This Vintage 1940's Train Caboose Has Sat ABANDONED in the Forest for Over 30 Years!
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- Sitting in the woods lies this vintage 1940s CP Rail Train caboose. The man that owned it was a famous Canadian author and television personality. The Caboose was a gift from his family and was placed on the property in the 80's. The man passed in 2004 and his home and Caboose were abandoned shortly after.
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When I was about 11 years old we found one like this at the back of a farm. The land owner allowed us to clean it up and make a clubhouse. We "camped out in it" every weekend until we out grew having a clubhouse. A great childhood memory!
The boxcar children, book read as a kid
That's so awesome
AMAZING OHMYGOSH!
What an amazing experience to have had! I wonder how he happened to have this at the back of his farm.
Where's your place please and is the train still exists until now?
What you're calling the observation area is called a cupola, the hooks that connect the cars together are called couplers and the hose is an air hose, used to apply the brakes. The wheel that you were turning is used to apply the brakes when it is parked. You put the brakes on when the car is stopped so that it won't move by accident. During the period that this car was used they did not have refrigeration so the heavy door you were opening was insulated so that they could put a huge block of ice in there to keep food cold.
Those were manual brakes that could also be used in the case of a "runaway train" incident-- they were called "emergency brakes".
@@crustycurmudgeon2182 Those manual brakes would never have stopped a runaway train.
Westinghouse air brakes apply in case of air loss or train separation, and of course when applied by the train engineer.
The hand wheel was only used to verify brakes were applied for parking, or to release brakes if the caboose is being moved or shoved. Train cars do not have emergency brakes. They just use the same brakes as any other train car.
The cord he was pulling was attached to the air line. A small release of air would apply a bit of braking which the engineer would feel and hear, and know to stop the train.
You sound like a retired railroader, lol.
The ice blocks went into the top compartment. The screen allowed the cold air to settle down and around the lower compartment where the food would be kept.
In it day of active service the toilet would just dump your dump, paper and all, onto the roadbed, just like the old-time passenger cars.
@@crustycurmudgeon2182 more of a parking brake only.
That heavy door with the cage deal was a ice box, block of ice goes on top and food is stored below, the holder between the seats were most likely for flares, here in the US, they stopped using the caboose in 1986, hope this helps.
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Fascinating! I didn't even realize that they had stopped using cabooses. I wonder why they don't use them anymore.
That weale at the and of that trane is a break to stop it👍
They became a victim of technical advances and the railroad’s wish to cut staff. Basically, they were replaced by an ‘end of train’ device which could monitor coupling slack and air brake pressure and radio the data to the loco.
Plain axle bearings were replaced by roller bearings which reduced the risk of ‘hot boxes’.
The conductor just moved forward to the loco.
@@sc5687 Thanks for the explanation. I guess it was bound to happen. We can't hold on to the past forever.
That would make an awesome tiny house!
I was thinking the same thing. I was imagining it as a cabin for writing and camping out. That would actually be a good sized tiny house.
If this is Pierre Berton's CP Rail caboose, it most certainly has historical worth.
He was, in his day, one of the most famous people in Canada.
Journalist, author, intelectual, TV personality, and household name.
Two books that he wrote, about the railway were "The National Dream", and "The Last Spike". 🍁
Fascinating! I just looked him up. I'll bet he wrote books in that caboose.
It is indeed Pierre Burton's caboose. It was used as a guest cottage on his property. 🙂
@@shnorth888 I've never read Burton. I hope to read his book on the Klondike when I get a chance.
My mom grew up near Pierre Burton and knew him she use to go here as a kid.
Back in the 1940's toilets opened to flush onto the tracks. The writer put that sign up because the caboose was stationary, you don't crap near your quarters. My father was an engineer on the PRR and the P&LE steam locomotives. He had jokes about those toilets and hobo's He died in 1955. He was in a train accident in 1951, he had to retire due to injuries. When I was 5 years old he took me for a trip around Conway Yards in the steam locomotive , I remember being scared, when they shoveled coal. Later he had me pull the cord of the trains whistle which also scared me. I still have photos of that day, with soot and coal dust on my dress cloths. I went on in 1965 to work as a fireman/oiler on merchant ships in the engine room. All the ships I sailed on were steam except a Research Vessel in 1967
my father broke his back falling backward on a rail a freak accident that in the long run took his life at 55.
Congrats to the new owner, a caboose can be converted in to an awesome mini home.
Wonderful video!
My Dad was a freight railroad engineer for 40+ years. During that time I was lucky enough to go with him to work many times. In the 1980s he had the opportunity to buy a caboose when they were being phased out. His employer made it real tempting because this railroad had hundreds of cabooses that they were getting rid of. The problem was transporting the caboose from the rail yard to our house. In retrospect, I wish he would have gone ahead with it because the distance from the rail yard to our unincorporated property/house was only 7 miles and we had a big one acre backyard. I'm guessing to tramport it, via a low boy trailer and also hire a craine to load and unload the caboose would have cost $5,000 to $$10,000. Oh, for those who were wondering what the caboose would have sold for, we could have taken our pick for $500 each.
I can see why you would want a caboose! I wonder how they would transport it.
Cabooses usually had a pot belly coal stove (later oil) for heat and cooking. They did have a food pantry, a china cabinet, Bathroom, a clothes closet, water storage, an ice box (later a refrigerator) a table of which to write, dine on and go over the waybills for directing each car.. Power was taken from the track with a small generator that ran on the wheels that charged a battery. They always carried flashlights and signal lights.The caboose had a three or four man crew, the Conductor, Switch man, Brake man and Flagman. Trips would typically be a business run and an overnight stop in a yard waiting for the next days departure. I have a neighbor that did many trips in a caboose and in winter it was warm in there when they slept. During the day when the train was in motion open windows kept it cool in summer. My friend enjoyed the work and the Junior man always was given the cooking job.
This was in my opinion the good old days of railroading! the area you call the tower is called the cupola and you described its use perfectly. I’m from the southeast USA and the caboose I rode in was a bay window instead of cupola type (Southern R.R.) before NS, great video!
Fascinating! That's more than I ever knew about cabooses.
@@rogerweston3707 lol plural is Cabeese where I’m from but as long as we understand that’s all that counts, everyone have a safe and happy Railfan new year!
@@thomasmccardle725 You're kidding! That's like geese as a plural. Happy New Years!
@@rogerweston3707 no fooling all the old timers when referring to more than one caboose they said cabeese.
That is a coupler on the top of the caboose. You turn the handbrake for the caboose. Food storage only in the heavy storage in caboose. The toilet dumps on tracks, that is why the note.
Drawbars are on either end with knuckles that hook up to the train, the big hoses on either end are for the air brake system, that wheel you were turning with a chain hooked to it is the emergency hand brake if it's still attached crank it up tight to set the Parking brake if you will. Just thought I would point a couple of things out I was with Burlington Northern Railroad for over 40 years Thanks for showing us the "Way Car". The Hand rails are that way so if you are gettin' on or off you have a rail to hang onto, so ya don't fall. Inside Up above seating for the Brakeman & Conductor That Area was called the cupola, when up there they could look quite a ways up ahead of them. The toilet was a chemical toilet that one you showed is a newer style it has a holding tank when full you would dump it in a container and get rid of it that way, but when this one first was in service you would simply push the foot control on the floor and it would just dump out on the ground and it did not have chemicals added back then. That holder with 4 holes in the cupola was for fuses if they had to stop out on the tracks the Brakeman would go at least a mile behind them ( at Night) and light one up, also they had torpedoes were packets of sand & gun powder the would also put them on the rails back by the fuses When A Wheel on the rail rolled over one it would make A loud bang to warn the crew that there was a stopped train ahead of them. It Had A Fuel Oil Burning heater originally, also at least two single beds & a desk on both ends. That red rope you pulled on was attached to the emergency brake valve that if ya pulled on it the train would go into emergency and stop the train
Impressive! You know these old trains inside and out. I'll bet you've been all over America on trains.
The tower as you called it is called the Cupalo, the wheel you were turning is to apply the brake n the van ( caboose ) the toilet was a fluid toilet. The cord was the emergency cord when pulled would put the brakes on the whole train. I started with CP out of Toronto 1974. I was a brakeman the Conductor then hogger
That is awesome! I always thought it would have been a great experience to work on a train. I'll bet you have a different perspective on America having seen it from the rails.
Terminology... Coupler and Draft Gear, Brake Wheel (That hand wheel thingy that pulls a chain). The "watch tower" on top is the cupola. Toilets were serviced each trip. The caboose was the conductor's office.
Caboose was built in May 1943, cots test ( clean, oil, test, stencil) brake inspection, was done Aug 1978 TorontoYard. The plain bearings for the axles were last repacked on May 1983 at CP Angus shops. The curved hand railings are designed like to enabling boarding while the train is in motion.
There is a motel located near Strasburg, Pennsylvania the motel rooms/cabins are all train cabooses turned into motel rooms they are all sitting on tracks they must have at least 50 cabooses sitting there.
Therailing was used climbing on as the train was moving. The steel is the brake wheel used to set the brakes. The toilet dumped onto the tracks, used when in motion. The section crew cleaned the tracks. Heavy door was an icebox. Steel cabooses arrived in the early 1960's.
Wow! That caboose looks to be in rather good shape for as old as it is. Hope it can be preserved soon and put inside before it get rotted and rusty.
No hydraulics. Those are air lines.
Definition of a train is one or more cars connected to an engine. That is a caboose, cab, van. An engine with only a caboose was called cab hop.
Don’t let Shoestring see this he would love to live in it ❤️👍
Those bricks would be heated on the stove before bed and slid under the mattress frame with a metal bed pan to heat the bed on cold nights.
Wheel at each end are the lock/unlock for the coupler to connect to train car, whatever it might have been at end of train. It had a coal stove, possibly converted to oil burning stove for heat, red cord is emergency pull cord to alert engineer or conductor of issue.
Noah you are right it is AMAZING !!! An it should be in a museum it is so sad to see history rust away like that somebody should restore it before it's to late!!!!!!
Absolutely! I wonder if it would need a new roof.
5:44 That is the brake wheel. Turning it engages or releases the brakes, depending on direction.
5:57 That is called the coupler.
6:20 What you call the "lookout tower" is called the cupola.
7:00 I wonder why there would be emergency bedding.
7:40 Those two cabinets could be the pantry. The grills would have been to keep animals out.
Air brakes
@@gertraba9806 1:56 hoses for hydraulics LOL - facepalms XD
I wonder if they could spot hobos atop other train cars from the cupola.
@@Fuzzyfox12 The hose on the front is for the air brakes! When the knuckle breaks and causes the hose to disconnect, causes the back of the train to go into emergency!
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing with us. Love your channel.
Wow this is great! Such a cool find! Love it! 🥰🥰🥰
Very cool video!! old trains are fascinating!!
Cool explore Noah! Nice work. Very interesting. Stay safe and well.
This is my first time on this channel. It sounds like Noah is taking some risks. Stay safe!
I wish a caboose was setting in my back yard, would be a neat get away from the house, and a great conversation piece.
Thank you for the video.
I was almost sleep and realized I didn’t comment on this explore. That thick walled box is a fridge, some of them used actual blocks of ice. Some caboose did have a fireplace for heat in the winter months. Also enjoy watching the explores!! Keep Orange Crushing It!
Incredible! I can just imagine the old says when they actually used blocks of ice for a cooler like that. I wonder where they got more ice when it melted...?
@@rogerweston3707 Railroads at one time maintained their own Ice Houses to put ice in refrigerated freight cars and for early passenger cars .
At 1:58 the hose is for air pressure coming from the locomotives for the engineer to apply the train's brakes, each car has air hoses. That system was designed by Westinghouse in 1872, It made trains much safer.
Impressive! It sounds like you are familiar with old trains. They must have been fun to ride on.
I'm 71yrs old and I loved this,oh that wheel on the ends are breaks I think. That would be great for a kid or kids to spend time in just use their imagination instead of a phone like they do now.
Could the tubular slots have been places for signal flags? I would imagine those were used from time to time and the cupola would have been a good vantage point for it.
Loved it! Nice different explore!
My boyfriend also has a caboose in the woods by his cottage. Super cool video!
That would've been very cool to have a train car to hang out in, in the backyard. For a few years in the early/mid 70's l had an uncle that had a small airplane in his huge shed. Wings were removed but everything in the cockpit was there. Many childhood hours were spent playing in that plane!
What a great memory that must be!
Norfolk Southern and CSX Transportation still uses caboose's today but it is still very rare to see it. Lol!!!!
Really? I wonder why cabooses are not as common anymore?
Love this video 📹. What a nice little caboose . It would make a great mini house 🏠 😀. Take care 🙂 💕 💜
Absolutely! It would be fun to live in a caboose.
I love it. Remodeling it to live in would be awesome!
I could live there easy.
Thanks Noah! 👍👍👍👍
I saw a Video of this Years ago, Then it was refinish, real nice on the inside, He payed a lot of money to transport it, And cranes were used.
That was very cool !!
Love it Noah. I think it should be in a museum too. Poor old train, left to rot. So neat and comfy beds. Oops, glad you got your drone back. What an adventure.
You are right! So sad that it's just abandoned. I wonder if it's on someone's property...?
@@rogerweston3707 It's on Pierre Burton's property in Kleinburg, Ontario. I thought I heard it had been turned into a writers' retreat after his death, but don't quote me on that. Regardless, it's private property.
@@lo-firobotboy7112 It would make a great writer's retreat, especially if it's in a forest or by a stream.
Great video! That long curved rail allows for swinging onto the caboose while in motion!
That's awesome. Is it true that they don't use cabooses anymore?
Great video love the caboose
That caboose would make a great cabin as some one obviously had done prior
How cool is this find. I totally turn that into a tiny home.
That would be awsome!
Really my dream for a tiny home to be honest. A caboose would be amazing lol. Iron clad, novel, and the right size.
Noah nice to see you great video 😊
Would love to have one andmake it into a tiny home. Lol
It would be amazing!
Awesome video thanks
That caboose could be an awesome hunting cabin. The size is ideal for that.
Maybe the guy wanted it for like a clubhouse for his kids if he had any. Because imagine as a kid how cool it would be to have an actual train caboose as your clubhouse.
I couldn't agree more. I used to explore in the woods and dream of finding something like that. I did find an abandoned train bed (tracks removed). However, never did find anything as cool as this.
My father worked for the Milwaukee Road, got bought out by the Soo Line, which was bought by the Canadian Pacific (CP Railroad). Which he retired from. I have been on several of these same models since I was a kid. What a lovely little Lass she is
I just saw this 5-9=2023 and it still is a great piece o f history.sacramento.calif.
I always thought if I hit it big (financially) I would place a caboose on the property of my new mansion!
The ultimate getaway! 🚂
If you think about it cabooses were the first campers-RVs I had the honor of exploring one once by far the coolest thing to ever find 🚂
Loved it !
the hose is for the bracking system, my dad worked for the union pacific in the 1960s and got the chance to ride in a caboose a few times I loved it. that square box next to the wheel lifted up for it to be oiled I watched my dad do this many times its all different now. that wheel that you where turning was how they appyed the breaks by hand when the engine is hooked up the the break hose that was the breaking system still used today.
Wow, that car is in great shape considering it's mainly made of wood . It would be a very easy restore. For a rail preservation group. Thanks, great Video.👍🤠
I was thinking the same thing. I guess the hard part would be moving it. But maybe a local group could fix it up.
PIERRE BERTON’s caboose located in Kleinburg on his property. He had 8 kids so likely the home and caboose are still BERTON family owned.
Very cool thanks for the video good luck getting the drone out of the tree
Video je fantastican. Impresivan vagon, koji sam vidjao u kompletu mini voz igracke. Sama pomisao da je vlasnik umro, a naslednici ako ih ima nisu zaintresovani, govori kako je ljudski zivot prolazan, ali nasa dela ostaju vecna.
Mr. Noah.
Your this effort is very appreciable for introducing for this old luxury train cabin in along in this forest area. It is a very different of experience with feeling as very enjoyfully. It is must save in any railway museum. I am gone to before 60 to 100 years about of a laxury life in this train cabin in short time by this video.
Good. Carryon your beautifull job
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Absolutely! A great thing about this explore was that the train seemed to have a mood of joy.
Nice video you did a great job
Definitely a great fine , big part of are history... great video
awesome video someone loved the history of railroads so sad to see it neglected the kids of nowadays have no appreciation for history thank you young man for being one of the good kids happy new year from a old french canadian fart
Sad to see it neglected is right! I would love to turn a caboose like that into a writer's cabin.
Yes that railing on the side of the caboose is designed that way so a person could board the caboose while running along side just before jumping on while the train is moving. Great video thanks and that wooden rack with holes was for signal flags
Nice post. I never even thought of that. Sounds like that railing would make a good action scene.
Always thought a old school caboose would be a excellent tiny house.
the first wheel was for the brake, it was manual, the heavy door cabinet was maybe a safe . keep the clips coming
The heavy insulated door with eIn cased wire sides were for putting blocks of ice and top cabinet was for cold food storage
that wheel thing is for detaching the cars from one another
Years ago, '80s, I got a tour of an active Milwaukee Road caboose. Well not that complete, but it was fun to talk to the guys. My daughter was maybe eight or nine at the time. The tracks border our back yard, and the train had stopped for some reason. The guys in the caboose probably said why, but I don't remember. BUT I thing it was steel sided and a lot newer construction of what you found in the woods. The Milwaukee road went out of business, and the tracks were unused for several years, and then one day a train wen by (-: It's now a few (2-4 trains a day) run by the Wisconsin Southern Rail Road.
In Milledgeville, IL. there's a caboose parked in someone's backyard. I want 1 in my backyard but I'll have to settle for cabooses on my model railroad only. I love cabooses!
Very cool
It is just so different to see a train caboose sitting in a backyard.
Them cabooses had wood burning heaters/stoves/oil burning stoves to keep warm or warm up food, also them steel spoked wheels you turned are the hand brake apparatus, their on both ends of the CABOOSE depending which end your riding it's easily accessible to apply when needed. Great video 😉😁👌👍
That's cool. I imagine they cooked eggs and bacon on that old woodstove.
Love trains…this was so cool ❤
I think the storage you thought was for animals was an old fashioned icebox, with blocks of ice going down below and the uptop where items would go.
That’s probably the most preserved and best conditioned caboose
Air hoses perciate the vid kid love the insight very interesting stay healthy Good Luck 👍
The hose next to the coupler isn't hydrolics. It's an air line for the brakes.
Welcome to my Caboose.
Don't you just love it . .
Love it! Want it to live in it, I’m sure it’s very spacious even without seeing the inside yet! Can’t wait! 4:02
The white plate on the sides indicates it was built in May of 1943. This has older style trucks/bogies and axles. The brown fist looking things are couplers, and the hoses below them are for the airline. Cabooses were put at the back of the train to monitor what was going on. The lever that is on top of the hose is called an Anglecock. You use the anglecock to close and open the airline, and the rear end of the train must always have the rear anglecock closed to preserve the air. The little covers you see on the end of the axles were simply used to hold oil to keep the axles lubricated. On each side of the caboose on the porches, the wheel standing up you see is the handbrakes. Pause at 4:49. Looking to the left of the coupler on the end of the caboose near the grab irons, you can see a hook connected to a rod, that is the coupling lever that opens the coupler, and when the knuckle (The part that curves on the very end of the coupler, Forming the C shape i guess) closes again, it will lock into place. In the upstairs are would be simply for better view and or for comfort, and most cabooses would have beds up there. Let me know if you want any more info.
Each small town in this area,( midlands area in SC) has a caboose similar to this. Some are used as town offices of some sort and one I know of in Gilbert sits in the town park. We live in Pelion, SC. (Tammy and Wyatt)
That is fascinating! Makes me want to visit the area some time and see the cabooses.
Lol, it's a pool cue holder. Ya know, for the pool table. Now THAT would be an interesting game.
In a the mountain town of Dunsmuir CA. There is a railroad park, the train cars are motel rooms, one is the dining room, also.a pool and an awesome view of the mountains from the patio, many of the cars are very old and some.are cabooses
Unusual to come across this unit, out in the middle of (seeming!) nowhere...interesting story behind it, however. Thanks for the share.
Terms - the raised area above the caboose is called the cupola. The 'hitch' at each end of the caboose is called the coupler. The toilet is not a compostable toilet, it flowed into a holding tank underneath, and was pumped out back at the yard. The large wheel at the back end was for braking.
Cabooses were the safety component of railroading for years. Cost cutting/profit over everything was the main reason for their discontinuation. Now mile+ long trains have parts (of the train) go on the ground (railspeak for derailing) and no one in the cab (the head end, in railspeak) knows, unless/until an electronic notice goes off. It doesn't always. Trains have dragged derailed cars....
The rack in the cupola you said to hold something tubular, Im guessing held different colored signal flags. Used to notify the engineer of any problems.
excellent, i think V2 of your drone work for this is gonna be better than the day we went
I think so too!
What you're calling a where was the chain on it that set the brakes on the car in the river hoses where the airlines that shut the brakes that they said it when they were parked on a downgrade or something didn't want to roll away
That's a icebox is that big block size underneath the car to keep it cold so they keep their food to eat
@@gregpurcell9493 very cool, thanks for sharing that!
I'd like to have this and turn it into a tiny off grid home.
Noah there is a very similar caboose at my local museum in southwestern ontario. It was probably decommisioned years before the one in your video because it has a woodstove opposed to an oil heater. The ashtray mounted to the wall in the crew seating area males it a good thing those windows open up there. I can imagine millions of cigarettes were smoked in that thing over it's lifetime
there's always someone putting a damper on smokers when the main reason for opening windows was just for general ventilation. Remember, you have a few guys in a tight space, there's a shitter in a closet, food in marginal storage, and a coal fired stove for heat. After a few days it's going to be on the ripe side even if nobody lights up a pipe, cigar, etc.
Yikes! Reminds me of a bus ride I took as a kid. Seemed like everyone was smoking. I can just picture a bunch of railroad guys in a cloud of smoke in the caboose.
Cabooses bring back good o memories. They were replaced by EOTs "End of train" devices, defect detectors, & dragging equipment detectors.
Thank u
CP Rail is Canadian Pacific. The hoses on tge front are air hoses. The brakes on the cars lock up when the air is disconnected and required the air hoses to release them. The wheel on the front is a brake lock to set when the crew disconnects the car to keep it from rolling away.
When we were kids, we lived outside of town. We would hike a half mile or so to the tracks, then hike the tracks for another half mile or so to go fishing in the creek that ran along the tracks at that spot. I can tell you now, we had to watch where we walked when we walked the rails because we could see and smell the evidence of the toilet draining directly to the outside. It was pretty gross.
The same applies today. I took a Canadian passenger train in about 1997, and there was a sign asking passengers to _not_ flush the toilet when the train was in the station. 🤮
Yikes! I never knew that was a concern on the tracks.
Nice video! The caboose might be older than you thought, maybe built in the 1920s. I'm surprised it's not modified at all. There are more at Puddicomb's farm south of Hamilton. Up in the cupola, you used your nose, sniffing for overheated bearings. If the train had a "hotbox", you would stop it and re-pack the bearing otherwise it would get red hot and snap the axle off, causing a derailment.
This is so ccol!
@Noah. Some identification of parts for you. 5:42 The wheel is a brake wheel. It would operate the brakes on the caboose manually in the event the main brakes failed. 5:57 Hook or lock thingy = coupler. 6:18 Lookout tower is called the cupola. 11:07 The cord was used to signal the engineer to make an emergency stop. Passenger trains had these in the cars as well.
That's fascinating. I wonder why a passenger would signal an emergency stop...?
@@rogerweston3707 Most abused it as the pulled the cord if they realized they missed their stop. But it was mainly there if someone saw something wrong with the train to signal the engineer to stop it. If you seen the movie "Polar Express", you will see the emergency brake line in use, by one of the kids, albeit in the former case rather than the latter
@@jukingeo This is great. I'm a fan of history. Is Polar Express a good movie?
That bracket on the wall with the holes in it that's most likely for holding flares