Sadly wind makes a massive difference with EVs. 8m/s is just shy of 30km/h. So if you are doing a steady 110km/h with a straight 8m/s headwind it is the equivalent of driving at 140km/h or if it is a tailwind it is the equivalent of doing 80km/h. The rolling resistance will still be the same regardless of the cars speed. And we all know the massive difference in consumption if doing 80km/h or 140 km/h... Even if it's a full sidewind you'll still have a significant increase in consumption as the steering input to counteract the wind will be a significant force. In an ICE it is all masked massively by the initial inefficiency that you are heating up the engine and blowing heat out the exhaust.
Not freaking out. Just hoping for better efficiency. There's other cars with better efficiency under worse conditions than this. So personally I was hoping and expecting slightly lower consumption. Even if the speed was "high".
What a good channel this was!👍 High consumption compare to Megane e-tech for example. Do you think 18 inch get better range and noice/road comfort? Tack från Malmö😊🇸🇪
6:50 TBH, what they should do is make it possible to permanently turn off this ridiculous driver alert BS, as well as the speed alert, instead of having to do it every single f***ing time you start the car 😳👈 Anyway you are right for calling out, Volvo on their obvious mistakes. Thanks for your videoes. They're much appreciated 👍
Surprising enough no. Minimal difference. So I wouldn't have any doubts myself about going 20" for summer setup. Both cars were running winter tires, and they are generally softer. With that said. If you primarily want comfort then 19" are the best choice.
What happens if you tape over the driver monitors (the little panel behind the steering wheel)? Does it beep even more or would that be a permanent "toggle off" for the driver alert?
Well that is explained by looking at how WLTP tests are conducted. For example, the avg. speed is about 46km/h and the test is conducted in a room with a steady 23 C temperature and AC/heating is turned off for the car. It would be a quite unrealistic to assume that the car would reach the same range or consumption on highway speeds in winter time in the Nordics. However, I've seen people reach very good consumptions and range estimates on the EX30, especially when driving at slightly lower speeds - even in near-zero (celsius) temperatures. Just check the other range test video from Volvo_Kristian with the Single Motor Extended Range where the range and consumption were quite alright. In my country, there are no places where you could even legally drive faster than 120km/h and most bigger roads have a max speed of 100 or 80km/h.
I see someone have replied regards to the WLTP. So won't comment more about that. With that in mind I think/know Volvo will push out updates that will optimise the powertrain.
The efficiency is bad, french youtuber had even higher consumptions near 28kWh average, 32kWh peak, driving on flat and dry highway at legal 130kmh, really poor
do you think that poor people like me who have just bought the ex30 will be able to have the improvements to the steering buttons? As they are they are ridiculous
highway/motorway is not optimal for EV's. It never has and never will be. Wind and temperature is also against it, so considering the relative small battery I would call it "as expected". It will most likely do 500+ km in warm weather city driving and this is where all EV's shine.
Volvo should make a “secret” engineering mode where driver attention alert can be permanently turned off. At least a one press solution per start. I hate it and will always disable. There are many forms of terrorism.
This no buttons or screen right in front will end with new safety regulations to come in to the EU 2025. If you want five star satay the car needs buttons for common functionality out with any screen interaction that they feel is distracting drivers. Common sense prevails. As for the Volvo they will still be calibrating the range estimate. You don’t have to ask about the wind look at the flags at the end when your charging😂 it’s blowing a hoolie as we call it in Scotland. Low temp winter driving, windy hardly surprising to taken a hit in range. I’d be disappointed if it didn’t get near 300 miles long range in summer.
Good range for me considering the outside temperature...
Good video there Kristian
Thanks so much 👍
Sadly wind makes a massive difference with EVs. 8m/s is just shy of 30km/h. So if you are doing a steady 110km/h with a straight 8m/s headwind it is the equivalent of driving at 140km/h or if it is a tailwind it is the equivalent of doing 80km/h. The rolling resistance will still be the same regardless of the cars speed. And we all know the massive difference in consumption if doing 80km/h or 140 km/h... Even if it's a full sidewind you'll still have a significant increase in consumption as the steering input to counteract the wind will be a significant force. In an ICE it is all masked massively by the initial inefficiency that you are heating up the engine and blowing heat out the exhaust.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing 👍
Such a long Winter you have up there guys 😅 I appreciate that you keep making videos with such challenging weather
Well, that’s not very challenging weather here in the Nordic countries😊
Yeah, but now we're at least at the end. This is almost summer compared to how our winter has been 😂
@@volvo_kristian Jep, -37 celcius lowest I have seen in my Tesla’s thermometer here in Finland this winter
@@jussikoskela9850haha 😂 That's insane. I think I've only seen -31 this winter
It’s being tested in the mids of winter. Somewhere like the UK where it hangs around 5-15*C I’m sure it will perform a lot better
Why is everyone freaking out about consumption? It’s WINTER!!
Not freaking out. Just hoping for better efficiency. There's other cars with better efficiency under worse conditions than this. So personally I was hoping and expecting slightly lower consumption. Even if the speed was "high".
What a good channel this was!👍 High consumption compare to Megane e-tech for example. Do you think 18 inch get better range and noice/road comfort?
Tack från Malmö😊🇸🇪
6:50 TBH, what they should do is make it possible to permanently turn off this ridiculous driver alert BS, as well as the speed alert, instead of having to do it every single f***ing time you start the car 😳👈
Anyway you are right for calling out, Volvo on their obvious mistakes. Thanks for your videoes. They're much appreciated 👍
Hello Kristian, did you notice a massive difference in comfort between the 20 inch and 19 inch tires on the EX30?
Surprising enough no. Minimal difference. So I wouldn't have any doubts myself about going 20" for summer setup. Both cars were running winter tires, and they are generally softer. With that said. If you primarily want comfort then 19" are the best choice.
19" and 20" have the same with, that's why... maybe there's a more noticeable difference on 18"
What happens if you tape over the driver monitors (the little panel behind the steering wheel)? Does it beep even more or would that be a permanent "toggle off" for the driver alert?
It will beep if you block I've Tried it, and was beeping several times with a certain time frame apart. So easier to just turn it off.
Hi Kristian. Does any of two models that you have already tasted had “heat pump”?
Interested how it may improve a range.
Both the Single Motor Extended Range and Twin Motor models have the heat pump as standard equipment.
Both have the heat pump 👍 Improves range/efficiency in colder environments
In our country Core, Plus packs miss it. Interesting how much extra range the heat pump adds.
"There's a Passion Red XC60 passing by..."
Beep Beep!!
"Focus on driving?! Damn I hate this driver alert system!"
😆😆😆
Should at least avoid beeping if I'm looking at other Volvo's 😂😂
I want a test in hot country.... it will be awhile to have one.
Yeah. I will take it for a new test in like May/June
Do you think that Volvo will come with an update to get a better range? I don't understand how Volvo can say the WLPT is much higher.
Well that is explained by looking at how WLTP tests are conducted. For example, the avg. speed is about 46km/h and the test is conducted in a room with a steady 23 C temperature and AC/heating is turned off for the car. It would be a quite unrealistic to assume that the car would reach the same range or consumption on highway speeds in winter time in the Nordics.
However, I've seen people reach very good consumptions and range estimates on the EX30, especially when driving at slightly lower speeds - even in near-zero (celsius) temperatures. Just check the other range test video from Volvo_Kristian with the Single Motor Extended Range where the range and consumption were quite alright. In my country, there are no places where you could even legally drive faster than 120km/h and most bigger roads have a max speed of 100 or 80km/h.
I see someone have replied regards to the WLTP. So won't comment more about that. With that in mind I think/know Volvo will push out updates that will optimise the powertrain.
Kristian, I get the impression that Volvo (Geely) rushes the EX30 to production. Your opinion?
Would you rather go for smart #3 or ex30? What would be the better choice?
The efficiency is bad, french youtuber had even higher consumptions near 28kWh average, 32kWh peak, driving on flat and dry highway at legal 130kmh, really poor
Yeah, the efficiency aren't a strong side with the EX30. .
Might make me go Tesla Model 3. I like efficiency.
@@Milhouse77BS and me keeping my Hyundai ioniq 😅
260km on a highway in such conditions isn't that bad. For my use case it'll be enough, since I am a city driver.
Yeah. It's not too bad, but was hoping to see the 300 marker. Well well. Maybe later in spring
do you think that poor people like me who have just bought the ex30 will be able to have the improvements to the steering buttons? As they are they are ridiculous
highway/motorway is not optimal for EV's. It never has and never will be. Wind and temperature is also against it, so considering the relative small battery I would call it "as expected". It will most likely do 500+ km in warm weather city driving and this is where all EV's shine.
Volvo should make a “secret” engineering mode where driver attention alert can be permanently turned off. At least a one press solution per start. I hate it and will always disable. There are many forms of terrorism.
This no buttons or screen right in front will end with new safety regulations to come in to the EU 2025. If you want five star satay the car needs buttons for common functionality out with any screen interaction that they feel is distracting drivers. Common sense prevails. As for the Volvo they will still be calibrating the range estimate. You don’t have to ask about the wind look at the flags at the end when your charging😂 it’s blowing a hoolie as we call it in Scotland.
Low temp winter driving, windy hardly surprising to taken a hit in range. I’d be disappointed if it didn’t get near 300 miles long range in summer.