J-22 "Saturday Night Special" Collection
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- A collection of J-22
J-22 Jennings Firearms -- Industry, CA (1978 -- 19??)
J-22 Jennings Firearms -- Chino, CA (19?? -- 1985)
J-22 Calwestco ('Jennings Only' Slide) -- Chino, CA (1985 -- 19??)
J-22 Calwestco ('Jennings by Calwestco' Slide) -- Chino, CA (19?? -- 19??)
J-22 Calwestco -- Chino, CA (Slide Safety, Black Checkered Grip) (19?? -- 19??)
J-22 Calwestco -- Irvine, CA (Switch Safety, Non-Checkered Grip) (?? -- 19??)
J-22 Calwestco - ('Calwestco Only' Slide) Irvine, CA (19?? -- 1989)
J-22 Bryco Arms ('Jennings by Calwestco' Slide) -- Irvine, CA (1988 -- 19??)
J-22-CA Bryco Arms ('Bryco Only' Slide) -- Costa Mesa, CA (Switch Safety, Non-Checkered Grip) (19?? -- 2004)
JA-22 Jimenez Arms - Costa Mesa, CA
JA-22 Jimenez Arms - Henderson, NV (20?? -- 20??) - still need this one
JA-22 Jimenez Arms - Las Vegas, NV (20?? -- today)
HP-22 Phoenix Arms - Ontario, CA
SP-22 Sedco Industries - Lake Elsinore, CA
We did some research on a fascinating part of U.S. firearms history, the small, low caliber, inexpensive pistols made by manufacturers in the Los Angeles area who were given the nickname, the "Ring of Fire" companies.
Raven, Jennings, Davis, AMT, Bryco, Lorcin, Phoenix, Cobra and Jimenez are linked in various complex ways to each other through family, business practice or firearm design.
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No matter how you feel about the guns, the people and companies who built them, the lawsuits and regulation that shaped the industry, the people who bought and use these low end guns, or any other facet of this story.. you'll find new ways to look at these cheap little guns
Explore the history of circumstances that created the market demand for these Saturday Night Specials (made in the US)
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Who Decides what has a "Sporting Use"?
Defending the "Saturday Night Special" is Defending the right to own a "non-sporting" firearm
"Ring of Fire" Saturday Night Specials
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Thank you for the historical lesson & view of the collection. This was sorta like watching another episode of 'Forgotten Weapons' with Ian.
I remember my dad always carried a little 32 anytime we would go into DC or NYC. I always had a fondness for these cheap firearms. I feel these guns played a huge roll in the great budget firearms of today.
Raven P-25, had since early 70's, still works great. my pocket popper for decades. too simple to fail.
The Phoenix arms hp22a is a great little pistol. I have 2 in my collection. they are reliable & fun for the whole family.
Thank you for all the videos! I am now obsessed with Saturday night specials 😂 and all the mini guys
right on
The Jennings’s j22 is a terrifically fun little plinking 22, I have used them since there introduction, and if you experience any problems, all I have ever had to do is replace the 3 springs, ( action, striker and magazine) and they come back to life.
Thought I was the only one that collected these!
Great video, what makes me love these guns so much is that the anti-gunners despise them.
93CAMAROZ28 probably my favorite reply on TH-cam. It's just random enough to be relevant, yet at the same time hilarious.
Charles Mazza I know right! Lmao
Dims blame guns for what ADDICTIONS actually cause... but Dims love and protect their addictions...
I liked my tiny nickle plated Jennings .380 but damned crazy murderous junkies broke in and stole it...
It had flip up/dpwn safety...
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Don't forget the fudds
Enjoyed the Video and your collection. I bought a 'Bryco 59' .380 in 1994 and the smaller Ladies Version for my wife. Our Friday night date was Dinner followed by some time at the Gun Range, then back home to break them down and clean our weapons. I've never had a FTE and I never had a FTF until my gun sat for 20 years without being fired.
I broke it down, polished the feed ramp with some 1000 grit sand paper, cleaned and oiled it... and no FTF problems since. My Gun is stamped Bryco 59 .380 Auto on one side and Jennings Firearms by Bryco Arms, Irvine CA USA. It may not be the best quality handgun however, if you polish the feed ramp, keep them clean and oiled... they make a good night stand gun.
Quite a collection there!People like to hate on the raven, but I love mine! Good little gun.
Sterling Arms made a good little .22, .25 & .380; i wonder if you have any of those.
Wonderful video (along with your other contributions on this topic) - a perfect encapsulation of why people want to collect (or should want to collect) anything. Kudos on your work.
A Decade old, yet still relevant information. 👍
thank you
I learn something new every day from your channel.The j22's my not be the most reliable but fun to shoot and fun to collect.Its a great hobby.
Looks like the door prizes at a pimp convention lol. I want to get another Jennings J-22. My grandfather's was stolen unfortunately. I loved the little thing. That is a really nice collection and great video. The store of the companies was cool.
that is interesting, how do you get in the car? from your phone or are you just downloading the audio?
I wonder if we should offer the longer shows as audio files so people could do that?
Dam I still love looking at this video after watching it so many times
I remember being a kid and all of my aunt's at the family functions carrying these. My grandma and all of her friends had them. A few of my older uncle's kept them in the car.
I remember seeing more Jennings Saturday night specials than any other gun. My dad had a few thrown in with his knife collection.
Now, you can't find these things anymore. I wish I could have lived during the days of 80$ handguns. It's all a piece of gun history now.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane! That was my first handgun circa about 1983/4. An ex-girlfriend made off with it and I wish I still had it. As long as I put Stingers and the like in it, it shot every round, and reasonably straight.
I picked up my amt in a package deal $750 got me the amt, s&w model 10-6, s&w 342pd airweight 2" (1 7/8"), beretta 21a bobcat .22lr, a ton of ammo, holsters, speedloaders, extra mags. I think one thing I picked up from watching you guys is to keep an eye out for a good find. Once again keep up the good work gwebs. Ps live chat=great stuff, its my gun talk radio in my car ...
I have one of the 2nd model, just like the chrome one from Chino. I did not realize it was such an early model. Great video I like my Saturday Night Special even more now that I know the history. I feel lucky to have an early model.
NICE COLLECTION........MY HERO
Interesting. I bought mine new in Teflon black. It is a Chino type originally with (fragile) checkered grips. It has the later type grooved grips on now. Even though the safety iis different between Bryco and Chino the new grips work well. I drilled a 1/16" hole in the butt and sunk pins in the frame to provide an additional anchor point for the grips. No problems.
The reason for the Calwestco markings was part of the shell company game Bruce played when he was afraid that he would lose his licence to manufacture firearms because of a potential felony spousal abuse charge after the POS broke his wife's jaw, Christmas 84. He waited out the heat and set up Bryco in NV and when it died down, Bryco came back and took over Calwestco. That one extra stamping was about all there was to Calwestoco. Bruce was finally taken in in 2013 for distribution of child porn.
Good to hear !!
Very informative thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
That is an awesome collection
Thank you, it took a while
Nice collection! Cute but deadly. Now I've gotta go find your other video about these. Thanks for this! :)
I have one just like center bottom and i love it. Fun to shoot and it rarely jams. Think my dad bought for 50 bucks years ago.
Nice collection you have.
Excellent video, G-Webs !!!
still cleaning them but haven't been to the range with all of them yet
I like 22 handguns yet i dont own any. I need to get started. I think the reliability factor always holds me back.
I love having a piece of history! I got a phoenix arms hp22a just to have it 😂 I think I payed under $200 for it brand new. I take it out to my backyard every now and then to plink through some old soda cans. Unexpectedly, it’s been one of the more reliable firearms that I have…? Somehow? It functions so well and I’ve only had ONE feeding issue through at least 1k rounds. Didn’t expect that at all considering how cheaply it’s made!
i was able to buy an original raven cal.25 here in the Philippines sometime in the early 1990's and i regret having sold it due to some money problems back then. I surely would like to buy it back again if only i could find the person who bought it from the gunshop where i sold it 😟i am now 62 and i feel this raven cal.25 is the most suitable & shootable for my hand.
I have a westco one that shoots ANY high velocity ammo I put in the mag,even old tarnished rounds.Neighbor said it jammed 4 times with 4 mags thru it.I polished the feed ramp,used Teflon oil,"Runs like a Deer"
Where'd you put the Teflon oil
My dad and I had several of these over the years. My favorite feature of the Jennings was the three-round burst capability it gained after putting a couple of boxes of cheap ammo through it.
I love my phoenix arms p-25's, my j-22's are great as long as I only shoot stingers from them. I never have any issues with my p-25's.
Sweet video and collection of ROF guns. : )
nice collection.
Cool, since then I acquired one, but good to know others are out there for other collectors
You have a rare pistol there !
I just realized the Jennings I have is one of the rare ones, My only difference is that it's black but there's no pirate or fencer on the slide and it's from Irvine Cali. I can't find any info other than this video, Can you tell me more?
as for amo i heard that cci stingers or maxi mags work best in these as they provide more pressure to operate the slide. with the exception of the modern Phoenix arms which work best with standard amo.
Beautiful collection and excellent presentation. Liked & subbed.
Great Video! I've got a Davis industries 32 auto Derringer, D32. A lot of fun, except it won't eject Aquila ammo without the use of a screwdriver and has kinda come apart when shooting at the range.
LOL well played !!
Nice collection 👍🏼
Yup, there are not many of those, I like that set up
what?!? I thought we blocked you in the last video
:P
Excellent video... I personally do not care for these firearms but you are correct in saying that they do have a place, historically speaking...
I will testify, I fired an old model of the j22 just a few months ago that I bought off a guy as a pawn for $50. after it was mine, i realized why he didnt want it back. One day firing, I was target shooting with the neat little gun, and the plastic piece in the back that held the firing pin and the slide, Flew out towards my eye and nearly blinded me. Wish that I had done more research than I did before hand.
This is a true story.
They all are made primarily of a zinc alloy called Zamac, same used on the door handles, window crancks, etc. of vehicles. Can't think how many rounds they would last before clacking loose for good.
Interesting collection gunwebsites I always learn some thing every day when it comes to yur channel man funny thing is I live near those city's those pocket pistols were made here in ca who cares what people think what ever floats yur boat man a lot people like all types of fire arms it's all the gun community that's what's it's really all about much respect for u ..
Actually I was surprised too that my HP22A was made in Ontario! Who knew there had been a factory in Costa Mesa though? That's cool.
It's really sad seeing those guns and realizing how much free-er the nation was. No waiting period and no background check. I love Saturday Night Specials, what a cool collection! I dig the history, and was glad to buy an HP22a to support them a little.
yea, thats kind of the way I figured, I keep them nice because they are worth something, but then they never get shot.. so if they aren't collectible or real old, why not pass them along and get more fun stuff
very cool collection.
I love these guns
i would love to have a collection of all them little odball 70s-80s guns, i would never trust my life to one but still makes interesting collections, more so when we have someone like gwebs to give us all this info on them!
About 20 years ago I found one of these pistols on my way to school. I hid it in a storm drain to get on the way home. Showed it to my father when he came home and wisely we turned it into the police.
u sir, have successfully made me want to look into starting a collection similar to yours simply because of the cool factor and to buy california manufactured arms since im a californian. but our gun laws still blows :[ awesome vid none the less
they are all MINE !!!!
do you know of any good detail strip videos for the calwestco chino J-22's with the slide safety? I picked up one for super cheap that was missing the extractor/spring/pin.
awesome video
Cool I have the chrome/woodgrain that says calwestco and the serial # on the back
Paul Hawkins nice, I hardly ever find those
all but a couple work fine
so, the gun that cost $50 ~ $70 in 1970 is broken 42 years later in 2012.. so it's "junk" ?
Bought a Phoenix in .25 caliber as a curiosity at a gun show. Two magazines! Of course one of the magazines had a spring compressed about halfway up the housing and made it impossible to load more than 3 rounds. After about 2-3 times at the range, the finish wore off and the slide spring lost so much tension that it failed to strip a cartridge from the magazine.
Believe it or not, I emailed the company, had my FFL mail it to them and instead of repair, they sent me another new gun back! My guess is these were so cheap to manufacture that they still made money on them...
I recently picked up a Jennings J-22 by Calwestco (Chino, CA, USA), in the nickel finish with wood grips, switch safety, and the serial number (51xxxx) stamped on the backstrap. After watching your video, it seems like it fits between some of the models you have in your collection, with the different location of the serial number and safety selector. I've been trying to put an approximate year to it. Any thoughts?
there also was some small revolvers that were made possibly at the same time, i believe
i had seen a davis indusries that was marked "chino CA"?
I recently picked up an AMT Backup .380, A bit crude but def. an interesting firearm. A real pain to strip.
So the sedco is the ONLY ONE that is independently designed? you said it is only in the collection "only because of it's involvement in the family" but not due to technical reasons?
+sovietroulette not really, since that design was so similar they were sued and lost over it.. they didnt have any original Jennings family involved
Very cool video. I want to see a range video where you load them all and fire them consecutively at a target.
Interesting video as I own one of these, but either they started making the new type of vertical safety slide while still at Chino, CA factory or they were using left over pre-stamped parts at the new factory, because my J-22 looks exactly like 3:00 position wood grip pistols in your video, and it is marked Calwestco Chino CA, but it has the up and down safety slide, not the sideways slide that you mentioned came along when they changed factories.
g webs where in tucson can i find a j22?
NOW FOR THE BIG QUESTION!!! Do they all work?
i have a Jennings j-22 .22lr and it says calwestco irvine .co.USA and it has the flip safety with wood grips.. ever seen one?
Are you selling it? i cant find it anywere, please reply!!!
What is the family doing now? Are they still in business?
I want to buy one of those and just plink around with it. I dont really car how reliable it is. It looks like fun
i have a jennings j22 marked industry california usa with a serial number lower than 000150 chrome with the black checkered grips that shoots anything i feed it
I think you got the better part of the deal!
What better place to manufacture Saturday Night Specials than Las Vegas, NV. 🤣
I wouldn't mind having those last four pistols.
how does the Phoenix Arms compare to the original Raven?
+Don Wolfberg very little, only because it's made by same family
GunWebsites Is George Jennings still involved in the company? How would you compare the shooting between the two ?
Hey, I once had a 100 year old M1907 Dreyse pistol that I would NEVER recommend for anyone but a masochistic master gunsmith to disassemble.
That piece, sometimes referred to as a "disassembly" button is a weak point in all guns of this design. I've seen MAB pistols where a similar piece, slides out of its press fitting on the frame. The slamming of slide and compression of firing pin spring tends to overstress this area.This is observed not only in Jennings, but all guns of similar design.
I have one bought brand new in 1986 never been fired still all original packaging
that would be cool, please do make a video
5:59 "inherently unreliable" -- 9:25 " cheap junk guns" oh oh - this is why I would rather buy a cheap reliable GR revolver rather than a cheap "unreliable" "junk" pistol. I liked your video, nice looking collection and the company history was interesting.
and nearly cost me an eye, yes.
@gwebs I think a downloadable mp3 "episode" would be nice, then i dont have to worry about "buffering", dead zones, data usage, and the audio quality would be better. (not to say its bad but youtube does have its limits). like I said when im in my car stuck in NY traffic aint nothing like throwing on some gun talk radio by gwebs.
I love my Jennings, As long as you lube them and keep them clean, Plus use hotter .22 ammo, They'll be able to get through 2 or 3 mags without an issue.
That's NOT a "pirate". It's a _fencer,_ a duelist.
oh, you are right, thanks
Some call it "The Swashbuckler" . The "Swashbuckler" stamp adds to the gun's cool factor,especially in chrome.
Cool
very large collection of paper weights
Daniel Allen
Who cares if they are paperweights. Cool collection and the guy likes them. I like them too.
***** yeah then they jam after one shot
+Daniel Allen Have you owned one or are you an arm chair keyboard critic?
+Plymouth roadrunner I actually don't have as many as him but I have three and two are not worth the money and the 22lr shot fine after taking apart and polishing the hell out of the slide.
Trying to figure out how to take the slide off for cleaning... my father gave me one
watch a video of it to be more clear
once it is not loaded (empty) push in on the rear of the slide, that key-way looking part will push in, once it moves forward enough to clear the channel it rides in, the whole slide will raise from the frame as two parts
@@GunWebsites thanks for your response, I was however able to find a breakdown video
i bet
that company has been through some shit. but very interesting video I'll have to keep an eye out for these little pistols. how much $$$$????
Juan Lopez you can find them under $100
which one is the most reliable?
prolly the old one
25’s a little more reliable than 22’s. Old ones very stable, Once new JA’s have about 200 or 300 rounds their more reliable if cleaned and lubed often, make sure you use High velocity non hp or match grade ammunition, a slightly polished ejector on the barrel and feed ramp increase reliability, until mags are more stable to clear the round or feed ramp angles changed.
I'm interested in Saturday Specials
they are cool, but made of Stainless Steel, and much better made than these
But somehow they are still labeled a "Sat Nite Spl" (mainly because gun haters can't be bothered to know anything about guns)
I want to get one, but since they are nicer than these they cost as much as 'normal' guns so it might be a while till I find one at a low enough price to add one to the collection