Did Razer Just Ripoff The GoXLR??
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Razer just released their Audio Mixer for gamers and streamers which.. looks a lot like the GoXLR Mini. Is it any better?
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03:05 - Lets Unbox This Boi
04:45 - Inputs and Outputs and Buttons (oh my)
05:43 - Size Comparison
08:30 - Oh Look, It's Tomorrow
08:35 - Let's Dive Into Using The Software
16:55 - Audio Test Against Elgato WaveXLR
17:33 - One Big Disappointment
18:18 - Final Thoughts
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Description tags, yo: Razer, TC Helicon, Mic, Microphone, XLR, Shure SM7B, Interface
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What Mic/Audio system are you using right now on your stream? What features do you wish it had?
Pod mic with goxlr mini
I'm a high school student in new Zealand and I'm saving up for a better mic because they are very expensive to get here my current one is a cheap one of Amazon but it sounds all right after following your guide to reaper plugins video thanks for the help 😊
at2020 plus umc22 but this razer mixer sounds pretty dang good
Sorry if I missed it but have you opened it to see if it’s tc helicon hardware inside?
I use a "professional" USB mic. It's the Maono USB Mic, sounds pretty good, I love it.
Thanks for the timestamp at 8:30 to 8:35. I would have been totally lost without that.
Nutty going for the throat
Nutty skipping the passive aggressive and going straight active aggressive
Last time I came this early I became a father. Nice video :)
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I'll stick to my full GOXLR. Imo it is still a solid piece of kit. The only time I had an issue with it was when I first got it and the bugs got fixed quickly and TC Helicon Support was great.
Well if you already have a GOXLR, then there is truly no point of replacing it if it isn't broken
Same. I have Full GoXLR with the SM7B. I had an issue with mine where I put custom text on the LCD screen that was too long and it literally flipped the image and inverted the background color by itself. Super annoying and then long story short, it messed up more stuff when trying to fix it. I turned off the GoXLR and turned it back on(I turned my surge protector off/on) and it fixed it once I powered GoXLR + PC.
There’s another issue I had which is my cell antenna in my iPhone XR, when next to the GoXLR or any other cable, it would make a constant buzzing thumping sound. Example, I put my phone touching the GoXLR and then tap the screen to wake it up, it would make a very loud 4x thumping sound, after it would make a constant buzzing thumping sound but not as loud. Figured out the problem was my cell antenna in the phone was the issue and that turning off the phone obviously fixed it or turning on Airplane Mode which disabled the cell antenna in it and it stopped that way too.
@@JoosepSilm exactly and TC Helicon are working on sub mixes too
Adding this as a helpful tip since it was a point of contention: you can go into Effects and set separate profiles for various effects settings (monster, Gollum, clown) and then save a combo keypress for each profile. Triggering the effects that way is immediate, no losing that moment. And, you get many versions.
This vid has three wardrobe changes 😂 the thumbnail, start and middle. Movie magic at its finest 😂😂
i like the review even more that i'm looking for one of those mixer and i think it would be great to see those review with also cheaper mic like a lot of small streamer probably buy when they begin streaming just to see how good the audio processing is. anyways, your video are always good help when i'm looking for tech stuff
Presonus Revelator io24 is much better than this for less money imo
I think the key shifting and the vocal fader could be used in some edge cases. Like using a radio or some other audio device as line in for karaoke or something? I dunno. But, maybe!
For that price, you'd have expected some proper good QA but that just seems to not happen and seems to be a regular occurrence now with Razer's software. Plus considering there is better and cheaper alternatives it doesn't bode well
Sm7b, into Scarlett 4i4, then into Reaper. I use "Loopback" to get apps/programs onto individual tracks into Reaper, and also to get to Reaper audio out to OBS. The routing options are endless. Don't think I could ask for more at the moment, but that always changes ;) Thanks for everything Harris!
How did you set this up??
@@BudWilson13 Loopback is a “virtual interface” Within its software, you can decide what programs you want it to look for. Then in Reaper, select what you have created in Loopback, as your interface. This will allow you to create tracks, and decide what program or whatever you would like to have on each one. In Loopback I also create a virtual device called “OBS output”. This will add a secondary virtual stereo output, that you can send a custom mix to. In OBS, set mic/input to “OBS output”. I hope some of that helped, what a messy description, haha. Let me know if you need me to clarify :)
I noticed that the voice changer settings might be able to be mapped as a macro for other Razer devices. Not saying it would work that way, but certainly easier than holding the mute button for two seconds.
By the way, bought the BEACN Mix Create solely on your videos about it. Never been happier.
You get the ground loop because rca cables aren’t shielded, if you are running longer cords use a di box to change them to xlr shielded.
i love my AVermedia Live Streamer nexus for the Audience Mix that is under Line Out under Settings then Output Defaults to Audience Mix but there is also Chat Mic or Creator Mx i keep it on Audience Mix
If this had hold and toggle mute on the microphone channel it would open up the voice effects to have its own dedicated button, maybe 2-3 small buttons so it's not as clunky, added more voice effects, integrated submixes, and cleaned up the software a bit for more customizability, this would've been a 10/10 product especially due to its more compact design.
I was wondering if you can do and in depth tutorial on building an dual system pc. I noticed you built one exactly how I’m trying to build mines. One thing I really need help is post build getting all sound and everything to work with both systems. Gaming and streaming.
Great video as always and totally agree, can't justify switching from my full size GoXlr just to get that, as cool as it is.
Optical can be used on your pc if your motherboard has one. Helps save usb slots
Thank you for the video and my question is does it work for iPhone live TikTok any tips!!
I feel like the GoXLR is what everyone keeps going back to compare new gear. And there are some that come close or better for specific cases, but the fact that we keep comparing to something that is no longer “new”.
Looking forward to what’s to come in the next year or two, I have a feeling a new champion might be coming.
They should really make their "new" devices better than "old" stuff
If something that IS new cannot match or beat something that "is no longer new" then that says enough.
if Astro was never bought by Logitech, they probably would have released a dope mixer. The astro mixamp was/is already used by tons of creators due to its capabilities. With these new products, its been passed up very quickly and looks so outdated now.
I’d say that it’s because the creators of the GoXLR set the bar pretty damn high, and no one has been able to beat it.
There is not much choice if there isn’t many other options out there that’s as close to this as the GoXLR. Plus you always want to compete against the superstars to see if they’ve outshined the old and most of the time they don’t. Which is why he’s even using a Shure SM7B, a 21 year old bad ass
Interesting comparison. But please, mute your background music when recording different interfaces, it's almost impossible to determine a difference in quality when you have the music running in the background.
I have the GOXLR and Rode Procaster. Love the sound quality of it but if I had to decide between the beacon set up you displayed before and this one…. I’d go beacon
lot's of mobo's include optical so you can use it to split game voice really nicely! one of the reason's I used the Astro Mixamp for so long but I have since moved on to nicer headphones.
This feels like a really great starting point for this device. The bones and guts are definitely note worthy. I think that once Razer watches all these reviews they can make all the adjustments in Synapse and have a next level product
But...they've had 3+ years to learn from goxlr and basically ripped off the design and function. The software needed to be FIRE for this product to actually be relevant, especially given the higher price point. Trusting razer to make the software side better is a gamble I wouldn't personally take.
from my extensive exeperince with razer software, they don't learn. id argue going from symapse 2 to 3 was a downgrade in some areas
Yeah, I do have issues with Synapse every once in awhile but nothing really experience breaking for me. I'd hope that with a product like this that's deep in Synapse functionality they'd throw more resources at it. Time will tell
You know we are talking about razer, right??
@@TexMackerson haha! Yeah Synapse sucked for a LONG time. They've made pretty big strides in the recent years though.
At 12:00 you were set to db by default it looks like at the top you can choose percent. Then it would have worked as you expected.
A swing and a miss from Razer, damn was hoping something would dethrone the Go XLR outside the Wave XLR
I wonder if I could use this just for controlling dynamics and expression in virtual instruments since the faders look long enough and it would be a lot cheaper than many faders out there that are the same size.
Just a heads up for everyone for an issue I encountered that had a very easy fix but my mind went to much complicated places to resolve lol. Plugging my headset into the front headset port, I noticed the volume was extremely low even with the sound levels adjusted to 100 in every possible place I could think of. I changed the USB port I used on the back of my PC to another port and everything was back to normal, could hear everything loud and clear. I almost returned this product from the frustration I felt trying to figure out why the volume was so low =(. Hope this helps someone out there dealing with that problem.
Yo I'm having this problem and I'm losing my fucking mind trying to figure it out. No one else seems to have this issue, I can't find anything on Google about it. I'll try a different port, thank you so much!
Yeah this thing looks good but it needs a couple updates.
Hopefully the voice mods can just get an eq or a redo because what’s there is pretty terrible.
You can tell more effort went into the led lights than the voice and background mods.
Appreciate the honesty Harris
Hello Harris! This video was very useful for me, but could check out SteelSeries Sonar?
Love your content! It's a huge help.
I would love a video on mics for female voices.
I've found that the mics that work great for my husband's voice dont work very well for mine.
How do headphones work on the Razer one? Can you use any headphones connected to PC or only aux port in the device?
From the thumbnail I thought you were sova for a sec XD
But what I really want to know, can I plug the goxlr mini and this razor product into one pc and have 8 audio channels that have physical faders??
DUDE, those pops and clicks were the EXACT same as the HD Ripsaw from Razer that I reviewed! It's like they mixed bad technology with known technology, marked it up, and hoped nobody would notice.
Looks like the mute/route select is either muting the SOURCE for all routes vs just not having that source part of that route.
I got skillshare just yesterday. So now I see so many ads I could of learned
The beacn still seems like the best option for this simple to use audio market.
The fact that out of the box you can pass your mic to two computers is a nice feature. It seems like to me that the stuff that is lacking could be solved with a software update (hopefully). Maybe it will age like fine wine?
its razer it wont
What I have learned from this video, the Razer RGB Key Light video, and my own personal experience with Razer products (I love my DeathAdder mouse still) is that Razer needs to put together a serious development team for their software. Synapse needs a major overhaul and needs to be uniform across all devices. When you add a new Razer product it should just load the needed module for that given product and all the Razer products should be getting along fine within the single app without any hassle.
Yes absolutely.
I totally agree, this made no sense to purchase when they sent me the email
would you review Fifine products, given their sudden popularity and affordability? Im on the fence to get started with those.
OH baby that little spin at the start sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
Hey, so i have a question i made a playlist for livestreams on my channel but the livestream is still in video's. Do you now how to fix this?
Hey harris oof topic question but do you have a video on using the medal gaming app for you clips. i wanted to ask in discord but it said i could not get in the channel
Not just legacy consoles. I use the astro splitter to hook my ps5 in the optical
@Alpha Gaming you look so good with nail polish!
I think the Key Shifter function is targeted at the Asian market so that they can do key change for their karaoke sessions via the line input. Probably using like a tablet or something for playback. Doesn't make sense for the majority but I think it might make more sense for the Taiwan/China or South East Asian market since Razer's market is pretty big in Asia
Tried this product and immediately returned it. It played havoc with all of my other audio settings. Highly suggest getting a mixer that is not software dependent!
It's the little things like easy opening boxes 📦
I know everyone is giving opinions on this but I’m more intrigued by the hoodie 🤣 where did you get it or was it sent to you from youtube?
anyone else's voice monitoring sound tinny on the wavexlr, coming from a focusrite solo its been really weird sounding
Did I miss something? what happened to the cool short room? Have I been watching Alpha Gaming out of order again?
Love that mouse mat lmao
Good stuff keep it up
the length of your room scares me
Thanks Man! I’m having issues with my dual PC setup where my gameplay sound is playing like it is underwater on stream/record. Any tips to fix!?
I'll give Razer an A for effort. As you said, presentation was spot on. Looks good. Cleaner profile than my GoXLR Mini and I actually like the bigger mute and bleep buttons. But for years Razer has been plagued by their really crappy Synapse software. I barely trust it to do things with one of my mice, let alone complicated audio routing and mixing. That's like asking a child to build the next space shuttle LOL. If they only put as time and effort into a complete overhaul of Synapse as they do with their other products, they might have had a homerun here.
the light and mixer from Razer arent as good and I'll still probably stick with elgato for now but I'm so glad Elgato finally have some real competition in the streamer space. hopefully this will get both companies to improve their products in the future. maybe we'll even see some new contenders in the space.
I really need a company to make a GoXlr clone but ditch the optical digital audio for for HDMI passthrough/ audio extractor for my PS5. It would be nice to remove the extra box/cables from under my desk just to extract audio to go into my GoXlr.
Pretty sure this is DOA, at least in the UK, the price is £249... which is more than double the GoXLR mini...
Think it might be similar to their webcams and we will see the price drop pretty quickly.
It'll be $200 in a few months. The GoXLR Mini is $217 on Amazon right now.
Really love your video's ma dude, but could you please (next time) cut off the music you have in the background. Don't see the reason why i want to hear a music when you are testing the amp/mic
Hol' Up can we talk about that mousepad at 3:13 like where can i get myself one too???
seems like for most people an elgato Wave XLR and a Stream Deck(of any size) would be easier and a better setup than this thing unless they iron out the software and make some changes to the weird thing you've pointed out.
Hey I have a question about this product, if you were to have a usb mic, can you still control it? That's the biggest thing that I want to know about this product
One would assume since streambeats is free to use for livestreams and videos… one is aloud to use it for game design as well?
In Germany you can get the Go XLR Mini for 100€ less than the Razer Mixer and you pay 80€ more and get the full size Go XLR. The Go XLRs software also seems to make more sense and that you can't monitor yourself really is a dealbreaker.
I know the video is almost one year old, but I just looked up prices for XLR Interface and the GoXLR mini the price skyrocked close to 500$ CND on Amazon I would consider the razer for beind less then 300$ but some features makes the goXLR mini worth the price
never took you as a' paint your nails' kinda guy, honestly it looks good on you.
Does this unit work with guitars? Looking for an interface for my music stuff
I never noticed how pretty your hands were til today.
I'm guessing you might want key change on the line in for karaoke purposes.
If I gave up on my GoXLR, I’d do a Beacn Mix/Create and a Scarlett Solo before I did this. Seems clunky having to bounce around in Synapse, definitely clipped, and the voice changer seems super janky.
good luck getting a mix create. that thing has been listed as "sold out" ever since i became aware of the device (Harris' video)
Razor software is the reason all my razor gear went from my desks to a box labeled "to sell".
I wish more review type videos just stated the price near the start of the video, I'm gonna watch either way but it would remove some of the disappointment
This hints at Razor's next product being a stream deck equivalent. This would make that ridiculously clunky voice switching a lot more streamlined
I’ve had a go xlr mini… and had to get it replaced! The usb is awful and the connectivity with the main board and the connections crackle! Replacement is ok but I think another company really needs to 1up helicon go xlr ⬆️
I literally just want a go xlr with sub mixes and possibly a more remastered design and possibly one more xlr input for possible use for podcast for 2 and you have one of the best selling xlr mixes/streaming product on the planet for years.
I don't think there has been one. Of course you can argue there are better products but they don't have the same inputs/outputs. a pink and green port plus xlr is extremely huge for people
can you use this even to adjust audio for live calls for meetings and such?
Just skipped over that RGB lighting section sadge
could they have added support for instruments (like guitar) as Behringer UMC204HD does?
Anyone who has watched my channel knows that I love my Razer products so this is really not coming from a place malice but Razer did this one before in the steaming space with the Razer Ripsaw. They made an exact copy of an existing steaming tool in this case it was the Aver Media Live Gamer Pro for around the same price. There software support was so bad for it that it single handedly got me to use OBS. The worse part is when it comes to there headsets they are miles ahead of anyone else when it comes to mic setting. With updates this could be great but much like you said there is no reason to buy one if you have a Go XLR Mini.
Hey Harris, I have a question: is there anyway for me to get my bass or guitar into my GoXlr mini? I want my stream and freinds hear me play.
does this mixer offer recording and streaming with separate audio tracks?
one track for the stream, more tracks for each thing one wants separate, e.g. voice chats are one extra/separate track, then music, game audio, alerts, and then one more for everything else
it'd be great to be able to adjust the volume they output on stream AND in one's playback devices respectively, and to also have the audio levels for recordings be unchanged while being able to on top of that adjust it just for the stream as well as for the playback device(s) via the faders, all while each source is separate for each of those "output places" (stream, recording, playback).
is that even possible with a mixer like the goxlr, razer's knockoff, avermedia's beacn's and co.?
is there even a solution that can do that without having to run bloated software on the gaming pc and/or on the streaming pc if one uses one to offload to for recording/streaming?
would be awesome if one's gaming pc's capabilities were fully available for the game and the game only, no other bloat running otherwise, i already use a multiboot setup to run a custom modified/stripped iso i made using ntlite to reduce microsoft windows 10's bloat to optimize on that regard, but since it is so much laggier than windows 7 was it's still not good enough imo, any extra app running is a noticeable downgrade to me, i'm trying to keep things running as minimally/optimized as possible here within a still somewhat sane budget
if all of this is possible and a rare soul reading this knows, please share! would love to know if that's the case, would be very appreciated.
i agree. i dont have it, nor do i know anyone who has it. HOWEVER. Harris Heller once said that streambeats is the best copyright free music that I could use for my livestreams and youtube videos and that was true, therefore, I trust in and agree with Harris Heller.
Does it work with MacBook? I bought the GOXLR and then realized it doesn’t work with Mac.
Regardless if it's a sponsored video or not. There should be a link for the product in the description
Razer really needs to find and collaborate with audio professionals. Crinacle's recent video and review of some of their gaming headsets really makes me believe they're just trying to be the best without getting the right people involved. It would be so cool to see Razer excel like they have in the past few years with their peripherals, mainly mice.
I mean they bought THX... 😂
@@Sw1pz It's pretty obvious that they aren't doing anything with that acquisition
Hey do you know if I can connect a GoXLR mini to Kanto Yu4 speakers?
I don't stream but can I use this to adjust volume in steel series sinar in game as I play?
I stream from xbox one to razer ripsaw to laptop. I have razer blackshark pro v2 r6 editon. I use slobs. My partychat is not coming through on stream. It has worked before. Any tips for that.
I'm thinking that maybe the software they use must be a ver. 1.0.0 type of thing? Y'know, day 1 software releases tend to miss a few things that haven't finished baking? Idk, trying to give benefit of doubt ;o
I’m surprised they made this but have yet to make an xlr mic. I feel most companies make products to work with their other products. TC Helicon even has a GOXLR mic and a whole series set. Kind of a slap on the face to the hardcore Razer fans out there
Best comment so far they dropped a mixer that can’t use their usb mics without adding a additional cable and can’t use their own wireless headsets I gotta return the I bought tomorrow waste of money that doesn’t work with any of my Razer products
@@robskate303gaming9 I love razer. Honestly I do. Especially their mercury series. But goddamn are they a hella money grab at this point. It’s like they are trying to compete against companies out of their league and doing too many copycats. Have you seen their version of the Loupedeck Live? It’s just a rebrand
As a razer fanboy I’ve been very disappointed in the key light an this mixer. I had high hope for this product but I’m probably going to just have to wait an hope they fix synapse an go on sale or get the goxlr or wave mic
Been using Razer for over 6 years now. Synapse has always been trash. I don't think they'll ever fix the software even though it's almost always the issue with any of their products
hey my guy! totally unrelated to this video but no matter the price, what is the absolute best camera to have in my stream setup?
also what is the best capture card on the market?
Is there any USB audio interface that has TWO USB outputs? (1 for gaming PC, 1 for streaming PC) so that we can use it when we use both PCs OR either PC without the need of switching on the other PC, just for the mic input. This device will be awesome.
Coz sometimes i just want to use the streaming PC but i do need the mic but have to switch on the other PC. Which is... U get my point.
Razer being Razer Sheesh!
Honestly I’m just waiting for Elgato to release a fader that works with their XLR software
Can you try this with a usb mic if you can that would be very cool? I love your videos :D
I thought the Katakanas were wrong based on your logo. Then I read it twice...