Ike Gauntlet: Does The New 2023 Chevrolet Colorado Kill OR Fail the World's Toughest Towing Test?
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It would be interesting to see what those trans and oil temps do when it gets hot outside!
The way GM thermostats seem to work on the trannies, I think it would stay the same. No reason they should use thermostats set that high though.
The same thing it just did - heat up oil but maintain a good operating temperature. There was no overheating seen here. That’s full synthetic oil by the way, there _is_ a difference.
@@G-Rated I wonder what the ideal temp is. I’d think close to 100. I wouldn’t see a disadvantage to being cooler (above at least 100 or so.
@@aerynlovell4754 Most turbo engines have minimal lag. Mine is a 4cyl and there's hardly any and I tow. I'm confused on your description of the turbo setup and believe you have it wrong.
@Kenneth O A supercharger is connected to the engine and therefore has ZERO LAG. You just said with a small turbo it has HARDLY ANY LAG. You seem to be confused because "hardly any" isn't the same as NO LAG. And if you work on your reading comprehension, you would know my biggest issue with turbos is the excessive amount of tubing (compared to a supercharger) and because it is connected to the exhaust the heat from the exhaust is transferred to the turbo then to the intake air. Any discussion about turbos vs. superchargers talks about parasitic loss from the supercharger vs. turbo lag and heat transfer from turbos.
"I'm not using cruise control today", or any other day.
Tfl can't use cruise control because he forgot to select it when he ordered his truck
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@@goldblueberries326 that is the joke..
Brutal 😬
Thanks Andrey for being a good sport over new truck quirks
Automotive Inquiry just put out a really good series comparing the Chevy 6.6 gasser with the Ford Godzilla, pulling about 15k. He showed on video the difference between using cruise control and not using it while going down hill. No surprise, cruise control maintained speed while not using cruise control allowed the trucks to speed up.
The idea that people don't use cruise control while towing, comes from years gone by when cruise control systems were truly terrible. Nowadays things have changed, and if you want to properly test vehicles, you should test them for things they've been designed for.
Trans temps were concerning. Since traffic caused you to end the test early, suggest doing the test again - in August.
It’s snowing outside and the transmission was almost overheating. I really want to see this when it’s 85f outside
I towed a car trailer and car through the Sierra Nevadas, weighed in at 7500lbs, in 110F with my 2018 Colorado LT 3.6 and transmission temps never went above 180F. I regret selling that truck in hope that this generation would be better. That 2.7L 4 cyclinder engines are having a lot of problems on the Silverados. Im gonna pass on the 2023 trucks and look for a used 3.6L ZR2 Colorado. Naturally aspirated engines will always be more reliable than force induction.
Gm transmissions suck they always overheat on the tests
Way to take one for the team André and your trip performed like a champ!
@@gravitygabri3l That's one reason I like my Jeep Gladiator: It's got a naturally-aspirated V6 gas (Pentastar).
-- BR
happy to see that Mr. Truck has lost some weight. Good for him.
Thanks, getting the belly slimmed down is the hardest.
@@MrTruckTV Looking lean and mean Mr Truck! You and Andre are an awesome duo! I watch all your videos together. Keep up the good work brother.
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These ike's with Mr. Truck and Mr. Truck JR are my favorites. Not only are they entertaining but these is really a practical test of any truck and this test is sooooo good because of Andre's scientific approach. I can't over emphasize that enough. He attempts in earnest to keep all of the controllable factors the same. And the banter.... the color of urine :)
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Ike Gauntlet isn't necessarily practical but actually even better, it's a torture test; trucks that do well on it inspire a lot of confidence for the rest of us that won't be pushing our trucks this hard. Otherwise, yes, TFL has a few other tests that are practical, like the mpg loops.
The most important part of the test was the available space for the hats 🤠. Definitely keep an eye on the trans and engine temps, it’s screaming more than a screaming Jimmy.
Head room is a good metric
They should offer the 3.0 turbo diesel. It may not have as much power as the the new Ranger Raptor. But that TQ and the fuel economy would be a big plus. As of right now the 3.0 TD Silverado has the best hwy mileage out of all the full-size offerings. It will allow the Colorado to also claim best hwy mileage as well.
Since the I6 is a tight fit in the full size trucks I'm sure it wouldn't fit under the hood of the smaller mid-size trucks.
it too long for this chassis sadly. maybe in the 2034 refresh.
@@duramaxadventures5832 *2027
Bring back that Mini Max 4 cylinder turbo diesel. Lol
@@duramaxadventures5832 Ya I was going to say that the redesign of the truck doesn't allow the Duramax to fit. As well as the intercooler in the front.
Looking forward to an Ike Gauntlet with the 2024 Ranger 2.7 Ecoboost for comparison.
The ford 2.7 is a beast.
I have that engine in my F150. It towed a car hauler with a pool deck worth of wood no problem.
It will BLOW THIS TRUCK OUT OF THE WATER! I’ve driven both, it’s not even a comparison. A full size 2.7 F150 also gets about 4-5 mpg better on the expressway than this midsize truck with less power.
Andre should've kept his F-150 Powerboost
1:45 "I'm not using cruise control today". Really, you mean to say: "I bought a 2023 truck that didn't come with cruise control"...LOL
Chip shortage
@@jasonpitts8395 he forgot to order it. teh trail boss is literally just a 2 inch lifted WT with fender flares. you have to add options.
He was also going over 60 most of the way up. So it wouldn't be fair for the time either 😅
Chip shortage 😂 my 2021ram1500 classic tradesman comes standard with cruise control 😮
something basically standard from the mid 80's come on chevy
"I'm not using cruise control today..." Hmm why is that Andre? 😉🤣
Trans running hot in the winter, re-run the test with the A/C on in August.
Needs An Auxiliary Transmission Oil Cooler badly!
Definitely not equipped to tow that much in summer 😕
I would love to get one of these trucks, but my Tahoe will be 30 years old in another 7 years and I gotta hit that 30 year mark just for the challenge of it. Besides, it's running great and still looks good. Wish me luck.
You are probably keeping it in great condition
Those old Tahoe’s never die, love them!
Saying 30 in 7 years doesn’t really do anything to make it sound super old. Might as well say “it will be 40 in 17 years. 😂
I would keep that old Tahoe the new chevys are complete junk , nothing but big screens and “fancy” interior meanwhile the motors and transmission have gotten to be trash .
I have a ‘17 Tahoe and love it. I’m driving it until the wheels fall off!
That truck would be perfect with the LZO Duramax... Imagine that prefect combination...!
Really glad i found this video. Been looking at trucks for a long time and been debating getting a full size or mid. The most I'd be hauling is a small car on a trailer and a motorcycle in the bed. This extreme test is definitely convincing me of the capabilities of modern midsize trucks
Mr. Truck is old school, I like that guy. I met him once in Brighton. Super nice guy in real life.
Could not agree more.
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This truck is way nicer than the new ranger.
I agree except the new Ford Ranger Raptor does look better in my opinion and that's coming from a GM guy that only buys GM and will get a gen 3 Colorado Trail Boss
ranger has WAYY better tech avail. lane centering, adaptive that ISN'T an AI camera, park assist, trailer guidance and teh knob, out board shocks, 2.7 TT, 10 speeds, 3.73
its teh better truck but also more $$
@@duramaxadventures5832 Ford will *never* offer “way better tech” than GM. That’ll NEVER be the case, sir.
@@G-Rated lane centering, automatic parking (parallel and perpendicular), adaptive cruise with stop and go (gm uses a camera with AI), Trailer reverse guidance, trailer back up assist, BLIS for trailer, intersection assist (can out maneuver red light runners), evasion steering assist, trail control (off road cruise control) , 360 lighting, trailer navigation, wiper deicer, rain sensing wipers. Matrix projector LED headlights with swivel
2023 Colorado has NONE of those
I don’t know why, but I still think of Andre checking brake temps and speaking in Russian at the bottom of each downhill test 😂
That would be an interesting comparison to bring back though
Andre, I really love the color! Also Mr Truck should probably be drinking more water 😂
@TFL__truck from the urine color comment.
THANKS ANDRE AND MR TRUCK...👏👏👏...HAVE A BEAUTIFUL SATURDAY EVERYBODY ✌️
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Mr. Truck asked you a very tough but honest question and unintentionally the best roast ever. 😂
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Awesome test, exactly what I had hoped for! Mid sized trucks definitely handle loads differently than a full sized. Need to be prepared for it. I would go through brakes every 40,000 miles with my last gen Colorado as I towed at max load a lot.
Mr truck and Andre are the best Ike combo. 2 guy's with CDL's that know how to setup a truck and trailer.
Thank you for the kind words.
You are welcome.
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Curious to see a retest in the dead of summer. Those trans and oil temps were concerning in only 47° weather.
That said, the ride and stability control seemed top notch.
That’s how my 08’ Colorado died, pulling a 4k lb trailer; it blew a rod towing in 100 degree heat
@@RICKY760YIKES!
That would be an "Up in smoke tour".
@@RICKY760 ....The I-5 motors are TERRIBLE! Thats why I waited to find an "Alpha" H3 Hummer and no real mileage penalty with the V8
@@ejgrant5191 yess absolutely! I ended up just getting a ram 1500 v8 to pull the camper safely. Has the tow mirrors, brake controller and power to make it
He said No full throttle but that engine noise inside the truck . good video guys 👍
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Mr Truck roasting Andres truck to his face 🤣😂 great pair for these reviews!
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“Why did you buy a truck the same color as urine?” 😂😂
If your urine looks like that you had better go to the doctor haha. One of my grandpa's friends was cheap although the guy had money. He would go to a Cadillac dealer and pick out the one with the ugliest paint color. Bright pink or Lime Green. He would tell them no one would ever buy it due to the color, and as a favor he would take it off their hands at a reduced price. From what I remember it worked because all his vehicles had the worst color paint on them.
andrew was avoiding the question at all cost
@@jasonpitts8395 that doesn't make much sense. If nobody bought the cars with a specific color, the dealer just wouldn't stock them.
What a duo!
One of the best buddy combos on TFL & another Ike on the books👍
I wonder how cruise control would have changed results 🤔
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You have to remember that the GM 8-speed transmission didn't just have shudder issues in the trucks, but the Camaro and Corvette had TSB service numbers issued also.
It’s concerning that the transmission temp went up that high…and it was probably freezing cold that day.
it was 45°f. if it was 95-100°F outside i’d imagine they’d have to make several stops on the side of the road to let the trans cool down as it was already nearly pegged. that tranny will not live to see 100k.
TFL putting out the great vids..
Good times
Great video. I was surprised that Andre did not use cruise control, as I "thought" that was the norm; but then I remembered that this particular truck does not have it (hope a retro fit is coming soon). I too would love to see the actual transmission and oil temperatures.
A mid size truck towing a nearly 7K lb box up that mountain is pretty impreasive. Period. It's never going to do it with as much ease as a larger truck. I think the transmission mapping could be much better in tow/haul mode but overall, that truck performed fairly well.
I am excited to see the new Ranger and Tacoma in comparison although the Ranger doesnt have a "Trail boss" trim level.
For 75% of the population that needs or wants a truck, the new mid sizers are more than adequate.
Agree 100%. Folks don't realize that 20 years ago a full size truck would've struggled doing the same thing with a V8. Now a turbo 4 makes it look easy.
it will next year. for 2024 tremor is coming back. HOPEFULLY to XLT as well as lariat
It's always great to see Mr Truck in your vids.
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Loved this video, thanks gents.
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pee yellow and sounds like a lawn mower hahahaha! mr truck killing me this morning!
Now, please flash the truck and do the same exact test to compare results. I think that would be interesting for sure. Currently driving an 07 Tacoma with 350k on the clock, looking to possibly pick one of these new colorados up. Would tow a trailer that weighs about 5k pounds
Worked for the dealerships as a tech for the past 22 years. Looking at that oil temp and trans temp that was displayed I wouldn’t count on the longevity of
The trans. Data logging at that point in the temp graph it would suggest the trans was 260 and oil temp was excess of 260.
That thumbnail looks incredible! Prob the best on TH-cam in my opinion.
Time for the tune!
Those high temps shows GM has probably pushed the tuning as far as they can reliably go with this engine. Remember GM only has the 2.7 in all the mid-size trucks. They just change the tuning for more power in the higher trims and options.
Seems like the tow haul mode can use some more tuning. Not downshifting going down hill and then shifting way too often going up hill. If it was my truck I would definitely be controlling the trans manually in big hill situations.
I rented a 2021 with the 5.3 and 8 speed and the be harass the same. It wouldn't downshift going downhill but would drop gears if it smoked there was an uphill section coming up. With tow/haul enabled
Agree
Every automatic gen 3 Tacoma owner flinched reading this.
@@07HDDriver a lot of shifting on those
Yes for your own truck, manual shifting in mountains is a good idea
Great review as always ,,,love the new Colorado ! That is a good sized trailer and did very good. Tow with a new Silverado Trailboss and find cruise control on the down hill will down shift better . About the same weight on the Ike and holds well . Congrats Andre ! And great color ...
I think the color is badass Andre!
Thank you.
That was a great test. I have this engine and 8 speed in my 2022 full size trail boss.
I'm loving that color. I think I might use it for my 81 Toyota starlet project. It too is yellow, but ugly early 80's yellow.
I’m also upset about losing the diesel option, but almost worse than that is the loss of the flat folding rear seat. I use that platform for hauling more than the box. I mean they are already forcing the crew cab on us. 😢
I’m totally with you on that. Slowly being forced into a box
@@gregmoessner3104 Forcing the crew cab/short bed on us in full size, difficult to find the double cab standard bed, guess hauling volume less important to truck buyers. I know, more folks use pickups for everyday car's compared to decades ago.
Yep, so when GM doesn't want to offer those options, time to shop the other guys. ;)
You guys make awesome videos! Keep up the great work.
Good looking truck.
Great review. Really looking something like this and would possibly see a few mountain trips, but mostly flatter towing. I'd roll less weight though. Lighter toy haulers (small one less than 5K) with 2 dirt bikes or maybe to 2 adv bikes (1000K). I would want to stay under way under 6K. Looking at the temps I'd say maybe put that external trans cooler. Will defiantly be watching for more updates.
A lot have said already. Those temps would be a little concerning to me. Great test. It wouldn't be a super Ike without snow in May!
I drove that rode all the time miss Colorado 😢 from Florida with love ❤️
The eight-speed didn't like that at all. It got hot because it couldn't pick a gear and stay in it
There isn’t a transmission in this entire segment that *would like* this test AT ALL.
Mr Truck mercilessly dogging Andre’s truck. 😮
Mr. Trucks noticed the truck has that morning color to it. Nice truck Andre almost a Mountain dew color. They are running transmissions warmer so the temps may have been fine. Great to see Mr. Truck and Andre the videos are great.
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Urine! Ha! 🤣That's what my daughter said when I was looking at the new colors. Love the video, learned so much. Thank you guys! 🛻
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Thanks for mentioning the gas you used!!! I wondered.
towing in L instead of D provides more control over the shifts when towing in the hills. Helps me a lot. especially downhill when the truck wants to hold gears too long.
That engine was screaming like crazy
You need to watch some of their videos where the engines are screaming at 5000+rpm all the way up the hill.
Howdy fellars. I know what it's like to drive I-70 in the mountains is bad weather like that.
SOMEONE finally mentioned the bumper steps were from Avalanche.
I love it. I pull 6500 with my Colorado with a 2.8 duramax and it does quite well. The 2.7 is definitely up to the challenge.
Do you tow in mountains? Or flat land?
I tow on both and I take it easy.
With how expensive trucks are, you'd think they could throw a transmission cooler on there.
You'd think cruise control would be standard too...
Or add a physical light switch
@@WSmith-ne5ks light switch is absolutely unnecessary. I have an entire fleet of trucks for my business. They go on auto once and never get touched again, ever.
@@WSmith-ne5ks add a physical light switch *for what?* There’s already a digital switch and the lights are literally automatic.
This channel is always full of bandwagon comments whenever it’s a GM. They have the most haters always nagging, crying, complaining, and making the biggest deal out of no big deal.
@@robertk1049 lol how do you generalize all trucks and options in the way that you just did as if options and trim levels aren’t a thing? Just because you think trucks generally are “expensive” doesn’t mean they all include a long list of *standard features.* That’s not how this works.
I love a midsize truck but I would probably want a bigger truck with that trailer or get a smaller trailer with that truck. Nevertheless, that was quite impressive. I’m considering trading in my ‘19 Colorado for a ‘23. There’s some nice improvements overall.
You want the first model year of the next generation? Might as well wait for 24's to go on clearance once 25's arrive next year, IMO, or take the plunge now if the itch is that bad.
Mr Truck firing in all 8 cylinders today!! 😂😂. “Why’d you buy a urine coloured truck?” Hahaha!!
This is about what I expected from the Colorado. Maybe we can see if a truck from the press fleet WITH cruise control could manage differently?? Be an interesting experiment. I’m sure the fuel economy will improve with the cruise control. Always does, but I suspect the grade braking would downshift one more time.
The transmission temperatures, I wouldn’t care unless they go too high. Toyota runs em hot as well. Could be an efficiency factor now that they run synthetic oils in them exclusively. Things do change over time. I’m sure we will see the High Output version towing on a hot day to try to cover all the examples. There’s the Canyon as well which GM has chosen to aim at a different demographic than the Colorado. Smart idea to widen the demographics overall for the market.
Nice review and I agree with the rating!! Hard to stay objective when it’s your own vehicle, but Andrey did very well indeed!
Thanks for using your truck Andrey!!
Stay safe, team TFL!!
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How about demonstrating the theft alert feature
I was bit surprised that it seemed to be a bit lethargic getting up to speed and seemed pretty loud getting there. I don't exactly recall how much you towed with the Ranger Tremor, but it seemed to do it easier? I thought this 2.7 would/will be great in this truck. The trans temps on a cold day are a bit bothersome unless GM designed it this way for a reason...... Nice truck overall and definitely on my shopping list.
this was also the mid tier 2.7 option. id like to see what the the high output does. that extra torque would help get it up to speed a touch faster.
It may help to turn the AC on when going down hill. That will suck a few horsepower away from the engine when you are using the engine to to slow down
For the record, I really like the color of Andre’s truck a lot! It looks special
Had a diesel and 3.6 Colorado. Both are Definitely better downhill than the new truck.
Love the video and the truck but those temps are a little bit of a let down
I wonder if the HO calibration has more effective cooling strategy that might solve this issue?
Really interested what the transmission temps would look like on a very hot day. I hate that GM didn't add a trans cooler from the factory.
Yep. Temps were dang near pegged. Come back when it’s 95 degrees.
@@sinister184 they won’t be able to as it’ll be in the shop getting a new tranny..
In warmer weather, it will overheat.
Great result. Really impressive for a mid-size. This is 1/2 ton truck performance from just a few years ago.
This truck has a 3/4 ton payload capacity so it should have at least 1/2 ton performance…
This isn't a Mid size truck. It Is about the size of a Full size truck from years ago. If this was the 1990's a GMC s10 was under 68 inches wide. A Toyota gen 1 pickup was 67 inches. These New Trucks are not small by any means.
Pretty common situation in Australia a midsizer towing a near 7000lb Caravan( travel trailer). As well they are diesels
It was great to see Mr. Truck back onboard for the Ike gauntlet.
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Can’t wait for the 2.7 ranger. That’s gonna be the one to get
So surprised by that engine option. You're 100% right. Why would you get anything else?
@@esteban8681 the 2.3 is just slightly less powerful. Both trucks are rated for the same weight and the 2.3 has priven it can handle max load. The 2.3 is more simple and cheaper to fix and maintain. Also cheaper option to start with.
In a ranger im happy with a 2.3 it does the job well but if you're not working on it a 2.7 would be a little more fun.
In Australia we have a 3.0 twin turbo for the raptor putting out 390hp and it goes like a stabbed rat. It’s faster to accelerate than most cars.
@@paulgerard5413 yaaa most of your diesel utes doing 8-9 0-60 could NEVER sale here in us they consider 7.5 slow for a truck here.
She did surprisingly well for hauling that big of a trailer and being nearly maxxed out. I'm glad Mr. Truck said it was the color of urine - I finally saw a Nitro Yellow Canyon in person and told my wife it looks like when you take a leak after too many vitamins . . . Oh and . . . Nice hat Andre😜
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Great video. I wouldnt want to tow this much weight often with this truck.
I've heard that GM trucks are made to work in conjunction with cruise to use full capability of the towing application. The system is a better manager than your foot. Maybe include some test using the cruise.
Truck was level. 2.5 inch squat is good. Also the trans temp was fine. When trucks run too cool its worse than running where this truck ran. Another thing, adding a extra air to air cooler is good but running the cooler through the radiator is better for heat transfer. Liquid transfers heat better. I knoq your truck doesn't have cruise but if you test one with cruise I'd usd it on the downhill that way the truck will shift to maintain in tow/haul
I appreciate the Ike Gauntlet videos. As far as off-road trailering goes, I’d like to see an off-road test, pulling the Roamer1 (and next size down) on an uphill/downhill two track road and on a section of road that requires an articulating hitch. The goal of the test is to see performance of low end torque and 4wheel abilities under tow.
I was wondering what your transmission temperature is while driving? I have a trail boss as well and my temp is about 205-210 while car is warmed up I’m in Florida
A young girl slammed into the back of my Silverado while she was on her phone. My bumper on the driver side faces down now and I can’t use the bumper step now. You don’t realize how much you use it when you don’t have it. Love the bumper step!
I love the stance of your truck
That is the single handed best way to break in a turbo engine to haul a load like that on hills like you did. My past Dodge Cummins engines got the same treatment and when you shut down overnight and go stone cold you will find the engine a totally different unit in terms of performance and mileage.
Another great morning with Mr. truck and Andre. Mr. truck, striking at the core with his critiques of the color of the truck though.😅
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Hats off for testing your own truck like that, I dont think i could load my brand new barely if at all broke in engine like that
Agree, but it is a business write off in his line of work.
@@larryj8924 Personal purchases are not write offs. Unless he has a channel or home business he is using this for that I don't know about. TFL did not buy it. Whether or not he gets paid $ from Roman behind the scenes for this content is also another discussion. As many have used their personal vehicles for filler content.
He will flip it in less than 3 years, so I whole heartedly hope he abuses the shit out of this thing between now and then. Give a true impression of how the GM can stand up to short term owners that work their vehicles hard. Still waiting for the payload tests that they never seem to do. (hauling gravel, bricks, lumber, etc.) Few press loaners at Davids Ranch got a work out. But that should be included in everything they test. IMO.
Andre...how is the pull from a standing start with that trailer? I noticed the Colorado has a 3.42 rear end and the trail boss comes with 32" tires.
i would never give up my 2018 V6 colorado for the new one i have real leather and both front seats are powered with lumbar and my gps WORKS WITH OUT A SUBSCRIPTION
I would love to know why GM didn't use the 10 speed, like the ranger?
Question: is the Trail Boss and Z71 the same width? I heard mentioned the chassis is wider on the Trail Boss, but is that in reality just wider tires and different wheel offset?
Andre dedicated his new truck for TFL truck content. Talk about dedication
THIS is what i have been waiting for i have a ZR2 on order!
ZR2 has lower towing capacity than this truck, thats part of the reason I just got the AT4 instead.
@@mattyice6521 i know but same powertrain. and my loaded AT4 build was only $150 cheaper than my loaded ZR2 build. i tow off road so the G80 can actually make the tongue squat just when you dont want it to the most.
AND AT4 doesn't have a full off mode for off road that ZR2/AT4X exclusive.
Transtex oil camps and cooler temps are very important but I think the most important temperature is your EGT exhaust gas temperature if you're hauling a Max load full throttle uphill at thirteen to fifteen hundred degrees you can start melting down your Pistons it would be interesting if you would show the egts on the banks I dash
I like the color of your truck, Andre.
Does Mr Truck recommend putting the aux trans cooler before the radiator or after? Seems like keeping the heat out of the radiator would be good.
My F150 with 3.5 Ecoboost has a similar mpg rating, but a 36 gallon tank. Tank size is part of the reason I didn't buy a mid-size.
In front of the radiator
nice bed liner
Did I miss it what is the tongue weight/hitch weight? I can’t find that number anywhere for some reason.
I’d love to see the TFL ranger do the same run with the same trailer for comparison sake