How to Repair Melted Vinyl Siding | Ask This Old House
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- Tom Silva helps a homeowner solve the mystery of her melted vinyl siding. (See below for a shopping list, tools, and steps.)
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Shopping List for How to Repair Melted Vinyl Siding:
Window screen, used to eliminate reflective solar heat
Adhesive-backed Velcro tape, for securing screen to window
Vinyl siding, used to replace the damaged siding
Aluminum roofing nails, for attaching the vinyl siding
Tools List for How to Repair Melted Vinyl Siding:
Hammer
Utility knife and combination square, for scribing a cut line onto the vinyl siding
Aviation snips, used to cut vinyl siding
Zip tool, used to lock siding panels together
Steps for How to Repair Melted Vinyl Siding:
1. Apply 4-inch-long strips of adhesive-backed Velcro tape to a window screen.
2. Peel off the backing from the tape and stick the screen to the outside of the window sash.
3. Slip your hand behind the siding course immediately above the damaged siding. Slide your hand along the wall to disengage the butt (bottom) edge of the siding.
4. Use a hammer to pull the nails holding the first course of damaged siding to the wall.
5. Pull down on the siding to disengage it from the course below, then remove the damaged piece of siding.
6. Repeat Steps 4 and 5 to remove the remaining damaged siding panels.
7. Measure a new vinyl siding panel to fit along the very bottom of the wall. Scribe the cut line with a combination square and utility knife.
8. Cut the siding along the scribed line with aviation snips.
9. Snap the lowest course of siding into the starter strip fastened along the bottom of the wall.
10. Secure the siding with aluminum nails. Space the nails 12 to 16 inches apart, and tap them through the center of the nailing slots.
11. Be sure to leave the nail heads protruding 1/16 of an inch or so. Don't nail the siding tight to the wall.
12. Where two pieces of siding overlap, use the utility knife to trim the end of the nailing hem and the back edge of the butt edge.
13. Continue to install siding up the wall, one panel at a time.
14. To snap the last-installed siding panel onto the panel above, use a zip tool.
15. Hook the zip tool onto the butt edge of the upper siding panel, then pull down and push in at the same time.
16. Slide your hand and the zip tool along the wall to lock the siding panels together.
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Tommy : okay I think I have a third solution for you instead of the tree or awning.
Lady: okay great
Tommy: gets in truck and drives away.
Haha
I've been a builder for many years and have seen quite a fair bit of sheds. The plans in ryan's package th-cam.com/users/postUgkxB7IXYxLzb_Ichhe45zM3Im5xfEiSp9vB have some of the nicest looking sheds i've seen in a while.
Her face when Tom tells her it is the window.....she says "ohhhhhh" lol
“All right Lidiyer that looks much better”
"An awning wouldn't work with the style of the house"
As she stands before an endless flat expanse of vinyl siding. Very stylish indeed. Perhaps a shower curtain nailed to the wall would suit her elegant tastes
To be fair an awning wouldn’t look good in that corner. You made her point it would ruin the clean simple aspect of the house
Doesn’t feel very safe if the sun can do that! What in the event of a real fire?😱
@@Borgenscalle if there's a real fire a block away you'll need new siding.
I can't stand the acting from the homeowners.
I cannot stand people like you
I love the acting job it funny as shut
_-Delaware Scrap-_ they don’t know what to do , Tommy’s used to the cam
I hate they make them act. This homeowner was one of the more convincing ones though
I thought the homeowner did great. Acting is incredibly hard for most of us.
I don't think Toms cuts were all that great especially the exposed one they showed. For cutting siding the best snips to use are long jawed.
Did she give Tommy the evil eye at 5:46
LOL... Or she just like ... WTF are you doing? LOL
she was bored and started looking at his salt and pepper hair
Nope, that was the I want to make some carpenter babies look.
Your house is melting!! Forget about the garden! Just put the tree in the flowerbed lady!!! You can still plant flowers and vegetables around it. That's a solution that requires minimal effort!
I've seen it happen on a neighbors house from heat reflection from the neighboring houses window. Imagine that conversation when one person is saying you caused it. Who's responsibility is it? 😄
These men have so much patience to work with annoying shadows. God they're worse than 3 year olds
Another contributing factor is the concavity in the glass that occurs in IG units. This acts like a magnifying glass, as the reflection is concentrated. Most of the N-S facing houses in our old subdivision have large swaths of melted siding from the neighbors’ west facing windows.
I don't understand why they aren't working together. She could be lifting the siding away from the house as he pull nails, and she could grab the nails from him as well. Those yellow windows or screens behind the guys in the shop are very cool.
Knotching back joint....how about using factory edge of panel, and make cuts on the "j" side.
“A microwave????”
that would be one of those microwaves that goes over the oven and has the range fan built in.
Good videos, be nice to have one that show the difference between sidings, specially aluminum, stucco, vinyl.
this is why i still love this show there always something new to learn.
I don't know if that woman knows what he is saying lol it's like a reverse of when a woman is talking a man is like "oh, oh, you don't say, hmm, she didn't, your better then her, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love you" the whole time guys only hear "blah blah blah blah blah, woman was mean to me, blah blah blah blah"
This being one of the very few cases where e-glass reflection is ADDING to vinyl melt . The sun has direct rays on the siding , is adding heat to the spot by reflection off of the window AND the adjacent siding .
Reflection off e-glass across to an adjacent house , shining onto a SHADED side is not going to melt siding unless the ambient outdoor temp is 120 + degrees .
My friend set a fryer on the sidewalk next to his house and it caught on fire and melted his siding, I will be sure to share this with him.
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Tell him to velcro a screen to his siding behind the fryer.
I would have just piled the pieces in order so I could simply grab them and use them to mark the length of the new piece rather than measuring with a tape measure.
His cuts would have been straighter as well.
Or bend a fork utensil you don't need and it works like a bending tool but costs cheaper.
The was great. I think my house siding is melting and bulging due the neighbor's low-E windows. I will have talk them about their windows. My fight is with the builder and siding company not wanting to repair this and house is less than 7 years new construction.
her reaction has me dead
LOL... She was like WTF ?????????????????????
The new siding will almost never match the old .....I found a place behind a large bush and replaced siding from there and used that in the place where it is obvious.
yeah but on this old house is matches every time. If it dont your not a professional lmao
The best cure for melted vinyl is replacing it with something nice... Fiber cement, wood, stucco, metal... anything but vinyl.
+moaski Yes, something that has to be (re)painted, or rots, or cracks, or rusts. Good suggestion!
mike spence fiber cement or hardie backer doesn't rust or rot. Once its installed its hard to crack
It's very hard to crack fiber cement. Nothing is better than some cheap, low-quality, and overall pain-in-the-neck vinyl! Sure is the best, isn't it?
If she lives in the northern half of the US then stucco or fiber cement are both horrible suggestions.
The freeze thaw cycle here is brutal and it'll rip anything cement based to shreds.
For some people hardie is out of their budget
lmaoo. he put his pouch on for velcro tape. lmaoooooo
Chris Nieves I’m pretty sure he took off the siding after he put the screen on , hence the tool belt . Speaking of tools ...lol I’m just messing around man I love tommy
I didn't know Cliff Claven was so handy
I knew he looked familiar!
I have a building with one of those rounded fabric/canvas roofs. Snow and ice slides off it into a pile that if left unchecked will turn to ice in the spring. That ice on the ground reflected the sunlight on the building and caused the exact thing we see here in this vid.
He's right about the Low-E glass. Our windows burned the lawn each summer. We planted trees to block the rays. It worked.
I like you're video sr. Thank's to saving us money.
Why remeasure when he had perfect pieces to line up with? LOL.
James R remember this saying measure twice cut once
+James R - That would be too smart!!! LMFAO !!!
Ironic that the person insulting the intelligence of others is incapable of stringing two properly structured sentences together.
Because you still have to know its size
Oy Vey. Plant a vine flower on a trellis.
Only 1" overlap??? Shouldn't it be more like 2-4"?
Each time i tune in to TOH i learn something new THANK YOU, helpful video
This lady pissed me off
Isn't the home owner supposed to help? She was about as helpful as a screen door on a submarine.
Those large, single-pane modern windows tend to bow slightly, and in this case appear to have formed a convex reflector. Special screens do exist that offer "directional" micro-louvers, but they also obscure one's view of outside.
Ohh
The seams went the wrong way.
Yes. All visible from the viewing side. Originally installed wrong. He probably didn’t want to point it out.
Tommy says "it's called a zip tool" and @8:05 says Sideswiper right on it, which is what i called it for 30 years, I have three of them in various tool bins in my truck. And watched in horror as Tommy put a knife/snip cut on TOP of a seam overlap.
Tom Silva is the man
If you are junking the siding dont bother pulling nails on the first row you take off. You can flex the nailer around the head or just yank the panels really hard and break the nailing tabs. If the siding is an exact match there is a good change the nailing tabs will line up and you can hook the last row back in/ That's way easier than trying to holding the siding up out of the way while you nail.
No mention of how new siding almost never matches old because of fading by sun. And the premise was this area received a lot of sunlight.
This is going on more than you realize. The advantages of Hardy siding and brick.
I grilled to.close to my garage. And Melted.the vinyl. I'm so happy it's this easy to fix.
Tom you a legend
A liitle off topic for this video, but what are my options to secure the j channel to the house around the window if all you have is "Celotex" black board to nail to? We have 1x4 trim framing the windows that are wrapped with aluminum, so there aren't any studs where the j channel needs to go. Hope someone can help.
I like brick wall.
Instead of measuring the gaps, why not just use the pieces that were pulled off as templates? Assuming there was no indications that the original pieces were originally cut the wrong size, wouldn't you want the new pieces to be exactly the same size as the old ones?
+Jonathan Gwynne - Hahahahahahahahahaha, that would be too easy and time saving! Plus they want to make a Video and add the drama to it, LMFAO !!!!
Reuse the NON damaged parts....
First thing I noticed! Very wasteful. You probably only need new material for the longest piece, then reuse the good parts of the damaged pieces!
Shrinking, due to to heat. always remeasure.
See that's exactly why I plan to build my House and a spindle anything like that I can just spin it around problem solve
Why wouldn’t you just use the old vinyl siding as a template to cut the new siding?
The last one I just watched before this one he fixed the door jamb with Bondo. Now we're velcroing screens on. Not knocking Tommy so don't get all upset just noting...
Won't the adhesive in the Velcro just melt/soften on a hot day
I would have tried using a heat gun and an iron first to try to smooth it out.
1st... Kinda stupid owner.... Put a " Tree " there and call it the day. It's in the back of the house, no one will see it... Move the Poo Poo Paradise out a bit, problems solved! LOL. 2nd... As you are removing the " Vinyl ", use it to " Cut " each piece so that way there is no measurements and " time " saving.
I love when homeowners have to watch me from over my shoulder the entire time, too. And there's no way that new siding magically matched the existing siding perfectly. That just don't happen unless it's almost new
first time I saw Tom make a small mistake... He gets a pass on that
I have a friend who has his entire side of his house melted because of the neighbor's windows. Naturally the neighbor doesn't care and won't do anything. I told him he should build a wall similar to a border wall in Texas and see how the neighbor likes that.
Happens alot in high rises as well. When they first started with the all glass buildings all sorts of heat issues started to show up. if you pay attention when you are walking by all glass buildoings and you in the reflection zone you can feel the heat
I tried doing a fix like that but it was noticeable from two blocks away I never could get the Green siding to blend with grey they clashed
glen wells Just put a fresh coat of white, so when it flakes it'll look like a Dalmatian.
Yeah.. Greta Thunberg aproves american building code.
Built a fire a little to close to the garage, melted siding . Not good!
Score the siding with a knife first? Lmao 🤣! Just use the snips! Wow!
My wife melted ours cooking on the grill,.
Yep, she cleared out all the food at Sizzlers.
8:07 oddly satisfying
Aaaaa ohhhh really wowww
Idk why anybody would want vinyl siding. It’s hella ugly.
Wait....Americans cover their houses in vinyl? Isn't that like..... a MASSIVE fire hazard?
No, it is easy to put on. If done according to the building code, the material under it will prevent a fire.
Before you judge American housing, consider that we don't normally pass paying off the house to the kids.
Also, we have not fought two world wars where everything got blown to hell.
The houses I lived in Germany would have served well for a bunker.
@Chris Tsorotes We just got hit with Hurricane Michael. By all standards, it was a Cat. 5 storm. The coast where it came in on received winds around 150 mph. Whole areas of pine trees were blown down. Our houses that were taken out were pretty much from the huge storm surge and falling trees.
The house I grew up in was in Panama City and built in the 1950s. It survived with very little damage while the house next door, built during the same time, was pretty much wiped out from falling trees.
My current house which is two years old did not suffer any damage. We are 90 miles from the coast and the eye of the storm passed 65 miles east of us.
We could go back and forth all day on who has the better houses. Suffice it to say that our houses are pretty good for our area
Like you, I would very much like to have a basement. But our water table will not allow it.
If I could afford it, I would build a house like we stayed in Germany. They had 3 foot thick walls, metal storm window shudders, huge basements and would survive a near miss by a nuclear bomb.
It's not just about who builds better houses, it's about the building style as well. If you were to build a house just like they did in the 40s, with the same materials, then your house would be just as good as a 40s house.
I want to know, wind and cold, damp problem this PVC material can resist?
For any dampness that gets behind the siding. You see the white paper looking material behind the siding. Well that is a vapor barrier. The best is made by DuPont. It actually is supposed to let moisture out of the wall, but not let any sweat and or outside moisture into the wall or on the studs. The cold and heat will make it brittle in a few years. If you live in a milder climate, you will get good years of service out of it.
5:48 😂
The homeowner looked troubled...jk
Perfect timing!
But luckily I have a very small section that's melted (it was there prior to my ownership) -- certainly not as bad as that lady's house.
Yeah your microwave is melting your house
I just don’t understanding why people still get vinyl siding ? It is totally garbage! It melt, it chip, it broken so easy …it is not material for house , period!
Cost.
never seen anyone score the vinyl with a knife like that before crosscutting. Just snip it off.
I think he scores it so he has a guide on where to cut it with the tin snips.
Izzy Ramos-Gunn why not just use a pencil?
Just build a normal house. Not made of plastic.
Vinyl siding really is an inferior material. Yeah you don't have to paint it, but it fades, melts, buckles and generally looks like crap after 10-15 years, so you're going to be ripping it off and replacing it anyways. Hardi-plank type siding is the way to go. Granted you have to paint it, but at least you aren't ever going to be ripping it off and replacing it every 10-15 years or so. Or IMO best solution is to go brick around the whole house(don't do like the tract houses around here, vinyl siding the back/sides but brick on the front to make it look fancy)
As a glazier do NOT do this with a Low E pane on the outside unless you want to pay 100-300 dollars every summer or 2. Your outside pane of glass will get a heat crack and will have to be replaced to lmao..... Same with films, signs, decals, etc. This doesn't solve the problem but redirect it.
Another good note is to face the seam into the corner, so it isn't as visible.
So what do I do if I can’t get the original siding?
Nice work Tombo.
I used a ion 😂❤ with a damp towel hasn't blistered still going strong 😂❤ 5 years later ❤
When i remove vinyl or aluminum siding, ALWAYS mark the top of the nailing flange on the “tyvek” type material, so when I reinstall the pieces they go back where they were.
That velcro should be fun when a storm or strong wind happens. Good bye screen, hello return business!
Meh if you know one is coming you can take it down.
I thought it warped because she sat on it.
The microwave is overused from the bagel bites and extra butter popcorn.
What an unusual circumstance to cause this problem. I find that a gas grill does a much better job without the mystery! Thanks for the video!
Why didn't you use the removed pieces of vinal as a template to cut a new piece. No measuring required and gives the home owner something to do when you're removing the pieces from the wall.
Whelly ? oooh? Wheeelly?
Vinyl siding is lame. Might as well get some fake plastic shrubs and flowers for the front of your house too.
It's because it's cheap, durable, and virtually maintenance free
@@83AirGuy so are plastic shrubs
@@johnp82 Touche
Amazing, very smart, thank for sharing your skills
anyone know how to replace the starter strip if you only need to replace the bottom piece of siding...without tearing it all off
I live near Phoenix, AZ. The unshaded portions of my home are all warping with the extreme summer heat. Tommy's lesson on how to replac the vinyl siding is very helpful. Shading the worst areas will be my next chore.
Made in China
Why don't you use the same nail holes? Doesn't that leave the old holes open to moisture?
Where did you get that?
Where did I get what?!?
That dirty look on your face! .. 5:46
We are doing some house hunting and found similar issue, Thank you for the detailed explanation this is a perfect solution to our scenario.
U are genius 😁😍😎❤🙈😳
Thanks! I melted mine with a blowtorch
That is such a shitty house
7:50 is it possible to just use the back of a hammer or something instead of this tool to do this part?