@@Azguella Don't be too sure about that. A thief might have an accomplice holding the lock for them. Or a padlock might be stably positionend by itself.
I’ve been using Abloy Enforcers for 12 years on my trailers. Basically the worst case scenario for any lock as they’re constantly moving around from bumpy roads and subject to all the rain, snow, mud, sand and god knows what else I’ve thrown at them in 1.5 million miles and 12 years. I’m on my third (current one is almost 7 years old) and I had to cut the other two after losing keys on the road (my failure not Abloy’s obviously). So yeah, they’re almost impossible to pick, you’re not cutting one off without an angle grinder and a lot of time, and with a little lock lube and minimal care they last pretty much indefinitely. There’s a reason they’re one of most used locks in our industry. Trucker approved for sure 👍
Absolutely agree, I've got over 1M on my current Abloy 350 and it works like new. Basically every trucking company with more than maybe 10-20 trucks buys these in bulk and issues them to all their drivers, and there are plenty of reasons for that.
Yep. My company issues them to every driver. Theyre expensive to replace so it hurt when I forgot mine on a drop n hook. I went back the next morning but the customer had used a grinder on it. I didnt tell my employer, just bought the best lick i could find at the next truck stop. I quickly saw the EXTREME difference in quality. The store lock said HARDENER on it, but it was flimsy and after only 2 weeks of use I almost coukdnt unlock it one day. Had to spray copius amounts of WD40 in ot just to get it off. Carried on like that for a month before accepting the $65 replacement fee was worth it.
You don't need to pick the lock to defeat it. All it takes is probably 15 to 20 seconds with a decent cordless die grinder, because the shackle is not protected. There is no need to improve the core any further except for a lockpicking competition.
@@saxtremer There is on veey good reason to improve a core: To get the lock to be tamper evident. If it is diffuclt/impossible to pick, there is more likely to be an actual break-in, thus leaving physical evidence of entry. You see your lock on your door every day. When did you last test it was still the same lock or how do yu know someone hasn't gained entry by picking the lock?
@@mikakorhonen5715 considering like two thirds of all locks can be shimmed or raked by a child that you gave a prybar and waverake to, that's a heck of an improvement. Also, you can probably assume that most people who can pick something like this are highly resourceful locksmiths or enthusiasts who don't really go around stealing shit by picking locks. An actual thief has a buffet of 5-10 second entries to choose from, they don't go for the hard mode for no reason
@@chitoryu12 nah he's not that good. Browse some locksport forums and he's a bit of a controversial figure because a lot of locksport people don't think he's particularly great but because he's popular they feel like there's a perception he's much better than he is. The general consensus is "Good but no better than anyone else who is the same age" which is to say he's not particularly notable outside of his TH-cam channel. However i like LPL and feel like there's a bit of jealousy in the locksport community. But he's definitely not "100 at lock picking", more like 60/70 in lock picking.
@@medes5597 I'd agree there's probably jealousy but he doesn't say he's a master lockpicker, he doesn't talk like he's one it's more the viewers that meme how good he is or say he's a master lockpicker and I'm not him so I can't say for certain but I think he just generally enjoys his hobby and wishes to teach people and/or share his love for the hobby. Edit: I'd also like to add that anyone can say anything on a forum without having to prove anything whereas LPL picks and then guts probably most of the locks to prove on video there's no bullshit and he's not replaced pins or removed them to make the lock easier to pick.
@@medes5597 guys like bosnianbill are jealous of his talents that says a lot. And most users of locksport forums can't crack a peanut butter sandwich let alone a kw1
They sale these locks by the hundreds of thousands if not more every year. It is the standard for transportation companies to secure loads. And alot of insurance companies require this lock on high value loads.
every country is jealous of our locks, because our locks are the greatest. We are going to impose trade tarrifs on our locks to our market competing nations and our allies. We're going to make padlocks great again.
@@dlevi67 Yeah, because that would be the fair thing to do. That democracy shit is real stupid anyway....Atleast when the result is not the one that YOU want.
@@flamingosalad3541 yup good job Sweden, you put your own well being first, in pretty much everything for 1000years, don't bash the usa for wanting to do the same. Time for the rest of the world to put their daddy pants on and pull their own weight.
If you’re curious as to why it is masterkeyed . Most enforcer locks are used by trucking companies to secure loads. Our companies have a master key on top of our key we have.
@@MsLinaTina It really is just the reverse of gutting. You take the discs you want as your new key, assemble them into the core and re-insert the core. Play backwards from 8:20 to 5:00 and you've basically got the rekey to the original key.
@@MsLinaTina Ihad to experience it once. with similar lock core as this, tho it was on door. it got jammed totally and I had to call an abloy crtified lock smith, he had a special drill bit to just drill the whole core out, and then he just lookd at my key and took a box thst had a buch of those discs and just assembly a new lock notjing special, like putting some legos to gether, it took like 10 minutes and the lock was like a new!!
That seemed like an impressive challenge, even for you. And to think in Finland, this core is typically used in lower security applications like mailboxes and such. Most exterior doors have at least execs in them.
I got a simple lockpicking kit as a teenager and it was a real shame realizing every lock in Finland is some sort of Abloy unless you go out of your way to buy a cheap 1€ lock to practice on. In the US even residential buildings often use those simple pin locks like you see in youtube beginner tutorials or video games.
I use a handful of these locks on a daily basis in my job... They're reliable, very heavy-duty, and can also double as a weapon if necessary lol. Thanks for putting out a video about these locks.
@@SP-df1nm : Short?!? This is the longest I've seen it take for LPL to pick a lock. Anything past a minute and half is already good enough for most real world applications.
Had these on our ISO containers in Afghanistan. We lost the key to one of them. Blunted a pair of bolt croppers - actually bent the pincers. Got the fire service out to angle grind. They went through two disks and it took them about 30 minutes. Very impressed with these.
I’m proud to be a Finn, once again. And it was good to hear that the Abloy Classic takes that long to pick. I have tweekied Abloy locks for 55 years and really like them. They are very clear and easy to rekey and also masterkey. That was interesting to hear that those Chinese cheapos can’t pick this if it has the anti pick disk. If I try to recall, those have been very common for decades. Next I have to make that beautiful tool of yours. We have our own traditional pic called ”Vempele” made by a smart thief very long time ago. It looks like that of yours.
Jestem wielkim wielbicielem firmy Abloy. Czy Ty jako obywatel Finlandii słyszałeś lub czytałeś w Finlandii wypowiedź firmy Abloy o filmach w internecie które pokazują otwieranie cylindra Abloy Protec 2 ? --- prawda czy kłamstwo ? Pozdrawiam z Warszawy
Wow, I guess my company made a damn fine choice to lock up semi trailers. Ive had the same Abloy since I started trucking and for 8 months this thing ridden on the door clasps of my trailers, being horrendously jostled and rocked for 10 hours a day as I drive and the only damage so far is a couple chips out of the top of the pad. I knew it was a tough son of a bitch, but I didnt know it was LPL approved
We have Abloy 350s at my place of work for when higher security is needed off of the warehouse premises, and I dropped it on my foot once. I got a pretty nice click out of 2 and some good binding on 3 for the next couple days. And I'm not talking about the lock.
Also have you ever tried picking abloys newer design? Their first used to be like the one in the video but a little bit bigger and the flat part of the D was curved aswell. Their newest one is almost hourglass shaped
Can't gell you how wide my grin is right now. LPL taking more than a minute to pick a lock and complementing it... I did not think I would feel pride to be from the same country as some lock...
I immediately went to see how much they cost and was shocked! Might buy one for my man as a gift. If it is LPL-approved he will love it, we love these videos!
Thank you for your recommendation! You just saved my bike from being stolen! A break in happened in our building's storage room and they broke the hasp thankfully the lock held up!
The company I drive for uses these locks on our trailers during transport. It's refreshing to both see its pick resistance and to see it get the LPL endorsement.
Hello Abloy is actyally fun name, AB in the front comes from swedish word AktieBolag and L in the middle is Lukko (which means lock in english) and OY means (OsakeYhtiö) , so thats how you get name ABLOY. here is wiki link to what AB and OY means in details. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osakeyhti%C3%B6 -Best regads Some finnish person.
What I find bizarre is that this lock is commonly used in Finland for low security applications, and they use even better Abloys for “more important” stuff. Is Finland a nation of sport pickers or something? I would think picking is the *least* often used method of defeating a lock.
John Early It used to be that only a handful of people could pick these. But Finland has lots of rural locations far from the nearest police response, so locks need to delay burglars for a lot longer. LPL and other skilled people can pick this in 2 minutes, so only good where police can respond in 2 minutes.
Best lock you can have as a truck driver. Been using these for five+ years, even had someone try to slice through it with a torch and bolt cutters and you could barely tell. These put up with a lot of dirt, rain, snow, ice, etc being in travel most of their lives and work flawlessly through it all.
Another excellent video. I also appreciate you mentioning what locks are better or best. The rest of us "normal" humans need feedback to what is a really good lock.
Love your videos. I'm a maintenance technician and everything I have learned from your videos has been very helpful. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge.
I have an abloy 341 with no key also, but I completely lack the skills to get into it non destructively.. if you want another one your welcome to have it..
I'm a truck driver for a LARGE U.S. carrier, they use Abloy pad locks just like this but with a different key shape. Great to know these locks are LDL approved =) You should get your hands on a kingpin lock and try and get it off while attached to a trailer!
Not sure if this is the PL341 or just 341 or if there is a difference but I found this. From a product sheet for the PL341:ABLOY® PROTEC2 keys are cut on two different radii, disks are blocked at their position after a quarter turn by the return bars. Return bars also scramble the disks during key exit and hold disks at position to prevent picking and false opening. Disc Steering System guides the key into the lock with no resistance for less key wear. Patented and highly restricted, ABLOY® PROTEC2 has over 1 billion useable combinations, no code is ever repeated. ABLOY® PROTEC2 has also proven to have an incredible resistance to physical attack and environmental situations, while being pick proof and bump proof.
This was an older LP341 with an Abloy Classic core. The Protec2 is an *entirely* different animal.. Scale the Protec2 up, and put a dial wheel on it, and you pretty much have what is on the absolute best bank vaults on the planet.
1 was given 3 of these years ago. They are hard enough to open with the key let alone a pick! I've only ever toyed with basic stuff, I appreciate the skill involved watching your videos.
I’ve used these for years but damn.. I never knew they were THAT badass. I mean to lpl they may not be too big of a deal but any lock that makes it past 3 minutes on an lpl video that he says he uses is a true boss level lock lol
Always straight to the point, always crediting the rightful people, always saying the video number when referencing own video. Goddamn, most professional youtuber, HANDS DOWN.
I work in a distribution center, and whenever we get a trailer that they forgot to unlock i get the pleasure to come and delock it. Well low and behold, I came upon this beaut. The 4 foot bolt cutters weren't doing the trick so I quickly moved on to the angle grinder. Had the lock off in less than a minute. But as soon as I saw what the core looked like I immediately wanted to see if LPL had already picked it. I knew it was going to be a step above the rest, but I didn't know it was going to be such a gem. Going to add it to my broken lock collection in my toolbox 😁
@@philipwheeler7317 : No one is going to wait for a driver to drive back and open it to save a $65 lock. Driving back, when they are already on the next leg, would also mess up their schedule. It's like a parking ticket - you made a mistake, you pay for it and learn to be more careful.
These locks are as standard where I work. I work for an electricity distribution company and all the gear and buildings are protected by several of these locks at a time. The ones we use are the newer protec 2 cores. I know they are very expensive but are clearly brilliant for their purposes. I am lucky I have a master key for these locks as I sure as hell would hate to pick one! Great job btw LPL
As long as you don't have either (or any, there can be more than two) of the original keyed keys, there's really no way to reliably extract the master key from just this sample. Also, even if you did, that'd only be the master key to the series this lock comes from. With ten discs, five of which have multiple gates at two each, you have 32 different keys that would work in _this_ lock. One or more of these may work in other locks, but with just this sample, we have no way of knowing which.
Using this tool makes you understand every movement if you pay attention at the hole on top of the tool. I love seeing you picking locks that dont have a key its like a mystery 😁😁
Omg I think this is the only lock that I got to pick before you. But I'm pretty sure you put it back together before me. I pick this lock when I lost my key somewhere in the mud but had a key from another lock but no core got super lucky that all to do was change the discs in a different combination. Boom I had a key and a lock that worked with no spare parts. I was already lucky just to pick it. Finding the way to pick it without a nice tool was hard enough. Awesome video wish it was out like 5 mouths ago would have came very handing but all good. 🔧🔩 thank you love your videos.
If somebody picked padlocks in the field, he would carry some small clamps to immobilize the padlock anyway. I don't think there's any good reason to avoid vises when filming. Padlocks are usually very close to some solid structure, and fastened to a hasp or chain. Two screw pin shackles welded into metal bar would work as clamps, the pins were replaced with normal machine screws. That metal bar were kept in place with knee or elbow, or an additional clamp.
I use Abloys here. I have several. I am pleased to see that they are such high security. They are very well made and simple to operate, key retaining padlocks.
What a lock! Took me a little over 3 hrs to pick the 341 with the chinese knockoff tool. Now to put in a new core and have a fine, usable lock. Perfect video to get these locks usable for a fraction of the cost of keyed locks.
LPL and BosnianBill have a 6-part video series about creating this tool which they hope will in the future be made by a lockpick manufacturer. The series starts with LPL video [823].
My company uses these to lock out semi-trailers. They’re good locks. They can be cut through but it requires either a lot of strength and time, or, a really beefy cutting disk and time. We have a security camera video of someone spending almost 15 minutes trying to get into one of our trailers at a drop yard. Took so long that our security guy just strolled over lazily and spooked him with a flashlight lol. If someone wants to get into one of these, best bet is to just be prepared to cut it.
I have two Abloy 241 that i have had for about 20 years, they have been used on everything from my garage door, motorbike chain and now securing my Kayak 12mm security wire rope, first class locks.
re-keying the abbloy 341? that reminds me i passed by the CT assa aboy factory a few days ago but arrived to late to take the tour (traffic) . its address is 110 Sargent Dr LOL!!!
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 its the location of the old sargent factory from the 1800's when the sargent brothers moved production from nyc to new haven CT USA. assa brought sargent in 1996 and its sub divisions. they make locks in the 300,000+feet factory and other buildings on its 30 acre property. Yale is also in the same state but in the middle of nowhere in a town called Berlin CT.
Had to look up this video as a truck driver left this lock on a trailer and didn’t take it off. The dread on my bosses face when I said it was boron based and that you liked this lock was perfect
It just occurred to me: In the "Lockpicking Video" racket, a mild case of OCPD--a disorder characterized by an excessive concern with attention to detail and orderliness--is a feature not a bug. Another GREAT video, LPL, thanks.
Your final comment about it being a disappointment, it wasn't entirely clear to me exactly why it was so. This is the first vaguely critical statement I have ever made on this channel, you are one of the most professional and competent humans I have ever encountered.
I'm happy to see you exploring the D shaped keyways on the disc detainer locks this week. I use a similar lock from LAI Group with a half moon shaped key, but the center of the spinner disc is bigger than the abloy, so it's more of a C shaped keyway. Would love to see one of those picked, happy to send you one.
The Protec 2 is basically the same core as the original Protec, except for the ball bearing in the key that pushes a spring-loaded pawl into a non-circular track. It is not an anti-pick measure, but rather prevents cast or CNC'd keys from being made without the proper blank (if the key didn't have a ball bearing, the twisting force would pinch the false key and prevent further rotation). Also, it extends the patent on the blanks to make sure Chinese companies don't start selling fake Abloy blanks in the near future. Key control with Abloy locks is quite strict. Canada Post uses the Abloy Protec, but they probably have their own key profile just for the mailboxes, since my generic Abloy key will fit in almost all keyways (including at some banks, McDonald's and the SQDC cannabis stores that we have in Canada now that it's legal), but it won't even go past the first disc in Canada Post locks. They were probably scared of people replacing the core with an "any key" core with true gates at all positions, since mailboxes are left unattended, and then reverse-engineering the master keys in their garage.
They are all picked😅 the hardest part is tool makeing. But with the right tool they are all the same what comes to picking. Have not seen a Abloy novel picked yet, but trust me its coming :D
LPL, the only reason that you needed the lock opened to gut, was to access the setscrew. When I remove the core from the 340/342 locks, I use the key to retain the discs in the cage. The 362 is the only current production Abloy that has to be open in order to remove the core. The 362 core comes out of the top of the lock. I'm interested in what core you're going to reinstall.
One thing the is important in lock picking is physical access to a lock. I've seen a puck Abloy lock with a thick metal shield over it, a bit like a tube with a hole in the side that only ONE hand can just fit in with the key it would be impossible to get a pick in or two hands on. the bottom of the tube is closed and the metal was about 15mm thick !
Have you tried the new or new'ish abloys ? Here in Finland 99.999% of the houses have abloy locks, if not 100%. Haven't even seen anyone without one on their front door but it's usually the newer variants.
Today I picked a lock for the first time in my life. Using 2 bobby pins I was able to escape from the room I was held captive in. Your videos really does help, thank you.
WOW, almost 3 minutes with a specialty tool your typical thief would not have in their toolset. That is an incredible lock. The whole assembly is also pretty heavy duty too.
I wish we could have seen you match a key to a new set of disks. I have never done/seen that with a disk detainer core. Of course, I get why you didn't show it in this case.
True, but that's quite a leap to even know who he is or where he lives, to then find the lock that he keyed, and then on top of that be able to pick it!
@@sfmc98 Yes, but you're assuming his foe would be a random subscriber. What if it's somebody who knows him in real life? Plus, they don't have to pick it... They could have a key made once they know the bitting.
@@LogicBob That's why I said they'd have to know him, find that specific lock of whatever it protected, and now, have the expertise to have a key made based upon a video they watched? *Possible* but not plausible.
Logic Bob You have to have a card that came with the lock in order to get a new key made by anyone authorized to make the keys. I’m sure if you look you can find equipment and blanks or someone who will copy the key when they shouldn’t, but that would added into your plan.
Awesome to see the inside of a disk detainer lock now I have to continue going through your archive to see if there is a wafer core deconstruction lock so I can see the inside of one of them!
Abloy 340’s and 350’s are the only lock I use and trust on my trailers and storage units. They are virtually pick proof unless your the Lock Picking Lawyer. They are extremely reliable and for the money much better than anything Medeco or Best offer.
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When you don't hear the words "Not too hard a pick" from LPL it's bound to be near impossible for anyone else.
True.
And like he said trying to do it solo while holding the lock makes it alone impossible
@@Azguella Don't be too sure about that. A thief might have an accomplice holding the lock for them. Or a padlock might be stably positionend by itself.
@@kevinprice2274 Did you even read what I wrote? "trying to do it SOLO" and getting them stable depends on where they are put on
@@Azguella @Kevin Price is either a complete bozo, or else he's just new here.
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From now on you should refer to the vice as "friend"
You really got my balls in a friend here man
@@CPT_Nelson I think it would be Miami friend, not plural.
@@Alexander_l322 Fixed! :D
Stick some googly eyes on it and nobody could ever complain that it isn't
"Thanks for watching. Keep your dick in a friend."
I’ve been using Abloy Enforcers for 12 years on my trailers. Basically the worst case scenario for any lock as they’re constantly moving around from bumpy roads and subject to all the rain, snow, mud, sand and god knows what else I’ve thrown at them in 1.5 million miles and 12 years. I’m on my third (current one is almost 7 years old) and I had to cut the other two after losing keys on the road (my failure not Abloy’s obviously). So yeah, they’re almost impossible to pick, you’re not cutting one off without an angle grinder and a lot of time, and with a little lock lube and minimal care they last pretty much indefinitely. There’s a reason they’re one of most used locks in our industry. Trucker approved for sure 👍
Disclaimer: Since that kinda sounded like a commercial I should point out nobody’s paying me to say the above, those thoughts are all mine.
Absolutely agree, I've got over 1M on my current Abloy 350 and it works like new. Basically every trucking company with more than maybe 10-20 trucks buys these in bulk and issues them to all their drivers, and there are plenty of reasons for that.
Yep. My company issues them to every driver. Theyre expensive to replace so it hurt when I forgot mine on a drop n hook. I went back the next morning but the customer had used a grinder on it.
I didnt tell my employer, just bought the best lick i could find at the next truck stop. I quickly saw the EXTREME difference in quality. The store lock said HARDENER on it, but it was flimsy and after only 2 weeks of use I almost coukdnt unlock it one day. Had to spray copius amounts of WD40 in ot just to get it off. Carried on like that for a month before accepting the $65 replacement fee was worth it.
What kind of lock lube?
makes sense that they're popular with truckers. I found mine while sitting in traffic. someone had left it on the concrete highway divider.
99.999 of population could not pick this lock. The special tool and intricate knowledge of the lock needed is a killer. I would buy this lock.
Yes plus he needed the lock to be steady.
You don't need to pick the lock to defeat it. All it takes is probably 15 to 20 seconds with a decent cordless die grinder, because the shackle is not protected. There is no need to improve the core any further except for a lockpicking competition.
@@saxtremer There is on veey good reason to improve a core: To get the lock to be tamper evident. If it is diffuclt/impossible to pick, there is more likely to be an actual break-in, thus leaving physical evidence of entry.
You see your lock on your door every day. When did you last test it was still the same lock or how do yu know someone hasn't gained entry by picking the lock?
I worry those 0,001. There is still 77000 people who can pick this lock and 55,2 from those are here in Finland. :(
@@mikakorhonen5715 considering like two thirds of all locks can be shimmed or raked by a child that you gave a prybar and waverake to, that's a heck of an improvement. Also, you can probably assume that most people who can pick something like this are highly resourceful locksmiths or enthusiasts who don't really go around stealing shit by picking locks. An actual thief has a buffet of 5-10 second entries to choose from, they don't go for the hard mode for no reason
"people often asks about locks that i would use"
😲 WE'VE BEEN BEGGING EVERYDAY 😭
@WhyMaro LPL is basically Lockpicking 100 in real life. The number of locks he's failed to break is like, 2. Maybe.
@@chitoryu12 nah he's not that good. Browse some locksport forums and he's a bit of a controversial figure because a lot of locksport people don't think he's particularly great but because he's popular they feel like there's a perception he's much better than he is.
The general consensus is "Good but no better than anyone else who is the same age" which is to say he's not particularly notable outside of his TH-cam channel. However i like LPL and feel like there's a bit of jealousy in the locksport community. But he's definitely not "100 at lock picking", more like 60/70 in lock picking.
@@medes5597 I'd agree there's probably jealousy but he doesn't say he's a master lockpicker, he doesn't talk like he's one it's more the viewers that meme how good he is or say he's a master lockpicker and I'm not him so I can't say for certain but I think he just generally enjoys his hobby and wishes to teach people and/or share his love for the hobby.
Edit: I'd also like to add that anyone can say anything on a forum without having to prove anything whereas LPL picks and then guts probably most of the locks to prove on video there's no bullshit and he's not replaced pins or removed them to make the lock easier to pick.
@@medes5597 guys like bosnianbill are jealous of his talents that says a lot. And most users of locksport forums can't crack a peanut butter sandwich let alone a kw1
@@nuggert I like LPL but he's more like a popular face for locksport than anything else.
Sales for this lock about to go up with the LPL endorsement
They sale these locks by the hundreds of thousands if not more every year. It is the standard for transportation companies to secure loads. And alot of insurance companies require this lock on high value loads.
Stonks
This lock has the very old classic core, its not the one you want, newer abloys have much more secure cores than this like protec2 core.
@Lassi Kinnunen "thingy" = vempele? (one of two words I know in Finnish!)
@@shanewiley9190 Also common to find these on vending machines.
I built these locks and their other padlocks. They're assembled by hand. Great workplace and great locks.
every country is jealous of our locks, because our locks are the greatest. We are going to impose trade tarrifs on our locks to our market competing nations and our allies. We're going to make padlocks great again.
@@flamingosalad3541 Would you mind locking a few Brexit doors with them?
Hyvät työkaverit tekevät paikasta kuin paikasta mahtavan!
@@dlevi67 Yeah, because that would be the fair thing to do.
That democracy shit is real stupid anyway....Atleast when the result is not the one that YOU want.
@@flamingosalad3541 yup good job Sweden, you put your own well being first, in pretty much everything for 1000years, don't bash the usa for wanting to do the same. Time for the rest of the world to put their daddy pants on and pull their own weight.
"Hey there, friend, could you hold this for me?"
"Sure, but wh-"
"Nice click out of six..."
If you’re curious as to why it is masterkeyed . Most enforcer locks are used by trucking companies to secure loads. Our companies have a master key on top of our key we have.
That lock put up a hell of a fight for a master-keyed system with discs that are a "disappointment."
And requires a purpose-built tool that few criminals will have.
@@bdf2718 Doesn't require, just makes it a hell of a lot easier.
@@matthewpiper4328
Even with the tool, it wasn't that easy. As the OP said, it put up a hell of a fight.
@@bdf2718 notice I said easier, not easy.
You're not gonna be picking this with a screwdriver and a bobby pin.
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Its a 200$ lock.
The employees of Police Plaza still has doubts about this lock.
NYC10038 I think it's the old weaker model...
@@2ShotsDown Interesting. It's a 60€ lock here in Finland.
@@DG-qq6gz ?
I thought you were going to rekey on camera, but now I realise that would just be dumb.
It would be neat to see how rekeying is done though. Maybe on one of the practice locks where it wouldn't matter.
@@MsLinaTina yeah that would be awesome
zac chambers He could just rekey for a practice key, then rekey again off camera.
@@MsLinaTina It really is just the reverse of gutting. You take the discs you want as your new key, assemble them into the core and re-insert the core. Play backwards from 8:20 to 5:00 and you've basically got the rekey to the original key.
@@MsLinaTina Ihad to experience it once. with similar lock core as this, tho it was on door. it got jammed totally and I had to call an abloy crtified lock smith, he had a special drill bit to just drill the whole core out, and then he just lookd at my key and took a box thst had a buch of those discs and just assembly a new lock notjing special, like putting some legos to gether, it took like 10 minutes and the lock was like a new!!
These are great padlocks. I bought one years ago. Great video!
yepp!
Railroad term for these locks are “Switch Locks”.
That seemed like an impressive challenge, even for you. And to think in Finland, this core is typically used in lower security applications like mailboxes and such. Most exterior doors have at least execs in them.
Execs are just as easy to pick, or even easier ;)
But everything in Finland is better than China or even the USA
All Abloys are really hard to pick.
Ridiculously easy to drill though, so they don't offer much security in reality
TonyS Locks unprotected yes, but most of them have hardened spinner discs.
I got a simple lockpicking kit as a teenager and it was a real shame realizing every lock in Finland is some sort of Abloy unless you go out of your way to buy a cheap 1€ lock to practice on. In the US even residential buildings often use those simple pin locks like you see in youtube beginner tutorials or video games.
When a lock takes longer than 60 seconds from LPL you know its a godly lock
I use a handful of these locks on a daily basis in my job... They're reliable, very heavy-duty, and can also double as a weapon if necessary lol. Thanks for putting out a video about these locks.
What do you do for a living?
@@GetIsekaid
Employed at "Sweet granny goose's daycare and child sitting services".
Probably a semi truck driver
LPL: "finally a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary"
And short
@@SP-df1nm : Short?!? This is the longest I've seen it take for LPL to pick a lock.
Anything past a minute and half is already good enough for most real world applications.
Had these on our ISO containers in Afghanistan. We lost the key to one of them. Blunted a pair of bolt croppers - actually bent the pincers. Got the fire service out to angle grind. They went through two disks and it took them about 30 minutes.
Very impressed with these.
I’m proud to be a Finn, once again. And it was good to hear that the Abloy Classic takes that long to pick. I have tweekied Abloy locks for 55 years and really like them. They are very clear and easy to rekey and also masterkey. That was interesting to hear that those Chinese cheapos can’t pick this if it has the anti pick disk. If I try to recall, those have been very common for decades. Next I have to make that beautiful tool of yours. We have our own traditional pic called ”Vempele” made by a smart thief very long time ago. It looks like that of yours.
Jestem wielkim wielbicielem firmy Abloy. Czy Ty jako obywatel Finlandii słyszałeś lub czytałeś w Finlandii wypowiedź firmy Abloy o filmach w internecie które pokazują otwieranie cylindra Abloy Protec 2 ? --- prawda czy kłamstwo ?
Pozdrawiam z Warszawy
Lock Company's should get Awards if they're locks makes it past the 90 second mark on this channel
Yeah, replace that star system they use with an LPL time.
@@bdf2718 just a sea of "under 15 seconds", the occasional "30 seconds", and one or two "minutes"
With 100 year old design... What have the other companies been doing all this time?
LPL takes more than 2 minutes to open the lock on a vice with a special tool and expreience.
Lock company: *Stonks*
Master lock: "I see nothing, I know NOTHING!"
Wow, I guess my company made a damn fine choice to lock up semi trailers. Ive had the same Abloy since I started trucking and for 8 months this thing ridden on the door clasps of my trailers, being horrendously jostled and rocked for 10 hours a day as I drive and the only damage so far is a couple chips out of the top of the pad. I knew it was a tough son of a bitch, but I didnt know it was LPL approved
We have Abloy 350s at my place of work for when higher security is needed off of the warehouse premises, and I dropped it on my foot once.
I got a pretty nice click out of 2 and some good binding on 3 for the next couple days. And I'm not talking about the lock.
love it when we get to : "not sure what's holding us up" only to have the lock open a few secs later 😂😂
Those are the magic words he uses to get the lock to stop resisting....
You could have removed the set screw, closed the lock and locked it to remove the tool and then unscrew the core cap to disassemble :)
Jaakko Fagerlund I realized that as I was unscrewing the retainer, then decided not to draw attention to my mental lapse. 😜
Abloy are the only locks we have in finland so it's good to hear you like them
Also have you ever tried picking abloys newer design?
Their first used to be like the one in the video but a little bit bigger and the flat part of the D was curved aswell.
Their newest one is almost hourglass shaped
@@Zorkz protec 2?
What about Assa?
@@tinpicker8688 Yeah that one
@@two_tier_gary_rumain that's the same thing as abloy
2:04 "I'm tensioning off of ten."
Me: "Did he say TEN??!!"
Can't gell you how wide my grin is right now. LPL taking more than a minute to pick a lock and complementing it... I did not think I would feel pride to be from the same country as some lock...
To ‘complement’ is to complete.
To ‘compliment’ is to praise.
Nice steady friend you got there :)
Good content as always !
Stable friend? I didn't know he was a rancher.
@@nopenope7184 Damned, edited. The moment when you switch languages for one word and it f*cks up your sentence ._.
Thanks though :D
@@KagaminaraShikatsu I meant it more as a joke, but that's ok.
Stable friend, was a perfectly acceptable phrase. It just so happens that it could also refer to a horse
@@ouzoloves Got it, thanks for that :3
I immediately went to see how much they cost and was shocked! Might buy one for my man as a gift. If it is LPL-approved he will love it, we love these videos!
Thank you for your recommendation! You just saved my bike from being stolen! A break in happened in our building's storage room and they broke the hasp thankfully the lock held up!
The company I drive for uses these locks on our trailers during transport. It's refreshing to both see its pick resistance and to see it get the LPL endorsement.
You know it's a badass lock when LPL spends 4 mins on a lock trying to pick it, instead of the usual 20 seconds.
Hello
Abloy is actyally fun name, AB in the front comes from swedish word AktieBolag and L in the middle is Lukko (which means lock in english) and OY means (OsakeYhtiö) , so thats how you get name ABLOY.
here is wiki link to what AB and OY means in details.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osakeyhti%C3%B6
-Best regads
Some finnish person.
Finally a tear down of a good lock, thanks LPL. Nice job on the open as well.
This is the best genuine endorsement I've ever seen for a product on TH-cam.
"were going to pretend this vice is a friend-" hit too close too home
*smiles at drink in hand*
Help me
You usually open locks in the same amount it takes me to open a can of coke,
this must be one hell of a lock
What I find bizarre is that this lock is commonly used in Finland for low security applications, and they use even better Abloys for “more important” stuff. Is Finland a nation of sport pickers or something? I would think picking is the *least* often used method of defeating a lock.
Well, Abloy has been here for over 120 years, so "buy finnish" :)
John Early It used to be that only a handful of people could pick these. But Finland has lots of rural locations far from the nearest police response, so locks need to delay burglars for a lot longer. LPL and other skilled people can pick this in 2 minutes, so only good where police can respond in 2 minutes.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 It would take far less than 2 minutes to grind through the spinner and the discs... and a lot less skill.
@@dlevi67 Sure, just you don't always wish to be heard.
@@paweskarzynski8068 That is true; the Finns are very good shooters!
Best lock you can have as a truck driver. Been using these for five+ years, even had someone try to slice through it with a torch and bolt cutters and you could barely tell. These put up with a lot of dirt, rain, snow, ice, etc being in travel most of their lives and work flawlessly through it all.
Another excellent video. I also appreciate you mentioning what locks are better or best. The rest of us "normal" humans need feedback to what is a really good lock.
Love your videos. I'm a maintenance technician and everything I have learned from your videos has been very helpful. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge.
I have an abloy 341 with no key also, but I completely lack the skills to get into it non destructively.. if you want another one your welcome to have it..
Russell Warren thanks for the offer, but I just got five of these without keys for $20. I’m set. 👍
@@lockpickinglawyer no problem.
I’m trying to learn and am trying to find ones on eBay and whatnot. What sort of $ do you want?
I'm a truck driver for a LARGE U.S. carrier, they use Abloy pad locks just like this but with a different key shape. Great to know these locks are LDL approved =) You should get your hands on a kingpin lock and try and get it off while attached to a trailer!
"Not sure what's holding us up" = another 15 seconds required.
Not sure if this is the PL341 or just 341 or if there is a difference but I found this.
From a product sheet for the PL341:ABLOY® PROTEC2 keys are cut on two different radii, disks are blocked at their position after a quarter turn by the return bars. Return bars also scramble the disks during key exit and hold disks at position to prevent picking and false opening. Disc Steering System guides the key into the lock with no resistance for less key wear. Patented and highly restricted, ABLOY® PROTEC2 has over 1 billion useable combinations, no code is ever repeated. ABLOY® PROTEC2 has also proven to have an incredible resistance to physical attack and environmental situations, while being pick proof and bump proof.
This was an older LP341 with an Abloy Classic core. The Protec2 is an *entirely* different animal.. Scale the Protec2 up, and put a dial wheel on it, and you pretty much have what is on the absolute best bank vaults on the planet.
@@andersjjensen Thanks for the info. Good to know!
I found this exact lock on the ground in a loading dock with the key in it. I could tell it was a good lock by the way the key felt inside it.
What did you do with it?
1 was given 3 of these years ago. They are hard enough to open with the key let alone a pick! I've only ever toyed with basic stuff, I appreciate the skill involved watching your videos.
I’ve used these for years but damn.. I never knew they were THAT badass. I mean to lpl they may not be too big of a deal but any lock that makes it past 3 minutes on an lpl video that he says he uses is a true boss level lock lol
A trucking company I drove for (10.5 years) required us to use only ABLOY to lock the trailers. They said they were the best.
Great seeing an expert challenged in their respective vocation for once!
Always straight to the point, always crediting the rightful people, always saying the video number when referencing own video. Goddamn, most professional youtuber, HANDS DOWN.
I bought one of these in a thrift store with one key. Had to struggle to keep my poker face from breaking into a big grin before I got out the door!
I work in a distribution center, and whenever we get a trailer that they forgot to unlock i get the pleasure to come and delock it.
Well low and behold, I came upon this beaut. The 4 foot bolt cutters weren't doing the trick so I quickly moved on to the angle grinder. Had the lock off in less than a minute. But as soon as I saw what the core looked like I immediately wanted to see if LPL had already picked it.
I knew it was going to be a step above the rest, but I didn't know it was going to be such a gem. Going to add it to my broken lock collection in my toolbox 😁
They drop the trailer?? Because that is a $$ lock. Just ask the driver to remove it.. just saying as a trucker I'd be pissed if ya cut up my locks.
@@philipwheeler7317 : No one is going to wait for a driver to drive back and open it to save a $65 lock. Driving back, when they are already on the next leg, would also mess up their schedule.
It's like a parking ticket - you made a mistake, you pay for it and learn to be more careful.
Like I told Bosnian Bill, this is much better than politics. Thanks for the meditation.
These locks are as standard where I work. I work for an electricity distribution company and all the gear and buildings are protected by several of these locks at a time. The ones we use are the newer protec 2 cores. I know they are very expensive but are clearly brilliant for their purposes. I am lucky I have a master key for these locks as I sure as hell would hate to pick one! Great job btw LPL
{pauses video near end} {takes screenshot} {measures angles} {starts filing down metal stock} The master key shall be ours, oh yes.
Given there's a few hundreds of thousands of these around, good luck in finding one where the master key fits... :-)
Well, he's going to change them. Mix and match, so that wouldn't work. Lol
As long as you don't have either (or any, there can be more than two) of the original keyed keys, there's really no way to reliably extract the master key from just this sample. Also, even if you did, that'd only be the master key to the series this lock comes from. With ten discs, five of which have multiple gates at two each, you have 32 different keys that would work in _this_ lock. One or more of these may work in other locks, but with just this sample, we have no way of knowing which.
Using this tool makes you understand every movement if you pay attention at the hole on top of the tool. I love seeing you picking locks that dont have a key its like a mystery 😁😁
When he says I haven’t done this before it’s so exciting! This was a great episode.
Really nice to see you recommend a lock... thank you 😜👍👍👍
i have a abloy lock from the 1950s and it still works like it was new
Omg I think this is the only lock that I got to pick before you. But I'm pretty sure you put it back together before me. I pick this lock when I lost my key somewhere in the mud but had a key from another lock but no core got super lucky that all to do was change the discs in a different combination. Boom I had a key and a lock that worked with no spare parts. I was already lucky just to pick it. Finding the way to pick it without a nice tool was hard enough. Awesome video wish it was out like 5 mouths ago would have came very handing but all good. 🔧🔩 thank you love your videos.
If somebody picked padlocks in the field, he would carry some small clamps to immobilize the padlock anyway. I don't think there's any good reason to avoid vises when filming. Padlocks are usually very close to some solid structure, and fastened to a hasp or chain. Two screw pin shackles welded into metal bar would work as clamps, the pins were replaced with normal machine screws. That metal bar were kept in place with knee or elbow, or an additional clamp.
I use Abloys here. I have several. I am pleased to see that they are such high security. They are very well made and simple to operate, key retaining padlocks.
Haha these are the locks my work uses for semi trailers.
Ours too. Prime inc.
Well nice to know Swift got something right...
These padlocks are common in the trucking industry in the United States. A lot of the larger trucking companies use this model.
Would be a cool video if you can show us the process of choosing new internals and how to make a matching key
What a lock! Took me a little over 3 hrs to pick the 341 with the chinese knockoff tool. Now to put in a new core and have a fine, usable lock. Perfect video to get these locks usable for a fraction of the cost of keyed locks.
I found this relaxing to watch.
This video is the first time I have seen a legitimate pick of an alloy
Incredible!
It would be interesting to see how you make the specialized tools you use for picking.
Jack
LPL and BosnianBill have a 6-part video series about creating this tool which they hope will in the future be made by a lockpick manufacturer. The series starts with LPL video [823].
@@ExTechOp : Do note this is *not* the tool LPL and BosnianBill made together. This is more specialty, made by LPL himself.
My company uses these to lock out semi-trailers. They’re good locks.
They can be cut through but it requires either a lot of strength and time, or, a really beefy cutting disk and time.
We have a security camera video of someone spending almost 15 minutes trying to get into one of our trailers at a drop yard. Took so long that our security guy just strolled over lazily and spooked him with a flashlight lol.
If someone wants to get into one of these, best bet is to just be prepared to cut it.
Awesome job both on the pick and the picking of that Abloy Classic.
Daz Evers Thanks, though credit on the pick mostly goes to HuxleyPig. 👍
I have two Abloy 241 that i have had for about 20 years, they have been used on everything from my garage door, motorbike chain and now securing my Kayak 12mm security wire rope, first class locks.
Keep your lock in a vise!
Ave?
@@lockpickinglawyer You are skookum as frig!
@@lockpickinglawyer Chooching them doll hairs
If you know you know, AvE!
Those discs look so happy.
Your friend Vice has such a strong grip! :D
LPL should be on a Abloy ad saying "It took me almost three minutes to pick this lock"
Better yet, "this is the lock Lockpicking Lawyer uses himself".
re-keying the abbloy 341? that reminds me i passed by the CT assa aboy factory a few days ago but arrived to late to take the tour (traffic) . its address is 110 Sargent Dr LOL!!!
bird718 Would that be a US division or a translation of their Finnish factory address?
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 Sargent & Greenleaf is a famous (well, at least a little bit famous) American brand of high security combination locks.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563
its the location of the old sargent factory from the 1800's when the sargent brothers moved production from nyc to new haven CT USA. assa brought sargent in 1996 and its sub divisions. they make locks in the 300,000+feet factory and other buildings on its 30 acre property. Yale is also in the same state but in the middle of nowhere in a town called Berlin CT.
Had to look up this video as a truck driver left this lock on a trailer and didn’t take it off. The dread on my bosses face when I said it was boron based and that you liked this lock was perfect
It just occurred to me: In the "Lockpicking Video" racket, a mild case of OCPD--a disorder characterized by an excessive concern with attention to detail and orderliness--is a feature not a bug.
Another GREAT video, LPL, thanks.
Your final comment about it being a disappointment, it wasn't entirely clear to me exactly why it was so. This is the first vaguely critical statement I have ever made on this channel, you are one of the most professional and competent humans I have ever encountered.
Nice if lpl says it's tricky that means it's nigh on impossible for us ordinary plebs.... I'll look out for those Abloy locks.
I'm happy to see you exploring the D shaped keyways on the disc detainer locks this week. I use a similar lock from LAI Group with a half moon shaped key, but the center of the spinner disc is bigger than the abloy, so it's more of a C shaped keyway. Would love to see one of those picked, happy to send you one.
Tj Beyer That’s a copy of the Abloy profile. I’ll eventually make a tool for them. 👍
For a moment there I thought you were going to pick a Protec on video.
But thats coming, right? :)
Maybe someday. It’s not on my radar yet.
This was just "Classic" core. PL 341 is availabe ABLOY SENTO, ABLOY SENTRY, ABLOY PROTEC2, ABLOY PROTEC and ABLOY CLASSIC cores.
The Protec 2 is basically the same core as the original Protec, except for the ball bearing in the key that pushes a spring-loaded pawl into a non-circular track. It is not an anti-pick measure, but rather prevents cast or CNC'd keys from being made without the proper blank (if the key didn't have a ball bearing, the twisting force would pinch the false key and prevent further rotation). Also, it extends the patent on the blanks to make sure Chinese companies don't start selling fake Abloy blanks in the near future.
Key control with Abloy locks is quite strict. Canada Post uses the Abloy Protec, but they probably have their own key profile just for the mailboxes, since my generic Abloy key will fit in almost all keyways (including at some banks, McDonald's and the SQDC cannabis stores that we have in Canada now that it's legal), but it won't even go past the first disc in Canada Post locks. They were probably scared of people replacing the core with an "any key" core with true gates at all positions, since mailboxes are left unattended, and then reverse-engineering the master keys in their garage.
They are all picked😅 the hardest part is tool makeing. But with the right tool they are all the same what comes to picking. Have not seen a Abloy novel picked yet, but trust me its coming :D
Yep!
That lock works 😂
The trucking company I work for uses these exact locks
LPL, the only reason that you needed the lock opened to gut, was to access the setscrew. When I remove the core from the 340/342 locks, I use the key to retain the discs in the cage.
The 362 is the only current production Abloy that has to be open in order to remove the core. The 362 core comes out of the top of the lock.
I'm interested in what core you're going to reinstall.
One thing the is important in lock picking is physical access to a lock. I've seen a puck Abloy lock with a thick metal shield over it, a bit like a tube with a hole in the side that only ONE hand can just fit in with the key it would be impossible to get a pick in or two hands on. the bottom of the tube is closed and the metal was about 15mm thick !
"And next up on the autopsy table today we have........"
Came here after buying a boat that came with an Abloy 350. Feeling pretty comfortable 😁
Well, anything keeping you out for a good 3 mins gets my vote!
What an artisan's work this tools. Tip my hat!
Have you tried the new or new'ish abloys ? Here in Finland 99.999% of the houses have abloy locks, if not 100%. Haven't even seen anyone without one on their front door but it's usually the newer variants.
There are some iLOQs, especially in apartment buildings. And then a nearly non-existant number of others.
Today I picked a lock for the first time in my life. Using 2 bobby pins I was able to escape from the room I was held captive in. Your videos really does help, thank you.
Yeah sure dude
Your mistress wanted you to escape.. you'll be punished for it later... But that's what you wanted, wasn't it?
i think the seller knew that you didn’t need a key for the lock
WOW, almost 3 minutes with a specialty tool your typical thief would not have in their toolset. That is an incredible lock.
The whole assembly is also pretty heavy duty too.
ruediix 100 year old core, nothing fancy.
XtreeM FaiL a 100 year core that took 95 years before a tool to pick it became publicly available
I wish we could have seen you match a key to a new set of disks. I have never done/seen that with a disk detainer core.
Of course, I get why you didn't show it in this case.
True, but that's quite a leap to even know who he is or where he lives, to then find the lock that he keyed, and then on top of that be able to pick it!
@@sfmc98 Yes, but you're assuming his foe would be a random subscriber. What if it's somebody who knows him in real life? Plus, they don't have to pick it... They could have a key made once they know the bitting.
@@LogicBob That's why I said they'd have to know him, find that specific lock of whatever it protected, and now, have the expertise to have a key made based upon a video they watched? *Possible* but not plausible.
Logic Bob You have to have a card that came with the lock in order to get a new key made by anyone authorized to make the keys. I’m sure if you look you can find equipment and blanks or someone who will copy the key when they shouldn’t, but that would added into your plan.
Awesome to see the inside of a disk detainer lock now I have to continue going through your archive to see if there is a wafer core deconstruction lock so I can see the inside of one of them!
Buying locks without the keys so they're cheaper AND you can make a video out of it, nice
Abloy 340’s and 350’s are the only lock I use and trust on my trailers and storage units. They are virtually pick proof unless your the Lock Picking Lawyer. They are extremely reliable and for the money much better than anything Medeco or Best offer.