾♂️ something common in both countries.
@@BeingBedingfield How about use the Big Mac index again? How much does a new Mickey Dee's employee earn in SA v NZ? How much does a secondary school (high school) teacher start on?
Amazing. Interesting to know that Craig is in the civil engineering field. I am also and looking to come over soon. Would be nice to make contact with work related questions.
Hey.. this is very useful, tks for it.. after having all these comparisons...what is your overall view on COL @NZ? and to manage at least an average life.. what would be the minimum annual salary?
Thanks so much! I think you’ll need to draw up a budget and work out what you’ll need to earn. That’s what we did while still in SA, because we knew we would only have one income…and we’re still sticking to that 😊 It really depends on your lifestyle, the area you live, the house/apartment you choose, etc.
There are other factors as well. In South Africa, a middle-class person can have cleaners or gardeners, in New Zealand it's for people with a lot of money.
Hey hey, 2 weeks to go for us until we grace the south coast of KZN .. cannot wait ..:) So if you look at the costs that you compared in this video, looking at the NZ costs, it is probably too early to tell, but how do they are compare considering that you guys are now earning NZ$ instead of using Rands that you brought over? Virtually EVERYTHING is more expensive in $NZ so us coming over to NZ on holiday (hopefully that day will come), I can see us counting our penny's left-right and centre because in essence, we'll be spending Rands paying virtually double the price on many, many items like you guys did when you arrived. Our fuel is around R22+- a litre now, but will be going up in Dec. In NZ, what happens if you want to fill up? You cannot really prepay because you won't know how much you are going to spend.
Hi Glen, you must be so excited for your visit! We can’t wait to go down to south island 😌 We are still slowly adjusting to the NZ$, might take a few more salaries 😅
@@BeingBedingfield be careful on the roads south of Auckland. All the way to the South Island....big trucks, almost no tar on the other side of the yellow side line, and beware if you meet a massive truck on a small bridge... Knuip knuip.
In SA if you are a property owner you pay rates which includes water, sanitation and refuse charges. Depending on the area it can also include eg improvement district charge.
Hahaha I saw most who migrated are coming back in droves. Apparently the grass is not so green on the other side. I travel for 5 years or so but my roots will always be in South africa. Love the country.
@@jldp24 It hasn't stopped people immigrating to NZ in there thousands and at a slightly higher percentage then Australia and why the National Government have been forced to address it and slow the arrivals here.
great vid again. vlogmas is gonna be a blast. just one critique though. I'd have shopped at PicknPay or Shoprite/Checkers instead of Spar for the comparison. Spar SA is too much of an anomaly with it's pricing. but anyways, that's in the past. Is countdown similar to Woolworths Australia? Same 'w' sign.
Thanks so much Ray 😊 We did our grocery shop in Hilton and there is only a Spar 😅 so we didn’t really have a choice. I’m not sure if Countdown is similar to Woolworths Australia 🤔 maybe someone here will know?
Thanks for a brilliant vidclip .... So lekker om die ZA 'accent' te hoor ..... :-) :-) :-) Was Great to compare ..... BUT, what was Seriously missing is the INCOME Comparison ..... :-) :-) :-) So, how many hrs you have to work at the SAME Job to buy the same groceries or pay your rent or litre of petrol. We came to ChCh, NZ in 1996 and have Not regretted it for a second .... The 1st year was absolutely Difficult .... Let's be honest here!!!! A Breeze thereafter.... We lost 2/3 of what we had to get to NZ in '96, BUT in 5 years we made it All Back PLUS ..... Retired now, have been back to ZA 4 times, last about 4 years ago..... Was super difficult in respect to Crime and 'Feeling Safe' ..... Groot Groete aan Almal, Cheers vanuit ChCh, NZ
In case you want to use this to make any serious comparisons... Looking at a country's cost of living e.g. CPI only makes sense in the context of the country's average income. You also need to get beyond averages, you actually need to look at what you could earn and what you'd pay extra in tax etc. For example, as a professional software engineer you might get 2x-4x the salary in Germany over SA, your cost of living would at least double and your taxes would increase greatly to pay for things like healthcare (which you won't immediately be able to take advantage of). Lots of people leaving SA get the math wrong and are surprised how they don't feel that salary increase. A potentially smart might be a financial immigration if you can work remotely before a physical immigration.
Income to expenses is relevant to the country itself. You can't compare a beer in NZ to a beer in SA by simply converting it to Rand; you would only do this if it were for holiday purposes. You have to also convert the monthly wages/salary of NZ to Rand. Example. Average accountant salary NZ (2023) = $85,000 NZ or R 1,004,700 at 11.82 Rands to the NZ Dollar; Compared to average RSA accountant salary (2023) = R 420,000 or $ 35,533 NZ. That's a $ 49,467 NZ difference annually. So if we take the cost of a beer in NZ in relation to the average monthly income compared to SA (Gross salaries): $ 85,000 / 12 Months = $ 7,083 R 420,000 / 12 Months = R 35,000 1 Beer = $ 14 or 0.2% of your income (NZ) 1 Beer = R 40 or 0.11% of your income (SA) Therefore, beer in NZ is more expensive relative to income. Another example: Rent in SA for 2 bedroom flat/townhouse in okay'ish area = R 7,500 on a R 35,000 salary, which equates to 21% of income. Private medical in SA is very high for basic coverage compared to our income. i.e. R 4,500 on a R 35,000 salary = 13% of Income NZ taxes paid actually gets used for infrastructure / services / public safety etc. SA taxes paid is used for own personal gain by the government. Public healthcare is sickening once you do the research (had to provide our own pillows and bed sheets for my grandfather when he was submitted to state hospital in the Free state / Had to bath him ourselves; they left him lying in his own bowl movements until my uncle walked him out of the Hospital in his arms and let him pass away with dignity at his house) We have constant loadshedding and SA is losing close to R 900,000,000 per day in its economy as a result. The SOE that provides the electricity is roughly R 400 Billion Rand in debt (stolen from tax payers) of which the consumer has to make up for in price hikes bi-annually, while loadshedding increases. We have to barricade our homes with barbed wire, steel fencing, cameras and self-defense weapons. We do however have the most beautiful country; diverse in wildlife and culture, friendly people, amazing scenery. So yes, lifestyle here is great, however, if you can afford it, and if you know how to stay safe. The majority of the country cannot afford holidays to the coast or the bushveld, they live in absolute poverty and don't have a basic education or income. Like I said, it's all relevant to each Country as some things are cheaper in one country but more expensive in the next. One country has an amazing lifestyle should you be able to afford it but insane crime and corruption. The next country has great lifestyle and very little crime, corruption or unemployment. Do I want to leave my country...NO Should I leave my country for the sake of my new baby boy...perhaps To each his own, but I am very happy for you guys and it looks as though you are happy yourselves. Congrats on the move
So we pay about the same for fuel? And it seems like the electricity was also about the same, what is the unit price? Electricity will go up again. Price on some of the meat wasn't too bad.
The "medium" in South Africa is actually what used to be large but they shifted up the sizes . If you want actual medium, you need to order the regular
Lived in NZ for 5 years I spent R700000 on rent mind you for just a tiny bedroom paid R400 p/w on rent in the mission bay area ...cost of living is insane in NZ you basically earn hand to mouth ...if I in S.A I would have a house right now,I left NZ for good reason is immigrates work yet the money goes back to the country...you hardly save
@@tshegofatsomokonoto6409 And are you earning much more than what you earned in NZ? What is your rent like in SA? Are you paying much less for food and have you saved a lot of money in SA since you went back? Just interested to know because I earn a very good salary in NZ. I do have more than enough money left to deposit every second week in my savings account. I paid my car off within one year. My water bill is less than$60 every 4th month. I live in a modern, big flat.
@@Mathilda5xp yes I have saved and have more money here rather then getting paid in R12000 weekly to spend it on bills in NZ...now I live in a beautiful place well furnished and make more money then in NZ and more opportunities,life abroad doesn't entice me any longer coz the money goes back to the country you reside in...life is affordable back in S.A honestly
(new zealand)The adult minimum wage is now $23.15 per hour, effective 1 April 2024. The training and starting-out minimum wages have also increased to $18.52 from the previous rate of $18.16 per hour, which is 80% of the adult minimum wage.
One thing I know about Alcohol is that it costs a fortune overseas, especially international brands w.r.t to the specific country. i.e Imported beers were ridiculous in Japan, but their local beers were priced reasonably. But the most expensive and only beer(Stella Artois) I've ever purchased in America was 15USD for a 330ml bottle, I was like daaamn Vegas! This was in 2016, that same beer is probably $20 now with inflation and all. New Zealand looks like a nice place, and at least fuel price is similar.
Luckily the craft beers in the shops here are a lot more affordable than at the pub 😅 I think our favourite country for beer is Prague…and it was so cheap as well 🍻
Cool content ! :) The difference is scary. The US is even worse than NZ. Seems absurd that a currency switch should have such drastic implications to translative buying power, especially since these days the world is a global village. SA has its problems, but so does any/every other country. And its actually counter-intuitive when you think about it: you'd think a country with weaker currency would be more expensive to live in - and yet it's actually the other way around.... until hyper inflation kicks in. A "big mac" for instance, should cost the same in terms of converted value for money, regardless where you are in the world. It's a tough one, because enforcing one world currency has massive drawbacks as well. But either way, it's really nonsense. Why should the average American or Australian have this edge over a South African when touring the world, for doing the same amount of work back home, or having the same skills? What's worse, the Rand continues to depreciate at an alarming rate on a nearly daily basis. One more thing: It's all fair and well to say that cost of living here is lower than these other countries, but with inflation the way it is, things have still become very expensive for South Africans who are earning Rands. I used to shop at Woolworths regularly for the premium quality you get there. Can't do that anymore... have to shop around and cherry pick way more cautiously these days
Minimum wage in NZ is $21.20 an hour, whereas in SA, it's R23.19 an hour, or $2.07 NZD. The average annual income in NZ is around $56,000. The average annual income in SA is around R24,000, or $2,150 NZD. It does not appear to be that much of a closely guarded secret when a minuscule amount of research can uncover these statistics fairly easily! Public education and healthcare is also free here and the service provided does not differ drastically from private alternatives. People on low/no income get monetary support as well as support with food, accommodation, dental work and many other costs that may present themselves. Everyone over the age of 65 receives the pension which totals to just over $24,000 annually. As aforementioned, some research uncovers that in comparison, pensioners in SA only receive R24,000 annually, or $2,150 NZD. As well as this, there is a retirement fund in NZ, called Kiwisaver, that employers and the Government are obliged to contribute a minimum amount to each year for each individual. A little research can get you a long way and removes the necessity of making assumptions! I won't comment on the standard of living or the services provided to the people of SA because I have no knowledge on the matter.
Thanks for sharing Oliver!
Hopefully those asking about salaries have a clearer picture now.
NZ is still expensive despite those figures. Honestly. the lifestyle overseas is overrated. SA still has the best lifestyle at a cheap price
Just double check that average SA annual income. Seems way too low.
One thing you missing is that those figures applies to the average South African. The average south african is black and poor. If you were to look at white middle class in South Africa compared to white middle class in NZ, South Africa wins for cost of living despite using private facilities for some things. Our black middle class is also not that far off. And I would think the target audience for this video is not for the average South African
Government has stopped reading out water meters.. they flat rate us 3500 rand a month for water and services..
We have water and power issues in our area. 10 days straight no power...
Week before that we went a week without water..
Today we have power but barely water...
Garbage trucks were all broken.. so our Garbage collection was a joke going up to 3 weeks at a time without collection. The flies... the dumps were also closed for a month at that time... so everyone started dumping outside the dumps gates in the street.. the smell...
But I will still get my flat rate R3500.00 per month bill.. and I better pay it.. and every month me or my wife needs to go into the gov offices to show them proof of payment to unblock our meter.... life is good...
Hopefully I get my job offer...
Had an offer for Australia before the bat flu.. fell through...
Hopefully I get something in NZ..
I ❤ NZ.. just from youtube and comments on vids about...
The absolute best life in the world will always be living in SA while earning GBP/EUR/USD/etc
Yeah!!! Can you imagine 😅
Yeah, but they changed the law last year and anyone earring more than 1 million rands outside the country, will be taxed asa resident. Which is is shame
Personal opinion for you.There is a big wide world out there to explore. The crime drove me out 41 years ago and I have never looked back
Sure buddy.. whilst living like a prisoner in your own home without electricity 😆
@@edjohn4590 Sure the crime in SA is a deal breaker. But the electricity - if you are earning enough you can always generate your own - generator + solar with battery.
Great video team. I watched my buddy from SA go through the same price comparisons when he first moved here (albeit with a bit more violence and expletives). I told him if he ever got too homesick I could carjack him. 😎
Moved here 6.5 years from the U.S. (when the average house price in NZ was half what it is now) and we reckon meat pies and
Japanese cars (specifically anything baby-blue and horrible from the early 2000s 😁) are about the only affordable items in circulation at the moment.
Just about everything people want relies on the big bad world to import, and getting it here is no joke. We own a business and have been pulling our hair out trying to get the manufacturing done in NZ, in many cases our country just don't have the facilities or the capabilities to do the job in-country, regardless of cost.
I guess no one loves an island in the South Pacific for it's affordability. 🤭 We love NZ, hell we even love Auckland, and NOBODY loves Auckland. As I used to say to my overtly racist yet oddly loveable sales manager when he'd threaten to call immigration (as a joke), we CHOSE to live here, you were just BORN here, so what's so special about that (also as a joke, calm down TH-cam comment section).
I reckon if housing drops another 10-15% over the next year without tanking the economy completely you might see a bit less stress on society, you came at a tough time for sure.
Lol, we should’ve gone for an old baby blue car 😂😂 and let’s just say, we had quite a few pies during our first few weeks here 😅
We totally understand why prices are higher here though!
At least you’ve tried to get some manufacturing done here though, must be such a difficult process!
Thank you so much for sharing your personal experiences it really really means a lot. And thank you for not bashing SA but rather making beautiful comparisons about the cost of living in both countries. As a fellow South African Family I do not take this for granted but rather appreciate all things. I am hoping that we get to fix our own countries security issues and making our people feel safe irrespective of the Colour of our skins. And secondly paying our people well and showing them that they are worthy of our love. And lastly reducing our people from government dependence and making life better for all our people. I love you guys I am wishing you all the best of blessings in New Zealand and never forget to visit home ❤️.
Thanks for your comment many of this white south Africans when they come over in New Zealand they trash talk south africa so badly as if they never grew up there:they pissing me off making it look so bad than what it is.🤦♂️
@@mrm3764 😢😢😢South Africa is still our home country and you can just have a look at our old videos to see that we love it 😊
Fantastic video. Thank you for a beautiful comparison.
South Africa with all its challenges still ROCKS. Love this place
I so love what you have mentioned and written here, Ancient Child. I still love my country of birth and I know a change will come about, soon! Blessings from Aotearoa.
I would like to see a video about freedom comparisons. NZ laws vs SA laws. Covid rules etc. CCTV control. Permits. Etc etc.
What a great video you both are pros. ... and this video shows how expensive it is to live in NZ bliksem LOL but im here 20 years and I am still very happy here ...looking forward to your next video
Thanks so much Eugene 😊 wow, 20 years! So glad you’re happy here! We’ve been here 3 months and loving it 🤗
Wow, those are the most expensive steaks and potatoes that I've ever seen! I've never heard of paying for a rental by the week either. That seems to be a lot more inconvenient. So interesting to see the behind the scenes of how two countries can do things quite differently!
Haha, we wait until there are specials before we buy certain products 😅 they normally have quite decent discounts 😊
We were so interested to see how prices would differ from SA, and we actually thought it would be much worse 😅
NZ is the most expensive country in the world...with the lowest income for what you're getting, this is a basic inescapable fact, and you can ask any NZ lander!! They all have their stories and a huge number of them have ran away from NZ with absolutely zero plan to ever return... NZ has the biggest brain drain in the whole wide world...these are facts beyond this video...
Rentals by week because a lot of people get paid weekly. Got all my payments are set for biweekly because that's how I get paid. Y
I'm still trying to process paying the equivalent of R61 for 4 potatoes. Yikes! Awesome video, very informative!
I know 😂
But check their minimum wage.
Thanks guys, Great stuff but need to know average salaries to do a proper comparison on cost of living however if going on holiday this is great info.
My friend in SA immigrated to NZ after they retired, so they are living on their pensions which is halved by the time they get it, they obviously have mega savings which supplements their income, but she emailed me and told how expensive it was with groceries, utilities, petrol etc.
Oh wow, that was super brave to do, I’m sure they’re glad they came over though 😊
@@BeingBedingfield the brave thing is to stay in South Africa 😂😂 and give your money to the criminals both on the street and in the parliament
@@lance9664 true
@@lance9664 Been back here a year now from Asia but no sign of criminals anywhere , not on the streets for sure... So NZ no criminals either?
Cost of living is definitely one area where SA would trump either NZ or Australia. I don't mean luxury goods but what people commonly consume and eat... SA produces a lot of that or can source it from bordering nations, food seems quite cheap there.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video, so informative. Best way comparing then in SA vs Now with live footage. Love it.
Thank you so much, really appreciate your comment ☺️🙏
This is good for tourism in Durban. Nice video guys
Built into the prices would be production costs, including labour. A wage/salary comparison for workers would be interesting.
Minimum wage in NZ is $ 21.20 pr hr . I'd be interested to know for instance what those Macdonalds workers get paid in SA ?
@@chrismclean980that is 3 days pay here in South Africa for McDonald's
The elephant in the room is that all the menial and hard labour in SA is done by black people and they're expected to make do with very little. The waiters, farm workers who harvest the crops, the factory workers, almost are all underpaid black labourers. Hence apartheid was more an economic system rather than pure racism. In SA it's very normal and affordable for white families to have full time live in maids and garderners, and I'm talking about normal middle class people.
@@nostramashego4226 Yeah right lol not just black people. White people to man. Lots of people i know making sub R10 000 a month working long hours. It`s not just black people. I currently get about R50 an hour which yes is a decent amount above minimum but it`s still pretty useless since i have limited work. Got R6400 for the month. What the hell am i supposed to do with that if i were to live on my own and not split rent with more then one person.
NZ inflation is also very high. A lot of the developed world is experiencing high inflation which is erroding cost of living. In SA, our reserve bank actually knows what they are doing and started increasing interest rates last year, way before the kak hit the fan.
Agree, as bad as corruption and crime is I think SA will be better off with the coming recession in 2023 than developed countries.
100% Agree
Live in Australia, I’ve been here since the 80’s my family moved when I was 9. Born in Cape Town. I’m keen to move back to South Africa. Love the people and the place!
Problem is the Rand is not worth much whereas a NZ$ is. Ive been in NZ over 20 years and not sure Id want to buy a coffee for R34 in Joburg. Unless ofcourse Im earning megga bucks or a slice of cheese cake from Woolies for R50 and that was about 5 years ago.
Thanks for this video, very helpful. I wish you had done an average on the cost or rent because it is usual the biggest cost that one usually incurs. That can make or break a budget.
Wow, costs in NZ have gone up a lot! We used to run O Hagan's in Auckland and a beer draught used to be NZ$5. Imported beers were a little more. Lamb (meat) used to be about a quarter of that in your video. Rent is crazy as well. Hopefully salaries have also increased.
On the other hand, these costs have also gone up in most other countries worldwide. The comparison is really interesting though. Thanks for a great video.
Thanks so much for watching. Yip, costs have gone up everywhere 😢 we always find it interesting to see what things cost in other countries
Varies though, some places in Auckland I found pale ales for $10. So far the Australian imports where the cheapest beers I found. Had 2 fish and chips (huge size) at a small (but packed) shop in Massey last week. Best thing is not to think of it in rand terms, just going to make yourself depressed 🤣
Fabulous video, loved the free flowing commentary. Best of luck in NZ.
Thanks so much Richard :)
8:45 yay Karoo lamb no less - A HUGE reason to live in SA (also bought in Hilton Quarry, so meat may be slightly cheaper there) The thing is though, with Spar, it's a independant owner, so price really vary from Spar to Spar.
Maybe a Checkers would be a good comparison or Woolworths?
Yeah a Checkers or PicknPay would have made that cost difference even bigger.
Really awesome vid!
NZ seems to be a gamble when comparing with the price of things in UK - some items in NZ seem to be half of what we pay here. Yet others are around the same.
For the flashing video, try adjusting the hertz or frame rate if possible - to 50fps or 25… should stop the flicker 🤙🏻
Thanks for the tip about the flashing 🙏…that was old footage though and I think Craig has sorted it out in the meantime 😅
One of the biggest reasons I stay in Durban is the cost of living. Food, meat, drinks etc.
We are very spoiled here in SA but you only realise this when you leave. I lived overseas for a bit and the creature comforts were not there - the biggest shocker was always McDonalds. McDonalds in South Africa is FAR superior than any other McDonalds I've had ANYWHERE else.
The meat is ikomo hahaha proper Midlands cows.
Durban is expensive by most SA standards, we get products much cheaper than this here in JHB
Durban is expensive by most SA standards, we get products much cheaper than this here in JHB
McDonald's in Durban doesn't have Frozen Coke and Frozen Coke floats 😉
@@MrM0nKey79 yeah but I would gladly replace the coke float with a 100% beef burger. I think the worst burger I had was in Spain, tasted like a mix of cardboard filler and beef
@@francoiswilliams i don't know if that's true. Maybe you've got your network down in jhb? Durban can be pricey for tourists but it's one of the cheapest places for good food and drinks. When I'm here I easily put on 10kg from just eating and eating and eating which I can't afford to do anywhere else
I have been living in Cape Town for 54 years never had a security company for safety or anything related.We were rated second best city in the world after New York for 2024 higher than any Australian or New Zealand city and we own the Rugby world cup , just saying.
Yeah, Cape Town is an amazing, really special place 💕
I've been here in NZ for over 30 years now. It didn't take me long to work out that New Zealand is a low wage, high cost of living country.
Wow, that’s a long time!!
Ain't that the truth...ask any kiwi 😆😆
@crittersandcretins Neither is dental care free in New Zealand.
Thanks for sharing the cost comparison. It was very informative. I shared it to someone who is going to be emigrating to NZ this year.
God bless
Thanks so much, really appreciate that you shared our video 🙏😊
If you are earning New Zealand dollars it would make sense the rand is so weak I don't even think a comparison would make sense 😅
And the rand is getting weaker by the day…I did some of the conversions again today, and it’s even worse now 😳
Why? The Japanese yen is over 100 per usd...yet Japan is traditionally the most expensive country in the world, so what gives?.
These comparisons are so interesting!! I love that you thought to do this while you were still in SA. In Canada we don't really have many 6 count egg cartons (at least not where I live), it is usually about 3.69 CAD for 12 eggs. You've made me curious and now I'm doing the exchange rates to NZ on all our basic items too 🤣
Thanks so much Sara, this was our fun project 😅 it felt so weird shooting the footage in SA, and then looking back at it now
I live in Canada and almost on all the items Canadians pay less than in New Zealand.
@@piethermanus8777 oh wow, really? Where in Canada do you live?
@@BeingBedingfield Calgary Alberta. Thank you for your channel, love it.
@@BeingBedingfield I can send you a list of the same items cost, if that is of any value. Maybe other viewers in the rest of the world could do the same.
Lovely video. But, what price would you attach to the idea of freedom? Meaning that I have autonomy over my own body? Mmm?
Thanks for watching!
Hey guys. Thanks for the video. Enjoyed it. SA needs you. Come back please. (It’s cheaper here, but no, we do not do electricity)
Thanks for the video, very informative. PS: I always enjoy the bloopers at the end. LOL - Much love guys!
Thanks so much Nokuthula, really appreciate your support 💕
What is the average salary in South Africa? According to Stats SA and their quarterly employment survey (QES), the average income in South Africa is (gross) R303,648 per year or R25,304 per month. This quarter's data shows a 2.7% decrease from the previous quarter and a 6.8% increase from the first quarter of 2022.
Forgot to mention it constantly rains in NZ 🤣🤣👎👎new Zealand is a negative vote for me
🙈 luckily we don’t mind the rain…as long it stays away on weekends 😅
Wow... what an amazing comparison video. 😀
We've been in Hamilton for over a month now and loving it. It was very interesting to compare your costs against ours. We found that Countdown (Aussie Woolworths) is very similar to Checkers in SA. Pak n Save has the best meat cuts we've found but the prices are very similar to buying meet at a SA store here in NZ.
The rentals when we first arrived seemed extremely expensive but once earning dollars it was manageable but still expensive in the current times for what you get.
We thankfully don't pay for water or refuse removal so hopefully you don't get a shock once you do receive a water bill.
I would also note that for us personally we are earning about 3-4 times more than what we were in SA which I think offsets the cost of living here in NZ.
Fuel is great because you can get the Gaspy app and shop around for the cheapest fuel haha 😄
Keep up the great work and look forward to future videos 💫
Thanks so much for sharing your experience 😊
Our Pak n Save doesn’t have the greatest meat, except for the boerewors 😅
Thanks for sharing about the fuel app, we’ll check it out 👍
You earn 3 times what you earned in SA for doing what I wonder 🤔
I love your videos guys...keep it up. They have been helpful ever since I moved to KZN in May of this year. Good to see Craig, he was my colleague and fellow Kopano man (university residence) back in varsity.
Does the salary compensate though?
@@BestKhosa I was curious about that too. You would have to make at least twice, maybe three times as much as in Sa
@@jancovanderwesthuizen8070 higher salary, higher costs.
@@BestKhosa I think it does…minimum wage is about $22 per hour
I’ll tell Craig that you left a comment here 😁
It’s may appear cheaper in SA, but the Rand and what you earn is not comparable. Rand for rand, dollar for dollar, SA is an expensive country, Void of any government services and responsibility. Won’t go back.
NZ is crazily expensive, and salaries are a joke. The weather is fickle, but we still put up with it all. Love your videos, and your bloopers are awesome! Keep up the great work guys
Lol your so negative.... SAfricanss love nz and NZ is not so expensive when you compare wages & exchange
@@gissyb1 yeah you are right to a certain extent, guess I'm totally "over" shite wages and the high cost of living. That said I'm proud to be a kiwi. Need my head read LoL
I absolutely LOVE how diverse our little slice of paradise has become...not everyone shares this view, but bring it on!!
When my ex and I returned to NZ after 4 plus years in the UK, back in the 1990's we could not believe how shite NZ food was and crazily overpriced. Basically, that continues today 😞 No excuses for a farm-based economy.
@@gregbooth1551 wow when I got hm from uk I realised how beautiful nz food was and how lovely n clean & free nz is. & You think nz wages are bad? Lol you obviously haven't been to SAfrica ?! I get $ 37 phr pretty good imo & I can afford everything easily
In December/ January my mum and I will be visiting my brother's in New Zealand. My second time(10 years ago) and my mum's first time. So ya we excited to see what's " cooking" that side
That’s so exciting! Hope you guys have an amazing time here 🤗
You guys are growing from strength to strength.. Keep it up guys! I love it💝💝💝
Thanks so much Ryan 😊
Thank you guys, very informative and realistic. Much appreciated.
Thanks so much for watching and we really appreciate your comment 🙏😊
The calculation are incorrect. It should be based on min or average wage and hours worked to afford the item.
I bought a new car and work two hour per week to afford the weekly payment. In SA its was four hours per week to afford the same.
Great breakdown of costs. Big savings are education and healthcare. A model c type school in SA will set you back thousands whereas here in NZ it's basically free. Healthcare is also basically sorted as in no expensive medical aids. You also probably need to look at costs relative to what you earn. After living here for a while I can day that I have a lot more disposable income than what I had in SA. Beer prices are definitely eina on the pocket here. Love your videos. Keep enjoying it he new adventure.
Yep, it would be interesting to see salaries compared, even if it was just to say that NZ is x-point-x times higher (or lower) than SA.
😂😂🍺eina on the pocket 😅
Luckily beer isn’t too badly priced in the grocery stores.
I think we’ll have a better idea of how far our salary goes in a few months time only.
School and medical is free in SA...plus there's a child allowance ..just btw...
@@francoiswilliams free in SA, not really. In NZ schools are "free" but with mandatory donations lol.
@@Richard_AKL Then how does it work in SA?
Job well done, thanks for sharing the cost differences. Beer is definitely a huge difference, think we’d be having a few more at home 😂😂. Everything has gone up inflation in the US has made it challenging for many, I just paid $7 for 12 eggs! Great video thanks for your research. ~Cara 😊 (always love the bloops!)
It’s quite sad how prices have increased worldwide! Can’t believe eggs are so expensive there 😳 and yes…Craig is having a lot of beers at home 🍻😅
Alcohol is quite highly taxed in NZ, which doesn't help prices, but does raise revenue I guess. Surprised to see that petrol was similar prices, considering how much of the price in NZ is tax , with GST (VAT) added on top.
@@TheClunkingFist Petrol is the one product SA has to import mostly, so why surprised? There's an international oil price right?
we really enjoyed this video!! can tell you guys out so much effort into making it. Loved watching Craig dance at the end lol made us laugh!
Thanks so much guys 😊 yeah, took quite a bit of planning 😅
Interesting video my daughter lives in Gisborne will be visiting her soon🤗❤️Sending love from South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦❤️
Thanks for watching 😊 when last did you see your daughter?
@@BeingBedingfield 2017 its been a while 😒miss them so much🤗
first time watching, you guys ROCK !!!
Thanks so much! And welcome to our channel 🤗💕
There is one major difference and at the end of the day , if it wasn’t for that , no one would leave SA , let’s be honest
What's the difference 😂
Isn't the cost of living more relevant to earnings not price comparison.
Nice video guys. Hope you are really happy over there 👍
Thanks Adrian! Yeah, we’re loving it so far 🤗
Brilliant video and very informative 🎉🎉
Thanks for watching 😊
How does car prices and salaries compare? Health care services? Outdoor activities?
Used secondhand cars, specifically a small suv type car would be between $19 - 26K.
Salaries are higher, minimum wage is about $22 per hour.
Not sure about healthcare yet.
Depends what outdoor activities…so many beaches and hiking options which are all free. Seems like most people own kayaks, sups, boats, fishing gear, etc…so after the initial purchase of the equipment it will keep you busy for days 😅
Without an indication as to the amount people earn in SA vs NZ this comparison lacks context. What are the salary differences for average type jobs?
Very good video!!! My wife was from whangarei so I been to that McDonald’s a few times :)
That’s so cool! Where do you guys live now?
Oh wait, you’re in the USA right?
Great video here's my opinion after growing up in KZN and living in NZ for 12yrs. Been back twice to Durban recently for a year each time to live and work in the Durban North area. Let's talk salary, rent and home ownership. I'm an engineer and I earn about 20% more in NZ than I would in SA. Rent in NZ is around R25,000pm for a prefab 3 bed place with 1 bathroom. Compared to the same brick home that would be around R15,000pm in SA. Buying the NZ house would be around R13mil and they want a R1.3mil deposit. Buying the SA house would be around R3mil in a good area with a small or no deposit required. If home ownership and retirement is important to you. Maybe NZ is not where you want to be. Another consideration is SA private Healthcare and semi-private education is far superior to NZ. Healthcare is not free in NZ you pay for dentists and doctors visits etc. If you have a health issue you have to go onto the long waiting list for an operation etc. Many people in NZ actually have medical aid for these reasons. There's crime but it's relatively low in NZ. The weather in NZ sucks and if you surf so does the surf compared to Durbs. Many people are leaving NZ these days for Durbs and Cape Town. Not even the loadshedding and crime can put them off!
Mathilda5xp
Truth! However, I am living in New Zealand for the last 25years and doing very well. Teachers are paid much better here. It is hard work, but I do enjoy my teaching experience in my adopted country. Stay blessed.
@@Mathilda5xp 25yrs ago NZ house prices were about 70% cheaper. That ship has sailed as a new immigrant teacher you can barely afford to rent a flat unfortunately. My wife is a teacher and finds the education system in NZ inferior to the semi-private and private schools in SA. There is also a lot of wokeness and discipline issues we would rather not raise our kids in. Each to their own glad it's worked out for you immigrating a long time ago.
The comparisons are interesting, but unfortunately a bit meaningless since your don’t compare your incomes in both countries as well. At the very least the expenses should have also been expressed as a percentage of income to try and make any sense of it.
What a cool video. Very informative
Thanks so much for watching Carmen 😊
Hi Chantal and Craig.. Yes some things are more expensive than what you get in SA but one thing that is a difference it the amount out earnings you get to what you get in SA .. for instance pension in SA is around R1800 (SASSA) per month and I can tell you that the pension here you can add another 0 to that... plus we get paid twice in a month.. So you can easily afford the extra beer by far..lol
Pension in SA is R 2000 just about, enough to live on ..
@@francoiswilliams really! you live on R2000 in SA
@@susanslatter6746 Korrek...why not?
@@susanslatter6746 We're either living for free, the first 6 months we arrived in SA, now we're here in Kensington Jhb, our tent is R1500 including water, electricity and internet, and we need about 500 rand's for food...so yea we live on R 2000 to R 2500 a month
@@francoiswilliams In a tent!! you have electricity..wow that's amazing...I'm aware of severe loadshedding at the moment and how do you keep warm in winter in a tent!
Should show what it cost as a percentage of the weekly salary rather than exchange rate
Yeah I totally agree, assuming working in similar roles, a better comparison would be how many minutes do you work to purchase those groceries in each country.
We hear what you guys are saying, but we simply wanted to compare costs as is.
We didn’t really want to share our salary information, but I’m sure people can work out percentages based on their own package offers.
There are also a lot of people coming over with rands to visit family, so might be insightful for them.
It was a lot of fun to make this video though 😅
@@BeingBedingfield haha maybe pick a random position and show what percentage of salary. I’m guessing it would be about the same percentage.
We can share salaries privately. Lol
The video makes NZ look expensive but it’s not as expensive as South Africa when you think about what people actually earn.
I would suggest look at the salary of a public school teacher… 🤷🏾♂️ something common in both countries.
@@BeingBedingfield How about use the Big Mac index again? How much does a new Mickey Dee's employee earn in SA v NZ? How much does a secondary school (high school) teacher start on?
Hi I've been missing your vlogs which I just love soooo much
Hi Sheree, thanks so much for watching 😊
Amazing. Interesting to know that Craig is in the civil engineering field. I am also and looking to come over soon.
Would be nice to make contact with work related questions.
How can you compare when the earnings and exchange rates are so different? Everything in NZ would be expensive for us earning SA rand
Hey.. this is very useful, tks for it.. after having all these comparisons...what is your overall view on COL @NZ? and to manage at least an average life.. what would be the minimum annual salary?
Thanks so much!
I think you’ll need to draw up a budget and work out what you’ll need to earn. That’s what we did while still in SA, because we knew we would only have one income…and we’re still sticking to that 😊
It really depends on your lifestyle, the area you live, the house/apartment you choose, etc.
What are your qualifications?
Great video guys
Thanks so much Bongumusa 😊
IT would be interesting to see costs as a percentage of salary or wages
These comparisons, although very interesting, are not really relevant. To draw an accurate comparison, one would need to compare income rates as well.
There are other factors as well. In South Africa, a middle-class person can have cleaners or gardeners, in New Zealand it's for people with a lot of money.
Yup!! We were definitely spoiled in SA :)
Lived in NZ 8yrs and always got sauces with Maccas
Great video… Avg salary in NZ is also alot more than in SA… so you cant really compare the two with a direct conversion.
Thanks so much for watching! Yip, average salary is definitely higher in NZ!
@@BeingBedingfield Really??
And salaries in Aus are higher than NZ
Some of the costs are 3 to 4 times higher. Are the salaries also 3 to 4 times higher?
I love your vlogs, very informative 👏
Thanks so much Nonhlanhla 😊
So how do wages compare?
Salaries are a lot higher in NZ! Minimum wage is $22 per hour.
You cannot compare cost of living without the earning amount. What is the earning difference?
Salaries are higher in NZ, minimum wage is about $22 an hour.
Thanks
hmmm newzealand aint no joke, thank you so much for enlightment
Hey hey, 2 weeks to go for us until we grace the south coast of KZN .. cannot wait ..:) So if you look at the costs that you compared in this video, looking at the NZ costs, it is probably too early to tell, but how do they are compare considering that you guys are now earning NZ$ instead of using Rands that you brought over? Virtually EVERYTHING is more expensive in $NZ so us coming over to NZ on holiday (hopefully that day will come), I can see us counting our penny's left-right and centre because in essence, we'll be spending Rands paying virtually double the price on many, many items like you guys did when you arrived. Our fuel is around R22+- a litre now, but will be going up in Dec.
In NZ, what happens if you want to fill up? You cannot really prepay because you won't know how much you are going to spend.
Prepaying for fuel is not common in NZ, usually only at petrol stations on motorways at night, etc.
Hi Glen, you must be so excited for your visit! We can’t wait to go down to south island 😌
We are still slowly adjusting to the NZ$, might take a few more salaries 😅
You swipe your card and it checks your balance and gives you a limit on how much you can put in.
@@BeingBedingfield be careful on the roads south of Auckland. All the way to the South Island....big trucks, almost no tar on the other side of the yellow side line, and beware if you meet a massive truck on a small bridge... Knuip knuip.
Very interesting!
In SA if you are a property owner you pay rates which includes water, sanitation and refuse charges. Depending on the area it can also include eg improvement district charge.
Hahaha I saw most who migrated are coming back in droves. Apparently the grass is not so green on the other side. I travel for 5 years or so but my roots will always be in South africa. Love the country.
Shopping at PaknSav is way cheaper than any shopping store in NZ. You pay at wholesale price rather than retail price which is very expensive.
now lets compare average salary job to job and avg income country to country
Everything in NZ is so expensive but I would like to know what the salary comparisons are?
True because this is what it comes down to
Nz is around 50% more expensive everything being equal. This is why many young Nzers move to australia.
@@jldp24 It hasn't stopped people immigrating to NZ in there thousands and at a slightly higher percentage then Australia and why the National Government have been forced to address it and slow the arrivals here.
@@arrivingone from china
@@jldp24 nope mostly from India
great vid again. vlogmas is gonna be a blast. just one critique though. I'd have shopped at PicknPay or Shoprite/Checkers instead of Spar for the comparison. Spar SA is too much of an anomaly with it's pricing. but anyways, that's in the past. Is countdown similar to Woolworths Australia? Same 'w' sign.
Thanks so much Ray 😊
We did our grocery shop in Hilton and there is only a Spar 😅 so we didn’t really have a choice.
I’m not sure if Countdown is similar to Woolworths Australia 🤔 maybe someone here will know?
Yes, it's Woolworths. They bought out a local chain and kept the name.
Thanks for a brilliant vidclip .... So lekker om die ZA 'accent' te hoor ..... :-) :-) :-) Was Great to compare ..... BUT, what was Seriously missing is the INCOME Comparison ..... :-) :-) :-) So, how many hrs you have to work at the SAME Job to buy the same groceries or pay your rent or litre of petrol. We came to ChCh, NZ in 1996 and have Not regretted it for a second .... The 1st year was absolutely Difficult .... Let's be honest here!!!! A Breeze thereafter.... We lost 2/3 of what we had to get to NZ in '96, BUT in 5 years we made it All Back PLUS ..... Retired now, have been back to ZA 4 times, last about 4 years ago..... Was super difficult in respect to Crime and 'Feeling Safe' ..... Groot Groete aan Almal, Cheers vanuit ChCh, NZ
Hi Keith! Thanks so much for watching and sharing your experience 😊
No crime in NZ while it's everywhere in SA?? I've been back here in Jhb, no crime last twelve months ..
Where’s Thoko the Charlady? The comparison?
McDonald’s SA changed their sizes. Medium became regular, large became medium and they introduced a bigger size as large.
That's because they were embarrassed that Eben Etzebeth always had to order two or three meals whenever he came in?
@@TheClunkingFist 😅
Really enjoyed the video
That sushi looks awesome 🍣🍥😁👌
Thanks Angie 😊
Thanks for the video!! Please let me know which Immigration Agency you used?
Thanks for watching:) we didn’t use an agent
In case you want to use this to make any serious comparisons...
Looking at a country's cost of living e.g. CPI only makes sense in the context of the country's average income.
You also need to get beyond averages, you actually need to look at what you could earn and what you'd pay extra in tax etc. For example, as a professional software engineer you might get 2x-4x the salary in Germany over SA, your cost of living would at least double and your taxes would increase greatly to pay for things like healthcare (which you won't immediately be able to take advantage of).
Lots of people leaving SA get the math wrong and are surprised how they don't feel that salary increase. A potentially smart might be a financial immigration if you can work remotely before a physical immigration.
Exactly...it's all in vain lol 😆
Also, dark blue lid on milk is full cream, light blue is low fat.
Thanks 😅🙏
Income to expenses is relevant to the country itself. You can't compare a beer in NZ to a beer in SA by simply converting it to Rand; you would only do this if it were for holiday purposes. You have to also convert the monthly wages/salary of NZ to Rand. Example. Average accountant salary NZ (2023) = $85,000 NZ or R 1,004,700 at 11.82 Rands to the NZ Dollar; Compared to average RSA accountant salary (2023) = R 420,000 or $ 35,533 NZ. That's a $ 49,467 NZ difference annually.
So if we take the cost of a beer in NZ in relation to the average monthly income compared to SA (Gross salaries):
$ 85,000 / 12 Months = $ 7,083
R 420,000 / 12 Months = R 35,000
1 Beer = $ 14 or 0.2% of your income (NZ)
1 Beer = R 40 or 0.11% of your income (SA)
Therefore, beer in NZ is more expensive relative to income.
Another example: Rent in SA for 2 bedroom flat/townhouse in okay'ish area = R 7,500 on a R 35,000 salary, which equates to 21% of income.
Private medical in SA is very high for basic coverage compared to our income. i.e. R 4,500 on a R 35,000 salary = 13% of Income
NZ taxes paid actually gets used for infrastructure / services / public safety etc.
SA taxes paid is used for own personal gain by the government. Public healthcare is sickening once you do the research (had to provide our own pillows and bed sheets for my grandfather when he was submitted to state hospital in the Free state / Had to bath him ourselves; they left him lying in his own bowl movements until my uncle walked him out of the Hospital in his arms and let him pass away with dignity at his house)
We have constant loadshedding and SA is losing close to R 900,000,000 per day in its economy as a result. The SOE that provides the electricity is roughly R 400 Billion Rand in debt (stolen from tax payers) of which the consumer has to make up for in price hikes bi-annually, while loadshedding increases.
We have to barricade our homes with barbed wire, steel fencing, cameras and self-defense weapons.
We do however have the most beautiful country; diverse in wildlife and culture, friendly people, amazing scenery.
So yes, lifestyle here is great, however, if you can afford it, and if you know how to stay safe.
The majority of the country cannot afford holidays to the coast or the bushveld, they live in absolute poverty and don't have a basic education or income.
Like I said, it's all relevant to each Country as some things are cheaper in one country but more expensive in the next.
One country has an amazing lifestyle should you be able to afford it but insane crime and corruption.
The next country has great lifestyle and very little crime, corruption or unemployment.
Do I want to leave my country...NO
Should I leave my country for the sake of my new baby boy...perhaps
To each his own, but I am very happy for you guys and it looks as though you are happy yourselves.
Congrats on the move
So we pay about the same for fuel? And it seems like the electricity was also about the same, what is the unit price? Electricity will go up again. Price on some of the meat wasn't too bad.
The "medium" in South Africa is actually what used to be large but they shifted up the sizes . If you want actual medium, you need to order the regular
Lived in NZ for 5 years I spent R700000 on rent mind you for just a tiny bedroom paid R400 p/w on rent in the mission bay area ...cost of living is insane in NZ you basically earn hand to mouth ...if I in S.A I would have a house right now,I left NZ for good reason is immigrates work yet the money goes back to the country...you hardly save
Wow!! Can’t believe it 😳 where do you live now?
@@BeingBedingfield relocated back to South Africa
@@tshegofatsomokonoto6409 yeah heard most of South African teachers and nurses head back to South africa from ENGLAND due to the high cost of living
@@tshegofatsomokonoto6409 And are you earning much more than what you earned in NZ? What is your rent like in SA? Are you paying much less for food and have you saved a lot of money in SA since you went back?
Just interested to know because I earn a very good salary in NZ. I do have more than enough money left to deposit every second week in my savings account. I paid my car off within one year. My water bill is less than$60 every 4th month. I live in a modern, big flat.
@@Mathilda5xp yes I have saved and have more money here rather then getting paid in R12000 weekly to spend it on bills in NZ...now I live in a beautiful place well furnished and make more money then in NZ and more opportunities,life abroad doesn't entice me any longer coz the money goes back to the country you reside in...life is affordable back in S.A honestly
(new zealand)The adult minimum wage is now $23.15 per hour, effective 1 April 2024. The training and starting-out minimum wages have also increased to $18.52 from the previous rate of $18.16 per hour, which is 80% of the adult minimum wage.
Interesting fact, SPAR originally comes from the Netherlands and was originally called Desspar
One thing I know about Alcohol is that it costs a fortune overseas, especially international brands w.r.t to the specific country. i.e Imported beers were ridiculous in Japan, but their local beers were priced reasonably. But the most expensive and only beer(Stella Artois) I've ever purchased in America was 15USD for a 330ml bottle, I was like daaamn Vegas! This was in 2016, that same beer is probably $20 now with inflation and all. New Zealand looks like a nice place, and at least fuel price is similar.
Luckily the craft beers in the shops here are a lot more affordable than at the pub 😅
I think our favourite country for beer is Prague…and it was so cheap as well 🍻
My daughter has been living in Hamilton for almost 10 years and she doesn't pay for water.
She’s lucky! I think it depends from place to place…we’ve even had a few rentals in South Africa where we had to pay the water bill
Financial costs or costs to freedom ? because my freedom is priceless . Apparently not so much for those in NZ
Bottom line though is that after living in NZ for 30 years I have not once feared for my life. Heck, I haven't even needed to shoot anyone!
The real thing to compare is n Durban Mutton Bunny vs NZ one . Tell us please
Hehe, when we find a place that sells bunnies we’ll definitely give it a try 😅
Cool content ! :) The difference is scary. The US is even worse than NZ. Seems absurd that a currency switch should have such drastic implications to translative buying power, especially since these days the world is a global village. SA has its problems, but so does any/every other country. And its actually counter-intuitive when you think about it: you'd think a country with weaker currency would be more expensive to live in - and yet it's actually the other way around.... until hyper inflation kicks in. A "big mac" for instance, should cost the same in terms of converted value for money, regardless where you are in the world. It's a tough one, because enforcing one world currency has massive drawbacks as well. But either way, it's really nonsense. Why should the average American or Australian have this edge over a South African when touring the world, for doing the same amount of work back home, or having the same skills? What's worse, the Rand continues to depreciate at an alarming rate on a nearly daily basis. One more thing: It's all fair and well to say that cost of living here is lower than these other countries, but with inflation the way it is, things have still become very expensive for South Africans who are earning Rands. I used to shop at Woolworths regularly for the premium quality you get there. Can't do that anymore... have to shop around and cherry pick way more cautiously these days
How do wages compare though
Salaries are higher in NZ, minimum wage is about $22 an hour.