6:25 This Actually Wasn't An AI Cover, It's Stolen Content Using The Cover Of AI, Which Is Even Scarier To Think Someone Could Get Away With. (the original is arranged by The 8-Bit Big Band, and it appears that the "A.I" cover was taken down) (Edit: i compared the two in the past, and listening to it within the video it does sound different, so i'm not sure if it's compression or a reupload with actual ai in it, but the original version of the video did not contain AI content)
Regarding the AI covers, I love that Schlatt actually learned how to sing and made a _real_ vocal cover of My Way (which got copyright claimed a few months after release), sounds amazing, and is working on a Christmas album. If anything positive comes out of AI, I would imagine that it pushes certain people to create more, to put real effort and time into making a better, more human version of what the machine does, or make something that only a human could make.
@@pizzarellayt if you listen closely, you can hear robotic artifacting in his note changes. Whenever the singer goes off pitch, there is a slight delay before the program corrects it for them. I heard it quite noticeably a few times throughout the song. I get why he did it. It makes sense. But it explains why he sounds silky smooth compared to his normal voice
So I'm biased here, but as a veteran of the Vocaloid and UTAU community, seeing this rapid evolution of AI as a means of vocal imitation has been both fascinating and terrifying. In our sphere, artificial covers are nothing new; UTAU has been used for it for as long as the program has been around. But every cover was made by hand through splicing and tuning individual syllables of audio that you went and gathered yourself. It was tedious as hell, and the end result still sounded pretty artificial most of the time. But people still did it, because they wanted to hear their favorite character sing their favorite song THAT badly. It's so strange hearing these AI covers now, because although sound-wise it's everything I've been yearning for for years, it also feels incredibly hollow. The vocals sound more human than ever, but it's because the human element has been removed from the creation process. I feel like I've made a wish upon a monkey's paw.
As a writer, it scares the shit out of me knowing that I’ll have to complete with an endless mountain of slop that is “good enough” for the majority of consumers
I just hope that people realize that art is an expression of mind and emotion, not some algorithm set by a computer. Sure it can do some cool stuff, but AI will never fathom those concepts
And not just only in the music spectrum. As an animator, seeing AI practically replace some of our jobs is heartbreaking. The creativity and passion put into making animations just gets seeped away into the abyss. Its just an empty void of professional art that wasnt truly created.
Indeed. Although I'm not as good as I was before, I still have respect for animators, professionals and beginners alike. Seeing AI replace seemingly everything I'm passionate about hurts me.
I totally agree with this, as someone who's passionate about putting animations out there. There are so many ideas and passions out there that have yet to be realised by so many people because of the fact that whatever can be made will be drowned in a pile of ai content. This is incredibly discouraging to me and others, and will continue to be, for so many people. I feel that just not just people in the industry now could be affected, but possible future animators and creatives in the industry too, honestly.
I miss those “TH-camrs sing” videos where they took clips of videos and clipped them together. They actually took some effort at least, and they where wayyy more entertaining
I'm lost on this comment, the only times he shows AI "art" is when he's being critical of it. Aside from one time at 3:04 from what I could see. Unless this is just sarcasm in which case, carry on.
first off, thank you for bringing light to the situation, as an artist myself i think its important to set boundaries with how we use ai. second, thank you for bringing my attention to "i think, uhh, seagulls... they fly." that was really funny
They firework maker never intended the gun, the plastic inventor never intended garbage island, the ai scientist never intended the destruction of art. I'm resigned that pandoras box is opened and this is the new reality. Hopefully like whats come before it'll lead to some good, somewhere
Very interesting seeing Metro Boomin in that list of people who signed that petition, considering that BBL Drizzy used an AI generated song in the beat.
I have a mixture of feelings about this. AI covers are definitely a weird sort of puppetry, where we are reaching through time to ensure the performers we love still dance for us. It's a sign we want so much more from these artists long gone, but instead of appreciating their art, we try imitating their work. But, when I think about the intent of these covers - mostly for humour - I find it difficult to condemn indiscriminately. I don't think it's an indictment on the human race that we are curious about new technology and like to laugh. But I also hope people do go discover or know the original work that is used in covers they watch. Also, I don't think anything will kill the innate human drive to create original works and I think the quality will always show no matter what. So I don't think this spells doom for music, I believe people will always seek out original works. I may be naive to say AI won't bring about 'the great replacement' of music but I'm certain it will remain a sideshow piece.
As a creative I've found solace in the fact that AI is a thing nobody will stop & there is no point in worrying anymore. It's going to keep getting better & more convincing over time, and there's next to nothing we can do. I can personally only try to adapt to this landscape and take in what helps me with my work or my day to day life. I think we should all drop down our morality highground hats and stop pretending that if we completely deny AI it will go away, and instead try and steer this AI craze in a positive direction that benefits us all, not just giant tech companies.
Accepting it won't fix it's problems tho, not the concerns about it gathering data without permission, not the environmental concerns, or the fact that deepfakes have gotten waaaayyy easier with it and people are already using it to scam and to make fake porn of random people, much less the concerns about people getting fired over it (there have been multiple cases of people training an AI on an artist's work and then firing them), just accepting it will just give the pass for company's to fuck over artists
no, ai cannot just make its own original music up, it just gets 'inspired' (yea get mad over this) from other songs and culminate it into a mushy song that's baseless and tastes like metal.
Composer here, people likely will want to pay for music written by humans. AI music kills culture, there was no passion in its production, and therefore no value. Even beginning music producers put more passion into their work than AI. There is a reason for why people become "fans" of certain artists. It's because something they make identifies with them, the same can't be said for AI "artists".
I miss when the presidents saying X videos were actually made by copy pasting together clips of stuff they actually said. Then you could always be hit with the wtf he actually said that? Or wow that's impressive that the person who made the video clipped together bits of words to make him say that. Now it's just ai made him say all of it, none of it has any uniqueness
as one of the people who knew about ai cover tech when it was obscure and made it even more popular in several ways including the frank sinatra one mentioned in the video. My response to this is "oopsie". Also yes, Taylor Swift can actualy take them down. One of my Taylor Swift ai covers was contractually obligated to be taken down by youtube to the point that theres no reuploads of it despite it having millions of views prior to it being taken down which is pretty impressive of youtube
I mostly don’t like AI beyond those funny shitposts made with AI like music covers n whatever else people make shitposts with AI. However I am also very much against copyright, I think copyright does more harm to small artists than it could ever help as I believe from what I’ve seen that it exists primarily to protect the “intellectual property” of big corporations since they have the capital to A) expend the time and resources on copyright, and B) lobby to extend their control of their copyright. I firmly believe that art would be better without copyright and that “intellectual property” should be shared. And so that means that even though I have a moral stance against things like AI art, my firm copyright abolitionist take means I think AI is a necessity. People need to be allowed to make AI with anyone and everyone’s art so that people can be allowed to make transformative art like TH-cam Poops or reviews or whatever else without the legal stink of copyright.
I know it's not the point, and it's not really a counterpoint that I'm making, just a thought I had while watching. If someone is dead, they don't/ can't care. So to say someone's reputation is uprooted, while accurate in a certain regard, is only really a matter of perspective, because I promise that if you dig up frank and ask, he'll have nothing to say on the matter. Like I said, just a thought I had.
Looking at what AI can already do, it does kind of worry me, but as RandsomwaveRBLX had said, it would be better to move it in a positive direction instead of ignoring it, but it is at a point where it is very in between "Oh this is good" to "Oh this isnt... The best" which yeah, its only been around for 2 or so years (in a sort of more public and major way).
this video is great. i agree with a lot of the points you make. ai is scary and there's so many things that don't feel fully humane or right to be doing that are happening every day. i like parts of your editing style as well! i'd like to say, though, you can take this in whatever way you want, but from a viewer's perspective, but i am going to (hopefully politely enough?) nitpick 2 certain editing style choices i found overwhelming - the meme/audio clips in the middle of sentences, and the multitude of different gifs playing at once can be distracting and feel less coherent. but overall, i really enjoyed this video and it was nice to see someone bring attention to this in the format you did. thank you :)
I remember seeing this video where it was basically taking the big iron song, and turning it into an insult directed towards a comment saying how disrespectful the genre(?, subcategory maybe?) of big iron songs that are basically cutting lyrics and rearranging them into different words and sentences And then I see this video, which reminded me about that video, which just makes me think that even AI just does what the people did; getting snippets of vocies and mashing them together into new words and sentences, as well as the AI doing some heavy lifting to make the song not sound so choppy with the big iron ones made by actual people. But even then how these two scenarios are similar, the ones made by AI are just following instructions, while the ones made by humans are actual commitments of effort and creativity. One puts words in the mouth of people, usually without their consent and may even be dead, while the other takes those original words from people and mashes it into something that has a basis on the people they are taking the words from, but churning it into something more original and "human" recognizable by it's unique flaws that an algorithim could not repeat unless being instructed to do so.
this video made me realize something. i always feel ashamed for making toy guns out of Lego, im a young adult making toys from lego of weapons of war, yet whenever i see a ai video or whatever i always remember that what im making have actual importance and actual meaning, even if just for me. because ai content is just like a youtube short video, worthless meaningless and only exist to be quickly forgotten later. its gambling but without the copeing chance of maybe you earning money.
Basically: if you want to hear a character sing a song, it should be the actual actor (or someone who does a really good impression if said character) singing it. Practice your impressions, people. Otherwise just consume the original media!
Dude, most of these Ai covers are just simply meant for humor and giggles. Plus, it's nice to hear some random VA made from AI from a random show singing a random song and somehow has the voice to beat Taylor Swift. Trust me, stop hating on AI Covers, if you want human-made effort + AI, this is the best shot we get
Yea this video and comment just comes off as puritanical moral grandstanding bullshit, all over something that’s ultimately not doing any actual harm to anyone but they want to grasp at straws to make it seem like it somehow is. AI Covers aren’t doing any actual harm. They’re just parody content. Squidward Tentacles singing My Way harms no one except maybe the egos of litigious paramount & record company executives. I’m not gonna act like AI has been a complete net positive, it hasn’t. There’s definitely many bad shit that’s come from the advent and proliferation of AI (deepfakes, scams etc). If your going to hate something related to AI go spend your time and energy on that instead of throwing a tantrum about how AI Covers on TH-cam are “ruining” music
Well unoriginality is also a big problem, but lets solve AI before not being creativite. Plus I'll always prefer imitations of voices for covers (like toad or waluigi) over AI stuff. Moon base alpha used as a vocaloid/tool rather than an AI voice.
About legacy, one of the things that's been happening lately with Linkin Park is very much in line with what you're saying. The laste singer died 7 years ago, and yet, people use AI to make him "cover" newer songs with the new singer. The disrespect for his legacy and the new singer, for the band as a whole, is immense. AI just ruins it.
Honestly these people just need to try and use voicebanks like Vocaloid for this, but they probably won’t because their brains can’t handle working the software.
When I saw these popping up, I began making use of the “not interested” option. I DO NOT want to hear AI voices singing music. I want the human element of it.
As someone who went into the art sphere for a couple of years then into 3d posters.its completely fine to have ai but i beleive the limit for ai should be the human personality and mind. In simple terms sure they can add their voice to any song because its just music but changing their personality and LYING about what they did because the internet distorts thing so much. And finally to close it off ai is just a mimic and has no weight. Remember power is given by the people as we do with words. So don't let it scare you and don't let it take your rights away.
as someone who made AI Mickey covers with the voice of the late Wayne Allwine, i'm so sorry. I only made these as jokes, i never intended to profit off them, and i thought that was ok enough i am so sorry
I feel that Ai is actually keeping alive the legacy of the artists that have passed on, keeping their memories alive for hopefully generations to come. Ai keeps these names, like Frank Sinatra and others in the public consciousness for just a bit longer than they might have been otherwise, though using their likeness without permission is definitely sketchy and especially profiting off of them is not the greatest thing either but this is happening and it will continue to happen, that is just how new technologies are. Eventually we just have to accept the reality regardless of if we like it or not, we can of course fight against it and delay it but eventually people will just stop caring as more important matters will take precedence and this issue will just be forgotten and in a few generations it will be the new normal alongside "normal" music. It is said that a person dies twice, once when he is buried and the second time his name is said for the last time.
I love how many words people who support AI have to use to even start justifiying anything, while 3 words is enough to make a counter argument; "AI Kills creativity."
While I agree with the points about AI stealing creator's works without compensation, and about AI ruining reputation. And I do believe that there needs to be more regulations against AI. I have to disagree about AI ruining Legacy and originality First off I do not believe that AI has done enough damage to Artist or brand by simply creating a fun cover. If anything I'd argue that it spread more awareness about certant artist. Let's be real here, how many of modern day teenagers/kids listen or even know of Frank Sinatra? Even if out of every 100 teens only 1 will not only listen but fall in love with Frank's music and decides to take music on a more serious level because of these silly covers, that would mean that out of about a million people who watched this cover, there would still be about ten thousand people who decided to seriously pursue music. But even ignoring that, do you seriously think that nirvana's legacy will be destroyed and they will be removed from rock and roll hall of fame, because some kid made a Kurt Cobain cover of gangam style? With the amount of impact some of these artists have made, I don't think AI covers are going harm their legacy in any way. Especially since after a while the novelty of all that will fade away and AI covers will become way more niche. I also don't belive that AI voices (and AI in generall) is an attack on human creativity. Just because someone is using AI doesn't mean they don't any put effort into anything else. There are a ton of Vocaloid songs that use AI voice synthesizers that, in my opinion, are genuene master pieces like Lagtrain, Disappearance of Hatsune Miku or that nameless Kisaragi station song. This isn't only about songs though, Shadok used AI voices to voice act in their web show "Loveweb" (and it's pretty good, I highly recomend it), way before AI became a hot topic and before Shadok had the funds for real VAs. So who's to say that if, for example, Trent Reznor or Weird Al release their own way more in depth AI voice programm without any moraly questionable problems, nobody's going to use it to create genuenly good and original stuff. So if there are going to be more regulations about AI that will make it perfectly moral (like not allowing companies to use AI to fully replace humans, not allowing companies to train AIs on work of artists that didn't give consent), I believe it could be used as an amazing tool that will help people create genuenly good stuff.
The utilitarianist in me says, if it sounds good it's good. The realist says, it doesn't sound good. And the creature that enjoys the stories we tell ourselves, is dissapointed, that the story to be told, was a button press by the gray masses. Eventually we will create a creature, that lives, and tells a story, perhaps the creaturelets we have, already mix the stories we've told them into semi unique concoctions, but i cannot sympathise with that which i do not perceive.
This def gonna get lost but You are literally my favorite TH-camr ever. Hands down. Thank you for creating inspiring content that’s also VERY entertaining. I wish I was able to express thoughts and ideas in such a beautiful way.
okay, but what about mashups? i feel like i heard people saying similar things, that they are unoriginal or are slandering an artist's reputation or original intent; however, and i may be a biased in this, i very much enjoy a good mashup, and i think it is a beautiful method of both preservation and re-contextualization of the past
tbh i agree with mike tyson's take on legacy. what does it matter if these old singers and musicians are being used to make ai covers of meme songs and such?
I watched a few of these back when they were first popping up. Genuinely funny to hear Sinatra rap or Hitler singing anime or some weird crap like that. I also remember Freddy Mercury singing the Evangelion intro and it sounded legitimately good. But it got old so fast.
I think the reason people are making AI covers is because people don't want to put in the effort to actually make things and don't have dedication to anything.
No? AI Covers are just human-made songs that are painted with another one's voice (e.g Double Life sang by the Minions). It's really the most harmless out of all the AI bunch. plus, making ai covers is real hard if you want to make some real quality ones. (ever heard of RVC? Volume Envelope? Consonant Protection? Vocal Remover?)
So by that logic is all parody content “effortless” in your view? Are Weird Al Yankovic and Mel Blanc hacks for parodying genres and pre existing songs and movies? Are Vocaloids lazy? Seems real nice to just swathe everyone under the brush of having unsympathetic traits. If you really think that people only make AI Covers for those reasons than to be logically consistent your answers should be yes to what I have proposed to you
@@boxylemons7961 But the difference between Weird Al and A.I. covers is that Al actually sings the songs. People who use Vocaloid write the lyrics. While people who make A.I. covers just throw audio clips of someone then put a song someone made into that same software and tell the A.I. to make the vocals sound like it was sung by said person. When in reality it was not.
Do you think it still poses a problem if its more of a meme cover, like the Warhammer Space Marine singing I'm Still Standing by Elton John? I can absolutely agree that using the voices of the dead to cover modern songs, or the voices of the living to cover songs completely unrelated to them is a problem.
holy molly. I mean, I dont have a big opinion on AI but I mainly don’t like the way it removes effort. When anything is made some sort of work is put in to start and finish it and in the case of AI, it just does it for you, which removes effort and makes it (I guess) less enjoyable in general. Idk
For that generated song you used as an example of a "wrong" towards the end, i showed this piece to my dad, but without any context. He liked it, saying this is an experimental style So... I guess the context ruined it for you?
Ai ruins legacy for sure but the Frank Sinatra example is too funny and also good for me to be mad at. But it is a slippery slope for sure and is probably disrespectful.
I agree with most points in the video, other than the "estate" points, but disagree with the usage of the words "us" and "we". It is important to be pedantic with such topics, especially when it involves ongoing legislation for a "new" industry and techbros who are still mad about crypto flopping.
What damage? the AI is imitating the voice of dead people, sure. But a human could do that to if they tried. AI isn't getting the artists to say these things or sing those songs, just imitating them
I've had the same opinion on AI covers. I heard one In a random video out the blue and immediately skipped to the end of that part. One time I was looking for a TTS and came across a AI cover maker... thing instead and was slightly insulted because If I really wanted to make a TTS sing I would open up Audacity and edit It around, and then open GarageBand and use the vocal transformer to smoothen It out (I've used It before to humanize TTS a little.) It's a long process, but It's better then making a robot do the whole thing and be lazy while It shits It out. Is this comment necessary? Not really, but I thought I'd have to say something.
What about transformative content? You know, taking something and transforming it into something original. I’m not defending AI, I just know for a fact that some artists take samples of other songs for their instrumentals. Like Nakey Jakey using one of the songs from Berserk 1997 for one of his tracks.
Culture and values are constantly changing, but it is known that "there is nothing new under the sun". My thought is that it is pointless to hold on to ideas like "copyright" and "legacy" because, especially in recent times, they have not been able to hold their own against the will of the people. I do think that it is interesting with AI to imagine that it will outperform us in so many aspects that we would consider it a "higher power" or something of the like. Robotics obviously will play a large part in the advancement of that though the original meaning of the word "robot" is quite inevitable. Perchance. Oh you like to work? You have survival instincts that can be tapped into that force your work to be more productive? It really is too bad we had that Industrial Revolution to cement our culture and values in producing to no end. It is unlikely the human race will ever recover.
is it weird that i find it less problematic to use singers that already died (like sinatra)? (btw i think AI voice covers aren't something that should be profited off in any way shape or form, but don't have all that much problem with them just existing as long as they don't have influence over/on the original artists) I don't think a dead person can have their reputation destroyed in such a way. because they aren't here anymore, they also can't have a fall from grace. At most their voice does, but never the person themselves. I do also think that Sinatra hasen't been this popular in decades and is a singer that younger generations wouldn't be exposed to as much if it wasn't for the recent outbreak of covers of his music or using his sweet and silky voice. Ontop of that AI covers like these are very much a temporary thing like all other memes on the internet (99.99% of the time) and they drown themselves out in the shear number of them that are out there.
Yeah…AI is here to stay lmao. Push back all you want, the cat has since left the bag-look at the singularity subreddit or any AI news coverage on YT and you’ll see how AI is not only improving the world as we know it, but isn’t leaving just because an oldhead said so or calls to action to stop it. Times are changing, and being a Luddite about it is, for lack of a better word, useless. I myself don’t think AI art is good, most of it is pretty bad and even slop-like, but even as an artist, I recognize that it’s here to stay regardless of what I think, which is generally what you *should* do. AI won’t trump or replace “real” art (whatever real and AI art/music is, the line is slowly being blurred), hell you didn’t even talk about Udio or Suno AI, which are more important to your argument than AI covers that will eventually become more advanced sure, but think about it like this-vocal AI moves at a snail’s pace. It’s been nearly 3 years and RVC is still the only good way to make these covers. Elevenlabs is still, after almost 3 years, the only voice cloning tts AI that you can potentially use for VA. OpenAI’s 4o Voice model is still closed off to the rest of us and are not open source. Udio AI and Suno are the actual heavy hitters, as they can create competent, good music with good enough prompt engineering or even simple prompting. Those AI are actually “dangerous”, but aren’t treated as such because you and I can make decent music with a couple words and a specific feeling. Which is how it’s gonna stay, and how you view that is depending on your side of history you want to be on, so to speak.
What a powerful video! I definitely have my own share of anxiety caused by AI entering our lives and seeing so much pushback against those predatory uses of AI makes me think maybe the good people on this Earth will pevent society from collapsing within the next century.
I love that many of you are sharing your thoughts about this issue. Please do not hesitate to give your opinion on AI, doesn’t matter what it is!
Question, why the usage of AI art in this video? I agree with you, but that's a pretty big contradiction.
6:25 This Actually Wasn't An AI Cover, It's Stolen Content Using The Cover Of AI, Which Is Even Scarier To Think Someone Could Get Away With. (the original is arranged by The 8-Bit Big Band, and it appears that the "A.I" cover was taken down)
(Edit: i compared the two in the past, and listening to it within the video it does sound different, so i'm not sure if it's compression or a reupload with actual ai in it, but the original version of the video did not contain AI content)
Regarding the AI covers, I love that Schlatt actually learned how to sing and made a _real_ vocal cover of My Way (which got copyright claimed a few months after release), sounds amazing, and is working on a Christmas album. If anything positive comes out of AI, I would imagine that it pushes certain people to create more, to put real effort and time into making a better, more human version of what the machine does, or make something that only a human could make.
I love that he dropped thousands of dollars on recording mixing and mastering just to shit on AI. It was beautiful 😭
I mean it's auto tuned to death. I don't think his singing is as peak as everyone is making it out to be
@@chickenman22710 Is it? I don't think it is
@@pizzarellayt if you listen closely, you can hear robotic artifacting in his note changes. Whenever the singer goes off pitch, there is a slight delay before the program corrects it for them. I heard it quite noticeably a few times throughout the song.
I get why he did it. It makes sense. But it explains why he sounds silky smooth compared to his normal voice
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So I'm biased here, but as a veteran of the Vocaloid and UTAU community, seeing this rapid evolution of AI as a means of vocal imitation has been both fascinating and terrifying. In our sphere, artificial covers are nothing new; UTAU has been used for it for as long as the program has been around. But every cover was made by hand through splicing and tuning individual syllables of audio that you went and gathered yourself. It was tedious as hell, and the end result still sounded pretty artificial most of the time. But people still did it, because they wanted to hear their favorite character sing their favorite song THAT badly. It's so strange hearing these AI covers now, because although sound-wise it's everything I've been yearning for for years, it also feels incredibly hollow. The vocals sound more human than ever, but it's because the human element has been removed from the creation process. I feel like I've made a wish upon a monkey's paw.
I think it comes down to how effortless AI-covers are compared to Vocaloids.
As a writer, it scares the shit out of me knowing that I’ll have to complete with an endless mountain of slop that is “good enough” for the majority of consumers
Literally while writing this essay Apple announced their own AI with those features built into the next I phone. I totally feel your fear
I just hope that people realize that art is an expression of mind and emotion, not some algorithm set by a computer. Sure it can do some cool stuff, but AI will never fathom those concepts
@retropixels873 if most people already didn't understand before AI, it's only going down from here
Well most AI knows how to spell "compete". Seems like you have a long road ahead of you.
And not just only in the music spectrum. As an animator, seeing AI practically replace some of our jobs is heartbreaking. The creativity and passion put into making animations just gets seeped away into the abyss. Its just an empty void of professional art that wasnt truly created.
Indeed. Although I'm not as good as I was before, I still have respect for animators, professionals and beginners alike. Seeing AI replace seemingly everything I'm passionate about hurts me.
I totally agree with this, as someone who's passionate about putting animations out there. There are so many ideas and passions out there that have yet to be realised by so many people because of the fact that whatever can be made will be drowned in a pile of ai content. This is incredibly discouraging to me and others, and will continue to be, for so many people. I feel that just not just people in the industry now could be affected, but possible future animators and creatives in the industry too, honestly.
I miss those “TH-camrs sing” videos where they took clips of videos and clipped them together. They actually took some effort at least, and they where wayyy more entertaining
They were pretty cool
We still have Schmoyoho 🔥🔥🔥
Can't take this video seriosly with all the usage of AI art in it
agreed
To call it art is to give it more respect than it deserves. It is nothing more than an image.
I'm lost on this comment, the only times he shows AI "art" is when he's being critical of it. Aside from one time at 3:04 from what I could see. Unless this is just sarcasm in which case, carry on.
first off, thank you for bringing light to the situation, as an artist myself i think its important to set boundaries with how we use ai.
second, thank you for bringing my attention to "i think, uhh, seagulls... they fly." that was really funny
My heart dropped when I realize you’ve been posting and I haven’t noticed, highest quality videos I’ve seen by a small creator
He asked us to pay attention to the long letter but is showing us Tower of Nervous Sweating of GIFs and images while he’s reading it.
Oops I meant tons but keyboard shortcuts
They firework maker never intended the gun, the plastic inventor never intended garbage island, the ai scientist never intended the destruction of art. I'm resigned that pandoras box is opened and this is the new reality. Hopefully like whats come before it'll lead to some good, somewhere
I mean even though the fireworks led to the guns we still have fireworks to enjoy, so we'll definitely have something similar with ai
wow i didn't expect to see schlatt here
Very interesting seeing Metro Boomin in that list of people who signed that petition, considering that BBL Drizzy used an AI generated song in the beat.
I have a mixture of feelings about this. AI covers are definitely a weird sort of puppetry, where we are reaching through time to ensure the performers we love still dance for us. It's a sign we want so much more from these artists long gone, but instead of appreciating their art, we try imitating their work. But, when I think about the intent of these covers - mostly for humour - I find it difficult to condemn indiscriminately. I don't think it's an indictment on the human race that we are curious about new technology and like to laugh. But I also hope people do go discover or know the original work that is used in covers they watch.
Also, I don't think anything will kill the innate human drive to create original works and I think the quality will always show no matter what. So I don't think this spells doom for music, I believe people will always seek out original works. I may be naive to say AI won't bring about 'the great replacement' of music but I'm certain it will remain a sideshow piece.
As a creative I've found solace in the fact that AI is a thing nobody will stop & there is no point in worrying anymore. It's going to keep getting better & more convincing over time, and there's next to nothing we can do. I can personally only try to adapt to this landscape and take in what helps me with my work or my day to day life. I think we should all drop down our morality highground hats and stop pretending that if we completely deny AI it will go away, and instead try and steer this AI craze in a positive direction that benefits us all, not just giant tech companies.
Very well said. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
i completely disagree, AI has not taken over yet so voicing concern will make lawmakers make better decisions when it comes to restricting AI
legislation about ai for creative commercial use needs to be put into place. It is unethical, no matter how accurate it will get.
Accepting it won't fix it's problems tho, not the concerns about it gathering data without permission, not the environmental concerns, or the fact that deepfakes have gotten waaaayyy easier with it and people are already using it to scam and to make fake porn of random people, much less the concerns about people getting fired over it (there have been multiple cases of people training an AI on an artist's work and then firing them), just accepting it will just give the pass for company's to fuck over artists
No truer Words have been said
As someone who had a dream of producing music I feel like giving up because of this, ai is just going to get better with time
No!! Go produce music!! I wanna hear it!!
As long as there are humans there will be people who want to hear music made by humans.
no, ai cannot just make its own original music up, it just gets 'inspired' (yea get mad over this) from other songs and culminate it into a mushy song that's baseless and tastes like metal.
Composer here, people likely will want to pay for music written by humans. AI music kills culture, there was no passion in its production, and therefore no value. Even beginning music producers put more passion into their work than AI. There is a reason for why people become "fans" of certain artists. It's because something they make identifies with them, the same can't be said for AI "artists".
Don't worry!!!!! It really isn't
I miss when the presidents saying X videos were actually made by copy pasting together clips of stuff they actually said. Then you could always be hit with the wtf he actually said that? Or wow that's impressive that the person who made the video clipped together bits of words to make him say that. Now it's just ai made him say all of it, none of it has any uniqueness
as one of the people who knew about ai cover tech when it was obscure and made it even more popular in several ways including the frank sinatra one mentioned in the video. My response to this is "oopsie". Also yes, Taylor Swift can actualy take them down. One of my Taylor Swift ai covers was contractually obligated to be taken down by youtube to the point that theres no reuploads of it despite it having millions of views prior to it being taken down which is pretty impressive of youtube
Bruh moment
Wait wtf yuuto ichika ⁉️
i dont feel threatened by this at all
so i'm pretty good with the ai covers when it's individuals having fun or what not....but big labels....that's really bad.
I mostly don’t like AI beyond those funny shitposts made with AI like music covers n whatever else people make shitposts with AI. However I am also very much against copyright, I think copyright does more harm to small artists than it could ever help as I believe from what I’ve seen that it exists primarily to protect the “intellectual property” of big corporations since they have the capital to A) expend the time and resources on copyright, and B) lobby to extend their control of their copyright.
I firmly believe that art would be better without copyright and that “intellectual property” should be shared. And so that means that even though I have a moral stance against things like AI art, my firm copyright abolitionist take means I think AI is a necessity. People need to be allowed to make AI with anyone and everyone’s art so that people can be allowed to make transformative art like TH-cam Poops or reviews or whatever else without the legal stink of copyright.
I know it's not the point, and it's not really a counterpoint that I'm making, just a thought I had while watching. If someone is dead, they don't/ can't care. So to say someone's reputation is uprooted, while accurate in a certain regard, is only really a matter of perspective, because I promise that if you dig up frank and ask, he'll have nothing to say on the matter. Like I said, just a thought I had.
Thank you for bringing attention to this! Why do we have to live in a society?
this was an absolutely incredible video covering this as i feel most are just videos complaining about it. you deserve the world!
Looking at what AI can already do, it does kind of worry me, but as RandsomwaveRBLX had said, it would be better to move it in a positive direction instead of ignoring it, but it is at a point where it is very in between "Oh this is good" to "Oh this isnt... The best" which yeah, its only been around for 2 or so years (in a sort of more public and major way).
this video is great. i agree with a lot of the points you make. ai is scary and there's so many things that don't feel fully humane or right to be doing that are happening every day. i like parts of your editing style as well! i'd like to say, though, you can take this in whatever way you want, but from a viewer's perspective, but i am going to (hopefully politely enough?) nitpick 2 certain editing style choices i found overwhelming - the meme/audio clips in the middle of sentences, and the multitude of different gifs playing at once can be distracting and feel less coherent. but overall, i really enjoyed this video and it was nice to see someone bring attention to this in the format you did. thank you :)
Where can I find that 1st use of an algorithm to make music? I'd like to feel that uncanny-ness.
6:58
Joe Hawley jump scare
we were able to put AI in a spotlight where it's objectively thought about instead of a consumption medium
Small mistake Jshlatt actually made a cover of my way by Frank Sinatra but I assume it got taken down due to copyright.
From what I found, it was originally posted as AI and Schlatt responded by recording his own version of My Way soon after the fact
That sounds about right.
I remember seeing this video where it was basically taking the big iron song, and turning it into an insult directed towards a comment saying how disrespectful the genre(?, subcategory maybe?) of big iron songs that are basically cutting lyrics and rearranging them into different words and sentences
And then I see this video, which reminded me about that video, which just makes me think that even AI just does what the people did; getting snippets of vocies and mashing them together into new words and sentences, as well as the AI doing some heavy lifting to make the song not sound so choppy with the big iron ones made by actual people.
But even then how these two scenarios are similar, the ones made by AI are just following instructions, while the ones made by humans are actual commitments of effort and creativity. One puts words in the mouth of people, usually without their consent and may even be dead, while the other takes those original words from people and mashes it into something that has a basis on the people they are taking the words from, but churning it into something more original and "human" recognizable by it's unique flaws that an algorithim could not repeat unless being instructed to do so.
the schlatt video is actually his voice. he made a video about it
other than that i agree with what you
Me sitting and waiting for the electric dreams reference 😞
Respect for saying ' raises the question' instead of the almost obligatory and erroneous ' begs the question' which drives so few of us bonkers.
this video made me realize something. i always feel ashamed for making toy guns out of Lego, im a young adult making toys from lego of weapons of war, yet whenever i see a ai video or whatever i always remember that what im making have actual importance and actual meaning, even if just for me.
because ai content is just like a youtube short video, worthless meaningless and only exist to be quickly forgotten later. its gambling but without the copeing chance of maybe you earning money.
sorry for the yapping
Basically: if you want to hear a character sing a song, it should be the actual actor (or someone who does a really good impression if said character) singing it. Practice your impressions, people.
Otherwise just consume the original media!
Dude, most of these Ai covers are just simply meant for humor and giggles. Plus, it's nice to hear some random VA made from AI from a random show singing a random song and somehow has the voice to beat Taylor Swift.
Trust me, stop hating on AI Covers, if you want human-made effort + AI, this is the best shot we get
Yea this video and comment just comes off as puritanical moral grandstanding bullshit, all over something that’s ultimately not doing any actual harm to anyone but they want to grasp at straws to make it seem like it somehow is.
AI Covers aren’t doing any actual harm. They’re just parody content. Squidward Tentacles singing My Way harms no one except maybe the egos of litigious paramount & record company executives.
I’m not gonna act like AI has been a complete net positive, it hasn’t. There’s definitely many bad shit that’s come from the advent and proliferation of AI (deepfakes, scams etc). If your going to hate something related to AI go spend your time and energy on that instead of throwing a tantrum about how AI Covers on TH-cam are “ruining” music
Please pay real voice actors 🙏🙏🙏
Well unoriginality is also a big problem, but lets solve AI before not being creativite. Plus I'll always prefer imitations of voices for covers (like toad or waluigi) over AI stuff. Moon base alpha used as a vocaloid/tool rather than an AI voice.
This reminded me to finish rewriting a fanfic I was working on.
Clicked on this for the J "Schlatt" cover, saw AI content. now sad because misleading
About legacy, one of the things that's been happening lately with Linkin Park is very much in line with what you're saying. The laste singer died 7 years ago, and yet, people use AI to make him "cover" newer songs with the new singer. The disrespect for his legacy and the new singer, for the band as a whole, is immense. AI just ruins it.
Honestly these people just need to try and use voicebanks like Vocaloid for this, but they probably won’t because their brains can’t handle working the software.
We really need a cyberpunk blackwall irl
When I saw these popping up, I began making use of the “not interested” option. I DO NOT want to hear AI voices singing music. I want the human element of it.
God I still remember when you only had 2k subs remember me before you blow up
2:13 METRO BOOMIN??? bbl drizzy is an ai song that he sampled 😭😭
i really hope this video does well and hopefully can change some peoples minds about AI and AI usage
So glad someone is finally bringing this stuff to the spotlight
As someone who went into the art sphere for a couple of years then into 3d posters.its completely fine to have ai but i beleive the limit for ai should be the human personality and mind. In simple terms sure they can add their voice to any song because its just music but changing their personality and LYING about what they did because the internet distorts thing so much. And finally to close it off ai is just a mimic and has no weight. Remember power is given by the people as we do with words. So don't let it scare you and don't let it take your rights away.
We live in a time in which people do not care about stepping over others
Simply nothing is sacred anymore... there is just no stopping "progress"
RAHH FORTICULUS UPLOADS
as someone who made AI Mickey covers with the voice of the late Wayne Allwine, i'm so sorry. I only made these as jokes, i never intended to profit off them, and i thought that was ok enough
i am so sorry
Tbh, the neco arc ai cover are fire🔥🔥🔥🔥, tbh they are crunchy and silly
I feel that Ai is actually keeping alive the legacy of the artists that have passed on, keeping their memories alive for hopefully generations to come. Ai keeps these names, like Frank Sinatra and others in the public consciousness for just a bit longer than they might have been otherwise, though using their likeness without permission is definitely sketchy and especially profiting off of them is not the greatest thing either but this is happening and it will continue to happen, that is just how new technologies are. Eventually we just have to accept the reality regardless of if we like it or not, we can of course fight against it and delay it but eventually people will just stop caring as more important matters will take precedence and this issue will just be forgotten and in a few generations it will be the new normal alongside "normal" music.
It is said that a person dies twice, once when he is buried and the second time his name is said for the last time.
I love how many words people who support AI have to use to even start justifiying anything, while 3 words is enough to make a counter argument; "AI Kills creativity."
Because small words better than big bad words. Me caveman. Ooga booga.
While I agree with the points about AI stealing creator's works without compensation, and about AI ruining reputation. And I do believe that there needs to be more regulations against AI. I have to disagree about AI ruining Legacy and originality
First off I do not believe that AI has done enough damage to Artist or brand by simply creating a fun cover. If anything I'd argue that it spread more awareness about certant artist. Let's be real here, how many of modern day teenagers/kids listen or even know of Frank Sinatra? Even if out of every 100 teens only 1 will not only listen but fall in love with Frank's music and decides to take music on a more serious level because of these silly covers, that would mean that out of about a million people who watched this cover, there would still be about ten thousand people who decided to seriously pursue music. But even ignoring that, do you seriously think that nirvana's legacy will be destroyed and they will be removed from rock and roll hall of fame, because some kid made a Kurt Cobain cover of gangam style? With the amount of impact some of these artists have made, I don't think AI covers are going harm their legacy in any way. Especially since after a while the novelty of all that will fade away and AI covers will become way more niche.
I also don't belive that AI voices (and AI in generall) is an attack on human creativity. Just because someone is using AI doesn't mean they don't any put effort into anything else. There are a ton of Vocaloid songs that use AI voice synthesizers that, in my opinion, are genuene master pieces like Lagtrain, Disappearance of Hatsune Miku or that nameless Kisaragi station song. This isn't only about songs though, Shadok used AI voices to voice act in their web show "Loveweb" (and it's pretty good, I highly recomend it), way before AI became a hot topic and before Shadok had the funds for real VAs. So who's to say that if, for example, Trent Reznor or Weird Al release their own way more in depth AI voice programm without any moraly questionable problems, nobody's going to use it to create genuenly good and original stuff.
So if there are going to be more regulations about AI that will make it perfectly moral (like not allowing companies to use AI to fully replace humans, not allowing companies to train AIs on work of artists that didn't give consent), I believe it could be used as an amazing tool that will help people create genuenly good stuff.
Yeah, but we've had youtubers and celebrities signing songs before 'ai' was popular. It was just spliced from clips its not that different.
Me when I'm billionaire Taylor Swift listen to an AI cover of my song by Kanye 💵💸🤑💵🤑💸💵🤑💵💸💵💸💵🤑💵💸💵🤑😢😢😢😭😂💵🤑💵🤑💵💸💵🤑💵🤑💵🤑🤑🤑
Me when I'm Frank Sinatra and there's a Frank Sinatra AI cover in 2023.
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀(still dead)
Me when I think of the estate 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
me when I think of the damage, oh god not the damage 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
Me after listening to 17 minutes of a video about anti-AI music that ends with "I don't know" : K, thanks for trying
It’s a shame that you made a video about Hawaii part II and then nobody else kept watching you
The utilitarianist in me says, if it sounds good it's good.
The realist says, it doesn't sound good.
And the creature that enjoys the stories we tell ourselves, is dissapointed, that the story to be told, was a button press by the gray masses.
Eventually we will create a creature, that lives, and tells a story, perhaps the creaturelets we have, already mix the stories we've told them into semi unique concoctions, but i cannot sympathise with that which i do not perceive.
This def gonna get lost but You are literally my favorite TH-camr ever. Hands down. Thank you for creating inspiring content that’s also VERY entertaining. I wish I was able to express thoughts and ideas in such a beautiful way.
Thank you for your kind words!
Using Schlatt a lot, I thought you were gonna bring up how he was also fed up with ai versions of himself, so he made a legitimate cover.
I find the concept of posthumous AI voice models being made creepy asf
okay, but what about mashups? i feel like i heard people saying similar things, that they are unoriginal or are slandering an artist's reputation or original intent; however, and i may be a biased in this, i very much enjoy a good mashup, and i think it is a beautiful method of both preservation and re-contextualization of the past
9:40 dude I thought it said 85m views and was so scared thank god it's only 826k vie- 826K VIEWS?
engelbert humperwhat?
i humper my dink til i engelbert
tbh i agree with mike tyson's take on legacy. what does it matter if these old singers and musicians are being used to make ai covers of meme songs and such?
Didn't Schlatt actually learn to sing for his cover?
He actually did! He did in retaliation of the AI covers people were making of him..
I absolutely love it and wish it was on spotify! ^^
He did! It was in response to other AI covers from what I found. Which props to him, that’s a sick thing to do
@@azalea_axolotl Not exactly retaliation but like, "dang you guys want me sing this song so much? aight, i'll give you guys"
I watched a few of these back when they were first popping up. Genuinely funny to hear Sinatra rap or Hitler singing anime or some weird crap like that. I also remember Freddy Mercury singing the Evangelion intro and it sounded legitimately good. But it got old so fast.
6:58 hawaii: part 2 jumpscare
I have actually not heard these AI songs apart from a few.
Your Essays are so good.
Your comments are so good!
I think the reason people are making AI covers is because people don't want to put in the effort to actually make things and don't have dedication to anything.
No? AI Covers are just human-made songs that are painted with another one's voice (e.g Double Life sang by the Minions). It's really the most harmless out of all the AI bunch.
plus, making ai covers is real hard if you want to make some real quality ones. (ever heard of RVC? Volume Envelope? Consonant Protection? Vocal Remover?)
@@thatoneactualdude Well there still less effort than making a song yourself.
So by that logic is all parody content “effortless” in your view?
Are Weird Al Yankovic and Mel Blanc hacks for parodying genres and pre existing songs and movies? Are Vocaloids lazy?
Seems real nice to just swathe everyone under the brush of having unsympathetic traits. If you really think that people only make AI Covers for those reasons than to be logically consistent your answers should be yes to what I have proposed to you
@@boxylemons7961 But the difference between Weird Al and A.I. covers is that Al actually sings the songs. People who use Vocaloid write the lyrics. While people who make A.I. covers just throw audio clips of someone then put a song someone made into that same software and tell the A.I. to make the vocals sound like it was sung by said person. When in reality it was not.
@@boxylemons7961 Using A.I. to make something you had almost no part in and calling it a "parody" is lazy.
Do you think it still poses a problem if its more of a meme cover, like the Warhammer Space Marine singing I'm Still Standing by Elton John?
I can absolutely agree that using the voices of the dead to cover modern songs, or the voices of the living to cover songs completely unrelated to them is a problem.
holy molly.
I mean, I dont have a big opinion on AI but I mainly don’t like the way it removes effort. When anything is made some sort of work is put in to start and finish it and in the case of AI, it just does it for you, which removes effort and makes it (I guess) less enjoyable in general. Idk
A day before a big guy short
I love the sign post.
High quality video, AND I agree with this guy. INSTANT SUB
For that generated song you used as an example of a "wrong" towards the end, i showed this piece to my dad, but without any context. He liked it, saying this is an experimental style
So... I guess the context ruined it for you?
I watched this on the bus and now I feel the urge to write music
Do it!!
I wanna ask something, didn't this problem exist ever since the inception of humorous mashups like those of Neil Cicierega and such?
These are the only good points against ai I've heard
Ai ruins legacy for sure but the Frank Sinatra example is too funny and also good for me to be mad at. But it is a slippery slope for sure and is probably disrespectful.
I agree with most points in the video, other than the "estate" points, but disagree with the usage of the words "us" and "we". It is important to be pedantic with such topics, especially when it involves ongoing legislation for a "new" industry and techbros who are still mad about crypto flopping.
What damage? the AI is imitating the voice of dead people, sure. But a human could do that to if they tried. AI isn't getting the artists to say these things or sing those songs, just imitating them
6:59 DREAM SWEET IN SEA MAJOR WOOOOOOOO
I've had the same opinion on AI covers. I heard one In a random video out the blue and immediately skipped to the end of that part. One time I was looking for a TTS and came across a AI cover maker... thing instead and was slightly insulted because If I really wanted to make a TTS sing I would open up Audacity and edit It around, and then open GarageBand and use the vocal transformer to smoothen It out (I've used It before to humanize TTS a little.) It's a long process, but It's better then making a robot do the whole thing and be lazy while It shits It out. Is this comment necessary? Not really, but I thought I'd have to say something.
What about transformative content? You know, taking something and transforming it into something original.
I’m not defending AI, I just know for a fact that some artists take samples of other songs for their instrumentals. Like Nakey Jakey using one of the songs from Berserk 1997 for one of his tracks.
its all fair enough
but i really love Neco-arc AI music
Cmon man, "original content" you mean original art, sir
Culture and values are constantly changing, but it is known that "there is nothing new under the sun". My thought is that it is pointless to hold on to ideas like "copyright" and "legacy" because, especially in recent times, they have not been able to hold their own against the will of the people. I do think that it is interesting with AI to imagine that it will outperform us in so many aspects that we would consider it a "higher power" or something of the like. Robotics obviously will play a large part in the advancement of that though the original meaning of the word "robot" is quite inevitable. Perchance. Oh you like to work? You have survival instincts that can be tapped into that force your work to be more productive? It really is too bad we had that Industrial Revolution to cement our culture and values in producing to no end. It is unlikely the human race will ever recover.
is it weird that i find it less problematic to use singers that already died (like sinatra)?
(btw i think AI voice covers aren't something that should be profited off in any way shape or form, but don't have all that much problem with them just existing as long as they don't have influence over/on the original artists)
I don't think a dead person can have their reputation destroyed in such a way. because they aren't here anymore, they also can't have a fall from grace. At most their voice does, but never the person themselves.
I do also think that Sinatra hasen't been this popular in decades and is a singer that younger generations wouldn't be exposed to as much if it wasn't for the recent outbreak of covers of his music or using his sweet and silky voice.
Ontop of that AI covers like these are very much a temporary thing like all other memes on the internet (99.99% of the time) and they drown themselves out in the shear number of them that are out there.
Its really funny tho
hhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo that was definitely a thumbnail to get me to click on this video
what they said
Leaving a comment to try and help with the algorithm 👍
Yeah…AI is here to stay lmao. Push back all you want, the cat has since left the bag-look at the singularity subreddit or any AI news coverage on YT and you’ll see how AI is not only improving the world as we know it, but isn’t leaving just because an oldhead said so or calls to action to stop it. Times are changing, and being a Luddite about it is, for lack of a better word, useless. I myself don’t think AI art is good, most of it is pretty bad and even slop-like, but even as an artist, I recognize that it’s here to stay regardless of what I think, which is generally what you *should* do.
AI won’t trump or replace “real” art (whatever real and AI art/music is, the line is slowly being blurred), hell you didn’t even talk about Udio or Suno AI, which are more important to your argument than AI covers that will eventually become more advanced sure, but think about it like this-vocal AI moves at a snail’s pace. It’s been nearly 3 years and RVC is still the only good way to make these covers. Elevenlabs is still, after almost 3 years, the only voice cloning tts AI that you can potentially use for VA. OpenAI’s 4o Voice model is still closed off to the rest of us and are not open source. Udio AI and Suno are the actual heavy hitters, as they can create competent, good music with good enough prompt engineering or even simple prompting. Those AI are actually “dangerous”, but aren’t treated as such because you and I can make decent music with a couple words and a specific feeling. Which is how it’s gonna stay, and how you view that is depending on your side of history you want to be on, so to speak.
What a powerful video! I definitely have my own share of anxiety caused by AI entering our lives and seeing so much pushback against those predatory uses of AI makes me think maybe the good people on this Earth will pevent society from collapsing within the next century.
straight facts
The frank Sinatra was actually not ai and was a fan effort
Nevermind you already covered that