So Sonic Jr isnt actually Sonic's son, he is Sonic from the past. His official name is Classic Sonic. The reason for him being there is because the game has some time travel stuff, and the game itself is supposed to celebrate some of Sonic's more iconic stages/bosses. This new version of the game also added a whole Shadow campaign to celebrate Shadow's past too
@@codebracker not really, its the opposite actually. It used to be separate then retcon into same timeline as ian flynn confirm it in 4th Nov 2022 Bumblekast, especially when tails explain what happened in SXS generations by erasing the word space from the OG "traveling through time and space" cutscene.
@@codebracker Basically, it was just Sonic from the past in Generations, became "Sonic from another dimension" in Forces and then he came back into being just "Sonic from the past" for a good while now, with the explanation to fill the gap created by Forces that Tails calling him "Sonic from another dimension" in Forces was because: time, just like space, is a different "dimension" in reality, so time travelling could also be considered "travelling through dimensions" Basically... think as if Silver the Hedgehog could also be considered someone from "another dimension" since he comes from 200 years in the future to Sonic's time period so he can save his future or sometimes just enjoy the present with his friends, he is coming to a time period that is not his own with the help of Time Travel, Classic Sonic would be "travelling through dimensions" in Gens and Forces more closely to how Silver does it (coming from another period) instead of how Blaze does it (coming from another dimension) I actually like more him being from the past like it always has been
@@mio3199 The thing is that in OG Gens he was indeed from the past, then Forces came around and messed it up saying he was from another dimension, and later it was fixed for Classic to be from the past again The funny part is that I'm almost pretty sure in the JP script for Forces Tails calls Classic Sonic "Sonic from another world" which I think, however, I'm no professional in japanese, in japanese, calling him like that can open up for 2 interpretations, that he comes from another dimension, like in the english dub of Forces, or that he just comes from the past, which would be more in line with the original Generations I'm glad they fixed that and reverted Classic Sonic back into just being Sonic from the past, it makes sense since Classic Sonic is indeed the Sonic from the 90s, and I think it avoids confusion with the whole 2 timelines and continuities thingy where the new Classic games are in a separate timeline from the modern games from SA1-Frontiers and even more that will probably continue to release
Sonic Generations is a remaster of the 2011 game where Sonic teams up with his younger self, referred to as Classic Sonic, where they travel to different points in time in order to restore the timeline. Shadow Generations takes place at the same time as Sonic Generations, and it's the new campaign so that's why it's getting more promotion. Both Shadow the Hedgehog and Rouge the Bat were introduced in Sonic Adventure 2 while that robot (named E-123 Omega) was introduced in Sonic Heroes. Together, all three are referred to as Team Dark. Black Doom is the main villain of Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) who seems to have survived by that larva (Death Leech) that remained on the ARK due to his hivemind race.
The person who sang the song at the end of the dark beginnings video is Casey Lee Williams, the primary vocalist for RWBY. I recognized the voice IMMEDIATELY when I first saw this.
The girl, Maria, is Eggman's cousin. She suffered from a terminal illness that made her unable to leave the place of her birth and go down to Earth. To save Maria, Gerald worked on Project Shadow in hopes of finding a cure for her. Gerald's research produced Shadow the Hedgehog, with whom Maria became close friends. When G.U.N. later shut down the ARK, Maria was killed by a G.U.N. Soldier while trying to assist Shadow in his escape from the colony. Her passing had a major impact on Shadow's psyche and proved to be an event that would strongly influence the world's fate in the following decades. 6:41 No. In Sonic Adventure 2, the game where Shadow debuted, Eggman used the Ark's eclipse cannon to blow up part of the moon as a demonstration of his "conquer the world" scheme in the game at Shadow's suggestion. The kid, Abe, grows up to be the G.U.N. Commander in the Shadow the Hedgehog game. And it's implied that he was so traumatized by witnessing Black Doom assisting Shadow's creation that he leaked this information to G.U.N. himself, which led to the raid that killed Maria, who he saw as an older sister. In the game's secret Expert Mode, he apologizes to Shadow over the com radio for his actions and even invites him over for dinner to meet his family. And given how Shadow is revealed to be a GUN agent starting with the next game, it's not hard to imagine the Commander helped make it possible. By the way, the end song is done by Casey Lee Williams, the songwriter for RWBY.
Also, slight but not serious and definitely not important correction: In *official Shadow Generations artwork, the description describes Shadow and Maria as, quote, "long-lost siblings."* Them being siblings was always obvious to me, but I guess it's not to others. Shadow and Maria's relationship is deeper than just being "friends"--Glad to see that them having a sibling dynamic is canon; It just always felt that way. Plus, Gerald even calls Shadow his "son", making Maria his "sister". _Of course, logically, Shadow would be Maria's uncle, if he was made by Maria's grandfather,_ but it's ok-- Maria and Shadow having a "sibling" dynamic works more than them having an "uncle-niece" dynamic.
@aband0nware at one point in time in a previous telling of what happened 50 years ago wasn't it said that Maria was born on the Ark but then they retold it?
21:23 Haha ok, so "Sonic Jr." is supposed to be "Classic Sonic", the Sonic that you play as in the 2D games (namely the ones from 1991 to 1997). The "older" looking Sonic is "Modern Sonic" the one you play as in the 3D games (entries from 1998 - current day). This game is a remaster of Sonic Generations, which came out back in 2011 as a celebration for Sonic's 20th anniversary. The game takes 2D and 3D stages from previous Sonic entries and puts a different twist on many of them, or lets you play as Modern or Classic Sonic in stages that aren't from their respective era of games.
A fantastic prologue to a fantastic game whose story...actually kind of broke me. They really took the "time gets broken" gimmick and said, "how can we make this painful?"
This is Legit one of the best Prologues I’ve ever seen, Especially for my boy Shadow the Freaking Hedgehog!!! We honestly need an animated show or game with this kind of animation. It’s kinda of a bummer not gonna lie that you guys didn’t really get into the Sonic Lore and games throughout the years so that way you guys would’ve been WAY more hyped!!!
15:08 Sonic Generations explored the concept of time, which brings us back to have both Modern and Classic Sonic playable. Now with Shadow, it brings us back to explore things that was never been talked about Shadow's past, hence, the name of the game being Sonic X Shadow Generations Rouge was also presented as a new character the same game as Shadow (in Sonic Adventure 2), that's why moving forward, they became very fond with each other, cause they respect themselves as Allies when they need it.
Dr. Eggman canonically blew up the moon during the events of Sonic Adventure 2, the same game where Shadow debuted. That's why the moon looks like that. Also, Death Battle's next video will actually be Bowser vs. Dr. Eggman, which is bound to be good. Also, the ending song is sung by Casey Lee Williams, who is also the lead singer for RWBY. So that makes two RWBY connections here. Sonic Generations' whole premise was to celebrate Sonic's 20th anniversary, hence the two Sonics (classic and modern for the 2d and 3d eras respectively), as well as time traveling to past stages. Sonic x Shadow Generations updates that for modern consoles while also introducing an entirely new campaign for Shadow, centered around his past.
It won't be good BCS they will give Bowser the win even tho we know that in reality egg man wins, they literally gave the W to Omni man even tho bardock wins in reality too
Shadow's game, Shadow Generations, takes place during Sonic Generations (2011) while Shadow was aboard the ark in finding the whereabouts of Black Doom, after his defeat in Shadow the Hedgehog (2005).
So, the smaller Sonic is Classic Sonic. Originally they used him to represent Sonic from the past, but in later games they us him as a Sonic from an alternate timeline or different dimension. Kinda depends on what they use him for, but he recently had another game release called Sonic Superstars.
In the current date, for some years now, he has been considered again just the "Sonic from the past" and that whole thing about Tails calling Classic Sonic the "Sonic from another dimension" in Forces was "retconned"/explained as "time" being another dimension just like "space", so a time traveller could be considered someone from "another dimension" since they're not in their own period of time, they're travelling into a period that is not theirs
The Animation is Phenomenal in all sense of the word. If you ever decide you want to play the game yourselves I suggest doing a deep dive into the previous Sonic game stories, or at least Shadow's story if you'd just playing the Shadow side. Cause the Sonic timeline does branch off when they transitioned from 2D to 3D, that's why there are two Sonics
I just finished shadow generations yesterday. Dark beginnings gave us some of the best character writing we haven't seen since the adventure era games. I hope the next game can continue that trend going forward
I’m so glad that my recommend video has finally got caught in your eyes to see this video!!! Originally, the game is about Sonic meeting his past self to save their friends along fighting their past enemies and rivals, to defeat a time monster. Now they are adding Shadow to the story of how he was in the game in his perspective. As he goes to his own past as he is confronts painful memories as he tries to move on forward on the future to leave the past behind him.
Like others have said, "Sonic Jr." is just Sonic from the 90s, who's referred to as Classic Sonic. Sonic Generations was a game from 2011 that celebrated Sonic's legacy by having his Classic and Modern self team up and play through familiar levels from Sonic's past. Sonic x Shadow Generations is a re-release of the game, but with a brand new Shadow campaign that's REALLY good. So yeah, since the Shadow stuff is the actual new content, it gets most of the focus in advertisements.
I am surprised not a single person mentioned this that I saw. You two of course have been reacting to RWBY, and even referenced it with the broken moon. But what I bet you didn't notice is that Casey Lee Williams sang that song at the ending of the Ark Raid episode.
A sad thing about Maria's death is that it wasn't just a traumatic event for Shadow, it was traumatic for everyone that knew her. She was a truly pure-hearted person that everyone really liked.
To kind of explain some of the stuff happening here, there is a lot of time travel shegnanigans happening. Shadow's story is he is a biological weapon created by Eggman's grandfather Professor Gerald. Gerald intentionally wanted to make a cure for Maria's incredibly rare disease. The earth's atmophere actually hurts her a lot so thats why they have the space station. Black Doom, leader of a race of aliens called Black Arms, approached Gerald and forced him to make Black Doom a warrior. Thus, Shadow was made. Unfortunately GUN took notice of this and stormed the ark to rid of the evidence. Gerald was captured and executed in the chair you saw and Maria was shot after helping Shadow escape the ark. So now Shadow gets to see Maria and Gerald again because of the time travel stuff going on. That's also why there are two sonics lol so "Sonic Jr" is actually named Classic Sonic, who is sonic from the older retro titles
I can say the “Story of Shadow the Hedgehog” is the most broken storyline in Sonic History that you feel some sadness over his loss of Maria😩. Also I hope you two play the game or check any games that feature Shadow’s story in any media. By the way song during the third episode of Shadow’s mini series. The song creator is Casey Lee Williams aka the same artist who done RWBY’s OSTs. It’s surprising that her talents are still going strong after the shutting down of Rooster Teeth.
Bro, as a 16 year old Sonic fan who’s been a fan since I was 6 (a whole decade), I’m SO GLAD they got Ian to write this. Same man who wrote the Sonic IDW. The SXSG game and prologue is magnificent, and they finally delved into Shadow and Maria’s relationship and their time on the ARK.
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 If you mean they should start playing one of the older console games via emulation, then they don’t know how to do that. They’re reactors, not hardcore gamers.
Sonic Jr. is crazy lol but it's basically his classic self in the past. But ya, I do recommend playing SonicxShadow Gens, a stream is easily can be done due to the length of the game. It'll show u his and explain to you his story more and playing the game will add more to his story. I highly recommend it. I would LOVE IT! Also, If u want, I do want to recommend a video explaining more of Shadow if you want.(That's only if you don't want to play it or if u want to react to the whole story)
Dragon Ball is always the easy comparison to make with Sonic for me, Shadow is absolutely the Vegeta to Sonics Goku, although I'd say Shadow has always been more on the good side compared to Vegeta who had a long turnaround. I'm not an avid Sonic fan I mainly just experience it through my girlfriend who is obsessed with it, but Shadow is probably my favorite I just rly like characters like him, and God this short movie is just amazing the action choreography is phenomenal, portraying speed can be so hard and they did it so well, him catching the missile, turning it around and just letting go so it flies back, and then ZOOMING UP to it and picking it up again to just lob it at the ship is just so unnecessarily cool lol it's raw.
If you guys decide to go down a sonic game rabbit hole and don't know where to start, ask me! ( I'm subscribed to the patreon) I'm with radioSEGA and I've been around the block for the bulk of the games. I even have my own completed podcast diving into every ost for all the sonic games
Oh yeah it’s time for you two to learn all about Shadow origin story which right now is perfect timing for you two since the third Sonic movie is literally right around the corner and will also dive deep into the story behind Shadow with one major different that has to do with one of the two important people to Shadow and their fate which I won’t spoil but all I’ll say is you’ve now been introduced to him
The smaller sonic is sonic from the older 2d games and the bigger one from the 3d games love rogues character hated the fight agenst her in adventure 2 and the robot who was saying dibs is omega I don't know any specific videos but it might be worth looking for one explaining the games time line
The animations in the beginning really hit hard... when you know the story from Sonic Adventure 2 (where Shadow was introduced) everything hits you so much harder. They could do an entire animated series from those 3 episodes. I remember when Adventure 2 came out. Everyone was hyped!!
"Sonic Jr" Is actually just a younger version of sonic taken from an earlier point in the timeline, he joins the present day sonic on a time travelling adventure to save time and space from eggman and his time devouring monster. To distinguish them, The younger sonic is referred to as "Classic Sonic", while his older self is referred to as "Modern Sonic"
One, I am glad y’all reacted to the game trailers too. Two, since you’re new to this, Sonic Generations is about a creature that tears through time and space and it sucks the life out of their world. So the “sonic jr” it actually past/classic Sonic. Both Modern Sonic and Classic Sonic team up to stop the creature. That all happened 2011. This time, it’s the same game but they also made it to where you can play in shadows perspective. And not to spoil and going based off the trailers, that starfish with an eye is Black Doom. Shadows creator. And he also takes part in what the monster is doing and Shadow has to stop him. During all that, he unlocks what you saw was Doom Powers like morph, wings, and surf. Again, it’s okay if you didn’t know and I am glad to provide this non spoiler version of what y’all have seen 🙏can’t wait for more Sonic X Shadow Generations content
Dark Beginnings is one of the best media we have ever gotten from the Sonic series, and it did such an OUTSTANDING job showcasing Shadow's character and lore. Gamewise, guys that's not "Sonic Jr.", it's Classic Sonic, as in Sonic from the past, because Sonic Generations involves time travel.
The context for the moon in pieces is that In sonic adventure 2(sega dreamcast/nintendo gamecube) TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO PLANET EARTH SO THAT G.U.N MILITARY WILL SUBMIT, Eggman basically highjacks the ark and blows up a huge portion of the moon and threatens to do the same with earth
The animation mentioned that Shadow has “Black Arms” alien DNA in him, so the thing you thought was like a symbiotic is actually that DNA becoming more active and him learning to wield it his own way.
Of course Ian is behind the writing to this amazing Prologue + Game. He's also the guy who helped write the Sonic IDW, and with how amazing that is, I'm not surprised he's behind the writing of this. I watched the Prologue Preview when it released, and I was sad to only see a minute of such an amazing Prologue. But once episode 1 released, I was amazed. At everything; The animation, writing, SEGA finally delving in Shadow and Maria's relationship, EMERL COMING BACK!! When episode 2 released, I was just as overjoyed--Omega and Rouge arrived, thus Team Dark is complete! And the heterochromia general finally has a canonical name! (Abraham Tower). Episode 3 was all feels---Shadow having premonitions of a future where Maria and him are on Earth together--An unreachable future, a future that never came to be. The flower field Shadow and Maria were in are called *Balloon Flowers,* and they represent *endless love* and the *desire for the return of a friend.* WHY IAN?! Seriously though, I'm so glad they finally made a game all about Shadow after 19 years (the last game was Shadow '05)!! Plus, it talked more about Maria's illness and how it effected her, as well as Shadow and Maria's time on the ARK. Plus, the SXSG's game ending....That broke me. Got the game last Friday (October 25th), and beat it on Saturday (October 26th). Took me a day to beat, when it took most people 4-5 hours...Lol. Anyways, as a 16 year old fan who's been a Sonic -addict- fan for a whole decade, (since I was 6) Shadow Generations exceeded all expectations--Thank you Ian! (Didn't play Sonic Generations since I already played that game in 2013 when I was 6-7)
Also, you should totally react to the Shadow Generations cutscenes! They're all super amazing. Of course, that is if you've already played the game, or if you haven't and are only interested in the story for the game.
22:48 Yeah, Maria is a tragic character. Afflicted with an uncurrable (unknown) disease, and shot dead trying to save Shadow. Their bond is very much like sibilings. She is such a sweet character.🩵💙
For Wild Card Wednesdays, i think you should put "The Complete Lore of Project Shadow" by Chaomix on one of the polls. For what may be the inly consistent plot thread in Sonic, it's nice to see it all wrapped together in a video like this.
The one you call Sonic junior is actually the same sonic, just younger. We call him the Classic Sonic. The adult sonic, we call Modern Sonic. They're the same sonic, from two points of their life.
Glad to see you guys learning more and more about Shadow. I loved the original Sonic Generations game, so this Shadow add on story is going to be so much fun for me. Also, glad you guys get to see and kind of learn about Rouge in these trailers. Rouge is a treasure hunter and loves shiny things, and is also an agent. In the older games and the anime, she was a rival for Knuckles since she loves treasure and shiny things, and of course with Knuckles main goal being to protect the master emerald and the emerald being a giant shiny treasure, they clashed a few times. Also while Knuckles strength are all in the fist, Rouge’s strength are in her kicks. Shes good though and is friends with the main cast
Funny you mentioned RWBY and the broken moon. The song at the end of the animatic is performed by Casey Lee Williams, the main singer for RWBY's soundtrack 🙂
There are other Sonic animations on youtube you guys might like, such as Sonic Mania Adventures Team Sonic Racing Overdrive Chao in Space Sonic Colors Rise of the Wisps Sonic Frontiers: Knuckles Prologue Sonic Superstars: Trio of Trouble There's also Tailstube an ongoing series, which is used to explain the world of Sonic.
I really hope you guys cover more sonic content in the future. My suggestion is a fan creation by Chakra X called Sonic Nazo Unleashed. It's heavily inspired by Dragon Ball Z and essentially bred an entire generation of fan created Sonic content.
I really loved these animations, and I'm happy to see Shadow's lore finally receiving more attention. Plus, I would love if you guys reacted to "There's Something About Amy" by Mashed, it's a really interesting fan animation that it's more intense than it seems.
hi! been loving your sonic reactions!! would you ever consider doing a reaction to some of the Sonic TV shows? i recommend either Sonic Prime or Sonic Boom, Sonic Prime is more serious story-wise while Sonic Boom is more of a comedy show (both are still enjoyable!)
15:10 that's not sonic's kid.....that sonic from sonic 1 or sonic when he was young if you see the footage of "kid sonic" is all 2d and other sonic is 3d and 2d mixed
Excellent reaction as always! You'd be surprised at how many Sonic fans are subscribers of yours, and would love more reactions of the franchise! Personally, I'd recommend TheMentok and Ace Card Gaming if you guys want to deepdive into the lore and characters, and there's a bunch of cool content like animations and comics by the community worthy of reactions(Sonic Shorts by Sonic Paradox, Project Shadow by JoaoFilipeSantiago, Nazo Unleashed by Chakra X, Super Mario Bros Z by Mark Haynes, Sonic Stop Motion Adventures by Piplupfan77, adaptations of the official IDW comics by Adrenaline Dubs, the comedy skits by Jehtt and RandomGoonVO, and so much more!) Also, about other topics, i still hope you check out PopCross Studios and Thorgi's Arcade on your channel in the near future!
So Sonic Jr isnt actually Sonic's son, he is Sonic from the past. His official name is Classic Sonic. The reason for him being there is because the game has some time travel stuff, and the game itself is supposed to celebrate some of Sonic's more iconic stages/bosses. This new version of the game also added a whole Shadow campaign to celebrate Shadow's past too
I think they retconned classic sinic later as the classic sonic being a separate timeline then the modern sonic
@@codebracker not really, its the opposite actually. It used to be separate then retcon into same timeline as ian flynn confirm it in 4th Nov 2022 Bumblekast, especially when tails explain what happened in SXS generations by erasing the word space from the OG "traveling through time and space" cutscene.
@@codebracker Basically, it was just Sonic from the past in Generations, became "Sonic from another dimension" in Forces and then he came back into being just "Sonic from the past" for a good while now, with the explanation to fill the gap created by Forces that Tails calling him "Sonic from another dimension" in Forces was because: time, just like space, is a different "dimension" in reality, so time travelling could also be considered "travelling through dimensions"
Basically... think as if Silver the Hedgehog could also be considered someone from "another dimension" since he comes from 200 years in the future to Sonic's time period so he can save his future or sometimes just enjoy the present with his friends, he is coming to a time period that is not his own with the help of Time Travel, Classic Sonic would be "travelling through dimensions" in Gens and Forces more closely to how Silver does it (coming from another period) instead of how Blaze does it (coming from another dimension)
I actually like more him being from the past like it always has been
@@mio3199 The thing is that in OG Gens he was indeed from the past, then Forces came around and messed it up saying he was from another dimension, and later it was fixed for Classic to be from the past again
The funny part is that I'm almost pretty sure in the JP script for Forces Tails calls Classic Sonic "Sonic from another world" which I think, however, I'm no professional in japanese, in japanese, calling him like that can open up for 2 interpretations, that he comes from another dimension, like in the english dub of Forces, or that he just comes from the past, which would be more in line with the original Generations
I'm glad they fixed that and reverted Classic Sonic back into just being Sonic from the past, it makes sense since Classic Sonic is indeed the Sonic from the 90s, and I think it avoids confusion with the whole 2 timelines and continuities thingy where the new Classic games are in a separate timeline from the modern games from SA1-Frontiers and even more that will probably continue to release
@@codebrackerEven if it was a separate timeline, Classic Sonic would still be the exact same as a young Modern Sonic.
Sonic Generations is a remaster of the 2011 game where Sonic teams up with his younger self, referred to as Classic Sonic, where they travel to different points in time in order to restore the timeline.
Shadow Generations takes place at the same time as Sonic Generations, and it's the new campaign so that's why it's getting more promotion.
Both Shadow the Hedgehog and Rouge the Bat were introduced in Sonic Adventure 2 while that robot (named E-123 Omega) was introduced in Sonic Heroes. Together, all three are referred to as Team Dark.
Black Doom is the main villain of Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) who seems to have survived by that larva (Death Leech) that remained on the ARK due to his hivemind race.
Thanks for this quick breakdown 🤗
The person who sang the song at the end of the dark beginnings video is Casey Lee Williams, the primary vocalist for RWBY. I recognized the voice IMMEDIATELY when I first saw this.
😯 that’s so cool! Happy for her 😀
Mainly, the game was originally all Sonic, but they added Shadow in the mix, making him more than hardcore all on his own
😎👍🙂
The girl, Maria, is Eggman's cousin. She suffered from a terminal illness that made her unable to leave the place of her birth and go down to Earth. To save Maria, Gerald worked on Project Shadow in hopes of finding a cure for her. Gerald's research produced Shadow the Hedgehog, with whom Maria became close friends. When G.U.N. later shut down the ARK, Maria was killed by a G.U.N. Soldier while trying to assist Shadow in his escape from the colony. Her passing had a major impact on Shadow's psyche and proved to be an event that would strongly influence the world's fate in the following decades.
6:41 No. In Sonic Adventure 2, the game where Shadow debuted, Eggman used the Ark's eclipse cannon to blow up part of the moon as a demonstration of his "conquer the world" scheme in the game at Shadow's suggestion.
The kid, Abe, grows up to be the G.U.N. Commander in the Shadow the Hedgehog game. And it's implied that he was so traumatized by witnessing Black Doom assisting Shadow's creation that he leaked this information to G.U.N. himself, which led to the raid that killed Maria, who he saw as an older sister. In the game's secret Expert Mode, he apologizes to Shadow over the com radio for his actions and even invites him over for dinner to meet his family. And given how Shadow is revealed to be a GUN agent starting with the next game, it's not hard to imagine the Commander helped make it possible.
By the way, the end song is done by Casey Lee Williams, the songwriter for RWBY.
She had space aids
Slight correction, Maria was born on earth but Gerald brought her to the ARK for treatment after her diagnosis.
Also, slight but not serious and definitely not important correction:
In *official Shadow Generations artwork, the description describes Shadow and Maria as, quote, "long-lost siblings."*
Them being siblings was always obvious to me, but I guess it's not to others.
Shadow and Maria's relationship is deeper than just being "friends"--Glad to see that them having a sibling dynamic is canon; It just always felt that way.
Plus, Gerald even calls Shadow his "son", making Maria his "sister". _Of course, logically, Shadow would be Maria's uncle, if he was made by Maria's grandfather,_ but it's ok--
Maria and Shadow having a "sibling" dynamic works more than them having an "uncle-niece" dynamic.
@aband0nware at one point in time in a previous telling of what happened 50 years ago wasn't it said that Maria was born on the Ark but then they retold it?
21:23 Haha ok, so "Sonic Jr." is supposed to be "Classic Sonic", the Sonic that you play as in the 2D games (namely the ones from 1991 to 1997). The "older" looking Sonic is "Modern Sonic" the one you play as in the 3D games (entries from 1998 - current day).
This game is a remaster of Sonic Generations, which came out back in 2011 as a celebration for Sonic's 20th anniversary. The game takes 2D and 3D stages from previous Sonic entries and puts a different twist on many of them, or lets you play as Modern or Classic Sonic in stages that aren't from their respective era of games.
That makes a lot more sense than what we thought was going on 😂
A fantastic prologue to a fantastic game whose story...actually kind of broke me. They really took the "time gets broken" gimmick and said, "how can we make this painful?"
This is Legit one of the best Prologues I’ve ever seen, Especially for my boy Shadow the Freaking Hedgehog!!! We honestly need an animated show or game with this kind of animation.
It’s kinda of a bummer not gonna lie that you guys didn’t really get into the Sonic Lore and games throughout the years so that way you guys would’ve been WAY more hyped!!!
15:08 Sonic Generations explored the concept of time, which brings us back to have both Modern and Classic Sonic playable.
Now with Shadow, it brings us back to explore things that was never been talked about Shadow's past, hence, the name of the game being Sonic X Shadow Generations
Rouge was also presented as a new character the same game as Shadow (in Sonic Adventure 2), that's why moving forward, they became very fond with each other, cause they respect themselves as Allies when they need it.
Dr. Eggman canonically blew up the moon during the events of Sonic Adventure 2, the same game where Shadow debuted. That's why the moon looks like that. Also, Death Battle's next video will actually be Bowser vs. Dr. Eggman, which is bound to be good.
Also, the ending song is sung by Casey Lee Williams, who is also the lead singer for RWBY. So that makes two RWBY connections here.
Sonic Generations' whole premise was to celebrate Sonic's 20th anniversary, hence the two Sonics (classic and modern for the 2d and 3d eras respectively), as well as time traveling to past stages. Sonic x Shadow Generations updates that for modern consoles while also introducing an entirely new campaign for Shadow, centered around his past.
It won't be good BCS they will give Bowser the win even tho we know that in reality egg man wins, they literally gave the W to Omni man even tho bardock wins in reality too
Shadow's game, Shadow Generations, takes place during Sonic Generations (2011) while Shadow was aboard the ark in finding the whereabouts of Black Doom, after his defeat in Shadow the Hedgehog (2005).
So, the smaller Sonic is Classic Sonic. Originally they used him to represent Sonic from the past, but in later games they us him as a Sonic from an alternate timeline or different dimension. Kinda depends on what they use him for, but he recently had another game release called Sonic Superstars.
In the current date, for some years now, he has been considered again just the "Sonic from the past" and that whole thing about Tails calling Classic Sonic the "Sonic from another dimension" in Forces was "retconned"/explained as "time" being another dimension just like "space", so a time traveller could be considered someone from "another dimension" since they're not in their own period of time, they're travelling into a period that is not theirs
That lighter shorter sonic is actually his classic younger self. It’s all due to the effect of time travel.
The Animation is Phenomenal in all sense of the word. If you ever decide you want to play the game yourselves I suggest doing a deep dive into the previous Sonic game stories, or at least Shadow's story if you'd just playing the Shadow side. Cause the Sonic timeline does branch off when they transitioned from 2D to 3D, that's why there are two Sonics
I just finished shadow generations yesterday. Dark beginnings gave us some of the best character writing we haven't seen since the adventure era games. I hope the next game can continue that trend going forward
I’m so glad that my recommend video has finally got caught in your eyes to see this video!!! Originally, the game is about Sonic meeting his past self to save their friends along fighting their past enemies and rivals, to defeat a time monster. Now they are adding Shadow to the story of how he was in the game in his perspective. As he goes to his own past as he is confronts painful memories as he tries to move on forward on the future to leave the past behind him.
Really nice summary of Sonic and Shadow's part in the game.
The little sonic is his younger self from the past games from the 90s The new powers shadow got was from black doom trying to possess him
Like others have said, "Sonic Jr." is just Sonic from the 90s, who's referred to as Classic Sonic. Sonic Generations was a game from 2011 that celebrated Sonic's legacy by having his Classic and Modern self team up and play through familiar levels from Sonic's past.
Sonic x Shadow Generations is a re-release of the game, but with a brand new Shadow campaign that's REALLY good. So yeah, since the Shadow stuff is the actual new content, it gets most of the focus in advertisements.
I am surprised not a single person mentioned this that I saw.
You two of course have been reacting to RWBY, and even referenced it with the broken moon. But what I bet you didn't notice is that Casey Lee Williams sang that song at the ending of the Ark Raid episode.
A sad thing about Maria's death is that it wasn't just a traumatic event for Shadow, it was traumatic for everyone that knew her. She was a truly pure-hearted person that everyone really liked.
To kind of explain some of the stuff happening here, there is a lot of time travel shegnanigans happening.
Shadow's story is he is a biological weapon created by Eggman's grandfather Professor Gerald. Gerald intentionally wanted to make a cure for Maria's incredibly rare disease. The earth's atmophere actually hurts her a lot so thats why they have the space station.
Black Doom, leader of a race of aliens called Black Arms, approached Gerald and forced him to make Black Doom a warrior. Thus, Shadow was made.
Unfortunately GUN took notice of this and stormed the ark to rid of the evidence. Gerald was captured and executed in the chair you saw and Maria was shot after helping Shadow escape the ark.
So now Shadow gets to see Maria and Gerald again because of the time travel stuff going on.
That's also why there are two sonics lol so "Sonic Jr" is actually named Classic Sonic, who is sonic from the older retro titles
I can say the “Story of Shadow the Hedgehog” is the most broken storyline in Sonic History that you feel some sadness over his loss of Maria😩. Also I hope you two play the game or check any games that feature Shadow’s story in any media.
By the way song during the third episode of Shadow’s mini series. The song creator is Casey Lee Williams aka the same artist who done RWBY’s OSTs. It’s surprising that her talents are still going strong after the shutting down of Rooster Teeth.
Bro, as a 16 year old Sonic fan who’s been a fan since I was 6 (a whole decade), I’m SO GLAD they got Ian to write this. Same man who wrote the Sonic IDW. The SXSG game and prologue is magnificent, and they finally delved into Shadow and Maria’s relationship and their time on the ARK.
Who else wants them to do a lore dive on Shadow and his history?
I hope you guys can play this game, as well as livestream it. It’s really amazing.
I know right makes me glad I Pre Ordered the game it's fantastic!!!
I kinda want them to react to shadows lore.
I don't think I've ever seen them play a pure platform game. So if they do play it, it will be their first experience and probably rough at first.
They should start from the beginning
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If you mean they should start playing one of the older console games via emulation, then they don’t know how to do that.
They’re reactors, not hardcore gamers.
Sonic Jr. is crazy lol but it's basically his classic self in the past. But ya, I do recommend playing SonicxShadow Gens, a stream is easily can be done due to the length of the game. It'll show u his and explain to you his story more and playing the game will add more to his story. I highly recommend it. I would LOVE IT! Also, If u want, I do want to recommend a video explaining more of Shadow if you want.(That's only if you don't want to play it or if u want to react to the whole story)
I love shadow dark origins it’s such a great story for shadow the hedgehog my favorite character in sonic universe in my opinion.
Dragon Ball is always the easy comparison to make with Sonic for me, Shadow is absolutely the Vegeta to Sonics Goku, although I'd say Shadow has always been more on the good side compared to Vegeta who had a long turnaround. I'm not an avid Sonic fan I mainly just experience it through my girlfriend who is obsessed with it, but Shadow is probably my favorite I just rly like characters like him, and God this short movie is just amazing the action choreography is phenomenal, portraying speed can be so hard and they did it so well, him catching the missile, turning it around and just letting go so it flies back, and then ZOOMING UP to it and picking it up again to just lob it at the ship is just so unnecessarily cool lol it's raw.
Yall should react to Sonic Adventure 2 cutscenes. That's the game Shadow and Rouge debuted in.
Shadow is too badass 😢😢😢😎😎😎 11:44
Shadow don’t got a symbiote it’s implying his alien powers from the alien half of his dna is coming out
I'm so glad you're reacting to this!
If you guys decide to go down a sonic game rabbit hole and don't know where to start, ask me! ( I'm subscribed to the patreon)
I'm with radioSEGA and I've been around the block for the bulk of the games. I even have my own completed podcast diving into every ost for all the sonic games
Oh yeah it’s time for you two to learn all about Shadow origin story which right now is perfect timing for you two since the third Sonic movie is literally right around the corner and will also dive deep into the story behind Shadow with one major different that has to do with one of the two important people to Shadow and their fate which I won’t spoil but all I’ll say is you’ve now been introduced to him
If you need a brief history on shadow, look up the video Something about Shadow the Hedgehog. It's funny.
Thanks for recommendation 🙂
The smaller sonic is sonic from the older 2d games and the bigger one from the 3d games love rogues character hated the fight agenst her in adventure 2 and the robot who was saying dibs is omega I don't know any specific videos but it might be worth looking for one explaining the games time line
Shadow is absolute bada$$. My Boi. 🔥🔥🔥👌🏾
The animations in the beginning really hit hard... when you know the story from Sonic Adventure 2 (where Shadow was introduced) everything hits you so much harder. They could do an entire animated series from those 3 episodes. I remember when Adventure 2 came out. Everyone was hyped!!
"Sonic Jr" Is actually just a younger version of sonic taken from an earlier point in the timeline, he joins the present day sonic on a time travelling adventure to save time and space from eggman and his time devouring monster.
To distinguish them, The younger sonic is referred to as "Classic Sonic", while his older self is referred to as "Modern Sonic"
One, I am glad y’all reacted to the game trailers too. Two, since you’re new to this, Sonic Generations is about a creature that tears through time and space and it sucks the life out of their world. So the “sonic jr” it actually past/classic Sonic. Both Modern Sonic and Classic Sonic team up to stop the creature. That all happened 2011. This time, it’s the same game but they also made it to where you can play in shadows perspective. And not to spoil and going based off the trailers, that starfish with an eye is Black Doom. Shadows creator. And he also takes part in what the monster is doing and Shadow has to stop him. During all that, he unlocks what you saw was Doom Powers like morph, wings, and surf. Again, it’s okay if you didn’t know and I am glad to provide this non spoiler version of what y’all have seen 🙏can’t wait for more Sonic X Shadow Generations content
Dark Beginnings is one of the best media we have ever gotten from the Sonic series, and it did such an OUTSTANDING job showcasing Shadow's character and lore.
Gamewise, guys that's not "Sonic Jr.", it's Classic Sonic, as in Sonic from the past, because Sonic Generations involves time travel.
Shadow is my favorite character and this made me love his character more and also of you should play this game next for the live stream
The context for the moon in pieces is that
In sonic adventure 2(sega dreamcast/nintendo gamecube) TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO PLANET EARTH SO THAT G.U.N MILITARY WILL SUBMIT, Eggman basically highjacks the ark and blows up a huge portion of the moon and threatens to do the same with earth
The animation mentioned that Shadow has “Black Arms” alien DNA in him, so the thing you thought was like a symbiotic is actually that DNA becoming more active and him learning to wield it his own way.
It’s Sonic’s past self.
Of course Ian is behind the writing to this amazing Prologue + Game. He's also the guy who helped write the Sonic IDW, and with how amazing that is, I'm not surprised he's behind the writing of this. I watched the Prologue Preview when it released, and I was sad to only see a minute of such an amazing Prologue. But once episode 1 released, I was amazed. At everything; The animation, writing, SEGA finally delving in Shadow and Maria's relationship, EMERL COMING BACK!! When episode 2 released, I was just as overjoyed--Omega and Rouge arrived, thus Team Dark is complete! And the heterochromia general finally has a canonical name! (Abraham Tower). Episode 3 was all feels---Shadow having premonitions of a future where Maria and him are on Earth together--An unreachable future, a future that never came to be. The flower field Shadow and Maria were in are called *Balloon Flowers,* and they represent *endless love* and the *desire for the return of a friend.* WHY IAN?!
Seriously though, I'm so glad they finally made a game all about Shadow after 19 years (the last game was Shadow '05)!! Plus, it talked more about Maria's illness and how it effected her, as well as Shadow and Maria's time on the ARK. Plus, the SXSG's game ending....That broke me. Got the game last Friday (October 25th), and beat it on Saturday (October 26th). Took me a day to beat, when it took most people 4-5 hours...Lol. Anyways, as a 16 year old fan who's been a Sonic -addict- fan for a whole decade, (since I was 6) Shadow Generations exceeded all expectations--Thank you Ian! (Didn't play Sonic Generations since I already played that game in 2013 when I was 6-7)
Also, you should totally react to the Shadow Generations cutscenes! They're all super amazing. Of course, that is if you've already played the game, or if you haven't and are only interested in the story for the game.
I hope you guys watch the shadow stuff for the game. The story about shadow is in it and the cut scenes are wonderful
“When did Sonic get a kid?”
NOOOOOOOO!! 😭
This is like when someone calls Link “Zelda”. lol
Favorite game Of Sonic 🔥🔥🔥🔥
22:48 Yeah, Maria is a tragic character. Afflicted with an uncurrable (unknown) disease, and shot dead trying to save Shadow.
Their bond is very much like sibilings. She is such a sweet character.🩵💙
For Wild Card Wednesdays, i think you should put "The Complete Lore of Project Shadow" by Chaomix on one of the polls. For what may be the inly consistent plot thread in Sonic, it's nice to see it all wrapped together in a video like this.
Actually it’s not his kid it’s his past self from when sonic was a kid
The one you call Sonic junior is actually the same sonic, just younger. We call him the Classic Sonic. The adult sonic, we call Modern Sonic. They're the same sonic, from two points of their life.
yea he basically gets a symbiote for this game giving him new powers for this game
Glad to see you guys learning more and more about Shadow. I loved the original Sonic Generations game, so this Shadow add on story is going to be so much fun for me. Also, glad you guys get to see and kind of learn about Rouge in these trailers. Rouge is a treasure hunter and loves shiny things, and is also an agent. In the older games and the anime, she was a rival for Knuckles since she loves treasure and shiny things, and of course with Knuckles main goal being to protect the master emerald and the emerald being a giant shiny treasure, they clashed a few times. Also while Knuckles strength are all in the fist, Rouge’s strength are in her kicks. Shes good though and is friends with the main cast
You guys should totally play Sonic X Shadow Generations and complete the story :)
Funny you mentioned RWBY and the broken moon. The song at the end of the animatic is performed by Casey Lee Williams, the main singer for RWBY's soundtrack 🙂
the kid is just sonic from the past
There are other Sonic animations on youtube you guys might like, such as
Sonic Mania Adventures
Team Sonic Racing Overdrive
Chao in Space
Sonic Colors Rise of the Wisps
Sonic Frontiers: Knuckles Prologue
Sonic Superstars: Trio of Trouble
There's also Tailstube an ongoing series, which is used to explain the world of Sonic.
I really hope you guys cover more sonic content in the future. My suggestion is a fan creation by Chakra X called Sonic Nazo Unleashed. It's heavily inspired by Dragon Ball Z and essentially bred an entire generation of fan created Sonic content.
its a time travel game so its past sonic whose levels are sidescrollers like the old games, the present sonic with newer 3d levels, and now shadow
That’s Classic Sonic… from the SEGA Genesis games! lol
It’s just a different design to represent his past self.
You guys gotta react to the IDW comic dub it would be awesome
You guys gotta watch the game cutscenes
I really loved these animations, and I'm happy to see Shadow's lore finally receiving more attention.
Plus, I would love if you guys reacted to "There's Something About Amy" by Mashed, it's a really interesting fan animation that it's more intense than it seems.
Ken I’m telling you now no soinc did not have a kid that him back in the 19 ok 😅
thank you guys for reacting to this i genuinely was really excited for this reaction video!!!!!!!!
RAAAAH ITS SO EDGY AND I LOVE IT🗣️🗣️
Will you be reacting to this game's cutscenes, or play this game?
You guys need to watch the Squadron 42 release trailer.
Not Sonic's kid! It's past Sonic!
You should watch all the cutscenes because i really like the story or at the very least play the game because you get 2 good experiences
You should react to all cutscenes from every sonic game and/or all final boss fights.
little sonic is just younger sonic not his kid.
Pls react to kof lore too it's so underrated and is magnificent
King of Fighters? If so, then yes! 100% agree! Thorgi's Arcade has a full series retrospective, perfect for a reaction binge!
You guys should totally check out the Dragon Ball Sparking Zero girl talk i think you'd really enjoy it
You guys should play this game!
hi! been loving your sonic reactions!! would you ever consider doing a reaction to some of the Sonic TV shows? i recommend either Sonic Prime or Sonic Boom, Sonic Prime is more serious story-wise while Sonic Boom is more of a comedy show (both are still enjoyable!)
Wait is this animation part of the game or is it a seperate thing for a prequel
Shadow was made to cure marias space aids and no im not kidding or exaggerating
A channel called C.Funk99 has a excellent movie edit of Sonic Adventure 2's story you can check out, if you want to see Shadow and Rouge's debut.
15:10 that's not sonic's kid.....that sonic from sonic 1 or sonic when he was young if you see the footage of "kid sonic" is all 2d and other sonic is 3d and 2d mixed
Why did they reacted to the trailer man those are just spoilers
I hope you guy play the game
This was a good reaction.
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FINALLYYY 🎉🎉
When you returning rwby volume 9 return
Reaction mk1 ghostface trailer
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Excellent reaction as always! You'd be surprised at how many Sonic fans are subscribers of yours, and would love more reactions of the franchise!
Personally, I'd recommend TheMentok and Ace Card Gaming if you guys want to deepdive into the lore and characters, and there's a bunch of cool content like animations and comics by the community worthy of reactions(Sonic Shorts by Sonic Paradox, Project Shadow by JoaoFilipeSantiago, Nazo Unleashed by Chakra X, Super Mario Bros Z by Mark Haynes, Sonic Stop Motion Adventures by Piplupfan77, adaptations of the official IDW comics by Adrenaline Dubs, the comedy skits by Jehtt and RandomGoonVO, and so much more!)
Also, about other topics, i still hope you check out PopCross Studios and Thorgi's Arcade on your channel in the near future!
Thanks for all these recommendations on more Sonic stuff 😅