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I wouldn't say that "cash is king." What I would say is king is when you mention, "I will buy the bike today if we can agree on price." I have gotten really good deals on motorcycles and cars, but it was my willingness to close the deal immediately that got me the price that I wanted. Dealers and private sellers don't want people that are constantly coming around and just "kicking the tires."
If you mentioned you are paying cash before walking into the finance office, you did not get the rock bottom price 100% guaranteed. I've been in the car business for years. Started at sales, then internet, the finance, then finance director, then sales manager, the GSM. Got out to finish my EE and became an Engineer to spend more time with the family. I absolutely guarantee you left more money on the table than on you should have
I always mention cash and I always get the best deal. Like I said in the video, the dealer would rather you finance BUT in the winter the dealer just wants to move old stock fast, even if they only break even. Often times there is a rebate available in the winter as well.
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I bought my 13 monster doing exactly what you do! I had it shipped. Sight unseen except for pics and vids. Dealer was reputable. So much easier than dealing with sales people. Bought it directly from the manager.
I live in Hawaii. They add $3000 to MSRP for convenience. I buy on the mainland and even with shipping still save thousands but it takes 4 weeks before you receive .
As the general manager for a motorcycle shop, this guy is 100% correct. Except for one major point. Always finance a motorcycle, then pay it off on the first month if you have the cash. We all get kickbacks, and they’re worth it, even in the winter time to us. We’ll give you a better deal.
I don't mess with any debt. Also, banks will charge an early pay-off fee if you try to pay the loan off after the first month. Banks have a bag of tricks.
Good tips ! I am lucky enough to have a local shop that is great to work with . Salesmen are open and upfront , good service and best of all the owner is a friend !
Just bought one with your advise. It's amazing the luck you can have with Uship/ shipping when you can catch a transport who happens to be coming to your area. This is the best time to buy 2020 and I am thinking about buying another.Thanks.
This technique does work. I just bought a brand new 2017 Honda cbr 1000 rr ABS model from western reserve Honda in mentor, Ohio. That bike retails for almost $16k and I got it for $11,400. Negotiated over the phone so I didn’t waste my time, and talked him down a bit. Another dealer near me was selling the same bike just a 2019 and it didn’t have ABS! For $14,000! Save your money and buy new old stock motorcycles!
Best advice I've seen so far!! My local dealership in Salt Lake has a Ninja 400 for $5600 MSRP, but there's a dealership in Las Vegas selling the same bike for $4900! And I would pay around $350 for shipping through uship! I'll be ready to buy in about a month, so we'll see how trying out this method works out
You are absolutely right about everything in your video! I used some of your techniques and bought in the winter few years ago and picked up new leftover bike 2019 Kawasaki z900rs cafe for 9200 plus tax, froze on the way home but well worth it!!
Having worked in the Car Business the best way to get a huge discount is by playing 3 dealers against one another online. Then call each one and you will get the best deal, always have a top dollar price that you are willing to pay. If you get push back find out what the bottom is, NEVER pay dealer FEES, they are just added profit, ie., Dealer Prep Fee, Doc Fee, Electronic Filing Fee those are all just added dealer profit. If you aren’t adverse to the prior year ie., a 2019 now... you will find a great deal because dealers pay Floor Plan which is interest on the motorcycle that they pay each month if not sold either within 60 or 90 days. You can get a great price.
CC is exactly correct. Winter time is the BEST time and Cycle trader is the motorcycle bible. That's how I got my local dealer to match the price on my current Reb 500 2019 I bought last year. The dude knew that I had trailer fee and all other expenses calculated and ready to get to Kentucky. So the guy's like screw it I'd rather have a local customer build a rapport with him etc. And for them it's the smart play in the long run. Services , future bike purchases etc.
Yeah often times, a dealer will sell a bike at a low profit or no profit just to get a new customer to build a relationship with and make money on servicing the bike or selling gear, etc. Sometimes they just want to get rid of old stock fast, especially in the winter.
@@CycleCruza Yep, if there smart they do. For example the next bike purchase I want to make is a Triumph Bonny 120 but the biggest draw back is guilt from such good service from my local Honda dealer.
@@CycleCruza Sure thing man!!! I got a ZX6r, I know what people say about starting on 600's but i can't afford much else. Where I live a 2000 R6 or R1 is about 3-5k
Been watching you since before I even began my riding career in 2015 brother I apologize for the super late sub! Learned a lot of things from you my good sir.
Good tips. Getting bikes or sports cars from places where they are impractical or are not popular is always good for saving $$$. I got my last sports car from a snowy mountain town near the Canadian border for 25% off sticker. It’s was a popular one and the current model year too. Same with dirtbikes, I try to get them from places and dealers where no one buys dirtbikes, lol.
You are the best CC! You release a couple videos of your deals going completely wrong and hrs back and forth with dealers to end up not getting the bikes and then make a video of how to buy a bike! You must tuck your balls into your socks! Lmao!!!
Talked shit about the WR450F sumo conversion but bought a YZ450FX lol. Glad you finally saw the light. I regret selling my WR. Learn to do some real wheelies!
Had me dying with the beans joke hahahahah. Thanks for the tips im actually in the market now for a bike but I think ima wait for the winter using your tips.
I bought my first a current bike from VA I live in NJ. It was New not left over ninja 650 for 5400 out the door. They are usually 7400 but that dealer had incentives used Cycle Trader to find them. Drove down there in a pickup and got it. I'll be doing the same thing next year when I get my ZX14R.
Awesome vid I'm a new rider was just recently out of dealership Winters coming up so I think I'll do the same by in the winter looking for a cafe racer hope I get one
CycleCruza I agree leftover models are the best deal and you don’t have to worry about how bad the bike was abused and ragged out I got 4,000$ off a 2 year old GSX-R 0 miles most private sellers was asking for 500$ to 1000 dollars more with 8,000 plus miles because they bought the current year model and took a hit.Granted I had to drive 2 hrs away to pick her up but in the long run was worth it
Watch 60minute car or something. Some Russian ish dude that worked for a big car dealership. Also gives real world straight shooter blunt as hell strats on buying. Applies to cars and trucks as well as bikes as well. You only negotiating on the internet or by phone is pro tip. Because they will literally drag your time out to get you to commit. I went to a dealership and what I did was, if I was in an office or area where they were dragging my tone out I’d literally have my pad on my lap and be calling other dealers asking if they could match or beat. And then Id they were still slow to come back id walk out “on the phone” even if I wasn’t and when I got stopped I’d say “this is my number for me to stay”. And let the negotiations begin, after often times they say they won’t negotiate
I use the same technique for cars on Autotrader. My record was when I traveled to North Carolina for a new Mustang GT, I live in Fla. Saved thousands. Great minds think alike..lol
So when you get deals on bikes out of your state. How do you go about knowing how that particular bike will fit you? I am gonna try your method out because I have been wanting to get my hands on the newer yamaha r1's.
Not true, often times you can get left-over new bikes at a dealer for nearly the same cost as what people are selling their used bikes on craigslist for. When I wanted a cbr1000rr back in 2014, I bought my left-over new 2012 cbr1000rr for $8,995 out in PA from a Honda dealer, private party sellers in CL wanted 12k at the cheapest for the same bike used and many sellers were trying to sell their old 2008 cbr1000rr with mods for over 10k! I'll take leftover new for a cheaper price or even the same price any day!. There are rebates at dealers on old stock during the winter, you can save a lot. Btw, I bought my former 17' Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 factory mint with 700 miles from an Aprilia dealer for 13k with a factory warranty, private parties on Craigslist wanted 14k for their bike with more miles. Don't always assume private party sellers are cheaper. Also, good luck suing a private party if you get a shit bike, a dealer's rep is on the line, so they will be more inclined to sell you a good used bike and with a left-over new bike you have nothing to worry about.
CycleCruza I agree leftover models are the best deal and you don’t have to worry about how bad the bike was abused and ragged out I got 4,000$ off a 2 year old GSX-R 0 miles most private sellers was asking for 500$ to 1000 dollars more with 8,000 plus miles because they bought the current year model and took a hit.Granted I had to drive 2 hrs away to pick her up but in the long run was worth it
If you know your shit and legal things to look for that can work. BUT if you been burned few times thinking you knew I'm headed to a dealer! Lol new is just that, but shop dealers over fees etc! New older bikes is a great deal some cases. Thanks
@@chincemagnet my best friend told me about the savings on a older but NEW bike and it can be drastic savings! I can get a new 19,, 636 for7999. I believe with abs to boot! But I'm not that exp. Enough for that YET! Lol
I’ve used u ship before too. The fish weren’t biting so for 2 weeks the offer stood. Then I raised the price. Cost me 350 from NY to PA. If I would have had my own truck I just would have picked it up. I probably should have just rented a truck for the day lol.
I just sold my Aprilia a while ago and got my buyer shipping deal for $350 from here in Cleveland, Ohio to Houston TX using UShip. You did something wrong, that shipping deal you got should not have cost you more than $200 max.
CycleCruza Yea I don’t know my man. I’d use it again for sure. I set the bid low and no one wanted to accept for so long. I got impatient and went up. Maybe that’s where I went wrong. the only reason I didn’t grab the bike myself is because of no truck and no time to lend to picking it up really.
@@ridewherever How does that work? Do you buy the bike online from another state first then let the dealership hold the bike for you while you start bidding in Uship. So you just tell the dealership you are going to use uship and they cool with that?
MisterSal Yep pretty much. The dealership i bought it from uses Uship anyways. So they would have done it for me but I told them I would control pick up and delivery using Uship.
Hi, my first time buying a bike out of state. Every thing makes me sketch since I’m not in person doing the deal. I’m on cycle trader looking for an Yamaha R6. I live out in Hawaii so having a bike shipped here could be an issue. Any tips on what to do? And what not to do?
Manufacturers have rebates so check as dealer may keep it. Dealers always make money with holdbacks and kickbacks. I usually buy in California or Arizona and ship to Hawaii. Plus Hawaii sales tax is only 4%. CycleTrader is a real good source!
In the Winter tome you can probably get a really good deal on a 2019 Yamaha Vmax because in general people don’t buy that bike they are either scared of it or they get a Ducati but you should really give that motorcycle a shot
I wouldn't rule out local sales, my friend just got a 2019 Honda Grom with only 1,050 miles on it, for $2300, out the door for a brand new one it's $3800 or so
thanks for the info dude owned 7 motorcycles but all were well used cheap bikes want a new bike but with least amount of hassle i dont mind paying whats fair but dont want to get shafted
How do you line up shipping with a private seller? Been searching for a new bike for a while but there is nothing remotely decent in my area. The best prices are from private sellers but Im sketched out on trusting them to actually ship it to me if I pay for the shipping. They could just take my money and run. Is there a way to hold a seller accountable if they dont turn over the bike to the shipper?
Hes right. Its how I buy my bikes. I bought a 2020 raven black r6 brand new for 11.6k because I did my research. It also matters if the dealerships has its machines leased by manufacturer or if the dealerships buys their stock up front. Almost always cheaper to get one from a dealership that leases.
Hey CycleCruza would you consider making a video talking about dealership fees? I get tax, title and licensing vary state by state, but things like shipping (from country of manufacture to the dealer), setup, etc etc? I went into a Yamaha dealer today and long story short, was quoted around $10k for a 2020 MT-07 MSRP at $7499. Is that high, or does that sound about right for an OTD price from a dealer? P.S. this is in Texas
Youre not getting away from tax, title and licensing. Thats a set rate from your state. But they will try to charge you shipment, crating, servicing, paperwork fees, etc. Thats where they make their money, next to financing and warrantees. Thats why he talks about out the door price bc all that is included in the otd price.
I always get my financing ready ahead of time and then research what the bike I want is selling for at all the dealerships across the state and then I go in with cash in hand and tell them exactly what I'll give them for the bike. I don't lowball them but I go about $500-$1000 lower than their sticker. If they come back and say they can't sell for what i'm asking but can sell for a few hundred $ more I say that i'm getting paid again in two weeks and i'll be back, so far they've never let me leave and end up giving me the bike for the price I told them I was willing to pay cash for that day. When they know you've got cash ready to drop they don't want you to wait two weeks because chances are youll get it somewhere else for a few hundred dollars cheaper during that time. I'd never finance a bike through the dealer, that's playing into their hands and you'll end up paying sticker price + dealer fees / set up fees / unboxing fees etc
Idk bud, if you got a set price and go in with cash, that’s less time for them to say no or a chance for the manager to say we’re not doing it. Never hurts to call but sometimes they tell you what you want to hear just to get you down there, then the game changes. Hit them hard from the blind side, Just my experience
Why even call. When I bought my current bike I knew that was what I wanted, So scatter e-mailed every dealer in like a 200 mile radius who had one in stock, Saying here is what I will pay for it. Some didn't even respond, some counter offered and a couple said yea we can do that. Went with the closest one who was 80 miles away. Yea you need to do your research so your offer isn't totally absurd and I agree leftover (mine was a two year) is the way to go with a new bike.
I kinda agree, but if you don't care about waiting for the bike and you got cash. Me, I didn't want to wait and look all over the country and deal with shipping across the country etc and buying a bike sight unseen in person. I visited my local dealer, looked at the couple of bikes I was interested in and finally got my 2019 Ninja 650, brand new, 1 mile on ut. These guys were not pushy and we're helpful actually. Kawasaki took off $1000 for the promo that wasn't offered when I first started looking... Plus, the dealer took off a couple hundred more and also waived the $300 in prep and destination fees. So $6800 plus tax I was very happy with. This is the ABS model in Candy Steel Furnace Orange and Metallic Spark Black. There's not a lot of markup on the smaller cheaper bikes so I was glad to get that deal. I had to finance most of it too. I didn't have the luxury of offering all cash. There are many ppl that got my same bike and paid like $8k. I did add the additional 4 yrs of warranty for$500. If your after a bike that's 15k-25k, sure, you got more wiggle room and might even find a private person too with buyers remorse and now just wants to sell it for what they can get, so that cash in hand might work wonders 😆😂👍
Dude - that cracked me up 'all these cheap skates calling to get the best deal!' Include me man - love getting a good deal - the hunt is part of the fun! Thanks for sharing! EW :)
Im concerned with having a bike shipped and for whatever reason im not happy with it or the dealer left out problems with it in their description....what then?
The bike I'm looking at there isn't a dealership in ohio that will allow me to test ride. (Kawasaki zh2 ). Only one dealer in the entire state that has one. Pony powersports westerville
Well....it's a downright shame some new bikes I'm looking at replacing my current bike with are all new revised models for this year. I may have to hold off on upgrading until next year. =/
This dealership my dad bought an ATV from offered to sell me a 2020 DRZ400S out the door for $7,500 in NY including registration and everything. They would order me one brand new because they loved my father. Lol The price before they knew who my father was, was over $8,000. They offered me a 2018 CRF250L for like $4,400 out the door with 900 miles on it. The owner knew my father, my father use to buy them gifts and bring then venison jerky hunting season. The CRF was over $5200 out the door before they realized who I was lol.
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@@shockadellick at this point I'm debating it lol
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Gotta give you credit for the amount of effort you put in to this.
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I wouldn't say that "cash is king." What I would say is king is when you mention, "I will buy the bike today if we can agree on price." I have gotten really good deals on motorcycles and cars, but it was my willingness to close the deal immediately that got me the price that I wanted. Dealers and private sellers don't want people that are constantly coming around and just "kicking the tires."
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If you mentioned you are paying cash before walking into the finance office, you did not get the rock bottom price 100% guaranteed. I've been in the car business for years. Started at sales, then internet, the finance, then finance director, then sales manager, the GSM. Got out to finish my EE and became an Engineer to spend more time with the family. I absolutely guarantee you left more money on the table than on you should have
I always mention cash and I always get the best deal. Like I said in the video, the dealer would rather you finance BUT in the winter the dealer just wants to move old stock fast, even if they only break even. Often times there is a rebate available in the winter as well.
@@CycleCruza yeah I made cash buyers think that too.
I hope this works for me!
@@OGPokey151 what should you say to get the bottom price then?
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Don't say anything about cash or financing. If sales asks, tell them you want to negotiate price first, payment second.
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I bought my 13 monster doing exactly what you do! I had it shipped. Sight unseen except for pics and vids. Dealer was reputable. So much easier than dealing with sales people. Bought it directly from the manager.
I live in Hawaii. They add $3000 to MSRP for convenience. I buy on the mainland and even with shipping still save thousands but it takes 4 weeks before you receive .
As the general manager for a motorcycle shop, this guy is 100% correct. Except for one major point. Always finance a motorcycle, then pay it off on the first month if you have the cash. We all get kickbacks, and they’re worth it, even in the winter time to us. We’ll give you a better deal.
I don't mess with any debt. Also, banks will charge an early pay-off fee if you try to pay the loan off after the first month. Banks have a bag of tricks.
@@CycleCruza facts haha, no deal just go to a different dealer. we aint shopping for a limited edition Enzo.
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Good tips ! I am lucky enough to have a local shop that is great to work with . Salesmen are open and upfront , good service and best of all the owner is a friend !
Just bought one with your advise. It's amazing the luck you can have with Uship/ shipping when you can catch a transport who happens to be coming to your area. This is the best time to buy 2020 and I am thinking about buying another.Thanks.
This technique does work. I just bought a brand new 2017 Honda cbr 1000 rr ABS model from western reserve Honda in mentor, Ohio. That bike retails for almost $16k and I got it for $11,400. Negotiated over the phone so I didn’t waste my time, and talked him down a bit. Another dealer near me was selling the same bike just a 2019 and it didn’t have ABS! For $14,000! Save your money and buy new old stock motorcycles!
Nice! You got a sick deal!
Bullshit.
@@Lex-Rex there are 2017-2018 cbr1000rr nationwide for 9,999 check the site he said... too true
It's tuff, and there only so much you can do when you want to buy local. I usually look for marked down one or two year old leftovers.
Best advice I've seen so far!! My local dealership in Salt Lake has a Ninja 400 for $5600 MSRP, but there's a dealership in Las Vegas selling the same bike for $4900! And I would pay around $350 for shipping through uship!
I'll be ready to buy in about a month, so we'll see how trying out this method works out
Thanks Cyclecruza I’m looking for a new Ducati Monster 821 I’m gonna use these methods. Keep up the great content brother 🤙
Dealer: "So you ever going to buy anything, buddy?"
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Yes he is ready to buy just waiting for you to tell him what your Credit Card Numbers are.. and the secret code expiration date..
@eternal
If I heard CC wanted to buy a bike from me... It would be weeks of looking all the little scratches around the bike. Not worth it 😄
Yep 👍 works every time during the winter I got me a left over new MT 09 and saved $500 which is better than not saving anything!👍
You are absolutely right about everything in your video! I used some of your techniques and bought in the winter few years ago and picked up new leftover bike 2019 Kawasaki z900rs cafe for 9200 plus tax, froze on the way home but well worth it!!
As always CC, solid information. Thanks
Thanks for viewing!
GP Motorcycles, San Diego, offer great deals over the phone! No hassles and easy shipping.
Having worked in the Car Business the best way to get a huge discount is by playing 3 dealers against one another online. Then call each one and you will get the best deal, always have a top dollar price that you are willing to pay. If you get push back find out what the bottom is, NEVER pay dealer FEES, they are just added profit, ie., Dealer Prep Fee, Doc Fee, Electronic Filing Fee those are all just added dealer profit. If you aren’t adverse to the prior year ie., a 2019 now... you will find a great deal because dealers pay Floor Plan which is interest on the motorcycle that they pay each month if not sold either within 60 or 90 days. You can get a great price.
CC is exactly correct. Winter time is the BEST time and Cycle trader is the motorcycle bible. That's how I got my local dealer to match the price on my current Reb 500 2019 I bought last year. The dude knew that I had trailer fee and all other expenses calculated and ready to get to Kentucky. So the guy's like screw it I'd rather have a local customer build a rapport with him etc. And for them it's the smart play in the long run. Services , future bike purchases etc.
Yeah often times, a dealer will sell a bike at a low profit or no profit just to get a new customer to build a relationship with and make money on servicing the bike or selling gear, etc. Sometimes they just want to get rid of old stock fast, especially in the winter.
@@CycleCruza Yep, if there smart they do. For example the next bike purchase I want to make is a Triumph Bonny 120 but the biggest draw back is guilt from such good service from my local Honda dealer.
Yo!!! CycleCruza man, I FINALLY got my first bike!!!!!!😆😆😆😆😆
Nice! Congrats! Ride defensively and stay safe!
@@CycleCruza
Sure thing man!!!
I got a ZX6r, I know what people say about starting on 600's but i can't afford much else. Where I live a 2000 R6 or R1 is about 3-5k
@@Sierra-or9fx i started on a 600 too but a 90s one
@@spar8334
Cool!!! Which one?
@@Sierra-or9fx 91 fzr600
Thx for sharing. Bought 2 bikes in January and got good deals over the phone. Video request - can you do a “day in the life of CycleCruza “ video?
Nice!
Now you got me really debating on buying a new bike. Preciate the info.
great tips for not wasting time! Especially if you know what you want. Glad to have ur experience.
Love this video man lmaoo "got all these cheapskates out here looking for a good deal" lmaoo
Been watching you since before I even began my riding career in 2015 brother I apologize for the super late sub! Learned a lot of things from you my good sir.
Great tips. Love it.
Thanks Cruza, I really want to get a new bike this year
This is very helpful, thank you very much!!
Awesome man. I learned a lot today
Thanks for the Uship information. I was stuck on the eastcoast wondering how I could get the bike shipped.
Good tips. Getting bikes or sports cars from places where they are impractical or are not popular is always good for saving $$$. I got my last sports car from a snowy mountain town near the Canadian border for 25% off sticker. It’s was a popular one and the current model year too. Same with dirtbikes, I try to get them from places and dealers where no one buys dirtbikes, lol.
Yep, that's how I got that sick deal on that XDiavel S out in Idaho. I wish I would have kept that bike, fun bike.
That van, motorcycle combo is SIIICCKKK! The van is like a garage for your motorcycle that you can sleep in and drive! Never thought of that!
You are the best CC! You release a couple videos of your deals going completely wrong and hrs back and forth with dealers to end up not getting the bikes and then make a video of how to buy a bike! You must tuck your balls into your socks! Lmao!!!
Talked shit about the WR450F sumo conversion but bought a YZ450FX lol. Glad you finally saw the light. I regret selling my WR. Learn to do some real wheelies!
Had me dying with the beans joke hahahahah. Thanks for the tips im actually in the market now for a bike but I think ima wait for the winter using your tips.
"The Art of the Sick Deal" might be a better title
Great video man 👍
I bought my first a current bike from VA I live in NJ. It was New not left over ninja 650 for 5400 out the door. They are usually 7400 but that dealer had incentives used Cycle Trader to find them. Drove down there in a pickup and got it.
I'll be doing the same thing next year when I get my ZX14R.
Awesome vid I'm a new rider was just recently out of dealership Winters coming up so I think I'll do the same by in the winter looking for a cafe racer hope I get one
This channel is a hidden gem
CycleCruza I agree leftover models are the best deal and you don’t have to worry about how bad the bike was abused and ragged out I got 4,000$ off a 2 year old GSX-R 0 miles most private sellers was asking for 500$ to 1000 dollars more with 8,000 plus miles because they bought the current year model and took a hit.Granted I had to drive 2 hrs away to pick her up but in the long run was worth it
How about getting a track r6 and something more laidback for the streets CC?
CC how do you search to find left over motorcycles at dealerships?
Watch 60minute car or something. Some Russian ish dude that worked for a big car dealership. Also gives real world straight shooter blunt as hell strats on buying. Applies to cars and trucks as well as bikes as well.
You only negotiating on the internet or by phone is pro tip. Because they will literally drag your time out to get you to commit.
I went to a dealership and what I did was, if I was in an office or area where they were dragging my tone out I’d literally have my pad on my lap and be calling other dealers asking if they could match or beat. And then Id they were still slow to come back id walk out “on the phone” even if I wasn’t and when I got stopped I’d say “this is my number for me to stay”. And let the negotiations begin, after often times they say they won’t negotiate
I use the same technique for cars on Autotrader. My record was when I traveled to North Carolina for a new Mustang GT, I live in Fla. Saved thousands. Great minds think alike..lol
AYYOOO GOOD LOOKS MY GUY. Telling it how it is for real. 💪🏼
So when you get deals on bikes out of your state. How do you go about knowing how that particular bike will fit you? I am gonna try your method out because I have been wanting to get my hands on the newer yamaha r1's.
How to get a motorcycle for the lowest price? Don't buy from a dealer lol. Privately owned and cash works
Not true, often times you can get left-over new bikes at a dealer for nearly the same cost as what people are selling their used bikes on craigslist for. When I wanted a cbr1000rr back in 2014, I bought my left-over new 2012 cbr1000rr for $8,995 out in PA from a Honda dealer, private party sellers in CL wanted 12k at the cheapest for the same bike used and many sellers were trying to sell their old 2008 cbr1000rr with mods for over 10k! I'll take leftover new for a cheaper price or even the same price any day!. There are rebates at dealers on old stock during the winter, you can save a lot. Btw, I bought my former 17' Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 factory mint with 700 miles from an Aprilia dealer for 13k with a factory warranty, private parties on Craigslist wanted 14k for their bike with more miles. Don't always assume private party sellers are cheaper. Also, good luck suing a private party if you get a shit bike, a dealer's rep is on the line, so they will be more inclined to sell you a good used bike and with a left-over new bike you have nothing to worry about.
CycleCruza I agree leftover models are the best deal and you don’t have to worry about how bad the bike was abused and ragged out I got 4,000$ off a 2 year old GSX-R 0 miles most private sellers was asking for 500$ to 1000 dollars more with 8,000 plus miles because they bought the current year model and took a hit.Granted I had to drive 2 hrs away to pick her up but in the long run was worth it
If you know your shit and legal things to look for that can work. BUT if you been burned few times thinking you knew I'm headed to a dealer! Lol new is just that, but shop dealers over fees etc! New older bikes is a great deal some cases. Thanks
CycleCruza I only buy left overs, saved on average $2000, which isn’t too bad for a $7k-$9k MSRP
@@chincemagnet my best friend told me about the savings on a older but NEW bike and it can be drastic savings! I can get a new 19,, 636 for7999. I believe with abs to boot! But I'm not that exp. Enough for that YET! Lol
I think that CBR1000RR has the best sound I’ve ever heard from a motorcycle.
I’ve used u ship before too. The fish weren’t biting so for 2 weeks the offer stood. Then I raised the price. Cost me 350 from NY to PA.
If I would have had my own truck I just would have picked it up. I probably should have just rented a truck for the day lol.
I just sold my Aprilia a while ago and got my buyer shipping deal for $350 from here in Cleveland, Ohio to Houston TX using UShip. You did something wrong, that shipping deal you got should not have cost you more than $200 max.
CycleCruza
Yea I don’t know my man. I’d use it again for sure. I set the bid low and no one wanted to accept for so long. I got impatient and went up. Maybe that’s where I went wrong.
the only reason I didn’t grab the bike myself is because of no truck and no time to lend to picking it up really.
@@ridewherever How does that work? Do you buy the bike online from another state first then let the dealership hold the bike for you while you start bidding in Uship. So you just tell the dealership you are going to use uship and they cool with that?
MisterSal
Yep pretty much. The dealership i bought it from uses Uship anyways. So they would have done it for me but I told them I would control pick up and delivery using Uship.
@@ridewherever Thanks I always wondered about this.
Good info. Thanks! Wheelies in the burbs...not so good.
Thank you!
How do you avoid or negotiate those 1k fees out of the deal?
There’s always a good deal in the winter time 😂😂😂🤣🤣
Hi, my first time buying a bike out of state. Every thing makes me sketch since I’m not in person doing the deal. I’m on cycle trader looking for an Yamaha R6. I live out in Hawaii so having a bike shipped here could be an issue. Any tips on what to do? And what not to do?
Hey CycleCruza could you give a link to where u got your cheap farings for the CBR 1000 rr.
Monsterfairings.com, tell them cyclecruza sent you and will get a deal.
Manufacturers have rebates so check as dealer may keep it. Dealers always make money with holdbacks and kickbacks. I usually buy in California or Arizona and ship to Hawaii. Plus Hawaii sales tax is only 4%. CycleTrader is a real good source!
Thank you
CC=CycleCheapa! Thanks CC!
lol Hey why waste money? That extra money could go towards your next sick bike!
In the Winter tome you can probably get a really good deal on a 2019 Yamaha Vmax because in general people don’t buy that bike they are either scared of it or they get a Ducati but you should really give that motorcycle a shot
I wouldn't rule out local sales, my friend just got a 2019 Honda Grom with only 1,050 miles on it, for $2300, out the door for a brand new one it's $3800 or so
thanks for the info dude owned 7 motorcycles but all were well used cheap bikes want a new bike but with least amount of hassle i dont mind paying whats fair but dont want to get shafted
Thumbnail got me..get a damn zx10 that krt is clean and it match your vest
How do you line up shipping with a private seller? Been searching for a new bike for a while but there is nothing remotely decent in my area. The best prices are from private sellers but Im sketched out on trusting them to actually ship it to me if I pay for the shipping. They could just take my money and run. Is there a way to hold a seller accountable if they dont turn over the bike to the shipper?
When are you getting a new bike bro
How do you deal with dealer markup and bike prep fees. I found msrp plus tax/lic and dealer says that a great deal ( 2019 honda 250 crf rally). Is it?
never pay msrp
How did you learn to do wheelies?
Shoutout from Idaho! What dealer did you go to.?
Hes right. Its how I buy my bikes. I bought a 2020 raven black r6 brand new for 11.6k because I did my research. It also matters if the dealerships has its machines leased by manufacturer or if the dealerships buys their stock up front. Almost always cheaper to get one from a dealership that leases.
where do you get those badass army pants brother? 🔥🔥🔥
Hey CycleCruza would you consider making a video talking about dealership fees? I get tax, title and licensing vary state by state, but things like shipping (from country of manufacture to the dealer), setup, etc etc? I went into a Yamaha dealer today and long story short, was quoted around $10k for a 2020 MT-07 MSRP at $7499. Is that high, or does that sound about right for an OTD price from a dealer? P.S. this is in Texas
Youre not getting away from tax, title and licensing. Thats a set rate from your state. But they will try to charge you shipment, crating, servicing, paperwork fees, etc. Thats where they make their money, next to financing and warrantees. Thats why he talks about out the door price bc all that is included in the otd price.
Best video on getting the best deal.
What’s that air suit you’re wearing is that a safety thing
It is what it is 👌🏻
How much should I be spending on setup fees etc that they tack on
I always get my financing ready ahead of time and then research what the bike I want is selling for at all the dealerships across the state and then I go in with cash in hand and tell them exactly what I'll give them for the bike. I don't lowball them but I go about $500-$1000 lower than their sticker. If they come back and say they can't sell for what i'm asking but can sell for a few hundred $ more I say that i'm getting paid again in two weeks and i'll be back, so far they've never let me leave and end up giving me the bike for the price I told them I was willing to pay cash for that day. When they know you've got cash ready to drop they don't want you to wait two weeks because chances are youll get it somewhere else for a few hundred dollars cheaper during that time. I'd never finance a bike through the dealer, that's playing into their hands and you'll end up paying sticker price + dealer fees / set up fees / unboxing fees etc
What if I can't afford a 10K bike with cash. I'd rather finance.
@@theenzoferrari458 I always got a personal loan before going to the dealership with the cash from the loan
@@theenzoferrari458 when you finance your getting slapped around like Johnny Depp did his wife…
@@itwaswritten804 *Will Smith noises*
im trying to buy a ktm 790 adv but these dealers all want shiping fees like 600$ so agrivating any advice im paying cash
Idk bud, if you got a set price and go in with cash, that’s less time for them to say no or a chance for the manager to say we’re not doing it. Never hurts to call but sometimes they tell you what you want to hear just to get you down there, then the game changes. Hit them hard from the blind side, Just my experience
The internet makes it easy to shop the whole nation
Romney cycle center in West Virginia has a 2017 busa $10500 brand new
Yeah great deals to be had in the winter.
Why even call. When I bought my current bike I knew that was what I wanted, So scatter e-mailed every dealer in like a 200 mile radius who had one in stock, Saying here is what I will pay for it. Some didn't even respond, some counter offered and a couple said yea we can do that. Went with the closest one who was 80 miles away. Yea you need to do your research so your offer isn't totally absurd and I agree leftover (mine was a two year) is the way to go with a new bike.
I kinda agree, but if you don't care about waiting for the bike and you got cash. Me, I didn't want to wait and look all over the country and deal with shipping across the country etc and buying a bike sight unseen in person.
I visited my local dealer, looked at the couple of bikes I was interested in and finally got my 2019 Ninja 650, brand new, 1 mile on ut. These guys were not pushy and we're helpful actually.
Kawasaki took off $1000 for the promo that wasn't offered when I first started looking... Plus, the dealer took off a couple hundred more and also waived the $300 in prep and destination fees. So $6800 plus tax I was very happy with. This is the ABS model in Candy Steel Furnace Orange and Metallic Spark Black. There's not a lot of markup on the smaller cheaper bikes so I was glad to get that deal. I had to finance most of it too. I didn't have the luxury of offering all cash. There are many ppl that got my same bike and paid like $8k. I did add the additional 4 yrs of warranty for$500.
If your after a bike that's 15k-25k, sure, you got more wiggle room and might even find a private person too with buyers remorse and now just wants to sell it for what they can get, so that cash in hand might work wonders 😆😂👍
How do you afford the insurance? I found that the insurance costs more than the bike itself sometimes.
Dude - that cracked me up 'all these cheap skates calling to get the best deal!' Include me man - love getting a good deal - the hunt is part of the fun! Thanks for sharing! EW :)
Im concerned with having a bike shipped and for whatever reason im not happy with it or the dealer left out problems with it in their description....what then?
The bike I'm looking at there isn't a dealership in ohio that will allow me to test ride. (Kawasaki zh2 ). Only one dealer in the entire state that has one. Pony powersports westerville
Well....it's a downright shame some new bikes I'm looking at replacing my current bike with are all new revised models for this year. I may have to hold off on upgrading until next year. =/
This dealership my dad bought an ATV from offered to sell me a 2020 DRZ400S out the door for $7,500 in NY including registration and everything. They would order me one brand new because they loved my father. Lol The price before they knew who my father was, was over $8,000. They offered me a 2018 CRF250L for like $4,400 out the door with 900 miles on it. The owner knew my father, my father use to buy them gifts and bring then venison jerky hunting season. The CRF was over $5200 out the door before they realized who I was lol.
Is fuel injected more expensive to manufacture than carbureted ?
Yes
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