pochitas question in their fight sums it up perfectly, in saying she wouldnt allow a world where bad movies exist, she shows she doesnt understand that tragedy is an essential part of life, as said by kobeni, so as dadgamer said, fujimoto be cooking
The thing with Makima is there is an underlying question: "To what degree is Makima a slave to her own nature?" As a devil, they may all inherently be evil to some degree. Barring a few notable examples, they all seem to not care that much about humans, especially in the grand scheme of things. Makima, and by extension Nayuta (her reincarnation), seem to have some caring aspects about them. When she tells Kishibe her plan is to make a safer world by eliminating Death, Famine, and War, the inverse is true. What if she was telling the TRUTH? That completely redefines her character. Immediately following Makima's defeat, Kishibe asks Denji to take care of Nayuta. Saying that, "If the government gets her, she may end up exactly as Makima." Add into the fact we don't know how old the Control Devil was in it's Makima incarnation, but on two separate occasions she refers to her government overseers as scary (train scene), or people necessary evils like her have to answer to (the yakuza leader scene). Many people think it's highly likely she was raised by the government, both on account of Kishibe's wording and the fact she clearly feels like she has to be careful around the Japanese goverment. Indirect evidence to this is how Nayuta is almost a completely different character. Yes, she still mind controls some of her classmates, there is the devil nature, but she isn't orchestrating Machiavellian-tier plans like Makima was. Why? Because she isn't being raised to be a tool by a power-hungry entity like the government. She is being raised in a seemingly entirely loving relationship by Denji. TLDR, Nature vs. nuture is a question inherently central to Makima's/Nayuta's character. Fujimoto cooks.
I think Makima is ultimately like a dog chasing a car; when and if she ever gets what she wants, which is total control over everyone in the world, she wouldn’t really know what to do with it. While she finds humans’ infatuation with her useful, she understands that they only like her because they are being controlled by her, and wouldn’t care at all if it weren’t for that. And so her deepest subconscious desire to be loved as an equal is, in her mind, impossible. So she plans to do what an all-powerful human would do, which is try and create a new world order. And much like an egomaniacal human, the irony of her having to enslave all of humanity and murder millions of innocent people to supposedly benefit them is completely lost on her.
I'll never forget this one chick who cosplayed as Makima, and never actually read or watched CSM. Then she found out what Makima did, and my God it was hilarious.
@@Kongongongg Really? I dont really care. Cosplay is all about replicating the image of a character. Dont need to act like them. And I'm a *major* chainsawman fan, probably my new favorite manga in the past decade. People just like how a character looks, sees the sweeping popularity, and decides that's what they want to appear as.
Denji actually couldn’t have trick her. She had birds which should have alarm her about Denji much earlier But Fujomoto said nah, we don’t do constant writing here Also she wouldn’t just sitting on the ground. At minimum she would have starts walking. Or at least waiting for ambush. Because she knew about heart-trick (she commented about it when Pochita did comeback on Earth from space) She also should have known that something isn’t right here. She lost Pochita for couple hours or even day after Kishibe hide Denji. And suddenly Pochita appears at graveyard? C’mon Conquest Devil isn’t this dumb.
my fav part is right before she dies where csm (actually pochita) asks her if bad movies would exist in her perfect world & she has a moment of “why are you still denji” its soooo telling bc she was so blind she couldnt fathom her hero was actually more grounded in reality than her
I think the neat part is how despite her immense cruelty, inteligence etc she is kind of just a child or a perosn who never properly grew up At its heart her desire was very childish. She never properly learnt to just...live.
@@Scoonertuna she wanted to get rid of what made it bad but that included so many things including death. her “perfect” world would just be ultimate control including the lil things that make it unique
What's ironic is that later on (spoilers if you haven't read the manga) her reincarnated self cared only for Denji and nobody else. She even willingly put herself in harm's way to save him.
Before their final battle, Denji asks Makima if bad movies will still exist in the new world she intends to create, and she responds by saying the world would be better off without them. While fans have their own interpretation of the real meaning behind this conversation, it’s still a great indicator of how far Makima is willing to abuse Pochita’s power. While most people go out their way to avoid watching bad movies, they’re ultimately harmless in the grand scale of life’s problems. Makima saying she would erase them shows she wouldn’t stop until even the smallest imperfection is removed from her idea of humanity. It really would’ve been the worst kind of peace.
@@Kongongonggerasing the concept of bad movies also erases the concept of good movies, since its no longer a good movie, its just a movie. Its like listening to an amazing song over and over until its no longer that amazing song, its just another one in your playlist.
@@Kongongongg a lot of ppl enjoy or learn from bad movies. erasing them would be erasing those positive experiences. also while there are def movies that can be objectively bad/low-quality, there's no way of deciding which movies are good or bad definitively. is every movie w/ any kind of flaw bad? bc that applies to basically every movie in existence--even ghibli films have animation errors. and u might say "she said she'd erase bad movies, not movies w/ any kind of flaw whatsoever", but as the original comment said it's a slippery slope to go down
From now on, you’re in my care, Denji. I expect “yes” or “woof” for answers. I don’t need a dog that says “no.” -Makima. All you need to know about one of the most manipulative and abusive characters in recent memory. Poor denji
Said when Denji was hungry and tasting a hot bowl of udon noodles for the first time of his life, and then informing him that as a human-devil hybrid he had no human rights, and would be killed if he ever tried to quit his job as a devil hunter. “Woof!” - Denji
@@inferiorinferno8859 I mean, we know almost nothing about Jafar or Scar's backstories, and he still did a video on them, so I don't see why he shouldn't cover Ursula. Not every villain has to have an intricate backstory to be interesting.
Makima is a scarily accurate portrayal of Female-on-male abuse. Although we see a lot of abusers who are men, we don’t see a lot of them who are women, when it comes to depictions in stories that is. For some reason knowing that someone else may have experienced this trauma in the same way I did really helped me emotionally which is why I’ve bonded to this story so much
The best example of this, at least in manga, is the mother from Chi no Wadachi. What she put her son through was beyond disturbing. I haven't even finished the manga yet because it's so depressing.
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot You need to have a heart of stone to stomach that manga chapter by chapter. The story was incredibly slow when it came to progression. But if you consider how an incredibly huge amount of real children are being treated that way in asian society even now, it pretty much puts you in their shoes and gets you to appreciate the story in the best/worst way possible.
Yeah, she's basically the devil in human form. Which is much more terrifying than the other three. Well, I know we haven't seen much of the other 3 but currently
Famine isn't really taking the spot of villain rn so it's unfair to say how much of a threat she really is. War is almost a gag character due to be so weak. Death is probaly the only one who stands a candle of a chance to be held in a similar position to Makima, and yet i doubt she will be as much of a threat as her due to how personal Makima's actions were for the MC and for the reader.
@@frog6054She only did that to make Chainsaw man and War more stronger to fight death since War was essentially forgotten and how CSM was seen as good in the public eye thus making him weak.
Makima is such a win for women. We finally have a girl in the big leagues of evil anime characters. Like in the past couple years I’ve seen her in lineups with Griffith and Light and even Johan. She’s a trailblazer.
This is some crazy timing, seeing as I just rewatched Chainsaw Man last night. What an amazing villain. I'm disturbed by how many people she's manipulated in the story AND in the fanbase.
I kinda see her as both a villain and a friend for some reason I know she is manipulative but we have yet to discover her true goals so...still waiting for when we know what she really has in mind for our boy
What’s very ironic about Makima is all she wanted in the end was an equal and a family of some form of that connection and all she had experienced had brought her to the conclusions and actions that she took combined with her image diesire to control all around her, she never could find an “equal” even her own sisters. But if you look at the next control devil Nayuta, who found out makima’s desires and wanted to replicate them, had everything she wanted from Denji. She turned out as an actual functioning member of society.
Makima is literally one of the best psychopath type villains in fiction in my opinion. Yeah, she's a literal demon/devil, but its still really well done. She has no conscience whatsoever, is an expert manipulator that can understand and manipulate people's emotions and cares about nothing outside of her own ambitions/wants. However, this inhumanity , as much as it was a strength, was ultimately her undoing. She only cared about The Chainsaw Devil/Pochita and felt that Denji himself was so base and so far beneath her that she never truly understood him, which ultimately allowed him to get the drop on her and even "permanently" kill her.
Nah, it was asspulls and bad writing that killed her. Anyway her status as manipulative genius is overrated because you don’t need to manipulate people who are under your command and who can’t do anything about their status. This is not a manipulation
people like her tend to not view anyone other them themselves as superior Makima would have never recognized denji no matter how much he loved her she couldn't understand or want to understand she had given into her nature too much. she couldn't help herself. sad really but makima was messed up cause she never views anyone as a equal and she has zero conscience. she lacks humanity the ability to feel and understand emotions she can fake them so perfectly. she could have had what she regardless she if just tried to understand denji all she cared about was chainsaw man not denji. but i am glad her reincarnation is is being shown to have more humanity denji promised makima that he would give all the love she didn't have in her previous.
@@Kongongongg Did you...even read the manga? All of these comments not only are grammatically incorrect, but make no sense at all. It hurts just trying to grasp whatever planetary reach you're attempting to get right now.
3:22 Actually, we know that devils have to die in Hell to be reborn in the human realm. Thats the reason why the strongest Devils are stated to live in hell and why Primal Devils dont leave the confines of Hell, because theyve never once expierenced death.
I'm glad I found this comment. I'll just add on by saying that we know this due to Angel Devil's exposition in chapter 53 We also know that the devils that represent primal fears never experience death from chapter 64
@@imjustherefortehlulz Yeah, also technically even a 100% full power Gun Devil is nothing to the average Devil in Hell. As the only reason it even appeared during the Terror attack in America, was because it was already defeated in Hell. All the powerful or more powerful fears that arent Primal Devils, such as the Gun Devil dont appear all the time due to their power. Also, then fact that Pochita and Primal Devils can travel across Hell in under a few minutes is insane, as there are numerous doors. Yet one door like the door leading to the human realm, can hold universe-sized spaces. So its basically a multiverse onto itself, implying Devils are an eldritch horror that specialized in hunting humans and that are bound to concepts and empowered by them. Even christianity is a big deal and Horsemen of the Apocalpyse and the Angels like Power and Princi (that are reference to castes of Angels like Principality and the Powers) exist. And the fact that in Part 2 Adam and Eve were mentioned, but then got cut off means that there might be more behind why Devils exist.
Makima is basically a young devil that wanted actual affection/love from something she could never control do to the environment she was raised in and saw chainsaw man as the only being to exist to give her that but never knowing that Denji could’ve given her that regardless if she controlled him or not do to what she gave him in return.🐱
Fyi, Makima is not young, and the government raising makima was never said in the manga. Kishibe told Denji that the government would turn Nayuta into something similar to makima (a heartless control monster) and not that the government raised Makima. Makima has existed for a long long time - long enough to witness and participate in the War against Chainsaw Man in hell, where all the 4 horsemen fought up against Pochita. The battle against Pochita vs the Four Hoursmen happened years ago. Its mentioned alot, but an example is in chapter 118 which supports this claim this claim: Yoru didn't recognize Fami when she first saw her since *she didn't see her in so long.* Here's the direct quote I'm referring to: "I hadn't seen her in so long that I didn't recognize her." Note that how a smart Devil is raised is still important, and nayuta is a great example, but that doesn't apply to Makima since she's pretty old and wasn't raised by humans.
-Pong Krell from Star Wars: The Clone Wars -Dio Brando and Kars from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure -Floch Forster from Attack on Titan -Chrollo Lucilfer and the Phantom Troupe from Hunter x Hunter -Isabella from The Promised Neverland
I absolutely love your videos that have something to do with anime. The interesting similarity between chainsaw man and jujutsu kaisen is that the evil monsters are solely created by humans in one show their created by our fears but in the other they are created by all our negative emotions which makes you think what is more interesting devils or curses since the other half is born from much more in negative emotions than just fear
And she still has the biggest simp-base in anime history. What a weird case But if I'm being honest, this is not the first time an anime villain has thirsted people
Makes sense. The fanbase often reflects the main character in terms of how they act, it's the point of view of the story, it's how we consume the story, and how we interpret it, so Denji being the biggest simp in Shonen would attract similar simps.
Yay for more anime antagonists! A few I'd love to see in the future are Dio Brando (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure) Junko Enoshima and the Ultimate Despair (Danganronpa) The Major (Hellsing)
Thank you for covering Makima. Chainsaw Man was my first manga. 2 Villans i liked to suggest are Zeke from Attack On Titan and Seiko Osabe from manga Blood On Tracks
My favorite part of this story was seeing denji and pochita having that discussion about the control devil and pochita wanting denji to help the control devil. It not only stays in line with the logic of the world with the characters worrying about the devil coming back but also them trying an approach that allows the next control devil to grow and change like denji, and power have done in the whole story.
The thing about Light is: if he just ignored L from the start, he'd have been fine. He was also killing the wrong people to actually change anything, suggesting which says more about his personality than anything else. Makima given only the Death Note as powerbase would probably still fall for L's bait, but she'd at least also know to go after billionaires and dictators instead of poor people and those in need of mental healthcare.
@@N_o196 she'd have the enormous advantage of not being a teenager and being able to able to plan long term. Contrary to whatever Light claimed he never really seemed to have a goal other than beating his dad's friends.
@@Eniggma39 likely. Lights ego is ultimately what kept screwing him over. In comparison, Makima stayed undetected for God knows how long and willingly allowed government agents to boss her around (now, tbf, it's likely that she actually respected/feared her superiors, but I digress)
Thanks for analyzing Makima! I love csm (manga and anime) and I'm so glad to see it's facinating characters get more mainstream attention outside of thirst traps.
Great video as always, Makima has been one of my favorite villains from the newer Shounen Mangas because she is a truly multilayered character with many different aspects or interpretations of her that I don't think Shounen has truly explored like it does in Chainsaw Men. One part of her character is how she is a god figure as well. It's no surprise with the horsemen (or horsewomen) sisterhood she's in that she has connections to the Bible. Still, as another video on this site by Hiding in Public has found, she has several parallels to the God of the Old Testament in old Jewish beliefs, especially in that scene where all the fiends and hybrids bow to her, similar to the classes of angles bowing to God. It also seems with her being the control devil, she will control the world to a better place much like a god would, but I would argue that there is a much more selfish part of her plan that doesn't involve her survival or domination over the world. One of Hiding in Public's comparisons with Makima to the Old Testment God (keep in mind, neither him nor I are religious scholars and it's been a while since I watched his video) gives an exciting interpretation, that the Old Testement God is lonely so he wanted a connection to his subjects, being human. I believe at some level Makima may truly want love, or an equal relationship of some sort, with Pochita given how she keeps stating that she's a fan of him. However, she is so twisted and inhuman that she can't understand love despite being about to imitate it, leading to her only being able to understand it in the form of control, or being above another like a god, instead of being a pair, an equal, like a real relationship. This even ties into how at the end of part 1 and in part 2, Denji decided to treat Nayuta well since he wanted to show what true love is. By being a great bigger brother to Nayuta, he completes his character arc for part 1 to become like his mentor (Aki) and grow up from a lack of desire or only being hedonistic for desire, to finally control himself to take responsibility for Nayuta. He does all of this because he doesn't want another control devil to become like Makima, Denji doesn't want another Makima and he doesn't believe that a control devil is naturally going to be like her, and he wants to show what true love is. It's a midway between Makima's control and early Denji's Hedonism, it's an equal relationship of respect and love, and we do eventually see that Nayuta was able to understand and show human emotion and not Makima's psychopathy. Makima could never understand what love is, because she never puts someone at an equal level as her, she's always seen herself as higher than others never equal so try as she may, she could only imitate love from the view of God to his subjects, not as a human to another human, which ended up being her undoing.
Zaheer from The Legend of Korra Paul Atreides from Dune Xu Wenwu/The Mandarin from the Marvel Cinematic Universe Dracula from Castlevania (both games and series) Emperor Belos from The Owl House
These are good ones. Zaheer would be an interesting one to do because he actually had a very good intention due to how oppressive a few of the governments were or could be.
I see Emperor Belos thrown around a ton, that'd be a good one. If Vile Eye gets to Owl House then he might as well cover King Andrias to finish the saga of Disney channel show villains
Probably gonna have to wait intill Dune Messiah movie comes out before he does a video on Paul Atreides because Paul hasn't done anything evil yet in the first Dune novel/ 2 movies.
@@Gadget-Walkmen when I heard about what happens with Paul in the messiah book I couldn’t believe it. He was so good in the first 2 movies and a good kid/ young adult. I can’t believe all that happened. I want to read the books but I don’t have the time to do it
Denji is so good that he took in Makima's reincarnation just to be her big brother and give her the love she always desired. After every abuse and horror that he suffered at her hands, she wasn't anywhere near breaking his will to live.
@Kongongongg she's Makima's reincarnation, yet has no connection to her? Okay, makes sense. Totally. If the reincarnation has no connection whatsoever to the devil that preceded it, why would they be so fearful of the Chainsaw devil specifically? I mean, anything with enough power under the hood can potentially take out a devil, but the Chainsaw devil eating them ends the reincarnation cycle. If the devils had no connection, they'd have no reason to fear Chainsaw more than any other thing that kills devils.
Another great one Vile! I’d love to see one for Jenny Schecter from “The L Word” and Nina Meyers from “24.” Two of the most devious and cunning characters in tv history and two of my favorites as well.
Cell from Dragonball Z Doflamingo from One Piece Sephiroth from Final Fantasy 7 Zeref from Fairy Tail Dio from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure The Major from Hellsing
@Oceanman705 a good chunk of the villains covered on this channel aren't complex lol. If fucking Jack Horner could get talked about I don't see why Cell is off the table. Some people just wanna see cool characters get talked about! Plus Cell has a ton of potential for a video. You obviously have to talk about him, but you can also tie in Dr. Gero and the Red Ribbon army since they're responsible for him and a lot of his early ideals came from him.
@@N_o196, genuinely try and name a single trait of Cell that can be talked about for a minute, there’s genuinely almost nothing to him beyond wanting to be perfect
@kevinnigins9488 simple, I'd format it like this: start off by talking about the Red Ribbon army, their loss to Goku, segway into Dr. Gero, his morals, how they influenced the Androids, the future timeline, and lead into Cell. From Cell, you can talk about his personality in 3 distinct phases, 1st, 2nd, and perfect, since all his forms have pretty different looks, actions taken, and personalities. From here, you talk about the world tournament, his actions taken, and then use that to talk about his overall superiority complex before tying that into his defeat from Gohan and how both characters are thematically intertwined, talk about Cell's death, maybe mention what he gets up to in the afterlife, recap, video done. Is it a lot? Not really, but there's enough to probably hit that 10 minute mark. Although, maybe a "Analyzing Evil: Dragon Ball's Cell Saga" would be more efficient. Dunno
Makima’s philosophy ultimately consumes itself as true perfection is nothing. She would keep erasing imperfect concepts until there was nothing left to erase. Total eradication of everything
1. Emperor Belos from The Owl House 2. Eric Cartman from South Park 3. Adam from Hazbin Hotel 4. Henry J. Waternoose from Monsters Inc. 5. Drago Bludvist from How to Train Your Dragon 2 6. Mother Gothel from Tangled 7. Metal Beak from Legend of the Guardians: The owls of Ga'Hoole 8. The High Evolutionary from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 9. Jimmy Crystal from Sing 2 10. Gaston from Beauty and the Beast
As for nayuta, she turns out much better than Makima because of Denji showering her with affection. She is still a control freak, but she is much less sinister and genuinely cares for Denji.
I like how I'm appalled by Makima's manipulation and actions, and then I see this panel [12:55] and get distracted by her expression, briefly forgetting everything I'd just heard. She really does have control in all aspects.
Hope to see these covered some day! - Joe Cooper (Killer Joe) - Nino Brown (New Jack City) - Jake "The Muss" Heke (Once Were Warriors) - Dr. X (from the Operation: Mindcrime albums by Queensrÿche)
Makima was such an intriguing villain for part 1, as she was a in the high tier of power as one of the horsemen, but there were devils that surpassed her strength, such pochita in his chainsaw man form, so she had to fight smarter and play her cards right to get what she wanted. Her death was satisfying after everything she put Denji through, but it was clearly a pyrrhic victory considering how empty Denji’s life is in part 2 outside of Nayuta.
What do you mean, it's not clear how they manifest on earth? They die in hell and then get born on earth. Then when they die on earth they get sent back to hell and the cycle repeats. Thats what makes the darkness devil so scary. It's never died.
Incredible video. Makima is one of the best-written villains I’ve encountered in manga, and you’ve broken down her character and motivations perfectly.
PLEASE do Makishima Shougo one day. For only 22 episodes (as well as 30 min of added scenes you can find on youtube that add a lot of insight) and out of which 40% was only a build up to him, he's a goldmine for analysis.
Could we get a video on Takasugi from Gintama in the future? I’d consider him to be one of the most emotionally compelling, and fleshed out villains I’ve seen in any anime/TV show ever, which is really just a reflection of how well written the entire cast and character dynamics of Gintama are. Im not on the Patreon unfortunately and don’t really have the funds to be subscribing to anything else at the moment, but it would be cool to see this video in the future if anyone on the Patreon wants to suggest it👍 (this is also assuming this man has seen the anime already or is even willing to watch a 300+ ep show lol)
Makima's face-blindness is basically the same as me exclusively referring to all people I don't know, who I get matched with on a game as "teammate," though, I do it because I find it funny to just call them all teammate. That being said, it did make me laugh when VE said (paraphrased), "she probably remembers them as x number instead of their name" because that's basically how I remember any teammate on a game, who isn't a personal friend lmao. Then it made me think, "so literally everyone is teammate to Makima... That's kinda based."
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Suggestions for villains I'd love to see featured: *Frank (Once Upon a Time In the West) *Deacon Frost (Blade) *Albert Ganz & Billy Bear (48 Hours)
Since we're in the topic of anime and finished watching analyzing evil of the character Gendo Ikaki, i would love to see one on Dr Tenma from Astro Boy, any of the versions since they are so similar.
[READ!] Btw, It's a misconception that a Devils are born from fear and that they won't exist anymore when its name isn’t feared. To explain this, let's start all the ways from the top: Devils are given names ("born") based on existing concepts [Many chapters explain this, but its first explained in chapter 6, page 6. Makima states in this chapter: "All Devils are born with a name. The more that name is feared, the more powerful the devil itself." This tells us that: When, for example, the concept Tomatoes exists, then the Tomato Devil will be born. If there're cars, then the car devil will exist. Note that concepts can also be mental constructs or abstract ideas. That's why the zombie devil can exist or the ghost devil, even though ghosts and zombies aren't real things in real life. (Off topic: Also, our perception of concepts has a bit of an influence on their appearance and power, but thats a discussion for another time.) All fear does is determine how weak or strong a devil is. So the more a specific concept/name is feared, the stronger that Devil becomes. (fear doesn't give birth to them it just strengthens them, and the lack of fear/no fear at all doesnt kills them either. It instead weakens them a considerable amount). So if a specific concept isn't feared *at all*, then the Devil that is associated with that concept will just be super weak, but as long as the concept tied to that devil exists, then they won't be erased. So basically, what I'm trying to say is that concepts determine whether or not a devil exists-It's not fear that dictates this. As an example, if cars aren't feared at all, then the Car Devil can still exist since the concept cars still exist. Anyways, the only way a devil can truly 'die' and escape the cycle of death and rebirth between hell/earth is by being eaten by Pochita since he erases the very concept that is associated with that devil. So if he eats the Car Devil, then the concept cars are erased from the past and present, which in turn erases/kills the Car Devil (since the concept of cars no longer exists). That is why Pochita is so highly valued by every devil, especially by the 4 horsemen and primal devils.
Great video as always! Some more suggestions from me… -Dio Brando from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventures -Kirei Kotomine from the Fate series -Frieza from the Dragonball series -Megatron from the Transformers series
What I love about the devils in CSM is that they make us examine and reflect upon the concepts they represent and why/how they instill fear in us I never considered the concept of control to be directly scary to me, but to see Makima's weilding of everything that she gets a hold of and to have the concept be contextualized in her characterization made me realize how terrifying control is Losing your autonomy is scary in and off itself, but for it to be given to someone/something else that uses you as a tool is deeply terrifying and the fucked up thing about it is, I may be able to not encounter or ignore many things that may scare me, but I am controlled just as everyone else is by others and by concepts I may or may not grasp. I cannot escape this fact, it's an inherently terrifying part of existince that no one can challenge
OH MY GOD! Chainsaw Man is my second favorite anime/manga of all time! Thanks so much for this video😁😁😁! I don’t even have a proposal for a new video like I always comment I’m so excited.
@@andrewemerson6077 my pleasure bro, those are some of my favorite stories, not just in manga but generally. they get even crazier and more brutal at times, but you should be able to handle it !
@@BurghezulDjentilom I would recommend tatsuki fujimoto other manga too, Goodbye Eri is his most well written manga. It's very different from a fire punch and chainsaw man but it provides the same melancholic feeling.
[Read 2]: I might have misheard, but I just wanted to share that Pochita doesn't just erase the "fear" of the concept, but his ability also erases the concept related to the devil and not just the "memory." Let me explain: A devil is directly correlated to its concept (they are born from concepts). So, when Chainsaw man erases a devil, then the concept itself will be erased, which would, in turn, erase the devil and everyone's memory of that specific concept. So, when CSM erases concepts, it doesn't just erase everyone's memory of that concept, but it also rewrites reality itself, which alters the past, present, and future (Makimas words in Chapter 84). As an example, when CSM erased the "sixth sense all humans used to have," everyone didn't just forget that they had a sixth sense. It literally just rewrites reality to where humans never had this sixth sense in the first place. (Also, one thing. Focus on how Makima describes this: "sixth sense all humans used to have" This means that humans used to have sixth sense, but bcs Pochita ate the sixth sense Devil, he consequently made it so that no one has sixth sense. The concept of sixth sense was therefore erased, and not just the memories.) Or WW2 and Nazis as an example. It didn't just make everyone forget about the war/nazis, but it also led to the erasure of these two event, which led to consequences like Russia never being created and instead USSR still thriving as a nation (soviet are mentioned in bomb girl arc and in chapter 73, page 11). The point is that it doesn't just erase people's memory: - "Four possible conclusions other than death at the end of a living beings lifespan." Pochita ate 4 devils that were conclusions other than death at the end of a living beings lifespan and erased these concepts. So when a person is at the end of their lifespan, the only thing that will happen to them Is death and not the other four conclusions since they already got erased. - "The light of a particular star that would break childrens minds." The existence of this concept (the sun that breaks children's minds) created a devil related to this specific sun. The more this sun was feared, the stronger that devil became. When Pochita ate this devil, it erased the concept related to that devil, which was that dangerous sun. - Another example is when Makima wanted to create "the worst kind of peace" by using Pochitas' concept erasure to erase devils - Devils like the Death devil. This will naturally erase the concept of death, and when the concept Death is erased by Pochita, then it will lead to no one being able to die. If your wondering what would happen if the concept of death is erased then I'll share my thoughts: As you can imagine, erasing Death would result in unimaginable consequences since changes in the past would naturally affect the present and future as well: this opens up questions like "what would happen to Aki if the concept Death were to be erased from the past and present? Would he be alive again?" Well, Aki would unfortunately cease to exist since there's a high likelihood that he might never be born by his parent when the past is changed so much. You could even go as far as to say that his whole ancestry tree would die out. And this doesn't just apply to Aki: trillion of humans would technically be erased from the 'old' reality, but then in this new rewritten reality where Death doesn't exist - every organism would be completely new and immortal. What happens afterward is up to our imagination to determine, but logically speaking, evolution would take a completely different path or even outright stop (they'd be new creatures. Also, the animals we know today would most likely never exist, or they might be altered. Humans aren't excluded from this process, and I doubt they'd be called humans due to them no longer resembling 'humans'). Our current languages and cultures would most likely be lost. Earth would be overpopulated since everything now just reproduces whilst no one dies. Diseases would spread super rapidly, and everyone's body would eventually begin to rot (depends on how effective the regeneration is). It'd basically be like hell 2.0. Whats interesting is that one of the many BIG mysterious about Pochitas concept-erasure ability now, is discussed in chapter 87: Makima states that when Pochita ate the 'Hybrid' devil, only the memories of this concept was erased, but the concept itself miraculously wasn't erased. She then says this important quote right after: "THEY ARE THE SOLE EXCEPTION" - Makima. She continues on to say that the concept of 'Hybrids was the ONLY concept to not be erased by Pochita, while only the memories of this concept were erased. So, basically, everyones memories of 'hybrids' were erased, but Pochitas ability didn't rewrite reality completely to where 'Hybrids' never existed. That's why hybrids, like the Katana hybrid and Bomb hybrid, can still be made and exist, unlike something like the "sixth sense of humanity" since they are now already erased and not just forgotten. Since the hybrids were the sole exception, then, if Death devil was eaten, it won't be as lucky, bcs everyones memories about death will be erased and reality will be altered to where everyone never died. Pochita erasing concepts has unimaginable consequences. But luckily, Pochita is extremely careful and doesn't thoughtlessly erase concepts. He, for example, shows this in the Makima vs Pochita battle, where he doesn't erase an important concept such as control and instead kills her 26 times instead. Makima, being a fan of him and who wishes to be erased, naturally gets mad at this. But yeah, I hope that you understand now that Pochita erases the concepts of the devils he eats, which in turn retcons everyone's memories of this concept. Btw, I just wanted to add that the only beings that can 'remember' what concepts Pochita erased are: Pochita himself, The 4 horseman, and most likely the Primal Devils. These limited devils basically remember the old reality that was rewritten into the new reality that they are in, which is pretty insane if you think too deeply about it.
He's already done that. By talking about the Judge, he necessarily had to cover all of the characters with whom he interacts, most of whom aren't exactly good people, but they're not nearly as evil as the Judge.
Gemma Morrow from Sons Of Anarchy Mickey & Mallory Knox from Natural Born Killers Dolores Umbridge from the Harry Potter series Mr. Roat from Wait Until Dark Oswald Cobblepot from Gotham Harvey Two-Face from The Dark Knight
- Dio from Jojo - Chrollo and/or Meruem from Hunter x Hunter - Frieza from Dragon Ball - Doflamingo from One Piece -Askeladd from Vinland Saga or Vinland Saga in general - Aizen from Bleach - The Akatsuki and/or Madara from Naruto - Friend from 20th Century Boys
The only criticism I have here, is that Makima never knew about the specific of the contract. She ASSUMED Denji needs to have a normal life. Making Denji be so broken he can't dream anymore also makes him not have a normal life anymore. She almost succeeded with the wrong formula.
@@Kongongongg Oh, sorry. I forgot the average CSM fan doesn't have reading comprehension so let me break it down for you mkay? In Chapter 2, Makima mentions to Denji that her nose is pretty good that she can smell Pochita inside of Denji. She never actually remembered Denji, other than the smell of Pochita. In Chapter 84, Makima mentions that she is contracted with the Prime Minister that any "attack" directed at her will be redirected to a random Japanese citizen as an illness or accident. Denji learns about this in the final fight. During the fight with the Weapons and Makima in Chapter 87 and 88, Pochita threw his heart when he was launched into space and regenerated from there. Denji has a vague memory of the fight, even though Pochita did the fighting. In Chapter 91, Denji made a contract with Power to have her blood. In Chapter 96, Denji made use of all the things above. - Gambled that Makima only "smelled" Pochita and never cared about Denji. - Used the Pochita heart technique to have Pochita fight Makima while Denji is hiding from her. - Used Power's blood to make the "Power Chainsaw" to attack Makima. - Power's blood makes her unable to regenerate as she is still attacking inside of her. This also made it possible to chop her up into pieces. - Eating her doesn't count as an "attack" as Denji sees it as a form of "love". Now tell me. Where can I insert the "author killed her via making her dumb and powerless"?
@@janreiafrica hello, amazingly you made every single argument that will work against Denji here. Let’s start, shall we? 1. Smell. You are correct. Makima doesn’t even know scent of Denji and only see Pochita all the time. And she doesn’t even need to care about Denji to stop him. Remember fight at graveyard? Makima believed that she was fighting Denji right? But this was actually Pochita. Denji was hiding. So tell me why didn’t Makima spot the difference between smell of small, heart shaped Pochita and big, human like Pochita? If I remember correctly Makima was a big fan of CSM. So, why didn’t she notice Pochita’s BIG smell exactly? No Denji or his scent needed. Only difference between smell of small and big Pochita. 2. Excellent point about Pochita throwing his own heart to Earth. Do you know who else not only saw this trick but also COMMENTED about this? Oh right. Makima. She was aware of such ability. 3. Another great point about Power blood! Only problem. Power did fought Makima and even used same blood against her…guess what? Didn’t do anything against regeneration of Makima. And tell why didn’t Makima just teleported via rats to half-destroyed Power and Pochita? Why didn’t Makima just repeat Reze scene? I know you how more arguments but let’s just stop here and after your answers return to these
Here are some Anime/Manga villains I think you could do The Seven Deadly Sins and Father from Fullmetal Alchemist Dio from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure Aizen from Bleach Vicious from Cowboy Bebop The Killer from Erased The World of Roanapur from Black Lagoon And Lucy from Elfen Lied
ill add some to my fav anime series antagonst Meruem From HXH Takasugi From Gintama Utsuro Gintama Fisk From DD Tv Show Maybe Dex also Naruto Villains Itachi Pain Madara Kotomine Kirie From Fate I might add more here who knows
How did I miss this episode 3 months ago? Makima is literally my favorite fictional character, I would have happily jumped at the chance to see this one asap
You might not see this, but I’m glad you covered her since I’ve started reading the manga and she definitely has potential to be one of my top favorite villains. The others you already covered, such as Lalo, Hans, Anton, Calvin.
Could you cover ‘Shōgo Makishima’ from the lesser known dystopian cyberpunk anime “Psycho-Pass” ? He is a very interesting character as well as a menacing villain with complex themes and philosophy that few have given attention to
Joe Goldberg (YOU) Namor (MCU) Amanda Waller (DC) Cersei (Game of Thrones) Adam Smasher (Cyber Punk) Gaunter O Dimm (The Witcher) The Enclave (Fallout)
Devils can come to earth once they're killed in Hell by another Devil, they go over that with the Darkness Devil itself, talking about how he's stuck in Hell because no one was able to kill it yet (as a way to reinforce how strong it was and how it was the first kind of fear humanity experienced).
She obsessed so much over the human condition, and how to “solve” it, but she understood almost nothing about it. Such an incredible villain.
Fujimoto can really write
Klaus Schwab in a nutshell.
@@asahearts1 True except i can lock at her and not throw up
pochitas question in their fight sums it up perfectly, in saying she wouldnt allow a world where bad movies exist, she shows she doesnt understand that tragedy is an essential part of life, as said by kobeni, so as dadgamer said, fujimoto be cooking
psychology is borderline pseudoscience lol she is doing the best of her abilities. Not even a villain.
The thing with Makima is there is an underlying question:
"To what degree is Makima a slave to her own nature?"
As a devil, they may all inherently be evil to some degree. Barring a few notable examples, they all seem to not care that much about humans, especially in the grand scheme of things. Makima, and by extension Nayuta (her reincarnation), seem to have some caring aspects about them.
When she tells Kishibe her plan is to make a safer world by eliminating Death, Famine, and War, the inverse is true. What if she was telling the TRUTH? That completely redefines her character.
Immediately following Makima's defeat, Kishibe asks Denji to take care of Nayuta. Saying that, "If the government gets her, she may end up exactly as Makima." Add into the fact we don't know how old the Control Devil was in it's Makima incarnation, but on two separate occasions she refers to her government overseers as scary (train scene), or people necessary evils like her have to answer to (the yakuza leader scene).
Many people think it's highly likely she was raised by the government, both on account of Kishibe's wording and the fact she clearly feels like she has to be careful around the Japanese goverment.
Indirect evidence to this is how Nayuta is almost a completely different character. Yes, she still mind controls some of her classmates, there is the devil nature, but she isn't orchestrating Machiavellian-tier plans like Makima was. Why? Because she isn't being raised to be a tool by a power-hungry entity like the government. She is being raised in a seemingly entirely loving relationship by Denji.
TLDR, Nature vs. nuture is a question inherently central to Makima's/Nayuta's character. Fujimoto cooks.
I think Makima is ultimately like a dog chasing a car; when and if she ever gets what she wants, which is total control over everyone in the world, she wouldn’t really know what to do with it. While she finds humans’ infatuation with her useful, she understands that they only like her because they are being controlled by her, and wouldn’t care at all if it weren’t for that. And so her deepest subconscious desire to be loved as an equal is, in her mind, impossible.
So she plans to do what an all-powerful human would do, which is try and create a new world order. And much like an egomaniacal human, the irony of her having to enslave all of humanity and murder millions of innocent people to supposedly benefit them is completely lost on her.
A man CHOOSES; A slave OBEYS.
Best concise analysis I've read thus far.
Simple answer: don't let the government raise your family instead raise them yourself.
@@Scoonertuna homelander
I'll never forget this one chick who cosplayed as Makima, and never actually read or watched CSM. Then she found out what Makima did, and my God it was hilarious.
This is actually pretty bad. Don’t like people who cosplay unfamiliar to them characters
Name please for references ?
I will never understand people who cosplay something without knowing what it is.
People cosplay for 2 reasons: Genuine love for a character or attention seeking
@@Kongongongg Really? I dont really care. Cosplay is all about replicating the image of a character. Dont need to act like them. And I'm a *major* chainsawman fan, probably my new favorite manga in the past decade. People just like how a character looks, sees the sweeping popularity, and decides that's what they want to appear as.
Fitting that for all she obssesed over pochita she knew SO LITTLE about him that denji managed to trick her and defeat her.
Denji actually couldn’t have trick her.
She had birds which should have alarm her about Denji much earlier
But Fujomoto said nah, we don’t do constant writing here
Also she wouldn’t just sitting on the ground.
At minimum she would have starts walking. Or at least waiting for ambush.
Because she knew about heart-trick (she commented about it when Pochita did comeback on Earth from space)
She also should have known that something isn’t right here. She lost Pochita for couple hours or even day after Kishibe hide Denji.
And suddenly Pochita appears at graveyard? C’mon Conquest Devil isn’t this dumb.
Exactly, she never actually loved Pochita bc she didn’t understand love. That’s why she lost in the end.
@@illumi9044 nah
Love isn’t cannibalism also
@@Kongongongg Denji thought it was, that’s why it got past her contract.
@@illumi9044 he is a God now or what?
This is asspull and not shouldn’t have happened
But bad writing saves the day I guess
Awful ending
I love how at the end of the day, Makima at her core is just an insane fan girl.
It makes a lot of CSM funny in hindsight. All this started because a neet fangirl was desperate
my fav part is right before she dies where csm (actually pochita) asks her if bad movies would exist in her perfect world & she has a moment of “why are you still denji” its soooo telling bc she was so blind she couldnt fathom her hero was actually more grounded in reality than her
I think the neat part is how despite her immense cruelty, inteligence etc she is kind of just a child or a perosn who never properly grew up
At its heart her desire was very childish. She never properly learnt to just...live.
@@DivergentJordynhuh.... so Makima Didn't want to change the world, she just hated the way it was?
@@Scoonertuna she wanted to get rid of what made it bad but that included so many things including death. her “perfect” world would just be ultimate control including the lil things that make it unique
The irony of makima's life was that everything she wanted she could have gotten with Denji. But her obsession with Pochita blinded her to it
Yup, it’s fitting that Makima was so ignorant about certain emotions. You can’t control someone and love them at the same time.
The problem...Denji isn't The guy lol.
I wouldn't even date him either, with the obsession he has over her.
@@number0017 The problem is that Denji is way too imature
Hes also 16, it's morally screwed right out of the gate. @nada2663
What's ironic is that later on (spoilers if you haven't read the manga)
her reincarnated self cared only for Denji and nobody else. She even willingly put herself in harm's way to save him.
Before their final battle, Denji asks Makima if bad movies will still exist in the new world she intends to create, and she responds by saying the world would be better off without them. While fans have their own interpretation of the real meaning behind this conversation, it’s still a great indicator of how far Makima is willing to abuse Pochita’s power. While most people go out their way to avoid watching bad movies, they’re ultimately harmless in the grand scale of life’s problems. Makima saying she would erase them shows she wouldn’t stop until even the smallest imperfection is removed from her idea of humanity. It really would’ve been the worst kind of peace.
Not at all. With erase of concept of bad movies only good movies would exist.
Nothing bad about this.
@@Kongongongghow would u know a movie is good if bad movies dont exist? Its the fact that bad movies exist we are able to appreciate good movies.
@@rogerloh1 you using real life logic here. But in CSM it possible to erase the whole concepts so it’s not an issue
@@Kongongonggerasing the concept of bad movies also erases the concept of good movies, since its no longer a good movie, its just a movie. Its like listening to an amazing song over and over until its no longer that amazing song, its just another one in your playlist.
@@Kongongongg a lot of ppl enjoy or learn from bad movies. erasing them would be erasing those positive experiences.
also while there are def movies that can be objectively bad/low-quality, there's no way of deciding which movies are good or bad definitively. is every movie w/ any kind of flaw bad? bc that applies to basically every movie in existence--even ghibli films have animation errors. and u might say "she said she'd erase bad movies, not movies w/ any kind of flaw whatsoever", but as the original comment said it's a slippery slope to go down
From now on, you’re in my care, Denji. I expect “yes” or “woof” for answers. I don’t need a dog that says “no.” -Makima. All you need to know about one of the most manipulative and abusive characters in recent memory. Poor denji
Said when Denji was hungry and tasting a hot bowl of udon noodles for the first time of his life, and then informing him that as a human-devil hybrid he had no human rights, and would be killed if he ever tried to quit his job as a devil hunter.
“Woof!” - Denji
I’ve thankfully never been a victim of manipulation, at least not that I could recall ever, but I can only imagine how horrible it must be
@@ShadowDante7yea it’s not fun very mentally draining
@@ShadowDante7no one cares
@@toshinronin okay wow, that was rude, didn’t have to be like that. Where did that come from?
•Claude Frollo book version
•Paul Atreides from "Dune"
•Ursula from "The little mermaid"
he’s already done a couple characters from dune so the paul video will probably be out soon
Why Ursula? In the book she was never evil and the movie's backstory is too muddied (especially with the sequels) to actually have a clear canon.
@@inferiorinferno8859 I mean, we know almost nothing about Jafar or Scar's backstories, and he still did a video on them, so I don't see why he shouldn't cover Ursula. Not every villain has to have an intricate backstory to be interesting.
@@miro.georgiev97 dito
Yoshii Toranaga from “Shogun”
Makima is a scarily accurate portrayal of Female-on-male abuse. Although we see a lot of abusers who are men, we don’t see a lot of them who are women, when it comes to depictions in stories that is. For some reason knowing that someone else may have experienced this trauma in the same way I did really helped me emotionally which is why I’ve bonded to this story so much
The best example of this, at least in manga, is the mother from Chi no Wadachi. What she put her son through was beyond disturbing. I haven't even finished the manga yet because it's so depressing.
Fujimoto watch a lot of abusive mother documentary to create makima
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot You need to have a heart of stone to stomach that manga chapter by chapter. The story was incredibly slow when it came to progression. But if you consider how an incredibly huge amount of real children are being treated that way in asian society even now, it pretty much puts you in their shoes and gets you to appreciate the story in the best/worst way possible.
EXCELLENT THE VILE EYE 👁🗨 ANALYSIS EVIL 😈 CHAINSAW MAN MAKIMA WORK.
same. chainsaw man, especially the manga, has helped me look at the things i've experienced and recognize that i was actually sexually abused.
Yeah, she's basically the devil in human form. Which is much more terrifying than the other three. Well, I know we haven't seen much of the other 3 but currently
Famine isn't really taking the spot of villain rn so it's unfair to say how much of a threat she really is.
War is almost a gag character due to be so weak.
Death is probaly the only one who stands a candle of a chance to be held in a similar position to Makima, and yet i doubt she will be as much of a threat as her due to how personal Makima's actions were for the MC and for the reader.
@@MarianaBello-fq3hx
Didn't Fami start the apocalypse? She was the reason everyone turned into a zombie chainsaw.
@@frog6054 Was she? Anyway she isn't doing anything direct to the MCs yet.
@@frog6054She only did that to make Chainsaw man and War more stronger to fight death since War was essentially forgotten and how CSM was seen as good in the public eye thus making him weak.
@@inumakisenpai
Yeah but now everyone hates him and nayuta is gone
I once had a dream that Makima bought me a Rick Sanchez action figure at a convention.
Shit was crazy dude
I have no words
did she turn herself into a pickle and call herself pickle makima
@@bass8583 Pretty understandable to be honest
@@pringleberg6826 funniest shit I’ve ever heard
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Makima is such a win for women. We finally have a girl in the big leagues of evil anime characters. Like in the past couple years I’ve seen her in lineups with Griffith and Light and even Johan. She’s a trailblazer.
- Father from FMA:B
- Dante from FMA ‘03
- The Homunculi from those respective series (03 Envy or Brotherhood Wrath namely)
Yooo Wrath would be a great episode
I was just thinking that he's mentioned that he loved FMA but he's never done a video on the villains
I would love a breakdown of Envy
Especially Lust🌙 even for the (far too) short screentime, she managed to sometimes haunt my dreams.
This is some crazy timing, seeing as I just rewatched Chainsaw Man last night. What an amazing villain. I'm disturbed by how many people she's manipulated in the story AND in the fanbase.
She cute tho
That's what makes it genius. If the audience makes the same mistake as Denji, they can better relate to him as a character.
@@Pazuzu4All They might just not grow with him as a person tho 💀
I kinda see her as both a villain and a friend for some reason I know she is manipulative but we have yet to discover her true goals so...still waiting for when we know what she really has in mind for our boy
What’s very ironic about Makima is all she wanted in the end was an equal and a family of some form of that connection and all she had experienced had brought her to the conclusions and actions that she took combined with her image diesire to control all around her, she never could find an “equal” even her own sisters. But if you look at the next control devil Nayuta, who found out makima’s desires and wanted to replicate them, had everything she wanted from Denji. She turned out as an actual functioning member of society.
Makima is literally one of the best psychopath type villains in fiction in my opinion. Yeah, she's a literal demon/devil, but its still really well done.
She has no conscience whatsoever, is an expert manipulator that can understand and manipulate people's emotions and cares about nothing outside of her own ambitions/wants.
However, this inhumanity , as much as it was a strength, was ultimately her undoing. She only cared about The Chainsaw Devil/Pochita and felt that Denji himself was so base and so far beneath her that she never truly understood him, which ultimately allowed him to get the drop on her and even "permanently" kill her.
Nah, it was asspulls and bad writing that killed her.
Anyway her status as manipulative genius is overrated because you don’t need to manipulate people who are under your command and who can’t do anything about their status. This is not a manipulation
people like her tend to not view anyone other them themselves as superior Makima would have never recognized denji no matter how much he loved her she couldn't understand or want to understand she had given into her nature too much. she couldn't help herself. sad really but makima was messed up cause she never views anyone as a equal and she has zero conscience. she lacks humanity the ability to feel and understand emotions she can fake them so perfectly. she could have had what she regardless she if just tried to understand denji all she cared about was chainsaw man not denji. but i am glad her reincarnation is is being shown to have more humanity denji promised makima that he would give all the love she didn't have in her previous.
@@Kongongongg Did you...even read the manga? All of these comments not only are grammatically incorrect, but make no sense at all. It hurts just trying to grasp whatever planetary reach you're attempting to get right now.
@@viderevero1338 yes I did read the manga. You can find my main standalone comment under this video
@@Kongongongg shit take tbh, chainsaw man has fucking great writing
Makima: when the Jp government wastes lives it's honorable. When I do it I'm evil and need to get vored. So unfair
I'm still processing that Denji's strongest ability is vore
@@SamueL-td7fb his strongest abilities are asspulls and plot armor from the author
@@Kongongonggehh fair.
@@Kongongongg Yeah, his abilities sound like something "Oblivion" Devil should have, but not fucking Chainsaw Devil.
He's prolly the annihilation devil but that would require some actual subtext detection duuuuh
Makima's greatest crime against mankind is not in CSM continuity but in the real world. Of course, I'm referring to the inception of Makima Woofers
Well the new control devil is a kid, it would be creepy if we woofed to her.
Cope and seethe. Best girl.
Can anyone tell me when did the woofer thing started? 2021?
@@Kongongongg Homeboy, she is not even real, you are the one coping hard. This is just sad to read at this point.
@@iansilva7422 nah. It’s you guys who love that awful ending. You guys are coping
I wonder how strong the “talking to women” devil is
The strongest
Denji's singlehandedly fueling it lol
Solos the Dragon Ball verse
Makes the gun devil shake
The "fumble" devil has never left hell because nothing is strong enough to kill it.
3:22 Actually, we know that devils have to die in Hell to be reborn in the human realm. Thats the reason why the strongest Devils are stated to live in hell and why Primal Devils dont leave the confines of Hell, because theyve never once expierenced death.
I'm glad I found this comment. I'll just add on by saying that we know this due to Angel Devil's exposition in chapter 53
We also know that the devils that represent primal fears never experience death from chapter 64
@@imjustherefortehlulz Yeah, also technically even a 100% full power Gun Devil is nothing to the average Devil in Hell.
As the only reason it even appeared during the Terror attack in America, was because it was already defeated in Hell.
All the powerful or more powerful fears that arent Primal Devils, such as the Gun Devil dont appear all the time due to their power.
Also, then fact that Pochita and Primal Devils can travel across Hell in under a few minutes is insane, as there are numerous doors. Yet one door like the door leading to the human realm, can hold universe-sized spaces.
So its basically a multiverse onto itself, implying Devils are an eldritch horror that specialized in hunting humans and that are bound to concepts and empowered by them.
Even christianity is a big deal and Horsemen of the Apocalpyse and the Angels like Power and Princi (that are reference to castes of Angels like Principality and the Powers) exist.
And the fact that in Part 2 Adam and Eve were mentioned, but then got cut off means that there might be more behind why Devils exist.
ooo so who killed them first to make em go up?
@@cycy8699 most likely Chainsaw Man, as the sound of his revving engine is the last thing they hear before reincarnating
Makima is basically a young devil that wanted actual affection/love from something she could never control do to the environment she was raised in and saw chainsaw man as the only being to exist to give her that but never knowing that Denji could’ve given her that regardless if she controlled him or not do to what she gave him in return.🐱
Essentially. A lot of Makima's downfall is because of her nature as the control devil, this is why pochita asked Denji to give Nayuta a chance imo
@@N_o196 And he gave her exactly what the Control Devil had always wanted; a proper family. That's why she became so protective of him.
Fyi, Makima is not young, and the government raising makima was never said in the manga. Kishibe told Denji that the government would turn Nayuta into something similar to makima (a heartless control monster) and not that the government raised Makima.
Makima has existed for a long long time - long enough to witness and participate in the War against Chainsaw Man in hell, where all the 4 horsemen fought up against Pochita.
The battle against Pochita vs the Four Hoursmen happened years ago. Its mentioned alot, but an example is in chapter 118 which supports this claim this claim: Yoru didn't recognize Fami when she first saw her since *she didn't see her in so long.*
Here's the direct quote I'm referring to: "I hadn't seen her in so long that I didn't recognize her."
Note that how a smart Devil is raised is still important, and nayuta is a great example, but that doesn't apply to Makima since she's pretty old and wasn't raised by humans.
i've lost gallons to her
this comment is so unhinged
Me too buddy
Gross.
Bro wtf. Also same
I don't get the appeal
-Pong Krell from Star Wars: The Clone Wars
-Dio Brando and Kars from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
-Floch Forster from Attack on Titan
-Chrollo Lucilfer and the Phantom Troupe from Hunter x Hunter
-Isabella from The Promised Neverland
YES DIO
Kenny ackerman also need an episode
really not that much to say about pong krell
@@RamboSnoop Umbara was one of the only good arcs of that otherwise garbage show.
He should do Isaac Westcott from Date A Live as well.
-Char Aznable from Mobile Suit Gundam
-Ragyo Kiryuin from Kill La Kill
-Chrollo Lucifer from Hunter x Hunter
-Dio Brando from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
I absolutely love your videos that have something to do with anime.
The interesting similarity between chainsaw man and jujutsu kaisen is that the evil monsters are solely created by humans in one show their created by our fears but in the other they are created by all our negative emotions which makes you think what is more interesting devils or curses since the other half is born from much more in negative emotions than just fear
And she still has the biggest simp-base in anime history. What a weird case
But if I'm being honest, this is not the first time an anime villain has thirsted people
Average anime fan crush
It start as ironic,but I'm not sure it's ironic anymore
Makes sense. The fanbase often reflects the main character in terms of how they act, it's the point of view of the story, it's how we consume the story, and how we interpret it, so Denji being the biggest simp in Shonen would attract similar simps.
the only thing I love more than a brilliantly crafted villain hiding in plain sight is a fat ass.
Up until recently anime kept want us to simp for boring nice "high girl power" ideal wife things 🤮
Yay for more anime antagonists! A few I'd love to see in the future are
Dio Brando (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)
Junko Enoshima and the Ultimate Despair (Danganronpa)
The Major (Hellsing)
I would like to add Millions Knives from Trigun (with an honorable mention to Legato Bluesummers)
@@AlecEburhard Good choices.
I would like to see Orochimaru from Naruto, feels like he could be a good pick.
Funny Valentine
@@HugoLiivak Madara as well.
Thank you for covering Makima. Chainsaw Man was my first manga. 2 Villans i liked to suggest are Zeke from Attack On Titan and Seiko Osabe from manga Blood On Tracks
My favorite part of this story was seeing denji and pochita having that discussion about the control devil and pochita wanting denji to help the control devil. It not only stays in line with the logic of the world with the characters worrying about the devil coming back but also them trying an approach that allows the next control devil to grow and change like denji, and power have done in the whole story.
Wow I just watched a comparison between Makima and Light Yagami. Good timing
The thing about Light is: if he just ignored L from the start, he'd have been fine. He was also killing the wrong people to actually change anything, suggesting which says more about his personality than anything else.
Makima given only the Death Note as powerbase would probably still fall for L's bait, but she'd at least also know to go after billionaires and dictators instead of poor people and those in need of mental healthcare.
@tyrant-den884 Makima Vs L would be insane lol. I think she'd go under the radar much better than Light could
@@N_o196 she'd have the enormous advantage of not being a teenager and being able to able to plan long term. Contrary to whatever Light claimed he never really seemed to have a goal other than beating his dad's friends.
@@N_o196she doesn’t have Light Pride so she would just ignore him.
@@Eniggma39 likely. Lights ego is ultimately what kept screwing him over. In comparison, Makima stayed undetected for God knows how long and willingly allowed government agents to boss her around (now, tbf, it's likely that she actually respected/feared her superiors, but I digress)
Potential Candidates for "Analyzing Evil"...
-Odin (God of War: Ragnarok)
-Dio Brando, Yoshikage Kira, Diavolo, Enrico Pucci (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)
-The Major (Hellsing)
-Megatron, Unicron (Transformers)
-The Mishima Family (Tekken)
-Silco, Jinx (Arcane)
-Majora's Mask (Legend of Zelda)
-Sephiroth, JENOVA, SHINRA (Final Fantasy VII)
-Grand Admiral Thrawn (Star Wars)
-Edelgard von Hresvelg (Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Crimson Flower is a villain route, fight me)
-Yujiro Hanma (Baki the Grappler)
-Orochimaru, Pain, Obito, Madara (Naruto)
-Black Lagoon (ala Pulp Fiction and Far Cry 3)
-High Evolutionary (Guardians of the Galaxy 3)
Thanks for analyzing Makima! I love csm (manga and anime) and I'm so glad to see it's facinating characters get more mainstream attention outside of thirst traps.
Great video as always, Makima has been one of my favorite villains from the newer Shounen Mangas because she is a truly multilayered character with many different aspects or interpretations of her that I don't think Shounen has truly explored like it does in Chainsaw Men.
One part of her character is how she is a god figure as well. It's no surprise with the horsemen (or horsewomen) sisterhood she's in that she has connections to the Bible. Still, as another video on this site by Hiding in Public has found, she has several parallels to the God of the Old Testament in old Jewish beliefs, especially in that scene where all the fiends and hybrids bow to her, similar to the classes of angles bowing to God. It also seems with her being the control devil, she will control the world to a better place much like a god would, but I would argue that there is a much more selfish part of her plan that doesn't involve her survival or domination over the world.
One of Hiding in Public's comparisons with Makima to the Old Testment God (keep in mind, neither him nor I are religious scholars and it's been a while since I watched his video) gives an exciting interpretation, that the Old Testement God is lonely so he wanted a connection to his subjects, being human. I believe at some level Makima may truly want love, or an equal relationship of some sort, with Pochita given how she keeps stating that she's a fan of him. However, she is so twisted and inhuman that she can't understand love despite being about to imitate it, leading to her only being able to understand it in the form of control, or being above another like a god, instead of being a pair, an equal, like a real relationship.
This even ties into how at the end of part 1 and in part 2, Denji decided to treat Nayuta well since he wanted to show what true love is. By being a great bigger brother to Nayuta, he completes his character arc for part 1 to become like his mentor (Aki) and grow up from a lack of desire or only being hedonistic for desire, to finally control himself to take responsibility for Nayuta. He does all of this because he doesn't want another control devil to become like Makima, Denji doesn't want another Makima and he doesn't believe that a control devil is naturally going to be like her, and he wants to show what true love is. It's a midway between Makima's control and early Denji's Hedonism, it's an equal relationship of respect and love, and we do eventually see that Nayuta was able to understand and show human emotion and not Makima's psychopathy. Makima could never understand what love is, because she never puts someone at an equal level as her, she's always seen herself as higher than others never equal so try as she may, she could only imitate love from the view of God to his subjects, not as a human to another human, which ended up being her undoing.
Chainsaw man is masterfully written man makima is an incredible villain’s man
Nah about writing part tho
@@Kongongongg It does have good writing though. Fujimoto is subtle with his writing and art.
Would love to see you cover Raskolnikov from Crime and Punishment
Zaheer from The Legend of Korra
Paul Atreides from Dune
Xu Wenwu/The Mandarin from the Marvel Cinematic Universe
Dracula from Castlevania (both games and series)
Emperor Belos from The Owl House
These are good ones. Zaheer would be an interesting one to do because he actually had a very good intention due to how oppressive a few of the governments were or could be.
I see Emperor Belos thrown around a ton, that'd be a good one. If Vile Eye gets to Owl House then he might as well cover King Andrias to finish the saga of Disney channel show villains
Probably gonna have to wait intill Dune Messiah movie comes out before he does a video on Paul Atreides because Paul hasn't done anything evil yet in the first Dune novel/ 2 movies.
@@Gadget-Walkmen when I heard about what happens with Paul in the messiah book I couldn’t believe it. He was so good in the first 2 movies and a good kid/ young adult. I can’t believe all that happened. I want to read the books but I don’t have the time to do it
@@BlackMarvel25 Find the time to read it by reading a chapter a night, it's totally worth it!
Denji is so good that he took in Makima's reincarnation just to be her big brother and give her the love she always desired.
After every abuse and horror that he suffered at her hands, she wasn't anywhere near breaking his will to live.
Hun. Nayuta isn’t Makima and don’t have any connection to her.
Completely different character, this is not Denji’s achievement
@Kongongongg she's Makima's reincarnation, yet has no connection to her? Okay, makes sense. Totally.
If the reincarnation has no connection whatsoever to the devil that preceded it, why would they be so fearful of the Chainsaw devil specifically?
I mean, anything with enough power under the hood can potentially take out a devil, but the Chainsaw devil eating them ends the reincarnation cycle. If the devils had no connection, they'd have no reason to fear Chainsaw more than any other thing that kills devils.
@@Kongongongg Don't try being smug and call people "hun" You're disgusting
Denji is too dumb to be depressed. That's a compliment btw, intelligence is overrated 😅
Nayuta feels like analogy to a kid born from an abusive relationship
Another great one Vile! I’d love to see one for Jenny Schecter from “The L Word” and Nina Meyers from “24.” Two of the most devious and cunning characters in tv history and two of my favorites as well.
Loved this one!
Been reading CSM since it started and have been consistently surprised by this story
Cell from Dragonball Z
Doflamingo from One Piece
Sephiroth from Final Fantasy 7
Zeref from Fairy Tail
Dio from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure
The Major from Hellsing
cell isnt nearly as complex to get a video from The Vile Eye, you're buggin.
@Oceanman705 a good chunk of the villains covered on this channel aren't complex lol. If fucking Jack Horner could get talked about I don't see why Cell is off the table. Some people just wanna see cool characters get talked about!
Plus Cell has a ton of potential for a video. You obviously have to talk about him, but you can also tie in Dr. Gero and the Red Ribbon army since they're responsible for him and a lot of his early ideals came from him.
@@N_o196, genuinely try and name a single trait of Cell that can be talked about for a minute, there’s genuinely almost nothing to him beyond wanting to be perfect
@kevinnigins9488 simple, I'd format it like this: start off by talking about the Red Ribbon army, their loss to Goku, segway into Dr. Gero, his morals, how they influenced the Androids, the future timeline, and lead into Cell. From Cell, you can talk about his personality in 3 distinct phases, 1st, 2nd, and perfect, since all his forms have pretty different looks, actions taken, and personalities. From here, you talk about the world tournament, his actions taken, and then use that to talk about his overall superiority complex before tying that into his defeat from Gohan and how both characters are thematically intertwined, talk about Cell's death, maybe mention what he gets up to in the afterlife, recap, video done. Is it a lot? Not really, but there's enough to probably hit that 10 minute mark. Although, maybe a "Analyzing Evil: Dragon Ball's Cell Saga" would be more efficient. Dunno
Cell would be nice
Makima’s philosophy ultimately consumes itself as true perfection is nothing. She would keep erasing imperfect concepts until there was nothing left to erase. Total eradication of everything
1. Emperor Belos from The Owl House
2. Eric Cartman from South Park
3. Adam from Hazbin Hotel
4. Henry J. Waternoose from Monsters Inc.
5. Drago Bludvist from How to Train Your Dragon 2
6. Mother Gothel from Tangled
7. Metal Beak from Legend of the Guardians: The owls of Ga'Hoole
8. The High Evolutionary from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
9. Jimmy Crystal from Sing 2
10. Gaston from Beauty and the Beast
a video about DIO Brando or Funny Valentine from Jojo’s would be so cool! i’d love to see you analize their respective characters!!
ANALYSISING EVIL TIGHTEN FROM MEGAMIND
As for nayuta, she turns out much better than Makima because of Denji showering her with affection. She is still a control freak, but she is much less sinister and genuinely cares for Denji.
21:45 hahaha i sure hope this new control devil can live a happy and fulfilling life 💀
I like how I'm appalled by Makima's manipulation and actions, and then I see this panel [12:55] and get distracted by her expression, briefly forgetting everything I'd just heard. She really does have control in all aspects.
I’d love to see a breakdown on Kevin from We Need to Talk About Kevin
Analysing evil : Mr C from Twin Peaks
Hope to see these covered some day!
- Joe Cooper (Killer Joe)
- Nino Brown (New Jack City)
- Jake "The Muss" Heke (Once Were Warriors)
- Dr. X (from the Operation: Mindcrime albums by Queensrÿche)
Makima was such an intriguing villain for part 1, as she was a in the high tier of power as one of the horsemen, but there were devils that surpassed her strength, such pochita in his chainsaw man form, so she had to fight smarter and play her cards right to get what she wanted.
Her death was satisfying after everything she put Denji through, but it was clearly a pyrrhic victory considering how empty Denji’s life is in part 2 outside of Nayuta.
What do you mean, it's not clear how they manifest on earth?
They die in hell and then get born on earth. Then when they die on earth they get sent back to hell and the cycle repeats.
Thats what makes the darkness devil so scary. It's never died.
Man, I really love this channel. Always look forward to your videos, The Vile Eye!
Incredible video. Makima is one of the best-written villains I’ve encountered in manga, and you’ve broken down her character and motivations perfectly.
Analyzing Evil: Gideon Gordon Graves.
PLEASE do Makishima Shougo one day. For only 22 episodes (as well as 30 min of added scenes you can find on youtube that add a lot of insight) and out of which 40% was only a build up to him, he's a goldmine for analysis.
Could we get a video on Takasugi from Gintama in the future?
I’d consider him to be one of the most emotionally compelling, and fleshed out villains I’ve seen in any anime/TV show ever, which is really just a reflection of how well written the entire cast and character dynamics of Gintama are. Im not on the Patreon unfortunately and don’t really have the funds to be subscribing to anything else at the moment, but it would be cool to see this video in the future if anyone on the Patreon wants to suggest it👍
(this is also assuming this man has seen the anime already or is even willing to watch a 300+ ep show lol)
6th request for Mistborn Trilogy's Lord Ruler and Kelsier (Tyrannical Utilitarian vs. a charming rebellious sociopath). You make great videos!
Makima's face-blindness is basically the same as me exclusively referring to all people I don't know, who I get matched with on a game as "teammate," though, I do it because I find it funny to just call them all teammate. That being said, it did make me laugh when VE said (paraphrased), "she probably remembers them as x number instead of their name" because that's basically how I remember any teammate on a game, who isn't a personal friend lmao.
Then it made me think, "so literally everyone is teammate to Makima... That's kinda based."
Suggestions for villains I'd love to see featured:
*Frank (Once Upon a Time In the West)
*Deacon Frost (Blade)
*Albert Ganz & Billy Bear (48 Hours)
Since we're in the topic of anime and finished watching analyzing evil of the character Gendo Ikaki, i would love to see one on Dr Tenma from Astro Boy, any of the versions since they are so similar.
[READ!] Btw, It's a misconception that a Devils are born from fear and that they won't exist anymore when its name isn’t feared. To explain this, let's start all the ways from the top:
Devils are given names ("born") based on existing concepts [Many chapters explain this, but its first explained in chapter 6, page 6. Makima states in this chapter: "All Devils are born with a name. The more that name is feared, the more powerful the devil itself."
This tells us that:
When, for example, the concept Tomatoes exists, then the Tomato Devil will be born. If there're cars, then the car devil will exist.
Note that concepts can also be mental constructs or abstract ideas. That's why the zombie devil can exist or the ghost devil, even though ghosts and zombies aren't real things in real life.
(Off topic: Also, our perception of concepts has a bit of an influence on their appearance and power, but thats a discussion for another time.)
All fear does is determine how weak or strong a devil is. So the more a specific concept/name is feared, the stronger that Devil becomes. (fear doesn't give birth to them it just strengthens them, and the lack of fear/no fear at all doesnt kills them either. It instead weakens them a considerable amount).
So if a specific concept isn't feared *at all*, then the Devil that is associated with that concept will just be super weak, but as long as the concept tied to that devil exists, then they won't be erased.
So basically, what I'm trying to say is that concepts determine whether or not a devil exists-It's not fear that dictates this. As an example, if cars aren't feared at all, then the Car Devil can still exist since the concept cars still exist.
Anyways, the only way a devil can truly 'die' and escape the cycle of death and rebirth between hell/earth is by being eaten by Pochita since he erases the very concept that is associated with that devil. So if he eats the Car Devil, then the concept cars are erased from the past and present, which in turn erases/kills the Car Devil (since the concept of cars no longer exists). That is why Pochita is so highly valued by every devil, especially by the 4 horsemen and primal devils.
As a hardcore fan of chainsaw man you murdered this and furthered my understanding. Makima is an incredible villain
Pearl from X would be good or GLaDOS from Portal!
Great video as always! Some more suggestions from me…
-Dio Brando from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventures
-Kirei Kotomine from the Fate series
-Frieza from the Dragonball series
-Megatron from the Transformers series
Vile Eye, i think, should do analyses on Heroes called Analyzing Heroes, in my opinion. That would be really cool. Anyone agree?
maybe if he made a seperate channel
Optimus prime luke skywalker and superman should be the first 3
I love this idea!
Would be interesting to see a video on Ragyo Kiryuin from Kill La Kill. One of the most infamous Evil Moms in all of Anime.
We gotta do Sukuna next 😏
Nah, I'd win.
He's still holding back™
~Esdeath from Akame Ga Kill.
~Lucy from Elfen Lied.
~Askelad from Vinland Saga.
“A corpse is talking.” Has to be THE hardest line in all of fiction.
• Analyzing Evil: Mahito from Jujutsu Kaisen
Still mad that Yuji got robbed. God I hated Mahito so much. Such a hateable villain with a punchable face!
What I love about the devils in CSM is that they make us examine and reflect upon the concepts they represent and why/how they instill fear in us
I never considered the concept of control to be directly scary to me, but to see Makima's weilding of everything that she gets a hold of and to have the concept be contextualized in her characterization made me realize how terrifying control is
Losing your autonomy is scary in and off itself, but for it to be given to someone/something else that uses you as a tool is deeply terrifying and the fucked up thing about it is, I may be able to not encounter or ignore many things that may scare me, but I am controlled just as everyone else is by others and by concepts I may or may not grasp. I cannot escape this fact, it's an inherently terrifying part of existince that no one can challenge
OH MY GOD! Chainsaw Man is my second favorite anime/manga of all time! Thanks so much for this video😁😁😁! I don’t even have a proposal for a new video like I always comment I’m so excited.
as a fellow chainsaw bro, I'd like to recommend fire punch (same author), berserk and gantz. cheers !
@@BurghezulDjentilom Thats a great idea, thank you for the recommendation .👍
@@andrewemerson6077 my pleasure bro, those are some of my favorite stories, not just in manga but generally.
they get even crazier and more brutal at times, but you should be able to handle it !
@@BurghezulDjentilom
I would recommend tatsuki fujimoto other manga too, Goodbye Eri is his most well written manga. It's very different from a fire punch and chainsaw man but it provides the same melancholic feeling.
As a mostly anime only, who only read the volume of Chainsaw Man where he fights Makima, I knew she was evil, but I had no idea she was that evil.
Woah totally didn’t expect this video but LFGGGGGG!!
Analyzing Evil: Kokushibo Upper Rank One From (Demon Slayer)
- The Major From (Hellsing)
- Thrawn From (Star Wars)
- Geto Suguru From (Jujutsu kaisen)
[Read 2]: I might have misheard, but I just wanted to share that Pochita doesn't just erase the "fear" of the concept, but his ability also erases the concept related to the devil and not just the "memory." Let me explain:
A devil is directly correlated to its concept (they are born from concepts). So, when Chainsaw man erases a devil, then the concept itself will be erased, which would, in turn, erase the devil and everyone's memory of that specific concept.
So, when CSM erases concepts, it doesn't just erase everyone's memory of that concept, but it also rewrites reality itself, which alters the past, present, and future (Makimas words in Chapter 84). As an example, when CSM erased the "sixth sense all humans used to have," everyone didn't just forget that they had a sixth sense. It literally just rewrites reality to where humans never had this sixth sense in the first place. (Also, one thing. Focus on how Makima describes this: "sixth sense all humans used to have" This means that humans used to have sixth sense, but bcs Pochita ate the sixth sense Devil, he consequently made it so that no one has sixth sense. The concept of sixth sense was therefore erased, and not just the memories.) Or WW2 and Nazis as an example. It didn't just make everyone forget about the war/nazis, but it also led to the erasure of these two event, which led to consequences like Russia never being created and instead USSR still thriving as a nation (soviet are mentioned in bomb girl arc and in chapter 73, page 11).
The point is that it doesn't just erase people's memory:
- "Four possible conclusions other than death at the end of a living beings lifespan." Pochita ate 4 devils that were conclusions other than death at the end of a living beings lifespan and erased these concepts. So when a person is at the end of their lifespan, the only thing that will happen to them Is death and not the other four conclusions since they already got erased.
- "The light of a particular star that would break childrens minds." The existence of this concept (the sun that breaks children's minds) created a devil related to this specific sun. The more this sun was feared, the stronger that devil became. When Pochita ate this devil, it erased the concept related to that devil, which was that dangerous sun.
- Another example is when Makima wanted to create "the worst kind of peace" by using Pochitas' concept erasure to erase devils - Devils like the Death devil. This will naturally erase the concept of death, and when the concept Death is erased by Pochita, then it will lead to no one being able to die.
If your wondering what would happen if the concept of death is erased then I'll share my thoughts: As you can imagine, erasing Death would result in unimaginable consequences since changes in the past would naturally affect the present and future as well: this opens up questions like "what would happen to Aki if the concept Death were to be erased from the past and present? Would he be alive again?" Well, Aki would unfortunately cease to exist since there's a high likelihood that he might never be born by his parent when the past is changed so much. You could even go as far as to say that his whole ancestry tree would die out. And this doesn't just apply to Aki: trillion of humans would technically be erased from the 'old' reality, but then in this new rewritten reality where Death doesn't exist - every organism would be completely new and immortal.
What happens afterward is up to our imagination to determine, but logically speaking, evolution would take a completely different path or even outright stop (they'd be new creatures. Also, the animals we know today would most likely never exist, or they might be altered. Humans aren't excluded from this process, and I doubt they'd be called humans due to them no longer resembling 'humans'). Our current languages and cultures would most likely be lost. Earth would be overpopulated since everything now just reproduces whilst no one dies. Diseases would spread super rapidly, and everyone's body would eventually begin to rot (depends on how effective the regeneration is). It'd basically be like hell 2.0.
Whats interesting is that one of the many BIG mysterious about Pochitas concept-erasure ability now, is discussed in chapter 87: Makima states that when Pochita ate the 'Hybrid' devil, only the memories of this concept was erased, but the concept itself miraculously wasn't erased. She then says this important quote right after: "THEY ARE THE SOLE EXCEPTION" - Makima. She continues on to say that the concept of 'Hybrids was the ONLY concept to not be erased by Pochita, while only the memories of this concept were erased. So, basically, everyones memories of 'hybrids' were erased, but Pochitas ability didn't rewrite reality completely to where 'Hybrids' never existed. That's why hybrids, like the Katana hybrid and Bomb hybrid, can still be made and exist, unlike something like the "sixth sense of humanity" since they are now already erased and not just forgotten.
Since the hybrids were the sole exception, then, if Death devil was eaten, it won't be as lucky, bcs everyones memories about death will be erased and reality will be altered to where everyone never died.
Pochita erasing concepts has unimaginable consequences. But luckily, Pochita is extremely careful and doesn't thoughtlessly erase concepts. He, for example, shows this in the Makima vs Pochita battle, where he doesn't erase an important concept such as control and instead kills her 26 times instead. Makima, being a fan of him and who wishes to be erased, naturally gets mad at this.
But yeah, I hope that you understand now that Pochita erases the concepts of the devils he eats, which in turn retcons everyone's memories of this concept.
Btw, I just wanted to add that the only beings that can 'remember' what concepts Pochita erased are: Pochita himself, The 4 horseman, and most likely the Primal Devils. These limited devils basically remember the old reality that was rewritten into the new reality that they are in, which is pretty insane if you think too deeply about it.
The world of blood Meridian
He's already done that. By talking about the Judge, he necessarily had to cover all of the characters with whom he interacts, most of whom aren't exactly good people, but they're not nearly as evil as the Judge.
Gemma Morrow from Sons Of Anarchy
Mickey & Mallory Knox from Natural Born Killers
Dolores Umbridge from the Harry Potter series
Mr. Roat from Wait Until Dark
Oswald Cobblepot from Gotham
Harvey Two-Face from The Dark Knight
Analysing evil : doma from fire punch
interesting how "Vile" is ananagram of L I V E
Doma redeemed himself before Agni could even get his revenge.
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot but what he did was still evil whether he redeemed himself or not
@@BurghezulDjentilom 😨
- Dio from Jojo
- Chrollo and/or Meruem from Hunter x Hunter
- Frieza from Dragon Ball
- Doflamingo from One Piece
-Askeladd from Vinland Saga or Vinland Saga in general
- Aizen from Bleach
- The Akatsuki and/or Madara from Naruto
- Friend from 20th Century Boys
The only criticism I have here, is that Makima never knew about the specific of the contract. She ASSUMED Denji needs to have a normal life. Making Denji be so broken he can't dream anymore also makes him not have a normal life anymore. She almost succeeded with the wrong formula.
She mast have succeeded but author just don’t allowed constant writing
@@Kongongongg What are you yapping about
@@janreiafrica I’m yapping about author who killed her via making her dumb and powerless
@@Kongongongg Oh, sorry. I forgot the average CSM fan doesn't have reading comprehension so let me break it down for you mkay?
In Chapter 2, Makima mentions to Denji that her nose is pretty good that she can smell Pochita inside of Denji. She never actually remembered Denji, other than the smell of Pochita.
In Chapter 84, Makima mentions that she is contracted with the Prime Minister that any "attack" directed at her will be redirected to a random Japanese citizen as an illness or accident. Denji learns about this in the final fight.
During the fight with the Weapons and Makima in Chapter 87 and 88, Pochita threw his heart when he was launched into space and regenerated from there. Denji has a vague memory of the fight, even though Pochita did the fighting.
In Chapter 91, Denji made a contract with Power to have her blood.
In Chapter 96, Denji made use of all the things above.
- Gambled that Makima only "smelled" Pochita and never cared about Denji.
- Used the Pochita heart technique to have Pochita fight Makima while Denji is hiding from her.
- Used Power's blood to make the "Power Chainsaw" to attack Makima.
- Power's blood makes her unable to regenerate as she is still attacking inside of her. This also made it possible to chop her up into pieces.
- Eating her doesn't count as an "attack" as Denji sees it as a form of "love".
Now tell me. Where can I insert the "author killed her via making her dumb and powerless"?
@@janreiafrica hello, amazingly you made every single argument that will work against Denji here. Let’s start, shall we?
1. Smell. You are correct. Makima doesn’t even know scent of Denji and only see Pochita all the time.
And she doesn’t even need to care about Denji to stop him.
Remember fight at graveyard? Makima believed that she was fighting Denji right?
But this was actually Pochita. Denji was hiding.
So tell me why didn’t Makima spot the difference between smell of small, heart shaped Pochita and big, human like Pochita?
If I remember correctly Makima was a big fan of CSM. So, why didn’t she notice Pochita’s BIG smell exactly?
No Denji or his scent needed. Only difference between smell of small and big Pochita.
2. Excellent point about Pochita throwing his own heart to Earth. Do you know who else not only saw this trick but also COMMENTED about this? Oh right. Makima. She was aware of such ability.
3. Another great point about Power blood! Only problem. Power did fought Makima and even used same blood against her…guess what? Didn’t do anything against regeneration of Makima.
And tell why didn’t Makima just teleported via rats to half-destroyed Power and Pochita? Why didn’t Makima just repeat Reze scene?
I know you how more arguments but let’s just stop here and after your answers return to these
Excellently written video. Another well done one and a great watch
Here are some Anime/Manga villains I think you could do
The Seven Deadly Sins and Father from Fullmetal Alchemist
Dio from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure
Aizen from Bleach
Vicious from Cowboy Bebop
The Killer from Erased
The World of Roanapur from Black Lagoon
And
Lucy from Elfen Lied
ill add some to my fav anime series antagonst
Meruem From HXH
Takasugi From Gintama
Utsuro Gintama
Fisk From DD Tv Show Maybe Dex also
Naruto Villains Itachi Pain Madara
Kotomine Kirie From Fate
I might add more here who knows
Shogo Makishima
How did I miss this episode 3 months ago? Makima is literally my favorite fictional character, I would have happily jumped at the chance to see this one asap
I can fix her. Nah, she'd have me fixed. Either way, I'm good
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This was great. I would really like to suggest doing an analyzing evil on the main character from black sails.
Do a video of jimmy darmody from the tv series boardwalk empire.
You might not see this, but I’m glad you covered her since I’ve started reading the manga and she definitely has potential to be one of my top favorite villains. The others you already covered, such as Lalo, Hans, Anton, Calvin.
I hope you can soon do a video on Frieza from Dragon Ball Z in honor of Akira Toriyama
Bro your wish has been granted
AW HELL YEAH ANALYZING EVIL FOR MAKIMA!!! you should do one for Barem Bridge from Chainsaw Man as well.
Glory and honor to Makima Our Goddess, eternally!!!!
Extremely based
Extremely based
A video on Yuno Gasai from Mirai Nikki/Future Diary sometime in the future would be cool
Could you cover ‘Shōgo Makishima’ from the lesser known dystopian cyberpunk anime “Psycho-Pass” ? He is a very interesting character as well as a menacing villain with complex themes and philosophy that few have given attention to
The first season of that show was peak sci fi.
Joe Goldberg (YOU)
Namor (MCU)
Amanda Waller (DC)
Cersei (Game of Thrones)
Adam Smasher (Cyber Punk)
Gaunter O Dimm (The Witcher)
The Enclave (Fallout)
Askeladd and Canute from Vinland saga
Cersei Lannister from A song of ice and fire
I would love to see most of the characters in the Michael Mann film Heat. Thank you again for your channel
Yeah, what she's done to buckets of my wasted seed was fucking evil.
weirdo
Wtf
Ayo?
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Devils can come to earth once they're killed in Hell by another Devil, they go over that with the Darkness Devil itself, talking about how he's stuck in Hell because no one was able to kill it yet (as a way to reinforce how strong it was and how it was the first kind of fear humanity experienced).