Joe Rogan & Marques Brownlee on Virtual Reality

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  • Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1186:
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  • @donovan7890
    @donovan7890 6 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Joe "I Play Quake" Rogan

  • @cesarsaucedo5110
    @cesarsaucedo5110 6 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Joe “I can climb Mount Everest any day without a problem but when I play boxing VR I get exhausted” Rogan

    • @1Philmingo
      @1Philmingo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cesar un-original Saucedo

  • @APeXDiablo
    @APeXDiablo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Here's hoping for a Quake reference.

    • @jacobmortimore
      @jacobmortimore 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

    • @DaygoG
      @DaygoG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fabi_87 finally, thank god lol freakin quake.

    • @willmartin6052
      @willmartin6052 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fatal1ty podcast is listed on the jre guest list

  • @ParadiseDecay
    @ParadiseDecay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Thanks for showing off my VR Boxing Skills ;) (2:10)

    • @ParadiseDecay
      @ParadiseDecay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The boxing game 'Creed Rise To Glory', yeah. :)

    • @ParadiseDecay
      @ParadiseDecay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its well established, don't listen to all the fake news, we are all having a blast and the tech is only getting better. Creed is a really great VR boxing game and it makes you feel like you are in Rocky's world. You can't beat being inside the game. :) Good luck getting VR and we look forward to seeing your excitement. :)

  • @thetruth6585
    @thetruth6585 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ive got a occulus go and i love it. Watching movies on it and listening to music with groovr is a life changing experience.

  • @user-rj1tp8yi2q
    @user-rj1tp8yi2q 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Joe “ 2:59” Rogan

  • @unnamed715
    @unnamed715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Joe Rogan: Black guest? Gotta wear my Wu-Tang shirt!

    • @itsjaynguyen
      @itsjaynguyen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      unnamed715 most wu tang fans are rich white kids

    • @unnamed715
      @unnamed715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jay Nguyen
      Yeah, as well as many other rappers. What's your point?

    • @hernanhironymus
      @hernanhironymus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Beta male looking to race bait because he is insecure

    • @unnamed715
      @unnamed715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hernan
      It's a joke dude, lighten up.

    • @b1bbscraz3y
      @b1bbscraz3y 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      you think Marques has any kids? I bet he got a little chick with iJustine

  • @morganchangaming
    @morganchangaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Joe “whoa this is weird man” Rogan

  • @BOLL7708
    @BOLL7708 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Regarding VR harder to make than AR. The thing with AR is that the content has to adapt to your physical space. I'd say _that_ is the harder problem. In VR you have all the data because the universe is virtual, in AR you have to detect and interpret the real world instead.
    Right now VR is quite useful already, with drawing applications, 3D modelling, data visualization, architectural visualization, pain relief by distraction, eye therapy, military and hazardous training, tele-presence conferencing and in person screen sharing... it's just... quite versatile, if you look around a bit.
    So far AR is still an app on your phone, a small flat window with objects plastered on top of a video feed. I've placed some virtual IKEA furniture in my apartment, and put a living hamburger on a table, used a virtual measurement tool... It will be quite awesome when we can have the glasses that will gives us on-the-ground directions to places, but that would also mean we need absolute global tracking and seamless mapping... it's a big problem to solve, but I bet it's being worked on feverently.
    Here VR is again easier, more straight forward, and already in a viable headset form.

    • @MrTheSmokinman
      @MrTheSmokinman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      After putting this information out. On a scale of 1-10 how does that make you feel? And does it make you feel better now that someone has replied?

    • @BOLL7708
      @BOLL7708 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrTheSmokinman I usually fire and forget, it's nice to get a reply, but in this case it was kind of a downer as it didn't question anything I wrote or posed new considerations. It did get me to reply though, which might have been your goal.

    • @brettcameratraveler
      @brettcameratraveler 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BOLL7708 Thanks for your expertise and contribution. I agree. Its relevant to many of the people clicking on the title of this video. @Smokin Man. ---

    • @etikalovesminecraft7844
      @etikalovesminecraft7844 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BOLL7708 isn't 3ds AR and 3d the same thing?

    • @BOLL7708
      @BOLL7708 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@etikalovesminecraft7844 3DS AR is real time graphics overlayed on top of a live video feed, basically real time spatial mapping and video compositing. What kind of 3D are you comparing it to? Real time graphics, stereoscopic media, 3D models? It's a fairly generic term at this point.

  • @mcfly531
    @mcfly531 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Joe "there's a boxing game" Rogan

  • @daxterkiddo
    @daxterkiddo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beat Saber even has mod support so people can add new mods and songs. Every VR owner should buy Beat Saber

    • @moderation7337
      @moderation7337 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      check out Hyperdash. Don't be discouraged when you get owned at first. Takes about 2 weeks to get the hang of it. Best FPS in the world. Currently in open Alpha on side quest

  • @NikoKun
    @NikoKun 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I can't stop playing Skyrim in VR! I'm quickly nearing 100 hours in it already! lol

    • @عبدالرحمنالجهني-ل8ي
      @عبدالرحمنالجهني-ل8ي 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can't stop playing skyrim, even without vr

    • @MrTheSmokinman
      @MrTheSmokinman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea but you're a kid or someone who doesnt have much of a life if you're dedicating that much time into a game. 100 hours is a long time even if you play 2 hours a day

    • @عبدالرحمنالجهني-ل8ي
      @عبدالرحمنالجهني-ل8ي 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrTheSmokinman you spend 2 hours watching youtube

    • @عبدالرحمنالجهني-ل8ي
      @عبدالرحمنالجهني-ل8ي 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrTheSmokinman stop pretending to be a big and very busy man on youtube you just make yourself look pathetic

    • @NikoKun
      @NikoKun 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's been out for months.. And yeah, a few hours playing in VR, every couple days or so, does reach 100 after a few months.
      I'm in my 30s, and I work as a personal assistant, and I end up with a lot of free time.. Was there any purpose to making an assumption like that?

  • @Krypto_Dogg
    @Krypto_Dogg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    AR won't be special for anything aside from computing. VR at a high enough resolution could fake most of that, especially with mixed reality.
    And we can stop acting like 3d wasn't cool. It was just early tech held back because of the eye strain.

    • @TheErudite21
      @TheErudite21 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOLLL AR will be huge in the short term, whereas VR will be a slow burn for decades

    • @Krypto_Dogg
      @Krypto_Dogg 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheErudite21 Nah, aside from Pokemon Go and Snapchat, AR will get serious use in things like manufacturing and productivity. VR is what will be used for entertainment.

    • @yousafkhan6921
      @yousafkhan6921 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Krypto_Dogg i feel like AR could replace tvs. Instead of a big screen you can wear glasses and connect that to your phone. Then you can play something like a movie on a wall through the glasses.

  • @harishj1979
    @harishj1979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VR is amazing, it deserves more attention.

  • @KyleFields
    @KyleFields 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The story behind Superhot VR messes with your head...

  • @akshaypanwar4964
    @akshaypanwar4964 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:11 , how fascinated Joe looks 😂😂😂😂

  • @guitarhero899
    @guitarhero899 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    thats phones gonna be great for porn lol

  • @captainphoenix
    @captainphoenix 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    WFDF shirt. Love the subtle shoutouts Marques sneaks into all his videos.

  • @moderation7337
    @moderation7337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best VR game out there is called Hyperdash. It's a First person shooter. Best movement mechanics. Precise aim. Dual wield. Currently free to play. Fastest paced best FPS ever

  • @pepsiguzzler86
    @pepsiguzzler86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm dying to see vr go into the realm of exercise and therapy. Essentially creating visual overlays that help teach you to coordinate your body correctly or most effectively IN ANY SCENARIO. Eg joint capsule stretches and rotator cuff exercises vs yoga/pilates movements vs jumping technique for athletic sports such as basketball and volleyball

  • @BOBSMITHH
    @BOBSMITHH 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thankyou for uploading these! I missed this one!

  • @TBK7
    @TBK7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Black guest wu tang shirt nice

  • @marleyjanim5033
    @marleyjanim5033 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for link to publishing

  • @HowToGoSupernova
    @HowToGoSupernova 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HTC did this YEARS ago! HTC EVO 3D...7 YEARS OLD! I had that phone.

  • @petervlcko4858
    @petervlcko4858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe "eyes drops" Rogan
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @quintan007
    @quintan007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That 3d tech might be what James Cameron uses for Avatar 2

  • @sahilparab8751
    @sahilparab8751 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Joe “Dude this is weird...this is odd” Rogan.

  • @TheCEODon
    @TheCEODon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a glasses free 3d tv 6 years ago. It was cool but the tech didn’t go anywhere

    • @aleckbo
      @aleckbo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think VR will go further than 3D TVs

  • @CyberChris-BTTS
    @CyberChris-BTTS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No love for Thrill of the Fight? First VR Boxing Simulator??

  • @oscarcastellanos9270
    @oscarcastellanos9270 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BY FAR...WAY FAR. The best VR game is Onward VR. Military simulation shooter. The most fun you can have with your pants on... unless you play with your pants off or whatever.

  • @shawnwinkler9153
    @shawnwinkler9153 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone have a link to what they are watching? I can't find anything that they are watching...

  • @nice1229
    @nice1229 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Joe please let us comment on your live streams or make a video of why you have it disabld

    • @JRettMTX
      @JRettMTX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He probably has it disabled cause most of us are out of our goddamn minds and he doesn't want to deal with it.

    • @MrTheSmokinman
      @MrTheSmokinman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Live streams are fun with a small audience. Like 50 people or less. Joe has millions of viewers. Your comment would never be seen. It would disappear in a instant of random gibberish that millions of other people are trying to get him to read or hundreds of spammers that flood the comments with the same comments like "suck my balls". This is why you'll never see legit famous people do live streams.

    • @aweffs
      @aweffs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People spew hate in live chat

  • @domtuco0711
    @domtuco0711 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i believe the holographic red hydrogen feature will be huge, imagine ur phone is on the tabep flat, but your are looking at the side of the phone you will be able to absorb media or see notifications w out looking at ur phone flat on

  • @bev8200
    @bev8200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not used to seeing kbhd in such low resolution

  • @djkoz78
    @djkoz78 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What hologram tech is he talking about? Can't seem to find any videos.

  • @macberry4048
    @macberry4048 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Joe would love a visit to Mkbhd studios and see the robot arm and all the other cool technologies

  • @bev8200
    @bev8200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the dialogue gets weird Joe goes crazy.

  • @JRettMTX
    @JRettMTX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watched this cartoon one time where these people got stuck in a videogame and couldn't get out and they'd die and shit if they died in the game, can't remember the name. But, it would be dope for that to come true without the getting stuck in the game.

    • @CR33SIVE
      @CR33SIVE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sword Art Online

    • @alexsimas6850
      @alexsimas6850 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sword Art Online lol

  • @21EC
    @21EC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:37 is that a special kind of smartphone that is able to show 3d media (with depth)?

  • @themsquaredgroup
    @themsquaredgroup 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joe knows his tech.

  • @rickybaillie4222
    @rickybaillie4222 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crime in a multi story car park is wrong on so many levels 🥁

  • @sl1pkn0t15
    @sl1pkn0t15 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superhot VR is top 5 vr games for sure

    • @Partylikeits-br7bb
      @Partylikeits-br7bb 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it worth playing even if I played the normal version?

    • @super117knight
      @super117knight 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Partylikeits-br7bb hell fucking yeah

    • @tdreamgmail
      @tdreamgmail 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s not that many good games in VR.

  • @otisenglish2718
    @otisenglish2718 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    @9:29 full grandpa mode.

  • @yohendryy
    @yohendryy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazon launched the same screen years ago

  • @kooky9924
    @kooky9924 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Repping the wu tang shirt... i respect it

  • @larssonk22
    @larssonk22 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to create an art installation just a series of portraits of Joe Rogan's expressions.

  • @Mikey_mau5
    @Mikey_mau5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where’s this full episode at?!

    • @bibekkarki4158
      @bibekkarki4158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's on TH-cam

    • @bibekkarki4158
      @bibekkarki4158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry I meant to say youtube.com

    • @bibekkarki4158
      @bibekkarki4158 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Okay you have to type www.youtube.com then you can find it if you search for it.

  • @mtp-tu3np
    @mtp-tu3np 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess they forgot about the htc Evo 3d from like 10 years ago lol

  • @JDaGoat0713
    @JDaGoat0713 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Battle dome is a pretty fun fps vr game if anyone wants something to try

  • @netforce0
    @netforce0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    is joe going to upgrade his recording quality? feels like 480p no matter what lol

    • @crunchy1547
      @crunchy1547 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      it doesn’t feel like 60 fps at all either, but it doesn’t really bother me that much

  • @GryteselvFPV
    @GryteselvFPV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    well, if you like planes VR are the stuff you wanna use while you play

  • @fruitninja78
    @fruitninja78 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whoa. This is wierd man.. - Joe

  • @vapeshrimp5220
    @vapeshrimp5220 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This feels like an edit with that music haha

  • @Rockefeller1
    @Rockefeller1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe "hwwoooww" Rogan

  • @caterpillarman
    @caterpillarman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superhot is awesome.

  • @samimotag
    @samimotag 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That boxing game looks fun!

  • @mikeywright9917
    @mikeywright9917 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joe “ my fucking feet are exhausted “ Rogan

  • @alanharrington
    @alanharrington 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superhot is awesome

  • @ckirrad
    @ckirrad 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never seen what this phones photos look like. But have you seen the HTC Evo 3d it's really old and had the same idea. I'm wondering how close they are

    • @ricardomunoz2010
      @ricardomunoz2010 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The new 3ds has amazing 3d technology. It has eye tracking so the 3d works well at different angles unlike previous models

  • @iamtruth217
    @iamtruth217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe "This is odd" Rogan

  • @djkoz78
    @djkoz78 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Resident Evil VR

  • @lukew2194
    @lukew2194 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let's start a go fund me so Joe can get a second VR setup.

  • @Jclements45
    @Jclements45 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Who's next?...Poodiepie?!

  • @bulletboy9748
    @bulletboy9748 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm fairly certain I played Pavlov with Joe

  • @faraci4286
    @faraci4286 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joe "forgot to mention Quake" Rogan

  • @megg6643
    @megg6643 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joe " Ex Machina" rogan

  • @Isaiah42069
    @Isaiah42069 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope video gaming evolves to VR and beyond past just a monitor and a box.

    • @Isaiah42069
      @Isaiah42069 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      not just gaming, but concerts, sporting events, movies, all sorts of stuff.. vacation locations. the the disabled. for the every-abled. the possibilities are endless.

  • @ZyBoyz
    @ZyBoyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    was he talking about thrill of the fight?

  • @ROBERTDAVis2271
    @ROBERTDAVis2271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE VIRTUAL REALITY 🔥🔥🔥

  • @ericjames8765
    @ericjames8765 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    is this the same tech as the 3DS?

    • @tp5691
      @tp5691 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Oak101 3ds has porn?

  • @zanethekeymasterr
    @zanethekeymasterr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can any smartphone screen display this “4view”? Could I look up a clip of it on my iPhone X? I

  • @Pejofficial
    @Pejofficial 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joe "its crazy" Rogan

  • @Ludak021
    @Ludak021 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    HTC EVO 3D. almost 10 years ago. Failed. So will this.

  • @jacktheripper4731
    @jacktheripper4731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Half Life Alyx, best VR lol

  • @satnamsingh9604
    @satnamsingh9604 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching This is 2022 No We don't Have Super Cheap VR Headsets

  • @uhohspaghetti0hh
    @uhohspaghetti0hh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joe says wow more than owen Wilson ffs

  • @hoastbeef1202
    @hoastbeef1202 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen that guy on TH-cam before.

    • @redtower8800
      @redtower8800 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And whats that comment supposed t mean?something smart i assume

  • @Kilroy_5150
    @Kilroy_5150 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joe, after seeing this episode i happen to buy a Steam VR game called "Drunken Bar Fight" and one of the guys (in the bar) comes at me yelling, "I learned this move from Joe Rogan!!!" which i thought was kinda funny considering you're into VR a little. Of course there was no "move" it was just something to add a little spice to the game.

  • @Drbrule-mv9yl
    @Drbrule-mv9yl 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else yawn when Joe yawned?

  • @ogimilosevic
    @ogimilosevic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Android has WhatsApp and Viber which is better, wtf?

  • @rob9530
    @rob9530 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joe is a simulation

    • @rob9530
      @rob9530 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fabi_87 whatever country you're from is an illusion. America is the only real one

    • @cooldude8478
      @cooldude8478 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol.

  • @Search-money
    @Search-money 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is he looking att!!

    • @hellpked
      @hellpked 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      flat earth. jk

  • @codyb0831
    @codyb0831 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quake vr

  • @khailephd
    @khailephd 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t know victor oladipo knew so much about VR

  • @ralphiecifaretto8961
    @ralphiecifaretto8961 ปีที่แล้ว

    VR is a fad. Only a small amount of people are into it and it's not going to grow.

  • @alextoma402
    @alextoma402 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk why you guys have un-woke MKBHD on this show

  • @EliteClinicalResearch
    @EliteClinicalResearch 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate 3D movies

    • @Krypto_Dogg
      @Krypto_Dogg 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love them. Nothing to hate. What I have are bad 3d movies meant just for higher ticket sales. Rogue One for instance was so dark it looked 2d.

  • @amaurys93
    @amaurys93 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So only Mexicans are allowed to wear ponchos. Great thinking, students!

  • @LoverOfManyArts
    @LoverOfManyArts 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    it sucks

  • @bh5817
    @bh5817 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    boring

  • @TheMasculinemillionaire
    @TheMasculinemillionaire 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second

  • @Zcob309
    @Zcob309 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    First?

  • @frankdobbs7862
    @frankdobbs7862 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a black man without a victim mentality

  • @notrealy180217
    @notrealy180217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    VR sucks so far. Maybe we naturally go into it with high expectations because we all see movies about VR and it's amazing, but everyone Ive talked to admits that there are very few actually good VR games at the moment. They are all vastly limited and cut off. Typically minigames essentially.

    • @Ruuubick
      @Ruuubick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "VR sucks" and "the VR content sucks" is a really big difference,. If you've tried it, you know VR is amazing, even if the content is mediocre.

    • @notrealy180217
      @notrealy180217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ruuubick Yes, exactly. I just meant the whole experience so far isn't nearly as good as it could be. Even the basic Playstation VR headset produces breathtaking effects. I wore one for the first time a few weeks ago and was taken back by the amount of depth perception. I am just bummed that someone hasn't made anything better for this. No real fpses that arent totally assisted, no MMOs... I mean we can finally do a .Hack VR MMO and we somehow just havent.

    • @ES315
      @ES315 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The problem is that no big developer wants to take the risk of making a game for VR when very few people actually own VR headsets. It's a huge risk and there's essentially no way to make your money back, so what we're left with is a bunch of hobbyists making games in their bedrooms who don't have the resources to do anything other than small minigames. It's a catch 22, nobody wants to invest in VR development until the market is there but nobody wants to buy a VR headset until there are more full games.

    • @notrealy180217
      @notrealy180217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ES315 Fuck, you're right

    • @notrealy180217
      @notrealy180217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ES315 I can't wait until they become cheaper. Hopefully they remain interesting until then and this isn't all just a fad. I want to think that it's here to stay. Until then, they could have more games that don't require the headset, but completely change the experience with one, like an MMO or an FPS. This way, anyone could get on, but it wouldn't be fair, and it's pretty expected that any good engaging game in VR would be way different and slower on a controller.