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- Pro Tools Basics: Delay Compensation
Here's a video about the delay compensation system in Pro Tools: what it is, how it works, how to work around it, etc. Hope you like it!
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Super clear, simple and really well explained. How refreshing!! Thanks!
Your explanation was super clear. I’ve been using ProTools for 25 years, and I learned a couple new things from you video.
the exact video i needed, you’re the best, thank you
Great explanation of a topic that not a lot of people understand. Thanks!
It all made sense. Great simple presentation. I found this video and information incredibly helpful!! I was about to buy a new computer and now I can wait on that. Thanks Cato!!!! I loved your ending comments too!
Thanks for this video! I ran into some delay issues in a project earlier today without prior experience with this issue. This is very helpful information.
Amazing! Yeah! The small and simple things that are extremely important and essential for excellent results! Rocked!
For some reason mine was turned off and my session was CHAOS! Thank you ;)
Thanks for this video. I do livestream with ProTools and even with delay compensation on I'd still get latency issues. What I didn't realise is that with livestream you'd have to actually turn delay compensation off by right clicking in the delay compensation section over where it says cmp and turn it off. You'll see cmp which is in green will turn blue. That fixed all my latency issues.
Thank-you. That was VERY helpful!
That "Command+Control" trick got me out of a jam.
Awesome! I'm so glad it helped! Thanks for hanging out!
Good and simple explanation of things. I would recommend using the freeze button instead of shifting the clips around.
great explanation and work around! thank you for being so clear and easy to understand.
I don't know about the last comment, super clear and simple. The only part I really understood clearly was the part about your Bunny. No I got the gist. I'll use the Cato move printing it to another track then adjusting. Thanks .
the whole delay compensation issue in PT is very annoying. I think they set a limit because they don't want the program to feel too unresponsive, but I wish the limit of samples was a preference that could be set in the audio engine. this is not a thing in other DAWs...
It might be also worth mentioning that Delay Compensation in PT is applied per-bus basis.
I haven't been using PT for too long and I've just encountered an issue that took me some time to figure out, only because I'm used to other DAWs.
I'm also working on a short film where I have different submixes for all the food groups. I have a very transient sound on a dialouge production track, routed to the DIA bus. A similar sound was done in Foley and routed to my SFX bus. Both transients are perfectly lined up according to the timeline and I was still experiencing flamming (probably I wouldn't even have noticed the latency if it wasn't for that transient sounds). When I moved one clip to a track that was routed to the same bus as the other clip, it was fine.
Then I realised that there was some processor heavy plugins on one of my FX tracks' inserts, and all my other tracks that is routed to the SFX bus is compensating, but note those that are going to a different submix. Hence my submixes were out of sync.
I'm not quite certain why PT works this way, there might be a good reason, I just don't see it yet, but it sure gave me some headache.
Thanks for the useful infos! Question: If you were to "commit" a track, does it process the track with or without the delay?
did you ever find the answer to this?
It would be without the delay. Since you would have printed the effects of all your plug-ins onto your track, pro tools would simply be playing back audio with no additional processing and thus there wouldn’t be any delay
@@matthewsmith791 Good to know thank you!
You should run RX as AudioSuite instead of real-time plugins 👍🏻
Yeah, that's another good work around!
Thank you so much for this very concise explanation!
Great explanation. Thank you!
Great video Cato. Thanks for posting.
Thank you !! Always new things to discover on the ‘tools… darn Vocal Rider was overloading the delay.. wanted to parallel comp my vocals using GW’s El Ray comp.. (also heavy on a CPU). The para comp doing Waaay better job than Vocal Rider, and no delay issues yay!
You cleared that up for me. Thank youuu.
Sure thing, glad you liked it! Thanks for hanging out!
Thanks for the video. Helpful info.
Thanks so mutch !!!!
awesome video ! Thank you
perfect. just what i needed. thank you
Awesome, glad to help! Thanks for watching!
baller work around - using that one for sure
Solid video, thank you!
Just a little advice for the RX because it is heavy into delay compes. I'm used to apply them through the audiosuite process. Also another trick is to give more RAM to the audio playback, if you have 32 GIGA you can easily go for 14/16 GIGA for the playback engine.
could you please explain how to do this or send another link please? I have a lot of processing issues with my RX plugins
@@kaylaelrod31 yes shure!!!
@@sgfdancecompany I'm also interested in this. Could you let me know where I can address more ram to audio playback? Thanks
Audiosuite in pro tools allows you to process in places the track or stem you wanna treat, in this way, you commit the RX processing straight and don't need to use it as an insert, of course first make a playlist of the track to save the raw version
@@aliceswonderland7503 Yes of course ub the audio playback dialog at the bottom you have a tab dedicated to the RAM, you can address half of the RAM of your computer to get more power (if you have 32 gigas, put 16 and so on) Let me know
Great video!
Genius! Thanks!
Thank You !!
Maybe a newb question, but can you just use the +/- to adjust by that amount instead of moving the clip?
Would this be the same process when time aligning a Dolby Atmos speaker array?
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6:01 Manual Delay Compensation using shuffle and sample timing.
Thank you very much ,so what to do if its an Aux? Record the track and time align it suppose?
Yeah, that's one way to deal with it - route it to an audio track and record that (I would just keep the original tracks and make them inactive in case you want to rework it later). Or find a way to reduce the plugin usage. Some plugins will just eat up the available delay compensation though, so it's definitely warranted at times.
To my understanding you easily could freeze this track which is a kind of bouncing (with the delay compensation) that you can revoke at any time. Am I right?
Yeah, I don't personally use the freeze function as often as I could, but I believe that's right!
When mixing, is it best to have the delay compensation engine set to long or short? I've always had it set to long in Protools 10 and get somewhat frequent errors during a track bounce. Also if you have Protools CPU usage limit set to 85% or higher, would that effect normal operations like mouse and external hard drive performance? If anyone reading this knows it would be greatly appreciated.
you can also use the time adjuster plugin to add the delays rather than editing the clip positions
Yeah, thanks for pointing that out!
Is that a standard plugin in pt or 3rd party?
@@SXTWLVE pretty sure its standard
Time adjuster does not allow to use negative values. In this case, time adjuster should be applied to all other tracks, not the one with the Delay compensation issue.
Oddly... The Pro Tools Reference Guide explains about the Delay
Compensation limit. But it doesn't seem to say what it is?
Yeah, so the Delay Compensation limit is how many samples of delay Pro Tools can counteract (by delaying other tracks) - oh! But you're wondering the specific number? Haha, I see you found it with your other comment, yeah?
Would had been a bit more convenient just using freeze?
Great Video on an important topic.
What about compensation on Aux sends?
My understanding is that PT doesn't compensate auxes for 'Key' inputs.(Like a kick triggering a compressor on the bass track).
.....Except that PT HD actually does do this. ......And maybe a new update will??
Can you clarify??
it does now for key input side chaining.
This sucks cause I never have this issue using Logic pro. I just copy/paste my presets and done but I still love PT.
🇮🇳❤️ Thanks for the Usefull Tuto Videos Zane 🥰
Thanks for the tip. I was looking for that.
What version of PT is this? I'm not familiar with this dark theme/ color palette. Thanks!
I made this video a while back, so I don't remember exactly which version I was in, but I've been on the subscription model for a while now (but I do wait a bit before running updates, I don't like being the first one to try the updates). So, I think this one might have been one of the 2021 versions or something.
@@CatoNoise Thanks. I'm still with the 2019 version (perpetual license).
Other than the color palette, any major differences that you can think of (positive and/or negative) between the 2019 and the 2021-2022 versions?
Can't you just freeze the track?
So what if I want to record. ? After you have mixed ?
You can still record if you want
From my experience
This delay compensation function decreases the overall fidelity
63000! i get worried when i see 4500
What? That's an archaic, dinosauric, outdated system. How can you make a beat with all those limitations?
Great explanation. Thanks!!